[00:00.000 --> 00:10.480] Israeli Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz says Israel will have to re-occupy the Gaza Strip [00:10.480 --> 00:15.160] to prevent Hamas from re-arming. Tensions along the border with the Strip have risen [00:15.160 --> 00:20.800] since a Friday clash in which two members of the Hamas security force and two members [00:20.800 --> 00:26.880] of the Israeli military were killed. A top defense official said Sunday, Israel does [00:26.880 --> 00:32.800] not plan to offer any concessions regarding its nuclear capability at the Nuclear Security [00:32.800 --> 00:40.080] Summit in Washington next month. In Iraq Sunday, several bombs exploded near a house linked [00:40.080 --> 00:45.200] to a prominent Sunni figure who ran in this month's parliamentary elections, killing [00:45.200 --> 00:56.080] five people and wounding 26 others. The Environmental Protection Agency Friday proposed to hold [00:56.080 --> 01:01.240] the largest mountaintop mine in central Appalachia, saying the project would pollute drinking [01:01.240 --> 01:07.320] water, harm wildlife, and that damage to the mountains would be irreversible. The EPA's [01:07.320 --> 01:12.920] action begins another lengthy process about the controversial mine. In the end, the agency [01:12.920 --> 01:18.280] could prohibit the mine altogether or allow it to continue with restrictions. The EPA [01:18.280 --> 01:23.480] found that mining the coal at Spruce No. 1 in Logan County, West Virginia would fill [01:23.480 --> 01:30.240] six valleys, bury more than seven miles of streams, destroy 2,200 acres of forest, and [01:30.240 --> 01:35.600] pollute water in adjacent streams. This is the first time the EPA has proposed to veto [01:35.600 --> 01:41.120] a mine that had already received a permit. Mountaintop mining requires blasting hundreds [01:41.120 --> 01:47.080] of feet off the tops of mountains to expose coal. The mining has destroyed 2,000 square [01:47.080 --> 01:57.040] miles of land in Appalachia and buried more than 2,000 miles of streams. A federal appeals [01:57.040 --> 02:03.640] court Friday handed another victory to conservative opponents of campaign finance restrictions, [02:03.640 --> 02:08.680] striking down limits on individual contributions to independent groups who want to use the [02:08.680 --> 02:14.720] money for or against candidates in federal elections. But in its unanimous decision, [02:14.720 --> 02:20.620] the U.S. Court of Appeals also said that a conservative group called SpeechNow.org must [02:20.620 --> 02:26.240] disclose its donors and other details of its finances to the Federal Election Commission, [02:26.240 --> 02:31.840] a requirement the group had sought to overturn. Paul Ryan, a lawyer at the Campaign Legal [02:31.840 --> 02:37.440] Center which favors limits on political spending, called the removal of limits on contributions [02:37.440 --> 02:42.800] quote a significant loss for the American public. He also said there is a good chance [02:42.800 --> 02:48.320] the Supreme Court, which ignored its own Presidents in issuing the five to four Citizen United [02:48.320 --> 02:53.320] ruling, may be eager to address the limits kept in place by Friday's rulings. [02:53.320 --> 02:56.320] This news brief brought to you by the International News Net. [02:56.320 --> 03:11.320] You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at RuleOfLawRadio.com, live, free [03:11.320 --> 03:18.320] speech talk radio at its best. [03:41.320 --> 03:52.320] Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? Bad boys, [03:52.320 --> 03:58.320] bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? When you were eight [03:58.320 --> 04:03.320] and you had bad traits, you'd go to school and learn the golden rule. So why are you [04:03.320 --> 04:09.320] acting like a bloody fool? If you get hot then you must get cool. Bad boys, bad boys, [04:09.320 --> 04:16.320] whatcha gonna do? Alright, bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do when we come for you? [04:16.320 --> 04:26.320] This is the Rule of Law. It's Monday, March 29th, 2010. We've got Randy Kelton, Eddie [04:26.320 --> 04:32.820] Craig, and Deborah Stevens. Tonight is Monday nights, which means it's traffic night. We've [04:32.820 --> 04:39.320] got some good material coming up for you. But first we have an announcement to make [04:39.320 --> 04:46.320] and a guest who's gonna be on just briefly. This is Kaye Beach from Radio Free Oklahoma [04:46.320 --> 04:51.320] and Kaye is joining us tonight to make announcements. She's starting a new show on this network. [04:51.320 --> 04:53.320] Thanks for joining us, Kaye. [04:53.320 --> 05:00.320] Thank you for having me as always. Yes, I got an invitation from your wonderful network [05:00.320 --> 05:07.320] to start a radio show and I simply couldn't turn that down. The opportunity to talk and [05:07.320 --> 05:13.320] lots of people listen is always a good thing. So we are going to be occupying your slot [05:13.320 --> 05:19.320] from six to eight on Friday's Central Standard Time and the show's name is gonna be Axiom [05:19.320 --> 05:26.320] for Liberty after my blog that I've had for probably a few years going now covering issues [05:26.320 --> 05:33.320] mostly about activism, coalition building. I do a lot of looking at the new paradigm [05:33.320 --> 05:38.320] that we're moving into and wondering what exactly the old paradigm was, which I bet [05:38.320 --> 05:44.320] you guys have the answer to that. But we're gonna be looking at political maneuvering [05:44.320 --> 05:53.320] and the powers and the pitfalls of activism and politics and my favorite always is surveillance [05:53.320 --> 05:58.320] and how watching the world changes the world. But I want to have a lot of guests on that [05:58.320 --> 06:03.320] are my heroes and that's the everyday people that I know from all over the country that [06:03.320 --> 06:08.320] have decided to do something and talk to them and see what they're doing and gain some [06:08.320 --> 06:14.320] inspiration from them and make some connections. So I want to thank you guys for the opportunity [06:14.320 --> 06:20.320] to have this communication. I appreciate it very much. [06:20.320 --> 06:26.320] Axiom for Liberty, I love it. So go ahead. [06:26.320 --> 06:31.320] I will give you my website and I will even get this changed to an easier one but it's [06:31.320 --> 06:41.320] axiomamuse.wordpress.com. I'm not a webmaster, there's a ton of information on that website [06:41.320 --> 06:46.320] there. Lots of information if you want to dig around and maybe we'll get it laid out [06:46.320 --> 06:50.320] a little bit better but there's tons of stuff there. [06:50.320 --> 06:56.320] Axiom for Liberty, just how free do you want to be? That's the question. [06:56.320 --> 07:01.320] That is the question. I love it. I love it and just wanted to make it the announcement. [07:01.320 --> 07:07.320] That was the slot that Katie Brewer was occupying from 6 to 8 on Friday evenings central time [07:07.320 --> 07:13.320] and we're very sorry to see her go. No drama there or anything like that. She's just very [07:13.320 --> 07:18.320] busy. She's got three children and a husband to take care of and she regrets that she has [07:18.320 --> 07:21.320] to give up the slot. She just bit off a little bit more than she can chew. [07:21.320 --> 07:25.320] She's one of my heroes too, the work that she's done in Austin or down in Texas. Is [07:25.320 --> 07:28.320] she in Austin or? Yes, she's in Austin, yes. [07:28.320 --> 07:34.320] With the vampire police taking the blood, that girl's been tireless. [07:34.320 --> 07:39.320] Absolutely, yes. She's done a lot of good work and we love having her on the network [07:39.320 --> 07:45.320] and she's always got an open door whenever she may have time to come back so we're sorry [07:45.320 --> 07:51.320] to see her go but we understand it can be very time consuming taking care of a family. [07:51.320 --> 07:55.320] I don't have any children. Well, I'll have to get her on as a guest because I love to [07:55.320 --> 07:58.320] talk to her about her work down there. Absolutely. [07:58.320 --> 08:02.320] She's done great things, tireless. So now we have Kay Beach that's going to be [08:02.320 --> 08:06.320] on. Axiom for Liberty, just how free do you want to be? And give out your website one [08:06.320 --> 08:15.320] more time, Kay? It is Axiomamuse, A-X-I-O-M-A-M-U-S-E, Axiomamuse at WordPress.com. [08:15.320 --> 08:18.320] Wonderful and you're going to be starting this Friday, correct? [08:18.320 --> 08:22.320] We're going to do it. I'm going to jump in first. This is another thing that I'm doing [08:22.320 --> 08:28.320] that I haven't really done before without some hand holding anyways. My guest, my host [08:28.320 --> 08:34.320] on Radio Free Oklahoma has taken me a long way but I'm going to jump in first and I [08:34.320 --> 08:41.320] just believe that communication is almost everything. It really is. So I appreciate [08:41.320 --> 08:42.320] the opportunity, guys. [08:42.320 --> 08:45.320] Sure. Now you still are going to be part of Radio Free Oklahoma, right? [08:45.320 --> 08:46.320] Yes. [08:46.320 --> 08:47.320] Okay, good. [08:47.320 --> 08:51.320] And they'll probably be migrating back. We'll probably migrate back and forth a little [08:51.320 --> 08:56.320] bit and there's going to be some evolution there. We're going to see what needs we can [08:56.320 --> 08:59.320] meet and how it all fits together. We'll see. [08:59.320 --> 09:03.320] All right. Well Kay, thanks for joining us tonight and thanks for coming on the show [09:03.320 --> 09:04.320] to give us the announcement. [09:04.320 --> 09:05.320] Thank you so much. [09:05.320 --> 09:07.320] All right. We'll talk to you on Wednesday night. [09:07.320 --> 09:08.320] Okay. Bye-bye. [09:08.320 --> 09:13.320] Okay. Bye-bye. All right. That was Kay Beach from Radio Free Oklahoma now for Axiom for [09:13.320 --> 09:19.320] Liberty on Friday nights. And before we continue on, I just wanted to read this quick letter [09:19.320 --> 09:26.320] from a listener and I have a gift for Randy on the air. He's going to like this. This [09:26.320 --> 09:33.320] is from Rick in Virginia. Very generous listener sending a donation. I wanted to read this [09:33.320 --> 09:39.320] short letter. It says, Dear Deborah, please accept the enclosed order as a donation for [09:39.320 --> 09:44.320] Rule of Law Network. It was a money order. Please accept the enclosed order as a donation [09:44.320 --> 09:50.320] for Rule of Law Network to use as you see fit with one exception. You must deposit one [09:50.320 --> 09:58.320] shiny coin with the nominal value of one twentieth of a Federal Reserve dollar, also known as [09:58.320 --> 10:05.320] a, quote, nickel, end quote, into the account known to the Rule of Law Radio listeners as [10:05.320 --> 10:08.320] Randy's Beer Fund. [10:08.320 --> 10:11.320] Yahoo! Now I got two nickels. [10:11.320 --> 10:18.320] Thank you for all your hard work. Please know that I acknowledge this donation to be but [10:18.320 --> 10:23.320] a modest token of an appreciative listener who is indebted to you for freely presenting [10:23.320 --> 10:29.320] to all who will listen the valuable knowledge born from your hard work and hard knocks. [10:29.320 --> 10:33.320] The continued blessings of the Lord be upon you, Jerry, and the guys at Rule of Law Radio. [10:33.320 --> 10:35.320] So, Randy, here you go. [10:35.320 --> 10:38.320] Oh, yeah. We're moving into big time now. [10:38.320 --> 10:40.320] Did you hear it? Did you hear the nickel drop? [10:40.320 --> 10:41.320] Yes, I did. [10:41.320 --> 10:43.320] All right. There it is. There's your nickel. [10:43.320 --> 10:45.320] Beats the shoe, doesn't it, Randy? [10:45.320 --> 10:47.320] Beats the shoe. [10:47.320 --> 10:49.320] Thank you very much. [10:49.320 --> 10:56.320] All right. So, without any further ado, we've got the second nickel has just been deposited [10:56.320 --> 11:01.320] into Randy's Beer Fund. So, we're going on number three now. [11:01.320 --> 11:05.320] Yeah, that ought to keep him hungover for a week. [11:05.320 --> 11:06.320] Indeed. [11:06.320 --> 11:08.320] At least. [11:08.320 --> 11:14.320] All righty then. Okay. So, on to the traffic issues since Monday night is traffic night [11:14.320 --> 11:23.320] with Eddie, and we have a listener that we are assisting right now with some traffic issues, [11:23.320 --> 11:29.320] went to the course, Randy and Eddie's and myself, the traffic seminar, [11:29.320 --> 11:35.320] gone through the process, gone through the stages, and of course, as everyone would expect, [11:35.320 --> 11:41.320] all the motions got summarily denied, even the motion to disqualify the judge, [11:41.320 --> 11:45.320] the judge ruled on it, I mean, all these things, everything, you know, they did everything wrong, [11:45.320 --> 11:46.320] of course. [11:46.320 --> 11:55.320] Well, in order to appeal in this municipality, first you have to file a motion for retrial [11:55.320 --> 12:01.320] and have that get denied, have a retrial be denied before you can actually appeal. [12:01.320 --> 12:06.320] And the way, if you got to the appeal, the way the appeal process works is that you have to put down [12:06.320 --> 12:12.320] double the amount of the traffic ticket as a bond, all right, for the appeal, [12:12.320 --> 12:16.320] and so that's how they get people to just not appeal because it's more expensive, [12:16.320 --> 12:22.320] it's twice as expensive to appeal, you know, and I guess eventually you do get the bond money back, [12:22.320 --> 12:27.320] but the problem is that they never set a hearing date for the appeal, and so you just lose it, [12:27.320 --> 12:29.320] and everything's just kind of in limbo. [12:29.320 --> 12:32.320] Well, at any rate, first you have to file a motion for retrial first. [12:32.320 --> 12:41.320] So my friend did that, and the clerk would not set a date for a motion hearing, [12:41.320 --> 12:45.320] so my friend at the same time, they filed the motion for retrial, [12:45.320 --> 12:51.320] filed a written request to have a hearing date set, a motion hearing date set. [12:51.320 --> 12:56.320] Well, that was a couple of weeks ago, and nothing's happened yet, [12:56.320 --> 13:00.320] and what it looks like they're trying to do is run them out of time, [13:00.320 --> 13:06.320] because as of this coming Wednesday, if he doesn't pay the tickets, [13:06.320 --> 13:09.320] they're going to issue a warrant for his arrest, [13:09.320 --> 13:15.320] and so what we need to know here is what is the step that he's got to take tomorrow, [13:15.320 --> 13:20.320] a Wednesday, in order to stop a warrant from being issued, [13:20.320 --> 13:23.320] and it's obvious, like I said, that they're trying to run them out of time [13:23.320 --> 13:30.320] because he filed a motion for retrial and a written request to set a motion hearing date, [13:30.320 --> 13:32.320] and they just ignored it. [13:32.320 --> 13:39.320] So I'm thinking that we need to file a petition for a temporary restraining order [13:39.320 --> 13:46.320] with the county court barring the municipal court from issuing a warrant [13:46.320 --> 13:48.320] and stating the reasons why, [13:48.320 --> 13:53.320] and probably even a petition for writ of mandamus ordering the municipal court [13:53.320 --> 13:58.320] to set a frequent motion hearing for this motion for retrial. [13:58.320 --> 14:00.320] What do you think, guys? [14:00.320 --> 14:03.320] What is y'all's feelings on this matter? [14:03.320 --> 14:08.320] Because this is the exact situation that most people are going to run into. [14:08.320 --> 14:11.320] My thunder. [14:11.320 --> 14:17.320] Yeah, that's exactly what I'd suggest is a temporary restraining order [14:17.320 --> 14:20.320] to restrict them from issuing the warrant [14:20.320 --> 14:31.320] and a writ of mandamus ordering the court to set a date for a hearing on motion to reconsider. [14:31.320 --> 14:38.320] Failure to do that, they're denying petitioner the right to petition the court for redress of grievance. [14:38.320 --> 14:50.320] Now, should this person go and file this like in the morning and demand that the judge look at this petition [14:50.320 --> 14:53.320] for temporary restraining order at some point in time tomorrow [14:53.320 --> 14:55.320] and just sit there in court and wait all day? [14:55.320 --> 14:57.320] Yes. [14:57.320 --> 15:02.320] You take it, they'll most likely have a judge hearing these kinds of things [15:02.320 --> 15:05.320] on an emergency restraining order. [15:05.320 --> 15:09.320] The only thing that steps in front of an emergency restraining order [15:09.320 --> 15:13.320] is a writ of habeas corpus, writ of mandamus. [15:13.320 --> 15:17.320] Now, you said normally you want to do this during their motion hearings. [15:17.320 --> 15:20.320] What if they're not having a motion hearing tomorrow? [15:20.320 --> 15:22.320] This one is different. [15:22.320 --> 15:29.320] An emergency restraining order stands in front of everything but habeas corpus mandamus. [15:29.320 --> 15:33.320] So if it's a murder trial, this stands in front of it. [15:33.320 --> 15:36.320] Now, this would be with the county court, right? [15:36.320 --> 15:37.320] Yeah. [15:37.320 --> 15:38.320] So this won't be a murder trial. [15:38.320 --> 15:46.320] I once stopped a murder trial to get the judge to hear a writ of habeas corpus. [15:46.320 --> 15:48.320] He had me thrown out on the street. [15:48.320 --> 15:52.320] But he hadn't stopped the murder trial to get it done. [15:52.320 --> 16:02.320] So yeah, we go down and emergency restraining order, get it to the judge. [16:02.320 --> 16:04.320] And we see what the judge does. [16:04.320 --> 16:06.320] Well, let me ask a question here. [16:06.320 --> 16:07.320] Go ahead. [16:07.320 --> 16:13.320] On these bonds that they require us to file in these cases, [16:13.320 --> 16:18.320] what other criminal cases have to post double the bond in order to get an appeal? [16:18.320 --> 16:19.320] Yeah, that's a good question. [16:19.320 --> 16:21.320] But it hasn't even got to that point yet. [16:21.320 --> 16:24.320] He can't even ask for an appeal. [16:24.320 --> 16:25.320] No, I understand that. [16:25.320 --> 16:31.320] But what I'm getting at is why is it that once again those charged with Class C misdemeanors [16:31.320 --> 16:35.320] or similar misdemeanors, for lack of a better word, [16:35.320 --> 16:38.320] are actually having to post double a bond to get an appeal [16:38.320 --> 16:42.320] that everyone else can automatically get if there's an error that can be shown? [16:42.320 --> 16:46.320] Yeah, no kidding. [16:46.320 --> 16:49.320] Sick of it. [16:49.320 --> 16:51.320] Okay, we'll be right back. [16:51.320 --> 16:53.320] We're going to discuss this a little bit more, [16:53.320 --> 16:55.320] and then Eddie has some material he wants to present, [16:55.320 --> 16:57.320] and we'll take callers a little bit later. [16:57.320 --> 17:00.320] We'll be right back. [17:00.320 --> 17:03.320] It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, [17:03.320 --> 17:06.320] but finding things on the Internet isn't so easy, [17:06.320 --> 17:09.320] and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with. [17:09.320 --> 17:12.320] Oh, well, I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books, then. [17:12.320 --> 17:13.320] Brave New Books? [17:13.320 --> 17:16.320] Yes, Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for [17:16.320 --> 17:20.320] by authors like Alex Jones, Ron Paul, and G. Edward Griffin. [17:20.320 --> 17:24.320] They even stock inner food, Berkey products, and Calvin Soaps. [17:24.320 --> 17:26.320] There's no way a place like that exists. 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[18:26.320 --> 18:28.320] Let's love again [18:28.320 --> 18:31.320] How they don't have an answer [18:31.320 --> 18:33.320] And so can sleep inside [18:33.320 --> 18:35.320] They talk no issues, but see, Lord, [18:35.320 --> 18:38.320] how the war within takes it easy [18:38.320 --> 18:40.320] They talk way too politically [18:40.320 --> 18:43.320] And they're getting mad and angry [18:43.320 --> 18:45.320] But they're standing up and fighting [18:45.320 --> 18:48.320] Fight for their freedom and be free [18:48.320 --> 18:50.320] And they like them love slavery [18:50.320 --> 18:52.320] And get handouts from the government [18:52.320 --> 18:54.320] Let's love again [18:54.320 --> 18:56.320] And we ask the Christians [18:56.320 --> 19:01.320] How they don't have an answer [19:01.320 --> 19:06.320] And we ask the Christians [19:06.320 --> 19:08.320] Let's love again [19:08.320 --> 19:11.320] And they don't have an answer [19:11.320 --> 19:13.320] And so can sleep inside [19:13.320 --> 19:15.320] They're tyrannies, they don't care you [19:15.320 --> 19:18.320] They don't care me, Lord, they don't care the country [19:18.320 --> 19:20.320] Tyranny, they don't care me [19:20.320 --> 19:23.320] They don't care you, and they don't care the country [19:23.320 --> 19:36.120] Okay, so Eddie's asking what other court do you have to pay double for the bond? [19:36.120 --> 19:38.120] This is outrageous. [19:38.120 --> 19:41.120] Randy? [19:41.120 --> 19:42.920] No other court do you have to pay double. [19:42.920 --> 19:47.520] I didn't think so. [19:47.520 --> 19:48.520] This is a good thing. [19:48.520 --> 19:56.020] I think when I do mine, I'm going to raise this issue as it is intended to deny access [19:56.020 --> 19:57.020] to the court. [19:57.020 --> 20:02.320] They're just trying to get money out of people and make it so that they don't appeal it. [20:02.320 --> 20:04.440] That's exactly what they're doing. [20:04.440 --> 20:10.120] Rake everybody over the coals and commit pure thievery. [20:10.120 --> 20:11.760] That's part of what I've been looking at this week. [20:11.760 --> 20:14.760] I've gone through the statutes, I've gone through the statutes, and I've gone through [20:14.760 --> 20:15.760] the statutes. [20:15.760 --> 20:22.080] I can't find where anyone else has to post an appeal bond for an appeal purpose when [20:22.080 --> 20:27.920] they can show that the court that held the trial violated the law, the rules, or the [20:27.920 --> 20:28.920] rights. [20:28.920 --> 20:30.920] This is pure highway robbery. [20:30.920 --> 20:32.400] Pun intended. [20:32.400 --> 20:37.800] Mandated by the legislature because guess who's sitting in the legislature that controls [20:37.800 --> 20:38.800] all this? [20:38.800 --> 20:44.680] The very same people that operate within the courts. [20:44.680 --> 20:46.480] There are lawyers in the legislature. [20:46.480 --> 20:50.160] There are lawyers that control the access to the courts and there are lawyers operating [20:50.160 --> 20:51.160] the courts. [20:51.160 --> 20:56.040] Why does this not surprise you that these easy methods of taxing the people without [20:56.040 --> 21:01.360] any recourse exist because that's all this really is. [21:01.360 --> 21:06.400] It's a tax to gain access to your right to adjudicate a false accusation. [21:06.400 --> 21:17.000] It's the way it reads to me, and only in traffic. [21:17.000 --> 21:18.000] Only where if you- [21:18.000 --> 21:20.400] That in court is a fine only offense. [21:20.400 --> 21:29.100] If you fight the case, they'll find you guilty out of hand and charge you the maximum amount. [21:29.100 --> 21:33.920] If you object to it, they'll charge you double that amount and then never bring it to court [21:33.920 --> 21:34.920] and keep your money. [21:34.920 --> 21:44.720] So they win if you fight it, they win if you appeal it, they win double. [21:44.720 --> 21:47.560] That's just pure extortion at the point of a gun. [21:47.560 --> 21:55.160] When I do my next, these tickets I got, that's one of the issues I'm going to raise is that [21:55.160 --> 22:10.320] the double the bond is a constitutional violation in that it denies the citizen the right to [22:10.320 --> 22:18.480] petition for redress of grievance by making it too costly. [22:18.480 --> 22:20.960] That's my story and I'm sticking to it. [22:20.960 --> 22:25.760] That would definitely appear to be the intent to prevent the appeal or the motion for a [22:25.760 --> 22:31.080] new trial based upon the fact that they know you're going to have to cough up more money [22:31.080 --> 22:35.680] in order to do so because they get to say that you have to cough up more money to do [22:35.680 --> 22:37.080] so. [22:37.080 --> 22:38.520] They always do. [22:38.520 --> 22:41.600] There's never a failure for that to occur. [22:41.600 --> 22:45.320] If you appeal or you do it, then they're going to demand that you pay double. [22:45.320 --> 22:48.200] There's no ifs, ands, or buts on that. [22:48.200 --> 22:56.200] The only way around it is if you manage to get in a rift of, a pauper rift. [22:56.200 --> 23:01.640] A rift of inability to pay. [23:01.640 --> 23:04.480] You don't have to be a pauper. [23:04.480 --> 23:07.240] You don't have to be destitute. [23:07.240 --> 23:18.120] It just has to be onerous to create a hardship and it would have the effect of denying you [23:18.120 --> 23:24.880] your day in court because of excessive costs. [23:24.880 --> 23:27.240] All this stuff, we can appeal it. [23:27.240 --> 23:32.240] You know the other thing that doesn't make any sense to me, Randy, that if you go and [23:32.240 --> 23:39.480] file a lawsuit, you're the one that's required to put down the money to start it. [23:39.480 --> 23:44.160] If the state wants to make these accusations against the people using the statutes that [23:44.160 --> 23:48.600] we know don't apply to them anyway, why is it the state required to foot the bill for [23:48.600 --> 23:53.600] the appeal to initiate the suit when they're the ones that got you into court to begin [23:53.600 --> 23:54.600] with? [23:54.600 --> 24:01.800] Well, actually, the state did have to foot the bill to get you into court initially, [24:01.800 --> 24:04.240] but you're the one asking for the appeal. [24:04.240 --> 24:10.400] Yeah, but you're also the one that got beat up with a law that had no applicability because [24:10.400 --> 24:11.960] the state misrepresents that. [24:11.960 --> 24:14.280] Yeah, but that's a secondary argument. [24:14.280 --> 24:15.560] Well, that's true. [24:15.560 --> 24:16.920] You don't have to appeal. [24:16.920 --> 24:20.120] You can just let them beat you up and take it. [24:20.120 --> 24:23.120] Take it like a man. [24:23.120 --> 24:24.840] I'd rather dish it out like a man. [24:24.840 --> 24:25.840] Thank you very much. [24:25.840 --> 24:29.960] Well, that's why you file an appeal, but you proactively take the action. [24:29.960 --> 24:37.560] So they're asking you to pay for it, but generally in a criminal case, there is no bond for appeal. [24:37.560 --> 24:40.760] That's for a civil. [24:40.760 --> 24:44.300] And here they're asking for an appeal bond in a criminal case. [24:44.300 --> 24:49.920] So you have to pay to defend yourself against a criminal action. [24:49.920 --> 24:50.920] Right. [24:50.920 --> 24:55.560] That right there is my biggest problem with it. [24:55.560 --> 25:01.880] Well, when I go in, I'm going to take it on, but it'll never get to court because they [25:01.880 --> 25:05.960] will never bring it to court. [25:05.960 --> 25:11.520] And then it'll sit there for six months and I'll petition to dismiss too old to prosecute. [25:11.520 --> 25:19.280] Well, the problem is that in the meantime, they'll have warrants for your arrest. [25:19.280 --> 25:21.600] I certainly hope so. [25:21.600 --> 25:27.120] Well, I certainly do not hope so because then me and Eddie are going to be running the radio [25:27.120 --> 25:28.120] show by ourselves. [25:28.120 --> 25:31.920] Well, I don't mind spending, they'll take you down and they'll release you on your own [25:31.920 --> 25:37.680] cognizance and I'll sue the crap out of them, which I'm going to already be doing anyway [25:37.680 --> 25:42.360] from the last time they drew me in jail. [25:42.360 --> 25:44.760] I get paid good. [25:44.760 --> 25:45.760] Works for me. [25:45.760 --> 25:46.760] Yeah. [25:46.760 --> 25:51.400] And I'm not afraid to spend a little time in their jail. [25:51.400 --> 25:55.640] You couldn't pay me enough to give up my liberty for one second like that. [25:55.640 --> 25:57.120] All right. [25:57.120 --> 26:05.880] Well, so do we want to take calls now or Eddie, did you want to do your material first? [26:05.880 --> 26:09.560] Well, there's something I wanted to set up and talk about for a few minutes. [26:09.560 --> 26:10.560] All right. [26:10.560 --> 26:11.560] Let's do that first. [26:11.560 --> 26:14.840] Chris, Danny, you guys just hang on the line because Eddie has the material planned. [26:14.840 --> 26:15.840] Okay. [26:15.840 --> 26:16.840] All right. [26:16.840 --> 26:20.560] The thing I want to talk about is what happens when you actually go to trial and have to [26:20.560 --> 26:22.060] pick a jury. [26:22.060 --> 26:24.920] So let's set the stage for this for a second. [26:24.920 --> 26:32.000] One, you're guaranteed a fair and impartial trial by an impartial jury, correct, Randy? [26:32.000 --> 26:41.680] No, you're guaranteed a fair trial before a jury of your peers, not necessarily impartial. [26:41.680 --> 26:45.880] The idea is impartial, but it's not in the code anywhere. [26:45.880 --> 26:52.000] Well, granted, but that being that they are not allowed in a criminal case to have or [26:52.000 --> 26:59.760] use preconceived statutory presumptions against you, and I've got case law showing that. [26:59.760 --> 27:05.180] Statutory presumption in a criminal case is absolutely forbidden. [27:05.180 --> 27:09.320] Every element of every charge must be proven. [27:09.320 --> 27:13.600] Nothing about any element can be presumed, okay? [27:13.600 --> 27:16.580] So that's part of the stage of what we're sitting here. [27:16.580 --> 27:22.200] So when we get this set up, now we want to get the jury in there, and the first thing [27:22.200 --> 27:26.680] we want to do when we start voir d'iring to make our jury selection is ask a couple of [27:26.680 --> 27:30.040] basic simple questions. [27:30.040 --> 27:34.400] And so I've been sitting and thinking, well, not really sitting, but while I've been writing, [27:34.400 --> 27:38.520] I've been thinking about exactly which ones we need to be asking. [27:38.520 --> 27:47.240] And so what I've got boiled down to initially is, number one, is there anyone that is unfamiliar [27:47.240 --> 27:50.520] with the transportation code of Texas? [27:50.520 --> 27:55.400] Now you should get everybody's hand up, okay? [27:55.400 --> 27:59.240] They may think they know what it is, and so on and so forth. [27:59.240 --> 28:07.880] Second question, who has studied the transportation code here in Texas, all right? [28:07.880 --> 28:19.280] Third question, who has the belief that the transportation code applies to all the people? [28:19.280 --> 28:27.080] On this one, you should get virtually everybody raising their hand up. [28:27.080 --> 28:31.280] Now there's a couple of other ones you can put on to facilitate that, but that one right [28:31.280 --> 28:38.240] there should be enough to make the indication that, Judge, we have to dismiss this panel. [28:38.240 --> 28:42.640] The panel consists of people that are coming into this court with a preconceived notion [28:42.640 --> 28:45.720] of guilt, okay? [28:45.720 --> 28:50.320] They're coming in and stating that these statutes apply to everyone. [28:50.320 --> 28:55.440] And you can follow that question up when you ask it with, how many people believe that [28:55.440 --> 29:05.680] the transportation code governs every aspect of travel of everybody, including the accused? [29:05.680 --> 29:08.280] And again, they'll raise their hand. [29:08.280 --> 29:14.920] And so what you've got is you've got a whole set of jury members here, or possible jury [29:14.920 --> 29:22.520] members, that have a preconceived notion that these laws apply to everyone as they're written. [29:22.520 --> 29:27.240] You can't get a fair trial in a situation where the jury already has a preconceived notion [29:27.240 --> 29:28.840] of applicability. [29:28.840 --> 29:33.400] Now there are certain instances where a preconceived notion serves. [29:33.400 --> 29:36.240] And we'll cover that in just a minute when we get to the other side here. [29:36.240 --> 29:37.240] All right. [29:37.240 --> 29:43.120] Like I said, callers, Chris, Danny, y'all just hang on, and we'll get to you as soon [29:43.120 --> 29:44.600] as Eddie is done with his material. [29:44.600 --> 29:45.600] We'll be right back. [29:45.600 --> 30:00.360] This is the rule of law. 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[30:41.160 --> 30:46.680] For more information, please visit ruleoflawradio.com and click on the blue Michael Mears banner [30:46.680 --> 30:49.680] or email michaelmears at yahoo.com. [30:49.680 --> 30:58.680] That's ruleoflawradio.com or email m-i-c-h-a-e-l-m-i-r-r-a-s at yahoo.com to learn how to stop debt [30:58.680 --> 30:59.680] collectors now. [30:59.680 --> 31:12.520] Okay, we're back. [31:12.520 --> 31:13.520] Go ahead, Eddie. [31:13.520 --> 31:14.520] Okay. [31:14.520 --> 31:19.200] Well, what I was saying about there are certain instances where preconceptions are valid. [31:19.200 --> 31:25.960] For instance, you've been called to serve as a jury member on a murder trial, the presupposition [31:25.960 --> 31:27.560] being somebody's dead. [31:27.560 --> 31:29.680] That's a valid presupposition. [31:29.680 --> 31:31.900] That presumption would hold water. [31:31.900 --> 31:38.920] But for you to presume the applicability or guilt or innocence or a statutory application [31:38.920 --> 31:45.200] of something without any evidence to back it up, that's not acceptable because nothing [31:45.200 --> 31:52.080] in the elements has been substantiated with evidence or testimony or any other means. [31:52.080 --> 31:57.540] So this actually kind of leaves us up in the air as to how can you get a fair trial when [31:57.540 --> 32:03.680] the jury panel itself is already populated entirely by people that have a preconceived [32:03.680 --> 32:08.800] notion about things that you know for a fact or false? [32:08.800 --> 32:22.720] Well, I can see a judge asking the jury, if you receive evidence in the case that your [32:22.720 --> 32:29.200] preconceived belief was not true, would you be willing to change your preconceived belief? [32:29.200 --> 32:35.080] Ah, but in order for that to occur, the judge has to actually let you present the statute, [32:35.080 --> 32:38.480] which they never ever do in traffic court. [32:38.480 --> 32:41.400] That's why he wouldn't do that. [32:41.400 --> 32:43.160] That would be the setup. [32:43.160 --> 32:44.160] Yes. [32:44.160 --> 32:51.480] So, while he could do that, the idea being that he could use that to create a ruse and [32:51.480 --> 32:58.040] force the trial into going on, but the fact of the matter is between him and his compatriot, [32:58.040 --> 33:02.240] the prosecutor, they're never going to allow that information to be brought out in open [33:02.240 --> 33:09.200] court because it blows their case out of the water. [33:09.200 --> 33:17.440] So given that, do you have any way to strengthen or weaken that argument, Randy, when you go [33:17.440 --> 33:25.220] into Wadar, a selection of jury members there, because you can ask several questions in relation [33:25.220 --> 33:30.520] to that that would set it up so tight where there's no way around the fact that they already [33:30.520 --> 33:35.920] have a preconceived notion that you violated the law, you're here because you violated [33:35.920 --> 33:40.120] the law, you're guilty, and the law backs it up, and so they're just going to find you [33:40.120 --> 33:41.120] that way. [33:41.120 --> 33:56.640] I'm thinking, this has kind of caught me off guard, I needed time to trap you. [33:56.640 --> 34:06.160] The problem the prosecution has is the prosecution goes first, and when he's done, let me think [34:06.160 --> 34:07.160] about that. [34:07.160 --> 34:09.280] Does the prosecution go first or do you go, I think he goes first. [34:09.280 --> 34:12.360] Yeah, the prosecution goes first and the jury, Wadar. [34:12.360 --> 34:16.160] Yeah, and he goes last, so he gets the first shot and the last shot. [34:16.160 --> 34:18.680] Well, no, that's during the actual trial. [34:18.680 --> 34:27.240] That's something, and the last thing in the trial, yeah, okay, prosecutor goes first, [34:27.240 --> 34:31.760] the beginning and the end, so he gets the first say to the jury, you get the last say [34:31.760 --> 34:33.720] to the jury. [34:33.720 --> 34:37.800] So at the end of the trial, you're the last one to speak to the jury, so at the beginning [34:37.800 --> 34:42.960] of the trial, he's the first one to speak to the jury, and we need Robert Fox on, we [34:42.960 --> 34:51.400] want to try to have him on next Thursday, and he'll let him address what he was going [34:51.400 --> 34:55.240] to do to the jury, what he did to the jury. [34:55.240 --> 35:00.840] He asked a bunch of questions that I don't remember exactly what they were, but he wanted [35:00.840 --> 35:05.280] to know if they had a social security number, and since he didn't have one, they weren't [35:05.280 --> 35:06.280] a jury of his peers. [35:06.280 --> 35:14.360] And he asked a number of other questions of this nature and asked to dismiss the jury [35:14.360 --> 35:15.360] panel. [35:15.360 --> 35:22.800] Of course, the judge didn't, but it gave him more avenues of appeal, so we'll get him on [35:22.800 --> 35:30.920] Thursday and get him to go through his, he had some pretty interesting questions. [35:30.920 --> 35:32.480] Right now, I'm kind of stuck. [35:32.480 --> 35:40.160] I found the prosecutor and I'm stuck, other than objecting, and the only thing he can [35:40.160 --> 35:43.600] object to is if you give evidence. [35:43.600 --> 35:51.720] So if what you're stating is not evidence, he doesn't have a grounds for objection. [35:51.720 --> 35:53.720] And that's kind of what I'm basing this on. [35:53.720 --> 36:00.140] The fact is, is you can establish, based upon the jury's response, that you're not going [36:00.140 --> 36:02.320] to get a fair trial with this jury. [36:02.320 --> 36:06.840] You set up the fact that they have not studied the actual transportation code, just like [36:06.840 --> 36:09.280] what Robert was doing with the social security number. [36:09.280 --> 36:13.640] They're not a jury of your peers because they have no knowledge of the law dealing with [36:13.640 --> 36:18.520] the subject. [36:18.520 --> 36:22.560] And on top of that, they've walked into the courtroom with preconceived notions that this [36:22.560 --> 36:28.480] is the only way it works, this is who it applies to, and it's everybody, and this is it. [36:28.480 --> 36:32.480] And so it's just like that day that little old lady behind me in her car was on the phone [36:32.480 --> 36:37.280] just having a cardiac arrest while she was hopping up and down her seat staring at my [36:37.280 --> 36:41.480] license plate calling the cops because there was a car driving around with private vehicle [36:41.480 --> 36:44.120] on the tag. [36:44.120 --> 36:48.480] It was kind of funny and hilarious to watch, and I wanted to be able to just calm her down [36:48.480 --> 36:51.720] and explain it to her, but that was not to be. [36:51.720 --> 36:58.360] But in any case, I was thinking there's not going to be any way for them to get around [36:58.360 --> 37:02.840] this and not make it an appealable issue that I can find. [37:02.840 --> 37:06.600] Now, there may be a way for them to do it, but I can't think of one at the moment. [37:06.600 --> 37:10.400] But anyway, that's what I wanted to present is to get people thinking about that. [37:10.400 --> 37:14.880] What you want to do is come up with a set of questions that shows that the jury has [37:14.880 --> 37:21.820] a preconceived mindset about what the outcome of the trial is based upon the facts they're [37:21.820 --> 37:25.680] entering the trial with, okay? [37:25.680 --> 37:32.040] If they've entered the trial saying you're guilty, there's no way for you to win, okay? [37:32.040 --> 37:39.560] Or even if they enter the trial with the notion that certain things apply to you that haven't [37:39.560 --> 37:47.240] been proven in the court, preconceived notions, preconceived beliefs. [37:47.240 --> 37:51.880] So when you're coming up with a list of what are questions for the jury, keep that in mind, [37:51.880 --> 37:56.400] and I would definitely be using that one, okay, or that set, rather. [37:56.400 --> 38:02.560] I'd be using all of those to set the jury up to show that I can't get a fair trial with [38:02.560 --> 38:04.000] this panel, Judge. [38:04.000 --> 38:09.640] We're going to have to vacate the whole panel and select a new set of jurors. [38:09.640 --> 38:13.800] Now they probably 99% of the time are not going to do that. [38:13.800 --> 38:18.400] But again, you're showing that the court has no intention of providing you with a fair [38:18.400 --> 38:19.400] trial. [38:19.400 --> 38:24.640] I mean, let's see, when I went to trial on one of these tickets once, the prosecuting [38:24.640 --> 38:32.280] attorney is the brother of our current district attorney. [38:32.280 --> 38:39.340] And before she was the district attorney, she was selected to be on the jury of my trial [38:39.340 --> 38:41.000] where he was the prosecutor. [38:41.000 --> 38:43.780] And again, this was when he was a hired gun attorney for the city. [38:43.780 --> 38:48.040] He wasn't actually the city attorney, okay? [38:48.040 --> 38:50.520] So understand that. [38:50.520 --> 38:56.400] I know pretty well a lot of the people in these juries, they're not as randomly selected [38:56.400 --> 38:59.280] as they would like you to believe they are. [38:59.280 --> 39:03.480] I just looked over at him and I said, you'd think that's a pretty good draw, wouldn't [39:03.480 --> 39:04.480] you? [39:04.480 --> 39:08.680] He got his own sister on the jury panel. [39:08.680 --> 39:09.680] And the judge knew this. [39:09.680 --> 39:12.520] I take it you objected to the sister? [39:12.520 --> 39:16.520] Oh, I objected big time. [39:16.520 --> 39:27.480] The judge was going to allow her on the jury and it was like, no, sorry, not going to happen. [39:27.480 --> 39:32.420] And I objected and objected and finally the judge marked them out and then the person [39:32.420 --> 39:41.600] they did put on the jury was someone else that actually worked for the police department. [39:41.600 --> 39:43.480] So yeah, it's one of those things. [39:43.480 --> 39:48.440] They're going to rig the trial any way they can. [39:48.440 --> 39:50.240] So folks, just be aware. [39:50.240 --> 39:53.160] I would certainly want to see the jury wheel. [39:53.160 --> 39:54.640] Yeah, exactly. [39:54.640 --> 39:57.920] The process by which the jurors are selected. [39:57.920 --> 39:58.920] How is it put out? [39:58.920 --> 40:03.960] They'd select the jury the same way that they select the attorney from the prosecution. [40:03.960 --> 40:09.160] They have a little piece of software that generates a list and they just go down to [40:09.160 --> 40:13.280] the next one in the list, yeah, right, okay? [40:13.280 --> 40:16.680] That's about how it works, not where I'm from. [40:16.680 --> 40:19.560] I would certainly want to see that software. [40:19.560 --> 40:27.840] Well, according to an ex-police officer here, Joe Owens, who retired from the police department [40:27.840 --> 40:34.360] and was in it in the 50s and 60s and 70s, he said that according to the way the law [40:34.360 --> 40:40.060] was required to work in those days, a jury was selected by court order. [40:40.060 --> 40:49.200] They went out and the bailiff was required to collect passerbys off the street. [40:49.200 --> 40:54.560] That's how they used to have to collect the jury here in Texas. [40:54.560 --> 40:58.240] The bailiff would just go out and start telling people off the street, I need you, I need [40:58.240 --> 41:02.240] you, I need you, I need you, and take them into the court. [41:02.240 --> 41:07.160] Now, you'd have to admit that would at least be pretty random. [41:07.160 --> 41:11.040] Well, unless everybody knew about it and stayed away from the courthouse. [41:11.040 --> 41:13.040] Yeah, that would be up your buddies. [41:13.040 --> 41:19.480] Yeah, that would be the way to avoid jury duty at all times, don't go near the courthouse. [41:19.480 --> 41:24.800] But yeah, that's pretty much exactly what they did. [41:24.800 --> 41:29.880] Anyway, that's all I've got to present, Debra, so we can start with the phone call. [41:29.880 --> 41:30.880] Okay. [41:30.880 --> 41:34.960] All right, let's go to Chris in Texas. [41:34.960 --> 41:37.440] Hey, Chris, thanks for calling in. [41:37.440 --> 41:39.440] What's your question for us? [41:39.440 --> 41:50.600] Well, I was going through a divorce right now and getting kind of, I guess, railroaded. [41:50.600 --> 41:56.560] When they figured out her income, they figured out 48 weeks, so I'm trying to do a motion [41:56.560 --> 42:02.360] or a trial because if she okayed this, wouldn't it set precedence? [42:02.360 --> 42:07.160] I'm in Texas, she's in Missouri, so wouldn't it set precedence that the state of Missouri [42:07.160 --> 42:11.200] who collects state income tax, wouldn't they set precedence that they could start figuring [42:11.200 --> 42:16.720] everybody's income at 48 weeks plus child support? [42:16.720 --> 42:18.720] What did you say 48 what? [42:18.720 --> 42:22.240] 48 weeks instead of 52. [42:22.240 --> 42:27.640] So they're shorting her pay by four weeks a year, so she's getting four weeks a year [42:27.640 --> 42:33.360] kind of free that's not accounted for on the court papers. [42:33.360 --> 42:37.680] Now where is the case being adjudicated? [42:37.680 --> 42:41.280] Hillsboro, Missouri, Jefferson County, just south of St. Louis. [42:41.280 --> 42:44.400] Okay, then I don't know. [42:44.400 --> 42:50.120] It doesn't matter where you live, it matters where the venue is. [42:50.120 --> 42:57.120] Yeah, but whenever they figured out my income, they figured it out at 52 weeks. [42:57.120 --> 42:58.720] So who is they? [42:58.720 --> 43:06.200] The judge, because I sent a motion in for 30 additional days to file, she said as moat, [43:06.200 --> 43:10.120] which to me as moat doesn't it mean that it's already been answered? [43:10.120 --> 43:13.720] Wait, moat or moot? [43:13.720 --> 43:15.680] Moot, sorry moot. [43:15.680 --> 43:17.680] Okay, okay. [43:17.680 --> 43:23.920] That would mean, that would seem to mean that it's already been answered. [43:23.920 --> 43:28.840] Well, I've never asked a question, so I don't know how to be answered. [43:28.840 --> 43:33.800] Okay, the problem here is we don't have enough information to really understand what you're [43:33.800 --> 43:34.800] asking us here. [43:34.800 --> 43:41.000] Kind of give us little bits and pieces, I don't know enough to be able to give you a [43:41.000 --> 43:42.000] coach answer. [43:42.000 --> 43:43.000] I have some more questions too. [43:43.000 --> 43:46.600] Okay, well hang on the line, we're going to break Chris. [43:46.600 --> 43:47.600] All right. [43:47.600 --> 43:50.840] All right, we also have Danny from Texas, you're up next. [43:50.840 --> 43:57.840] Callers if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984, we'll be right back. [43:57.840 --> 44:06.200] Attention, an important product from hempusa.org, micro plant powder, will change your life [44:06.200 --> 44:11.280] by removing all types of positive toxins, such as heavy metals, parasites, bacteria, [44:11.280 --> 44:16.640] viruses, and fungus from the digestive tract and stomach wall so you can absorb nutrients. [44:16.640 --> 44:21.960] Micro plant powder is 89% silica and packed with a negative charge that attracts positive [44:21.960 --> 44:25.240] toxins from the blood, organs, spine, and brain. 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[45:31.880 --> 45:37.600] I wasn't able to get there, so I got a judgment and the decree, the resolution of marriage. [45:37.600 --> 45:42.000] But in the paperwork they sent me, there was a bunch of scratches where they scratched [45:42.000 --> 45:44.680] out some stuff, handwritten some stuff in there. [45:44.680 --> 45:47.040] Is that legal? [45:47.040 --> 45:52.760] On a legal document, anything that is handwritten on the document takes precedence over what [45:52.760 --> 45:54.800] is printed on the document. [45:54.800 --> 45:55.800] Okay. [45:55.800 --> 46:04.160] So long as it is something written and verified, it has to be verified after the handwriting [46:04.160 --> 46:10.920] is on there, like it has to be initialed and dated to show that it wasn't put on there [46:10.920 --> 46:11.920] after the document is there. [46:11.920 --> 46:12.920] Does it have to be notarized? [46:12.920 --> 46:16.960] It depends on the nature of the document. [46:16.960 --> 46:18.760] Okay. [46:18.760 --> 46:24.320] But also the cover page of it states something different than what the actual paperwork says. [46:24.320 --> 46:30.240] It says that I owe 1316 per month for two children, but if you actually read the paperwork, [46:30.240 --> 46:37.200] it says 1316 per child per month. [46:37.200 --> 46:39.920] That's an issue that makes the order ambiguous. [46:39.920 --> 46:40.920] Yes. [46:40.920 --> 46:46.040] You should challenge the order for a more definite statement. [46:46.040 --> 46:51.680] And also according to the Missouri statutes, it says they were supposed to send out a handbook [46:51.680 --> 46:56.920] with both parties of what the Supreme Court wrote as each person's rights and everything [46:56.920 --> 47:01.120] else and I never got the handbook. [47:01.120 --> 47:04.400] Okay. [47:04.400 --> 47:07.400] Did you have counsel? [47:07.400 --> 47:10.040] No. [47:10.040 --> 47:17.200] That's going to depend on, you need to research out the requirement and see if there's any [47:17.200 --> 47:25.960] case law attached to that requirement that makes it so that you would have lacked proper [47:25.960 --> 47:32.640] notice without the handbook. [47:32.640 --> 47:37.720] It may just be that that's a technical issue and they were going to require you to know [47:37.720 --> 47:43.360] the law anyway and that's the general case. [47:43.360 --> 47:49.320] And okay, when you get a divorce in Missouri, you have to fill out two things, a statement [47:49.320 --> 47:51.960] of property, a statement of income and expenses. [47:51.960 --> 47:58.600] Her statement of income and expenses is like $300 a month less than what was actually in [47:58.600 --> 48:06.400] the court papers and also the statement of property, she had a pickup truck. [48:06.400 --> 48:09.400] It shows that her dad is in possession of the pickup truck. [48:09.400 --> 48:17.080] It also shows that her monthly automobile insurance is only enough to pay for her car. [48:17.080 --> 48:20.720] So therefore, wouldn't it be a reasonable assumption that her dad is also making payments [48:20.720 --> 48:24.600] of the truck, the insurance and the truck payment? [48:24.600 --> 48:29.680] Yes, and you could move for perjury on the part of her. [48:29.680 --> 48:35.640] Well, I was going to do that too for perjury because according to Missouri state law, if [48:35.640 --> 48:44.200] you, it's a class D felony if you try to get state funds like through, sorry, food stamps [48:44.200 --> 48:48.960] or something, over $500. [48:48.960 --> 48:55.440] And would I also have to go over, go after her lawyer for preparing the documents? [48:55.440 --> 48:57.400] Good call. [48:57.400 --> 49:00.120] He's probably the best one to go after. [49:00.120 --> 49:01.120] Absolutely. [49:01.120 --> 49:06.600] Would I also go after the judge because in the state of Missouri, judges have to be lawyers [49:06.600 --> 49:10.400] too for approving this stuff and not looking? [49:10.400 --> 49:18.600] Well, yes, if the documentation was inconsistent, then absolutely go after the judge. [49:18.600 --> 49:25.600] Okay, because they have a, well, I'm going to assume after I file this motion for a new [49:25.600 --> 49:30.240] trial, I'm also going to send a copy to the office of council discipline, excuse me, office [49:30.240 --> 49:35.240] of chief discipline council, so it would be like the head office of the bar association [49:35.240 --> 49:38.640] for the state of Missouri who that's the discipline. [49:38.640 --> 49:40.400] Can I make a suggestion? [49:40.400 --> 49:41.400] Sure. [49:41.400 --> 49:50.560] As much as I like going after judges and prosecutors, consider carefully what your intended outcome [49:50.560 --> 49:57.720] is, what's important to you and make sure, because you have to understand when you go [49:57.720 --> 50:02.520] after the judges, the judges are going to come after you. [50:02.520 --> 50:08.880] In a perfect world, this wouldn't be a problem, but this is not a perfect world and if this [50:08.880 --> 50:17.160] involves your children, you might want to get your best outcome in the divorce first [50:17.160 --> 50:23.960] and once that's done, then you can go back after the culprits with relative impunity, [50:23.960 --> 50:30.800] but as long as they have an option to rule over your future, I'd suggest you exercise [50:30.800 --> 50:32.600] extreme caution. [50:32.600 --> 50:40.880] Well, it's not a prosecutor, it's a lawyer, I'm talking about my ex-wife's lawyer, it's [50:40.880 --> 50:41.880] a bar preacher. [50:41.880 --> 50:47.040] I know, but these guys all tend to protect one another. [50:47.040 --> 50:55.960] I would want to get an adjudication, the best adjudication I could in the family court first [50:55.960 --> 50:58.520] and you can always go back after these guys later. [50:58.520 --> 51:05.080] If you go after them now, they're likely to rule against you at every turn, granted that's [51:05.080 --> 51:12.400] illegal and you'll still be put in that position of having to deal with it and this involves [51:12.400 --> 51:18.680] your children, so while I really like to go after these guys, I would hate to see you [51:18.680 --> 51:24.200] lose access to your children because you did the right thing. [51:24.200 --> 51:29.800] Yeah, that kind of stinks. [51:29.800 --> 51:32.960] And as far as like what Eddie was talking about with the traffic code and you were talking [51:32.960 --> 51:38.880] about if they, since Texas doesn't have a wrongful imprisonment, they only have a kidnapping, [51:38.880 --> 51:42.720] have you ever tried to do it under Title 18 USC Section 242? [51:42.720 --> 51:48.880] Yeah, but that's, you can do that second, that's the constitutional violation. [51:48.880 --> 51:54.840] You can nail them in the state, then nail them in the fed. [51:54.840 --> 51:58.640] You can nail them in the state for the state violations and then you nail them in the fed [51:58.640 --> 52:02.240] for the constitutional violations, civil rights violations. [52:02.240 --> 52:05.320] So yeah, you can do both. [52:05.320 --> 52:09.200] I just prefer beating them up in the state first because the state gives me more tort [52:09.200 --> 52:13.080] action because they do everything wrong. [52:13.080 --> 52:16.280] They give me more claims against them. [52:16.280 --> 52:21.480] On a civil trial, how hard is it to subpoena somebody's financial records? [52:21.480 --> 52:26.840] It's real easy to subpoena, but they're always going to object to it and it kind of depends [52:26.840 --> 52:27.840] on the judge. [52:27.840 --> 52:31.960] If they've bought the judge, it's going to be difficult. [52:31.960 --> 52:36.920] If you want to subpoena the records, you need to show cause. [52:36.920 --> 52:40.720] And if you have a cause, you've got to write to the records. [52:40.720 --> 52:45.200] Wouldn't cause on the truck if she said on the paperwork that her dad is in possession [52:45.200 --> 52:46.200] of the truck? [52:46.200 --> 52:50.520] Absolutely, you have cause. [52:50.520 --> 52:54.200] You're looking to subpoena the dad's records if he's insuring the truck? [52:54.200 --> 52:59.960] No, well, insuring it plus also making the $385 a month payment, so that would be unaccounted [52:59.960 --> 53:02.400] income that she did not report. [53:02.400 --> 53:07.240] Yes, that would be, absolutely that would be grounds. [53:07.240 --> 53:13.120] And then therefore it would fall under class D felony if she's also, because she actually [53:13.120 --> 53:15.800] has so far received. [53:15.800 --> 53:19.560] You could also do a little divide and conquer. [53:19.560 --> 53:26.200] You accuse the dad of acting in concert and collusion and he's not going to want to be [53:26.200 --> 53:27.200] indicted. [53:27.200 --> 53:32.880] Yeah, he's 65 or 7 years old, I think his daughter would actually give it up before [53:32.880 --> 53:35.880] she would see her dad sitting in jail at 70 years old. [53:35.880 --> 53:41.320] Right, so you point, you don't have to charge him with anything, but you kind of use discovery [53:41.320 --> 53:43.400] to point the finger at him. [53:43.400 --> 53:44.400] Yeah. [53:44.400 --> 53:49.200] And you know, that's going to frighten him. [53:49.200 --> 53:54.400] And I don't suggest doing that for the wrong reason, but if it's for the right reason, [53:54.400 --> 53:55.400] take the best shot. [53:55.400 --> 54:00.240] No, because all I'm wanting is, actually I was just wanting to sit down, hash it out [54:00.240 --> 54:07.680] person to person, no lawyers, write it out, have two lawyers look at it okay, judge okay. [54:07.680 --> 54:13.920] I wish we could actually come to a reasonable agreement, like adults should, instead of [54:13.920 --> 54:16.840] all this stupid stuff we have to go through. [54:16.840 --> 54:19.520] You were married to a woman, right? [54:19.520 --> 54:22.520] Yeah, but actually I got a... [54:22.520 --> 54:27.200] He's only saying that because Deb can't use his microphone. [54:27.200 --> 54:29.200] Yeah, I'm kidding. [54:29.200 --> 54:31.320] Yeah, I know that. [54:31.320 --> 54:32.320] I mean... [54:32.320 --> 54:34.920] It's one of those things where, you know... [54:34.920 --> 54:39.680] It happens both ways around, I mean I was going to say if you guys could sit down and [54:39.680 --> 54:43.800] work it out reasonably, you wouldn't be getting a divorce most likely. [54:43.800 --> 54:47.960] I mean the same thing happened to me, I mean I don't have any kids, thank God, you know, [54:47.960 --> 54:53.320] but I'll tell you, it would have been pretty bad, you know, situation that I went through. [54:53.320 --> 54:57.800] It's just like when people decide they're not going to be reasonable, they're just not [54:57.800 --> 55:03.080] going to be reasonable and that's why lawyers and courts have to get involved and... [55:03.080 --> 55:06.280] The attorneys promote that, they profit from it. [55:06.280 --> 55:07.280] That too. [55:07.280 --> 55:13.520] And also, I talked to the attorney generals down in Texas, Texas said they have jurisdiction [55:13.520 --> 55:18.080] of the children because the children were born here, therefore I would have to pay child [55:18.080 --> 55:22.760] support based on Texas laws, but the state of Missouri is trying to get child support [55:22.760 --> 55:28.400] out of me and there was something called Universal Child Support Act that all 50 states signed, [55:28.400 --> 55:29.400] that way they... [55:29.400 --> 55:35.600] Well, there's a slight problem with that, the states are forbidden to sign compacts [55:35.600 --> 55:36.600] with each other. [55:36.600 --> 55:39.600] Ooh, where is that at? [55:39.600 --> 55:41.600] United States Constitution. [55:41.600 --> 55:42.600] Oh. [55:42.600 --> 55:51.200] Well, there's another problem with that, that's generally part of either a divorce agreement [55:51.200 --> 55:57.640] or some kind of custody, a court order and I mean, unless you're like gone through two [55:57.640 --> 56:02.520] divorces over the same case in two different states and two different courts, I don't see [56:02.520 --> 56:05.240] how it could be that way. [56:05.240 --> 56:10.400] Well, the Texas attorney general is full of crap, there's no way that they can maintain [56:10.400 --> 56:15.440] jurisdiction over somebody that is not living in the state, child or otherwise. [56:15.440 --> 56:20.880] Where they're born is irrelevant, where they are living is all that matters. [56:20.880 --> 56:26.800] That's exactly what I told them and they said no, but then I actually read it and somewhere [56:26.800 --> 56:30.840] in the state law, that's what it actually says. [56:30.840 --> 56:31.840] Let me ask you a question. [56:31.840 --> 56:32.840] Go ahead. [56:32.840 --> 56:38.440] If the Texas legislature wrote a law that said all Californians have to pay Texas a 15% tax [56:38.440 --> 56:40.800] of their income, would it be legal? [56:40.800 --> 56:41.800] No. [56:41.800 --> 56:42.800] Okay. [56:42.800 --> 56:52.160] So, Texas can't write a statute that impacts somebody living in a different state, period. [56:52.160 --> 56:57.360] Well, what court has a jurisdiction over the divorce? [56:57.360 --> 56:58.360] Missouri. [56:58.360 --> 57:01.920] Well, then what does Texas have to do with it? [57:01.920 --> 57:05.720] Because the state attorney general up there will send the order down to the state attorney [57:05.720 --> 57:09.560] general down here in Texas and they will enforce the order through there. [57:09.560 --> 57:10.560] Yes. [57:10.560 --> 57:11.560] Are you in Texas? [57:11.560 --> 57:12.560] Yes. [57:12.560 --> 57:13.560] Okay. [57:13.560 --> 57:17.600] That's why they're doing that part of it in Texas, but it does not matter where the children [57:17.600 --> 57:19.600] are born, it's where they're living. [57:19.600 --> 57:20.600] Where are they? [57:20.600 --> 57:21.600] Missouri. [57:21.600 --> 57:28.800] Then Texas has nothing Texas can do as far as determining anything about what they do [57:28.800 --> 57:29.800] or don't get. [57:29.800 --> 57:31.880] I don't even think it matters where the kids live. [57:31.880 --> 57:37.320] What matters is what court has jurisdiction over the custody case. [57:37.320 --> 57:41.960] Well, but he's not talking about the custody, he's talking about the child support. [57:41.960 --> 57:46.560] But that's generally part, that's worked out in the custody case. [57:46.560 --> 57:53.360] That will depend on where the children reside when the case is initiated. [57:53.360 --> 57:54.360] That's what I'm saying. [57:54.360 --> 57:55.840] It doesn't matter where they live now. [57:55.840 --> 57:59.680] If they move in the process, there is provision to move jurisdiction. [57:59.680 --> 58:00.680] Right. [58:00.680 --> 58:03.120] That's what, that was my whole point. [58:03.120 --> 58:04.120] Okay. [58:04.120 --> 58:06.600] Thank you all very much. [58:06.600 --> 58:07.600] Okay. [58:07.600 --> 58:08.600] Thank you, Chris. [58:08.600 --> 58:09.600] Bye. [58:09.600 --> 58:10.600] Yeah. [58:10.600 --> 58:15.000] And moving the jurisdiction from one court to another involving the custody and child [58:15.000 --> 58:17.520] support arrangement is a big, big deal. [58:17.520 --> 58:18.520] They don't like to do that. [58:18.520 --> 58:19.520] Of course not. [58:19.520 --> 58:22.520] It takes the money to somewhere else. [58:22.520 --> 58:23.520] Yeah. [58:23.520 --> 58:25.000] That too. [58:25.000 --> 58:26.240] Okay. [58:26.240 --> 58:27.240] We will be back. [58:27.240 --> 58:28.240] We've got Danny from Texas. [58:28.240 --> 58:29.240] We've got one more hour. 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[01:02:49.880 --> 01:03:11.240] We'll be back in about three and a half minutes. [01:03:11.240 --> 01:03:39.600] We'll be back in about three and a half minutes. [01:03:39.600 --> 01:03:43.920] Okay, we are back. [01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:47.400] We're taking your calls. [01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:49.400] We've got Danny in Texas. [01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:53.920] Callers, if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984. [01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:54.920] Go ahead, Danny. [01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:55.920] Thanks for calling in. [01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:56.920] What's on your mind tonight? [01:03:56.920 --> 01:03:57.920] How are y'all doing tonight? [01:03:57.920 --> 01:03:58.920] Pretty good. [01:03:58.920 --> 01:03:59.920] Okay. [01:03:59.920 --> 01:04:00.920] Just a few little things. [01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:06.160] Y'all talked earlier about the bond being doubled and everything and the traffic cases. [01:04:06.160 --> 01:04:08.480] Yeah, that's right. [01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:15.840] Maybe that's not the way it should be, but a bond is really not money, but paperwork [01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:19.920] and it's a promise to perform that you're going to go do whatever it is that the bond [01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:20.920] ... [01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:21.920] Wait a minute. [01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:22.920] A bond... [01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:23.920] Fail. [01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:24.920] A bond is money. [01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:25.920] Fail is paperwork. [01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:35.440] Well, if you look up, it's talking about a peel bond and the format of it and what... [01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:36.440] Oh, okay. [01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:37.440] I'm sorry. [01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:38.440] You're right. [01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:42.160] In this case, you don't have a right to a peel bond, you have a right to bail, and in [01:04:42.160 --> 01:04:44.680] this case, it really is a bond. [01:04:44.680 --> 01:04:45.680] Right. [01:04:45.680 --> 01:04:46.680] I'm sorry. [01:04:46.680 --> 01:04:47.680] You're right. [01:04:47.680 --> 01:04:49.680] I interrupted ahead of time. [01:04:49.680 --> 01:04:50.680] You're right. [01:04:50.680 --> 01:04:53.680] It is an insurance policy. [01:04:53.680 --> 01:04:54.680] Yeah. [01:04:54.680 --> 01:04:55.680] A form of assurance. [01:04:55.680 --> 01:04:56.680] Yeah. [01:04:56.680 --> 01:04:57.680] Go ahead. [01:04:57.680 --> 01:04:58.680] I'll shut up. [01:04:58.680 --> 01:05:04.680] It's a promise to perform with a financial penalty if you fail to do so. [01:05:04.680 --> 01:05:09.360] That's what it really amounts to. [01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:17.560] Earlier Eddie was talking about dealing with the jury and how they try not to let you talk [01:05:17.560 --> 01:05:19.360] about the law for the jury. [01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:23.440] They talk about that the jury determine the facts and the judge determines the law and [01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:26.320] the judge will tell the jury what the law is. [01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:32.200] However, there is something in the Constitution which I think would be good to hit on sometime [01:05:32.200 --> 01:05:38.920] when you get the opportunity as to with the jury determining the law. [01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:44.000] In the Bill of Rights, Article 1, Section 8, it has a number of things, but the last sentence [01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:49.080] of it there is that in all indictments for libel, the jury should have the right to determine [01:05:49.080 --> 01:05:54.600] the law and the facts under the direction of the court as in other cases. [01:05:54.600 --> 01:05:55.600] Okay. [01:05:55.600 --> 01:06:03.000] So libel is not considered criminal anymore, it's civil, but still this shows this last [01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:08.120] part as in other cases that the jury should determine the law and the facts as in other [01:06:08.120 --> 01:06:09.120] cases. [01:06:09.120 --> 01:06:10.120] Hold on. [01:06:10.120 --> 01:06:11.120] Randy. [01:06:11.120 --> 01:06:14.400] Randy, I can't hear what the caller is saying because you've got something going on over [01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:15.400] there. [01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:16.400] I thought it was mutants. [01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:17.400] Okay. [01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:18.400] Go ahead, caller. [01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:19.400] Sorry. [01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:26.400] Anyway, that just now seemed like something to hit on sometime, you want to wrestle with [01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:31.880] whether or not the jury gets to determine the law of the case as in the Constitution, [01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:38.400] and I've not found any annotations or court cases where that's been brought up, so it's [01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:43.960] almost like a first-time thing if somebody could get in the argument and appeal it up [01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:49.760] as to whether or not the jury gets to determine the law as well as the facts. [01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:51.240] Okay. [01:06:51.240 --> 01:06:59.760] I'm thinking of how to get the jury to determine the law as a fact. [01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:05.920] No, no, not as a fact, determine the law as well as the facts. [01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:06.920] Well... [01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:11.160] They can decide whether or not this law is applicable here or not. [01:07:11.160 --> 01:07:16.240] Yeah, the court's going to object to that vehemently. [01:07:16.240 --> 01:07:18.560] The juries get to nullify law. [01:07:18.560 --> 01:07:24.320] Yeah, that's what this is, and it's in the Constitution, in the Bill of Rights, but I [01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:25.320] don't... [01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:29.360] If they think the law is unconstitutional, they get to nullify the law. [01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:35.000] Well, that's an argument we try to make, but that's also something the judges fight against [01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:40.840] terribly, and that's a great argument to have in front of the jury. [01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:48.360] You get the judge to tell you you can't do something and have the argument right in front [01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:52.720] of the jury, and they get to hear it. [01:07:52.720 --> 01:07:53.720] Yeah. [01:07:53.720 --> 01:07:58.880] Well, if the prosecutor doesn't jump up and ask the jury to be removed where they're supposed [01:07:58.880 --> 01:07:59.880] to... [01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:05.680] Well, the problem is you get a shot at them before he has time to realize what you're [01:08:05.680 --> 01:08:16.640] going to do, and then he can complain that you tainted the jury pool if he wants to. [01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:19.640] Life's tough, bubba. [01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:23.840] The other thing there, were you talking about the cop years ago, talking about the way they [01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:27.360] gathered their jury up, well, they still have that. [01:08:27.360 --> 01:08:32.840] I've heard of cases where they ran out of jurors somehow, and they sent the guy out [01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:37.680] in the hall or out in the street to bring people in to finish off a jury when they ran [01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:38.680] short. [01:08:38.680 --> 01:08:47.560] Yes, I've heard of that relatively recently, and they certainly still can do that. [01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:48.560] Yeah. [01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:54.600] So be careful if you're walking around a courthouse, and you see a bailiff coming at you, run. [01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:55.600] Okay. [01:08:55.600 --> 01:09:03.240] Well, that was all I had here tonight, I thought it was kind of important for people to realize [01:09:03.240 --> 01:09:09.800] that you don't have to put up cash for a bond, that it's really just paperwork, and that's [01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:10.800] what I... [01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:15.000] Yeah, the problem is the courts insist on cash. [01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:17.040] Well, I know. [01:09:17.040 --> 01:09:21.360] It would be nice if you sent us a brief on this issue so we could... [01:09:21.360 --> 01:09:22.360] Okay. [01:09:22.360 --> 01:09:28.160] We might be able to find something, I know a few of us around here have, you know, just [01:09:28.160 --> 01:09:29.160] put bonds together. [01:09:29.160 --> 01:09:34.000] Sometimes they'll try to require that you have a surety go with you, so you've got to [01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:39.640] get somebody else to promise they have at least a twice the amount of bond or something [01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:42.840] like that, and profit or something in the county. [01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:46.440] Yeah, that goes to bail. [01:09:46.440 --> 01:09:53.320] And if we could get a brief that would show that bond in an appeal is equivalent to bail [01:09:53.320 --> 01:10:03.680] in a regional accusation, then it goes to a written agreement and not the posting money, [01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:08.360] because you have a right to bail, and bail is a written undertaking between you and the [01:10:08.360 --> 01:10:09.360] state. [01:10:09.360 --> 01:10:17.920] You don't have any assets, you have to maintain that your net worth exclusive of all encumbrances [01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:26.320] is worth more than the fines, you have to agree on your failure to abide by the court [01:10:26.320 --> 01:10:32.040] to reimburse the state that amount plus the cost of re-incarcerating you. [01:10:32.040 --> 01:10:37.920] So technically the court would come out better if they put you on bail, but if you don't [01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:45.560] have any property, then you have the option of posting a cash bond in lieu of bail. [01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:51.000] So you get to appeal and all of a sudden the bail has gone away and it's turned to bond [01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:57.560] straight up. [01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:00.880] So it's going to be a nice argument, give me a bunch of them, I've got three tickets [01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:08.360] and I'm going to have a great time with them, regardless of what I had for tonight so far. [01:11:08.360 --> 01:11:09.360] Okay, thank you Danny. [01:11:09.360 --> 01:11:10.360] Okay, bye. [01:11:10.360 --> 01:11:11.360] Okay, thanks Danny. [01:11:11.360 --> 01:11:20.720] All right, we have open phone lines, callers if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984, there [01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:25.440] was a bunch of callers on the board last week and we kind of ran out of time, so folks call [01:11:25.440 --> 01:11:26.440] on in. [01:11:26.440 --> 01:11:32.320] Yeah, I've got three tickets and I am looking forward to this. [01:11:32.320 --> 01:11:38.720] I'm going to take Eddie's material and we're going to start this from the beginning. [01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:42.560] I start out with asking the bailiff to arrest the prosecuting attorney because he doesn't [01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:46.200] have a license to practice. [01:11:46.200 --> 01:11:51.720] And then when the judge refuses to act against the prosecutor, then I'm going to ask the [01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:58.400] bailiff to arrest the judge for acting in concert and collusion with the illegal practice [01:11:58.400 --> 01:12:01.400] of law. [01:12:01.400 --> 01:12:06.600] I can't nail the judge because in order to be a judge, he doesn't have to have a bar [01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:13.600] license or a license to practice, he just has to be in good standing with the bar because [01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:17.440] in fact when he's sitting as a judge, he's not practicing. [01:12:17.440 --> 01:12:22.980] He may do that when he's not sitting as a judge but he doesn't have to have the license [01:12:22.980 --> 01:12:23.980] on the stand. [01:12:23.980 --> 01:12:29.920] But if he acts in concert and collusion with the prosecuting attorney and practice the [01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:34.840] illegal practice of law, he's equally culpable. [01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:40.320] And then I ask the bailiff to arrest them both and when he refuses, I ask the judge [01:12:40.320 --> 01:12:47.240] to arrest the bailiff and when he refuses, I ask the judge to disqualify himself. [01:12:47.240 --> 01:12:52.040] And it should go downhill from there. [01:12:52.040 --> 01:12:56.560] So you got some good suggestions for how to lay this out, Eddie, so I don't miss anything. [01:12:56.560 --> 01:13:02.680] Not right off the top of my head but let me think about it. [01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:03.680] How would you? [01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:07.020] When I go in there, I want to keep first things first. [01:13:07.020 --> 01:13:08.020] Who are you? [01:13:08.020 --> 01:13:13.040] What authority do you have to sit here in this room? [01:13:13.040 --> 01:13:16.720] That approach should be used on everybody, the judge and the prosecutor. [01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:22.440] So I go after the prosecutor first and I can use that to hammer the judge with. [01:13:22.440 --> 01:13:27.320] Once I nail the prosecutor who I know doesn't have a license, I get the judge to uphold [01:13:27.320 --> 01:13:34.240] and I ask the judge to disqualify himself and ask the bailiff to arrest them both. [01:13:34.240 --> 01:13:39.600] So now I've got them nailed, first crack out of the hat. [01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:43.880] And they'll try to move ahead and I'll object, judge, you're disqualified, you get out off [01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:44.880] that bench. [01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:47.880] You're a criminal, you belong in prison, you don't belong up on the bench, get out [01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:48.880] off there. [01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:54.680] And he will probably get pretty excited about that point and make dire threats against my [01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:55.680] liberty. [01:13:55.680 --> 01:14:02.120] In which case I will object and let the record reflect my objection. [01:14:02.120 --> 01:14:07.320] Well actually at that point, Randy, since you've disqualified them as a public servant, [01:14:07.320 --> 01:14:11.840] that is now a terroristic threat, that's a criminal charge. [01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:15.760] They're threatening to kidnap and incarcerate you at gunpoint with an armed individual. [01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:22.040] Yeah, I did that to my district judge once and they wanted to say that a terroristic [01:14:22.040 --> 01:14:29.360] threat only applies if they threaten, if they actually exhibit a weapon and point it at [01:14:29.360 --> 01:14:32.400] you and make a threat of immediate harm. [01:14:32.400 --> 01:14:35.880] Now I've insisted that's not what the statute says. [01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:39.760] Nope, and that's not how they treat people that say something in public like I'm going [01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:43.840] to kill you and they don't show a weapon, they don't do nothing. [01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:48.000] Well yeah, that's what the prosecutor said that that's the only thing they prosecute [01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:51.960] and I said well I'm not too concerned about what you want to do, what you don't want [01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:52.960] to do. [01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:59.440] What I'm concerned about is what the law says and since I'm making accusations against [01:14:59.440 --> 01:15:05.840] public officials, I implicate the bailiff as well. [01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:13.200] So all of them are going to be well unhappy, but once I get past that, okay I just got [01:15:13.200 --> 01:15:17.800] an email that said that municipal courts of record and county court judges are required [01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:25.240] to have a license, I don't know that, they're required to be practicing attorneys, I haven't [01:15:25.240 --> 01:15:26.240] seen where... [01:15:26.240 --> 01:15:28.200] In municipal courts of record they are, yes. [01:15:28.200 --> 01:15:32.960] Yeah, but I haven't seen where they have to have a license, a county judge and district [01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:33.960] judge... [01:15:33.960 --> 01:15:39.240] Wait, wait, wait, they cannot be practicing attorneys without a license. [01:15:39.240 --> 01:15:44.080] Yeah, well here's the problem. [01:15:44.080 --> 01:15:51.280] If they have practiced as attorneys and the issue hasn't come up, then they will practice [01:15:51.280 --> 01:15:52.280] as attorneys. [01:15:52.280 --> 01:15:58.040] If they're in good standing with the bar, then my problem is is when they're sitting [01:15:58.040 --> 01:16:02.960] on the bench they're not practicing law and a county judge and a district judge, they [01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:07.680] don't even have to keep a bar card, but they have to be attorneys, so they have to have [01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:16.480] passed the bar, but they no longer have to keep their bar card or license. [01:16:16.480 --> 01:16:21.360] So I don't know for certain I can make that accusation. [01:16:21.360 --> 01:16:26.880] The fact that he's an attorney, they have to be an attorney, well that doesn't mean [01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:33.280] he's licensed or authorized to practice law in the state, but sitting as a judge he's [01:16:33.280 --> 01:16:38.840] not practicing law, he's a judge, so he doesn't need it, so I would like to have that shot [01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:45.320] at him, but it will be a long shot to get that one, but I can get him for acting in [01:16:45.320 --> 01:16:48.040] concert inclusions or get him equally guilty. [01:16:48.040 --> 01:16:49.040] Callers are building up... [01:16:49.040 --> 01:16:54.000] Yeah, we've got Guy, we've got Jim and Dan, so we'll go to your calls and we'll get back [01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:55.000] on the other side. [01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:56.000] This is the rule of law. [01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:57.000] We'll be right back. [01:16:57.000 --> 01:17:05.440] It is so enlightening to listen to 90.1 FM, but finding things on the Internet isn't so [01:17:05.440 --> 01:17:09.160] easy, and neither is finding like-minded people to share it with. [01:17:09.160 --> 01:17:12.080] Oh, well I guess you haven't heard of Brave New Books then. [01:17:12.080 --> 01:17:13.080] Brave New Books? [01:17:13.080 --> 01:17:17.880] Yes, Brave New Books has all the books and DVDs you're looking for by authors like Alex [01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:20.480] Jones, Ron Paul, and G. Edward Griffin. [01:17:20.480 --> 01:17:23.800] They even stock inner food, Berkey products, and Calvin Soaps. [01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:26.760] There's no way a place like that exists. [01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:28.240] Go check it out for yourself. [01:17:28.240 --> 01:17:32.600] It's downtown at 1904 Guadalupe Street, just south of UT. [01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:35.960] By UT, there's never anywhere to park down there. [01:17:35.960 --> 01:17:41.200] Actually, they now offer a free hour of parking for paying customers at the 500 MLK parking [01:17:41.200 --> 01:17:44.200] facility, just behind the bookstore. [01:17:44.200 --> 01:17:47.160] It does exist, but when are they open? [01:17:47.160 --> 01:17:51.960] Monday through Saturday, 11 AM to 9 PM, and 1 to 6 PM on Sundays. [01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:58.640] So give them a call at 512-480-2503, or check out their events page at bravenewbookstore.com. [01:18:22.280 --> 01:18:30.560] me with that same old trick again I was blindsided, but now I can see your plans [01:18:31.040 --> 01:18:35.720] you put the fear in my pocket took the money from my hand [01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:40.520] ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again [01:18:40.520 --> 01:19:01.920] All right, we are back, we're taking your call, we're going to go to Guy in Arkansas. [01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:05.120] Guy, thanks for calling in, what's on your mind tonight? [01:19:05.120 --> 01:19:07.560] Good evening, beautiful people. [01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:09.120] Oh, thank you. [01:19:09.120 --> 01:19:18.880] Absolutely, look, I was listening to John Statham on a show today and he had read something [01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:30.880] about the FCC, he used to deal with the radio, the pirate stations, and he read something [01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:38.040] out of the FCC code, something to do with, I apologize for not being detailed about exactly [01:19:38.040 --> 01:19:43.720] what he was reading, I'd have to listen to the archives, they'd pull it out. [01:19:43.720 --> 01:19:51.040] But anyway, he says that the Fed has absolutely no jurisdiction in the state when the radio [01:19:51.040 --> 01:19:56.400] that you are operating does not extend beyond state boundaries. [01:19:56.400 --> 01:20:03.840] The only time that they can get involved is when your radio signal goes beyond the state [01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:08.800] boundary into another state, then they can come in and act. [01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:09.800] Wait a minute. [01:20:09.800 --> 01:20:10.800] That's not exactly true. [01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:20.640] What Title 47 says is that when the effects of radio signal either extend beyond the state [01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:27.800] and interfere with another signal in another state, or if the effects from another signal [01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:34.080] extend into this state, or if the effects of your signal interfere with other signals [01:20:34.080 --> 01:20:37.320] from other states communicating with each other. [01:20:37.320 --> 01:20:45.280] This is paragraph D of section 301 of Title 47. [01:20:45.280 --> 01:20:50.080] He's not wording it correctly, but that's one of the basis of our entire argument. [01:20:50.080 --> 01:20:53.640] I've already completely dissected Title 47. [01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:57.280] That chump Statham Miller has been reading Deborah's pleading. [01:20:57.280 --> 01:21:00.720] Absolutely so, but he's misquoting my work. [01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:05.760] What I'm saying is that the punch line to what he was saying was as long as your radio [01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:13.640] signal stays within the state, the FCC, the Fed cannot come in and hassle you about your [01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:14.640] signal. [01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:15.800] Well, that's not exactly true. [01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:17.180] That's not what the title says. [01:21:17.180 --> 01:21:18.760] That's not what the statute says. [01:21:18.760 --> 01:21:25.160] It says when the effects, because it is impossible to completely contain a radio signal. [01:21:25.160 --> 01:21:27.760] It is raw plasma energy. [01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:37.560] What a radio station is, what that antenna and transmitter really is, is a tiny star. [01:21:37.560 --> 01:21:45.080] The colloquialism being on the air is not an accurate description of what we actually [01:21:45.080 --> 01:21:46.080] do. [01:21:46.080 --> 01:21:47.220] We are not on the air. [01:21:47.220 --> 01:21:49.240] We don't need air. [01:21:49.240 --> 01:21:51.200] It's not a sound wave. [01:21:51.200 --> 01:21:53.640] It is a plasma wave. [01:21:53.640 --> 01:21:59.000] It is a very tiny sliver of raw plasma like a star. [01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:02.600] A star is like full spectrum plasma energy. [01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:09.680] The radio station, the radio signal is raw plasma energy, a tiny sliver of that spectrum. [01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:17.600] It goes out into all directions, into the entire universe through the vacuum. [01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:22.120] You cannot contain the transmission at all. [01:22:22.120 --> 01:22:28.000] It goes out forever and ever and ever into the entire universe. [01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:38.080] That's why the way the statute is worded is that the effects of the broadcast cannot extend [01:22:38.080 --> 01:22:39.520] beyond the borders of the state. [01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:41.200] In other words, you can't cure it. [01:22:41.200 --> 01:22:46.720] You can't pick it up through reasonable, normal receivers. [01:22:46.720 --> 01:22:48.720] That's not correct, what he's saying. [01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:51.280] That's not what the law says. [01:22:51.280 --> 01:22:57.880] The effects are defined by field strength, so you can define the effective range of the [01:22:57.880 --> 01:22:58.880] transmitter. [01:22:58.880 --> 01:23:00.800] That's not what the law says. [01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:03.720] The law says it doesn't go that far to specify. [01:23:03.720 --> 01:23:06.400] I'll email it to you and you can check it out. [01:23:06.400 --> 01:23:10.880] Anyway, the other part of my call tonight is, are you familiar with a gentleman called [01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:13.880] Ron Klass, C-L-A-S-S? [01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:16.880] Oh yeah. [01:23:16.880 --> 01:23:19.600] Rod Klass, are you are familiar with him? [01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:20.600] Yes I am. [01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:21.600] Okay. [01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:31.200] Then you are familiar about his paperwork dealing with the 11th Amendment and some other... [01:23:31.200 --> 01:23:36.520] He does real good work, but I have some problems with some of his citations. [01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:41.520] I haven't been happy with the case law that he cites. [01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:46.360] When I go to the case law, I don't find the verbiage he attributes to it sometimes. [01:23:46.360 --> 01:23:52.800] Well, I always bring this up because I just kind of discovered him through someone's email [01:23:52.800 --> 01:24:00.120] as listening to his talk show radio shows that he was being interviewed on. [01:24:00.120 --> 01:24:06.040] What impresses me about the man is that he's extremely well-versed in his knowledge and [01:24:06.040 --> 01:24:11.640] he's gone through the process and through the lawsuits and the appeals and that sort [01:24:11.640 --> 01:24:12.640] of stuff. [01:24:12.640 --> 01:24:19.400] I thought that since he was...he might have been a gem in the rough that no one's discovered. [01:24:19.400 --> 01:24:22.040] Let me restate that. [01:24:22.040 --> 01:24:27.480] He is a great researcher and I'm not challenging that at all. [01:24:27.480 --> 01:24:30.440] He has done some really interesting research. [01:24:30.440 --> 01:24:33.920] Just be careful about quoting his citations. [01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:37.240] Sometimes he's not as particular there as he could be. [01:24:37.240 --> 01:24:39.840] Well, I'll grant you, none of us are. [01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:45.360] I mean, we're not perfect in all ways and manners, but forgive him for whatever faults [01:24:45.360 --> 01:24:47.360] he may have. [01:24:47.360 --> 01:24:54.560] The email that I got addressed his four documents that he presents, that someone can present [01:24:54.560 --> 01:25:05.720] to a court and have the court either declare itself common law or statutory or administrative. [01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:10.000] Basically, I haven't looked at his paperwork yet. [01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:13.960] I emailed him trying to get copies of it, but just listening to the radio shows that [01:25:13.960 --> 01:25:21.800] he's been on, the latest show that he did, some couple who lost their children to family [01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:29.280] services used his paperwork and got their kids back in two hours. [01:25:29.280 --> 01:25:34.760] He says he doesn't know exactly the paperwork that they used, but it did have to do with [01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:37.520] some of the paperwork he has already perspective. [01:25:37.520 --> 01:25:44.000] I just thought that he might be a great guest to have on if you can get him on and maybe [01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:47.280] you can share some of his knowledge with us. [01:25:47.280 --> 01:25:48.280] Yeah. [01:25:48.280 --> 01:25:53.720] One of my biggest complaints with him is he's so far over my head I don't understand most [01:25:53.720 --> 01:25:54.720] of it. [01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:57.960] Well, that's what a great researcher does. [01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:01.800] What they say is the devil is in the details and of course the devil as we know him has [01:26:01.800 --> 01:26:09.000] made the details so complicated that it takes a genius to read through it. [01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:13.680] He is a really good researcher and it's really deep stuff that he does. [01:26:13.680 --> 01:26:20.240] I think that he's worth considering and maybe you can utilize some of his documentation [01:26:20.240 --> 01:26:24.280] and efforts to increase the power of what you folks are doing. [01:26:24.280 --> 01:26:26.200] I think that's all I really have to say tonight. [01:26:26.200 --> 01:26:27.200] God bless you all. [01:26:27.200 --> 01:26:30.840] Have a great week and I'll be hearing you on the airwaves. [01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:31.840] All right. [01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:32.840] All right. [01:26:32.840 --> 01:26:33.840] Thanks, Guy. [01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:42.600] I'm going to read here now Section 301 from Title 47 regarding licenses for radio communications [01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:45.480] or transmissions of energy. [01:26:45.480 --> 01:26:51.680] This is what it says, �No person shall use or operate any apparatus for the transmission [01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:57.240] of energy or communications or signals by radio.� By the way, those are all three [01:26:57.240 --> 01:27:03.840] different things which I have also written a brief on that, but at any rate without a [01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:11.680] license and here it is, �Paragraph D, within any state when the effects of such use extend [01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:19.320] beyond the borders of said state or when interference is caused by such use or operation with the [01:27:19.320 --> 01:27:26.320] transmission of such energy communications or signals from within said state to any place [01:27:26.320 --> 01:27:32.080] beyond its borders or from any place beyond its borders to any place within said state [01:27:32.080 --> 01:27:38.920] or with the transmission or reception of such energy communications signals from and or [01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:46.200] to places beyond borders of said state.� Breaking it down, what that means is that [01:27:46.200 --> 01:27:54.440] when the effects of the transmission of signals or energy or communications extend beyond [01:27:54.440 --> 01:27:58.080] the borders, then you have to have a license. [01:27:58.080 --> 01:28:09.000] If the effects cause any interference anywhere outside of the state, then the FCC has jurisdiction [01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:10.600] to do something about it. [01:28:10.600 --> 01:28:19.060] If the effects cause any interference from another transmission to a place inside that [01:28:19.060 --> 01:28:21.680] state, they can do something about it. [01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:29.040] If the effects cause interference from transmissions to and from places beyond the borders of the [01:28:29.040 --> 01:28:31.120] state, they can do something about it. [01:28:31.120 --> 01:28:39.280] I will add that the definition of the word state in Title 47 does not include any of [01:28:39.280 --> 01:28:40.960] the 50 states of the Union. [01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:46.480] It only includes US territories and possessions in the District of Columbia. [01:28:46.480 --> 01:28:48.560] That is even another dimension. [01:28:48.560 --> 01:28:56.160] It is not really accurate to say if the radio signal goes beyond the state because, like [01:28:56.160 --> 01:29:05.120] I said, it is raw plasma energy extending into all infinity of the universe through [01:29:05.120 --> 01:29:10.680] the vacuum just like a star at the speed of light. [01:29:10.680 --> 01:29:13.720] You cannot just say it cannot be contained. [01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:14.720] It goes everywhere. [01:29:14.720 --> 01:29:20.200] Let us also not forget the aspect that commerce has to be affected. [01:29:20.200 --> 01:29:24.720] Commerce has to be affected too under the Constitution, yes. [01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:32.400] That is what the law says and that is what the case law supports and so that is one of [01:29:32.400 --> 01:29:34.960] the foundational pillars of our argument. [01:29:34.960 --> 01:29:45.320] I have done lots of research on this, people, of the last six, eight months to quote the [01:29:45.320 --> 01:29:47.720] entire Title 47 from memory at this point. [01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:48.720] All right. [01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:50.040] We are continuing to take your calls. [01:29:50.040 --> 01:29:52.480] We have got Jim, Dan and others. [01:29:52.480 --> 01:29:54.120] We have got half an hour left. [01:29:54.120 --> 01:30:00.240] This is the rule of law. [01:30:00.240 --> 01:30:04.400] My name is Randall Kelton and I co-host on Rule of Law Radio. [01:30:04.400 --> 01:30:09.200] We specialize in showing people how to strike back against corrupt public officials. [01:30:09.200 --> 01:30:13.720] With the mortgage crisis worsening, we set our sights on finding a remedy for people [01:30:13.720 --> 01:30:15.760] who have been cheated by their lenders. 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[01:31:15.800 --> 01:31:17.680] We've got a half an hour left. [01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:22.840] Callers if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984. [01:31:22.840 --> 01:31:24.560] We're going to go to Jim in Texas now. [01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:25.560] Jim, thanks for calling in. [01:31:25.560 --> 01:31:26.560] What's on your mind tonight? [01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:28.080] How are you tonight? [01:31:28.080 --> 01:31:29.080] I have a question. [01:31:29.080 --> 01:31:36.560] It's a little bit off point from tonight's topics, but mine is basically on corporations [01:31:36.560 --> 01:31:46.400] and I'm curious to know if anybody knows much about the LLC, Limited Liability Company versus [01:31:46.400 --> 01:31:47.400] the corporation. [01:31:47.400 --> 01:31:52.560] Well an LLC is a corporation. [01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:56.320] It stands for Limited Liability Company. [01:31:56.320 --> 01:31:59.760] And the limited part is what makes it a corporation. [01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:03.360] The state limits their liability for whatever. [01:32:03.360 --> 01:32:08.480] It's a privilege granted by the state in accordance with the rules of being an LLC. [01:32:08.480 --> 01:32:12.120] All it is is just a different name for another type of corporation. [01:32:12.120 --> 01:32:18.880] Okay, so a limited liability company is a corporation. [01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:23.040] It doesn't have all the same protections and all the same rules, but it's got enough of [01:32:23.040 --> 01:32:24.040] them. [01:32:24.040 --> 01:32:30.320] So it gains a benefit from the state for putting itself under that umbrella, for lack of a [01:32:30.320 --> 01:32:31.320] better phrase. [01:32:31.320 --> 01:32:36.520] Well, I guess what I'm trying to figure out, and it's very vague the way the laws or the [01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:42.720] way that the case laws have been and stuff like that, is as far as finding out whether [01:32:42.720 --> 01:32:50.840] you are required to go after one of the owners of it is if you have to pierce the corporate [01:32:50.840 --> 01:32:51.840] veil. [01:32:51.840 --> 01:32:53.180] Yes, you do. [01:32:53.180 --> 01:32:55.200] That's what the limited part is all about. [01:32:55.200 --> 01:32:59.760] And in some states, you can't even find out who the members are. [01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:04.240] They're technically called members, member owners. [01:33:04.240 --> 01:33:09.280] In some cases, there's no way to find out who they even are because there are some states [01:33:09.280 --> 01:33:15.680] where one of them I know is New Mexico, there are other states that have very, very protective [01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:22.120] laws of LLCs and the member owners of the LLC do not even have to register themselves [01:33:22.120 --> 01:33:26.440] with the state, so depending on what state you are, it's going to have much different [01:33:26.440 --> 01:33:27.440] structures. [01:33:27.440 --> 01:33:28.440] Right. [01:33:28.440 --> 01:33:36.480] And I'm in Texas, and I mean, it's a really, it's kind of a, they've layered this thing. [01:33:36.480 --> 01:33:46.720] It's a company that's got their assumed name, so the LLC is doing business as an assumed [01:33:46.720 --> 01:33:47.880] name. [01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:54.240] When they registered in the county for the DBA, they said they were doing, the type of [01:33:54.240 --> 01:34:00.040] business they were performing was an LLC, which I don't know how you do, but... [01:34:00.040 --> 01:34:01.920] Well, that doesn't even make any sense. [01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:06.320] I mean, if you're going to set up an LLC, you wouldn't want to do a DBA. [01:34:06.320 --> 01:34:15.040] Well, no, they've already done the LLC, and the LLC is doing business as, they have several [01:34:15.040 --> 01:34:20.560] different companies that are under this LLC, I guess. [01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:25.280] But I know the owner, and I've got the paperwork from the Secretary of State and the paperwork [01:34:25.280 --> 01:34:35.040] from the county clerk and recorder as far as the DBA, and I know who the owner is, but [01:34:35.040 --> 01:34:39.040] the owner and one of the managers are who I'm going after, so I'm trying to figure out. [01:34:39.040 --> 01:34:46.000] I just needed to know whether to, I should have to try to pierce the corporate veil, [01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:53.800] and because I've seen law cases that, you know, they've claimed exemptions under failure [01:34:53.800 --> 01:34:59.120] to pierce, but sometimes they hold up and sometimes they don't. [01:34:59.120 --> 01:35:05.280] Well, if the company has harmed you, why aren't you just going after the company? [01:35:05.280 --> 01:35:09.760] Well, you can go after the company all you want, but the company doesn't basically own [01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:10.760] anything. [01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:14.040] I mean, that's the reason that they do it. [01:35:14.040 --> 01:35:15.040] The company's... [01:35:15.040 --> 01:35:20.880] You're going to somehow have to pierce that veil or show that these individuals harmed [01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:21.880] you personally. [01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:24.040] It's just a lot more hassle doing it. [01:35:24.040 --> 01:35:28.760] If you could show that they harmed you personally, then that would be another way around it. [01:35:28.760 --> 01:35:34.080] Well, I mean, I can prove that they did it with malice, too, so, I mean, it's not a problem. [01:35:34.080 --> 01:35:39.680] I just didn't want to have to go through the extra work of going that way if I didn't have [01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:40.680] to. [01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:42.520] But if it... [01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:49.400] I kind of assume that it had the characteristics of a corporation, even though it... [01:35:49.400 --> 01:35:55.360] I mean, everything you read on it is a limited liability company. [01:35:55.360 --> 01:35:58.160] There's the act that formed the company. [01:35:58.160 --> 01:36:02.400] You look up law cases, you find hundreds of them on limited liability companies, and then [01:36:02.400 --> 01:36:11.200] a few on limited liability corporations, and that was... [01:36:11.200 --> 01:36:16.320] There's a difference, I guess, and Texas has both limited liability corporations and limited [01:36:16.320 --> 01:36:20.000] liability companies, which was kind of strange. [01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:25.400] Well, yeah, every state is going to have a slightly different setup, and that will be [01:36:25.400 --> 01:36:28.160] in the statutes of each state. [01:36:28.160 --> 01:36:34.840] So you have to first figure out which state this LLC was formed under and look at the [01:36:34.840 --> 01:36:35.840] statutes of that state. [01:36:35.840 --> 01:36:36.840] Well, they are... [01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:41.240] Yeah, everything was here in Texas, and that's why I said it was strange that you have both [01:36:41.240 --> 01:36:45.680] limited liability companies and limited liability corporations in the same state. [01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:47.080] They have different definitions. [01:36:47.080 --> 01:36:49.480] You have to look it up in the statute. [01:36:49.480 --> 01:36:52.320] They're going to have different degrees of protection for the member owners. [01:36:52.320 --> 01:36:54.520] Yeah, that's what I haven't been able to find, so... [01:36:54.520 --> 01:37:00.040] I know that it is a limited liability company because it says that on the Charter for... [01:37:00.040 --> 01:37:02.560] That should be on the Secretary of State's website. [01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:03.560] Yeah, I've already... [01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:07.200] I've gotten the paper from the Secretary of State that shows that. [01:37:07.200 --> 01:37:16.360] I just was curious, and I think that's probably what I ought to go through to prove that I [01:37:16.360 --> 01:37:20.920] can't pierce the corporate veil and make them personally liable, whether I have to or not. [01:37:20.920 --> 01:37:24.840] Hopefully it'll be the safest thing to do, so... [01:37:24.840 --> 01:37:25.840] Right. [01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:26.840] Okay. [01:37:26.840 --> 01:37:30.800] Well, I appreciate it, and you answered my question pretty good. [01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:31.800] I appreciate it. [01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:32.800] Okay. [01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:33.800] Sure, Jim. [01:37:33.800 --> 01:37:34.800] Thanks. [01:37:34.800 --> 01:37:35.800] Bye. [01:37:35.800 --> 01:37:36.800] Bye-bye. [01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:37.800] Okay, callers, we've got about 20 minutes left. [01:37:37.800 --> 01:37:41.160] If you all want to just call in, 512-646-1984. [01:37:41.160 --> 01:37:42.800] We've got Dan from Texas. [01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:44.160] Dan, thanks for calling in. [01:37:44.160 --> 01:37:45.160] What's on your mind tonight? [01:37:45.160 --> 01:37:47.160] Oh, not too much, Deborah. [01:37:47.160 --> 01:37:52.280] I just...I was listening to the program, and I actually had a little traffic adventure [01:37:52.280 --> 01:37:58.240] myself today, and it was kind of amusing, but, you know, the typical Mickey Mouse. [01:37:58.240 --> 01:38:03.880] But I was actually raising the fact that the officer did not specify a time to appear, [01:38:03.880 --> 01:38:13.600] like Transportation Code Section 543.006A says, okay, and pursuant to 543.08, I believe [01:38:13.600 --> 01:38:17.800] was the right number for violation by officer, I told her that I wanted to swear out a criminal [01:38:17.800 --> 01:38:24.920] complaint against the officer, okay, for official misconduct, and her response was that because [01:38:24.920 --> 01:38:29.880] that statute says the time specified in the notice to appear must be at least 10 days [01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:34.800] after the date of arrest, instead of it says shall be 10 days after the date of arrest, [01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:39.320] that it's not mandatory, that the word must is not mandatory in that statute, and therefore [01:38:39.320 --> 01:38:44.440] the officer hasn't committed a crime, which I thought was kind of amusing. [01:38:44.440 --> 01:38:50.560] Well, what the judge would have had to do is hold an examining trial. [01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:51.560] I'm sorry? [01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:55.040] She held an examining trial without holding an examining trial. [01:38:55.040 --> 01:38:57.640] Well, yeah, they refused to do the examining trial. [01:38:57.640 --> 01:38:59.640] I was there to get magistrated by the judge. [01:38:59.640 --> 01:39:05.120] I was actually there to...on his jurisdiction also, and I attempted to write some federal [01:39:05.120 --> 01:39:11.040] law, and what Lucky said was, and I printed off some stuff from the Cornell website, and [01:39:11.040 --> 01:39:14.480] she said, did you graduate from Cornell, and I said, ma'am, I don't have to do a license [01:39:14.480 --> 01:39:15.480] to turn out. [01:39:15.480 --> 01:39:16.480] I have to graduate. [01:39:16.480 --> 01:39:17.480] Dan, you're cutting out really bad. [01:39:17.480 --> 01:39:18.480] Well, what? [01:39:18.480 --> 01:39:19.480] Can't you hear me? [01:39:19.480 --> 01:39:20.480] Barely. [01:39:20.480 --> 01:39:25.480] Your cell phone battery is dying, or you're, like, out in the boonies or something. [01:39:25.480 --> 01:39:28.480] No, I'm out in the boonies, but usually it works okay. [01:39:28.480 --> 01:39:29.480] Can you hear me now? [01:39:29.480 --> 01:39:30.480] Yeah, better. [01:39:30.480 --> 01:39:31.480] Okay. [01:39:31.480 --> 01:39:32.480] I'm sorry. [01:39:32.480 --> 01:39:33.480] I moved away. [01:39:33.480 --> 01:39:36.480] I thought I had the speakers off, and I thought that would be okay. [01:39:36.480 --> 01:39:37.480] Okay. [01:39:37.480 --> 01:39:40.280] Well, let me interject here for a second, Dan. [01:39:40.280 --> 01:39:49.560] According to Government Code, Chapter 311.016, shall, imposes a duty, must, creates or recognizes [01:39:49.560 --> 01:39:58.080] a condition precedent, meaning it must exist before anything that follows can be done. [01:39:58.080 --> 01:40:04.440] Well, her position was that it wasn't mandatory, therefore, he didn't violate a duty imposed [01:40:04.440 --> 01:40:08.360] upon him, which would be the definition of official misconduct, because I was telling [01:40:08.360 --> 01:40:10.240] her he committed official misconduct. [01:40:10.240 --> 01:40:16.760] But anyway, I'm going to be back for round two, probably, with these people. [01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:22.280] But the thing was, when I was trying to introduce some federal law, basically, I printed it [01:40:22.280 --> 01:40:26.520] off the Cornell website, and the lady said that I couldn't validate it. [01:40:26.520 --> 01:40:30.560] That I couldn't authenticate it. [01:40:30.560 --> 01:40:33.480] And it was actually an article out of the United States Constitution that I was trying [01:40:33.480 --> 01:40:34.480] to introduce. [01:40:34.480 --> 01:40:35.480] Okay. [01:40:35.480 --> 01:40:39.120] Her position was that I wasn't an attorney, and even if I was, I couldn't authenticate [01:40:39.120 --> 01:40:40.120] that document. [01:40:40.120 --> 01:40:41.120] Okay. [01:40:41.120 --> 01:40:44.320] And I felt like telling her, and I was on the verge of telling her, what do you want [01:40:44.320 --> 01:40:45.320] me to do? [01:40:45.320 --> 01:40:47.200] Dig up the Founding Fathers and have them come in here and testify? [01:40:47.200 --> 01:40:48.880] That's what they wrote? [01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:49.880] It's available on the Internet. [01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:53.400] It's also available in the fall books. [01:40:53.400 --> 01:40:59.960] But that's just what you deal with when you deal with these Mickey Mouse J.P. court. [01:40:59.960 --> 01:41:02.560] That's why I like to ask the bailiffs to arrest them. [01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:05.680] Yeah, Randy, but they're not going to do it. [01:41:05.680 --> 01:41:06.680] Not for me. [01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:07.680] They may for you, but I don't think that was... [01:41:07.680 --> 01:41:13.800] No, they don't arrest them for me either, but then I get to go after the bailiffs. [01:41:13.800 --> 01:41:15.280] Then they get more serious. [01:41:15.280 --> 01:41:20.880] Well, see, people wonder why my motions are always so long and lengthy. [01:41:20.880 --> 01:41:27.120] It's so that there are no loopholes for these morons to try to crawl through. [01:41:27.120 --> 01:41:28.760] This was basically just the first round. [01:41:28.760 --> 01:41:32.760] I didn't expect much more than that because it's a strange county and they've never dealt [01:41:32.760 --> 01:41:33.760] with me before. [01:41:33.760 --> 01:41:38.960] The local counties usually don't try to pull that kind of stuff with me, but these people [01:41:38.960 --> 01:41:43.840] haven't really been trained very well. [01:41:43.840 --> 01:41:47.000] So I take it you'll get them trained pretty good? [01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:49.080] Well, I'm going to go down there. [01:41:49.080 --> 01:41:55.120] When I already filed a motion to accuse the judge, I went to that hearing, and I filed [01:41:55.120 --> 01:41:59.240] my complaint against the officer in the file, and I'm also going to file a complaint against [01:41:59.240 --> 01:42:02.680] the prosecutor, even though it's a waste of time with the state bar, and I'm going to [01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:08.440] file a complaint against the judge with the Judicial Conduct Committee. [01:42:08.440 --> 01:42:14.080] That's not always a waste of time because they need to crucify a judge on occasion and [01:42:14.080 --> 01:42:19.160] they'll generally do it to a municipal judge or JP. [01:42:19.160 --> 01:42:22.960] They like municipal judge because they're easy marks and it makes them look like they're [01:42:22.960 --> 01:42:23.960] doing something. [01:42:23.960 --> 01:42:28.800] A friend of mine's brother was a municipal judge and the Judicial Conduct Commission [01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:29.800] terrified him. [01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:34.800] What I also did was I've already got a kind of printed out handout, but I didn't have [01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:35.800] time today. [01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:38.320] This was all the way in Fredericksburg and I kind of live outside of Austin, but I told [01:42:38.320 --> 01:42:42.240] them that next time I have another day off, I'll be outside there handing out my little [01:42:42.240 --> 01:42:43.240] information sheet. [01:42:43.240 --> 01:42:46.800] I'll have to fax it to you all one of these times or email it to you, because I like to [01:42:46.800 --> 01:42:48.720] start doing it around here in central Texas. [01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:53.000] I've got a little information sheet basically pointing out the ticket violates the law, [01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:57.280] the officer commits a crime, they have no complaint filed against you when you first go in there, [01:42:57.280 --> 01:43:02.440] the judge generates the complaint, and kind of just some bullet points and try to educate [01:43:02.440 --> 01:43:08.480] the people, which is something that would be great if we could get some kind of group [01:43:08.480 --> 01:43:12.840] together to do that, just go to these courthouses and actually hand out some sheets explaining [01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:13.840] how the traffic thing works. [01:43:13.840 --> 01:43:14.840] Yeah, that would be great. [01:43:14.840 --> 01:43:15.840] I can't... [01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:16.840] I tried to arrest you for soliciting. [01:43:16.840 --> 01:43:17.840] I enjoyed the program. [01:43:17.840 --> 01:43:27.000] I shot you an email, Eddie, a while back, going I'd be curious what you thought about what [01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:28.000] I sent you. [01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:32.040] Actually, I just saw the email and responded to it. [01:43:32.040 --> 01:43:37.240] I don't have you in my address book, so I've never gotten an email from you at the address [01:43:37.240 --> 01:43:39.320] you just asked me about. [01:43:39.320 --> 01:43:42.440] So I haven't seen the material you're talking about, I don't believe. [01:43:42.440 --> 01:43:45.120] If you'll resend it, I'll be happy to look at it. [01:43:45.120 --> 01:43:47.120] How can I get it to you? [01:43:47.120 --> 01:43:51.360] Well, I mean, I got the email where you're asking me if I'd read it. [01:43:51.360 --> 01:43:53.560] Okay, listen, we're going to break. [01:43:53.560 --> 01:43:54.560] We're going to break. [01:43:54.560 --> 01:43:56.560] Just send it to eddie at ruleoflawradio.com. 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[01:46:14.480 --> 01:46:20.600] Alright callers, if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984, this is our final segment, we're [01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:26.480] going into the home stretch, so we're talking right now about how to handle tickets and [01:46:26.480 --> 01:46:32.560] we were just discussing the temporary restraining order against, now Randy, who would this be [01:46:32.560 --> 01:46:40.280] against, would it be against the municipal courts from issuing a warrant like in general [01:46:40.280 --> 01:46:45.520] or against a specific judge, I mean who would the TRO be against? [01:46:45.520 --> 01:46:51.600] We don't have a specific judge because in Austin they play juggle the judges. [01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:52.600] Is that even legal? [01:46:52.600 --> 01:46:54.880] I don't see how that's legal. [01:46:54.880 --> 01:47:00.680] Different issue, I don't think it is either but in any case that's what they do so we [01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:08.040] don't have a singular judge to point at, we file it against the municipal court itself. [01:47:08.040 --> 01:47:11.800] Okay, that's what I wanted to know. [01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:15.720] And Damis to order them to give you a... [01:47:15.720 --> 01:47:17.080] To set a motion hearing. [01:47:17.080 --> 01:47:20.440] Yeah, set a hearing for... [01:47:20.440 --> 01:47:28.760] His motion for a retrial, it's actually for a retrial, for a new trial. [01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:35.640] So okay, I go to court, I hammer the district attorney, I mean the prosecuting attorney [01:47:35.640 --> 01:47:42.280] and I hammer the judge and ask him to bailiff to arrest both of them, if there's no bailiff [01:47:42.280 --> 01:47:48.560] then the officer who is unfortunate enough to write me the ticket, I ask him to arrest [01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:56.080] both of them and he's not gonna wanna do that so then I ask the judge or the prosecutor [01:47:56.080 --> 01:48:03.240] to have the officer arrested for not arresting them and I've done that before and it really [01:48:03.240 --> 01:48:07.520] gets kind of nonsensical. [01:48:07.520 --> 01:48:12.680] They tend to not be sure if I'm joking or not joking and they really don't know what [01:48:12.680 --> 01:48:13.680] to do. [01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:20.080] Then he's gonna refuse and then I'm gonna ask the judge to get a marshal in here, someone [01:48:20.080 --> 01:48:24.840] who's a real police officer to take my complaints against all of you guys. [01:48:24.840 --> 01:48:29.160] Well, if they knew what they were doing to begin with, we wouldn't have been in the court [01:48:29.160 --> 01:48:30.680] but that's a whole nother point. [01:48:30.680 --> 01:48:39.720] Okay, once we've done that and the judge has blown off all of that and he wants to continue, [01:48:39.720 --> 01:48:42.280] where do I start with them? [01:48:42.280 --> 01:48:44.760] Subject matter jurisdiction, first place. [01:48:44.760 --> 01:48:45.760] Always. [01:48:45.760 --> 01:48:49.920] Where is the first place I start with them? [01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:54.720] Well that's what I'm saying, the first place is where is my administrative hearing? [01:48:54.720 --> 01:48:59.440] How does this court get jurisdiction in a judicial venue when there's been no administrative [01:48:59.440 --> 01:49:02.280] hearing in accordance with the Administrative Procedures Act? [01:49:02.280 --> 01:49:06.320] Do you have the citation on that? [01:49:06.320 --> 01:49:07.960] I got a whole brief on that. [01:49:07.960 --> 01:49:10.440] No, you have it right now so I can write it down. [01:49:10.440 --> 01:49:11.440] Oh. [01:49:11.440 --> 01:49:16.360] I don't want to read a whole brief to the judge. [01:49:16.360 --> 01:49:22.240] Section 2001 Government Code is the Administrative Procedures Act, Chapter 2001. [01:49:22.240 --> 01:49:26.520] Okay, now you sound like Ralph Winneroot. [01:49:26.520 --> 01:49:27.520] Well no. [01:49:27.520 --> 01:49:30.880] I was kind of hoping you'd be a little more specific. [01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:32.680] Well here's the problem. [01:49:32.680 --> 01:49:38.800] Each and every single chapter and or possible section of the transportation code for which [01:49:38.800 --> 01:49:44.880] they're attempting to charge you, each chapter says who is in charge of it and who makes [01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:48.860] the rules for it and who is the administrative agency. [01:49:48.860 --> 01:49:55.720] So not only would you have to quote the specific 2001 reference for the Administrative Procedures [01:49:55.720 --> 01:50:05.400] Act, but you have to say in pursuant, Chapter 521.002, Department means the Department of [01:50:05.400 --> 01:50:11.600] Public Safety who is classified as an administrative agency pursuant, Government Code, Chapter [01:50:11.600 --> 01:50:12.600] 2001. [01:50:12.600 --> 01:50:14.480] You see what I'm saying? [01:50:14.480 --> 01:50:18.600] They've broken it down that far in each of these individual codes. [01:50:18.600 --> 01:50:23.200] Now I'm going to need to read the judge the brief. [01:50:23.200 --> 01:50:24.200] Pretty much. [01:50:24.200 --> 01:50:32.000] Okay, brief on the Administrative Procedures Act and it requires an administrative hearing [01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:34.120] before the court gets subject matter jurisdiction. [01:50:34.120 --> 01:50:38.840] It's like we have to put these people through law school, man, this is ridiculous. [01:50:38.840 --> 01:50:40.200] Now here's one thing, Randy. [01:50:40.200 --> 01:50:48.000] This specific requirement is out of Title 37, Chapter 29 of the Administrative Code. [01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:52.680] That is where it specifically states that anything falling under the view of the Department [01:50:52.680 --> 01:50:53.680] of Public Safety. [01:50:53.680 --> 01:50:57.320] You've just gone from Government Code to Administrative Code. [01:50:57.320 --> 01:50:58.320] Right. [01:50:58.320 --> 01:51:01.280] The Government Code deals with the Administrative Procedures Act. [01:51:01.280 --> 01:51:06.160] Yeah, but which one, how do I lead, which one do I go to first? [01:51:06.160 --> 01:51:12.720] The Administrative Code is what spells out that everything except certain specific charges [01:51:12.720 --> 01:51:15.440] fall under the Administrative Procedures Act. [01:51:15.440 --> 01:51:21.680] That is Title 37, Chapter 29, Department of Public Safety. [01:51:21.680 --> 01:51:27.280] Okay, Chapter 29 of Title 37. [01:51:27.280 --> 01:51:29.280] And it's a very short chapter. [01:51:29.280 --> 01:51:32.280] Okay. [01:51:32.280 --> 01:51:33.280] And we also have a caller, guys. [01:51:33.280 --> 01:51:34.280] Administrative Code. [01:51:34.280 --> 01:51:35.280] Yes. [01:51:35.280 --> 01:51:36.280] Okay. [01:51:36.280 --> 01:51:41.760] But now all of that is specifically spelled out in my brief. [01:51:41.760 --> 01:51:42.760] Okay. [01:51:42.760 --> 01:51:44.760] Then I'm going to have to read your brief. [01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:45.760] Okay. [01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:46.760] Twice. [01:51:46.760 --> 01:51:47.760] Robin from Florida. [01:51:47.760 --> 01:51:48.760] All right. [01:51:48.760 --> 01:51:49.760] Y'all want to go to Robin in Florida? [01:51:49.760 --> 01:51:50.760] Here we go. [01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:51.760] Okay. [01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:52.760] Thanks for calling in. [01:51:52.760 --> 01:51:53.760] What's on your mind tonight? [01:51:53.760 --> 01:51:54.760] Hey, guys. [01:51:54.760 --> 01:51:55.760] Thanks for taking my call. [01:51:55.760 --> 01:51:57.360] I'm really glad I found you guys. [01:51:57.360 --> 01:51:58.360] You guys are awesome. [01:51:58.360 --> 01:51:59.360] I appreciate all the information. [01:51:59.360 --> 01:52:00.360] Oh, sure. [01:52:00.360 --> 01:52:01.360] Thanks. [01:52:01.360 --> 01:52:06.760] I've got a mortgage foreclosure question, if that's okay? [01:52:06.760 --> 01:52:07.760] Sure. [01:52:07.760 --> 01:52:09.000] We have time. [01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:10.440] My question is this. [01:52:10.440 --> 01:52:16.000] I'm in foreclosure, obviously, and that's why I sort of found you guys. [01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:24.800] I put in a motion to dismiss here in the local court, and I went to a hearing on August, [01:52:24.800 --> 01:52:30.400] and I guess it was for the plaintiff called the hearing to present the note and whatnot. [01:52:30.400 --> 01:52:31.400] Okay. [01:52:31.400 --> 01:52:32.400] Wait, wait. [01:52:32.400 --> 01:52:33.400] What was the nature of the hearing? [01:52:33.400 --> 01:52:41.280] The nature of the hearing was to dismiss, or what's the word? [01:52:41.280 --> 01:52:42.840] My motion to dismiss, basically. [01:52:42.840 --> 01:52:43.840] Okay. [01:52:43.840 --> 01:52:50.080] What was the nature of the cause? [01:52:50.080 --> 01:52:51.080] Were they foreclosing? [01:52:51.080 --> 01:52:54.040] Did they have to do judicial foreclosures in Florida? [01:52:54.040 --> 01:52:55.040] Correct. [01:52:55.040 --> 01:52:56.040] This is a judicial state. [01:52:56.040 --> 01:52:58.840] So it was a judicial foreclosure proceeding? [01:52:58.840 --> 01:52:59.840] Yes. [01:52:59.840 --> 01:53:01.840] So I'm the defendant and the plaintiff- [01:53:01.840 --> 01:53:02.840] Okay. [01:53:02.840 --> 01:53:06.440] What were the causes for dismissal that you claimed? [01:53:06.440 --> 01:53:07.440] Correct. [01:53:07.440 --> 01:53:10.840] So my initial plea was a motion to dismiss. [01:53:10.840 --> 01:53:15.200] Actually, my attorney gave an answer, but I got rid of the attorney after I'm doing all [01:53:15.200 --> 01:53:16.200] this research. [01:53:16.200 --> 01:53:17.200] Okay. [01:53:17.200 --> 01:53:19.840] So what were the causes for dismissal? [01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:20.840] Correct. [01:53:20.840 --> 01:53:21.840] August- [01:53:21.840 --> 01:53:22.840] No, no, no. [01:53:22.840 --> 01:53:23.840] That wasn't- [01:53:23.840 --> 01:53:24.840] No, he's asking you a question. [01:53:24.840 --> 01:53:25.840] I'm asking a question. [01:53:25.840 --> 01:53:27.200] Oh, I'm sorry. [01:53:27.200 --> 01:53:30.520] What were the causes for dismissal? [01:53:30.520 --> 01:53:33.320] What claim did you make? [01:53:33.320 --> 01:53:37.240] That they didn't, first of all, they didn't even put the original note in the pleading [01:53:37.240 --> 01:53:39.720] as per the rules of civil procedure here in Florida. [01:53:39.720 --> 01:53:41.120] I can't quote the exact rule. [01:53:41.120 --> 01:53:42.120] Okay, good. [01:53:42.120 --> 01:53:44.760] So they didn't have the note. [01:53:44.760 --> 01:53:45.760] They didn't have an assignment. [01:53:45.760 --> 01:53:52.080] So they did all this stuff after the fact, which you cannot do as per the rules. [01:53:52.080 --> 01:53:55.760] So my motion was to dismiss the case because they had no legal standing. [01:53:55.760 --> 01:53:56.760] Perfect. [01:53:56.760 --> 01:53:57.760] What was the- [01:53:57.760 --> 01:53:59.960] To bring the case. [01:53:59.960 --> 01:54:02.320] I'm sort of new at all this, so I didn't know any of this. [01:54:02.320 --> 01:54:06.680] I got a guy that's sort of helping me, but that's not really my question. [01:54:06.680 --> 01:54:12.920] My question is, my judge is absolutely out of hand, and I found this out in the hearing. [01:54:12.920 --> 01:54:20.840] I go in there, August 29th, and I stated my case, and I said they have no right to foreclose. [01:54:20.840 --> 01:54:23.640] They didn't have any standing in the beginning. [01:54:23.640 --> 01:54:24.640] They don't have a note. [01:54:24.640 --> 01:54:25.640] They don't have this. [01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:26.640] They don't have that. [01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:32.800] I didn't quote all the rules because I'm just new at all this, and he just sort of went [01:54:32.800 --> 01:54:33.800] off on me. [01:54:33.800 --> 01:54:34.800] How so? [01:54:34.800 --> 01:54:36.840] What did he say? [01:54:36.840 --> 01:54:37.840] Here's what he did. [01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:43.560] He says, all they have to do is show that they had it in December, and if they had it [01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:46.160] in December, I'm willing to sanction you. [01:54:46.160 --> 01:54:49.160] Then he goes on to say, where did you get this? [01:54:49.160 --> 01:54:54.320] In other words, referencing my paperwork, which I had a guy who's helping me prepare [01:54:54.320 --> 01:54:56.680] it, and I know it's not junk. [01:54:56.680 --> 01:55:00.920] I know he knows what he's doing, and he just tells me it's a bunch of crap. [01:55:00.920 --> 01:55:02.720] I mean, he literally- This is all recorded. [01:55:02.720 --> 01:55:06.680] I had a court reporter, and then he asked me, when did you pay your mortgage? [01:55:06.680 --> 01:55:08.480] I said, Your Honor, that's irrelevant. [01:55:08.480 --> 01:55:09.480] He insisted. [01:55:09.480 --> 01:55:10.480] He insisted. [01:55:10.480 --> 01:55:11.480] Okay. [01:55:11.480 --> 01:55:12.480] Okay. [01:55:12.480 --> 01:55:13.480] You've got enough. [01:55:13.480 --> 01:55:14.480] Move to disqualify the judge. [01:55:14.480 --> 01:55:16.440] File a judicial conduct complaint against him. [01:55:16.440 --> 01:55:17.440] Sue him personally. [01:55:17.440 --> 01:55:23.000] Yeah, and that was my question because I put in a motion to recuse, and- [01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:25.680] I recuse, disqualify. [01:55:25.680 --> 01:55:27.960] He gets to rule on his own recusal. [01:55:27.960 --> 01:55:30.800] He does not get to rule on his own disqualification. [01:55:30.800 --> 01:55:31.800] Yeah. [01:55:31.800 --> 01:55:34.320] And that was the crux of my question. [01:55:34.320 --> 01:55:39.640] Would that just be a motion, or how do I go about doing that? [01:55:39.640 --> 01:55:42.240] Motion to disqualify for cause. [01:55:42.240 --> 01:55:46.480] And you can actually take that to a judge above him for committing criminal acts from [01:55:46.480 --> 01:55:47.480] the bench. [01:55:47.480 --> 01:55:52.840] He's adjudicating from the bench, and he's threatening you with sanctions. [01:55:52.840 --> 01:55:55.560] That's tampering with a witness. [01:55:55.560 --> 01:55:56.560] Yeah. [01:55:56.560 --> 01:55:58.400] He said, There's no free rides here. [01:55:58.400 --> 01:56:01.400] How about you live there for free for a year and a half? [01:56:01.400 --> 01:56:06.720] And he said, he said, the plaintiff will give me an affidavit, and then when they give me [01:56:06.720 --> 01:56:08.480] that, I can sanction you. [01:56:08.480 --> 01:56:12.240] And normally it takes six months, but I have actually- I have the authority to have this [01:56:12.240 --> 01:56:14.120] done in 35 days. [01:56:14.120 --> 01:56:18.400] Well, file criminal charges against him, and we'll see how much authority he has. [01:56:18.400 --> 01:56:21.680] And file a- find out who carries his bond. [01:56:21.680 --> 01:56:23.880] File against his bond. [01:56:23.880 --> 01:56:29.600] And look in Florida law, you should have some provision for court warrant or removal. [01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:35.320] I think it's chapter 87 government code in Texas. [01:56:35.320 --> 01:56:43.160] And the provision for- in Texas, we have a provision for a court of inquiry, petition [01:56:43.160 --> 01:56:46.960] a higher court to inquire into the behavior of this court. [01:56:46.960 --> 01:56:49.080] Cause him as much difficulty as you can. [01:56:49.080 --> 01:56:50.560] You owe him nothing. [01:56:50.560 --> 01:56:51.560] Yeah. [01:56:51.560 --> 01:56:55.800] He's obviously going to cut you no slack, so don't cut him any slack. [01:56:55.800 --> 01:57:00.600] The problem they have with process is, you know, he's made it clear. [01:57:00.600 --> 01:57:03.280] He's going to rule against you at every turn. [01:57:03.280 --> 01:57:04.840] You've got nothing to lose. [01:57:04.840 --> 01:57:05.840] Absolutely. [01:57:05.840 --> 01:57:07.520] When you go for his throat- [01:57:07.520 --> 01:57:09.720] Motion to disqualify initially. [01:57:09.720 --> 01:57:10.720] Yes. [01:57:10.720 --> 01:57:15.520] Criminal charges, civil suit. [01:57:15.520 --> 01:57:18.240] And civil suit against him personally. [01:57:18.240 --> 01:57:23.000] I would counter suit, cross complain in the ongoing case. [01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:28.720] Yeah, I do have that in- actually he dismissed my initial counter complaint. [01:57:28.720 --> 01:57:31.000] I mean, he just wasn't looking at nothing. [01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:34.680] I mean, so I amended a new counter complaint. [01:57:34.680 --> 01:57:36.640] File a cross complaint. [01:57:36.640 --> 01:57:37.640] Yeah. [01:57:37.640 --> 01:57:38.640] I'm sorry. [01:57:38.640 --> 01:57:45.760] A counter- it comes in the form of an original petition naming the judge. [01:57:45.760 --> 01:57:49.520] You have to have the judge served by the constable. [01:57:49.520 --> 01:57:50.520] Okay. [01:57:50.520 --> 01:57:57.040] Claiming that he is without subject matter jurisdiction, he is therefore without immunity [01:57:57.040 --> 01:57:58.040] of any kind. [01:57:58.040 --> 01:57:59.040] Okay. [01:57:59.040 --> 01:58:00.040] That'll get him excited. [01:58:00.040 --> 01:58:01.040] Great. [01:58:01.040 --> 01:58:02.040] Great. [01:58:02.040 --> 01:58:03.040] Okay. [01:58:03.040 --> 01:58:04.040] Listen, we're out of time. [01:58:04.040 --> 01:58:05.040] Thanks- [01:58:05.040 --> 01:58:06.040] Thank you so much. [01:58:06.040 --> 01:58:07.040] Yes, thank you, Robin. [01:58:07.040 --> 01:58:08.040] And I'm one of your soldiers out here. [01:58:08.040 --> 01:58:09.040] I'm learning, so- [01:58:09.040 --> 01:58:10.040] Thanks, Robin. [01:58:10.040 --> 01:58:11.040] We appreciate it. [01:58:11.040 --> 01:58:12.040] All right. [01:58:12.040 --> 01:58:13.040] Thanks, guys. [01:58:13.040 --> 01:58:14.040] Yeah. [01:58:14.040 --> 01:58:15.040] Robin, contact me. [01:58:15.040 --> 01:58:16.040] Send me an email. [01:58:16.040 --> 01:58:17.040] I'll give you some more options. [01:58:17.040 --> 01:58:26.520] Okay, Dan from- Sure, Dan from Connecticut, sorry we didn't get to you in time. [01:58:26.520 --> 01:58:27.520] Call back Thursday night. [01:58:27.520 --> 01:58:30.520] This is the rule of law. [01:58:30.520 --> 01:58:33.840] Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens, we'll be back Thursday. [01:58:33.840 --> 01:58:38.040] Tomorrow is Iowa Report Radio, Agenda 21 Talk. [01:58:38.040 --> 01:59:01.000] Wednesday is Outside of the Box Politics with Richard Rees, Radio Free Oklahoma as well. [01:59:01.000 --> 01:59:25.680] I'll see you when we get back. [01:59:25.680 --> 01:59:35.680] I'm like a stepping razor, don't watch my sides, I'm dangerous, I'm dangerous [01:59:35.680 --> 01:59:42.680] I'm like a stepping razor, don't watch my sides, I'm dangerous, dangerous [01:59:42.680 --> 01:59:58.680] I'm like a stepping razor, don't watch my sides, I'm dangerous