[00:00.000 --> 00:10.040]  The UK Sun reports Taliban fighters in Afghanistan are burying dirty needles with their roadside
[00:10.040 --> 00:14.480]  bombs in a bid to infect NATO troops with HIV.
[00:14.480 --> 00:19.280]  Hypodermic syringes are hidden below the surface, pointing upwards to prick bomb squad experts
[00:19.280 --> 00:20.960]  as they hunt for devices.
[00:20.960 --> 00:26.040]  The needles are feared to be contaminated with hepatitis and HIV, and if the bomb goes off,
[00:26.040 --> 00:28.760]  the needles become deadly shrapnel.
[00:28.760 --> 00:33.640]  European Jews for a Just Peace, an umbrella organisation of Jewish groups from 10 European
[00:33.640 --> 00:38.560]  countries against the occupation of Palestine, is preparing to launch another boat to break
[00:38.560 --> 00:39.560]  the Gaza blockade.
[00:39.560 --> 00:44.240]  The voyage was originally meant to carry only a small number of activists, but organisers
[00:44.240 --> 00:49.760]  say a huge response from the Jewish community following the deadly attack on the Mavi Marmara
[00:49.760 --> 00:53.720]  meant a second boat has now been arranged.
[00:53.720 --> 00:59.880]  The email addresses of more than 100,000 US iPad users, including celebrities and politicians,
[00:59.880 --> 01:03.040]  have been exposed in a targeted hacking attack.
[01:03.040 --> 01:08.560]  The massive security breach leaves all of those affected open to spam and malicious hacking.
[01:08.560 --> 01:14.520]  The vulnerability affected only iPad users who signed up for AT&T's 3G wireless internet
[01:14.520 --> 01:15.520]  service.
[01:15.520 --> 01:21.720]  BP has embarked on an aggressive campaign to repair its public image in the wake of
[01:21.720 --> 01:23.540]  its disastrous oil spill.
[01:23.540 --> 01:28.360]  The company has repeatedly run full-page ads in major newspapers, retained high-powered
[01:28.360 --> 01:34.400]  lobbying and PR firms, and launched a series of television ads with CEO Tony Haywood looking
[01:34.400 --> 01:35.400]  apologetic.
[01:35.400 --> 01:41.120]  The former European Commission President Romano Prodi, a key member of an international advisory
[01:41.120 --> 01:46.840]  board, is understood to be helping BP restore its battered reputation in the US.
[01:46.840 --> 01:51.920]  Also assisting BP is Josh Bolton, former Chief of Staff to George Bush.
[01:51.920 --> 01:56.920]  Both Prodi and Bolton are former employees of Goldman Sachs, the investment bank that
[01:56.920 --> 01:58.600]  advises BP.
[01:58.600 --> 02:03.040]  The group has been helping the oil giant to defend its interests against a fierce onslaught
[02:03.040 --> 02:09.080]  from the US government, which intensified Wednesday when 44 US Senators signed a letter
[02:09.080 --> 02:13.320]  demanding BP not pay a dividend next month.
[02:13.320 --> 02:17.920]  While US officials touted the UN Security Council's approval Wednesday of new sanctions
[02:17.920 --> 02:23.520]  against Iran as a major diplomatic breakthrough, most nuclear and Iran specialists say it's
[02:23.520 --> 02:25.180]  unlikely to be effective.
[02:25.180 --> 02:30.080]  A senior fellow at the Brookings Institution said, quote, the Iranian leadership has demonstrated
[02:30.080 --> 02:33.080]  that under pressure, they are most averse to compromise.
[02:33.080 --> 02:37.980]  The new resolution forbids UN members from transferring most conventional arms sales
[02:37.980 --> 02:43.720]  to Iran, calls for greater scrutiny of Iran's overseas banking, adds more Iranian companies
[02:43.720 --> 02:50.040]  than individuals to a UN blacklist, and authorizes countries to inspect Iran-bound ships suspected
[02:50.040 --> 02:53.360]  of carrying cargo connected to Tehran's nuclear program.
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[04:06.800 --> 04:24.120]  Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do when we come for you?
[04:24.120 --> 04:33.040]  This is the Rule of Law, I'm Deborah Stevens, here with Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton is out
[04:33.040 --> 04:35.200]  of pocket right now.
[04:35.200 --> 04:41.640]  He just informed me that he's stuck in traffic in the middle of a huge storm where he's at
[04:41.640 --> 04:46.240]  in Colorado, so he may or may not be joining us later.
[04:46.240 --> 04:51.440]  But we do have, as promised, Mr. Michael Badneric with us tonight.
[04:51.440 --> 04:53.440]  Michael, thank you so much for joining us tonight.
[04:53.440 --> 04:54.840]  Hey, my pleasure.
[04:54.840 --> 05:02.280]  I'm always happy to be on Rule of Law and talk to people and light the fires of liberty.
[05:02.280 --> 05:03.280]  This is excellent.
[05:03.280 --> 05:08.800]  All right, Michael, you are going to be in town this weekend, and it sounds like it's
[05:08.800 --> 05:12.880]  going to be a very busy weekend for you indeed.
[05:12.880 --> 05:18.640]  You are the keynote speaker Saturday night at the Texas Libertarian Party Convention
[05:18.640 --> 05:23.480]  here in Austin, and you're also teaching your Constitution class on Saturday during the
[05:23.480 --> 05:24.480]  day.
[05:24.480 --> 05:27.680]  So why don't you give us some details about these events?
[05:27.680 --> 05:35.400]  Well, the class, the Constitution class is on Sunday, June 13th, that would kind of,
[05:35.400 --> 05:39.360]  I mean, I'm really good, but I still haven't figured out how to be in two places at once
[05:39.360 --> 05:41.240]  at the same time.
[05:41.240 --> 05:48.280]  Saturday, well, Friday, Saturday, Sunday is the Texas Libertarian Party Convention, and
[05:48.280 --> 05:52.920]  we have five candidates for governor.
[05:52.920 --> 06:00.360]  If you really liked Deborah Medina and were disappointed that she didn't win her Republican
[06:00.360 --> 06:08.040]  nomination, you have another chance to put someone in the gubernatorial seat who knows
[06:08.040 --> 06:11.320]  the Constitution and believes in your liberties.
[06:11.320 --> 06:15.840]  You can attend the Libertarian Convention.
[06:15.840 --> 06:23.560]  Friday night, we're going to have a debate between our five gubernatorial candidates.
[06:23.560 --> 06:27.760]  Saturday we will vote and pick one of those candidates.
[06:27.760 --> 06:36.760]  Saturday night at dinner, starting at 7 p.m., I believe, is my keynote speech, and I will
[06:36.760 --> 06:43.680]  be rallying the troops, trying to look into my crystal ball to decide what's going to
[06:43.680 --> 06:50.040]  happen and when as we go into the future, and then on Sunday, I will be teaching my
[06:50.040 --> 06:54.360]  infamous Constitution class at a different hotel.
[06:54.360 --> 07:04.400]  The convention is at the Holiday Inn Midtown, and that's on Middle Fiskville Road.
[07:04.400 --> 07:09.440]  Basically, it's behind the Greyhound bus station in that general area.
[07:09.440 --> 07:15.040]  My Constitution class, on the other hand, is at the south side of town at the Wyndham
[07:15.040 --> 07:17.120]  Garden Hotel.
[07:17.120 --> 07:25.880]  That will be from 9 a.m. until 6 p.m., and it's on I-35, just north of Ben White.
[07:25.880 --> 07:37.240]  If you would like to attend the class, you need to go to my website, which is constitutionpreservation.org,
[07:37.240 --> 07:42.840]  and go to the calendar for June 13th, or go to the class registration page.
[07:42.840 --> 07:51.080]  Either way, you'll be able to click the PayPal button and register for class.
[07:51.080 --> 07:53.720]  Fantastic.
[07:53.720 --> 07:59.520]  That's great news, and I'm going to be at the convention on Saturday night to see Michael's
[07:59.520 --> 08:00.520]  speech.
[08:00.520 --> 08:05.880]  Actually, I'm going to record it, so I would like to be able to rebroadcast that at some
[08:05.880 --> 08:07.960]  point later in time.
[08:07.960 --> 08:15.000]  Actually, I had multiple requests to actually broadcast your speech live on rule of law,
[08:15.000 --> 08:19.880]  and I would have done it except for, man, I always have to work so hard at these events
[08:19.880 --> 08:25.040]  and bring equipment and set up and just really work hard and do all these things.
[08:25.040 --> 08:31.680]  I was like, for once, I just want to go and have a good time and eat dinner and talk to
[08:31.680 --> 08:36.760]  people for a change, but I will be bringing my little hard drive recorder.
[08:36.760 --> 08:39.120]  Actually, it's Richard Reza, borrowing it from him.
[08:39.120 --> 08:43.880]  I'm going to record it so that I can actually just go as a guest this time, so I'm very
[08:43.880 --> 08:46.640]  much looking forward to that.
[08:46.640 --> 08:53.920]  Will you give us a little preview on what people might hear from you this weekend?
[08:53.920 --> 08:58.400]  Well, I call Pat Dixon.
[08:58.400 --> 09:08.400]  Pat Dixon is the chair of the Texas Libertarian Party, and I assured him that my speech in
[09:08.400 --> 09:20.280]  Texas will not be similar to the speech I gave in St. Louis at the LP National Convention.
[09:20.280 --> 09:22.920]  I've run some ideas through.
[09:22.920 --> 09:38.240]  Today, I start with a quote from Winston Churchill, who has a lot of really good stuff, and the
[09:38.240 --> 09:44.520]  quote says, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed,
[09:44.520 --> 09:50.400]  if you will not fight for the right when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you
[09:50.400 --> 09:55.600]  may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and
[09:55.600 --> 09:58.840]  only a precarious chance of survival.
[09:58.840 --> 10:01.340]  There may even be a worst case.
[10:01.340 --> 10:07.520]  You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish
[10:07.520 --> 10:11.840]  than to live as slaves.
[10:11.840 --> 10:19.440]  From that point, I'm going to analyze the economic problems that we're having, some
[10:19.440 --> 10:25.240]  of the political problems that people are recognizing, and what some of the things are
[10:25.240 --> 10:27.920]  that we can actually do about it.
[10:27.920 --> 10:34.080]  Everybody needs to protect their families first by stocking up on food and converting
[10:34.080 --> 10:44.200]  a lot of your assets to silver and gold, and just going through and giving recollections
[10:44.200 --> 10:51.200]  from history that, I mean, we've already done this kind of stuff.
[10:51.200 --> 10:57.600]  Part of my speech has a quote from George Santayana, those who cannot learn from history
[10:57.600 --> 11:03.720]  are doomed to repeat it, followed by a quote from George Bernard Shaw, and it says, we
[11:03.720 --> 11:09.320]  learn from history that we learn nothing from history.
[11:09.320 --> 11:17.080]  We do the same problems over and over again, because each generation fails to look back
[11:17.080 --> 11:23.640]  into the past to see what's going on, and these problems come up, and it's not the first
[11:23.640 --> 11:24.880]  time.
[11:24.880 --> 11:34.600]  This will not be the first Great Depression that we have in the United States.
[11:34.600 --> 11:42.600]  The speech is overall a pep speech, to get people prepared for what's coming, and to
[11:42.600 --> 11:47.600]  let them know that although things are going to be a little bit difficult, we are going
[11:47.600 --> 11:49.600]  to restore liberty in this country.
[11:49.600 --> 11:55.160]  I thought you were going to say, we are going to be difficult.
[11:55.160 --> 12:03.040]  Well, that's my job, that's my job is to be difficult, every day I wake up and open
[12:03.040 --> 12:06.680]  my eyes is another bad day for the government.
[12:06.680 --> 12:14.160]  Indeed, indeed it is, indeed it is, and Michael, I have some questions and callers, we like
[12:14.160 --> 12:23.520]  to open up the phone lines for questions for Michael Badnerich, 512-646-1984, and I wanted
[12:23.520 --> 12:29.040]  to start off with a couple of questions, some constitutional questions.
[12:29.040 --> 12:38.040]  There has been a lot of talk lately in the Patriot Talk Radio world concerning these
[12:38.040 --> 12:44.920]  treaties or possible treaties on the horizon, treaties that the government is considering
[12:44.920 --> 12:51.360]  or Obama is considering having the Senate, pressuring the Senate to ratify, concerning
[12:51.360 --> 12:58.520]  taking away our firearms and this law of the sea treaty and such, and I have a question
[12:58.520 --> 13:06.120]  concerning the treaties, it's my understanding that treaties do not trump the Constitution,
[13:06.120 --> 13:14.280]  however this seems to be a point of debate now, whether or not treaties supersede the
[13:14.280 --> 13:20.000]  U.S. Constitution, and I would like you to address this issue please.
[13:20.000 --> 13:23.280]  Absolutely not, it doesn't supersede.
[13:23.280 --> 13:33.680]  Only treaties pursuant to the Constitution are part of the Supreme Law of the land, pursuant
[13:33.680 --> 13:41.120]  to the Constitution means basically in the same spirit of the purpose of the Constitution
[13:41.120 --> 13:47.400]  is to protect our lives, our liberty, and our private property, that's the basic fundamental
[13:47.400 --> 13:51.640]  reason for writing the Constitution in the first place.
[13:51.640 --> 14:00.280]  So if a treaty is along the lines of protecting life, liberty, and property, then it would
[14:00.280 --> 14:08.800]  be a valid treaty, however any treaty not pursuant to the Constitution, any treaty that
[14:08.800 --> 14:17.400]  pretends to supersede the Constitution is by definition not pursuant to the Constitution
[14:17.400 --> 14:19.520]  and it's invalid.
[14:19.520 --> 14:24.160]  Everybody is so concerned about authority.
[14:24.160 --> 14:29.280]  When we're five or six years old, we have to listen to mom and dad.
[14:29.280 --> 14:33.900]  Mom tells us to go to bed at eight o'clock, that's it, there's no debating the issue.
[14:33.900 --> 14:36.440]  You go to school, you have to listen to the teachers.
[14:36.440 --> 14:39.960]  You get your learner's permit, you got to listen to the police officers.
[14:39.960 --> 14:45.960]  You get a job after college, you got to listen to your manager, you got to beg for time off.
[14:45.960 --> 14:51.320]  And so all of our lives, we are turning to someone of a higher authority and getting
[14:51.320 --> 14:57.780]  permission for this, permission for that, and then as we get into the patriot community,
[14:57.780 --> 15:04.120]  we stop looking to a person and we start looking to pieces of paper.
[15:04.120 --> 15:06.000]  What does the Constitution say?
[15:06.000 --> 15:07.840]  What does the Bill of Rights say?
[15:07.840 --> 15:09.880]  What does the United States Code say?
[15:09.880 --> 15:14.240]  Oh, don't worry about that because the 14th Amendment supersedes that.
[15:14.240 --> 15:21.040]  The Treaty of this and the Treaty of that, it's like stop looking to a piece of paper.
[15:21.040 --> 15:30.740]  If the Congress decides to sign a treaty with China, for example, selling all Americans
[15:30.740 --> 15:35.400]  into slavery, that treaty is not valid.
[15:35.400 --> 15:37.560]  It's not pursuant to the Constitution.
[15:37.560 --> 15:43.760]  It sure as hell doesn't apply to me because I'm not being a slave for anybody.
[15:43.760 --> 15:51.320]  And just because someone signs a piece of paper does not make it true.
[15:51.320 --> 15:55.880]  If Congress signs a piece of paper saying that I am a seven foot tall purple rabbit,
[15:55.880 --> 16:01.600]  well, they've got it all signed, it's in a plaque and it looks very fancy and official,
[16:01.600 --> 16:04.760]  but I'm still not a seven foot tall purple rabbit.
[16:04.760 --> 16:07.420]  They can say whatever the hell they want.
[16:07.420 --> 16:10.880]  They can say that we've been sold into slavery to China.
[16:10.880 --> 16:17.200]  They can say that all of these treaties are valid, the United Nations Treaty, and we
[16:17.200 --> 16:19.200]  have to turn in all of our guns.
[16:19.200 --> 16:25.200]  Well, and the horse you rode in, nobody has taken my guns.
[16:25.200 --> 16:31.840]  Nobody is going to control my freedom of speech and I will defend the Alamo again tomorrow
[16:31.840 --> 16:32.840]  if necessary.
[16:32.840 --> 16:39.000]  Come on people, wake up, pull your head out of the sand and stop worrying about a piece
[16:39.000 --> 16:40.000]  of paper.
[16:40.000 --> 16:45.360]  Stand up for what you know is true, what you know is right.
[16:45.360 --> 16:49.640]  Stand up for the Constitution and make more of these invalid treaties.
[16:49.640 --> 16:50.640]  Absolutely.
[16:50.640 --> 16:56.840]  That's what I thought too, just wanted to get your take on it as I knew you would do
[16:56.840 --> 16:57.840]  best.
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[18:18.680 --> 18:21.680]  We're here with Mr. Michael Badnerich.
[18:21.680 --> 18:28.560]  Callers if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
[18:28.560 --> 18:36.480]  And we were discussing on the break that our rights do not come from a piece of paper.
[18:36.480 --> 18:41.360]  Absolutely, your rights are inherent.
[18:41.360 --> 18:43.360]  They're a part of who you are.
[18:43.360 --> 18:46.920]  You can't give them away, nobody can take them away.
[18:46.920 --> 18:51.280]  It's up to you to decide whether you're going to exercise them or not.
[18:51.280 --> 18:59.800]  Absolutely, so if they try to pull something by executing one of these treaties saying
[18:59.800 --> 19:06.200]  well we signed a treaty with the UN or with some other nation to disarm the people and
[19:06.200 --> 19:11.720]  they try to come and say that the treaty supersedes the Constitution, the answer is absolutely
[19:11.720 --> 19:12.720]  not.
[19:12.720 --> 19:20.200]  That is not the case and we have to stand up for our rights.
[19:20.200 --> 19:23.000]  And hopefully it won't be ugly.
[19:23.000 --> 19:29.560]  Well hopefully and when you say I hope it doesn't get ugly, I think we all know what
[19:29.560 --> 19:37.480]  ugly means and the thing that will determine whether it's ugly or not is how many people
[19:37.480 --> 19:39.440]  jump on board.
[19:39.440 --> 19:43.960]  If everybody in the United States stands up and says okay enough is enough, we're not
[19:43.960 --> 19:50.920]  going to put up with this stupid socialism anymore, then you know all of a sudden things
[19:50.920 --> 19:57.440]  are going to change because we outnumber them by several orders of magnitude.
[19:57.440 --> 20:02.880]  However if everybody sits on the couch because they're afraid to get involved and the government
[20:02.880 --> 20:11.200]  has guns and I don't want to be rocking the boat, well then it's going to be a small minority
[20:11.200 --> 20:17.360]  of us standing up for rights and it's going to get ugly, it's going to get ugly.
[20:17.360 --> 20:20.640]  I know that we're going to restore liberty eventually.
[20:20.640 --> 20:25.040]  What I don't know is if I'm going to live long enough to enjoy it.
[20:25.040 --> 20:28.680]  Well Michael you've made it this far and you seem to have defied death once already at
[20:28.680 --> 20:35.960]  least one time so I think that you'll be around for a while to do that.
[20:35.960 --> 20:38.240]  I'm certainly planning to be here.
[20:38.240 --> 20:42.120]  I'm not going quietly that's for sure.
[20:42.120 --> 20:47.600]  Now Michael since we're on the topic of treaties I wanted to ask you about another treaty,
[20:47.600 --> 20:55.800]  this law of the sea treaty because concerning the constitution being the supreme law of
[20:55.800 --> 21:02.480]  the land and now we've got a treaty on the horizon that has to do with sea, with maritime
[21:02.480 --> 21:08.800]  conditions and from what I understand this treaty is about is that there would be no
[21:08.800 --> 21:15.480]  more so-called international waters like the open sea as far as a lawful sense that it
[21:15.480 --> 21:22.600]  would be controlled under the jurisdiction of the United Nations and concerning the borders
[21:22.600 --> 21:31.280]  of our nation that borders the ocean it would dramatically reduce the number of miles as
[21:31.280 --> 21:38.760]  far as how far out into the ocean would be considered territory of the United States
[21:38.760 --> 21:45.480]  of this country and I think it's something totally ridiculous like three miles or something
[21:45.480 --> 21:51.440]  and so I don't remember exactly what it is but I wanted to ask you concerning this treaty
[21:51.440 --> 21:56.880]  since it has to do with the water and the constitution being the supreme law of the
[21:56.880 --> 22:03.560]  land is there anything in the constitution that would make this law of the sea treaty
[22:03.560 --> 22:10.360]  unconstitutional should they choose to sign it because it would diminish our ability to
[22:10.360 --> 22:15.800]  defend our borders or something like that is there something in the constitution regarding
[22:15.800 --> 22:21.840]  international waters and how you know the buffer zone around our nation and the waters
[22:21.840 --> 22:24.200]  what is your take on that?
[22:24.200 --> 22:30.760]  Well the only thing that specifically mentions anything about this is article three when
[22:30.760 --> 22:38.080]  it says that the supreme court shall have jurisdiction in common law, equity law and
[22:38.080 --> 22:40.480]  admiralty law.
[22:40.480 --> 22:49.920]  Admiralty law is law of the sea and common law the constitution is about property you
[22:49.920 --> 22:56.200]  know land property if you back out of your driveway and run over my mailbox I expect
[22:56.200 --> 23:02.280]  you to build me a new mailbox make me whole again put my property back to the way it was
[23:02.280 --> 23:05.440]  before you ran over it.
[23:05.440 --> 23:11.540]  We don't own the ocean you can't put up four buoys in the ocean and claim your little chunk
[23:11.540 --> 23:21.720]  of ocean and because it's so fluid so common law the law of property would not apply and
[23:21.720 --> 23:28.220]  especially when the constitution was written the only people who went out into the ocean
[23:28.220 --> 23:36.320]  were people who were engaged in commerce nobody went out into the ocean just to play they
[23:36.320 --> 23:42.000]  didn't have recreational sailboats at the time so the only reason for going across the
[23:42.000 --> 23:51.320]  ocean was to bring back riches from the orient or the West India Tea Company and it was all
[23:51.320 --> 23:58.360]  commerce and so based on the fact it was all commerce and it was all literally wet there
[23:58.360 --> 24:07.720]  was a requirement for a different type of law admiralty law is the law of the sea you
[24:07.720 --> 24:13.800]  know if you find another boat floating around the middle of the ocean you own it you know
[24:13.800 --> 24:22.120]  it's salvage rights and that's where possession is nine tenths of the law comes in you go
[24:22.120 --> 24:26.480]  out and find a boat floating around the middle of the ocean apparently it was abandoned and
[24:26.480 --> 24:31.400]  nobody wants it and now it's yours but if you find a boat floating around in the middle
[24:31.400 --> 24:40.820]  of the ocean and it says HMS Bad Narik across the back well I mean there is some indication
[24:40.820 --> 24:47.280]  that some guy named Bad Narik might have wanted that boat at one time but again that was still
[24:47.280 --> 24:56.440]  only ten percent you know of the law possession was nine tenths of the law so it's a different
[24:56.440 --> 25:01.640]  body of law it makes perfectly good sense once you study it and understand it that's
[25:01.640 --> 25:06.640]  why you know the captains got to go down with the ship captains you know word is law on
[25:06.640 --> 25:16.780]  a boat but each country basically has to interact with all the other nations and we can pretty
[25:16.780 --> 25:23.080]  much declare as much water out as we want as long as we're not getting ridiculous as
[25:23.080 --> 25:31.240]  long as we don't try to claim the entire ocean that's something that Russia attempted to
[25:31.240 --> 25:39.320]  do Russia sent a submarine down to the North Pole and basically put a flag at the bottom
[25:39.320 --> 25:46.720]  of the ocean at the North Pole claiming that North Pole and the territory at the bottom
[25:46.720 --> 25:52.560]  of the ocean as Russian territory well I don't think any of the other countries in the world
[25:52.560 --> 26:00.960]  were acknowledging that I don't know if that was just an international joke or not.
[26:00.960 --> 26:09.000]  Yeah my goodness they claim the North Pole well I guess my main concern with the law
[26:09.000 --> 26:16.720]  the sea treaty was that the amount of water that we claim to be our territory would be
[26:16.720 --> 26:24.440]  dramatically reduced to some ridiculous number like I said like two or three miles and I
[26:24.440 --> 26:30.200]  was you know mainly trying to find if there was something about that that would be unconstitutional
[26:30.200 --> 26:36.680]  because it would inhibit or somehow impede our nation to be able to defend its borders
[26:36.680 --> 26:42.040]  but it sounds like there's not much that we really could do about that law the sea treaty
[26:42.040 --> 26:44.360]  as far as time is concerned.
[26:44.360 --> 26:52.260]  We can acknowledge it or not I mean if I make the announcement that okay I'm taking over
[26:52.260 --> 27:00.000]  this radio program I'm the main host you know I'm in charge well hell I can say it but you're
[27:00.000 --> 27:07.020]  in control of the control panel I mean the only way that makes any sense is if the rest
[27:07.020 --> 27:13.880]  of you decide well okay we're going to let Michael be in charge so you know Russia can
[27:13.880 --> 27:22.280]  claim you know the North the land underneath the North Pole if they want but you know we're
[27:22.280 --> 27:28.480]  not going to necessarily recognize that the United States has a right to you know protect
[27:28.480 --> 27:35.480]  its borders and I think that we've had out to 20 miles I think that was which in the
[27:35.480 --> 27:45.720]  big scheme of things is still almost no territory at all I mean the ocean what is it like the
[27:45.720 --> 27:51.040]  actual unofficial international limit is a hundred miles off your coast is it is a hundred
[27:51.040 --> 28:01.360]  miles it all we can monitor that but you know you go two or three miles off the coast and
[28:01.360 --> 28:06.800]  you know you're barely able to see land I think the horizon is at eight you go eight
[28:06.800 --> 28:17.880]  or nine miles off the coast and you don't see you know the land anymore so it's basically
[28:17.880 --> 28:23.400]  whatever the United States wants to defend the United States is going to claim whatever
[28:23.400 --> 28:28.880]  it wants the United States is going to have to defend the claim I think that we could
[28:28.880 --> 28:36.160]  easily defend 20 miles I don't think we're going to get much of a challenge with a hundred
[28:36.160 --> 28:42.800]  miles but you know if the United States declares 250 miles off the coast I don't think that
[28:42.800 --> 28:48.000]  we're going to be capable of defending it I don't think that other countries are going
[28:48.000 --> 28:58.800]  to pay that much attention to us indeed indeed so I mean it's people need to understand that
[28:58.800 --> 29:05.200]  you can't just make statements you know other countries have a right to exist we need to
[29:05.200 --> 29:12.640]  treat other people the way we want to be treated so you know if we are declaring 250 miles
[29:12.640 --> 29:18.560]  then other countries are going to declare 250 miles and anywhere where that you know
[29:18.560 --> 29:28.280]  those boundaries overlap I mean you're inviting you know some sort of conflict so you know
[29:28.280 --> 29:36.240]  I think that we ought to be a little bit more rational recognize that nobody really owns
[29:36.240 --> 29:42.920]  the ocean and instead of worrying about defending a hundred miles off the coast we need to have
[29:42.920 --> 29:47.640]  a foreign policy that doesn't want other you know it's not going to make other countries
[29:47.640 --> 29:55.800]  want to blow us up yeah really that's for sure it would be nice okay we will be right
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[32:21.600 --> 32:29.760]  512-646-1984 for Michael Baineric we've got Thorn in Texas Thorn thanks for calling in
[32:29.760 --> 32:37.320]  what is your question for Michael actually I've got two Michael are you aware of the
[32:37.320 --> 32:42.480]  government's interest in the oil wells that are offshore specifically the BP oil well
[32:42.480 --> 32:54.440]  it's burning right now or the tank well it was on fire now it's sunk and now it's polluting
[32:54.440 --> 33:00.720]  the Gulf but the government was getting about 40% of the growths that oil well based on
[33:00.720 --> 33:08.280]  the fact that we have a 100 mile limit right now so if we give up our rights to the government
[33:08.280 --> 33:15.760]  gives up its rights to the ownership of offshore or you know the seas no longer can you have
[33:15.760 --> 33:20.200]  a claim on the wells that are out there and there's a lot of wells at about 50 and 60
[33:20.200 --> 33:26.400]  miles in the Gulf that's question one question two is about the second amendment case that's
[33:26.400 --> 33:32.960]  going on do you have any thoughts on the second amendment case what's the second amendment
[33:32.960 --> 33:42.360]  case that's the case where Chicago oh Chicago yeah I I knew that there was there was something
[33:42.360 --> 33:47.800]  going on I haven't heard any details about it well what they're doing is they're saying
[33:47.800 --> 33:55.720]  that that the federal government and the Constitution can be used to come into a state and make
[33:55.720 --> 34:06.480]  it illegal for a state to say that you can't have arms well it's the correct answer but
[34:06.480 --> 34:15.800]  it's the wrong reason all right we the people invented the state government the state government
[34:15.800 --> 34:22.320]  invented the federal government you can't have the federal government coming back and
[34:22.320 --> 34:29.960]  overriding the state that it's just bash backwards you know the federal government's at the bottom
[34:29.960 --> 34:34.800]  federal government can't tell the states to do anything we've already got 37 states with
[34:34.800 --> 34:40.480]  10th amendment resolutions where the state government is telling the federal government
[34:40.480 --> 34:47.600]  to you know take a long walk off a short pier if we want the state governments to understand
[34:47.600 --> 34:55.760]  what's going on then we the people need to assert it 23,000 gun laws the United States
[34:55.760 --> 35:03.720]  are unconstitutional what part of shall not be infringed don't you understand I have a
[35:03.720 --> 35:09.200]  right to life I have a right to protect my life and I will carry a gun if that's what
[35:09.200 --> 35:16.200]  I think is the best way to protect my life if nobody in this radio audience needs a church
[35:16.200 --> 35:21.800]  permit and if you don't need a church permit then I don't need a concealed carry permit
[35:21.800 --> 35:28.440]  that's the way it works so as far as I'm concerned 23,000 gun laws are completely invalid the
[35:28.440 --> 35:35.920]  people in Chicago need to step up and bitch slap mayor Daley for not understand what the
[35:35.920 --> 35:45.360]  hell his job is but you you get into trouble if you let if you think that the federal government
[35:45.360 --> 35:53.200]  can come in and step in it you know it may be the right conclusion for this particular
[35:53.200 --> 35:59.120]  thing but then it sets a precedent for the federal government to come in and tell the
[35:59.120 --> 36:06.560]  states what to do in other circumstances which is not right that make any sense so what you're
[36:06.560 --> 36:12.760]  saying is the Constitution has limitations that say you know you can't pass you know
[36:12.760 --> 36:19.600]  about you know you can't infringe the right to own a gun and you're saying in that case
[36:19.600 --> 36:27.760]  the Constitution should apply to state laws but in other cases it shouldn't apply to state
[36:27.760 --> 36:35.920]  laws no what I'm saying is you have to understand the way the flow of power is the flow of power
[36:35.920 --> 36:42.320]  is from we the people to the state from the state to the federal government the Constitution
[36:42.320 --> 36:50.040]  does not apply to you and me true the Constitution doesn't apply to me I'm not a congressman
[36:50.040 --> 36:55.880]  I'm not the president I'm not a Supreme Court justice doesn't apply to me the Constitution
[36:55.880 --> 37:04.120]  gives certain powers and many many limitations on the federal government so how does the
[37:04.120 --> 37:10.600]  federal how does the if I get this right how does the Constitution limit what the state
[37:10.600 --> 37:18.360]  can do it does well the only thing the only place that the Constitution limits state power
[37:18.360 --> 37:27.320]  is in article one section 10 if okay the states got together to create the federal government
[37:27.320 --> 37:31.880]  what is the federal government going to do the federal government is going to do things
[37:31.880 --> 37:38.920]  that would be inefficient excuse me inefficient for each of the state governments to do so
[37:38.920 --> 37:46.680]  you have 13 colonies should we have 13 separate armies no that's really inefficient so we're
[37:46.680 --> 37:52.520]  going to give the federal government the power to create an army to establish and maintain
[37:52.520 --> 37:59.080]  a navy okay to do the post offices you know the thing that it just makes more sense for
[37:59.080 --> 38:04.720]  for us the 13 colonies to do together well if we're going to give congress the power
[38:04.720 --> 38:13.120]  to coin money and regulate the value thereof in article one section 10 we're going to limit
[38:13.120 --> 38:20.720]  state power by saying the states may not use anything but gold or silver coin as tender
[38:20.720 --> 38:30.920]  and payment of debt so again we have to understand rights and privileges we the people have rights
[38:30.920 --> 38:37.280]  we give the government privileges which means that we can take those privileges away any
[38:37.280 --> 38:47.480]  damn time we want so the correct answer is that Chicago has no authority no authority
[38:47.480 --> 38:53.720]  to limit the people in Chicago from having guns that's the correct answer but in order
[38:53.720 --> 39:01.400]  to get the correct answer in the proper constitutional way you can't allow the federal government
[39:01.400 --> 39:08.760]  to come in and bitch slap Chicago what you need to do is have we the people specifically
[39:08.760 --> 39:15.960]  the people of Illinois you know rally in Chicago and say hey we're getting rid of all this
[39:15.960 --> 39:23.680]  stuff you got to do it properly if a child is misbehaving the correct answer is to spank
[39:23.680 --> 39:29.440]  the child and discipline it and make the child understand what it is what the child's doing
[39:29.440 --> 39:37.360]  wrong but it would be inappropriate for me to spank the child because I'm not the parent
[39:37.360 --> 39:41.440]  so the correct answer is to spank the child but you need to have the spanking come from
[39:41.440 --> 39:49.080]  the proper person Chicago is the misbehaving child you want to you know you want to reprimand
[39:49.080 --> 39:55.480]  Chicago for having these you know erroneous gun laws but to have the federal government
[39:55.480 --> 39:59.880]  come in that would be inappropriate because it's not the federal government's job to
[39:59.880 --> 40:08.200]  do that you need to have the parents in this case the people of Illinois to step up grow
[40:08.200 --> 40:13.320]  a set of colonies and say hey we're getting rid of all these gun laws you never had the
[40:13.320 --> 40:19.720]  authority to establish them in the first place so what you're saying is that with Chicago
[40:19.720 --> 40:26.320]  and its laws philosophically they should not have laws that infringe your rights to own
[40:26.320 --> 40:32.760]  guns however it's not the federal government's job to tell the state government what laws
[40:32.760 --> 40:40.040]  to pass correct whereas the federal government is indeed restricted from passing those kinds
[40:40.040 --> 40:47.800]  of laws yes explicitly explicitly forbidden by the second amendment now Michael Michael
[40:47.800 --> 40:54.240]  isn't it the supreme does the supreme court have authority to strike down the state laws
[40:54.240 --> 40:59.240]  that are unconstitutional of the as far as the being unconstitutional with regards to
[40:59.240 --> 41:08.840]  the u.s. constitution technically no no that's that's the way it operates but technically
[41:08.840 --> 41:17.240]  it doesn't have that power and in eighteen oh three in Marbury versus Madison which I
[41:17.240 --> 41:24.240]  believe is perhaps the most famous supreme court decision the Marbury versus Madison
[41:24.240 --> 41:32.280]  is good news and bad news the good news which is frequently quoted Marbury versus Madison
[41:32.280 --> 41:41.480]  says any law repugnant to the constitution is null and void and I agree I have rights
[41:41.480 --> 41:52.120]  23,000 gun laws I flat-out ignore them I don't need no stinking permit but the bad news is
[41:52.120 --> 41:58.120]  that Marbury versus Madison they also looked around and said wait a minute we're going
[41:58.120 --> 42:05.440]  to give or rather the supreme court is going to give itself the authority to determine
[42:05.440 --> 42:13.480]  what is or is not constitutional can't do that the constitution tells us what the supreme
[42:13.480 --> 42:19.600]  court is the supreme court does not tell us what the constitution is that ends up being
[42:19.600 --> 42:25.960]  circular logic and as a computer programmer you know I learn all about that kind of stuff
[42:25.960 --> 42:33.920]  if you have a spreadsheet on your computer just you know take a cell and say that this
[42:33.920 --> 42:40.680]  is a total of something right next to it and then in that cell calculate back to the first
[42:40.680 --> 42:45.600]  they don't put the first cell in that calculation and your spreadsheets going to spit it out
[42:45.600 --> 42:52.280]  go no you can't do that because this is a circular you know calculation and it just
[42:52.280 --> 43:00.640]  doesn't work if the supreme court is allowed to decide what the supreme court said or what
[43:00.640 --> 43:07.840]  the constitution says then the supreme court can decide that the constitution gives the
[43:07.840 --> 43:14.880]  supreme court more power than it used to have which is no limitation on supreme court power
[43:14.880 --> 43:20.120]  at all it's a non sequitur but isn't that in fact what's happened that is indeed what's
[43:20.120 --> 43:27.640]  happened you know and because people don't understand the constitution they don't understand
[43:27.640 --> 43:34.040]  simple logic and they've never researched any of this stuff on their own they said well
[43:34.040 --> 43:38.560]  you know these guys wear black bath robes you know we've got all these you know really
[43:38.560 --> 43:44.840]  important people you know they must know what they're doing all right listen we're going
[43:44.840 --> 43:50.360]  to break thorn do you want to hang on to the other side no i think i think i handled very
[43:50.360 --> 43:57.240]  well okay thank you thorn all right callers if you like to call in 512-646-1984 we will
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[45:52.720 --> 46:02.560]  michael badnerich and we're discussing michael's take on the constitution here and it looks
[46:02.560 --> 46:08.080]  to me to be correct the fact that the u.s. supreme court really doesn't have the authority
[46:08.080 --> 46:13.040]  the constitutional authority to strike down state laws as being unconstitutional they
[46:13.040 --> 46:19.840]  can only strike down federal laws as being unconstitutional and michael you were talking
[46:19.840 --> 46:27.520]  about what happened with these new deal laws back in the day back in 1929 there was a stock
[46:27.520 --> 46:34.480]  market crash which had nothing to do with the great depression the stock market crash
[46:34.480 --> 46:44.640]  is blamed for this great depression but the great depression was caused by a rapid contraction
[46:44.640 --> 46:51.000]  of the money supply which is just started again so everybody should you know hold on
[46:51.000 --> 46:56.200]  to their socks because we're going to have the second great depression here probably
[46:56.200 --> 47:03.840]  in less than a year the because of the first great depression people were having economic
[47:03.840 --> 47:13.040]  hardship franklin delanor roosevelt was the newly elected president and he wanted to enact
[47:13.040 --> 47:21.520]  a series of laws that we now refer to as the new deal socialist insecurity just being a
[47:21.520 --> 47:30.640]  part of that the supreme court at the time continued to strike down those laws saying
[47:30.640 --> 47:36.200]  that you can't pass this law in the united states it's socialism it's unconstitutional
[47:36.200 --> 47:43.200]  you can't do it and every time roosevelt tried to get another section of this law passed
[47:43.200 --> 47:52.440]  the supreme court stood in his way franklin delanor roosevelt then threatened the supreme
[47:52.440 --> 48:00.320]  court the constitution only specifies that the president of the united states will nominate
[48:00.320 --> 48:06.160]  candidates for the supreme court the constitution much to everybody's surprise does not tell
[48:06.160 --> 48:13.940]  us how many judges are supposed to be on the supreme court so over the course of time it
[48:13.940 --> 48:20.480]  started with five moved to seven went to nine went to 15 back to nine back to seven and
[48:20.480 --> 48:29.000]  then up to nine just for historical reference so at the time roosevelt decided that the
[48:29.000 --> 48:35.240]  supreme court would not give him what he wanted and so he threatened the supreme court he
[48:35.240 --> 48:42.360]  threatened to pack the court with a total of 45 supreme court judges most of whom would
[48:42.360 --> 48:50.360]  be appointed by roosevelt would vote the way that roosevelt wanted them to vote and it
[48:50.360 --> 48:55.600]  would make the supreme court look like a high school reunion with everybody in their you
[48:55.600 --> 49:01.760]  know tasseled hats well the supreme court decided that you know they would look really
[49:01.760 --> 49:08.880]  foolish and instead of standing up to this presidential threat they said let us review
[49:08.880 --> 49:17.580]  those laws again and suddenly all of these new deal laws that were originally unconstitutional
[49:17.580 --> 49:24.240]  now the supreme court's going up well i guess we can pass that and so the new deal was born
[49:24.240 --> 49:30.880]  franklin donah roosevelt succeeded in turning the united states into a socialist country
[49:30.880 --> 49:38.480]  did exactly the same thing to the united states that hitler did to germany and so we have
[49:38.480 --> 49:47.480]  been a socialist country basically since 1933 all of you on socialist insecurity they you
[49:47.480 --> 49:52.040]  know don't know whether you're going to be able to pay for food or medicine because you
[49:52.040 --> 50:00.600]  can't afford both now understand why that system doesn't work and it was back in i think
[50:00.600 --> 50:09.120]  1933 when all this happened prior to 1933 the only laws that the supreme court struck
[50:09.120 --> 50:17.240]  down were federal laws after that in order to have something to do the supreme court
[50:17.240 --> 50:25.240]  started striking down state laws as being unconstitutional which well they may even
[50:25.240 --> 50:32.600]  be correct in some cases but the supreme court technically doesn't have the authority to
[50:32.600 --> 50:39.600]  do that right because the bill of rights it talks about congress shall make no law concerning
[50:39.600 --> 50:44.640]  this or that and they're referring to the u.s congress not the state congresses is that
[50:44.640 --> 50:51.280]  correct that's correct you gotta it's like being on a one-way street you know and the
[50:51.280 --> 50:55.440]  police officer pulls you over says hey you're going the wrong way oh yeah officer but it
[50:55.440 --> 51:07.400]  was only going one way you know and it's like well okay yes that may be true but it was
[51:07.400 --> 51:14.840]  the wrong way so you got to understand that the flow of political power only goes in one
[51:14.840 --> 51:24.640]  direction the flow of power is from we the people to the states and from the states to
[51:24.640 --> 51:30.840]  the federal government if the federal government's on the bottom with the least amount of power
[51:30.840 --> 51:36.240]  the federal government cannot turn around and tell the states what to do that's going
[51:36.240 --> 51:43.120]  the wrong way on a one-way street wake up so i guess if you live in a state where they're
[51:43.120 --> 51:50.840]  grabbing guns like illinois you know what they're doing in chicago then you you have
[51:50.840 --> 51:57.360]  to petition for redress to that state government and i guess you best live in a state where
[51:57.360 --> 52:05.040]  the state constitution protects the right of gun ownership and the right to bear arms
[52:05.040 --> 52:12.160]  who is supposed who do you think is going to protect my right to keep and bear arms
[52:12.160 --> 52:18.920]  ultimately only you michael absolutely and that is not true just for me that is true
[52:18.920 --> 52:26.640]  for everybody listening you know your freedom of speech you don't have freedom of speech
[52:26.640 --> 52:32.400]  because the founding fathers ratified the first amendment you have freedom of speech
[52:32.400 --> 52:38.720]  only if you've got the courage to stand up and say what the hell you think if you're
[52:38.720 --> 52:46.040]  talking and i say sit down and shut up and you sit down and shut up where the hell is
[52:46.040 --> 52:52.560]  your first amendment rights thomas jefferson says you only have the rights that you are
[52:52.560 --> 52:59.520]  willing to fight for so if you're a chicken and you sit down and keep your mouth quiet
[52:59.520 --> 53:07.440]  because you're afraid then you don't have freedom of speech it doesn't matter what the
[53:07.440 --> 53:13.860]  first amendment says i have freedom of speech not because there's a first amendment but
[53:13.860 --> 53:29.200]  because i've never met an sob big enough to shut me up hello i like it indeed i like
[53:29.200 --> 53:36.040]  it you know you got to stand up for your rights you know 23 000 gun laws are unconstitutional
[53:36.040 --> 53:42.520]  they don't apply to me whenever i think i'm going into a dangerous area i carry my gun
[53:42.520 --> 53:47.520]  and people say well what happens when you you know police officer stops you well a police
[53:47.520 --> 53:55.080]  officer has never stopped me with my gun yet if and when that happens i imagine the police
[53:55.080 --> 53:59.800]  officer is going to say mr bednar if you're not allowed to carry that gun you know please
[53:59.800 --> 54:08.680]  hand it to me and i will say absolutely officer as soon as you give me your gun now i'm guessing
[54:08.680 --> 54:15.120]  that the police officer is not going to give me his or her gun and i'm going to explain
[54:15.120 --> 54:22.960]  that whatever excuse they are using that's the same excuse i'm using what's good for
[54:22.960 --> 54:29.880]  the goose is good for the gander and we can stand there and debate as long as they want
[54:29.880 --> 54:37.320]  to debate i am really good at debate i have never lost a political or philosophical debate
[54:37.320 --> 54:44.720]  in my life you want to talk about the second amendment for 10 hours fine you want to reach
[54:44.720 --> 54:51.520]  for my gun try to take it away from me your children are going to be orphans this is not
[54:51.520 --> 55:04.760]  negotiable you cannot have my testicles you cannot have my guns well said everyone has
[55:04.760 --> 55:10.200]  to draw the line everyone's got to figure out where they're going to draw the line for
[55:10.200 --> 55:16.600]  real absolutely so deborah if you're going to quote me you're going to have to paraphrase
[55:16.600 --> 55:24.360]  her now okay all right well we have a caller on the line we've got chris in missouri chris
[55:24.360 --> 55:29.160]  thank you for calling in what is your question for michael hi deborah thanks does this sound
[55:29.160 --> 55:34.600]  okay yeah just uh just try to get your mouth as close to the the mic as you can you know
[55:34.600 --> 55:38.400]  i have a macbook i don't even know where the little mic okay well then just get the get
[55:38.400 --> 55:42.240]  the screen right up next to your face i don't even know where the mic is on this thing listen
[55:42.240 --> 55:48.840]  i want to say i really appreciate the audio quality of your broadcast and your music uh
[55:48.840 --> 55:53.360]  unfortunately it seems like most of the patriot radio stations uh they're into this heavy
[55:53.360 --> 55:57.920]  metal stuff which i can't handle but anyway let me move on uh mr badnark thank you so
[55:57.920 --> 56:04.760]  much it's a pleasure to talk to you i have a friend who maintains and talking about the
[56:04.760 --> 56:13.600]  supreme court article 3 section 1 that congress was not authorized to create the supreme court
[56:13.600 --> 56:21.440]  but rather that the supreme court is we the people and he diagrams the sentence the judicial
[56:21.440 --> 56:28.160]  power of the united states shall be vested in one supreme court and in such inferior
[56:28.160 --> 56:34.440]  courts as the congress may from time to time ordain and establish and he says it is a great
[56:34.440 --> 56:40.200]  school exercise to diagram the sentence and he's had several school teachers and principals
[56:40.200 --> 56:45.520]  diagram the sentence separate the subject from the predicate note the pronoun note the
[56:45.520 --> 56:51.680]  note the punctuation and verbiage to turn which and note what monetize and determine
[56:51.680 --> 57:01.760]  the statement that we the people are we good but we the people are the supreme court and
[57:01.760 --> 57:11.000]  congress was only uh authorized to to create the inferior courts what's your take on that
[57:11.000 --> 57:20.440]  well that is true congress congress is able to create inferior courts basically the uh
[57:20.440 --> 57:28.960]  the regional you know like the uh i guess there are nine district courts um that congress
[57:28.960 --> 57:35.200]  can outline but we the people establish the power for the supreme court and they have
[57:35.200 --> 57:42.560]  jurisdiction and common law equity law and admiralty law but referring back to the declaration
[57:42.560 --> 57:52.080]  of independence we the people have the power and the right to alter or abolish the government
[57:52.080 --> 57:58.240]  and abolish means get rid of it completely people say no michael we can't do that constitution
[57:58.240 --> 58:04.440]  is the supreme law of land i go be us we've already done it once the article i'll come
[58:04.440 --> 58:09.200]  back after the break all right we'll be right back and callers if you'd like to call in
[58:09.200 --> 58:16.760]  five one two six four six nineteen eighty four we're here with very good friend mr
[58:16.760 --> 58:32.600]  michael bainer tonight we'll be right back after the top of the hour news break
[58:32.600 --> 58:47.160]  so
[59:47.160 --> 01:00:11.000]  Hong Kong is dumping 2.8 million doses of unwanted swine flu vaccine worth $28 million.
[01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:16.280]  The vaccines were offered free to health professionals, pregnant women, babies, the elderly and the
[01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:21.520]  sick, but it was shunned after two people had seizures and two women gave birth to stillborn
[01:00:21.520 --> 01:00:25.440]  babies after having the vaccine.
[01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:31.200]  In Afghanistan, an explosion in Kandahar province, Wednesday, killed 40 people at a wedding party
[01:00:31.200 --> 01:00:33.360]  and injured more than 80 others.
[01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:39.240]  Taliban spokesman Qari Yusuf Ahmadi said the blast was a US-led strike.
[01:00:39.240 --> 01:00:45.280]  US Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, Wednesday, told a Senate hearing he would ask BP to repay
[01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:50.320]  the salaries of workers laid off because of the six-month moratorium on deep-water drilling
[01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:51.960]  imposed by the US government.
[01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:58.840]  However, BP says the moratorium was a government decision, so those costs are not their responsibility.
[01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:04.880]  The Pentagon spent over $500 million since 9-11 renovating Guantanamo prison camp.
[01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:10.000]  In the first public accounting since January 2002, the Washington Post obtained from the
[01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:15.440]  military a breakdown of capital expenditures ranging from the mundane to the exotic.
[01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:21.800]  An electronic sign flashing time and temperature readings cost $188,000, an abandoned volleyball
[01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:31.800]  court, $249,000, an unused go-kart track, $296,000, and $3.5 million for 27 playgrounds.
[01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:38.000]  The Pentagon also spent $683,000 to renovate a cafe that sells ice cream and Starbucks
[01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:43.320]  coffee and $773,000 to remodel a Taco Bell restaurant.
[01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:49.160]  The $500 million does not include construction bonuses, which typically run into millions.
[01:01:49.160 --> 01:01:53.680]  Also not included were annual operating costs of $150 million.
[01:01:53.680 --> 01:01:56.200]  Double the amount for a comparable US prison.
[01:01:56.200 --> 01:02:01.920]  After adding clandestine black budget items such as the top-secret Camp 7 prison for high-value
[01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:07.800]  detainees nicknamed Camp Platinum, the bill for the 45-square-mile base approaches to
[01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:13.280]  $2 billion.
[01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:17.960]  Barack Obama Wednesday called on Israel to work with all parties to find a solution for
[01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:23.560]  Gaza and offer the Palestinians $400 million in aid as Washington sought to contain the
[01:02:23.560 --> 01:02:27.680]  fallout from Israel's botched raid of the Gaza flotilla.
[01:02:27.680 --> 01:02:33.360]  Obama urged Israel to curb settlement activity and called on Palestinians to prevent any
[01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:35.840]  actions that could incite confrontation.
[01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:41.520]  Obama called on Israel to reassess its blockade of the Gaza Strip, but said the best guarantee
[01:02:41.520 --> 01:02:44.760]  of a solution was an independent Palestinian state.
[01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:49.640]  The Obama administration has deemed unsustainable the three-year-old blockade, which Israel
[01:02:49.640 --> 01:02:54.640]  says is needed to stop weapons smuggling, and Palestinians call collective punishment.
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[01:03:36.640 --> 01:03:43.640]  Alright, we are here, it is Thursday, June 10th, we're here with our good friend Mr.
[01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:58.840]  Michael Badnerich, we're taking your calls, 512-646-1984, and we're discussing Chris
[01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:05.840]  in Missouri, Chris's question regarding the court system, the Supreme Court, and Congress
[01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:13.440]  having authority to set up lower courts and whether or not the Supreme Court is actually
[01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:20.440]  just we the people, and Michael, what is your take on all of that?
[01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:27.440]  No, we the people are the source of all political power, but the Constitution actually establishes
[01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:34.440]  a Supreme Court, the Supreme Court is there originally to strike down federal laws, supposed
[01:04:35.160 --> 01:04:42.160]  to be a check on the federal powers, on the President and on the Congress, but when Franklin
[01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:52.000]  Delano Roosevelt basically threatened to pack the court, then they turned around and the
[01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:59.000]  Supreme Court started striking down state laws instead of being a check on federal power.
[01:05:02.520 --> 01:05:09.520]  Somebody was asking about the difference between common law and equity law.
[01:05:09.520 --> 01:05:16.520]  Common law is all about property, and it's fairly cut and dry, you know, it is not exactly
[01:05:16.520 --> 01:05:23.520]  eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, but it leans in that direction, you know, you put
[01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:32.440]  your finger in the electrical outlet, you're going to get a bad shock, you know, and there's
[01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:38.880]  no escaping that, and so there were people who thought that common law can really be
[01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:44.760]  a little bit harsh, and they were looking for something that would, I don't know, cut
[01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:51.760]  people some slack. Equity law is supposed to be based on fairness.
[01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:58.480]  Well, if you're smart enough to know there is no such thing as fair, the courts are filled
[01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:03.520]  with people pointing, accusing fingers at each other, saying that the other person is
[01:06:03.520 --> 01:06:10.520]  not being fair, but I address it a little bit more in my book, Good to Be King, and
[01:06:10.520 --> 01:06:17.520]  in the back of my book, for those of you that already have a copy, I have an appendix which
[01:06:19.160 --> 01:06:26.160]  lists books, videotapes, and audiotapes that you can read, watch, and listen to, respectively.
[01:06:27.160 --> 01:06:32.160]  If you're interested in learning more about the different types of law, there is a book
[01:06:32.160 --> 01:06:37.160]  call, and if you get a pencil, I'll give you an ISBN number here in a second.
[01:06:37.160 --> 01:06:44.160]  The book is called The History of American Constitutional or Common Law with Commentary
[01:06:45.560 --> 01:06:52.560]  Concerning Equity and Merchant Law. It's written by Dale Pond, Howard Fisher,
[01:06:53.160 --> 01:06:58.160]  Richard Knutson, and the ISBN number is 1-57282.
[01:06:58.160 --> 01:07:05.160]  And the ISBN number is 1-57282-010-1. I'll give you the ISBN number again. 1-57282-0101.
[01:07:05.160 --> 01:07:12.160]  And it's apparently published by The Message Company, so that's one book. There's another
[01:07:12.160 --> 01:07:19.160]  book called Common Law of the United States of America of the Sovereign People, and it
[01:07:19.160 --> 01:07:25.160]  was written and compiled by Jerry and his wife, and it was published by The Message
[01:07:25.160 --> 01:07:30.160]  Company, and it's called Common Law of the United States of America of the Sovereign
[01:07:30.160 --> 01:07:35.160]  People, and it was written and compiled by Jerry and his wife, and it's called Common
[01:07:35.160 --> 01:07:42.160]  Law of the United States of America of the Sovereign People, and it was written and compiled
[01:07:42.160 --> 01:07:49.160]  by Jerry Henson, H-E-N-S-O-N. Again, if you get a copy of my book, it has this in the
[01:07:50.160 --> 01:07:54.160]  appendix, and you can go out and do some additional research.
[01:07:54.160 --> 01:07:57.160]  And how can people get a copy of your book, Michael?
[01:07:57.160 --> 01:08:05.160]  It is actually quite simple. They need to visit my website, ConstitutionPreservation.org.
[01:08:05.160 --> 01:08:13.160]  Again, the website, ConstitutionPreservation.org. Go to the menu item that says Book, and you
[01:08:13.160 --> 01:08:24.160]  can purchase the book, the DVD, or the book and DVD combination. And you can also go to
[01:08:24.160 --> 01:08:32.160]  Amazon.com, and people have purchased books, and they are reselling my book at prices anywhere
[01:08:32.160 --> 01:08:40.160]  between $50 and $120. Now, I don't know if people are actually selling my book for $120,
[01:08:40.160 --> 01:08:49.160]  but if they are, I want them to call me and tell me how to sell my book for $120. I mean,
[01:08:49.160 --> 01:08:53.160]  I'm surprised that people are willing to spend $20 to read my book.
[01:08:53.160 --> 01:08:55.160]  Oh, come on, Michael.
[01:08:55.160 --> 01:09:03.160]  I'm serious. You know, just a couple of notes that I took one year, and so it is written
[01:09:03.160 --> 01:09:10.160]  in a simplified form. It puts the Constitution and the Bill of Rights into language that
[01:09:10.160 --> 01:09:15.160]  anybody can understand. That's one of the things that people always tell me, like, oh,
[01:09:15.160 --> 01:09:20.160]  my God, you make it sound so simple. After reading your book, you know, I really, really
[01:09:20.160 --> 01:09:25.160]  understand the Constitution. Well, that's what an instructor is supposed to do. You
[01:09:25.160 --> 01:09:32.160]  know, take complicated subjects, break it down into the simple fundamentals. Once you
[01:09:32.160 --> 01:09:39.160]  understand the fundamentals, you can expand it out, you know, to all the possible permutations.
[01:09:39.160 --> 01:09:47.160]  You know, if I teach you how to add, you know, you can not only add two plus two, but you
[01:09:47.160 --> 01:09:57.160]  can add large multiple-digit numbers because you understand the basic premise. So it doesn't
[01:09:57.160 --> 01:10:03.160]  matter how big the numbers are, the process is the same, and now there's an infinite number
[01:10:03.160 --> 01:10:09.160]  of arithmetic problems that you can solve on your own. So when I teach the Constitution,
[01:10:09.160 --> 01:10:18.160]  I teach very basic principles. You know, I spend time on those principles, very much
[01:10:18.160 --> 01:10:27.160]  like the Karate Kid. You remember the Karate Kid movie, the first one with Ralph Macchio
[01:10:27.160 --> 01:10:35.160]  or whatever the little boy's name was and Pat Morita? Anyway, the boy wants to learn
[01:10:35.160 --> 01:10:41.160]  karate, and the karate master says, okay, paint the fence up, down, up, down, and then,
[01:10:41.160 --> 01:10:47.160]  you know, wax on, wax off for the car, and they're supposed to do it in a certain manner.
[01:10:47.160 --> 01:10:52.160]  Well, the boy thinks that he's being taken advantage of, you know, he's like, well, you're
[01:10:52.160 --> 01:10:57.160]  just getting me to do all your chores and you're not teaching me karate. Well, it turns
[01:10:57.160 --> 01:11:03.160]  out all of those movements were the fundamentals for the karate movements that he was going
[01:11:03.160 --> 01:11:08.160]  to learn later. I do the same thing. I talk about the fundamentals for the Constitution.
[01:11:08.160 --> 01:11:14.160]  Why do we have any government at all? You know, what is the valid purpose of government?
[01:11:14.160 --> 01:11:24.160]  Why did the founding fathers choose a constitutional republic? Why not socialism? Why not communism?
[01:11:24.160 --> 01:11:30.160]  And many people start out thinking that, well, this is completely off the topic. We're not
[01:11:30.160 --> 01:11:37.160]  talking about the Constitution. Well, technically, that's true. We don't talk about the Constitution
[01:11:37.160 --> 01:11:45.160]  in my class until after lunch. However, once you understand the basics, once you understand
[01:11:45.160 --> 01:11:50.160]  the fundamentals, now, when we get to the Constitution, you know, you don't really need
[01:11:50.160 --> 01:11:56.160]  my help that much. You know, we read the Constitution and go, well, what's that supposed to do?
[01:11:56.160 --> 01:12:00.160]  Well, it's supposed to protect my life, liberty, and property. How do you know? Well, that's
[01:12:00.160 --> 01:12:06.160]  the only valid purpose for the Constitution in the first place. It's all about life, liberty,
[01:12:06.160 --> 01:12:14.160]  and property. And once you understand that, then, I mean, all of the answers fall into
[01:12:14.160 --> 01:12:20.160]  place. You go, God, this is really easy. You know, it's like, yeah. It's like, well, how
[01:12:20.160 --> 01:12:24.160]  come the Supreme Court doesn't know this? Well, because the Supreme Court's never taken
[01:12:24.160 --> 01:12:35.160]  my class. Yeah, that and they probably are individuals that want to destroy the Constitution
[01:12:35.160 --> 01:12:44.160]  and destroy our ability to defend our rights. Anybody who says that the Constitution is
[01:12:44.160 --> 01:12:51.160]  a living document is somebody who wants to kill the Constitution. That's just true. You
[01:12:51.160 --> 01:12:57.160]  know, the Constitution is not a living document. We had a right to life, a right to liberty,
[01:12:57.160 --> 01:13:05.160]  and a right to property back in 1789. Have we lost our right to life? No. Have we lost
[01:13:05.160 --> 01:13:12.160]  our right to liberty? No. Have we lost our right to own property? No, no, no. So the
[01:13:12.160 --> 01:13:19.160]  Constitution is just as valid today as it was back in 1789 when it was ratified. Stop
[01:13:19.160 --> 01:13:26.160]  telling me that the Constitution is old and antiquated, needs to be rewritten. BS. It
[01:13:26.160 --> 01:13:36.160]  basically spells out human fundamental principles. If someone had written a book on gravity back
[01:13:36.160 --> 01:13:43.160]  in 1789, would we have to rewrite the book on gravity? Has gravity changed over the last
[01:13:43.160 --> 01:13:52.160]  250 years? No. Gravity is eternal. Gravity is ubiquitous. It's everywhere. You can't
[01:13:52.160 --> 01:13:59.160]  go anywhere where there's not gravity. So if you understood gravity back in 1789, you
[01:13:59.160 --> 01:14:06.160]  understand gravity today. If you understood the individual rights in 1789, then you understand
[01:14:06.160 --> 01:14:12.160]  the individual rights today. The problem is people don't understand individual rights.
[01:14:12.160 --> 01:14:17.160]  They have no idea the difference between rights and privileges. They think that anybody in
[01:14:17.160 --> 01:14:22.160]  a black robe must know what they're doing, and I've got to get a driver's license, got
[01:14:22.160 --> 01:14:27.160]  to get a concealed carry permit, got to do what the government allows me to do. Oh dear,
[01:14:27.160 --> 01:14:38.160]  oh dear. Yeah. Yeah. And once people understand basic fundamental rights, then reading the
[01:14:38.160 --> 01:14:42.160]  Constitution and understanding it is no big deal, like you say. And Michael, I'll tell
[01:14:42.160 --> 01:14:51.160]  you, any communist, liberal tree-hugging hippies who spend a couple of hours or an afternoon
[01:14:51.160 --> 01:14:57.160]  with you or take your class, and they'll come out the most gun-toting property rights activist
[01:14:57.160 --> 01:15:03.160]  liberty lover. I'll tell you that. I know because it happened to some of my friends.
[01:15:03.160 --> 01:15:11.160]  Well, I had a woman come to my Constitution class. She announced that for the previous
[01:15:11.160 --> 01:15:20.160]  25 years, she was teaching welfare workers how to distribute benefits. I mean, she was
[01:15:20.160 --> 01:15:29.160]  basically a flaming socialist, and I'm stunned. She's admitting this to me at the beginning
[01:15:29.160 --> 01:15:35.160]  of class. Well, by the end of the day, she was hugging me, and she said, I don't know
[01:15:35.160 --> 01:15:48.160]  how I'm going to go to work on Monday. Wow. Indeed. So the problem is that socialists
[01:15:48.160 --> 01:15:58.160]  claim that there is no private property. Well, okay, that's like claiming that there is no
[01:15:58.160 --> 01:16:04.160]  gravity. If somebody's telling you gravity doesn't exist, there is no gravity. What would
[01:16:04.160 --> 01:16:09.160]  you do to convince them? It's like Russia putting the flag at the bottom of the ocean
[01:16:09.160 --> 01:16:16.160]  at the North Pole. So if somebody says there is no gravity, I go, really? Okay, I believe
[01:16:16.160 --> 01:16:24.160]  you. Come over here to the edge of the cliff and step off. Prove that there is no gravity.
[01:16:24.160 --> 01:16:30.160]  Well, no, I don't want to do that. It's like, why not? You told me there's no gravity. Just
[01:16:30.160 --> 01:16:37.160]  walk out there just like Wiley Coyote. That's when they tell you that they didn't mean
[01:16:37.160 --> 01:16:42.160]  gravity. They just call it fall down instead of gravity. All right, well, listen, we've
[01:16:42.160 --> 01:16:47.160]  got some callers stacking up on the board. We've got Ron, Eric, and Matt. So we'll start
[01:16:47.160 --> 01:16:51.160]  going to your calls when we get back on the other side. We're here with our very good
[01:16:51.160 --> 01:17:01.160]  friend, Michael, Bad, and Eric. We'll be right back.
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[01:18:02.160 --> 01:18:26.160]  Okay, we're back. We're going to your calls. Ron from Louisiana, you were up first, but
[01:18:26.160 --> 01:18:33.160]  you dropped off the line during the break, and so did Matt. So, callers, please call
[01:18:33.160 --> 01:18:38.160]  back in. Ron, we'll get to you next. So, in the meantime, we're going to go to Eric
[01:18:38.160 --> 01:18:42.160]  in North Carolina. Eric, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind? What's your question
[01:18:42.160 --> 01:18:43.160]  for Michael Bannerich?
[01:18:43.160 --> 01:18:48.160]  Yeah, I'll give you an update on the call I gave you Monday and ask Michael his opinion
[01:18:48.160 --> 01:18:56.160]  about my situation. In Michael, last weekend in North Carolina, I was doing some errands
[01:18:56.160 --> 01:19:02.160]  and drove up on a police roadblock, and they were checking licenses, and I did not consent
[01:19:02.160 --> 01:19:09.160]  to have my license checked. I questioned about whether or not I was under arrest or detention
[01:19:09.160 --> 01:19:15.160]  and what was the reason for the stop, and I kept asking if I was free to go, and the
[01:19:15.160 --> 01:19:22.160]  guy that was talking to me, I guess he was a rookie, he didn't know what to say, and
[01:19:22.160 --> 01:19:28.160]  he asked me to talk to the supervisor, and the supervisor said I was free to go, so I
[01:19:28.160 --> 01:19:35.160]  left. I complained to the city council here. I found out that, well, the mayor told me
[01:19:35.160 --> 01:19:41.160]  to talk to the city manager. He said they have a manager council form of government
[01:19:41.160 --> 01:19:48.160]  that the council does policy and the manager does management. Well, I got to try to convince
[01:19:48.160 --> 01:19:57.160]  the policy makers that letting their cops do roadblocks is a bad idea.
[01:19:57.160 --> 01:19:58.160]  Excellent.
[01:19:58.160 --> 01:19:59.160]  Yeah.
[01:19:59.160 --> 01:20:05.160]  And so you did not give an ID to the police at the roadblock?
[01:20:05.160 --> 01:20:06.160]  I did not.
[01:20:06.160 --> 01:20:08.160]  Excellent. Congratulations.
[01:20:08.160 --> 01:20:12.160]  Thank you. Well, it's because of listening to Randy and Debra and Eddie.
[01:20:12.160 --> 01:20:15.160]  Yeah, tell a story for Michael, Eric.
[01:20:15.160 --> 01:20:17.160]  Yes, we're such rabble-rousers here.
[01:20:17.160 --> 01:20:25.160]  I was driving on Saturday in North Carolina and came up on a roadblock on a residential
[01:20:25.160 --> 01:20:30.160]  side street. It was not a main road. They weren't checking for a complete, you know,
[01:20:30.160 --> 01:20:34.160]  they weren't checking for a particular reason, just checking everybody, and they call it
[01:20:34.160 --> 01:20:41.160]  a safety station roadblock. And so I pulled up and he approached the car and asked for
[01:20:41.160 --> 01:20:46.160]  my license, and I said, am I under arrest? And he said, no, I'd like to see your license.
[01:20:46.160 --> 01:20:51.160]  And I said, am I being detained? And he said, well, I'd like to see your license.
[01:20:51.160 --> 01:20:55.160]  I said, well, what's the reason for the stop? And he said, well, we're just checking
[01:20:55.160 --> 01:21:01.160]  everybody's license. And I said, am I under arrest? And he said, no, well, and I said,
[01:21:01.160 --> 01:21:06.160]  am I free to go? And he said, well, I need to see your license. And I said, what's the
[01:21:06.160 --> 01:21:12.160]  reason for the stop? And he said, it's a sunny day, and like he wasn't really sure,
[01:21:12.160 --> 01:21:17.160]  didn't know what to tell me. And so I said, am I free to go? And he said, would you like
[01:21:17.160 --> 01:21:24.160]  to speak to my supervisor? So I said yes, and the supervisor sergeant came up and I
[01:21:24.160 --> 01:21:30.160]  said, am I free to go? And the supervisor said yes, you can go. So I left.
[01:21:30.160 --> 01:21:34.160]  That's because they know what they were doing was wrong. Good for you, Eric.
[01:21:34.160 --> 01:21:40.160]  Subsequently, the city councilman that's a friend of mine emailed the chief and
[01:21:40.160 --> 01:21:48.160]  asked the chief for their authorization to do roadblocks, and she sent him a quote
[01:21:48.160 --> 01:21:54.160]  from the state statute that allows them to do it. And I read that and sent him back
[01:21:54.160 --> 01:21:58.160]  some of my opinion about whether or not it's constitutional. But I'd like to get
[01:21:58.160 --> 01:22:02.160]  Michael's thoughts about how I'm going to convince him that what they're doing is
[01:22:02.160 --> 01:22:10.160]  illegal. I can agree with you that it is illegal. I don't know how you're going to
[01:22:10.160 --> 01:22:19.160]  convince them. Okay. I mean, I can't understand why people have allowed it to
[01:22:19.160 --> 01:22:28.160]  go this long. I don't know what people think sometimes. It's just going to take
[01:22:28.160 --> 01:22:32.160]  persistence on your part. That's all I can say.
[01:22:32.160 --> 01:22:37.160]  If you'll send me a copy of that statute that they're saying authorizes them to
[01:22:37.160 --> 01:22:41.160]  do it or send me a link to where it is, I'll be happy to take a look at it and see
[01:22:41.160 --> 01:22:43.160]  if they actually read it correctly.
[01:22:43.160 --> 01:22:47.160]  And also another thing, Eric, that I was going to mention, when you called in
[01:22:47.160 --> 01:22:53.160]  before and your first instinct or your first thought was to go to the police chief
[01:22:53.160 --> 01:22:58.160]  about this and we were saying no because the police chief is not directly
[01:22:58.160 --> 01:23:03.160]  accountable to us because they're not elected officials. And if it was the
[01:23:03.160 --> 01:23:06.160]  sheriff's office doing this, the sheriff's department would be a different story.
[01:23:06.160 --> 01:23:13.160]  It sounds like they're trying to put you in a situation where you're going to be
[01:23:13.160 --> 01:23:18.160]  in the same kind of runaround by sending you to the city manager if the city
[01:23:18.160 --> 01:23:23.160]  manager is not an elected official. Is the city manager an elected official?
[01:23:23.160 --> 01:23:24.160]  No.
[01:23:24.160 --> 01:23:28.160]  Okay. We'll see then. They're just trying to push you off into a bunch of
[01:23:28.160 --> 01:23:33.160]  administrative red tape mumbo jumbo because you're in the same position trying
[01:23:33.160 --> 01:23:37.160]  to deal with the city manager as you would be if you were trying to deal with
[01:23:37.160 --> 01:23:41.160]  the police chief. The city manager is not directly accountable to you. You need to
[01:23:41.160 --> 01:23:48.160]  petition and hold accountable the elected officials and like Eddie's saying,
[01:23:48.160 --> 01:23:54.160]  send him the statute and study that statute carefully because if they do not
[01:23:54.160 --> 01:24:00.160]  have statutory authority to do this, then what needs to be done is criminal
[01:24:00.160 --> 01:24:06.160]  charges need to be filed against the city manager and the mayor and the city
[01:24:06.160 --> 01:24:12.160]  council. Ultimately, we have to pressure the elected officials, the officials
[01:24:12.160 --> 01:24:15.160]  that are accountable to us.
[01:24:15.160 --> 01:24:21.160]  I will send the copy to Eddie's email but I'm convinced they have statutory
[01:24:21.160 --> 01:24:27.160]  authority but the statute is unlawful and they're doing something that's not
[01:24:27.160 --> 01:24:32.160]  permitted and they think they can do it because it's cars and roads and they're
[01:24:32.160 --> 01:24:34.160]  wrong.
[01:24:34.160 --> 01:24:40.160]  The one thing about that is the statute is not necessarily unconstitutional. It
[01:24:40.160 --> 01:24:44.160]  is the application of the statute the way they're doing it that is
[01:24:44.160 --> 01:24:51.160]  unconstitutional. If the statute is written in such a way as to specifically
[01:24:51.160 --> 01:24:57.160]  work against those engaged in commerce, it's constitutional but if it's being
[01:24:57.160 --> 01:25:02.160]  used against those that are not engaged in commerce, its application is
[01:25:02.160 --> 01:25:07.160]  unconstitutional because you don't follow the power of that regulation.
[01:25:07.160 --> 01:25:12.160]  I have to look deeper into it than I have before I can answer that but I'm in
[01:25:12.160 --> 01:25:23.160]  that process now. I'm going to persist in trying to convince the council that
[01:25:23.160 --> 01:25:28.160]  it's their job to put a stop to this but that's where I'm at right now.
[01:25:28.160 --> 01:25:33.160]  Right and Eddie's absolutely 100% correct and we went over this issue the
[01:25:33.160 --> 01:25:40.160]  other night in regards to showing ID and in Texas in part of the transportation
[01:25:40.160 --> 01:25:46.160]  code, we discussed this on the air, concerning that officers have the
[01:25:46.160 --> 01:25:53.160]  authority to pull people over to check to see if they have a driver's license
[01:25:53.160 --> 01:26:01.160]  as long as the officer has reason to believe that that person is engaging in
[01:26:01.160 --> 01:26:08.160]  commerce on the roadways and if they are engaging in commerce on the roadways,
[01:26:08.160 --> 01:26:12.160]  then yes, they fall under those regulations and they have to produce the
[01:26:12.160 --> 01:26:18.160]  driver's license but if you are a traveler, then no, you don't. You don't
[01:26:18.160 --> 01:26:26.160]  have to show any ID and you don't need a license to travel in your vehicle,
[01:26:26.160 --> 01:26:32.160]  in your private conveyance so this is the fine line here when it comes to this
[01:26:32.160 --> 01:26:37.160]  application because then people think, oh, the law is unconstitutional and
[01:26:37.160 --> 01:26:41.160]  they're violating my rights and stuff. Well, in a way actually they're not
[01:26:41.160 --> 01:26:48.160]  because if the whole statute is structured to regulate commerce and not
[01:26:48.160 --> 01:26:54.160]  to restrict the right to travel, then like Eddie says, no, it's not
[01:26:54.160 --> 01:26:59.160]  unconstitutional. It's the application and by you standing up for your rights
[01:26:59.160 --> 01:27:04.160]  because you are a traveler and see the police, they know these things. They
[01:27:04.160 --> 01:27:09.160]  obviously know these things because when they get challenged on it, a lot of the
[01:27:09.160 --> 01:27:14.160]  time, even on the side of the roadway, they can see that you know the law, you
[01:27:14.160 --> 01:27:19.160]  know your rights and they know that all these transportation codes, they only
[01:27:19.160 --> 01:27:24.160]  apply to people engaged in commerce on the public roadways and so that's why
[01:27:24.160 --> 01:27:30.160]  they let you go. Well, I'm going to be studying up on the North Carolina
[01:27:30.160 --> 01:27:34.160]  statute and get as much of the details. I understand the point you just made
[01:27:34.160 --> 01:27:40.160]  about the difference between commerce and travel. Yes, and actually I was going
[01:27:40.160 --> 01:27:46.160]  to suggest in these kinds of situations, to really push the issue, lawsuits need
[01:27:46.160 --> 01:27:51.160]  to be filed but in your case, I'm not sure if that would really help because in
[01:27:51.160 --> 01:27:58.160]  a way you were not harmed because they let you go. They did not pursue the
[01:27:58.160 --> 01:28:02.160]  detention and so in your case, you may not actually have standing for a lawsuit
[01:28:02.160 --> 01:28:07.160]  where somebody else who was maybe detained or forced to give their license
[01:28:07.160 --> 01:28:11.160]  or search or these kinds of things and they would have standing but definitely
[01:28:11.160 --> 01:28:15.160]  this is something that needs to be vetted out so good work, Eric. Yeah, thanks
[01:28:15.160 --> 01:28:22.160]  Michael. My pleasure, thank you. Bye. So Michael, what is your take on what Eddie
[01:28:22.160 --> 01:28:26.160]  and I and Eric were just talking about concerning these transportation laws
[01:28:26.160 --> 01:28:32.160]  that really are only written to regulate commerce. Do you agree that those are
[01:28:32.160 --> 01:28:40.160]  constitutional? Well, they are. They're there to regulate commerce and I think
[01:28:40.160 --> 01:28:45.160]  Eddie said that they're not unconstitutional in and of themselves.
[01:28:45.160 --> 01:28:50.160]  They're unconstitutional because they try to apply it to those of us who are not
[01:28:50.160 --> 01:28:58.160]  engaged in commerce and I agree with that 100 percent. Absolutely. So we have to
[01:28:58.160 --> 01:29:04.160]  hold their feet to the fire so to speak and when they try to... Oh, that's only a
[01:29:04.160 --> 01:29:12.160]  metaphor? Oh my gosh, no wonder these guys were upset with me. Michael, Michael
[01:29:12.160 --> 01:29:18.160]  really would hold their feet to the fire. Eddie wants to tar and feather them. Oh,
[01:29:18.160 --> 01:29:25.160]  my kind of guy. That's on a good day. I've got suggestions for worse days. Oh
[01:29:25.160 --> 01:29:30.160]  yeah, well I get crabby too but I'll sacrifice two of my pillows, I'll be
[01:29:30.160 --> 01:29:36.160]  there and I'll build a fire to melt the tar. Hey, I got all the pine trees in the
[01:29:36.160 --> 01:29:43.160]  world to cut down and make rails with and they'll stick to them when they sit.
[01:29:43.160 --> 01:29:48.160]  All right, listen, we're taking our calls. We've got Michael from Maryland. You're
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[01:32:28.160 --> 01:32:35.160]  rule of law. We're speaking with Michael Badneric and we're taking your calls.
[01:32:35.160 --> 01:32:43.160]  Callers, if you would like to call in, 512-646-1984. We've got Michael from
[01:32:43.160 --> 01:32:46.160]  Maryland on the line. Michael, thanks for calling in. What's your question for
[01:32:46.160 --> 01:32:51.160]  Michael Badneric? Yes, hi folks and hi Michael Badneric. I was in a
[01:32:51.160 --> 01:32:55.160]  conversation with a co-worker today about immigration. Somehow we got on that
[01:32:55.160 --> 01:33:00.160]  topic and he brought up a fascinating point that I'd never thought about or
[01:33:00.160 --> 01:33:04.160]  studied, which is that apparently, I say apparently because I'm not nearly as
[01:33:04.160 --> 01:33:08.160]  well-versed as you on the Constitution, but apparently the Constitution really
[01:33:08.160 --> 01:33:16.160]  didn't go so far as to define or describe what a citizen is. There is
[01:33:16.160 --> 01:33:20.160]  language about a natural born citizen, as we know, for the President. Anyway,
[01:33:20.160 --> 01:33:26.160]  that led me to study up a little bit as best I could during the workday today on
[01:33:26.160 --> 01:33:32.160]  the 14th Amendment. My question to you is, I stumbled across among all things,
[01:33:32.160 --> 01:33:37.160]  you find truth in some of the most unlikely places. I found, of all things, a
[01:33:37.160 --> 01:33:43.160]  discussion about the 14th Amendment in the context of people of color and it
[01:33:43.160 --> 01:33:49.160]  said a website called Ban the N-Word of all things. It says after describing how
[01:33:49.160 --> 01:33:53.160]  the process that led to the ratification of the 14th Amendment was itself
[01:33:53.160 --> 01:33:58.160]  handled in an unconstitutional manner or was unconstitutional, it then goes on
[01:33:58.160 --> 01:34:02.160]  to say it follows that the persons of African-American descent are not
[01:34:02.160 --> 01:34:06.160]  constitutional citizens of the United States of America and asks a series of
[01:34:06.160 --> 01:34:10.160]  questions, all of which the answers to which are no. Then at the very end of all
[01:34:10.160 --> 01:34:16.160]  that it says, I do have a question by the way, what is the constitutional
[01:34:16.160 --> 01:34:20.160]  citizenship of all other persons in America? Are they citizens in the
[01:34:20.160 --> 01:34:23.160]  constitutional sense in order to answer this question, blah, blah, blah, and so
[01:34:23.160 --> 01:34:28.160]  they go on to basically say at the very end of this thing, really none of us are,
[01:34:28.160 --> 01:34:33.160]  what does it say, what is the constitutional citizenship status of naturalized
[01:34:33.160 --> 01:34:38.160]  citizens and describes that and basically says nothing short of a
[01:34:38.160 --> 01:34:41.160]  constitutional convention. It can remedy the problems raised in the above
[01:34:41.160 --> 01:34:46.160]  observations, which includes the fact that for all practical purposes the
[01:34:46.160 --> 01:34:50.160]  citizens of the United States are not really citizens of a free country but are
[01:34:50.160 --> 01:34:54.160]  still subjects of like the English monarchy. But anyway, long story short, I
[01:34:54.160 --> 01:34:58.160]  was curious to get your take on whether you think first of all the 14th Amendment
[01:34:58.160 --> 01:35:03.160]  was ratified properly, but second of all whether there is some truth to the idea
[01:35:03.160 --> 01:35:10.160]  that it didn't so much as raise freed slaves up to the level of all the rest of
[01:35:10.160 --> 01:35:17.160]  the citizens of non-color, the whites, or whether it did the reverse, whether it
[01:35:17.160 --> 01:35:22.160]  took everybody and put them to their level and effectively made us all, quote
[01:35:22.160 --> 01:35:28.160]  unquote, in terms of the way it was handled, subjects of the federal
[01:35:28.160 --> 01:35:31.160]  government. You and I both know that that's not true. We are as free as we
[01:35:31.160 --> 01:35:35.160]  want to be because God made us that way. So you see where I'm coming from with
[01:35:35.160 --> 01:35:47.160]  that question. Well, it was a long-winded way to ask it, but yes, I agree that the
[01:35:47.160 --> 01:35:54.160]  14th Amendment was intended to subjugate the blacks, subsequently was used to
[01:35:54.160 --> 01:36:01.160]  subjugate whites, that all of us are considered corporate citizens under the
[01:36:01.160 --> 01:36:08.160]  federal government subject to the jurisdiction thereof, but overall it's
[01:36:08.160 --> 01:36:14.160]  only a piece of paper. You are only a United States citizen because someone
[01:36:14.160 --> 01:36:21.160]  else said so. Now you've signed a lot of, there's a lot of prima facie evidence
[01:36:21.160 --> 01:36:25.160]  that you are a United States citizen. Your birth certificate, Social Security
[01:36:25.160 --> 01:36:30.160]  number, driver's license, voter registration card, all of these things,
[01:36:30.160 --> 01:36:34.160]  especially your voter registration card, the last question is, are you a United
[01:36:34.160 --> 01:36:40.160]  States citizen? And most of us, in our ignorance, will check that box and go,
[01:36:40.160 --> 01:36:46.160]  well, yes, of course I'm a United States citizen, having no clue of the political
[01:36:46.160 --> 01:36:51.160]  implications of that. But it's my seven-foot-tall purple rabbit thing, you
[01:36:51.160 --> 01:36:56.160]  know? If the card says, are you a seven-foot-tall purple rabbit, and I check
[01:36:56.160 --> 01:37:03.160]  it, yes, you know, because I'm ignorant of the, you know, legal ramifications,
[01:37:03.160 --> 01:37:08.160]  just because I've checked it, yes, still does not make me a seven-foot-tall
[01:37:08.160 --> 01:37:15.160]  purple rabbit. And so you need to teach people about all these things. It's not
[01:37:15.160 --> 01:37:23.160]  true because somebody else alleges that it's true. And this is what I started
[01:37:23.160 --> 01:37:28.160]  talking about with the appeal to authority. You know, people, when we're
[01:37:28.160 --> 01:37:32.160]  growing up, you know, we're listening to our parents, the teachers, the police
[01:37:32.160 --> 01:37:37.160]  officers, your manager at work. Then you get into the patriot community, and we
[01:37:37.160 --> 01:37:41.160]  stand around the table, and I'm holding up, well, my Constitution is the Supreme
[01:37:41.160 --> 01:37:45.160]  Law of the Land. Somebody else says, yes, but the Bill of Rights says this. And
[01:37:45.160 --> 01:37:49.160]  the third person says, well, the United States Code explicitly says, and they
[01:37:49.160 --> 01:37:54.160]  quote from that, and someone else says, well, the Supreme Court decision rules
[01:37:54.160 --> 01:37:59.160]  this, and everybody's holding up their piece of paper, you know, as to argue as
[01:37:59.160 --> 01:38:07.160]  to which piece of paper is going to take precedence. It's just a frickin' piece
[01:38:07.160 --> 01:38:14.160]  of paper. Let's stop agonizing over the words in any of these pieces of paper.
[01:38:14.160 --> 01:38:19.160]  Let's sit down like rational human beings, because the Constitution is not
[01:38:19.160 --> 01:38:24.160]  perfect. We don't know what the Founding Fathers, everything that the Founding
[01:38:24.160 --> 01:38:28.160]  Fathers meant, except unless you read the Federalist Papers, the
[01:38:28.160 --> 01:38:33.160]  Anti-Federalist Papers, and James Madison's notes. But let's you and I sit
[01:38:33.160 --> 01:38:41.160]  down as rational adults and decide how it should be. If it was broke, then we're
[01:38:41.160 --> 01:38:49.160]  going to fix it now. How should it be? What is the logic behind that? Who owns
[01:38:49.160 --> 01:38:55.160]  your body? The answer is you own your body. Only you decide what food you eat,
[01:38:55.160 --> 01:39:01.160]  what liquid you drink, and whether or not you get a vaccination. And once you
[01:39:01.160 --> 01:39:06.160]  understand these fundamental principles, you're going, wait a minute, most of
[01:39:06.160 --> 01:39:11.160]  what the government does is unconstitutional. And I look at my students
[01:39:11.160 --> 01:39:16.160]  and go, what are you, some kind of constitutional expert? And they go, well
[01:39:16.160 --> 01:39:22.160]  no, it says that Congress shall not. And I go, oh my God, so you're literate.
[01:39:22.160 --> 01:39:28.160]  You have this crazy idea that when the Constitution says Congress shall not,
[01:39:28.160 --> 01:39:36.160]  that, well, they're not supposed to be doing that. It's not rocket science.
[01:39:36.160 --> 01:39:40.160]  The Founding Fathers deliberately made the Constitution fairly simple to
[01:39:40.160 --> 01:39:45.160]  understand. But, I mean, you had to be literate. You had to be able to read and
[01:39:45.160 --> 01:39:50.160]  write. You had to be able to discuss ideas. And most people who have gone
[01:39:50.160 --> 01:39:55.160]  through government-controlled schools don't know how to do that.
[01:39:55.160 --> 01:39:58.160]  Well, thank you for that insightful reply. I was just wondering before I hang
[01:39:58.160 --> 01:40:02.160]  up if you could compare notes just briefly with Eddie Craig with regards to
[01:40:02.160 --> 01:40:07.160]  whether you either use or are in favor of or have any differences in the way
[01:40:07.160 --> 01:40:12.160]  you implement the Affidavit of Truth regarding travel, you know, that you might
[01:40:12.160 --> 01:40:16.160]  handle, hand to a police officer if they pull you over with that stunt about
[01:40:16.160 --> 01:40:20.160]  license and registration, or would you just handle it like that last guy that was
[01:40:20.160 --> 01:40:23.160]  on the phone, on the line? Thank you very much, and I'll listen for your answer
[01:40:23.160 --> 01:40:27.160]  off the line. Off the air. Thank you, Michael. Thank you.
[01:40:27.160 --> 01:40:32.160]  I'd usually just get in their face and argue with them and let it come right
[01:40:32.160 --> 01:40:40.160]  off the top of my head. Back in 1997, I sat down and wrote an Affidavit of
[01:40:40.160 --> 01:40:46.160]  Sovereignty. There is no form. I didn't call the government and say, could you
[01:40:46.160 --> 01:40:50.160]  please send me the Affidavit of Sovereignty form? The Founding Fathers did
[01:40:50.160 --> 01:40:57.160]  not contact King George and say, what form do we fill out in order to create a
[01:40:57.160 --> 01:41:02.160]  Declaration of Independence? We would like to leave England. We would like to
[01:41:02.160 --> 01:41:07.160]  become free in independent states, and we want to follow the rules on how to do
[01:41:07.160 --> 01:41:14.160]  that correctly. There are no rules. There are no formal rules on how you leave
[01:41:14.160 --> 01:41:20.160]  your current form of government. You just write it down, you say it, and you make
[01:41:20.160 --> 01:41:26.160]  it happen. You write the Declaration of Independence. You say that you're free,
[01:41:26.160 --> 01:41:31.160]  sovereign, independent states, and then, if necessary, you fight the American
[01:41:31.160 --> 01:41:39.160]  Revolution and kick butt. So there is no form to fill out. I invented my own
[01:41:39.160 --> 01:41:47.160]  form. An Affidavit is a legal declaration of truth, and within the court system,
[01:41:47.160 --> 01:41:54.160]  it stands as the truth unless it is rebutted or disproved. So if I have an
[01:41:54.160 --> 01:42:02.160]  Affidavit, I say I am sovereign, and I don't need a concealed carry permit. I
[01:42:02.160 --> 01:42:07.160]  don't need a driver's license. I am not subject to the jurisdiction of Congress.
[01:42:07.160 --> 01:42:12.160]  All of my rights are individual rights. They are unalienable rights, and, you
[01:42:12.160 --> 01:42:18.160]  know, basically the government could go pound sand. That stands as true unless
[01:42:18.160 --> 01:42:23.160]  the government can prove otherwise. Well, how is the government going to prove
[01:42:23.160 --> 01:42:31.160]  after 234 years of history that they own my body, they make the decisions for me,
[01:42:31.160 --> 01:42:40.160]  and that I am subject to their jurisdiction? I don't think they can do it.
[01:42:40.160 --> 01:42:44.160]  They might be able to generate some sort of paperwork, but they're never going
[01:42:44.160 --> 01:42:49.160]  to make me believe it.
[01:42:49.160 --> 01:42:55.160]  They'll certainly want to try. Now, in my particular case, I am taking what I
[01:42:55.160 --> 01:43:02.160]  did originally create as an Affidavit form of judicial notice, and I am
[01:43:02.160 --> 01:43:08.160]  creating that as a tort letter. So from now on, the only thing an officer will
[01:43:08.160 --> 01:43:13.160]  get from me is a tort letter. That will be my identification. I'm the guy that's
[01:43:13.160 --> 01:43:18.160]  suing you and the city you work for. That's who I am.
[01:43:18.160 --> 01:43:19.160]  I like it.
[01:43:19.160 --> 01:43:20.160]  I like that.
[01:43:20.160 --> 01:43:23.160]  So take this tort letter, give it to whoever you work for, and make sure they
[01:43:23.160 --> 01:43:27.160]  give it to whoever they work for. And I don't want to hear from you again until
[01:43:27.160 --> 01:43:31.160]  we're both in court on my side of the fence.
[01:43:31.160 --> 01:43:36.160]  I like it. That's the subtle approach.
[01:43:36.160 --> 01:43:38.160]  That's me in spades right there.
[01:43:38.160 --> 01:43:42.160]  All right, folks, we've got one more segment here with Michael Bannerich and
[01:43:42.160 --> 01:43:47.160]  Eddie and myself. So we've got an open phone board right now. Callers, if you
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[01:45:08.160 --> 01:45:22.160]  Hello. Oh, man, you're in jail. You got broken? Oh, man, I'm broken.
[01:45:22.160 --> 01:45:31.160]  Some things in this world I will never understand. Some things I realize fully.
[01:45:31.160 --> 01:45:39.160]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman. Somebody's gonna police the bully.
[01:45:39.160 --> 01:45:46.160]  There's always a room at the top of the hill. I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely
[01:45:46.160 --> 01:45:53.160]  left too. They're wishing it was more than I position the bill. They know that if they
[01:45:53.160 --> 01:46:01.160]  don't do it, somebody will. Some things in this world I will never understand. Some things
[01:46:01.160 --> 01:46:13.160]  I realize fully. Somebody's gonna police that policeman. Somebody's gonna police the bully.
[01:46:13.160 --> 01:46:23.160]  I know they will. Yeah, they're gonna put the bill. Cause I don't see so much in God's
[01:46:23.160 --> 01:46:51.160]  eyes. I know they will never fail to tip back the scale. I know they will never fail to tip back the scale.
[01:46:51.160 --> 01:46:57.160]  All right. We are back in the final segment with our very good friend, Michael Badneric.
[01:46:57.160 --> 01:47:03.160]  We're taking your calls. And I just wanted to follow up on what we were discussing before
[01:47:03.160 --> 01:47:09.160]  the break concerning these traffic laws and these affidavits. One thing that's really
[01:47:09.160 --> 01:47:16.160]  impressed me in my study of these traffic laws with Randy and Eddie is that actually
[01:47:16.160 --> 01:47:25.160]  the law itself, the statute is written very well. The legislature was very correct and
[01:47:25.160 --> 01:47:32.160]  they were very careful so as not to infringe on our right to travel. The whole entire
[01:47:32.160 --> 01:47:39.160]  traffic code, every single bit of it is all geared towards regulating commerce on the
[01:47:39.160 --> 01:47:45.160]  roadways. It's just that the application of it is incorrect. They're applying it to
[01:47:45.160 --> 01:47:51.160]  travelers instead of applying it to commercial drivers. And so that's why I've taken a lot
[01:47:51.160 --> 01:47:57.160]  of hope and put a lot of stock in these statutory remedies because the law is actually
[01:47:57.160 --> 01:48:04.160]  written very well. It's written very much in accordance with the constitution and to
[01:48:04.160 --> 01:48:09.160]  protect our rights. And we've got to- Can I interject on that for a second, Badner?
[01:48:09.160 --> 01:48:16.160]  Sure. Go ahead, Eddie. The thing that I find extremely asinine is you take those same
[01:48:16.160 --> 01:48:23.160]  statutes and you take them before a member of the legislature who is on the committee
[01:48:23.160 --> 01:48:30.160]  that put that statute in place, ask him what that statute means and he'll tell you,
[01:48:30.160 --> 01:48:37.160]  I don't know. What do the courts say it means? Well, now wait a minute. The courts
[01:48:37.160 --> 01:48:43.160]  don't get to say what it means unless you wrote it in such a way that it's unclear.
[01:48:43.160 --> 01:48:48.160]  So what are you telling me, that you wrote a bad statute so bad in fact that you don't
[01:48:48.160 --> 01:48:54.160]  even know what was in it when you passed it or that it's so convoluted that only a judge
[01:48:54.160 --> 01:48:59.160]  could figure it out? In which case, how do you expect the common man to have the
[01:48:59.160 --> 01:49:05.160]  knowledge to understand and abide by the allegedly imposed duty when you haven't made
[01:49:05.160 --> 01:49:12.160]  it clear to him what it is? And they'll look at you like you got three heads because
[01:49:12.160 --> 01:49:16.160]  they just can't understand why someone would question their ability to write a law
[01:49:16.160 --> 01:49:25.160]  they don't understand. I find it, you know, just, well, stupid is the only word that
[01:49:25.160 --> 01:49:31.160]  comes to mind. If you want to sit in the legislature and write a statute, then in my
[01:49:31.160 --> 01:49:35.160]  opinion, you ought to know what it is you're writing. And if you don't, then why are you
[01:49:35.160 --> 01:49:40.160]  there? I'm sorry, Deborah, I didn't run through to you.
[01:49:40.160 --> 01:49:46.160]  No, no, you didn't know. That's very, very well said. I mean, somebody knew what they
[01:49:46.160 --> 01:49:51.160]  were doing when they wrote the Texas Transportation Code, though, because it's pretty clear,
[01:49:51.160 --> 01:49:56.160]  you know, that it's all about commerce. So I just wanted to make that comment on that.
[01:49:56.160 --> 01:50:03.160]  And we're about to go to your calls. But first, I wanted to ask Michael concerning
[01:50:03.160 --> 01:50:11.160]  this issue of Barry Sartaro occupying the seat of the president right now. And the fact
[01:50:11.160 --> 01:50:18.160]  that not only was he not born in this country, but he was actually adopted in another country
[01:50:18.160 --> 01:50:24.160]  and he's an illegal alien. And it appears that there's a constitutional crisis here.
[01:50:24.160 --> 01:50:31.160]  And by the way, the Supreme Court is going to be hearing arguments on this case coming
[01:50:31.160 --> 01:50:36.160]  up. It hasn't hit the mainstream media. They're trying to keep it quiet. But the case concerning
[01:50:36.160 --> 01:50:41.160]  his eligibility to be president has reached the Supreme Court and they have agreed to
[01:50:41.160 --> 01:50:48.160]  hear the case. And my question for Michael concerning the Constitution is that, you know,
[01:50:48.160 --> 01:50:54.160]  I've seen in there, you know, provisions for impeachment and such. But impeachment is to
[01:50:54.160 --> 01:51:02.160]  for impeaching a legitimate president. I mean, this guy never took office. Okay. So what
[01:51:02.160 --> 01:51:11.160]  would be the provision to remove him? Because impeachment, to me, it doesn't seem like it's
[01:51:11.160 --> 01:51:22.160]  appropriate or applicable in this case. Well, you wouldn't have to impeach him. You would
[01:51:22.160 --> 01:51:32.160]  just nullify the election. And so then who would assume the office of the presidency?
[01:51:32.160 --> 01:51:38.160]  Because it's my understanding of the Constitution, the vice president would assume it? Right.
[01:51:38.160 --> 01:51:43.160]  And if the vice president is not there, then the speaker of the House. And I mean, I don't
[01:51:43.160 --> 01:51:49.160]  know the process any further than that. But, you know, they're like, I think they've got
[01:51:49.160 --> 01:51:56.160]  it spelled out, you know, 10 or 12 levels deep. I don't know why you would specify it
[01:51:56.160 --> 01:52:06.160]  that deep. But, you know, better to be prepared. But, you know, I mean, I'm not saying that
[01:52:06.160 --> 01:52:14.160]  it's not important. I think that we should have somebody in the White House that is a
[01:52:14.160 --> 01:52:26.160]  properly qualified candidate. But why argue about this? How about all of the other unconstitutional
[01:52:26.160 --> 01:52:32.160]  things that our government has been doing, you know, at least since 1913, when Congress
[01:52:32.160 --> 01:52:38.160]  pretended to pass the Federal Reserve Act. And since the Federal Reserve has been counterfeiting
[01:52:38.160 --> 01:52:46.160]  our money to the tune of trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars. It's like having
[01:52:46.160 --> 01:52:52.160]  the house burned down. You know, the walls and the doors are all laying in the ground.
[01:52:52.160 --> 01:52:58.160]  And somebody's worried about, oh, my gosh, the window in the front door is dirty. Look
[01:52:58.160 --> 01:53:04.160]  at this. It's a filthy window. Well, yeah. Yeah, it may be a filthy window. But look
[01:53:04.160 --> 01:53:10.160]  around. A dirty window is not the worst problem that you've got. You know, the house is burned
[01:53:10.160 --> 01:53:11.160]  down.
[01:53:11.160 --> 01:53:16.160]  Well, no, I totally agree, Michael. The only reason it's taken my interest is because he's
[01:53:16.160 --> 01:53:22.160]  the one that has filled all the cabinet positions and is filling up the courts with Goldman
[01:53:22.160 --> 01:53:30.160]  Sachs people. And so if we nullify him, then all of his appointees are nullified. And we
[01:53:30.160 --> 01:53:35.160]  get the bankers out of the government to a certain extent.
[01:53:35.160 --> 01:53:43.160]  You know, that's only true when 300 million Americans pull their head out of the sand
[01:53:43.160 --> 01:53:47.160]  or wherever it happens to be buried. They start to understand the difference between
[01:53:47.160 --> 01:53:52.160]  rights and privileges. They start to recognize that most of what the government does is
[01:53:52.160 --> 01:53:59.160]  unconstitutional, that most people currently in government are guilty of treason, and that,
[01:53:59.160 --> 01:54:06.160]  you know, Eddie and I can start sewing tar and feathers and make a couple hundred thousand
[01:54:06.160 --> 01:54:10.160]  dollars providing these supplies for people.
[01:54:10.160 --> 01:54:15.160]  You know, I'll even supply the guys to hold the rails and ride them out on.
[01:54:15.160 --> 01:54:20.160]  You know, we're going to go into business, Eddie, and we're going to be making a big,
[01:54:20.160 --> 01:54:23.160]  you know, big profit money hand over fist.
[01:54:23.160 --> 01:54:29.160]  Well, you've seen the advertisement on some of these shows where these people got hired
[01:54:29.160 --> 01:54:33.160]  to walk up and slap a pie in the face of a celebrity?
[01:54:33.160 --> 01:54:35.160]  I'm familiar with that, yeah.
[01:54:35.160 --> 01:54:41.160]  Yeah, let's try that concept with the tar and feather rail riding. People pay us to
[01:54:41.160 --> 01:54:45.160]  come up, grab their local politician, tar, feather them, and ride them out of town on a rail.
[01:54:45.160 --> 01:54:50.160]  Now, see, that's what I like about you. You are a businessman extraordinaire.
[01:54:50.160 --> 01:54:58.160]  You really know how to peak my curiosity. I'm in. I'm in. Let's do it.
[01:54:58.160 --> 01:55:01.160]  All right, well, let's take some calls. We only have a few minutes left.
[01:55:01.160 --> 01:55:04.160]  Tim from Texas, what is your question for Michael Bannerich?
[01:55:04.160 --> 01:55:08.160]  Well, good evening, Michael. It was good to see you up in Farmer's Branch in the Constitution
[01:55:08.160 --> 01:55:11.160]  class earlier this year in the first class up there.
[01:55:11.160 --> 01:55:13.160]  Oh, thanks, thanks.
[01:55:13.160 --> 01:55:16.160]  And I wanted to ask you a brief question and then get to my point.
[01:55:16.160 --> 01:55:21.160]  How were the U.S. senators elected prior to the 17th Amendment?
[01:55:21.160 --> 01:55:29.160]  The state legislatures elected them, and the purpose of having the state legislature
[01:55:29.160 --> 01:55:37.160]  select senators is so that senators would go to Washington and defend,
[01:55:37.160 --> 01:55:43.160]  and I hate to use the phrase, states' rights, because state governments don't have rights either,
[01:55:43.160 --> 01:55:48.160]  but their privileges do supersede federal privileges.
[01:55:48.160 --> 01:55:54.160]  It was a check on federal encroachment, and after the 17th Amendment,
[01:55:54.160 --> 01:56:02.160]  we now have a large House of Representatives and a small House of Representatives.
[01:56:02.160 --> 01:56:07.160]  Okay, so then why did they pass the 17th Amendment at all then?
[01:56:07.160 --> 01:56:12.160]  Has that not changed us from a republic to a democracy?
[01:56:12.160 --> 01:56:19.160]  It has, and the reason that they did it is because the Americans alive back in 1913
[01:56:19.160 --> 01:56:24.160]  were asleep at the switch. They didn't know the Constitution,
[01:56:24.160 --> 01:56:31.160]  and they allowed people to usurp our government, usurp control of the legislature,
[01:56:31.160 --> 01:56:36.160]  and, well, I don't know, I mean, I wasn't alive back then.
[01:56:36.160 --> 01:56:42.160]  You know, that was then, this is now. I had no control over the problem being created,
[01:56:42.160 --> 01:56:50.160]  but by God, I am going to fix it before I die, or I am going to die in the process.
[01:56:50.160 --> 01:56:54.160]  Okay, real quick, my last question is, is there any way we could get the 17th Amendment repealed
[01:56:54.160 --> 01:56:58.160]  and put it back to having the state elected back?
[01:56:58.160 --> 01:57:01.160]  It would declare it unconstitutional in its face.
[01:57:01.160 --> 01:57:05.160]  Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution says the government,
[01:57:05.160 --> 01:57:09.160]  the United States government will guarantee to every state in the Union
[01:57:09.160 --> 01:57:11.160]  a republican form of government.
[01:57:11.160 --> 01:57:19.160]  This makes it a democracy, which means that it's, you know, invalid on its face.
[01:57:19.160 --> 01:57:23.160]  But, I mean, I can say that it may be true, but if, you know,
[01:57:23.160 --> 01:57:30.160]  the American public doesn't stand up to support that, I mean, you know, you and I and Eddie,
[01:57:30.160 --> 01:57:36.160]  I mean, we could go to white, you know, into Washington, D.C. with our tar and feathers
[01:57:36.160 --> 01:57:40.160]  and our burning torches, but I don't think we're going to get very far.
[01:57:40.160 --> 01:57:41.160]  Right.
[01:57:41.160 --> 01:57:47.160]  You know, we will probably be put in jail or probably put into an insane asylum,
[01:57:47.160 --> 01:57:51.160]  you know, because we're crazy, you know, could be the right answer,
[01:57:51.160 --> 01:57:55.160]  but we need to have the American people stand up and back us up on this.
[01:57:55.160 --> 01:57:56.160]  Great.
[01:57:56.160 --> 01:57:57.160]  Well, thank you.
[01:57:57.160 --> 01:57:58.160]  I appreciate it.
[01:57:58.160 --> 01:57:59.160]  I'll let somebody else get on.
[01:57:59.160 --> 01:58:00.160]  Thanks, guys.
[01:58:00.160 --> 01:58:01.160]  Okay.
[01:58:01.160 --> 01:58:02.160]  We are at the end of the show.
[01:58:02.160 --> 01:58:03.160]  Thanks, Tim.
[01:58:03.160 --> 01:58:04.160]  All right, Michael, any closing comments?
[01:58:04.160 --> 01:58:07.160]  Please give out information for people to register for your class
[01:58:07.160 --> 01:58:10.160]  and for the convention this weekend.
[01:58:10.160 --> 01:58:13.160]  Constitutionpreservation.org.
[01:58:13.160 --> 01:58:18.160]  Go to the calendar or go to the class registration page.
[01:58:18.160 --> 01:58:23.160]  The class is going to be in Austin, Texas, Sunday, June 13th.
[01:58:23.160 --> 01:58:29.160]  You want to come down and visit with me at the Texas Libertarian State Convention.
[01:58:29.160 --> 01:58:37.160]  That will be on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday at the Holiday Inn Austin Midtown
[01:58:37.160 --> 01:58:39.160]  on Middle Fiskville Road.
[01:58:39.160 --> 01:58:43.160]  And you can get more information at lptexas.org.
[01:58:43.160 --> 01:58:48.160]  And Michael will be speaking Saturday night at 7 p.m.
[01:58:48.160 --> 01:58:49.160]  Thank you, Michael, for joining us tonight.
[01:58:49.160 --> 01:58:51.160]  We really appreciate it.
[01:58:51.160 --> 01:58:52.160]  Thank you.
[01:58:52.160 --> 01:58:53.160]  I have fun all the time.
[01:58:53.160 --> 01:58:54.160]  Okay.
[01:58:54.160 --> 01:58:56.160]  We'll be back tomorrow night.
[01:58:56.160 --> 01:58:58.160]  This is the rule of law.
[01:58:58.160 --> 01:59:13.160]  I'm like a stepping graze, I don't want my size, I'm dangerous, dangerous.
[01:59:13.160 --> 01:59:42.160]  I'm like a stepping graze, I don't want my size, I'm dangerous, dangerous.
[01:59:42.160 --> 01:59:43.160]  It's a dream, let's smooth.
[01:59:43.160 --> 01:59:52.160]  You better dream in the cool.