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[00:04.600 --> 00:09.920]  Barack Obama reassured Jewish leaders Thursday his administration's commitment to Israel
[00:09.920 --> 00:14.760]  remained quote, unshakable. In a letter to the Conference of Presidents of major American
[00:14.760 --> 00:21.760]  Jewish organizations, Obama wrote, our alliance with Israel serves our national security interests.
[00:23.240 --> 00:28.380]  Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard began three days of large-scale war games in the Gulf
[00:28.380 --> 00:34.000]  and Strait of Hormuz Thursday. Iran has said it would respond to any attack by targeting
[00:34.000 --> 00:39.200]  U.S. interests in the region and Israel, as well as closing the Strait of Hormuz. About
[00:39.200 --> 00:43.200]  40 percent of the world's oil passes through the Gulf.
[00:43.200 --> 00:49.120]  South Korea's military believes a torpedo fired from a North Korean submarine sank its
[00:49.120 --> 00:54.960]  Navy ship last month based on intelligence gathered jointly with the U.S. The Yonhap
[00:54.960 --> 01:00.480]  News Report appears to be the clearest sign yet that Seoul blames Pyongyang for one of
[01:00.480 --> 01:04.160]  the deadliest incidents between the rivals since the end of the Korean War.
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[01:08.400 --> 01:13.520]  Barack Obama called on Wall Street and industry lobbyists Thursday to quote, join us instead
[01:13.520 --> 01:18.880]  of fighting us, as Congress prepares to create new regulations to reign in the financial
[01:18.880 --> 01:24.640]  industry. Obama said he believes in free markets, but that quote, a free market was never meant
[01:24.640 --> 01:29.560]  to be a free license to take whatever you can get, however you can get it.
[01:29.560 --> 01:34.360]  The President pointed out quote, some on Wall Street forgot that behind every dollar traded
[01:34.360 --> 01:39.720]  or leveraged, there is a family looking to buy a house, pay for an education, open a
[01:39.720 --> 01:46.280]  business or save for retirement. What happens here has real consequences across our country.
[01:46.280 --> 01:51.640]  Obama went on quote, I'm here because I believe that these reforms are in the end, not only
[01:51.640 --> 01:56.240]  in the best interest of our country, but in the best interest of our financial sector.
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[02:00.320 --> 02:04.600]  The House of Representatives in a stunning reversal will not consider whether to give
[02:04.600 --> 02:09.520]  the District of Columbia full voting rights in Congress. The House had been expected to
[02:09.520 --> 02:14.800]  begin a historic debate on whether Washington would get a voting member of Congress. Currently
[02:14.800 --> 02:20.080]  the city is represented by delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton who can vote in committees but
[02:20.080 --> 02:25.280]  not on the floor. Liberals objected to a deal that would have attached a provision rolling
[02:25.280 --> 02:30.480]  back the city's tough curbs on gun ownership. Others were wary of a deal that would have
[02:30.480 --> 02:36.600]  also created another House seat for Utah, one of the country's most Republican states.
[02:36.600 --> 02:42.320]  Washington has a population of 600,000 that is nearly 55% African American and is heavily
[02:42.320 --> 02:48.080]  democratic. Washington residents have long complained of unequal treatment by Congress
[02:48.080 --> 02:55.080]  which has power over district affairs even though it is governed by a mayor at city council.
[03:19.080 --> 03:24.080]  The House of Representatives in a stunning reversal will not consider whether to give
[03:24.080 --> 03:29.080]  the District of Columbia full voting rights in Congress. The House has been expected to
[03:29.080 --> 03:34.080]  begin a historic debate on whether to give the District of Columbia full voting rights
[03:34.080 --> 03:49.080]  in Congress.
[04:04.080 --> 04:11.080]  The House of Representatives in a stunning reversal will not consider whether to give
[04:11.080 --> 04:18.080]  the District of Columbia full voting rights in Congress. The House has been expected to
[04:18.080 --> 04:25.080]  begin a historic debate on whether to give the District of Columbia full voting rights in
[04:25.080 --> 04:26.080]  Congress.
[04:26.080 --> 04:36.080]  The House has been expected to begin a historic debate on whether to give the District of
[04:36.080 --> 04:46.080]  Columbia full voting rights in Congress. The House has been expected to begin a historic
[04:46.080 --> 04:53.080]  debate on whether to give the District of Columbia full voting rights in Congress.
[04:53.080 --> 05:02.080]  These bad boys, what are you going to do when we come for you? This is the rule of law.
[05:02.080 --> 05:09.080]  Randy Kelton and Eddie Craig and of course yours truly Deborah Stevens. It is Thursday
[05:09.080 --> 05:19.080]  night, April 22nd and tonight Eddie has some material that he wants to present concerning
[05:19.080 --> 05:23.080]  this proposed 28th Amendment that has been circulating around the Internet and why it
[05:23.080 --> 05:26.080]  is a bad idea. Go ahead, Eddie.
[05:26.080 --> 05:31.080]  Okay, this has been emailed to me numerous times by several people over the last few
[05:31.080 --> 05:35.080]  months and I know we talked about a proposed amendment that I put in place for the Texas
[05:35.080 --> 05:40.080]  Constitution, but this is something a little different and I am going to explain why.
[05:40.080 --> 05:43.080]  This is what the language is of what they put. It is very short and simple. It is not
[05:43.080 --> 05:48.080]  really thought out as a full amendment. It is just a proposal about what they would like
[05:48.080 --> 05:54.080]  it to say and it reads thusly, Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of
[05:54.080 --> 06:00.080]  the United States that does not apply equally to the senators and or representatives and
[06:00.080 --> 06:05.080]  Congress shall make no law that applies to the senators and or representatives that does
[06:05.080 --> 06:09.080]  not apply equally to the citizens of the United States.
[06:09.080 --> 06:15.080]  Now, for those of you in the know, you have noticed there are some serious errors with
[06:15.080 --> 06:21.080]  the language of that statement and the reason for the serious errors is the use of the
[06:21.080 --> 06:25.080]  term citizens of the United States.
[06:25.080 --> 06:31.080]  Now, some of you are also possibly familiar with an email that goes around from a
[06:31.080 --> 06:35.080]  publication, online publication called News with Views.
[06:35.080 --> 06:41.080]  Now, News with Views is part of the Patriot Network, so to speak. They publish articles
[06:41.080 --> 06:48.080]  from lots of different Patriot movement folks, all of which are discussionary and
[06:48.080 --> 06:52.080]  observatory or however you would like to describe it and one of the people I like to
[06:52.080 --> 06:56.080]  read is a man that is called by the name of Frosty Woolrich.
[06:56.080 --> 07:01.080]  Now, he writes very good articles but the last one that he wrote, which I sent out an
[07:01.080 --> 07:10.080]  email to several people on, he is talking about all of these American companies that
[07:10.080 --> 07:16.080]  are hiring illegal aliens and hurting the American economy and committing treason by
[07:16.080 --> 07:19.080]  doing so basically and so on and so forth.
[07:19.080 --> 07:24.080]  Well, in this article, he continuously refers to these American business owners as
[07:24.080 --> 07:28.080]  U.S. citizens that are violating the Constitution.
[07:28.080 --> 07:33.080]  That kind of got my neck hairs up, not in a bad way as far as animosity but just in
[07:33.080 --> 07:38.080]  the way it usually does in the fact that we have what I call the new media, which is
[07:38.080 --> 07:44.080]  the Internet folks that are trying to spread the truth versus the old media, which is
[07:44.080 --> 07:49.080]  the one that we know today where no information is given out without a spin.
[07:49.080 --> 07:55.080]  So my email was for the purpose of clarifying that in this new media, we need to
[07:55.080 --> 08:00.080]  ensure that every single thing we put out is as accurate as possible.
[08:00.080 --> 08:06.080]  No spin, no misrepresentation, no misapplication of terms and phrases.
[08:06.080 --> 08:11.080]  Part of the reason I believe we've gotten to the state we are is because everybody
[08:11.080 --> 08:16.080]  throws around all these phrases about, well, we're this, we're a democracy, we're
[08:16.080 --> 08:20.080]  a democratic republic, we're United States citizens.
[08:20.080 --> 08:22.080]  None of those are true.
[08:22.080 --> 08:24.080]  All of those are misnomers.
[08:24.080 --> 08:26.080]  All of them are highly inaccurate.
[08:26.080 --> 08:27.080]  Okay?
[08:27.080 --> 08:32.080]  The email that I sent back to him basically goes through step by step and explains why
[08:32.080 --> 08:38.080]  the people of the several states are not United States citizens or citizens of the
[08:38.080 --> 08:40.080]  United States.
[08:40.080 --> 08:45.080]  I've even thrown in a ton of court cases that says very clearly that to be a
[08:45.080 --> 08:52.080]  citizen of the several states does not inherently mean or even require that you
[08:52.080 --> 08:58.080]  be a citizen of the United States and that in the strictest terms, there is no
[08:58.080 --> 09:03.080]  such thing as a citizen of the United States because the federal government was
[09:03.080 --> 09:09.080]  not given any power or authority to create citizens.
[09:09.080 --> 09:14.080]  However, when the 14th Amendment was passed, that is essentially what Congress
[09:14.080 --> 09:16.080]  attempted to do.
[09:16.080 --> 09:22.080]  They created a second-class citizen in the form of a person that is directly
[09:22.080 --> 09:29.080]  protected and granted civil rights under the 14th Amendment and called those
[09:29.080 --> 09:34.080]  persons citizens of the United States or United States citizens.
[09:34.080 --> 09:36.080]  Okay?
[09:36.080 --> 09:40.080]  But I've got court case after court case that I cited in this email that makes it
[09:40.080 --> 09:44.080]  very clear there really is no such thing.
[09:44.080 --> 09:49.080]  So I took that article and I put it on according to the way this amendment was
[09:49.080 --> 09:53.080]  worded and sent to me and then I directly wrote my friend back and this is what
[09:53.080 --> 09:59.080]  I'd like to read to you as my reply back to him verbatim.
[09:59.080 --> 10:03.080]  Dennis, this desire for a 28th Amendment thing, especially one worded as
[10:03.080 --> 10:08.080]  improperly as this one is, is a bad idea for folks to pursue and here is why.
[10:08.080 --> 10:12.080]  One, if the false assumption of the powers and authority of Congress that
[10:12.080 --> 10:17.080]  currently exist is allowed to remain intact, then the America we all want is
[10:17.080 --> 10:19.080]  gone forever.
[10:19.080 --> 10:23.080]  So one of the ways to ensure that does not happen is to tear down the false
[10:23.080 --> 10:27.080]  representation of Congressional and state governmental authority and replace
[10:27.080 --> 10:31.080]  them with the truth of how they are supposed to work as well as what either of
[10:31.080 --> 10:34.080]  them can and cannot do.
[10:34.080 --> 10:39.080]  Number two, Congress does not have direct lawmaking powers and authority within
[10:39.080 --> 10:41.080]  the several states of the Union.
[10:41.080 --> 10:45.080]  Therefore, no act of Congress may be enacted so as to directly affect the
[10:45.080 --> 10:47.080]  people of the several states of the Union.
[10:47.080 --> 10:52.080]  It is that simple and therefore such an amendment is unnecessary.
[10:52.080 --> 10:56.080]  It is the individual state governments that have betrayed the trust of the
[10:56.080 --> 11:01.080]  people of each individual republic, nation, state, and I'm breaking for a
[11:01.080 --> 11:03.080]  second, that's what we are.
[11:03.080 --> 11:09.080]  The Constitution sets up each state as its own separate sovereign republic.
[11:09.080 --> 11:12.080]  We are not under the United States government.
[11:12.080 --> 11:15.080]  We are equal and separate.
[11:15.080 --> 11:16.080]  Okay?
[11:16.080 --> 11:20.080]  And this email will go into that.
[11:20.080 --> 11:25.080]  Let's see, not simply the federal government as being one that has betrayed
[11:25.080 --> 11:26.080]  the trust.
[11:26.080 --> 11:30.080]  For lack of a better way to put it, let's think of it like this.
[11:30.080 --> 11:34.080]  Each republic state of the Union represents one of the essential chains of
[11:34.080 --> 11:39.080]  the Constitution which Thomas Jefferson spoke, chains that are designed to
[11:39.080 --> 11:45.080]  bind the federal government down to the limits of its authority granted by
[11:45.080 --> 11:46.080]  the people.
[11:46.080 --> 11:50.080]  For the sake of clarity in this explanation, I will here and after refer to
[11:50.080 --> 11:53.080]  the federal government as the beast.
[11:53.080 --> 11:57.080]  When a chain is used to bind something down, such as a load on a trailer, for
[11:57.080 --> 12:01.080]  instance, the chain is usually kept taut or else the thing or things bound
[12:01.080 --> 12:03.080]  may shift around.
[12:03.080 --> 12:07.080]  The same principle applies to the states acting as chains upon the beast.
[12:07.080 --> 12:12.080]  When one or more of these chains allows itself to become slack, the beast has
[12:12.080 --> 12:14.080]  more freedom of movement.
[12:14.080 --> 12:18.080]  With more movement, there comes within the beast's ability a greater reach.
[12:18.080 --> 12:20.080]  It is able to move around.
[12:20.080 --> 12:24.080]  Consequently, the more the beast can move around, the more it can reach in a
[12:24.080 --> 12:28.080]  given direction, even to places that it could never reach before.
[12:28.080 --> 12:33.080]  And just like any beast that is confined or restrained, this beast seeks to
[12:33.080 --> 12:35.080]  break free of its bonds and to escape.
[12:35.080 --> 12:39.080]  And once escaped, it will wreak havoc on those that dared imprison it.
[12:39.080 --> 12:45.080]  And it will continue to do so until it is either recaptured or destroyed or it
[12:45.080 --> 12:49.080]  manages to destroy all those that seek to bind or imprison it.
[12:49.080 --> 12:52.080]  This beast is powerful and vicious.
[12:52.080 --> 12:53.080]  It is intelligent.
[12:53.080 --> 12:54.080]  It is cunning.
[12:54.080 --> 12:55.080]  And it is devious.
[12:55.080 --> 12:59.080]  And it is always seeking the moment when its chains finally become slack
[12:59.080 --> 13:03.080]  enough, allowing it enough movement to finally tear free from them.
[13:03.080 --> 13:06.080]  Such is the current mindset of the federal government.
[13:06.080 --> 13:10.080]  The states have given it too much slack and allowed it to run back and forth
[13:10.080 --> 13:14.080]  against its chains until the attachment points of the chains have been
[13:14.080 --> 13:15.080]  weakened or torn loose.
[13:15.080 --> 13:19.080]  The only consolation is that all of the chains are not yet broken.
[13:19.080 --> 13:22.080]  So the beast is still not entirely free.
[13:22.080 --> 13:25.080]  But it is dangerously close to being so.
[13:25.080 --> 13:29.080]  Number three, sure, the federal government wants to do things that are
[13:29.080 --> 13:33.080]  unconstitutional and totally unlawful and illegal.
[13:33.080 --> 13:37.080]  But if the individual republics that we call states stood upon both the
[13:37.080 --> 13:42.080]  constitution of the United States and their respective constitutions, they
[13:42.080 --> 13:46.080]  would tell the federal government, no, we do not accept your attempt to
[13:46.080 --> 13:50.080]  take an unconstitutional power and authority that the people never gave you
[13:50.080 --> 13:54.080]  and bind it down with the chains of constitutional authority.
[13:54.080 --> 13:57.080]  The people of the several states of the union betrayed themselves thinking
[13:57.080 --> 14:01.080]  that either government has the authority to do the things that they are
[14:01.080 --> 14:03.080]  currently trying to foist upon us.
[14:03.080 --> 14:05.080]  But they do not.
[14:05.080 --> 14:08.080]  If the people of the several states had demanded and forced their states'
[14:08.080 --> 14:13.080]  legislative, executive, and judicial branches to do their solemn duty to the
[14:13.080 --> 14:17.080]  people and to each other, we would not be having to tell the federal
[14:17.080 --> 14:23.080]  government no on anything like the New Deal, the IRS, federal bailouts,
[14:23.080 --> 14:28.080]  Obamacare, aka Obama death, or the numerous other unconstitutional and
[14:28.080 --> 14:33.080]  illegal acts done in the past 120 years because they would never have gotten
[14:33.080 --> 14:35.080]  to where they are today.
[14:35.080 --> 14:39.080]  What needs to change is the people's attitude and their involvement in every
[14:39.080 --> 14:41.080]  facet of local and state government.
[14:41.080 --> 14:46.080]  For the states have the unified and full authority to say, no, we are not
[14:46.080 --> 14:51.080]  just going to do so and we are not going to allow you to do so either, not
[14:51.080 --> 14:52.080]  in our state.
[14:52.080 --> 14:56.080]  But the states are not doing so because of the federal bribes and payoffs
[14:56.080 --> 15:00.080]  that every state accepts in the form of federal funding.
[15:00.080 --> 15:04.080]  The states do not do so because just like the federal government, they have
[15:04.080 --> 15:08.080]  come to expect that they have the power and authority to control and rule over
[15:08.080 --> 15:12.080]  the people instead of to serve the people on the people's own terms instead
[15:12.080 --> 15:14.080]  of theirs.
[15:14.080 --> 15:19.080]  Until we the people take back control of our local government, we do not have
[15:19.080 --> 15:24.080]  any chance or any power to put a stop to the America destroying fascism,
[15:24.080 --> 15:29.080]  socialism, and communism emanating from Washington, D.C.
[15:29.080 --> 15:33.080]  And as we should be aware, D.C. is short for don't care.
[15:33.080 --> 15:36.080]  So we the people have to make them care.
[15:36.080 --> 15:40.080]  And we do that by retaking control of the local government, first and
[15:40.080 --> 15:41.080]  foremost.
[15:41.080 --> 15:44.080]  We simply need to pull the chains taut again.
[15:44.080 --> 15:48.080]  Then we need to fix the attachment points to ensure that they are once
[15:48.080 --> 15:49.080]  again strong.
[15:49.080 --> 15:54.080]  We may even need to add a few more chains upon the chains as well just for
[15:54.080 --> 15:56.080]  added future security.
[15:56.080 --> 16:02.080]  And those chains upon chains is we need to make more stringent controls upon
[16:02.080 --> 16:08.080]  our local government with our state constitution to give the power fully into
[16:08.080 --> 16:10.080]  the hands of the people to control them.
[16:10.080 --> 16:17.080]  So that's my synopsis over what this amendment would achieve or not achieve
[16:17.080 --> 16:20.080]  and why we need to be doing it differently.
[16:20.080 --> 16:22.080]  Now, those are just my thoughts and suggestions.
[16:22.080 --> 16:26.080]  I would love to hear what the folks out there are, good, bad, or ugly.
[16:26.080 --> 16:30.080]  And whatever comment and Deborah Randi have on this I would love to hear as
[16:30.080 --> 16:31.080]  well.
[16:31.080 --> 16:35.080]  I think this would make a good discussionary topic simply because these
[16:35.080 --> 16:39.080]  are the things that I see getting in the way of controlling both sets of
[16:39.080 --> 16:41.080]  government, state and federal.
[16:41.080 --> 16:44.080]  And it's our fault.
[16:44.080 --> 16:46.080]  All right, folks, that's the break music.
[16:46.080 --> 16:50.080]  I will shut up after we get back and let you folks call in or if Randi and
[16:50.080 --> 16:53.080]  Deborah's got something they want to put out there, then we'll go from there.
[16:53.080 --> 16:57.080]  This is Eddie Craig, Randi Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio, and
[16:57.080 --> 17:01.080]  we'll be right back after the break.
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[18:31.080 --> 18:38.080]  Okay, we're back on the other side.
[18:38.080 --> 18:42.080]  And Randy, you said you had some comments.
[18:42.080 --> 18:53.080]  Yes, this sort of goes to my minimalist perspective.
[18:53.080 --> 19:00.080]  I don't think we need any more law, especially not a constitutional amendment.
[19:00.080 --> 19:06.080]  The problems that we experience exist from no lack of law.
[19:06.080 --> 19:11.080]  They simply exist from lack of will to enforce law.
[19:11.080 --> 19:17.080]  If we're not going to enforce the laws we already have, what is the point?
[19:17.080 --> 19:26.080]  And when we start creating major constitutional amendments, they have a way
[19:26.080 --> 19:31.080]  of creating problems we had not anticipated.
[19:31.080 --> 19:38.080]  And if you think that the bad guys won't find a way to use this one against us,
[19:38.080 --> 19:43.080]  then go back and look at the 14th Amendment again.
[19:43.080 --> 19:49.080]  It seems that the more laws we pass that are touted to help us wind up
[19:49.080 --> 19:52.080]  binding us even more.
[19:52.080 --> 20:00.080]  So I'm saying instead of trying to promote new law and add to the corpus
[20:00.080 --> 20:07.080]  juris that we have, that it's time we stood up and enforce the ones we've got.
[20:07.080 --> 20:10.080]  And that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
[20:10.080 --> 20:14.080]  Yeah, that reminds me of the famous Ronald Reagan quote,
[20:14.080 --> 20:17.080]  the nine most terrifying words in the English language,
[20:17.080 --> 20:22.080]  I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
[20:22.080 --> 20:23.080]  Precisely.
[20:23.080 --> 20:28.080]  It's time we stood up and started taking them to task.
[20:28.080 --> 20:34.080]  I went to traffic court today and worked over a judge pretty good.
[20:34.080 --> 20:38.080]  I have to give him credit, he handled it well.
[20:38.080 --> 20:41.080]  Tried to get him to take some criminal complaints.
[20:41.080 --> 20:46.080]  And oh, he was very helpful, telling me all of the places I could go.
[20:46.080 --> 20:55.080]  And I kept telling him, no, this is where I'm at, this is your duty, do it.
[20:55.080 --> 21:00.080]  And he didn't do it, but I told him that your failure to perform your duty
[21:00.080 --> 21:06.080]  as a magistrate, I consider to be an act that denies me and my right to
[21:06.080 --> 21:10.080]  petition the court for redress of grievance.
[21:10.080 --> 21:14.080]  The last thing I told him when I was leaving, I said,
[21:14.080 --> 21:17.080]  call this the Tar Baby Syndrome.
[21:17.080 --> 21:20.080]  Everybody who touches it sticks to it.
[21:20.080 --> 21:28.080]  You just stuck to it and made a dramatic exit.
[21:28.080 --> 21:32.080]  We have to do that, we have to take them on.
[21:32.080 --> 21:40.080]  We have to give them reason to believe that their personal comfort is at risk.
[21:40.080 --> 21:45.080]  Their job security and even their liberty.
[21:45.080 --> 21:50.080]  If we don't do it, then who?
[21:50.080 --> 21:53.080]  Precisely.
[21:53.080 --> 21:55.080]  Debra, what's your thoughts?
[21:55.080 --> 22:03.080]  Well, I tend to agree with Randy on this, that I don't think we need any more laws,
[22:03.080 --> 22:07.080]  I don't think we need any more constitutional amendments.
[22:07.080 --> 22:10.080]  In fact, I'd be happy with taking some of them all.
[22:10.080 --> 22:11.080]  Exactly.
[22:11.080 --> 22:15.080]  We need to repeal, we need to decentralize and repeal,
[22:15.080 --> 22:21.080]  not just keep adding more laws and more constitutional amendments.
[22:21.080 --> 22:28.080]  I mean, how about we try actually following what we have?
[22:28.080 --> 22:30.080]  Why don't we try enforcing the law that we have
[22:30.080 --> 22:34.080]  and actually following the constitution we have for a while first?
[22:34.080 --> 22:38.080]  If that don't work out, well then we'll make some changes after that.
[22:38.080 --> 22:42.080]  But yeah, being from a libertarian background that I'm from,
[22:42.080 --> 22:45.080]  I say decentralize and repeal as much as possible,
[22:45.080 --> 22:55.080]  not keep embroiling ourselves in more and more and more legislation and amendments.
[22:55.080 --> 23:00.080]  So that's my story.
[23:00.080 --> 23:04.080]  That's all I've actually got to present on it, so if there's any callers out there
[23:04.080 --> 23:08.080]  or if you guys have something you wanted to bring up.
[23:08.080 --> 23:13.080]  We do have some callers on the board.
[23:13.080 --> 23:14.080]  Should we go to the calls?
[23:14.080 --> 23:16.080]  Yeah, let's go to the call board.
[23:16.080 --> 23:19.080]  Okay, we're going to go first to Chris in Texas.
[23:19.080 --> 23:20.080]  Chris, thanks for calling in.
[23:20.080 --> 23:21.080]  What's on your mind tonight?
[23:21.080 --> 23:23.080]  Do you have any comments on what we were just discussing?
[23:23.080 --> 23:25.080]  Yeah, thank you for taking my call.
[23:25.080 --> 23:28.080]  I was going to be the guy, I guess I'm going to have to shift the gears here.
[23:28.080 --> 23:29.080]  That's okay.
[23:29.080 --> 23:32.080]  Before I do, I have some comments about that because you bring up
[23:32.080 --> 23:37.080]  an issue that I believe is essential in restoring our republic.
[23:37.080 --> 23:40.080]  I just want to remind the listeners of the Scalia decision
[23:40.080 --> 23:44.080]  that said that the states had every obligation to protect our rights
[23:44.080 --> 23:46.080]  as the federal government does.
[23:46.080 --> 23:48.080]  So when the federal government oversteps its bounds,
[23:48.080 --> 23:51.080]  it's the states that have to get in the way of that happening.
[23:51.080 --> 23:54.080]  And then I also write stories for the Austin Free Press,
[23:54.080 --> 23:58.080]  so I did a story right after the Medina rally back in the day.
[23:58.080 --> 24:02.080]  I'd like to report that a majority of the patriots out there in our movement
[24:02.080 --> 24:07.080]  do feel that or do understand that it's going to have to be from the state level.
[24:07.080 --> 24:10.080]  The idea that you're going to get three-quarters of the country
[24:10.080 --> 24:12.080]  to go along with a constitutional amendment
[24:12.080 --> 24:16.080]  or you're going to actually reverse this Obamacare plan
[24:16.080 --> 24:21.080]  through getting a filibuster-proof Congress in 2012 or 2010,
[24:21.080 --> 24:25.080]  that's just not nearly as likely as one state finding the fortitude
[24:25.080 --> 24:28.080]  to step up against the federal government lawsuit.
[24:28.080 --> 24:30.080]  So I think Eddie's right.
[24:30.080 --> 24:32.080]  It's got to be the state's responsibility.
[24:32.080 --> 24:37.080]  The idea of a constitutional amendment is just not necessary.
[24:37.080 --> 24:40.080]  Still there?
[24:40.080 --> 24:47.080]  Now, to shift gears, if you get a parking ticket at Texas State University,
[24:47.080 --> 24:49.080]  you're automatically guilty.
[24:49.080 --> 24:53.080]  You have to pay the fine up front before you're even allowed to appeal.
[24:53.080 --> 24:58.080]  And my girlfriend got a ticket that now she's going to lose her parking privileges
[24:58.080 --> 25:00.080]  at the university.
[25:00.080 --> 25:04.080]  And I was kind of wondering, what can I do in the face of this?
[25:04.080 --> 25:08.080]  They've issued her a ticket improperly,
[25:08.080 --> 25:14.080]  and there's just no one I can turn to to even argue the case or discuss the case at all.
[25:14.080 --> 25:17.080]  Sue the school for issuing a bill of attainder.
[25:17.080 --> 25:18.080]  Say that again, I'm sorry?
[25:18.080 --> 25:21.080]  Sue the school for issuing a bill of attainder.
[25:21.080 --> 25:24.080]  Okay.
[25:24.080 --> 25:26.080]  Because you guys, when people call in,
[25:26.080 --> 25:31.080]  you guys sometimes list off a list of likely criminal charges that are going on
[25:31.080 --> 25:34.080]  when officers violate rights like this.
[25:34.080 --> 25:36.080]  I mean, this is just outright racketeering.
[25:36.080 --> 25:38.080]  These people are coming in, putting a ticket on your car.
[25:38.080 --> 25:41.080]  They don't even have to put their name on the ticket.
[25:41.080 --> 25:46.080]  Well, in this particular case, are the university police officers state officials
[25:46.080 --> 25:48.080]  or are they school officials?
[25:48.080 --> 25:53.080]  And if it's a state-funded school, are they all considered school officials?
[25:53.080 --> 25:54.080]  That's going to be the first thing.
[25:54.080 --> 25:55.080]  Right.
[25:55.080 --> 26:00.080]  If they're private, then there are several ways you can do it,
[26:00.080 --> 26:02.080]  but they all have to be done differently.
[26:02.080 --> 26:07.080]  In that case, criminal wouldn't apply unless you can show they're perpetrating fraud,
[26:07.080 --> 26:12.080]  and they would be if they're acting as a person with the power to arrest
[26:12.080 --> 26:16.080]  or seize property with state authority.
[26:16.080 --> 26:20.080]  They would be impersonating a public official if they're not actually state officers.
[26:20.080 --> 26:22.080]  Then you would have a criminal charge, I would think.
[26:22.080 --> 26:24.080]  Otherwise, it would have to be similar.
[26:24.080 --> 26:28.080]  You would agree or disagree, Randy?
[26:28.080 --> 26:34.080]  I agree, but I think the campus police are certified police officers.
[26:34.080 --> 26:35.080]  I believe so, too.
[26:35.080 --> 26:38.080]  I believe that's the impression that I'm getting as well.
[26:38.080 --> 26:46.080]  So since they're certified police officers, of all places, to ignore the law
[26:46.080 --> 26:53.080]  and act in this manner, the school should not be the one doing that.
[26:53.080 --> 26:58.080]  I have a problem that I raise a lot about our high schools,
[26:58.080 --> 27:05.080]  grade schools and high schools, that House Bill 72 had a lot of people
[27:05.080 --> 27:11.080]  remember that one that was touted as no social promotions,
[27:11.080 --> 27:14.080]  the grade shall reflect, demonstrate, and master your subject matter.
[27:14.080 --> 27:16.080]  But that was the second provision.
[27:16.080 --> 27:20.080]  The first provision was the school shall instill in the child
[27:20.080 --> 27:24.080]  a deep and abiding faith in and respect for the American foreign government.
[27:24.080 --> 27:28.080]  Well, they do this song and dance and rah rah rah
[27:28.080 --> 27:32.080]  and tell their kids what a great system of government we have
[27:32.080 --> 27:35.080]  and about all the rights that they have.
[27:35.080 --> 27:42.080]  But don't even think about trying to express one of those while you're in this school
[27:42.080 --> 27:47.080]  because the entire weight of the system will land right square on your head.
[27:47.080 --> 27:52.080]  We put our children through 12 years of that hypocrisy.
[27:52.080 --> 28:00.080]  Then when they get out, all of a sudden we expect some kind of giant metamorphosis
[28:00.080 --> 28:05.080]  that they won't look at the system with pride about all of the rights they have
[28:05.080 --> 28:11.080]  while knowing full well they better not even try to express one of them.
[28:11.080 --> 28:15.080]  So the school of all places should follow law.
[28:15.080 --> 28:25.080]  And I would suggest that if a school attempts to collect a fine without a fair adjudication,
[28:25.080 --> 28:30.080]  then file against the whoever claims power to collect the fee.
[28:30.080 --> 28:33.080]  And that's kind of where I was going.
[28:33.080 --> 28:39.080]  And with the appeals process, you have to pay the fee before you get the appeal,
[28:39.080 --> 28:42.080]  which is the first time they actually look to see if the ticket's even valid,
[28:42.080 --> 28:46.080]  and then it's deciding whether or not they want to give you your money back.
[28:46.080 --> 28:50.080]  Normally it wouldn't be a big deal, but on discharge specifically,
[28:50.080 --> 28:53.080]  if she's found guilty or if they don't give our money back,
[28:53.080 --> 28:56.080]  she also loses her parking privileges for an entire year.
[28:56.080 --> 28:58.080]  She goes to class at 6 o'clock in the morning,
[28:58.080 --> 29:01.080]  so she's going to be walking to campus in the dark.
[29:01.080 --> 29:04.080]  It's just unbelievable.
[29:04.080 --> 29:09.080]  Well, like I said, if it's a state school, okay,
[29:09.080 --> 29:13.080]  then they're acting with the power and authority of the state.
[29:13.080 --> 29:17.080]  If that's true, then they just hit her with a bill of attainder.
[29:17.080 --> 29:19.080]  And that is absolutely unconstitutional.
[29:19.080 --> 29:23.080]  It would be unconstitutional if a private organization was hitting her
[29:23.080 --> 29:29.080]  with a bill of attainder, in which case you still have a tort action.
[29:29.080 --> 29:30.080]  Exactly.
[29:30.080 --> 29:34.080]  And then, okay, the last set of questions about a nonrelated topic I'm with,
[29:34.080 --> 29:36.080]  we are change.
[29:36.080 --> 29:38.080]  That's the music, sorry.
[29:38.080 --> 29:39.080]  Okay, no, that's all right.
[29:39.080 --> 29:40.080]  Just hang on.
[29:40.080 --> 29:41.080]  We're about to go to break,
[29:41.080 --> 29:46.080]  so we'll pick this up on the other side if you want to hang on for just a minute.
[29:46.080 --> 29:50.080]  Okay, this is Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law Radio,
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[32:27.080 --> 32:33.080]  Your power, when you're gonna stop abuse
[32:33.080 --> 32:38.080]  Your power, when you're gonna stop abuse
[32:38.080 --> 32:44.080]  Your power, when you're gonna stop abuse
[32:44.080 --> 32:47.080]  Your power
[32:47.080 --> 32:52.080]  So please Mr. Michael, I teach officers not to abuse their power
[32:52.080 --> 32:58.080]  Then I request to the leaders and officers
[32:58.080 --> 33:03.080]  Tell them to uphold the law, or please don't abuse their power
[33:03.080 --> 33:09.080]  They beat and they beat and they cheat and they cheat and they lie every hour
[33:09.080 --> 33:14.080]  So Mr. Officer, please stop abusing your power
[33:14.080 --> 33:20.080]  You pull me over and tell me to silence this sir
[33:20.080 --> 33:25.080]  I need to speak to my lawyer, Mr. Officer
[33:25.080 --> 33:31.080]  Acting like you're the judge, you're finding me guilty sir
[33:31.080 --> 33:36.080]  So when you're gonna stop abuse, your power
[33:36.080 --> 33:42.080]  When you're gonna stop abuse, your power
[33:42.080 --> 33:47.080]  When you're gonna stop abuse, your power
[33:47.080 --> 33:50.080]  When you're gonna stop abuse
[33:50.080 --> 33:54.080]  Okay, we are back, the rule of law, and we are speaking with our callers.
[33:54.080 --> 33:58.080]  We've got Chris in Texas who had a couple more questions. Go ahead, Chris.
[33:58.080 --> 34:01.080]  Yeah, just real quick. I'm also with We Are Change Austin,
[34:01.080 --> 34:04.080]  and we were there when Karl Rove came to the University of Texas
[34:04.080 --> 34:08.080]  to try to sell his book and rewrite some history there.
[34:08.080 --> 34:11.080]  And I guess you may or may not know Aaron Dykes,
[34:11.080 --> 34:16.080]  and one of our own got arrested that night for getting, I guess, maybe even a little out of line.
[34:16.080 --> 34:19.080]  What I was wondering, and I'm a regular listener to the show,
[34:19.080 --> 34:21.080]  so I kind of know the processes to look for,
[34:21.080 --> 34:31.080]  is there anything special that you might look for in a free speech issue case like that?
[34:31.080 --> 34:32.080]  Randy?
[34:32.080 --> 34:36.080]  I'm thinking, I don't know enough about the case to be able to give a good assessment.
[34:36.080 --> 34:39.080]  Why don't you give a little bit of background, Chris?
[34:39.080 --> 34:43.080]  Yeah, unfortunately, I wasn't the guy who, I wasn't inside,
[34:43.080 --> 34:48.080]  I was outside Bullhorn the whole time, but apparently these guys, they were brought in.
[34:48.080 --> 34:53.080]  You're welcome to come on in and sit down and listen to Karl Rove talk for a little while,
[34:53.080 --> 34:56.080]  and then after it was over, he asked some questions,
[34:56.080 --> 35:03.080]  and a couple of people ended up yelling at him, calling him a war criminal and whatnot, and getting the drug off.
[35:03.080 --> 35:08.080]  A few of them got handcuffed and taken away and charged with disturbing a meeting.
[35:08.080 --> 35:18.080]  No, it was my understanding that the way this whole thing was run was that they would not take unscreened questions from the audience,
[35:18.080 --> 35:19.080]  and that was the whole deal.
[35:19.080 --> 35:25.080]  They wanted people to write down their questions, and then there were screeners to screen the questions,
[35:25.080 --> 35:33.080]  similar to the FCC public hearing that I attended on this broadband plan a few months ago,
[35:33.080 --> 35:41.080]  and so the only way that anybody could have a chance to ask any real questions was to just shout it out in the meeting.
[35:41.080 --> 35:43.080]  Is that correct? Am I understanding this correctly?
[35:43.080 --> 35:45.080]  That is exactly right.
[35:45.080 --> 35:52.080]  Okay, so now they want to charge your friend and Eric Dykes with what is the charge now?
[35:52.080 --> 35:56.080]  Disturbing a meeting, which falls under disorderly conduct.
[35:56.080 --> 36:05.080]  Disturbing a meeting on a campus, which was this area technically considered public property?
[36:05.080 --> 36:11.080]  Public university, public property. The meeting was not affiliated with the university whatsoever.
[36:11.080 --> 36:17.080]  It was part of the college Republicans who just simply got access to the ballroom because they're a student organization.
[36:17.080 --> 36:30.080]  Okay, if it was not a public meeting, if this was a private meeting by a private group, you don't have First Amendment rights in a private meeting.
[36:30.080 --> 36:31.080]  Right.
[36:31.080 --> 36:36.080]  So no, they don't have a leg to stand on.
[36:36.080 --> 36:37.080]  Yeah.
[36:37.080 --> 36:41.080]  Just be looking for the same type of violations that you would normally associate with an arrest.
[36:41.080 --> 36:48.080]  With an arrest, yeah. Yeah, the fact that they, I'm sure they didn't take him to a magistrate. They took him to jail first.
[36:48.080 --> 36:53.080]  Yeah, the same old song and dance, but yeah, that's kind of what I thought too.
[36:53.080 --> 36:58.080]  This isn't, you know, this wasn't a public hearing, okay?
[36:58.080 --> 37:03.080]  This wasn't, you know, they weren't restricting someone's access to the courts.
[37:03.080 --> 37:06.080]  They weren't restricting someone's access to the legislature.
[37:06.080 --> 37:11.080]  They weren't inhibiting freedom of speech on public property.
[37:11.080 --> 37:14.080]  This is a private meeting held by a private group.
[37:14.080 --> 37:16.080]  They can make whatever rules they want.
[37:16.080 --> 37:20.080]  Even though they may seem unfair to us, that's the way it is.
[37:20.080 --> 37:21.080]  It's their meeting.
[37:21.080 --> 37:22.080]  It's their deal.
[37:22.080 --> 37:24.080]  It's kind of like with us and the radio.
[37:24.080 --> 37:28.080]  I'm not going to let anybody just jump on the air and cuss us out or cause a problem.
[37:28.080 --> 37:29.080]  Exactly.
[37:29.080 --> 37:39.080]  We have the right to screen the calls and make sure that people aren't calling in from a cell phone on the side of the road that's all noisy, you know, and things like that.
[37:39.080 --> 37:49.080]  I mean, people don't really have quote unquote First Amendment rights here on this radio network or any other for that matter because it's private property.
[37:49.080 --> 37:51.080]  It's a private event.
[37:51.080 --> 37:53.080]  I'll let whoever on the air that I want.
[37:53.080 --> 38:01.080]  But however, we don't screen people for content, you know, because we do want to promote freedom of speech, but I have to draw the line in certain areas.
[38:01.080 --> 38:07.080]  I can't let people curse because we're going out on licensed FCC stations and I can't put the affiliates at risk.
[38:07.080 --> 38:13.080]  So, you know, you only get freedom of speech to a certain extent when you're dealing with private entities.
[38:13.080 --> 38:20.080]  Now, what about the situation where you invite the public in and then maybe like change the rules on a midstream?
[38:20.080 --> 38:24.080]  Still their event. They can do whatever they want.
[38:24.080 --> 38:31.080]  What would be the situation to leave to have to escalate between the difference between getting kicked out and being arrested?
[38:31.080 --> 38:38.080]  Well, when you're in a private meeting, you always have the option of leaving.
[38:38.080 --> 38:39.080]  Yeah.
[38:39.080 --> 38:42.080]  So that's really your only option.
[38:42.080 --> 38:49.080]  I mean, you wouldn't want a Catholic coming into the Baptist Church and reading them the riot act.
[38:49.080 --> 38:51.080]  It would be inappropriate.
[38:51.080 --> 39:04.080]  So for someone to go into that private meeting and disrupt the private meeting with their own agenda, they didn't pay for the accommodations.
[39:04.080 --> 39:05.080]  That's right.
[39:05.080 --> 39:11.080]  So we need to fight for our First Amendment rights.
[39:11.080 --> 39:12.080]  When they apply.
[39:12.080 --> 39:14.080]  Yeah, when they apply.
[39:14.080 --> 39:25.080]  If it was like a town hall meeting or something like that, if it was a public hearing officially put on by the government, then we may be looking at a different issue.
[39:25.080 --> 39:27.080]  But this was just a PR tour.
[39:27.080 --> 39:28.080]  Right.
[39:28.080 --> 39:33.080]  You know, so we really can't go that direction, unfortunately.
[39:33.080 --> 39:36.080]  Well, guys, thank you very much. I do appreciate the help.
[39:36.080 --> 39:40.080]  Okay, sure. Thanks, Chris.
[39:40.080 --> 39:44.080]  Okay, we're going to go now to Priscilla in Texas.
[39:44.080 --> 39:45.080]  Priscilla, thanks for calling in.
[39:45.080 --> 39:46.080]  What's on your mind tonight?
[39:46.080 --> 39:47.080]  All right.
[39:47.080 --> 39:57.080]  I have a question about an invalid Rule 11, a Rule 11 under the Texas Rule of Civil Procedure.
[39:57.080 --> 40:10.080]  If an attorney signs an invalid Rule 11, not complete, just one page, then it says that the parties have decided to settle, but they're yet working on the documents.
[40:10.080 --> 40:11.080]  And that happened to us.
[40:11.080 --> 40:15.080]  We never knew anything about a Rule 11, didn't know what one were.
[40:15.080 --> 40:26.080]  And it was filed, it was signed by our attorney, and it was initiated by the defense side who signed it and filed it.
[40:26.080 --> 40:31.080]  And when we found out about it a week later, we notified the court that we never knew anything about a Rule 11.
[40:31.080 --> 40:33.080]  We never saw the case.
[40:33.080 --> 40:38.080]  And we in turn filed our attorney where we asked him to get off the case.
[40:38.080 --> 40:42.080]  And I think a couple of months later, he did get off the case.
[40:42.080 --> 40:48.080]  And that left us, but we asked him before he got off the case to do something with the Rule 11.
[40:48.080 --> 40:50.080]  And he said it wasn't that easy to do something with.
[40:50.080 --> 40:52.080]  I said, well, you need to get rid of it or something.
[40:52.080 --> 40:54.080]  I don't know what you need to do.
[40:54.080 --> 41:00.080]  And the judge called for a status conference.
[41:00.080 --> 41:05.080]  And at that time, although he had already been fired, but the defense side subpoenaed him to court.
[41:05.080 --> 41:07.080]  He didn't show up.
[41:07.080 --> 41:10.080]  And the defense side made note of that, that he didn't show up.
[41:10.080 --> 41:12.080]  I think it was on purpose he didn't show up.
[41:12.080 --> 41:18.080]  So we told the judge in open court we did not know anything about a Rule 11.
[41:18.080 --> 41:20.080]  We never saw the case.
[41:20.080 --> 41:27.080]  We never saw the settlement agreement that they're talking about that the defense side filed in the summer judgment.
[41:27.080 --> 41:32.080]  And I was in a hospital the day that he said we were going to sign it, but we never signed it.
[41:32.080 --> 41:34.080]  It's 15 pages long.
[41:34.080 --> 41:35.080]  It needs to be signed.
[41:35.080 --> 41:37.080]  We refused to sign it because we don't agree with it.
[41:37.080 --> 41:38.080]  It's ambiguous.
[41:38.080 --> 41:42.080]  And it's against the law because inside of the settlement agreement,
[41:42.080 --> 41:48.080]  it's saying that you're signing it on your own free will and you're not being coerced.
[41:48.080 --> 41:53.080]  So the judge granted them summer judgment a couple months later,
[41:53.080 --> 41:59.080]  and he ordered by order us to sign the settlement agreement, and they stepped the $40,000.
[41:59.080 --> 42:05.080]  Well, we never saw the agreement until they filed it in summer judgment.
[42:05.080 --> 42:09.080]  We put proof in there after the day that I was in a hospital, but the documents were never signed.
[42:09.080 --> 42:12.080]  They're still not signed to this day.
[42:12.080 --> 42:20.080]  We filed them. We ended up being our own attorneys in this case, I mean our own state, and we went to the 14th book of appeals.
[42:20.080 --> 42:27.080]  We appealed it, and then that's when we did the spinoff that I was talking about last week of doing the judge,
[42:27.080 --> 42:28.080]  and that case was dismissed.
[42:28.080 --> 42:31.080]  Now that case is at the Fifth Circuit.
[42:31.080 --> 42:35.080]  So my next question on top of that one is how do I deal with the Fifth Circuit?
[42:35.080 --> 42:37.080]  Right now it's there at the Fifth Circuit.
[42:37.080 --> 42:41.080]  A lot of attorneys are telling me that they've never even gotten a case to the Fifth Circuit,
[42:41.080 --> 42:43.080]  neither to the Fourteenth Circuit.
[42:43.080 --> 42:48.080]  We're at both circuits right now, but there is an invalid Rule 11 that stopped my due process,
[42:48.080 --> 42:54.080]  and I think earlier I heard someone talking about the Constitutional, the Fourteenth Amendment right.
[42:54.080 --> 42:56.080]  I have a right to due process.
[42:56.080 --> 43:01.080]  That Rule 11 stopped me from, because I had an attorney that was going to take the case,
[43:01.080 --> 43:05.080]  but when he saw the Rule 11, he said, oh, can't do nothing.
[43:05.080 --> 43:07.080]  I said, well, what do you mean you can't do nothing?
[43:07.080 --> 43:08.080]  There's a Rule 11 in there.
[43:08.080 --> 43:10.080]  I said, yeah, but it's invalid.
[43:10.080 --> 43:14.080]  It's not, it's not, it don't have anything with it.
[43:14.080 --> 43:15.080]  Okay.
[43:15.080 --> 43:17.080]  You're just going to have to wait for a ruling.
[43:17.080 --> 43:20.080]  Once you file your motions with the Fifth Circuit,
[43:20.080 --> 43:23.080]  you're just going to have to wait for a ruling from them.
[43:23.080 --> 43:26.080]  Have you filed an appeal there?
[43:26.080 --> 43:27.080]  Yes, we filed an appeal.
[43:27.080 --> 43:28.080]  Okay.
[43:28.080 --> 43:29.080]  Then the documents are in.
[43:29.080 --> 43:31.080]  You'll have to wait for a ruling,
[43:31.080 --> 43:36.080]  and if you're pro se, the Fifth Circuit's going to rule against you out of hand,
[43:36.080 --> 43:40.080]  and then you have to go to the Supreme.
[43:40.080 --> 43:44.080]  So the invalid, I mean, isn't the invalid Rule 11 same to me?
[43:44.080 --> 43:45.080]  No, okay.
[43:45.080 --> 43:46.080]  Wait a minute.
[43:46.080 --> 43:47.080]  You don't understand.
[43:47.080 --> 43:49.080]  The courts are just corrupt.
[43:49.080 --> 43:50.080]  Okay.
[43:50.080 --> 43:51.080]  We're about to go to break.
[43:51.080 --> 43:54.080]  This is Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[43:54.080 --> 44:01.080]  We'll be right back on the other side, and we'll finish this up.
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[45:28.080 --> 45:55.080]  Okay, this is Randy Kelton, Debra Steven, Eddie Craig, Rule of Law Radio, we're back.
[45:55.080 --> 45:59.080]  We're talking to Priscilla in Texas.
[45:59.080 --> 46:07.080]  And if you have a hope that you briefed out your appeal well,
[46:07.080 --> 46:10.080]  because if you didn't, even if you did,
[46:10.080 --> 46:18.080]  the Fifth is likely to just overrule you simply because you're pro se.
[46:18.080 --> 46:21.080]  The courts are just corrupt.
[46:21.080 --> 46:26.080]  And sometimes we get lucky and get a good ruling, but the most time we don't.
[46:26.080 --> 46:28.080]  The Fourteenth Amendment, right, means nothing.
[46:28.080 --> 46:30.080]  It's just not even, it should even be on the books.
[46:30.080 --> 46:35.080]  I mean, we should just take it off the books and just take it off the books.
[46:35.080 --> 46:38.080]  I mean, it should be banished, nothing, nothing.
[46:38.080 --> 46:40.080]  Wade, I don't know what you're talking about.
[46:40.080 --> 46:41.080]  Take what off what books?
[46:41.080 --> 46:42.080]  The Fourteenth Amendment.
[46:42.080 --> 46:45.080]  It should be, I mean, the Fourteenth Amendment, the due process,
[46:45.080 --> 46:47.080]  it should be wiped off the books.
[46:47.080 --> 46:50.080]  It does no good.
[46:50.080 --> 46:52.080]  There's nothing wrong with the Fourteenth Amendment.
[46:52.080 --> 46:53.080]  Our courts are corrupt.
[46:53.080 --> 47:02.080]  We need to go after the judges and force our officials to enforce the law.
[47:02.080 --> 47:07.080]  There are ways to go after these judges.
[47:07.080 --> 47:10.080]  Challenges against, you know, follow with risk management against them,
[47:10.080 --> 47:12.080]  follow judicial conduct complaints.
[47:12.080 --> 47:14.080]  It begins to add up on them.
[47:14.080 --> 47:20.080]  We just sit back and feel bad and feel, you know, abused and mistreated.
[47:20.080 --> 47:24.080]  They'll just keep doing it because they really don't care if we feel bad.
[47:24.080 --> 47:30.080]  If we don't go for their throats, they're going to keep stealing from us.
[47:30.080 --> 47:35.080]  And I wish it wasn't this way, but unfortunately it is.
[47:35.080 --> 47:41.080]  First and next thing you need to do is file a malpractice suit against your attorney.
[47:41.080 --> 47:44.080]  Will that work for the other defense side?
[47:44.080 --> 47:46.080]  Does anybody really let me do it?
[47:46.080 --> 47:50.080]  Well, if the other side, you would have to prove that the other side...
[47:50.080 --> 47:54.080]  Okay, is the document that claims to have been,
[47:54.080 --> 47:57.080]  that the attorney claimed the two of you signed,
[47:57.080 --> 48:00.080]  does it actually have signatures on it?
[48:00.080 --> 48:01.080]  Well, no, he never claimed we signed it.
[48:01.080 --> 48:02.080]  That's the problem.
[48:02.080 --> 48:03.080]  We never signed.
[48:03.080 --> 48:04.080]  They know we never signed.
[48:04.080 --> 48:08.080]  The judge is making us sign that agreement to make it official.
[48:08.080 --> 48:15.080]  Tell the judge to go scratch.
[48:15.080 --> 48:18.080]  The judge is making us do it under order.
[48:18.080 --> 48:20.080]  Tell him to go scratch with his order.
[48:20.080 --> 48:25.080]  He has no authority to file such an order.
[48:25.080 --> 48:28.080]  Challenge his subject matter jurisdiction.
[48:28.080 --> 48:29.080]  Yes, it's unheard of.
[48:29.080 --> 48:30.080]  He's making us do it.
[48:30.080 --> 48:31.080]  He said do it.
[48:31.080 --> 48:34.080]  You're going to do it and you're going to take $40,000 and the case closed.
[48:34.080 --> 48:38.080]  Tell him, no, I am not.
[48:38.080 --> 48:41.080]  But first thing, sue that other attorney.
[48:41.080 --> 48:45.080]  Whatever this is going to cost you, sue your attorney for triple.
[48:45.080 --> 48:46.080]  Okay.
[48:46.080 --> 48:50.080]  When you start going after the attorneys,
[48:50.080 --> 48:58.080]  the courts are more likely to give you something to keep you from beating up on their buddies.
[48:58.080 --> 49:02.080]  These guys all slop from the same trough.
[49:02.080 --> 49:09.080]  The last time I went to court, I sent a document called a notice in demand.
[49:09.080 --> 49:15.080]  And my attorney, who is a court-appointed attorney, said he didn't understand what that was.
[49:15.080 --> 49:22.080]  And I told him, remember I told you when I insisted that you adjudicate every one of my rights
[49:22.080 --> 49:24.080]  that I would protect you from the courts?
[49:24.080 --> 49:26.080]  He said, I remember you saying that.
[49:26.080 --> 49:34.080]  Well, this document is to notify the courts that you have an unruly client.
[49:34.080 --> 49:39.080]  And this client is prepared to kick your butt every way from Sunday.
[49:39.080 --> 49:47.080]  So now the judge has to protect you from me instead of using you to beat me up.
[49:47.080 --> 49:53.080]  And he sat back there and thought a minute and he said, you've got a good point there.
[49:53.080 --> 49:58.080]  So you can go after the attorneys, file bar grievances on the other attorneys.
[49:58.080 --> 50:02.080]  Boy, that will get them screaming bloody murder.
[50:02.080 --> 50:05.080]  They hate pro-says.
[50:05.080 --> 50:08.080]  And this is why they hate pro-says.
[50:08.080 --> 50:11.080]  File a judicial conduct complaint against the judge.
[50:11.080 --> 50:14.080]  I did that too.
[50:14.080 --> 50:17.080]  They said it was a appeal issue.
[50:17.080 --> 50:18.080]  Okay.
[50:18.080 --> 50:24.080]  They understand the Judicial Conduct Commission, they're there to protect the judges.
[50:24.080 --> 50:28.080]  The problem is this stays on their record forever.
[50:28.080 --> 50:31.080]  Then you file a claim with risk management.
[50:31.080 --> 50:32.080]  Risk management.
[50:32.080 --> 50:38.080]  And risk management will blow off your claim, but that raises his bond rating.
[50:38.080 --> 50:40.080]  Where is risk management?
[50:40.080 --> 50:41.080]  Where are they?
[50:41.080 --> 50:45.080]  You can get them, actually maybe Russell is listening.
[50:45.080 --> 50:46.080]  He may call in and tell you how to do that.
[50:46.080 --> 50:49.080]  He's going to send me some documents on how to do that.
[50:49.080 --> 50:50.080]  Okay.
[50:50.080 --> 50:51.080]  But you file on risk management.
[50:51.080 --> 50:54.080]  This is something that's out of their control.
[50:54.080 --> 50:56.080]  This is an insurance company.
[50:56.080 --> 51:00.080]  You get out here and get in a wreck, your insurance company is going to, even if it is not your fault,
[51:00.080 --> 51:04.080]  they're still going to raise your rates.
[51:04.080 --> 51:08.080]  Judges the same way when you file against this bond.
[51:08.080 --> 51:09.080]  Okay.
[51:09.080 --> 51:15.080]  And when you file a judicial conduct complaint, it stays with them forever.
[51:15.080 --> 51:22.080]  But bar grievances against the attorneys on the other side, they will squeal like a stuck pig.
[51:22.080 --> 51:29.080]  Well, the federal judges, they complain going another route, doesn't it, with the federal judge.
[51:29.080 --> 51:33.080]  They're going with the judicial...
[51:33.080 --> 51:34.080]  Okay.
[51:34.080 --> 51:43.080]  See, the federal judges, they serve for life as long as they're good behavior.
[51:43.080 --> 51:46.080]  Every time the administration changes, the judges get worried.
[51:46.080 --> 51:49.080]  So you start hammering the judges.
[51:49.080 --> 51:54.080]  We've got Sparks here in Austin.
[51:54.080 --> 51:56.080]  He bought his position from Bush.
[51:56.080 --> 51:58.080]  They created a new position for him.
[51:58.080 --> 52:03.080]  He's the richest judge, richest federal judge in the country.
[52:03.080 --> 52:06.080]  He bought his position from Bush.
[52:06.080 --> 52:09.080]  He didn't buy it from Obama.
[52:09.080 --> 52:15.080]  And now you start hammering him, give Obama a reason to get him removed from office
[52:15.080 --> 52:20.080]  and replace him with someone handpicked by Obama,
[52:20.080 --> 52:23.080]  because Obama's got political debts to pay.
[52:23.080 --> 52:24.080]  Okay.
[52:24.080 --> 52:27.080]  So it's all politics.
[52:27.080 --> 52:30.080]  So let's learn how to use politics on them.
[52:30.080 --> 52:31.080]  Okay.
[52:31.080 --> 52:37.080]  And the problem is when you start filing these things, never mention it to the court.
[52:37.080 --> 52:38.080]  Not a word.
[52:38.080 --> 52:42.080]  Judge tells me I have to sign something, and I don't think I do.
[52:42.080 --> 52:44.080]  Judge has come to complain.
[52:44.080 --> 52:49.080]  Challenge to claim to risk management.
[52:49.080 --> 52:53.080]  He's not going to say a word to me about it.
[52:53.080 --> 52:55.080]  He's forbidden to.
[52:55.080 --> 52:59.080]  I file bar grievances against those attorneys, and they're not going to say anything about it.
[52:59.080 --> 53:06.080]  Because if they do, I'll file a grievance against them for that.
[53:06.080 --> 53:08.080]  We're going to have to fight them.
[53:08.080 --> 53:11.080]  These guys are going to give you nothing.
[53:11.080 --> 53:14.080]  So you've got nothing to lose fighting them.
[53:14.080 --> 53:15.080]  Yep.
[53:15.080 --> 53:16.080]  Yep.
[53:16.080 --> 53:18.080]  I just have to get busy then.
[53:18.080 --> 53:21.080]  I'm just all interested in risk management and see where I go with that one.
[53:21.080 --> 53:27.080]  I'm telling you, just making inquiries, they'll find out about it.
[53:27.080 --> 53:35.080]  When the judge knows you're going for his throat, he's going to be less likely to sting you.
[53:35.080 --> 53:36.080]  Okay.
[53:36.080 --> 53:41.080]  Well, everyone's told me, the other attorneys have told me, that he cannot make me sign an agreement that I never saw.
[53:41.080 --> 53:45.080]  But he could because he's doing it illegally for the big company.
[53:45.080 --> 53:47.080]  The big company is a big economy company.
[53:47.080 --> 53:48.080]  File against the judge.
[53:48.080 --> 53:49.080]  Okay.
[53:49.080 --> 53:53.080]  The company's got money, but you got politics.
[53:53.080 --> 54:01.080]  Make up a letter, explain to him what the judge is trying to do, and send it to every one of your congressmen, every congressman in Texas.
[54:01.080 --> 54:02.080]  Oh, yeah.
[54:02.080 --> 54:05.080]  Get the calls coming in, say, I'm getting these letters.
[54:05.080 --> 54:07.080]  What is going on?
[54:07.080 --> 54:09.080]  Okay.
[54:09.080 --> 54:11.080]  Everything's going to be politics.
[54:11.080 --> 54:19.080]  When the courts are so corrupt that you can't get justice there, you have to turn to politics.
[54:19.080 --> 54:28.080]  The problem that's existing now is the courts are so corrupt that neither side can trust them.
[54:28.080 --> 54:36.080]  I have a bit of case in my mouth with judges now when I go out to vote for a judge and they say, I'm going to be fair and I'm going to defend,
[54:36.080 --> 54:40.080]  then I'm going to stand up and say, how do you feel about pro se litigants in your court?
[54:40.080 --> 54:41.080]  That's what I want to know now.
[54:41.080 --> 54:42.080]  Yeah.
[54:42.080 --> 54:44.080]  How do you feel about pro se litigants?
[54:44.080 --> 54:48.080]  What's your history with pro se litigants?
[54:48.080 --> 54:55.080]  Yeah, but you'd be much better off researching those answers before you ask them so you can catch them in a lie at the stand.
[54:55.080 --> 54:56.080]  Exactly.
[54:56.080 --> 54:58.080]  I was going to say, yeah, know the answer.
[54:58.080 --> 55:00.080]  Be like them.
[55:00.080 --> 55:03.080]  Don't ask a question you don't already know the answer to.
[55:03.080 --> 55:04.080]  Sure.
[55:04.080 --> 55:06.080]  But it's easy enough to check.
[55:06.080 --> 55:12.080]  You go down to the county clerk and look for their statistics.
[55:12.080 --> 55:19.080]  They keep all sorts of statistics and see what they keep on the judges.
[55:19.080 --> 55:24.080]  We already know what their judges' pro se records are.
[55:24.080 --> 55:28.080]  When we know they're in Louisiana, it happened at what, 2,500?
[55:28.080 --> 55:30.080]  The guy that killed himself?
[55:30.080 --> 55:31.080]  Yeah.
[55:31.080 --> 55:33.080]  Yeah, it was done as in Louisiana.
[55:33.080 --> 55:36.080]  That was the Fifth Circuit court that did that.
[55:36.080 --> 55:40.080]  Yeah, but every pro se litigant came in with them, denied, denied, denied.
[55:40.080 --> 55:43.080]  So we need to start going after the judge.
[55:43.080 --> 55:44.080]  They're not used to it.
[55:44.080 --> 55:46.080]  Attorneys don't do that.
[55:46.080 --> 55:47.080]  Yeah, they can't.
[55:47.080 --> 55:48.080]  Exactly.
[55:48.080 --> 55:51.080]  And that's why they hate us.
[55:51.080 --> 55:53.080]  Because we can't.
[55:53.080 --> 55:58.080]  Okay, we kind of used to work this one out.
[55:58.080 --> 56:00.080]  You have any other questions, Priscilla?
[56:00.080 --> 56:01.080]  That's it, that's it.
[56:01.080 --> 56:03.080]  Okay, thank you very much.
[56:03.080 --> 56:04.080]  All right.
[56:04.080 --> 56:06.080]  Now we've got Dave in Georgia.
[56:06.080 --> 56:08.080]  Dave in Georgia.
[56:08.080 --> 56:09.080]  Hey, Dave.
[56:09.080 --> 56:10.080]  Hey, Dave.
[56:10.080 --> 56:11.080]  Thanks for calling in.
[56:11.080 --> 56:12.080]  What's on your mind?
[56:12.080 --> 56:13.080]  And after that, we have Brandy coming up.
[56:13.080 --> 56:14.080]  So go ahead, Dave.
[56:14.080 --> 56:19.080]  Just wanted to revisit the Roe thing for one moment.
[56:19.080 --> 56:24.080]  I had a question because you wanted to distinguish between a public and a private gathering.
[56:24.080 --> 56:28.080]  And that event was hosted by college Republicans at UT,
[56:28.080 --> 56:31.080]  but it was held at the University of Texas Union ballroom.
[56:31.080 --> 56:35.080]  So how would that be a private event?
[56:35.080 --> 56:37.080]  They rented the ballroom.
[56:37.080 --> 56:38.080]  They rented the ballroom.
[56:38.080 --> 56:39.080]  Yeah.
[56:39.080 --> 56:40.080]  But...
[56:40.080 --> 56:46.080]  It's a private event because it wasn't a government function.
[56:46.080 --> 56:47.080]  Okay, put it this way.
[56:47.080 --> 56:51.080]  Even classes at UT are considered private.
[56:51.080 --> 56:57.080]  I mean, it's something that you have to pay for to go do, even though it's a state university.
[56:57.080 --> 57:04.080]  Even, you know, even when there's like, say, a club with a show, like with a band,
[57:04.080 --> 57:08.080]  it may be open to the public, but it's still technically a private event.
[57:08.080 --> 57:09.080]  All right?
[57:09.080 --> 57:20.080]  They're just opening it to the public to buy tickets and to go in and, you know, check it out and enjoy yourself and enjoy the music.
[57:20.080 --> 57:21.080]  All right?
[57:21.080 --> 57:26.080]  Unless it's a government event on government property, it's considered a private event.
[57:26.080 --> 57:27.080]  Okay.
[57:27.080 --> 57:29.080]  Well, I knew it was on government property being on the school.
[57:29.080 --> 57:35.080]  Yeah, but it has to be technically a public event, i.e., like a public hearing.
[57:35.080 --> 57:38.080]  Let me give you a fine line kind of example, okay?
[57:38.080 --> 57:49.080]  A couple of years ago, John Bush organized an event at City Hall here in Texas, a public forum,
[57:49.080 --> 57:55.080]  which is what it was, on the fact that the police are trying to get government,
[57:55.080 --> 58:02.080]  federal government funding to fund stick and needles in our arms on the side of the road when they pull us over.
[58:02.080 --> 58:06.080]  Now, it was held at City Hall and there was a city council member present,
[58:06.080 --> 58:09.080]  but technically it was a private event.
[58:09.080 --> 58:11.080]  It was not a public hearing.
[58:11.080 --> 58:13.080]  It wasn't a city council meeting.
[58:13.080 --> 58:18.080]  That was technically a government event held on the government property.
[58:18.080 --> 58:22.080]  It was technically a private event and it was held in City Hall.
[58:22.080 --> 58:30.080]  It was called a public forum, not a public hearing, and that event was very well controlled.
[58:30.080 --> 58:37.080]  Nobody was allowed to make any comments about how they really felt about the issue.
[58:37.080 --> 58:42.080]  People were only allowed to ask questions, and I thought that was very unfair,
[58:42.080 --> 58:47.080]  and so that's the difference between a public event and a private event.
[58:47.080 --> 58:52.080]  That police blood withdrawal forum was a private event and nobody was allowed to speak their minds,
[58:52.080 --> 58:55.080]  and so that is the same thing what happened at the Karl Rove thing.
[58:55.080 --> 58:57.080]  Okay, you see the difference now?
[58:57.080 --> 59:00.080]  Okay, okay, wait, we got to go. We'll be right back.
[59:27.080 --> 59:30.080]  Okay, we got to go.
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[01:00:04.080 --> 01:00:09.080]  Afghan and NATO forces Thursday handed over control of Marja to civilian authorities
[01:00:09.080 --> 01:00:14.080]  in the wake of a huge military operation to capture the area from Taliban control.
[01:00:14.080 --> 01:00:18.080]  Hours earlier, roadside bombs were uncovered in the main market,
[01:00:18.080 --> 01:00:22.080]  suggesting Taliban fighters were still active in the area.
[01:00:22.080 --> 01:00:25.080]  The Afghan Human Rights Commission said Wednesday
[01:00:25.080 --> 01:00:31.080]  28 civilians have been killed so far in Marja and urged pro-government forces to take more care,
[01:00:31.080 --> 01:00:35.080]  distinguishing between non-competence and militants.
[01:00:35.080 --> 01:00:40.080]  The Department of Homeland Security has more contractors working for it than full-time employees.
[01:00:40.080 --> 01:00:45.080]  Senator Joseph Lieberman, chairman of the Senate's Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee,
[01:00:45.080 --> 01:00:51.080]  said he was astounded to learn there are more than 200,000 contractor employees.
[01:00:51.080 --> 01:00:55.080]  The civilian workforce numbers 188,000.
[01:00:55.080 --> 01:01:02.080]  Top of the hour news brought to you by INN World Report.
[01:01:02.080 --> 01:01:09.080]  Abu Mahdi al-Muhandas, one of 6,000 candidates running in the Iraqi elections next month,
[01:01:09.080 --> 01:01:14.080]  won't set foot on the campaign trail for fear of a U.S. assassination attempt.
[01:01:14.080 --> 01:01:17.080]  Al-Muhandas told Makachi News, quote,
[01:01:17.080 --> 01:01:23.080]  I was told officially by the Speaker of Parliament that it's preferable I don't show up before the election
[01:01:23.080 --> 01:01:27.080]  because they couldn't assure I would be protected, adding, quote,
[01:01:27.080 --> 01:01:32.080]  since 2005 the Americans have conveyed a message they'll kidnap or assassinate me.
[01:01:32.080 --> 01:01:39.080]  Campaign posters depict al-Muhandas as an elder statesman who belongs to the main Shiite Muslim ticket
[01:01:39.080 --> 01:01:42.080]  challenging Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
[01:01:42.080 --> 01:01:48.080]  Last July, the U.S. Treasury Department accused al-Muhandas of helping train Shiite militia
[01:01:48.080 --> 01:01:54.080]  to attack U.S. forces in Iraq and of moving weapons from Iran into Iraq for that purpose.
[01:01:54.080 --> 01:01:58.080]  Al-Muhandas lives in Iran, effectively exiled from his home country,
[01:01:58.080 --> 01:02:05.080]  because of Washington's accusations he's an Iranian proxy with a terrorism rap sheet.
[01:02:05.080 --> 01:02:10.080]  Over one million Iraqis have met violent deaths as a result of a U.S.-led invasion,
[01:02:10.080 --> 01:02:15.080]  a study conducted by the prestigious British polling group Opinion Research Business shows
[01:02:15.080 --> 01:02:24.080]  the invasion and occupation of Iraq exceeded the 800,000 to 900,000 believed killed in the Rwandan genocide in 1994
[01:02:24.080 --> 01:02:31.080]  and is approaching the 1.7 million who died in Cambodia's infamous killing fields in the 1970s.
[01:02:31.080 --> 01:02:37.080]  In interviews with 2,414 adults, the poll found that more than one in five respondents
[01:02:37.080 --> 01:02:42.080]  had had at least one death in their household as a result of the conflict.
[01:02:42.080 --> 01:02:47.080]  Authors Joshua Holland and Michael Schwartz discovered most violence against Iraqis
[01:02:47.080 --> 01:02:50.080]  was not perpetrated by Iraqis themselves.
[01:02:50.080 --> 01:02:55.080]  Top of the hour news brought to you by INN World Report.
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[01:03:25.080 --> 01:03:31.080]  Okay, we're coming back for hour two and we're speaking with Dave in Georgia.
[01:03:31.080 --> 01:03:32.080]  Then we're going to go to Brandy.
[01:03:32.080 --> 01:03:36.080]  After that the lines are open if you want to call in 512-646-1984.
[01:03:36.080 --> 01:03:41.080]  And I just wanted to comment a little bit more about that police blood withdrawal form.
[01:03:41.080 --> 01:03:44.080]  By no means was any of that John Bush's fault.
[01:03:44.080 --> 01:03:50.080]  I thought he did a fantastic job of organizing that event and getting everyone out.
[01:03:50.080 --> 01:03:52.080]  There were literally hundreds of people.
[01:03:52.080 --> 01:03:55.080]  City Hall was packed, literally packed.
[01:03:55.080 --> 01:04:00.080]  There were people out in the lobby waiting to get in that could not get in because of fire code.
[01:04:00.080 --> 01:04:06.080]  And he really did a lot to raise the awareness about police blood withdrawals and all that.
[01:04:06.080 --> 01:04:07.080]  And it certainly wasn't his fault.
[01:04:07.080 --> 01:04:16.080]  But apparently the only way that the speakers would agree to participate in the event was that there had to be that rule
[01:04:16.080 --> 01:04:20.080]  that nobody was allowed to make any comments.
[01:04:20.080 --> 01:04:25.080]  Nobody was allowed to say how they really felt about the issue.
[01:04:25.080 --> 01:04:27.080]  They could only ask questions.
[01:04:27.080 --> 01:04:33.080]  And so that was kind of a damper on the whole thing because nobody got to really speak their mind.
[01:04:33.080 --> 01:04:42.080]  But anyway, the point of all of this is that when it's a public hearing, a true public hearing,
[01:04:42.080 --> 01:04:47.080]  like if it was a city council meeting and then they open up the floor for a little while
[01:04:47.080 --> 01:04:52.080]  for people to come up to the mic and make comments, you get to speak your mind.
[01:04:52.080 --> 01:04:55.080]  That ain't the way it is in a city council meeting.
[01:04:55.080 --> 01:04:58.080]  You only get to ask questions.
[01:04:58.080 --> 01:05:02.080]  The only rules are only made like that for private events.
[01:05:02.080 --> 01:05:08.080]  So that's the only difference that I was trying to point out because in that private forum,
[01:05:08.080 --> 01:05:13.080]  which was open to the public, people could only ask questions.
[01:05:13.080 --> 01:05:16.080]  And so it's the same kind of thing with the Karl Rove thing.
[01:05:16.080 --> 01:05:18.080]  Okay, does that make sense, Dave?
[01:05:18.080 --> 01:05:20.080]  Yeah, yeah, I understand what you're saying.
[01:05:20.080 --> 01:05:21.080]  Okay, so go ahead.
[01:05:21.080 --> 01:05:26.080]  Yeah, I was going to say that that was Aaron Dykes, one of Alex Jones' producers
[01:05:26.080 --> 01:05:29.080]  that the caller was referring to that got arrested.
[01:05:29.080 --> 01:05:33.080]  Apparently there was a We Are Change individual that got arrested also.
[01:05:33.080 --> 01:05:38.080]  Probably so, but yeah, Aaron Dykes is one of Alex's producers.
[01:05:38.080 --> 01:05:43.080]  And that was Section 4205 of the Texas Code, which you might want to look at because I have a feeling
[01:05:43.080 --> 01:05:46.080]  you could start interpreting that rather broadly.
[01:05:46.080 --> 01:05:48.080]  The language is a little bit vague in that.
[01:05:48.080 --> 01:05:50.080]  It's kind of weird.
[01:05:50.080 --> 01:05:55.080]  The other thing I had to do with Eddie talking about an amendment to the Constitution,
[01:05:55.080 --> 01:05:58.080]  and I just wanted to say that Dave Champion had an idea for a great amendment,
[01:05:58.080 --> 01:06:07.080]  which was to forbid corporations and trade associations that do business
[01:06:07.080 --> 01:06:10.080]  from contributing to political campaigns.
[01:06:10.080 --> 01:06:14.080]  That would go a long way to straighten messes out we have to deal with.
[01:06:14.080 --> 01:06:17.080]  Thank you for your time.
[01:06:17.080 --> 01:06:21.080]  Well, if I may, I'd like to jump on the end of that discussion there for just a second.
[01:06:21.080 --> 01:06:28.080]  Technically speaking, I wouldn't care how many corporations contributed to presidential campaigns or how much.
[01:06:28.080 --> 01:06:30.080]  I think it would be a great thing.
[01:06:30.080 --> 01:06:37.080]  What I think should happen, however, is that they should not be able to do so to any particular candidate.
[01:06:37.080 --> 01:06:44.080]  What should happen is that all money for the presidential election should be dumped into a pool,
[01:06:44.080 --> 01:06:49.080]  and then once all the candidates have paid their entry fee,
[01:06:49.080 --> 01:06:54.080]  you know right now there's a $1,000 registration fee to put your name on the ballot for president,
[01:06:54.080 --> 01:06:58.080]  you pay that $1,000 fee and you stay in with your hat in the ring,
[01:06:58.080 --> 01:07:03.080]  that pool of money then gets evenly divided among all candidates.
[01:07:03.080 --> 01:07:09.080]  That way they all have the same treasury to draw from, they are all on equal footing,
[01:07:09.080 --> 01:07:14.080]  they all can make their determination over how it is to be used with the exception of
[01:07:14.080 --> 01:07:21.080]  each one must account for every penny of what they paid out of the share they were given,
[01:07:21.080 --> 01:07:28.080]  and any funds not used remain in the pool until the next series of elections comes up.
[01:07:28.080 --> 01:07:35.080]  So given that, that would ensure, in my opinion, that no single candidate could be bought off
[01:07:35.080 --> 01:07:40.080]  by any special interest, because no one could say who got whose money.
[01:07:40.080 --> 01:07:45.080]  It was put into one sack, they reached in and were all given an equal amount of that sack,
[01:07:45.080 --> 01:07:49.080]  no one was told how the money was supplied, and nobody cared,
[01:07:49.080 --> 01:07:53.080]  because it put everybody running on equal footing and equal time.
[01:07:53.080 --> 01:07:58.080]  How they spent it to get there, as long as it was legal, no problem,
[01:07:58.080 --> 01:08:02.080]  and as long as it was 100% accounted for, no problem.
[01:08:02.080 --> 01:08:07.080]  That, to me, would be the best way to make sure we get fair elections back,
[01:08:07.080 --> 01:08:16.080]  no more buying off the candidates who feel like they owe somebody something when they get elected.
[01:08:16.080 --> 01:08:26.080]  Interesting idea. Although how would we, as citizens, as individuals, how would we support the candidates that we want?
[01:08:26.080 --> 01:08:31.080]  Well, like I say, you can support whatever candidates have put in their thousand dollars
[01:08:31.080 --> 01:08:34.080]  to do their running or whatever it was said at that time.
[01:08:34.080 --> 01:08:37.080]  There's nothing to say you can't support your particular candidate,
[01:08:37.080 --> 01:08:42.080]  but you do that with your vote, not just your money.
[01:08:42.080 --> 01:08:51.080]  But basically that would make it where no candidate could be bought off by any particular interest, anybody.
[01:08:51.080 --> 01:08:54.080]  Everybody's still free to vote for the candidate of their choice
[01:08:54.080 --> 01:09:00.080]  and to act in support by going out and advertising their candidate on their own,
[01:09:00.080 --> 01:09:05.080]  but the candidate would only have a limited amount of money, as each one would, an equal amount of money,
[01:09:05.080 --> 01:09:09.080]  to pay for anything that they had supporters for that they sponsored.
[01:09:09.080 --> 01:09:13.080]  Well, I'm in favor of that, I think, maybe with a slight modification,
[01:09:13.080 --> 01:09:20.080]  that when it comes to private donors, see, right now I think it's like a $1,500 or a $2,000 limit.
[01:09:20.080 --> 01:09:26.080]  You can't give more than $2,000 to one candidate in a particular year if you're a private donor,
[01:09:26.080 --> 01:09:30.080]  but hey, if you're a corporation, the sky's the limit.
[01:09:30.080 --> 01:09:36.080]  And so I think that if they want to keep the $2,000 limit for private donors,
[01:09:36.080 --> 01:09:43.080]  well then let us continue as individuals to give our $2,000 to the candidate of our choice
[01:09:43.080 --> 01:09:50.080]  and just restrict this slush fund business to the corporations who are putting in the billions.
[01:09:50.080 --> 01:09:59.080]  Well, the only reason I would say no to that is simply because organized electoral processes
[01:09:59.080 --> 01:10:03.080]  always have a way of sneaking beyond the line.
[01:10:03.080 --> 01:10:09.080]  They'll stick the toe over the foul line as far as they can get it before somebody sees it and blows the whistle.
[01:10:09.080 --> 01:10:14.080]  And the way you're talking about, while good in theory, honest opinion, to me would be that
[01:10:14.080 --> 01:10:20.080]  these people would organize huge fundraisers, donated in individuals' names, of course,
[01:10:20.080 --> 01:10:28.080]  but each one is maximized to the limit for huge numbers of people to support their particular bird.
[01:10:28.080 --> 01:10:33.080]  And they would make sure to earmark those funds as coming in from the private side that,
[01:10:33.080 --> 01:10:36.080]  hey, you got these contributions from these individuals, buddy,
[01:10:36.080 --> 01:10:40.080]  you better be for us when we get up there and get you in office.
[01:10:40.080 --> 01:10:43.080]  That's what I'm trying to say we need to prevent.
[01:10:43.080 --> 01:10:48.080]  If the money cannot be traced back to any one set of obliging individuals,
[01:10:48.080 --> 01:10:52.080]  then the bought-off principle, as it were, is null and void.
[01:10:52.080 --> 01:10:55.080]  It doesn't exist.
[01:10:55.080 --> 01:11:00.080]  If everybody, private or public, made their donations to the pool,
[01:11:00.080 --> 01:11:05.080]  then it doesn't matter as far as the candidates go because everybody is equal.
[01:11:05.080 --> 01:11:07.080]  Everybody is equal.
[01:11:07.080 --> 01:11:12.080]  There is no one treasure chest bigger for the other than there is for this one
[01:11:12.080 --> 01:11:17.080]  because they had a political party with more clout organize for their fundraisers.
[01:11:17.080 --> 01:11:23.080]  That's the problem now is that they're obligated to those fundraisers for getting them elected.
[01:11:23.080 --> 01:11:26.080]  That's what I'm hoping my suggestion would prevent.
[01:11:26.080 --> 01:11:33.080]  They're not obligated to anyone, only to us, and that's what they have to run to represent is us.
[01:11:33.080 --> 01:11:36.080]  Interesting.
[01:11:36.080 --> 01:11:40.080]  Randy, comments before we move on to the next caller?
[01:11:40.080 --> 01:11:43.080]  I wish I had an easy solution for this one.
[01:11:43.080 --> 01:11:49.080]  The guys with a lot of money, it seems like no matter what hurdles we put in front of them,
[01:11:49.080 --> 01:11:52.080]  money seems to buy their way around the hurdles.
[01:11:52.080 --> 01:11:57.080]  Well, you know, Eddie's solution seems pretty legitimate to me,
[01:11:57.080 --> 01:12:01.080]  but we still have to get around the black box voting issue because they can,
[01:12:01.080 --> 01:12:05.080]  the corporations can always pay off the election machine,
[01:12:05.080 --> 01:12:09.080]  the voting machine companies to pre-program the results at the factory,
[01:12:09.080 --> 01:12:12.080]  which is basically what's going on now, and I can prove it.
[01:12:12.080 --> 01:12:16.080]  Well, I can only deal with one crisis at a time.
[01:12:16.080 --> 01:12:19.080]  Okay, Lisa, Eddie's dealt with the campaign contribution crisis,
[01:12:19.080 --> 01:12:22.080]  and now we have to deal with the black box voting crisis,
[01:12:22.080 --> 01:12:24.080]  which we have been on that for quite a while now.
[01:12:24.080 --> 01:12:26.080]  All right, so let's move on.
[01:12:26.080 --> 01:12:28.080]  We've got Brandy in Texas.
[01:12:28.080 --> 01:12:29.080]  Brandy, thanks for calling in.
[01:12:29.080 --> 01:12:31.080]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:12:31.080 --> 01:12:37.080]  I just want to say that I really don't have much of a backbone until I started listening to your show,
[01:12:37.080 --> 01:12:45.080]  and then I ended up in a situation to where I was given a valid card pool permit made out of cardboard,
[01:12:45.080 --> 01:12:49.080]  and I copied it because I am card pooling,
[01:12:49.080 --> 01:12:59.080]  and I have been charged with fraudulent use of a card pool sticker stating that it's illegal to make a copy format of my card pool.
[01:12:59.080 --> 01:13:06.080]  I looked at the card pool permit itself, and it does not say cannot copy anywhere on it.
[01:13:06.080 --> 01:13:09.080]  They immediately had my card booted.
[01:13:09.080 --> 01:13:18.080]  I showed up with my card pool person as my witness, and today when I went back to give them my appeal,
[01:13:18.080 --> 01:13:23.080]  they told me that I have to pay my ticket first in order to appeal,
[01:13:23.080 --> 01:13:28.080]  that the appeal process will be final, and that it will be a closed appeal.
[01:13:28.080 --> 01:13:36.080]  The day that I got my card booted, I asked for evidence of what they had saying that I was fraudulent using my card pool,
[01:13:36.080 --> 01:13:39.080]  and they only had a picture of my card pool permit.
[01:13:39.080 --> 01:13:43.080]  But when I showed up today, they told me the reason they went ahead and booted my car
[01:13:43.080 --> 01:13:48.080]  is because they saw both vehicles on the same day at the parking lot.
[01:13:48.080 --> 01:13:55.080]  So I've been told two different stories about why I'm being charged of this crime at Texas State,
[01:13:55.080 --> 01:13:58.080]  and I have no idea how to get it.
[01:13:58.080 --> 01:13:59.080]  I have no officer number.
[01:13:59.080 --> 01:14:03.080]  They won't give me an ID number or badge number who gave me the ticket.
[01:14:03.080 --> 01:14:07.080]  I just don't know what I can do to clear my name when I was given a valid permit,
[01:14:07.080 --> 01:14:11.080]  and I just copied it so it doesn't get ruined.
[01:14:11.080 --> 01:14:18.080]  Can you tell me the law about copying documents like the card pool permit?
[01:14:18.080 --> 01:14:19.080]  The only thing that you'd...
[01:14:19.080 --> 01:14:21.080]  I'm sorry, go ahead.
[01:14:21.080 --> 01:14:26.080]  They need to tell you the law that prevents you from copying the permit.
[01:14:26.080 --> 01:14:32.080]  We looked at the violations, and nowhere on their parking violations does it say you cannot copy the permit.
[01:14:32.080 --> 01:14:35.080]  It says you cannot duplicate it for illegal use.
[01:14:35.080 --> 01:14:38.080]  But I was issued a valid parking permit.
[01:14:38.080 --> 01:14:44.080]  I just copied it and used the copy form so I could keep my original state.
[01:14:44.080 --> 01:14:47.080]  Now, Brandy, what do you mean by a car pool permit?
[01:14:47.080 --> 01:14:49.080]  Is this a campus thing or is this a...
[01:14:49.080 --> 01:14:53.080]  Yes, it's campus police, and it's just something you hang on your rearview mirror
[01:14:53.080 --> 01:14:59.080]  to show your ID number that you are a car pool person.
[01:14:59.080 --> 01:15:02.080]  So the campus police booted your car?
[01:15:02.080 --> 01:15:07.080]  Oh, that day, yes, booted my car, charged me $40 that day.
[01:15:07.080 --> 01:15:10.080]  I asked them what proof do they have because of my car pool.
[01:15:10.080 --> 01:15:11.080]  I mean, they...
[01:15:11.080 --> 01:15:16.080]  I want to know what authority they have to boot your car.
[01:15:16.080 --> 01:15:22.080]  Oh, now I'm being threatened that I'm going to have to walk two miles to get to my college at 6 a.m.
[01:15:22.080 --> 01:15:28.080]  in the morning because they're accusing me of fraudulent use of this permit when it's a valid permit,
[01:15:28.080 --> 01:15:33.080]  and I've been using it honestly, but I just copied it.
[01:15:33.080 --> 01:15:42.080]  And now, I mean, they're literally telling me I'm not going to be able to use, you know, parks anywhere near campus.
[01:15:42.080 --> 01:15:44.080]  Everything's being taken away.
[01:15:44.080 --> 01:15:45.080]  It's a closed appeal.
[01:15:45.080 --> 01:15:48.080]  I don't know who issued me the ticket.
[01:15:48.080 --> 01:15:49.080]  They won't tell me.
[01:15:49.080 --> 01:15:52.080]  The supervisor still has not called me back.
[01:15:52.080 --> 01:15:57.080]  They will not accept my paperwork unless I pay the ticket, which is $150.
[01:15:57.080 --> 01:16:03.080]  So I've already put $200 into something I'm completely valid for.
[01:16:03.080 --> 01:16:03.080]  Okay.
[01:16:03.080 --> 01:16:06.080]  Well, see, first off, I have a couple of questions.
[01:16:06.080 --> 01:16:10.080]  I want to know, how do they know that you copied it anyway?
[01:16:10.080 --> 01:16:12.080]  Because the copy is what she had in the car.
[01:16:12.080 --> 01:16:14.080]  She wasn't displaying her original shoes.
[01:16:14.080 --> 01:16:17.080]  Oh, okay, okay, okay.
[01:16:17.080 --> 01:16:21.080]  That this has been, it's three weeks before the semester ends,
[01:16:21.080 --> 01:16:26.080]  and I was asked a week prior by some lady, why do you arrive early?
[01:16:26.080 --> 01:16:30.080]  And I explained to her that my Frank bits dropped off at the theater.
[01:16:30.080 --> 01:16:31.080]  It's none of their business.
[01:16:31.080 --> 01:16:32.080]  Right, exactly.
[01:16:32.080 --> 01:16:37.080]  But it ended up four days later, I have a boot on my car.
[01:16:37.080 --> 01:16:45.080]  And so I've been given conflicted stories about their evidence they have against me, and now I can't even get the truth.
[01:16:45.080 --> 01:16:47.080]  What is this, why are you here so early?
[01:16:47.080 --> 01:16:49.080]  Because I feel like it.
[01:16:49.080 --> 01:16:50.080]  That would have been my answer.
[01:16:50.080 --> 01:16:51.080]  It's none of your business.
[01:16:51.080 --> 01:16:52.080]  I'm an adult.
[01:16:52.080 --> 01:16:53.080]  I'll go where I want when I want.
[01:16:53.080 --> 01:16:58.080]  Like I said, the other thing is where do they get the authority to boot your car anyway?
[01:16:58.080 --> 01:17:01.080]  We'll be right back.
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[01:18:01.080 --> 01:18:21.080]  I was blindsided, but now I can see you clearly.
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[01:18:54.080 --> 01:18:55.080]  All right.
[01:18:55.080 --> 01:19:08.080]  We are speaking with Brandy in Texas talking about getting her car booted and dealing with charges concerning copying a carpool permit.
[01:19:08.080 --> 01:19:16.080]  And my, like I said, first order of business, they ain't got no business asking you what your business is anyway.
[01:19:16.080 --> 01:19:18.080]  I tell them it's none of your business.
[01:19:18.080 --> 01:19:22.080]  I'll get here when I feel like it and I won't when I don't.
[01:19:22.080 --> 01:19:28.080]  And besides that, I really do want to know what authority they have to boot your car.
[01:19:28.080 --> 01:19:34.080]  Well, we tried to ask them that that day, and we said, look, we would like the officer's name who did this.
[01:19:34.080 --> 01:19:39.080]  They would not give us that information, and we told the gentleman, look, you can't have a secret police there.
[01:19:39.080 --> 01:19:42.080]  You have to give us who issued me this ticket.
[01:19:42.080 --> 01:19:46.080]  And they said, that's why we're going to keep this conversation short.
[01:19:46.080 --> 01:19:47.080]  Okay.
[01:19:47.080 --> 01:19:49.080]  Well, then there is something you can do.
[01:19:49.080 --> 01:19:58.080]  If they're going to insist on covering up for this police officer, then the only assumption you can make is he is acting on behalf and at the behest of the school itself.
[01:19:58.080 --> 01:20:03.080]  So given that, that makes the school liable for the officer's actions.
[01:20:03.080 --> 01:20:11.080]  The school has no authority to seize private property, okay, not unless they can show that that property was involved in a crime.
[01:20:11.080 --> 01:20:18.080]  Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say, because the whole thing is this carpool permit, this has nothing to do with state law.
[01:20:18.080 --> 01:20:19.080]  That is so.
[01:20:19.080 --> 01:20:23.080]  Well, if it's a state school and it's issued by a state school, it may, but here's the deal.
[01:20:23.080 --> 01:20:32.080]  They have yet to produce a state law that grants them the authority to consider it a criminal violation or to act upon it as if it is.
[01:20:32.080 --> 01:20:34.080]  That's what they told me.
[01:20:34.080 --> 01:20:37.080]  They said, you're only in trouble with campus police.
[01:20:37.080 --> 01:20:42.080]  And I said, you're accusing me of fraudulent use of a valid carpool permit.
[01:20:42.080 --> 01:20:44.080]  I am not going to accept that.
[01:20:44.080 --> 01:20:49.080]  Well, but the problem is that's the problem with their statement, fraudulent use.
[01:20:49.080 --> 01:20:58.080]  If it was being used on the automobile for which it was issued by the person to whom it was issued, they have a real problem with that charge.
[01:20:58.080 --> 01:20:59.080]  It is.
[01:20:59.080 --> 01:21:00.080]  It is completely a valid permit.
[01:21:00.080 --> 01:21:05.080]  I just copied it because it's made out of cardboard and I want to keep the original state law.
[01:21:05.080 --> 01:21:06.080]  Oh, no, I understand.
[01:21:06.080 --> 01:21:09.080]  I did the same thing with the one they gave me when I was working service calls.
[01:21:09.080 --> 01:21:13.080]  I was the only computer shop allowed to go on to SFA and work in the dormitories.
[01:21:13.080 --> 01:21:15.080]  They gave me one for exactly the same reason.
[01:21:15.080 --> 01:21:17.080]  They told me that is illegal.
[01:21:17.080 --> 01:21:22.080]  And then today when I showed up and the girl goes, you know why you're really in trouble, and I go, why?
[01:21:22.080 --> 01:21:26.080]  And she goes, because they saw two vehicles there at the same day.
[01:21:26.080 --> 01:21:28.080]  And I go, where's your proof?
[01:21:28.080 --> 01:21:31.080]  You have pictures of my car and my carpool permit.
[01:21:31.080 --> 01:21:34.080]  Where is your proof that two cars were there on the same day?
[01:21:34.080 --> 01:21:36.080]  Because that is absolutely not true.
[01:21:36.080 --> 01:21:38.080]  And they don't have the proof.
[01:21:38.080 --> 01:21:43.080]  But they're accusing me of this and I have no way to go to – I can't be in the appeals court.
[01:21:43.080 --> 01:21:45.080]  I don't know who to speak to.
[01:21:45.080 --> 01:21:46.080]  Do I write the dean?
[01:21:46.080 --> 01:21:50.080]  Do I need to – what do I need to do to protect myself?
[01:21:50.080 --> 01:21:57.080]  Well, the first thing you need to do is file criminal complaints against everyone that you have talked to directly.
[01:21:57.080 --> 01:21:58.080]  Okay.
[01:21:58.080 --> 01:22:02.080]  Now, one of those is theft.
[01:22:02.080 --> 01:22:03.080]  Okay?
[01:22:03.080 --> 01:22:07.080]  When they booted your car, they took your property.
[01:22:07.080 --> 01:22:08.080]  Okay?
[01:22:08.080 --> 01:22:09.080]  Yes.
[01:22:09.080 --> 01:22:14.080]  They denied you use and access to your property without any authority to do so.
[01:22:14.080 --> 01:22:22.080]  Now, the one thing you've got to look at is what you signed and all the documents they had you signed to go to school there.
[01:22:22.080 --> 01:22:23.080]  Okay.
[01:22:23.080 --> 01:22:32.080]  Because if you didn't read it carefully, there is a possibility that you've agreed in a contract form to allow them to do what they've done.
[01:22:32.080 --> 01:22:33.080]  Okay.
[01:22:33.080 --> 01:22:35.080]  Where would I find that information, Mike?
[01:22:35.080 --> 01:22:41.080]  You would have to look at the plethora of documents they gave you at the time you signed up to become a student.
[01:22:41.080 --> 01:22:42.080]  Okay.
[01:22:42.080 --> 01:22:43.080]  Okay?
[01:22:43.080 --> 01:22:44.080]  Now, they have the authority.
[01:22:44.080 --> 01:22:48.080]  But that being said, for them to do what they did with your automobile,
[01:22:48.080 --> 01:22:53.080]  they have taken private property without, okay, due process of law.
[01:22:53.080 --> 01:22:54.080]  Right.
[01:22:54.080 --> 01:22:55.080]  That's illegal.
[01:22:55.080 --> 01:22:57.080]  It is unconstitutional.
[01:22:57.080 --> 01:22:58.080]  Okay.
[01:22:58.080 --> 01:23:06.080]  In every way, shape, and form, you have a right to know the nature of the charge against you and to have a copy thereof.
[01:23:06.080 --> 01:23:08.080]  That's straight out of the state constitution.
[01:23:08.080 --> 01:23:09.080]  Okay.
[01:23:09.080 --> 01:23:11.080]  And to be faced by your accuser.
[01:23:11.080 --> 01:23:12.080]  That's right.
[01:23:12.080 --> 01:23:13.080]  Exactly.
[01:23:13.080 --> 01:23:23.080]  So you have every right to know who the officer is, you have every right to see the actual law that constitutes the charge against you and to know the elements thereof.
[01:23:23.080 --> 01:23:24.080]  Right.
[01:23:24.080 --> 01:23:36.080]  Their failure to produce this and their attempt to tell you that they have seen multiple automobiles bearing your little pass there shows that they know they've stepped on a landmine.
[01:23:36.080 --> 01:23:37.080]  Right.
[01:23:37.080 --> 01:23:47.080]  And that's why I'm in trouble because now they're trying to cover their tracks and, I mean, do I pay the ticket or do I demand open appeals, which they say they don't do?
[01:23:47.080 --> 01:23:50.080]  I mean, what is my next step to?
[01:23:50.080 --> 01:23:52.080]  Your next step is to go to the dean.
[01:23:52.080 --> 01:24:00.080]  And you go to the dean with a list of criminal complaints in your hand to let him know that you are on your way to the local police department to file them.
[01:24:00.080 --> 01:24:04.080]  And you take the dean and give the dean a tort letter.
[01:24:04.080 --> 01:24:05.080]  Okay.
[01:24:04.080 --> 01:24:05.080]  Yeah.
[01:24:05.080 --> 01:24:21.080]  You give him a tort letter made out to him in the school that your employees have illegally seized private property and have violated my protected rights in regards to that property and my due process.
[01:24:21.080 --> 01:24:22.080]  Okay.
[01:24:22.080 --> 01:24:23.080]  I really appreciate it.
[01:24:23.080 --> 01:24:36.080]  I do not have a backbone and I'm really scared just to be in this kind of trouble when I'm completely innocent and listening to your show helps me want to fight them and just not let this kind of stuff happen.
[01:24:36.080 --> 01:24:38.080]  Well, understand something, okay?
[01:24:38.080 --> 01:24:44.080]  There is always the problem of it's never a good time to grow a backbone.
[01:24:44.080 --> 01:24:45.080]  Right.
[01:24:45.080 --> 01:24:46.080]  Okay?
[01:24:46.080 --> 01:24:49.080]  That problem is going to always exist.
[01:24:49.080 --> 01:24:50.080]  Right.
[01:24:50.080 --> 01:25:02.080]  Now, even if you stand up for yourself, there is the possibility, even the probability, they are going to attempt to do worse to you to make you wish to be somewhere else.
[01:25:02.080 --> 01:25:03.080]  That's what I'm worried about.
[01:25:03.080 --> 01:25:04.080]  Exactly.
[01:25:04.080 --> 01:25:05.080]  Okay.
[01:25:05.080 --> 01:25:09.080]  The problem is if you're going to grow a backbone, grow a big one.
[01:25:09.080 --> 01:25:10.080]  Right.
[01:25:10.080 --> 01:25:11.080]  Okay.
[01:25:11.080 --> 01:25:12.080]  All right?
[01:25:12.080 --> 01:25:13.080]  Right.
[01:25:13.080 --> 01:25:24.080]  They didn't wish you away from your rights. That's how we got to where we are as people giving in because they were pushed and they didn't wish to fight back as hard as it would require.
[01:25:24.080 --> 01:25:43.080]  And once I make the first accusation, anybody says anything to me I don't like, anybody does anything to me I can construe as threatening in any way, I blame the first one for sending him after me.
[01:25:43.080 --> 01:25:44.080]  Right.
[01:25:44.080 --> 01:26:00.080]  So if you file against whoever the chief is for establishing this policy and accuse whoever told you they saw two, they had evidence of two cars there with stickers on it, charge them with aggravated perjury.
[01:26:00.080 --> 01:26:01.080]  Okay.
[01:26:01.080 --> 01:26:21.080]  Go straight to the chief, then go to the dean of students or the president of the university, and then if anybody gives you even the least bit of trouble, go straight to the president of the university and accuse him of sending that person out to intimidate a witness.
[01:26:21.080 --> 01:26:22.080]  Okay.
[01:26:22.080 --> 01:26:28.080]  And the president of the university is going to go down there stomping his feet all the way wanting to know who's getting him in trouble.
[01:26:28.080 --> 01:26:29.080]  Okay.
[01:26:29.080 --> 01:26:44.080]  Now here's the other thing, if these campus police are armed, which I'm sure they are, the next time one encounters you for any reason to issue you a ticket or become a problem child because of your fighting back.
[01:26:44.080 --> 01:26:45.080]  Right.
[01:26:45.080 --> 01:26:52.080]  Then you immediately assess that officer for aggravated assault if he even so much as breeze heavy in your direction.
[01:26:52.080 --> 01:26:53.080]  Okay.
[01:26:53.080 --> 01:27:03.080]  Now here's the other thing, my golden rule, if you don't have one, you go somewhere and you get you a little digital pocket recorder.
[01:27:03.080 --> 01:27:04.080]  Okay.
[01:27:04.080 --> 01:27:07.080]  You keep it with you at all times.
[01:27:07.080 --> 01:27:20.080]  Any time you are communicating with a school official from this point forward, I don't care if it's the teacher in class, you keep that recorder on and recording.
[01:27:20.080 --> 01:27:21.080]  Okay.
[01:27:21.080 --> 01:27:26.080]  Because you never know who's going to approach you or who has been tasked to approach you.
[01:27:26.080 --> 01:27:27.080]  Right.
[01:27:27.080 --> 01:27:32.080]  And to try to convince you of this, that or the other or to threaten you about this, that or the other.
[01:27:32.080 --> 01:27:33.080]  Right.
[01:27:33.080 --> 01:27:38.080]  And what might be a good idea if you think they'll object to the recording, carry two.
[01:27:38.080 --> 01:27:40.080]  Oh, that would be good.
[01:27:40.080 --> 01:27:41.080]  Well, they threatened me today.
[01:27:41.080 --> 01:27:48.080]  They're like, well, we have DVDs and cameras everywhere and I'm like, use them because I want to see my evidence.
[01:27:48.080 --> 01:27:53.080]  You just said you had two pictures of both cars and I want to see it and they don't have it.
[01:27:53.080 --> 01:28:00.080]  Put in an open records request for all of their videotapes of whichever cameras that you're interested in.
[01:28:00.080 --> 01:28:07.080]  So it's not illegal to make a copy as long as you don't alter or do anything to that copy.
[01:28:07.080 --> 01:28:09.080]  It's not necessarily illegal.
[01:28:09.080 --> 01:28:17.080]  Not unless they're a state school and they're basing it on a state law that specifically prohibits the copy.
[01:28:17.080 --> 01:28:21.080]  Well, she said that it was illegal to do it for improper purposes.
[01:28:21.080 --> 01:28:25.080]  Well, that's what the school police department says.
[01:28:25.080 --> 01:28:28.080]  But as always, we know they haven't read what it says.
[01:28:28.080 --> 01:28:30.080]  They just make it up as they go along.
[01:28:30.080 --> 01:28:32.080]  I'm going to bet there's not one at all.
[01:28:32.080 --> 01:28:33.080]  Well, so would I.
[01:28:33.080 --> 01:28:40.080]  But in the off chance that there is, you have the right to know specifically what statute or school memorandum
[01:28:40.080 --> 01:28:46.080]  or police department policy put this in place and to have a copy of it.
[01:28:46.080 --> 01:28:48.080]  That's what's called nature in courts.
[01:28:48.080 --> 01:28:54.080]  And see, I'm guessing that this whole thing is actually a civil matter, not a criminal matter.
[01:28:54.080 --> 01:29:03.080]  And the fact that they booted your car over a civil matter puts them in a very, very bad place.
[01:29:03.080 --> 01:29:07.080]  And that's why they're not wanting to answer your questions.
[01:29:07.080 --> 01:29:13.080]  Because I think that if you really uncover what's going on here, this is not a criminal matter.
[01:29:13.080 --> 01:29:16.080]  It's a civil matter. They can't boot your car over a civil matter.
[01:29:16.080 --> 01:29:19.080]  Yeah. Let me give you an idea how you can sting them.
[01:29:19.080 --> 01:29:20.080]  Okay.
[01:29:20.080 --> 01:29:23.080]  They arrested me in March over some warrants out of Cherokee County.
[01:29:23.080 --> 01:29:25.080]  I finally got those cleared.
[01:29:25.080 --> 01:29:33.080]  But one of the officers took out of my wallet a key that looked like a handcuff key, and she kept it.
[01:29:33.080 --> 01:29:38.080]  I filed criminal charges against her today with a judge.
[01:29:38.080 --> 01:29:40.080]  Oh, that's going to be a hoot.
[01:29:40.080 --> 01:29:41.080]  Oh, that is. That is.
[01:29:41.080 --> 01:29:44.080]  I appreciate the show so much. I love it. Thank you so much.
[01:29:44.080 --> 01:29:45.080]  All right. Thank you, Brandy.
[01:29:45.080 --> 01:29:46.080]  Thank you. Bye-bye.
[01:29:46.080 --> 01:29:52.080]  Bye. Call back in, Brandy, and let us know how it goes or if you need any more help.
[01:29:52.080 --> 01:29:59.080]  All right, callers, we have open phone lines 512-646-1984. We'll be right back.
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[01:31:01.080 --> 01:31:03.080]  Yeah, who you want to chip?
[01:31:03.080 --> 01:31:04.080]  Who you take me for?
[01:31:04.080 --> 01:31:05.080]  Free Tolly.
[01:31:05.080 --> 01:31:06.080]  Who you want to chip?
[01:31:06.080 --> 01:31:07.080]  Me no free Tolly.
[01:31:07.080 --> 01:31:08.080]  You can't chip me.
[01:31:08.080 --> 01:31:10.080]  Homicide.
[01:31:10.080 --> 01:31:12.080]  Don't let them chip you in the morning.
[01:31:12.080 --> 01:31:13.080]  Chip you in the evening.
[01:31:13.080 --> 01:31:15.080]  Put a chip in your body.
[01:31:15.080 --> 01:31:20.080]  And then when you go computer reading, you can't hide me from nobody.
[01:31:20.080 --> 01:31:23.080]  But me say, chip in your mom, chip in your daddy.
[01:31:23.080 --> 01:31:25.080]  Chip in your grandpa and the granny.
[01:31:25.080 --> 01:31:28.080]  Chip in me, chip in your baby.
[01:31:28.080 --> 01:31:30.080]  Chip in your family, your whole family.
[01:31:30.080 --> 01:31:33.080]  Chip in your dog and the cat around me.
[01:31:33.080 --> 01:31:35.080]  Chip in the beef and you still go eat it.
[01:31:35.080 --> 01:31:38.080]  Chip in the fish, them all in the sea.
[01:31:38.080 --> 01:31:40.080]  Chip in the shark and the whale around me.
[01:31:40.080 --> 01:31:42.080]  You know, see mankind gone chip crazy.
[01:31:42.080 --> 01:31:45.080]  They're taking the thing, man, they want to read it.
[01:31:45.080 --> 01:31:47.080]  Social security, they've got to tell me.
[01:31:47.080 --> 01:31:50.080]  Number with them, give me, then repeat what you see.
[01:31:50.080 --> 01:31:51.080]  Chip you in the morning.
[01:31:51.080 --> 01:31:52.080]  Chip you in the evening.
[01:31:52.080 --> 01:31:54.080]  Chip you all the dinner time.
[01:31:54.080 --> 01:31:56.080]  Experiment on mankind.
[01:31:56.080 --> 01:31:59.080]  But man, you know, say them lies.
[01:31:59.080 --> 01:32:02.080]  Well, we don't want no chip, man, you have your body.
[01:32:02.080 --> 01:32:04.080]  Freedom or something, man, you fight for it.
[01:32:04.080 --> 01:32:07.080]  You should tell them, then we read it.
[01:32:07.080 --> 01:32:09.080]  Constitution set us free.
[01:32:09.080 --> 01:32:11.080]  Don't let them put no chip in your body.
[01:32:11.080 --> 01:32:14.080]  Put no chip in your dog or cat, you see.
[01:32:14.080 --> 01:32:16.080]  Don't put no chip in your cow and go eat it.
[01:32:16.080 --> 01:32:19.080]  Don't put no chip in the fish and go eat it.
[01:32:19.080 --> 01:32:24.080]  Okay, callers, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
[01:32:24.080 --> 01:32:28.080]  We were just discussing Brandy's situation a little bit on the break.
[01:32:28.080 --> 01:32:32.080]  And it is possible that there could be something in the government code
[01:32:32.080 --> 01:32:40.080]  or the education code or something like that regarding carpool permits,
[01:32:40.080 --> 01:32:45.080]  which would actually be a state law, some kind of state, you know, statute here
[01:32:45.080 --> 01:32:49.080]  where there's a potential alleged violation.
[01:32:49.080 --> 01:32:54.080]  But I don't think so.
[01:32:54.080 --> 01:32:55.080]  I don't think so.
[01:32:55.080 --> 01:32:57.080]  I think that this is a civil matter.
[01:32:57.080 --> 01:33:03.080]  I think that this is a matter of, you know, a contract that she signed
[01:33:03.080 --> 01:33:07.080]  with the university at the beginning that's in her paper somewhere,
[01:33:07.080 --> 01:33:11.080]  or, you know, whenever she applied for this permit.
[01:33:11.080 --> 01:33:16.080]  I have a feeling this is strictly a civil matter on a, you know, matters of a contract
[01:33:16.080 --> 01:33:21.080]  and that they're trying to use criminal enforcement methods such as booting the car
[01:33:21.080 --> 01:33:27.080]  to force her to pay a fine for a potential contractual violation
[01:33:27.080 --> 01:33:31.080]  that they can't even prove there's a violation of the contract.
[01:33:31.080 --> 01:33:32.080]  And it's just strictly revenue scheme.
[01:33:32.080 --> 01:33:34.080]  That's what I think is really going on.
[01:33:34.080 --> 01:33:38.080]  And that's why she needs to find out, she needs to demand from these campus police
[01:33:38.080 --> 01:33:41.080]  to show her the law.
[01:33:41.080 --> 01:33:43.080]  Where is the law?
[01:33:43.080 --> 01:33:44.080]  Is it in government code?
[01:33:44.080 --> 01:33:45.080]  Is it in the transportation code?
[01:33:45.080 --> 01:33:47.080]  Guaranteed it's not in the transportation code.
[01:33:47.080 --> 01:33:49.080]  Guaranteed it's not in the penal code.
[01:33:49.080 --> 01:33:52.080]  Guaranteed it's not in the code of criminal procedure.
[01:33:52.080 --> 01:33:54.080]  We already know all those.
[01:33:54.080 --> 01:33:57.080]  Could maybe be in the education code or the government code,
[01:33:57.080 --> 01:34:00.080]  but I say it's highly unlikely.
[01:34:00.080 --> 01:34:01.080]  Yeah.
[01:34:01.080 --> 01:34:06.080]  Now, the thing about the criminal complaints part is to file these,
[01:34:06.080 --> 01:34:08.080]  you have to remember if this is a state school,
[01:34:08.080 --> 01:34:10.080]  these are going to be state-funded police officers.
[01:34:10.080 --> 01:34:13.080]  So the municipal police will have no authority over them.
[01:34:13.080 --> 01:34:17.080]  You would have to file your criminal complaints with the sheriff's department.
[01:34:17.080 --> 01:34:20.080]  The schools in his county, he has authority,
[01:34:20.080 --> 01:34:24.080]  but you'll want to give copies of those criminal complaints
[01:34:24.080 --> 01:34:27.080]  to the dean slash president of the university.
[01:34:27.080 --> 01:34:31.080]  But you file the criminal complaints with the sheriff's department.
[01:34:31.080 --> 01:34:34.080]  Don't try to file them with the municipal police department
[01:34:34.080 --> 01:34:37.080]  because they won't have any authority on the state property,
[01:34:37.080 --> 01:34:41.080]  whereas the sheriff will because that property is within his county.
[01:34:41.080 --> 01:34:47.080]  And a weakness the school has, Texas Education Agency,
[01:34:47.080 --> 01:34:54.080]  you start making complaints to them, the school is going to get real excited.
[01:34:54.080 --> 01:34:58.080]  That's one of their weaknesses.
[01:34:58.080 --> 01:35:04.080]  So do some research on that to see if the statute actually exists as a statute.
[01:35:04.080 --> 01:35:07.080]  That's not going to take long at all.
[01:35:07.080 --> 01:35:12.080]  A couple of searches on TEA rules and regulations
[01:35:12.080 --> 01:35:17.080]  and the university's rules and regulations, it's not going to take much.
[01:35:17.080 --> 01:35:20.080]  It's almost certain this is civil.
[01:35:20.080 --> 01:35:26.080]  Yeah, hopefully, Brandy, you're going to grow up to be a law student.
[01:35:26.080 --> 01:35:31.080]  Yeah, that's why I was thinking the tort letter to the dean is actually a really good move
[01:35:31.080 --> 01:35:34.080]  because they know this is civil anyway.
[01:35:34.080 --> 01:35:38.080]  And threatening them with a civil lawsuit, it's going to really get them.
[01:35:38.080 --> 01:35:41.080]  They're not going to want this little secret exposed.
[01:35:41.080 --> 01:35:46.080]  But, Brandy, if you just get online and look up the Texas Government Code
[01:35:46.080 --> 01:35:49.080]  and the Texas Education Code, you could probably do some searches.
[01:35:49.080 --> 01:35:53.080]  You may have to get an online PDF doc, download the PDF document,
[01:35:53.080 --> 01:35:57.080]  or you get it in an HTML format or whatever and just click through the pages.
[01:35:57.080 --> 01:36:06.080]  Do a search for carpool, the word carpool, in those codes and see if you can find anything
[01:36:06.080 --> 01:36:08.080]  because I seriously doubt you're going to find anything.
[01:36:08.080 --> 01:36:12.080]  I seriously doubt this is any kind of violation of state law whatsoever.
[01:36:12.080 --> 01:36:13.080]  It's got to be civil.
[01:36:13.080 --> 01:36:14.080]  Nothing else makes any sense.
[01:36:14.080 --> 01:36:28.080]  Can you imagine the state legislature convening and passing a law on photocopying your carpool tournament
[01:36:28.080 --> 01:36:30.080]  at a state college?
[01:36:30.080 --> 01:36:31.080]  I don't think so.
[01:36:31.080 --> 01:36:33.080]  Not even going to happen.
[01:36:33.080 --> 01:36:34.080]  Not likely at all.
[01:36:34.080 --> 01:36:43.080]  Very highly, highly unlikely that this is actually a violation of any law whatsoever.
[01:36:43.080 --> 01:36:45.080]  It has to be civil.
[01:36:45.080 --> 01:36:51.080]  And for them to boot your car over civil matter, that's just criminal.
[01:36:51.080 --> 01:36:53.080]  That is the crime right there.
[01:36:53.080 --> 01:36:58.080]  Yes, and I got a Skype asking me, where does she file?
[01:36:58.080 --> 01:36:59.080]  This is even better.
[01:36:59.080 --> 01:37:02.080]  She files with the JP.
[01:37:02.080 --> 01:37:07.080]  Since the state has subject matter jurisdiction, not the municipality,
[01:37:07.080 --> 01:37:10.080]  then the complaints would go to the justice and the peace.
[01:37:10.080 --> 01:37:13.080]  Why would the state have jurisdiction, not the municipality?
[01:37:13.080 --> 01:37:16.080]  Because it is a state facility.
[01:37:16.080 --> 01:37:21.080]  That was in Randall County, and I called the police on the police,
[01:37:21.080 --> 01:37:26.080]  and they sent a Canyon City police officer.
[01:37:26.080 --> 01:37:29.080]  And when he got there, I said, what the heck is he sending you for?
[01:37:29.080 --> 01:37:30.080]  This is a state building.
[01:37:30.080 --> 01:37:32.080]  You don't have any jurisdiction in here.
[01:37:32.080 --> 01:37:39.080]  Kind of like when they sent the Round Rock police to drag you out of the Williamson County Courthouse.
[01:37:39.080 --> 01:37:40.080]  Same kind of thing.
[01:37:40.080 --> 01:37:41.080]  Exactly.
[01:37:41.080 --> 01:37:43.080]  They have no jurisdiction inside there.
[01:37:43.080 --> 01:37:44.080]  Right.
[01:37:44.080 --> 01:37:45.080]  It had to have been the state police.
[01:37:45.080 --> 01:37:47.080]  The only ones that will have jurisdiction on that.
[01:37:47.080 --> 01:37:53.080]  The municipal police may have some concurrent jurisdiction,
[01:37:53.080 --> 01:37:58.080]  but even so, the municipal court won't.
[01:37:58.080 --> 01:38:01.080]  If they come onto that state property and write a citation,
[01:38:01.080 --> 01:38:03.080]  it won't go to the city of Austin.
[01:38:03.080 --> 01:38:10.080]  It will go to the Justice of the Peace.
[01:38:10.080 --> 01:38:15.080]  So Justice of the Peace of Hays County is where she would go.
[01:38:15.080 --> 01:38:16.080]  Oh, she's in Hays County?
[01:38:16.080 --> 01:38:17.080]  Yeah.
[01:38:17.080 --> 01:38:18.080]  Oh.
[01:38:18.080 --> 01:38:23.080]  Yeah, but again, the Justice of the Peace only has jurisdiction in civil matters of $200 or less,
[01:38:23.080 --> 01:38:28.080]  and it can't be in any criminal matter for which it's punishable by anything other than a fine.
[01:38:28.080 --> 01:38:30.080]  Well, that's all this is.
[01:38:30.080 --> 01:38:35.080]  No, they seized property that immediately removed it from the jurisdiction of the Justice of the Peace.
[01:38:35.080 --> 01:38:36.080]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:38:36.080 --> 01:38:38.080]  No, no, no, no, it doesn't because they commit...
[01:38:38.080 --> 01:38:44.080]  Okay, a Justice of the Peace can take a criminal complaint for anything.
[01:38:44.080 --> 01:38:45.080]  Yes, he can.
[01:38:45.080 --> 01:38:46.080]  Not arguing that one.
[01:38:46.080 --> 01:38:51.080]  He doesn't have to have jurisdiction, but that's where she would take the complaint to.
[01:38:51.080 --> 01:38:58.080]  Right, but I was referring to the issue of you saying if they issued a ticket that it would go over to the JP
[01:38:58.080 --> 01:39:00.080]  if the municipal cops issued a ticket.
[01:39:00.080 --> 01:39:05.080]  Well, I honestly don't believe the municipal cops have the authority to issue a citation
[01:39:05.080 --> 01:39:07.080]  requiring you to go to a Justice of the Peace.
[01:39:07.080 --> 01:39:11.080]  No, I think Brandy was talking about going to the JP to file criminal complaints
[01:39:11.080 --> 01:39:14.080]  against these scallywags that booted a car.
[01:39:14.080 --> 01:39:16.080]  Yeah, see, this is state property.
[01:39:16.080 --> 01:39:21.080]  No, the municipal police don't have...if they cited you...
[01:39:21.080 --> 01:39:25.080]  Now, wait a minute, it's not who they are, but where they are.
[01:39:25.080 --> 01:39:26.080]  Right.
[01:39:26.080 --> 01:39:31.080]  If they cite you on state property, it is the Justice of the Peace that has venue,
[01:39:31.080 --> 01:39:32.080]  not the municipal court.
[01:39:32.080 --> 01:39:33.080]  Right.
[01:39:33.080 --> 01:39:35.080]  It doesn't matter who writes the citation.
[01:39:35.080 --> 01:39:39.080]  Well, but the thing is they wouldn't have any authority to enforce there.
[01:39:39.080 --> 01:39:41.080]  Of course they can.
[01:39:41.080 --> 01:39:45.080]  They can have concurrent jurisdiction.
[01:39:45.080 --> 01:39:52.080]  It's just like the county has concurrent jurisdiction with the municipal police in the city,
[01:39:52.080 --> 01:39:57.080]  but if the county writes you a ticket, it goes to the JP, not to the municipal.
[01:39:57.080 --> 01:40:02.080]  Well, also granted, but the reason for that is one exists inside the other,
[01:40:02.080 --> 01:40:04.080]  not the other way around.
[01:40:04.080 --> 01:40:08.080]  Technically speaking, the jurisdiction of a municipal police officer stops at the city limits.
[01:40:08.080 --> 01:40:15.080]  Well, yeah, but see, where is the university?
[01:40:15.080 --> 01:40:17.080]  It's in San Marcos.
[01:40:17.080 --> 01:40:22.080]  If it's in the city limits, then that argument doesn't apply.
[01:40:22.080 --> 01:40:23.080]  Well, sure it would.
[01:40:23.080 --> 01:40:25.080]  It's just like a military installation.
[01:40:25.080 --> 01:40:27.080]  A military installation may be within city limits,
[01:40:27.080 --> 01:40:31.080]  but it's off limits to the municipal cops as far as enforcement.
[01:40:31.080 --> 01:40:33.080]  Not necessarily.
[01:40:33.080 --> 01:40:39.080]  If the federal government's been given exclusive jurisdiction, yes it is.
[01:40:39.080 --> 01:40:44.080]  If the property has been seceded to the government, but otherwise they would have jurisdiction.
[01:40:44.080 --> 01:40:45.080]  Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:40:45.080 --> 01:40:47.080]  This is a state university.
[01:40:47.080 --> 01:40:48.080]  It's state property.
[01:40:48.080 --> 01:40:55.080]  Yeah, but that doesn't mean the city doesn't have concurrent jurisdiction.
[01:40:55.080 --> 01:40:57.080]  They can have concurrent jurisdiction.
[01:40:57.080 --> 01:41:02.080]  If they have a riot or something, they can call in the city police.
[01:41:02.080 --> 01:41:05.080]  They would have the same jurisdiction in force law.
[01:41:05.080 --> 01:41:13.080]  Actually, they've extended the authority of police officers to exercise their authority throughout the state.
[01:41:13.080 --> 01:41:17.080]  At this point, a policeman can exercise authority no matter where he is.
[01:41:17.080 --> 01:41:18.080]  Says who? Says what?
[01:41:18.080 --> 01:41:21.080]  This was the last legislature.
[01:41:21.080 --> 01:41:23.080]  I want to see that in writing.
[01:41:23.080 --> 01:41:27.080]  I had a concern with it, but they passed it.
[01:41:27.080 --> 01:41:34.080]  However, if a policeman's outside his jurisdiction and he sees a crime being committed, he can act.
[01:41:34.080 --> 01:41:38.080]  But the venue is where the crime was committed.
[01:41:38.080 --> 01:41:50.080]  So if a municipal police officer is on the state property, then the justice of the peace would have venue, not the municipal court.
[01:41:50.080 --> 01:41:57.080]  But that's the only real difference.
[01:41:57.080 --> 01:42:00.080]  It's not that big a deal.
[01:42:00.080 --> 01:42:09.080]  But she would file with the justice of the peace if she filed complaints unless they were...
[01:42:09.080 --> 01:42:11.080]  Well, actually, justice is generally the best place anyway.
[01:42:11.080 --> 01:42:13.080]  Unless she wants to go to the district attorney.
[01:42:13.080 --> 01:42:22.080]  Yeah, she could go directly to the district attorney and their public officials and district attorney has no discretion.
[01:42:22.080 --> 01:42:27.080]  That would be a lot more fun.
[01:42:27.080 --> 01:42:39.080]  It's about, it really don't matter that much where you go, when you start making noises to people that are outside the control of the police department
[01:42:39.080 --> 01:42:48.080]  and they get blowback coming back to them from outside their department, whoever caused the blowback is going to be in trouble.
[01:42:48.080 --> 01:42:55.080]  I would go to the district attorney myself just because all those cops are afraid of the DA and they're probably not that afraid of the JP.
[01:42:55.080 --> 01:42:57.080]  Yeah, they are.
[01:42:57.080 --> 01:43:01.080]  Not from what I've seen, but they are much more afraid of the DA.
[01:43:01.080 --> 01:43:03.080]  Yeah, they're definitely afraid of the DA.
[01:43:03.080 --> 01:43:07.080]  I mean, why pussyfoot around? Just go straight to the top.
[01:43:07.080 --> 01:43:09.080]  I agree. I agree.
[01:43:09.080 --> 01:43:15.080]  If that don't work, bushwhack a district judge in his courtroom.
[01:43:15.080 --> 01:43:23.080]  Give it to a district judge and when he refuses to take it, take criminal complaints against a district judge to the district attorney
[01:43:23.080 --> 01:43:29.080]  because the district attorney didn't have this officer arrested, that'll really get their attention.
[01:43:29.080 --> 01:43:34.080]  Okay, we've got three more callers we probably need to...
[01:43:34.080 --> 01:43:38.080]  Yes, we've got Mark from Wisconsin coming up next and then Julio.
[01:43:38.080 --> 01:43:46.080]  So Mark, you're up next right on the other side of the break for our final segment coming into the homestretch here on the rule of law.
[01:43:46.080 --> 01:44:07.080]  We'll be right back, folks.
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[01:45:08.080 --> 01:45:22.080]  Hello. Oh man, in jail. You got busted, man. Oh man, I'm broke, man.
[01:45:22.080 --> 01:45:39.080]  Some things in this world I will never understand. Some things I realize fully. Somebody's gonna police that policeman. Somebody's gonna police the police.
[01:45:39.080 --> 01:45:52.080]  There's always a room at the top of the hill. I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely there too. They're wishing it was more than opposition to fail.
[01:45:52.080 --> 01:46:13.080]  They know that if they don't do it, somebody will. Some things in this world I will never understand. Some things I realize fully. Somebody's gonna police that policeman. Somebody's gonna police the police.
[01:46:13.080 --> 01:46:36.080]  I know they will. Yeah, they're gonna put the bill. I know they will. Cause I don't see so much in God's distilled. I know they will. Never fail to tip back the scale. I know they will. Never fail to tip back the scale. I know they will.
[01:46:36.080 --> 01:46:44.080]  Okay, we are back, folks. We got Mark from Wisconsin. Mark, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[01:46:44.080 --> 01:46:48.080]  Good evening. How are you, everyone? Pretty good.
[01:46:48.080 --> 01:47:06.080]  Hey, I had a question for Randy. I was wondering how is Marty's fraud business is going. Randy, do you write complaints because I got a guy who's got like 14 violations and he doesn't really want to go through an attorney because they cost so much.
[01:47:06.080 --> 01:47:16.080]  And he's wondering if you knew of anybody or if you do know of anybody who will write a complaint for someone who's similarly situated.
[01:47:16.080 --> 01:47:27.080]  Wait a minute. I missed that. You were talking fraud. What's the nature of the complaints?
[01:47:27.080 --> 01:47:30.080]  There's HOPA, RESPA and all that.
[01:47:30.080 --> 01:47:45.080]  Oh, okay. You don't exactly write HOPA, RESPA complaints. What's the situation on his mortgage? Is he in foreclosure?
[01:47:45.080 --> 01:47:48.080]  Yeah, he is, but they haven't filed with the court yet.
[01:47:48.080 --> 01:47:51.080]  Okay, so they've accelerated the note?
[01:47:51.080 --> 01:47:52.080]  Yes.
[01:47:52.080 --> 01:48:11.080]  Okay. If he's going into foreclosure, the first thing he needs to do is get in a qualified written request. In order for it to be a qualified written request, it must state errors in accounting and require that they repair the errors in accounting.
[01:48:11.080 --> 01:48:26.080]  What I suggest that he does is go to his HUD-1 settlement statement and list every one of the fees on that HUD-1 settlement statement and tell them, guys, I think all these are bogus.
[01:48:26.080 --> 01:48:43.080]  And the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act prescribes that you show documentation at closing to verify that each one of these fees are valid in accordance with the consumer protection laws.
[01:48:43.080 --> 01:48:49.080]  You didn't do that. So prove them up. Fail to prove one up, take it off the head of the note.
[01:48:49.080 --> 01:48:55.080]  Well, here's the problem. They can prove some of them up, but not all of them.
[01:48:55.080 --> 01:49:06.080]  So if they prove up one and don't prove up the rest, it creates an adverse influence that the others are bogus.
[01:49:06.080 --> 01:49:09.080]  So they won't prove up any of them.
[01:49:09.080 --> 01:49:25.080]  And then you come back with a claim claiming that they're all fraud. Take them off the head of the note, run the note without that amount on there, and see what the difference is in the amount you will pay over the life of the note.
[01:49:25.080 --> 01:49:42.080]  And the way you do that is you calculate as if you were paying what's on the Truth in Lending Statement, what your normal payment is. You pay that, calculate if you pay that for 30 years as opposed to what you should be paying.
[01:49:42.080 --> 01:49:59.080]  Like one note I did was $48 over. So I took $48 off the head of the note each payment off the principal. And a $118,000 note, he would have overpaid $44,000.
[01:49:59.080 --> 01:50:05.080]  So you take that fee off the head of the note and reduce the principal. Your payment amount should reduce.
[01:50:05.080 --> 01:50:19.080]  But you're still paying the higher amount. Take the balance off the principal. Makes a big difference. Claim that full amount for fraud. Now you go in and sue him for that amount. Now you have something to work with.
[01:50:19.080 --> 01:50:24.080]  So you don't think they'll just try and bushwhack me as soon as I file the QWR?
[01:50:24.080 --> 01:50:37.080]  Oh, who cares? Okay, if you do QWRI, make sure you ask for the note. Pull out Uniform Commercial Code 3-501.
[01:50:37.080 --> 01:50:51.080]  It says that a lender, when he requests payment, if the borrower demands that he produce the note, he must produce the note. And it prescribes how he's to produce it.
[01:50:51.080 --> 01:50:57.080]  He doesn't have to give you the original, but he has to make it available for you to inspect it. And he can do that in his office.
[01:50:57.080 --> 01:51:05.080]  If he fails to do so, the borrower may cease all payment without dishonor.
[01:51:05.080 --> 01:51:09.080]  That means he's stopped from collecting until he produces the note.
[01:51:09.080 --> 01:51:18.080]  If that's in there, you put that in the qualified written request, then they're going to say you're not allowed to request this in the qualified written request.
[01:51:18.080 --> 01:51:32.080]  Then just treat it as a polite letter. You have the right to make the request under 3-501. They will ignore it.
[01:51:32.080 --> 01:51:42.080]  Then you get to claim that all their collection activities subsequent to that are stopped by 3-501.
[01:51:42.080 --> 01:51:48.080]  And when you send in the qualified written request, demand that they prove up all these fees or rescind the note.
[01:51:48.080 --> 01:51:54.080]  They won't prove up the fees. They'll send you back into a letter saying that all their fees are just fine and perfect.
[01:51:54.080 --> 01:52:00.080]  And we deny rescindion. They don't have authority to deny rescindion.
[01:52:00.080 --> 01:52:10.080]  So you presume that rescindion is a matter of law, and the note was rescinded when they sent you back the bogus answer.
[01:52:10.080 --> 01:52:18.080]  They've got 20 days after rescindion to recover their property or the lender may retain the property with no further obligation.
[01:52:18.080 --> 01:52:21.080]  Okay. And I just have to jump in here. We have less than six minutes.
[01:52:21.080 --> 01:52:21.080]  Okay.
[01:52:21.080 --> 01:52:27.080]  Maybe we should get into the whole mortgage thing tomorrow night because we've got three other callers on the board.
[01:52:27.080 --> 01:52:29.080]  I saw six minutes. I was about to close that.
[01:52:29.080 --> 01:52:34.080]  Okay. That's okay. But I didn't know what was going on, and I just had to make that announcement.
[01:52:34.080 --> 01:52:38.080]  I mean, I'm doing everything I can to make everyone happy here.
[01:52:38.080 --> 01:52:43.080]  Oh, that's cool. Hey, Randy, you want to call me tonight or tomorrow?
[01:52:43.080 --> 01:52:48.080]  Yeah. Why don't you give me a call? Sometimes I get tied up and I forget.
[01:52:48.080 --> 01:52:52.080]  Yeah. And we can talk about this mortgage stuff tomorrow night on the air too.
[01:52:52.080 --> 01:52:53.080]  Okay.
[01:52:53.080 --> 01:52:55.080]  Just call me sometime during the day tomorrow.
[01:52:55.080 --> 01:52:56.080]  All right. Thanks.
[01:52:56.080 --> 01:52:58.080]  Okay. Great. Thanks, Mark.
[01:52:58.080 --> 01:53:05.080]  Okay. We're jumping now to Julio in Austin. Julio, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight? Quickly.
[01:53:05.080 --> 01:53:12.080]  Well, I have a lawsuit in Laredo over a deposit.
[01:53:12.080 --> 01:53:15.080]  Now, the lawsuit does not mention me by name.
[01:53:15.080 --> 01:53:20.080]  It mentions a friend of mine that collected the rent for me one time.
[01:53:20.080 --> 01:53:23.080]  And they've been logging my friend.
[01:53:23.080 --> 01:53:26.080]  He's going to court twice until I'm not in this contract.
[01:53:26.080 --> 01:53:33.080]  And the judge demands that I write enough with them in saying that he's not my agent.
[01:53:33.080 --> 01:53:39.080]  Well, I cannot ask for this deal because I'm not mentioning any place on that complaint.
[01:53:39.080 --> 01:53:42.080]  What can we do?
[01:53:42.080 --> 01:53:43.080]  What do you want to do?
[01:53:43.080 --> 01:53:49.080]  Do you want to enter as an intervener or do you not want to have anything to do with it?
[01:53:49.080 --> 01:53:51.080]  I don't want to have anything to do with it.
[01:53:51.080 --> 01:53:55.080]  I just want to tell the judge to, you know, take a hike.
[01:53:55.080 --> 01:53:59.080]  Yeah, well, they got a problem. They have to prove he's an agent.
[01:53:59.080 --> 01:54:03.080]  Well, they're looking for 800 bucks and I have the money, but the thing is,
[01:54:03.080 --> 01:54:05.080]  I'm not mentioning this in respect to work.
[01:54:05.080 --> 01:54:10.080]  Why should I pay when my name is not mentioned on this lawsuit?
[01:54:10.080 --> 01:54:16.080]  If the judge tells you to do anything, you should file official oppression charges against him.
[01:54:16.080 --> 01:54:17.080]  Official oppression?
[01:54:17.080 --> 01:54:22.080]  He has no subject matter jurisdiction over you.
[01:54:22.080 --> 01:54:23.080]  Official?
[01:54:23.080 --> 01:54:27.080]  Oppression, 39.03.
[01:54:27.080 --> 01:54:32.080]  39.03, penal code.
[01:54:32.080 --> 01:54:38.080]  If a public official, acting on the call of his authority, denies a citizen full and free access to or enjoyment of any right,
[01:54:38.080 --> 01:54:40.080]  that's Class A misdemeanor in Texas.
[01:54:40.080 --> 01:54:45.080]  Yeah, but Randy always forgets the best one right above that, 39.02.
[01:54:45.080 --> 01:54:53.080]  If they use any public property to commit the act and that public property's value is in excess of $1,500,
[01:54:53.080 --> 01:54:58.080]  that becomes a state jail felony.
[01:54:58.080 --> 01:55:06.080]  And you can honestly say that between his paperclips, writing pads, black robe, chair, office, building he's housed in,
[01:55:06.080 --> 01:55:11.080]  and his paycheck, he exceeded $1,500.
[01:55:11.080 --> 01:55:13.080]  Yep. Yep.
[01:55:13.080 --> 01:55:19.080]  You also mentioned a while back that a justice of the peace cannot make any claims over $200.
[01:55:19.080 --> 01:55:21.080]  What statute is that?
[01:55:21.080 --> 01:55:23.080]  Constitution.
[01:55:23.080 --> 01:55:24.080]  Constitution.
[01:55:24.080 --> 01:55:30.080]  They have statutes that says they can handle up to $10,000, but it doesn't say anything about that in Constitution.
[01:55:30.080 --> 01:55:33.080]  It would take a constitutional amendment to change that.
[01:55:33.080 --> 01:55:34.080]  Okay.
[01:55:34.080 --> 01:55:39.080]  The Constitution says the limit in civil is $200 and not one penny more.
[01:55:39.080 --> 01:55:42.080]  Oh, he ain't going to like my writings.
[01:55:42.080 --> 01:55:47.080]  I'm going to ask for his barn and oak and all this other crap.
[01:55:47.080 --> 01:55:54.080]  Well, now be aware of one other thing in that regard, Julio, and that is that the legislature created two separate courts
[01:55:54.080 --> 01:55:57.080]  to give these people jurisdiction of, allegedly.
[01:55:57.080 --> 01:56:04.080]  The Justice Court, whose limit is $200, and the Small Claims Court, whose limit is $10,000.
[01:56:04.080 --> 01:56:14.080]  The question is, is the limitation to the judge and the court or just to the court under the Constitution?
[01:56:14.080 --> 01:56:22.080]  If it's to the judge and the court, they can't sit on a second position of public emolument,
[01:56:22.080 --> 01:56:29.080]  and they can't sit in jurisdiction of an amount that exceeds their constitutional authority.
[01:56:29.080 --> 01:56:34.080]  So that's an argument that has to be made because it hasn't been made yet.
[01:56:34.080 --> 01:56:35.080]  Okay.
[01:56:35.080 --> 01:56:37.080]  Sounds good.
[01:56:37.080 --> 01:56:41.080]  They could exercise both authorities if they're combined into one office.
[01:56:41.080 --> 01:56:44.080]  But if he gets paid...
[01:56:44.080 --> 01:56:46.080]  And I can e-mail you a copy of this thing.
[01:56:46.080 --> 01:56:49.080]  I don't know if it's mentioned anywhere.
[01:56:49.080 --> 01:56:51.080]  Then you're not a party.
[01:56:51.080 --> 01:56:53.080]  Yeah, I'm not a party to that action.
[01:56:53.080 --> 01:56:58.080]  And the action does not give the court subject matter jurisdiction over you.
[01:56:58.080 --> 01:57:00.080]  That's right.
[01:57:00.080 --> 01:57:02.080]  Julio, you're going to have too much fun with that.
[01:57:02.080 --> 01:57:03.080]  I can tell.
[01:57:03.080 --> 01:57:04.080]  I don't have too much fun.
[01:57:04.080 --> 01:57:06.080]  I can just celebrate right now, man.
[01:57:06.080 --> 01:57:10.080]  I'm just like eating a big steak before it's done, you know?
[01:57:10.080 --> 01:57:11.080]  All right.
[01:57:11.080 --> 01:57:12.080]  Thanks a lot.
[01:57:12.080 --> 01:57:13.080]  We're going to pick you up.
[01:57:13.080 --> 01:57:14.080]  All right.
[01:57:14.080 --> 01:57:15.080]  Thank you, Julio.
[01:57:15.080 --> 01:57:16.080]  Thank you.
[01:57:16.080 --> 01:57:17.080]  All right.
[01:57:17.080 --> 01:57:18.080]  Bye.
[01:57:18.080 --> 01:57:19.080]  Okay.
[01:57:19.080 --> 01:57:20.080]  We're going to Marcus in Virginia.
[01:57:20.080 --> 01:57:21.080]  Marcus, you've barely got one minute.
[01:57:21.080 --> 01:57:22.080]  Sorry.
[01:57:22.080 --> 01:57:23.080]  What do you got on your mind?
[01:57:23.080 --> 01:57:24.080]  Okay.
[01:57:24.080 --> 01:57:27.080]  Just one question.
[01:57:27.080 --> 01:57:35.080]  Is there a particular court rule that allows for the creation of a case file?
[01:57:35.080 --> 01:57:37.080]  I mean, I need to look this up.
[01:57:37.080 --> 01:57:38.080]  I just thought about this today.
[01:57:38.080 --> 01:57:42.080]  So I just was wondering if you knew about this already.
[01:57:42.080 --> 01:57:44.080]  That's a good question.
[01:57:44.080 --> 01:57:45.080]  Eddie?
[01:57:45.080 --> 01:57:48.080]  Well, say the question again.
[01:57:48.080 --> 01:57:53.080]  Is there a particular court rule that allows for the creation of a case file?
[01:57:53.080 --> 01:57:55.080]  A court rule?
[01:57:55.080 --> 01:57:56.080]  Yeah.
[01:57:56.080 --> 01:58:01.080]  Rule, laws, there has to be some offense committed before the court gains jurisdiction.
[01:58:01.080 --> 01:58:02.080]  No, no, no.
[01:58:02.080 --> 01:58:04.080]  How do they create the court file?
[01:58:04.080 --> 01:58:05.080]  I don't think that's in law.
[01:58:05.080 --> 01:58:08.080]  I think that's just done by common law.
[01:58:08.080 --> 01:58:09.080]  Yeah, it is, too.
[01:58:09.080 --> 01:58:12.080]  It tells the clerk to establish a method of keeping records.
[01:58:12.080 --> 01:58:14.080]  But it doesn't prescribe it.
[01:58:14.080 --> 01:58:16.080]  It doesn't have to.
[01:58:16.080 --> 01:58:19.080]  It just tells the clerk to come up with one.
[01:58:19.080 --> 01:58:21.080]  Well, I just want the court rule.
[01:58:21.080 --> 01:58:22.080]  I'm not going to law yet.
[01:58:22.080 --> 01:58:24.080]  Yeah, that's not going to be a court rule.
[01:58:24.080 --> 01:58:29.080]  It can't be a court rule because state law already stipulates this is how it's done
[01:58:29.080 --> 01:58:32.080]  except for some provisions of local rules.
[01:58:32.080 --> 01:58:37.080]  But they still have to comply with what the state law requires the clerk to do.
[01:58:37.080 --> 01:58:39.080]  Well, I'll have to look into that.
[01:58:39.080 --> 01:58:41.080]  Okay, folks, we're out of time.
[01:58:41.080 --> 01:58:43.080]  We'll see you tomorrow night.
[01:58:43.080 --> 01:58:47.080]  This is The Rule of Law with Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens.
[01:58:47.080 --> 01:58:51.080]  Callers who are still on the board, sorry, calling earlier tomorrow night.
[01:58:51.080 --> 01:58:53.080]  We'll have four hours.
[01:58:53.080 --> 01:59:03.080]  We will talk to you tomorrow night.
[01:59:23.080 --> 01:59:33.080]  Thank you.
[01:59:53.080 --> 01:59:59.080]  Thank you.