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[00:04.400 --> 00:10.000]  Antifadar Kanbar, a member of Iraq's National Alliance, has warned that the U.S. may attempt
[00:10.000 --> 00:13.280]  to manipulate the results of the country's general elections.
[00:13.280 --> 00:17.560]  Kanbar said, quote, we are afraid there is some sort of American intervention inside
[00:17.560 --> 00:21.680]  the Electoral Commission, maybe altering those numbers.
[00:21.680 --> 00:26.760]  The House of Representatives Wednesday rejected an effort by anti-war lawmakers to force a
[00:26.760 --> 00:31.360]  withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Afghanistan by the end of the year.
[00:31.360 --> 00:39.320]  Sixty-five lawmakers, mostly Democrats, voted for the resolution, while 356 voted against.
[00:39.320 --> 00:45.600]  A U.N. official says 90 Hutu Rwandan rebels were killed in eastern Congo during a two-week
[00:45.600 --> 00:49.880]  Congolese army operation supported by U.N. peacekeepers.
[00:49.880 --> 00:53.920]  Hutu rebels are blamed for killing hundreds of villagers in eastern Congo.
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[00:58.600 --> 01:03.600]  According to the journal Science, huge quantities of methane below the Arctic seabed are showing
[01:03.600 --> 01:06.120]  signs of destabilizing.
[01:06.120 --> 01:10.080]  Scientists aboard Russian icebreakers have discovered that methane is leaking from the
[01:10.080 --> 01:14.720]  subsea permafrost far faster than previously estimated.
[01:14.720 --> 01:19.880]  The discovery is raising concerns that climatic tipping points may have already been reached.
[01:19.880 --> 01:25.320]  Although methane is 25 times more powerful than carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas, emissions
[01:25.320 --> 01:30.520]  from subsea permafrost are not included in climate change models.
[01:30.520 --> 01:36.600]  Research Professor Natalia Shakova of the University of Alaska said, quote, the subsea permafrost
[01:36.600 --> 01:43.000]  should act as a cap or seal, preventing leakage, adding, quote, beneath it, methane has accumulated
[01:43.000 --> 01:49.340]  at high pressure, but the permafrost is losing its ability to be an impermeable cap.
[01:49.340 --> 01:54.480]  The permafrost that covers vast tracts of the far north is thawing, steadily adding
[01:54.480 --> 01:56.360]  methane to the atmosphere.
[01:56.360 --> 02:00.120]  The Arctic has warmed at about twice the rate of the rest of the planet.
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[02:04.360 --> 02:09.680]  The European Parliament Wednesday urged its 27 member states to monitor the Israeli and
[02:09.680 --> 02:15.120]  Palestinian probes into alleged war crimes committed during the Gaza conflict.
[02:15.120 --> 02:21.240]  The Parliament's resolution backed the findings of a UN panel chaired by Judge Richard Goldstone,
[02:21.240 --> 02:26.360]  which concluded both sides committed war crimes and possible crimes against humanity.
[02:26.360 --> 02:29.320]  The US, however, has rejected the same report.
[02:29.320 --> 02:33.960]  The parliamentary move, which would give the EU an unprecedented role in evaluating the
[02:33.960 --> 02:39.480]  progress of Israel's war crimes probe, was sharply criticized by Israel.
[02:39.480 --> 02:45.040]  In December, the EU accused Israel of trying to divide the bloc to stop it from passing
[02:45.040 --> 02:50.320]  a resolution calling for Jerusalem to be the shared capital of Israel and for a future
[02:50.320 --> 02:52.200]  Palestinian state.
[02:52.200 --> 03:21.840]  The measure was adopted despite Israel's opposition.
[03:23.200 --> 03:44.600]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna
[03:44.600 --> 03:47.600]  do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you.
[03:47.600 --> 03:53.600]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you.
[03:53.600 --> 03:58.600]  When you were eight and you had bad traits, you'd go to school and learn the golden rule.
[03:58.600 --> 04:01.600]  So why are you acting like a bloody fool?
[04:01.600 --> 04:02.600]  Did you check it?
[04:02.600 --> 04:03.600]  Ah!
[04:03.600 --> 04:04.600]  Then you must get crewed!
[04:04.600 --> 04:09.600]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you.
[04:09.600 --> 04:15.600]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you.
[04:15.600 --> 04:23.600]  Alright, bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do when we come for you?
[04:23.600 --> 04:26.600]  Bad boys and bad girls that is.
[04:26.600 --> 04:36.600]  This is The Rule of Law on Rule of Law Radio, Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, and Deborah Stevens.
[04:36.600 --> 04:39.600]  Tonight we have a couple of special guests right at the beginning.
[04:39.600 --> 04:45.600]  We've got Matthew Medina from We Are Change San Antonio and also Abel Rodriguez from We
[04:45.600 --> 04:48.600]  Are Change San Antonio will be joining us shortly as well.
[04:48.600 --> 04:50.600]  Matthew, thanks for joining us tonight.
[04:50.600 --> 04:51.600]  Thank you for having me.
[04:51.600 --> 04:52.600]  I'm glad to be here.
[04:52.600 --> 04:54.600]  Well, I'm very honored, Matt.
[04:54.600 --> 04:56.600]  You've done a lot of really great work.
[04:56.600 --> 05:00.600]  I've been checking out some of the videos, the We Are Change San Antonio videos on your
[05:00.600 --> 05:05.600]  YouTube channel, and you all have done a lot of street actions, a lot of good work.
[05:05.600 --> 05:10.600]  Abel's gonna be telling the story in a little while of how Rick Perry grabbed his camera.
[05:10.600 --> 05:12.600]  He posted a YouTube of it.
[05:12.600 --> 05:14.600]  He posted a video of it on YouTube.
[05:14.600 --> 05:15.600]  It's hilarious.
[05:15.600 --> 05:20.600]  And I wanted to have you on, Matt, because I just wanted to introduce our listeners to you.
[05:20.600 --> 05:27.600]  Matt Medina was one of the original coordinators and organizers of the A&E 9-11 Truth press
[05:27.600 --> 05:33.600]  conference and seminar that we had, that we broadcasted from this past Saturday over at
[05:33.600 --> 05:35.600]  the DoubleTree.
[05:35.600 --> 05:38.600]  He's been working closely with Ron Avery for quite a while.
[05:38.600 --> 05:44.600]  And so, Matt, I just wanted to thank you for kicking the ball off, getting the ball rolling
[05:44.600 --> 05:49.600]  here and, you know, allowing me to help you guys.
[05:49.600 --> 05:50.600]  It was a very successful event.
[05:50.600 --> 05:56.600]  We had probably about 400 people at the max, and I just, I was really pleased the way the
[05:56.600 --> 05:59.600]  whole thing went off, and I wanted to introduce my listeners to you.
[05:59.600 --> 06:03.600]  So, Matt, why don't you introduce yourself and tell us what is your story?
[06:03.600 --> 06:09.600]  How did you get into all this, like, Patriot movement stuff to begin with and the 9-11 Truth
[06:09.600 --> 06:15.600]  movement, and what moved you to found the We Are Change San Antonio chapter of We Are
[06:15.600 --> 06:16.600]  Change?
[06:16.600 --> 06:18.600]  And just give us an overview here.
[06:18.600 --> 06:19.600]  Okay.
[06:19.600 --> 06:20.600]  I'd love to do that.
[06:20.600 --> 06:26.600]  Well, 9-11, I woke up to that pretty much the first day when the television stations
[06:26.600 --> 06:32.600]  were showing footage of what was, at the time, dancing Palestinians, and the media was saying
[06:32.600 --> 06:35.600]  they were happy that we were being attacked.
[06:35.600 --> 06:39.600]  And then I just thought that was odd that they would have cameras there immediately on
[06:39.600 --> 06:42.600]  them, like, instantaneously on the other side of the world.
[06:42.600 --> 06:44.600]  They would be there recording live via satellite.
[06:44.600 --> 06:49.600]  So I thought that was fishy, and then ABC News says, oh, that was stock footage from
[06:49.600 --> 06:50.600]  a festival.
[06:50.600 --> 06:53.600]  Yeah, and then it turned out they were actually Israelis.
[06:53.600 --> 06:54.600]  Yeah.
[06:54.600 --> 06:59.600]  So that led me to Alex Jones wrote a tyranny.
[06:59.600 --> 07:05.600]  I mean, I was awake within the first couple of months, but I wasn't awake to the whole
[07:05.600 --> 07:08.600]  movement so much.
[07:08.600 --> 07:10.600]  But I did get around to that.
[07:10.600 --> 07:15.600]  For example, in 2004, I voted third party because I was following Infowars somewhat,
[07:15.600 --> 07:18.600]  but not as much as I do now in the last couple of years.
[07:18.600 --> 07:23.600]  But I was kind of, you know, on board, and it took the Ron Paul revolution coming around
[07:23.600 --> 07:28.600]  and then I started getting active, campaigning, going doorwalking every Saturday with the
[07:28.600 --> 07:29.600]  local meetup.
[07:29.600 --> 07:34.600]  And then I actually canvassed my whole precinct, my whole neighborhood, and what I would do
[07:34.600 --> 07:39.600]  is I would wear an MP3 player and listen to the Alex Jones show while flipping us Ron
[07:39.600 --> 07:41.600]  Paul slim gems at every single house.
[07:41.600 --> 07:44.600]  And I would have DVDs on me for people who wanted to talk.
[07:44.600 --> 07:48.600]  And that was kind of the beginning of weird change because I was doing that.
[07:48.600 --> 07:53.600]  But then come to the Texas State Republican Convention, I was a delegate.
[07:53.600 --> 07:57.600]  I met a lot of other great people and actually met people from San Antonio I hadn't met
[07:57.600 --> 08:03.600]  yet that were also young and down with Infowars and, you know, against the New World Order.
[08:03.600 --> 08:06.600]  And that spawned kind of weird change to San Antonio.
[08:06.600 --> 08:13.600]  But what it really took, the thing that just really pushed me to that edge was going and
[08:13.600 --> 08:18.600]  seeing Truth Rising in Austin at Alma Draft House when Alex had a screening.
[08:18.600 --> 08:22.600]  And I had seen some weird change videos on the net, but that was it.
[08:22.600 --> 08:24.600]  I was like, oh yeah, what they're doing.
[08:24.600 --> 08:27.600]  You know, I was still pumped up from the Ron Paul revolution and that had already died
[08:27.600 --> 08:29.600]  down, but I was still ready to keep going.
[08:29.600 --> 08:33.600]  I wasn't slowing down, any slowing down for me, which is kind of sad to see because, you
[08:33.600 --> 08:37.600]  know, you had so many people in the Ron Paul revolution who were amped up and, you know,
[08:37.600 --> 08:38.600]  they were doing stuff.
[08:38.600 --> 08:42.600]  And then just because Ron Paul drops out of the race, it's like, you know, they stopped
[08:42.600 --> 08:43.600]  their activism.
[08:43.600 --> 08:46.600]  They stopped fighting this information war.
[08:46.600 --> 08:50.600]  And that's kind of, you know, that's another factor that got me to, you know, keep going.
[08:50.600 --> 08:52.600]  I was like, I'm not going to be like these people and just stop.
[08:52.600 --> 08:53.600]  There's no stopping now.
[08:53.600 --> 08:55.600]  That was the beginning.
[08:55.600 --> 08:59.600]  So that was pretty much the beginning of We Are Change San Antonio.
[08:59.600 --> 09:00.600]  That's awesome.
[09:00.600 --> 09:03.600]  Well, tell us about some of the things that you guys do.
[09:03.600 --> 09:05.600]  Y'all are into like street actions and stuff like this.
[09:05.600 --> 09:06.600]  Give us a history.
[09:06.600 --> 09:10.600]  When did you find We Are Change San Antonio?
[09:10.600 --> 09:13.600]  That was the summer of 2008.
[09:13.600 --> 09:16.600]  And, you know, we already had a small group ready.
[09:16.600 --> 09:23.600]  You know, the Ron Paul meetup leftovers, you know, us radical info warriors, the ones that
[09:23.600 --> 09:27.600]  really had the courage to go and talk about 9-11 on the streets whereas most people in
[09:27.600 --> 09:29.600]  the meetup believed it was an inside job.
[09:29.600 --> 09:31.600]  They wouldn't say anything really public about it.
[09:31.600 --> 09:33.600]  So, you know, we kind of stood out for that.
[09:33.600 --> 09:36.600]  So we started doing street actions here in San Antonio.
[09:36.600 --> 09:41.600]  We started off at this monthly event here in San Antonio called First Friday.
[09:41.600 --> 09:42.600]  It's down in the Art District.
[09:42.600 --> 09:45.600]  The King William District is kind of like a residential neighborhood.
[09:45.600 --> 09:50.600]  But there's one corner that has a brewery and a bunch of art galleries.
[09:50.600 --> 09:54.600]  And what it is is that people used to gather every Friday night and used to be able to
[09:54.600 --> 09:58.600]  walk up and down about a quarter mile block and drink beer.
[09:58.600 --> 09:59.600]  And there'd be vendors.
[09:59.600 --> 10:03.600]  So a lot of different people would be out there, different crowds, different demographics.
[10:03.600 --> 10:05.600]  And we started off there.
[10:05.600 --> 10:08.600]  But more recently, First Friday, we'd still go there.
[10:08.600 --> 10:12.600]  And back then, we would kind of, you know, get not really great responses.
[10:12.600 --> 10:15.600]  And it'd be more the young people would be like, oh, yeah, 9-11 was an inside job.
[10:15.600 --> 10:18.600]  And we'd get comments like that.
[10:18.600 --> 10:23.600]  And so First Friday has really died down in the last year because they stopped allowing
[10:23.600 --> 10:25.600]  people to walk up and down the street with beer.
[10:25.600 --> 10:30.600]  But two months ago when we were out there with a free DVD sign and 200 Fall of the Republics,
[10:30.600 --> 10:34.600]  and we were also handing out Deborah Medina pamphlets and flyers.
[10:34.600 --> 10:36.600]  It was a totally different response.
[10:36.600 --> 10:38.600]  It was like we're preaching to the choir.
[10:38.600 --> 10:41.600]  You would have thought we were at a truth convention or something.
[10:41.600 --> 10:46.600]  It was like everybody there had somewhat of an idea about either the New World Order,
[10:46.600 --> 10:50.600]  Deborah Medina, and at the time, the recent debates, Info Wars.
[10:50.600 --> 10:51.600]  It was just crazy.
[10:51.600 --> 10:54.600]  I got a video, but I haven't made an actual YouTube video of it.
[10:54.600 --> 10:56.600]  But that was amazing.
[10:56.600 --> 10:57.600]  A lot of us were shocked.
[10:57.600 --> 11:00.600]  We were like, wow, people are really starting to wake up.
[11:00.600 --> 11:03.600]  So we do a lot of street actions and hand out DVDs.
[11:03.600 --> 11:06.600]  We have a little DVD burning tower here.
[11:06.600 --> 11:12.600]  And we've got great volunteers who are always donating here in San Antonio the DVDs or funds
[11:12.600 --> 11:13.600]  to get DVDs.
[11:13.600 --> 11:18.600]  We've got people donating from all around really to help us keep the DVD burning mission going.
[11:18.600 --> 11:23.600]  That's probably our strongest attribute is getting DVDs burnt and getting them out.
[11:23.600 --> 11:28.600]  And one of our first street actions from the Alamo was one of our first popular videos
[11:28.600 --> 11:33.600]  where the Alamo Park Police actually grabs our camera and wrestles it
[11:33.600 --> 11:35.600]  and is telling us to stop recording.
[11:35.600 --> 11:40.600]  And that was one of the first videos that got us on Prison Planet, Info Wars.
[11:40.600 --> 11:42.600]  And that was just amazing.
[11:42.600 --> 11:46.600]  I didn't realize how big that was at the time that a cop would actually violate us like that
[11:46.600 --> 11:50.600]  because we were still newbies and we were still green in activism.
[11:50.600 --> 11:56.600]  And then another time, well, basically, we'd always start off going in front of Alamo,
[11:56.600 --> 11:59.600]  and we were getting in trouble here and there.
[11:59.600 --> 12:06.600]  But more recently in September, before this September 11, 2009, we were at the mall
[12:06.600 --> 12:08.600]  and we thought we were recording, but the camp quarter wasn't.
[12:08.600 --> 12:11.600]  And we were born in this court area on the River Walk.
[12:11.600 --> 12:14.600]  And the cops came up to us and they said, we know who you are.
[12:14.600 --> 12:17.600]  You're those Info Wars Prison Planet guys.
[12:17.600 --> 12:19.600]  And they just smiled and let us go.
[12:19.600 --> 12:20.600]  They didn't do anything.
[12:20.600 --> 12:23.600]  And I thought we were recording, but we weren't, unfortunately.
[12:23.600 --> 12:28.600]  So it seems we are having an impact here in San Antonio.
[12:28.600 --> 12:31.600]  And keep in mind also that San Antonio is a big military town.
[12:31.600 --> 12:33.600]  We have like four bases here.
[12:33.600 --> 12:37.600]  And on the weekends down there is a bunch of people in their military uniforms
[12:37.600 --> 12:39.600]  or even just off duty.
[12:39.600 --> 12:41.600]  So we are trying to have an impact.
[12:41.600 --> 12:45.600]  And we're going to continue going really stronger this year.
[12:45.600 --> 12:50.600]  As you know, so much going on lately.
[12:50.600 --> 12:52.600]  Well, Matt, that's incredible.
[12:52.600 --> 13:00.600]  Have any police or any governors tried to grab your cameras recently?
[13:00.600 --> 13:06.600]  Or has that pretty much died down since it's gotten so well known
[13:06.600 --> 13:09.600]  that they do these kinds of things?
[13:09.600 --> 13:12.600]  Yeah, it went from a park policeman grabbing our cameras.
[13:12.600 --> 13:16.600]  So now this year, that was in 2008 and fast forward to 2010,
[13:16.600 --> 13:20.600]  now we actually have the Texas state governor grabbing our camera.
[13:20.600 --> 13:24.600]  And that was the great work of Abel Rodriguez,
[13:24.600 --> 13:27.600]  who was simply asking questions to the governor, Rick Perry.
[13:27.600 --> 13:31.600]  And Rick Perry just really did not want to be on camera
[13:31.600 --> 13:33.600]  and have these questions asked to him,
[13:33.600 --> 13:37.600]  which made him resort to physically grabbing the camera
[13:37.600 --> 13:42.600]  in a mob, goon-style move and tactic and turning it off
[13:42.600 --> 13:44.600]  and then signing Abel's book,
[13:44.600 --> 13:47.600]  which was the whole reason Abel's Gateway to Speak to Perry
[13:47.600 --> 13:51.600]  was having him sign none other than 1984 by George Orwell,
[13:51.600 --> 13:53.600]  as well as Animal Farm.
[13:53.600 --> 13:55.600]  He had both books listed.
[13:55.600 --> 13:57.600]  And Perry was more than happy to...
[13:57.600 --> 13:59.600]  You know what Perry wrote in the first book?
[13:59.600 --> 14:01.600]  He wrote Keep Up the Good Fight.
[14:01.600 --> 14:05.600]  He signed Animal Farm in 1984 and said Keep Up the Good Fight?
[14:05.600 --> 14:07.600]  Yes.
[14:07.600 --> 14:09.600]  After he grabbed Abel's camera.
[14:09.600 --> 14:12.600]  We're going to have Abel on in a few minutes for listeners.
[14:12.600 --> 14:14.600]  Yeah, Abel would be able to tell that story better,
[14:14.600 --> 14:17.600]  but yeah, he signed Keep Up the Good Fight before Abel
[14:17.600 --> 14:20.600]  got to actually ask any questions.
[14:20.600 --> 14:24.600]  And we were also here when Bill Clinton was in town,
[14:24.600 --> 14:29.600]  and it was basically a branch of the CFR here,
[14:29.600 --> 14:32.600]  the World Council of Affairs.
[14:32.600 --> 14:34.600]  They're located on Trinity University,
[14:34.600 --> 14:36.600]  and they hosted Bill Clinton.
[14:36.600 --> 14:38.600]  And we were trying so hard to get tickets
[14:38.600 --> 14:40.600]  that we found some on Craigslist.
[14:40.600 --> 14:42.600]  And I let the guy know what we were doing.
[14:42.600 --> 14:44.600]  Well, really, I met the guy in person.
[14:44.600 --> 14:46.600]  He wanted to charge us $25 a ticket,
[14:46.600 --> 14:48.600]  and the tickets were free for college kids.
[14:48.600 --> 14:50.600]  And once I told him what we were doing,
[14:50.600 --> 14:52.600]  he was out here taking for free, and I gave him some DVDs.
[14:52.600 --> 14:55.600]  So me and Richard from San Antonio, where I changed,
[14:55.600 --> 14:57.600]  went to the event.
[14:57.600 --> 15:00.600]  And it was the total sell of being a global citizen
[15:00.600 --> 15:05.600]  and one of those sad stories about poor kids in other countries
[15:05.600 --> 15:08.600]  and volunteering to help them.
[15:08.600 --> 15:10.600]  But at the end of this event,
[15:10.600 --> 15:14.600]  the World Council of Affairs presented Bill Clinton
[15:14.600 --> 15:16.600]  with a golden globe,
[15:16.600 --> 15:18.600]  and they gave Bill Clinton the title,
[15:18.600 --> 15:20.600]  The Prince of Peace.
[15:20.600 --> 15:22.600]  And we got that on video, and unfortunately,
[15:22.600 --> 15:24.600]  we didn't yell out anything.
[15:24.600 --> 15:26.600]  We were more or less kind of mesmerized,
[15:26.600 --> 15:28.600]  because Richard and I are Christians,
[15:28.600 --> 15:30.600]  and we believe in the Bible and the Word of Jesus Christ.
[15:30.600 --> 15:34.600]  And in the Bible, Jesus Christ is the Prince of Peace.
[15:34.600 --> 15:37.600]  So to hear Bill Clinton of all people being anointed
[15:37.600 --> 15:40.600]  with this title and this shiny, bright, golden globe,
[15:40.600 --> 15:43.600]  we were just, like, standing with our mouths hanging open.
[15:43.600 --> 15:45.600]  Well, I think they misspoke.
[15:45.600 --> 15:48.600]  I think they meant Prince of Getting a Peace.
[15:48.600 --> 15:50.600]  Now, wait a minute.
[15:50.600 --> 15:53.600]  People did not have sex with that woman.
[15:53.600 --> 15:56.600]  Prince of Getting a Peace.
[15:56.600 --> 16:00.600]  Eddie always comes up with the good ones.
[16:00.600 --> 16:02.600]  Yeah, that's pretty witty.
[16:02.600 --> 16:04.600]  Lord, yeah, indeed.
[16:04.600 --> 16:06.600]  That's pretty blasphemous, I agree,
[16:06.600 --> 16:09.600]  that they would say something like that, you know.
[16:09.600 --> 16:14.600]  So it went from, I mean, just getting back on,
[16:14.600 --> 16:18.600]  like, how the man is treating you guys.
[16:18.600 --> 16:20.600]  It went from the park police grabbing the camera
[16:20.600 --> 16:22.600]  to the governor grabbing your camera,
[16:22.600 --> 16:25.600]  and now the law enforcement around San Antonio
[16:25.600 --> 16:27.600]  are pretty much, like, leaving you guys alone
[16:27.600 --> 16:29.600]  because they know who you are.
[16:29.600 --> 16:31.600]  Is that the deal?
[16:31.600 --> 16:33.600]  Oh, yeah, and at First Friday down there
[16:33.600 --> 16:37.600]  in that King William district, the officers down there
[16:37.600 --> 16:39.600]  actually are always happy to see us,
[16:39.600 --> 16:41.600]  and we always bring them stacks of different titles
[16:41.600 --> 16:43.600]  every month, and they love it.
[16:43.600 --> 16:45.600]  Oh, that's great. Okay, listen, Matt, hang on the line,
[16:45.600 --> 16:50.600]  and it looks like we do have Abel Rodriguez has now joined us,
[16:50.600 --> 16:53.600]  and we're going to speak with Abel on the other side,
[16:53.600 --> 16:55.600]  along with Matt.
[16:55.600 --> 16:57.600]  He's going to tell the story about how Rick Perry grabs his camera.
[16:57.600 --> 16:59.600]  We'll be right back.
[16:59.600 --> 17:02.600]  Do you feel tied when talking about important topics
[17:02.600 --> 17:04.600]  like money and politics?
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[18:28.600 --> 18:43.600]  Okay, tyranny, thema tear you, thema tear me,
[18:43.600 --> 18:45.600]  thema tear up the whole country,
[18:45.600 --> 18:48.600]  but not if we have something to do about it,
[18:48.600 --> 18:50.600]  and we are doing something about it,
[18:50.600 --> 18:52.600]  and so is We Are Change San Antonio.
[18:52.600 --> 18:54.600]  So again, we'd like to welcome Matt Medina,
[18:54.600 --> 18:56.600]  the founder of We Are Change San Antonio,
[18:56.600 --> 18:58.600]  and now we have Abel Rodriguez,
[18:58.600 --> 19:00.600]  also a member of We Are Change San Antonio.
[19:00.600 --> 19:02.600]  Abel, thanks for joining us tonight.
[19:02.600 --> 19:04.600]  Good evening. Thank you for having me.
[19:04.600 --> 19:05.600]  Hello, Matthew. How are you?
[19:05.600 --> 19:06.600]  Hey, Abel.
[19:06.600 --> 19:07.600]  Good.
[19:07.600 --> 19:11.600]  Yeah, Abel was up here over the weekend as well
[19:11.600 --> 19:14.600]  helping out, a great help,
[19:14.600 --> 19:18.600]  with the A&E 9-11 Truth press conference and seminar,
[19:18.600 --> 19:20.600]  which was a smashing success.
[19:20.600 --> 19:22.600]  We had a huge turnout.
[19:22.600 --> 19:25.600]  We broadcasted it live, audio and video.
[19:25.600 --> 19:31.600]  It went out on probably about a dozen or so AM&FM stations around the country,
[19:31.600 --> 19:34.600]  so a lot of people got woke up to the truth
[19:34.600 --> 19:36.600]  and learned a lot of things that they didn't know before.
[19:36.600 --> 19:38.600]  Derek Johnson, man, he just stole the show.
[19:38.600 --> 19:40.600]  We're going to have him on probably next week,
[19:40.600 --> 19:44.600]  but right now we're speaking with Abel and Matt from We Are Change.
[19:44.600 --> 19:46.600]  So Abel, why don't you give us a little bit of your story
[19:46.600 --> 19:49.600]  and how you got involved in We Are Change San Antonio,
[19:49.600 --> 19:52.600]  and tell us the story, the infamous story,
[19:52.600 --> 19:56.600]  of how Rick Perry grabs your camera,
[19:56.600 --> 19:59.600]  and you have the video of this posted on YouTube.
[19:59.600 --> 20:00.600]  This is great.
[20:00.600 --> 20:04.600]  Actually, if anybody wants to see it, they can go to We Are Change San Antonio,
[20:04.600 --> 20:08.600]  or they can go to my YouTube channel, it's just Abel California,
[20:08.600 --> 20:10.600]  and I've got all three parts there.
[20:10.600 --> 20:15.600]  But it's pretty telling when a governor grabs a citizen's camera.
[20:15.600 --> 20:18.600]  I mean, we're doing something right to get this kind of reaction.
[20:18.600 --> 20:20.600]  When did this happen? What year was this?
[20:20.600 --> 20:22.600]  This was about a month ago.
[20:22.600 --> 20:28.600]  Before he won the election, this was about a week before.
[20:28.600 --> 20:31.600]  Randy, can we file criminal charges against Rick Perry
[20:31.600 --> 20:34.600]  because he grabbed Abel's camera?
[20:34.600 --> 20:37.600]  Technically, that's assault.
[20:37.600 --> 20:39.600]  That comes under simple assault.
[20:39.600 --> 20:42.600]  And he's got video of it. It's posted on YouTube.
[20:42.600 --> 20:44.600]  Okay, go ahead, Abel.
[20:44.600 --> 20:47.600]  We'll talk about the legal remedies later, but continue your story.
[20:47.600 --> 20:52.600]  Basically, I heard at the very last minute that he was coming into New Braunfels.
[20:52.600 --> 20:56.600]  So I called up Ron Avery, who gave the presentation,
[20:56.600 --> 20:58.600]  and he wasn't able to make it.
[20:58.600 --> 21:04.600]  So I went by myself, and he was surrounded by a lot of people just, you know,
[21:04.600 --> 21:07.600]  giggling and laughing at every single thing he said.
[21:07.600 --> 21:09.600]  So he just blew in and out of there.
[21:09.600 --> 21:11.600]  He wasn't there for more than 15 minutes.
[21:11.600 --> 21:19.600]  So immediately after he finished his little speech that he could help me get a thousand times,
[21:19.600 --> 21:22.600]  I handed him my book, and I asked him if he could sign it.
[21:22.600 --> 21:25.600]  It was The George Orwell's 1984.
[21:25.600 --> 21:27.600]  And he looked at the cover before he signed it
[21:27.600 --> 21:32.600]  because I know he doesn't sign some books.
[21:32.600 --> 21:37.600]  Abel, are you still with us?
[21:37.600 --> 21:38.600]  Can you hear me?
[21:38.600 --> 21:41.600]  I'm so sorry. I'm on a cell phone. I apologize.
[21:41.600 --> 21:43.600]  Oh, okay. We can hear you now.
[21:43.600 --> 21:47.600]  Okay, so he looks at the cover because he doesn't sign some books.
[21:47.600 --> 21:50.600]  Basically, I asked him to sign it,
[21:50.600 --> 21:56.600]  and I started asking him questions about attending the Bilderberg conference in Istanbul, Turkey.
[21:56.600 --> 22:01.600]  And he didn't deny it, but basically he played it off where he says,
[22:01.600 --> 22:04.600]  you know, there wasn't anything conspiracy going on.
[22:04.600 --> 22:09.600]  And he just really – he laughed it off, and everybody in the room laughed with him.
[22:09.600 --> 22:13.600]  But everybody in the room really doesn't know that in 1974,
[22:13.600 --> 22:17.600]  there's actual White House documents between Henry Kissinger and Nixon
[22:17.600 --> 22:23.600]  where the Bilderberg group is basically calling for the elimination of about 3 billion people.
[22:23.600 --> 22:25.600]  That's an actual document. You can find it.
[22:25.600 --> 22:29.600]  So the Bilderberg group does exist, and if people do their research,
[22:29.600 --> 22:35.600]  they'll find out that, you know, about 130 people are attending these highly controlled meetings.
[22:35.600 --> 22:41.600]  And I also got a chance to ask Rick Perry if he thought we needed a new investigation into 9-11.
[22:41.600 --> 22:46.600]  And to his credit, he pretty much said no, and he handed me my book back.
[22:46.600 --> 22:49.600]  He says, no, and here's your book back.
[22:49.600 --> 22:54.600]  So I said, you know, six of the commissioners are saying we need a new investigation.
[22:54.600 --> 22:57.600]  You know, they said that they were basically set up to fail.
[22:57.600 --> 23:00.600]  And, you know, basically he just walks away.
[23:00.600 --> 23:03.600]  So I think we're doing something right with these kind of questions,
[23:03.600 --> 23:07.600]  where these people are either grabbing cameras or avoiding us.
[23:07.600 --> 23:13.600]  So if more people can keep doing this, I think we can get that change we're looking for.
[23:13.600 --> 23:16.600]  So at what point did he actually grab your camera? Was that before or after?
[23:16.600 --> 23:17.600]  Outside. Outside.
[23:17.600 --> 23:21.600]  First I got his signature inside, and then I got a second chance to ask him.
[23:21.600 --> 23:25.600]  And when he saw me, he recognized me and knew I had the Bilderberg question.
[23:25.600 --> 23:28.600]  I also asked him if he supported a North American union,
[23:28.600 --> 23:32.600]  which he's pretty much instrumental in the trans-Texas corridor
[23:32.600 --> 23:34.600]  and all the toll roads that are with it.
[23:34.600 --> 23:35.600]  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
[23:35.600 --> 23:40.600]  So he saw me and he recognized me, and everybody else was there was completely friendly.
[23:40.600 --> 23:44.600]  So as soon as he saw me, he reaches out and grabs the camera.
[23:44.600 --> 23:48.600]  And not only did he grab it, but he grabs it and turns it off.
[23:48.600 --> 23:54.600]  So this guy is very slick, you know, and it's definitely a moment to find the button,
[23:54.600 --> 23:58.600]  to return it on, but he didn't just grab it. He knew how to turn it off.
[23:58.600 --> 24:05.600]  So I bounced back and got him on camera and asked him a few more questions about 9-11.
[24:05.600 --> 24:10.600]  But that's about it. And then his security men, you know, they're right there with him.
[24:10.600 --> 24:15.600]  So you don't get too much time, you know, to ask maybe one or two questions at the most.
[24:15.600 --> 24:18.600]  So we've got to make the most of those two questions because, you know,
[24:18.600 --> 24:22.600]  you really don't get a lot of time before they, you know, force you off.
[24:22.600 --> 24:25.600]  Yeah, yeah. And also, yeah, it is public knowledge.
[24:25.600 --> 24:28.600]  I mean, it was promoted in the Dallas Morning News.
[24:28.600 --> 24:32.600]  It was the headline in the Dallas Morning News when he went to the Bilderberg.
[24:32.600 --> 24:38.600]  And it's also a violation of the Logan Act because governors...
[24:38.600 --> 24:42.600]  Any elected official cannot meet and discuss policy.
[24:42.600 --> 24:47.600]  Yes, any elected official cannot meet in private to discuss policy
[24:47.600 --> 24:50.600]  with heads of state of other governments.
[24:50.600 --> 24:55.600]  And even if you want to say, well, they weren't discussing policy, blah, blah, blah,
[24:55.600 --> 24:58.600]  they can't meet with members of the private sector either.
[24:58.600 --> 25:01.600]  So either which way you slice it, there's two aspects of the Logan Act.
[25:01.600 --> 25:07.600]  Either which way you slice it, he violated because he can't go as a representative
[25:07.600 --> 25:13.600]  of the U.S., of the United States because he's not a federal official.
[25:13.600 --> 25:18.600]  He's a state governor. And so that's one aspect.
[25:18.600 --> 25:23.600]  And if I may cut in real quick, this is Matthew.
[25:23.600 --> 25:26.600]  When Abel confronted Rick Perry, Rick Perry said,
[25:26.600 --> 25:30.600]  yes, I did attend the Bilderberg conference to speak about energy.
[25:30.600 --> 25:35.600]  However, in the Dallas Morning News article at the top under the headline,
[25:35.600 --> 25:40.600]  it says Rick Perry attended Bilderberg to speak about federalism.
[25:40.600 --> 25:44.600]  Yes, so that shows right there he was going to discuss policy.
[25:44.600 --> 25:51.600]  So I mean, unless you are a designated official of a federal government,
[25:51.600 --> 25:58.600]  you cannot go and discuss policy with officials of foreign governments.
[25:58.600 --> 26:04.600]  You know, when you watch the video, you'll watch him maneuver around that so quickly.
[26:04.600 --> 26:08.600]  He blows it off basically saying, you know, I didn't see anything conspiracy
[26:08.600 --> 26:12.600]  because I specifically asked him what exactly goes on there that is so, you know,
[26:12.600 --> 26:17.600]  with closed doors. You know, I didn't see anything conspiracy.
[26:17.600 --> 26:19.600]  He said, you know, there. And then he kind of laughed him off.
[26:19.600 --> 26:23.600]  He said, well, I did debate a woman about global warming, you know,
[26:23.600 --> 26:28.600]  saying that if we did create it, you know, it's not by us or something.
[26:28.600 --> 26:31.600]  In other words, if there is global warming, it ain't by us.
[26:31.600 --> 26:34.600]  You know, and then he has the whole crowd giggling to that.
[26:34.600 --> 26:37.600]  If you watch the video, everybody in the room just kind of laughs.
[26:37.600 --> 26:41.600]  And I don't think a single one in the room knew exactly what the Bilderberg group was.
[26:41.600 --> 26:44.600]  Oh, boy. Yeah.
[26:44.600 --> 26:47.600]  Well, folks, if you go to – I was going to play the clip.
[26:47.600 --> 26:48.600]  I guess I could go ahead and play.
[26:48.600 --> 26:53.600]  It's like a 20-second clip of Rick Perry grabbing his video camera.
[26:53.600 --> 26:56.600]  Here it is. It's kind of hard to tell what's going on, but I'll go ahead and play.
[26:56.600 --> 27:01.600]  If you go to – if you look up ABLE California, all one word on YouTube, you could see it.
[27:01.600 --> 27:03.600]  Or we are changing San Antonio.
[27:03.600 --> 27:05.600]  Or we are changing San Antonio.
[27:05.600 --> 27:07.600]  Yeah, it's broken down a lot better into one video.
[27:07.600 --> 27:16.600]  Okay, so here it is. It's about a 17-second clip of Rick Perry grabbing Able's – Able Rodriguez's camera.
[27:16.600 --> 27:17.600]  2011.
[27:17.600 --> 27:18.600]  Oh, 2011.
[27:18.600 --> 27:20.600]  So I graduated semester early to go help Dad out.
[27:20.600 --> 27:21.600]  Good for you.
[27:21.600 --> 27:24.600]  Yeah, well, my daughter might have worked. She graduated semester late.
[27:24.600 --> 27:25.600]  Come here.
[27:25.600 --> 27:26.600]  Sorry.
[27:26.600 --> 27:28.600]  You didn't get your John Hancock on that. I was looking to get your John Hancock.
[27:28.600 --> 27:29.600]  Oh, yeah.
[27:29.600 --> 27:30.600]  Here.
[27:30.600 --> 27:31.600]  No, no, no, no.
[27:31.600 --> 27:33.600]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[27:33.600 --> 27:37.600]  You hear that – you're grabbing his camera.
[27:37.600 --> 27:42.600]  When he was saying, no, no, no, no. Yeah, when he was reaching for it, I would say, no, no, no, no. What are you doing?
[27:42.600 --> 27:48.600]  And actually, when he turned it off, I looked at him with complete shock, and I said, what are you doing?
[27:48.600 --> 27:50.600]  I couldn't believe he did that.
[27:50.600 --> 27:53.600]  I know. You're like, no, no, no. And he goes, oh, yes, yes, yes.
[27:53.600 --> 27:55.600]  Oh, no, man.
[27:55.600 --> 27:57.600]  Oh, my God. This is incredible.
[27:57.600 --> 28:13.600]  And the headline for that video for people who want to look it up, you can find on ABLE's YouTube page, broken in three separate videos, or if you want to find it all put together, the headline is, Rick Perry Grabs Camera, Talks Bilderberg, Says No to New 9-11 Investigation.
[28:13.600 --> 28:25.600]  Right. Oh, my goodness. Well, guys, listen, you've got an event coming up pretty soon on April 15th. You've organized another event. Tell us about this, Matt.
[28:25.600 --> 28:45.600]  Yes. April 15th is the worldwide international premiere via the Internet of Invisible Empire, the new documentary made by Jason Bermes, who has also helped make Loose Change and has made one of the best 9-11 movies out there, Fabled Enemies.
[28:45.600 --> 28:57.600]  So now Jason Bermes is releasing Invisible Empire. And the way he describes the movie is what Loose Change did for 9-11, Invisible Empire is going to do for the New World Order.
[28:57.600 --> 29:06.600]  So here in San Antonio, April 15th, we will have an actual physical theater premiere of Invisible Empire at the Alamo Drafthouse.
[29:06.600 --> 29:08.600]  And Jason's going to be there, right?
[29:08.600 --> 29:16.600]  Yes. Jason Bermes will be here to open his movie, and he will also conduct a question and answer forum after the movie.
[29:16.600 --> 29:18.600]  And what time is that?
[29:18.600 --> 29:26.600]  The movie starts at 7 o'clock, but I'm actually asking people to show up early because seats are limited at 155 seats.
[29:26.600 --> 29:30.600]  And there's only one Alamo Drafthouse?
[29:30.600 --> 29:39.600]  There's actually two locations, and the location we're having the premiere at is the West Lake location. It's on the west side of San Antonio.
[29:39.600 --> 29:49.600]  For more details and information, the event is online on two locations. One is the We Are Change San Antonio Meetup, which is sanotoniotruth.org.
[29:49.600 --> 29:58.600]  And the other location of the event on the Internet is on Facebook. If you just Google the keywords Invisible Empire Theater Premier, that will take you straight to it.
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[31:10.600 --> 31:14.600]  All right. We are here with the boys from San Antonio.
[31:14.600 --> 31:24.600]  The We Are Change San Antonio, Matt Medina, the founder and Abel Rodriguez of the infamous situation where Rick Perry grabbing his camera.
[31:24.600 --> 31:29.600]  And so we've got an event on April 15th. I'm going to go. I'm going to be there.
[31:29.600 --> 31:34.600]  It's been a while since I've seen a movie like that, a documentary like that at the Alamo Draft House.
[31:34.600 --> 31:40.600]  And I love the Alamo Draft House. So this is in the West Lake Alamo Draft House.
[31:40.600 --> 31:48.600]  And for more information, folks can go to sanantoniotruth.org. That's the website for the We Are Change San Antonio group. Is that correct?
[31:48.600 --> 31:50.600]  That's correct. That's the link to our meetup.
[31:50.600 --> 31:55.600]  Okay. And, Eddie, you had some comments for Matt and Abel.
[31:55.600 --> 32:00.600]  Yeah. I was just saying that I was actually stationed at Lackland from 84 to 88 there.
[32:00.600 --> 32:05.600]  And I figured that these guys would be real popular with the majority of the military folks out there.
[32:05.600 --> 32:11.600]  I mean, you've got pretty much every branch of the military referenced there in San Antonio at some point or other,
[32:11.600 --> 32:18.600]  between Fort Hood and Lackland with all of its training schools, Kelly, Fort Sam Houston.
[32:18.600 --> 32:21.600]  You guys should be rolling in the military that's supporting you.
[32:21.600 --> 32:25.600]  Yeah. There's definitely a lot of military there.
[32:25.600 --> 32:30.600]  The technique needs to be a very soft one because usually they're with their parents there.
[32:30.600 --> 32:35.600]  These are a lot of young people. And I remember one instance where we handed out some DVDs
[32:35.600 --> 32:40.600]  to a group of about 13 Air Force young people, mostly women.
[32:40.600 --> 32:44.600]  And they all took a DVD. It was, I don't remember, it was 9-11.
[32:44.600 --> 32:47.600]  Matthew, what DVD was that we gave to those?
[32:47.600 --> 32:52.600]  We were handing out, I believe it was either Loose Change or Terror Storm.
[32:52.600 --> 32:59.600]  And the incident you're talking about is the video and the headline of the video is Free Speech is Murder.
[32:59.600 --> 33:03.600]  And what I was talking about was where we actually give them the DVDs and they all looked,
[33:03.600 --> 33:05.600]  except them, and they were going to check them out.
[33:05.600 --> 33:12.600]  And a few minutes later, one of their sergeants come by and takes all the DVDs from them
[33:12.600 --> 33:16.600]  and basically collected them and walked away with them.
[33:16.600 --> 33:18.600]  Basically, I guess he threw them away.
[33:18.600 --> 33:25.600]  But it's just amazing how there are, yes, there are a lot of military people down there,
[33:25.600 --> 33:29.600]  to be able to actually get them into a conversation about 9-11
[33:29.600 --> 33:32.600]  in an environment where they're not feeling threatened or anything.
[33:32.600 --> 33:36.600]  It's not that easy. But we do pass out the DVDs. We do our best.
[33:36.600 --> 33:40.600]  But it's not exactly the Cape Walk.
[33:40.600 --> 33:45.600]  Oh, yeah. And they love to take advantage of me being the little guy.
[33:45.600 --> 33:51.600]  And at one event, again, in front of the Alamo on a Saturday morning, the Houston Street Market Fair,
[33:51.600 --> 33:55.600]  I had two or three different guys, and one day, one street action,
[33:55.600 --> 33:58.600]  tell me I was a disgrace to the country.
[33:58.600 --> 34:01.600]  And it's where different guys tell me the same thing.
[34:01.600 --> 34:06.600]  I've had people spit on the ground in front of me, you know, I've had, you know, all that.
[34:06.600 --> 34:12.600]  We've split the claiming more than once.
[34:12.600 --> 34:15.600]  What was that, Matt? You had what happen?
[34:15.600 --> 34:19.600]  We've had the bird split to us by women.
[34:19.600 --> 34:21.600]  That's pretty common, though, yeah.
[34:21.600 --> 34:23.600]  Yeah, that's pretty common.
[34:23.600 --> 34:28.600]  So we do get a lot of, you know, angst from some people.
[34:28.600 --> 34:33.600]  But yet then we'll also have the young guys in the Air Force do take the DVDs
[34:33.600 --> 34:37.600]  at a local art event one Saturday.
[34:37.600 --> 34:44.600]  And Winter 08, it was a chalk art festival, you know, street art done with chalk.
[34:44.600 --> 34:46.600]  And I entered us into that.
[34:46.600 --> 34:50.600]  The table was there, and we did a, it's on the San AntonioTruth.org.
[34:50.600 --> 34:51.600]  You can see the pictures.
[34:51.600 --> 34:56.600]  We did a mural with McCain and Obama being part of the pyramid.
[34:56.600 --> 34:59.600]  And we had a group of Air Force, young Air Force guys come up to us,
[34:59.600 --> 35:02.600]  shake our hands and tell us what you're doing is truly American.
[35:02.600 --> 35:06.600]  And we had a bunch of DVDs laid out next to the mural, and they took DVDs.
[35:06.600 --> 35:09.600]  We had people coming up to us and shaking our hands.
[35:09.600 --> 35:12.600]  So, you know, for every few that we get that spit on the ground,
[35:12.600 --> 35:16.600]  that cussed at us, told us we were disgraced, we do have the guys with the guts
[35:16.600 --> 35:19.600]  in uniform come up to us to shake our hands.
[35:19.600 --> 35:21.600]  That's awesome.
[35:21.600 --> 35:23.600]  That's great.
[35:23.600 --> 35:29.600]  You will find that it varies quite a bit as to the mindset of some of these folks.
[35:29.600 --> 35:32.600]  The trainees are being newly indoctrinated.
[35:32.600 --> 35:34.600]  That's the first thing you have to realize.
[35:34.600 --> 35:38.600]  When you find them up there with their parents and everything around San Antonio,
[35:38.600 --> 35:42.600]  you can almost guarantee these are folks that are there either in basic
[35:42.600 --> 35:44.600]  or they're in tech school there,
[35:44.600 --> 35:50.600]  and they're very controlled as to what they're allowed to have in their possession at that time.
[35:50.600 --> 35:54.600]  A better option would probably be to offer it to the parents on their behalf or something,
[35:54.600 --> 35:59.600]  simply so the sergeant then would have no recourse in taking it.
[35:59.600 --> 36:03.600]  Yeah, you know, I did my advanced training there.
[36:03.600 --> 36:09.600]  I was at 91 Delta when I was in the military, and I know exactly that is the case.
[36:09.600 --> 36:13.600]  So it is difficult, but we've been getting the word out.
[36:13.600 --> 36:17.600]  So I think all we need are more events like we had up in Austin
[36:17.600 --> 36:21.600]  and just keep doing what we're doing, and we're slowly winning this, you know,
[36:21.600 --> 36:25.600]  because it truly is an information war.
[36:25.600 --> 36:32.600]  If I may, San Antonio, being that you're familiar with it being a military town,
[36:32.600 --> 36:35.600]  it's now actually being taken to the next level.
[36:35.600 --> 36:39.600]  San Antonio is being prepped to be the hub of cybersecurity.
[36:39.600 --> 36:44.600]  What we have here in San Antonio is the newly constructed NSA headquarters,
[36:44.600 --> 36:48.600]  which our local representative, Ciro Rodriguez,
[36:48.600 --> 36:53.600]  labels the NSA headquarters the cyber hub of the world,
[36:53.600 --> 36:56.600]  able to contain all the cyber data of the world.
[36:56.600 --> 36:59.600]  If you're driven by that, the building is huge,
[36:59.600 --> 37:04.600]  and you know how much information, you know, you can keep on a little disc in your camera.
[37:04.600 --> 37:09.600]  Imagine how much information is being stored in, you know, in that size of facility.
[37:09.600 --> 37:12.600]  And, you know, today I'm in the construction field.
[37:12.600 --> 37:17.600]  Today a fellow electrician who worked with the contractor who built the NSA headquarters
[37:17.600 --> 37:22.600]  told me about these underground levels under the NSA headquarters
[37:22.600 --> 37:26.600]  and basically millions of dollars worth of data cable being run.
[37:26.600 --> 37:32.600]  And he was told that the building was being built for a bilingual training for the military.
[37:32.600 --> 37:36.600]  And it was bought by someone who knows the NSA headquarters.
[37:36.600 --> 37:39.600]  So we have the NSA headquarters in San Antonio.
[37:39.600 --> 37:47.600]  We have the local college, UTSA, with an exclusive million-dollar training course for cybersecurity.
[37:47.600 --> 37:51.600]  And then we have the Microsoft Data Center here in San Antonio.
[37:51.600 --> 37:53.600]  And now we're also getting a new office.
[37:53.600 --> 37:56.600]  I can't remember right off the hand exactly what it is.
[37:56.600 --> 37:57.600]  I saw the article.
[37:57.600 --> 38:02.600]  Bonita, another great activist from We Are Chained San Antonio, Bonita Hahnhorst,
[38:02.600 --> 38:05.600]  actually forwarded this article out to the We Are Chained San Antonio group
[38:05.600 --> 38:11.600]  of another addition to cybersecurity in San Antonio's new office, the camera specifically.
[38:11.600 --> 38:16.600]  So that is a new spectrum, a new level to the military aspect of San Antonio.
[38:16.600 --> 38:18.600]  I thought I'd chip in real quick.
[38:18.600 --> 38:23.600]  Yeah, the language school is the DLI, Defense Language Institute,
[38:23.600 --> 38:26.600]  and it's usually housed right there on Lacklin Air Force Base.
[38:26.600 --> 38:29.600]  So I don't know what they'd be doing in a building like that.
[38:29.600 --> 38:31.600]  They're just trying to cover it.
[38:31.600 --> 38:34.600]  But I'm pretty sure that if that's what it's actually going to house,
[38:34.600 --> 38:42.600]  no way is DLI going into that building because DLI involves foreign officers from many various countries.
[38:42.600 --> 38:49.600]  So there's no way they're going into an NSA security building.
[38:49.600 --> 38:56.600]  And it is NSA headquarters, which we confirmed, and we had a little incident happen,
[38:56.600 --> 38:57.600]  and I haven't really told anybody.
[38:57.600 --> 39:03.600]  It's kind of embarrassing, but in the filming of the poster revolution video,
[39:03.600 --> 39:07.600]  which we took part in for the Infowars contest, hanging up posters with swine flu,
[39:07.600 --> 39:12.600]  we thought it would have been a smart idea to get in front of the NSA headquarters to staple up some posters.
[39:12.600 --> 39:16.600]  And what ended up happening was we drove around the building.
[39:16.600 --> 39:18.600]  We were recording the NSA headquarters.
[39:18.600 --> 39:23.600]  We stopped at some apartments, got out a handful of posters, bags full of posters and DVDs,
[39:23.600 --> 39:29.600]  and the NSA actually crossed the street over to SUV and get out of the vehicle,
[39:29.600 --> 39:32.600]  and they're in what looks like law enforcement uniforms,
[39:32.600 --> 39:37.600]  but they actually have the NSA, like a pen, like a brass pen, and it's this NSA, really big,
[39:37.600 --> 39:41.600]  and they start asking us for IDs and we're hesitant about it.
[39:41.600 --> 39:46.600]  I'm actually the only dumb dumb that gave up my ID, but I'm kind of, I know I shouldn't have.
[39:46.600 --> 39:51.600]  I know that's why I haven't really told anybody the story, but so we talked to the guys.
[39:51.600 --> 39:53.600]  Let's find out who you are anyway, Matt.
[39:53.600 --> 39:58.600]  I know. That's why I thought about it, too, because, you know, I'm just like, I'm kind of like a bull.
[39:58.600 --> 40:02.600]  I'm going to go headstrong and say, here's my ID. Here's who I am.
[40:02.600 --> 40:09.600]  You do realize, of course, though, that those guys have no direct law enforcement authority within the state,
[40:09.600 --> 40:16.600]  and if you're not on the property belonging to the NSA, they couldn't tell you to do anything, not legally.
[40:16.600 --> 40:19.600]  Yes. You know, go ahead, Abel.
[40:19.600 --> 40:21.600]  No, go ahead. Go ahead.
[40:21.600 --> 40:28.600]  Well, you know, and that's something I've always known, but at that moment with, you know, hard-beaten adrenaline rushing,
[40:28.600 --> 40:34.600]  we got an SUV pulling up, a car pulling up, and big old guys coming out the car.
[40:34.600 --> 40:42.600]  Matthew thought he was going to be taken away to some, you know, seated prison and rendition, I believe they call it.
[40:42.600 --> 40:45.600]  Well, you never know the way things are going these days.
[40:45.600 --> 40:49.600]  Exactly. And me being a little guy and big old guys, you know,
[40:49.600 --> 40:55.600]  what we're going to do, I think what we should do, Abel, is do a YouTube video and just do a story
[40:55.600 --> 41:00.600]  about the cybersecurity aspect of San Antonio, and I think we should go back across the street from the NSA
[41:00.600 --> 41:04.600]  and talk about it, and we'll see what happens.
[41:04.600 --> 41:05.600]  Well, we're going to be –
[41:05.600 --> 41:14.600]  Actually, I think we tried to have Obama renditioned, but they kept sending him back.
[41:14.600 --> 41:18.600]  They couldn't confirm that he was born over there either.
[41:18.600 --> 41:20.600]  Mr. Barry Santaro.
[41:20.600 --> 41:25.600]  Exactly. Well, you guys are really doing some excellent work down there.
[41:25.600 --> 41:29.600]  How did you all meet Ron Avery anyway? I wanted to ask you all that.
[41:29.600 --> 41:33.600]  I don't know how Matthew met Ron Avery, but I met Ron Avery.
[41:33.600 --> 41:37.600]  He's in my neck of the woods here at New Braunfels, and that's how I met Ron Avery.
[41:37.600 --> 41:41.600]  He's got a delivery house down there in McQueening.
[41:41.600 --> 41:42.600]  Right.
[41:42.600 --> 41:44.600]  Matthew, how did you meet Ron?
[41:44.600 --> 41:49.600]  Well, when we started the Meetup a couple of months into it, and we had to start getting our videos around,
[41:49.600 --> 41:53.600]  and when our videos started getting on Prison Planet, people started in the local area,
[41:53.600 --> 41:58.600]  started finding out who we were and joining the Meetup and getting the email conversations,
[41:58.600 --> 42:05.600]  and that's when I was first introduced to Ron, and I think it was following that in the beginning of 2009.
[42:05.600 --> 42:10.600]  Bob Schultz with the We the People Foundation was doing a tour,
[42:10.600 --> 42:16.600]  and he actually stopped at the Tap House and had a little lecture there, and we went over there.
[42:16.600 --> 42:19.600]  I can't think of that. That was the first time I met Ron Avery, but I'm pretty sure it was.
[42:19.600 --> 42:25.600]  And then, of course, last year, April 15, when Glenn Beck was at the San Antonio for the big sea party,
[42:25.600 --> 42:27.600]  Ron Avery was the only guy there.
[42:27.600 --> 42:31.600]  That big, cute sign saying 9-11 was an inside job.
[42:31.600 --> 42:37.600]  And then on the other side of his sign, he said the financial crisis was an inside job.
[42:37.600 --> 42:43.600]  And I was there also, and he had part of people walking up to him with a sign like that.
[42:43.600 --> 42:45.600]  You get a lot of attention.
[42:45.600 --> 42:48.600]  Indeed. All right.
[42:48.600 --> 42:56.600]  Well, so folks, for more information about the premiere of Invisible Empire,
[42:56.600 --> 43:01.600]  go to santoniotruth.org. Is that correct?
[43:01.600 --> 43:02.600]  That's correct.
[43:02.600 --> 43:07.600]  Okay. Yeah, and you can also look up the trailer of the movie on YouTube. It's excellent.
[43:07.600 --> 43:09.600]  It looks like it's going to be an excellent deal.
[43:09.600 --> 43:13.600]  They've been talking about Bohemian Grove since the 70s, it would seem.
[43:13.600 --> 43:19.600]  He's got a little clip of Tom Brokaw talking about it back in the day when he looked like a young man.
[43:19.600 --> 43:21.600]  I saw that one. I saw that one.
[43:21.600 --> 43:23.600]  That's pretty incredible stuff there.
[43:23.600 --> 43:30.600]  Jason Burmes has said that he's got over hundreds of new clips, all kinds of major news networks,
[43:30.600 --> 43:35.600]  elites talking about the New World Order, new clips that haven't been premiered anywhere else but in this movie.
[43:35.600 --> 43:38.600]  Wow. All right, so make it down there, guys.
[43:38.600 --> 43:43.600]  I'm going to be there, the Alamo Drafthouse, Westlake in San Antonio.
[43:43.600 --> 43:47.600]  Get there before 7, about round 6 or so.
[43:47.600 --> 43:49.600]  Same you see, guys.
[43:49.600 --> 43:50.600]  All right.
[43:50.600 --> 43:54.600]  And thanks for joining us, Matt Medina and Abel Rodriguez from We Are Change San Antonio.
[43:54.600 --> 43:57.600]  We'll be right back.
[43:57.600 --> 43:59.600]  All right.
[43:59.600 --> 44:01.600]  We'll be right back.
[44:29.600 --> 44:31.600]  We'll be right back.
[44:59.600 --> 45:01.600]  All right.
[45:29.600 --> 45:31.600]  We'll be right back.
[45:59.600 --> 46:25.600]  All right, watching the sparks fly.
[46:25.600 --> 46:32.600]  Those were the boys from San Antonio, my brand new good friends, Matt Medina,
[46:32.600 --> 46:37.600]  the founder of We Are Change San Antonio and also Abel Rodriguez from We Are Change San Antonio.
[46:37.600 --> 46:40.600]  Great group of people, folks, just awesome group of people.
[46:40.600 --> 46:42.600]  I can't say enough good things about all of them.
[46:42.600 --> 46:49.600]  I met so many wonderful people from San Antonio this past Saturday at this event,
[46:49.600 --> 46:53.600]  the Texas Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, Derek Johnson.
[46:53.600 --> 46:59.600]  Boy, Derek Johnson just absolutely stole the show in my book with his treatise of Building 7
[46:59.600 --> 47:05.600]  with brand new data that he foiled from NIST.
[47:05.600 --> 47:07.600]  You guys have got to see this video.
[47:07.600 --> 47:11.600]  I think I'm going to post it on the Rule of Law Radio website.
[47:11.600 --> 47:13.600]  I'm going to talk to Derek about it.
[47:13.600 --> 47:15.600]  We've got to get this thing up on YouTube.
[47:15.600 --> 47:21.600]  The cartoon, you know, it's like a graphic video showing this is NIST's story
[47:21.600 --> 47:23.600]  of what happened with Building 7.
[47:23.600 --> 47:26.600]  It's like video model of what happened.
[47:26.600 --> 47:33.600]  And it shows beams suspended in midair like spinning, like defying the laws of gravity.
[47:33.600 --> 47:34.600]  It's absolutely outrageous.
[47:34.600 --> 47:38.600]  This is what the government would have us believe happened to Building 7 on 9-11.
[47:38.600 --> 47:41.600]  I mean, it just gets more ludicrous by the moment.
[47:41.600 --> 47:45.600]  But at any rate, excellent event.
[47:45.600 --> 47:52.600]  I've got links to the audio and the video posted on the website on ruleoflawradio.com, the home page.
[47:52.600 --> 48:02.600]  And now I want to ask Randy, okay, so we've got video of Rick Perry grabbing Abel Rodriguez's camera.
[48:02.600 --> 48:04.600]  It's posted on YouTube.
[48:04.600 --> 48:11.600]  You can go to the We Are Change San Antonio YouTube channel to see it or go to Abel California.
[48:11.600 --> 48:16.600]  That's the YouTube account on YouTube where you can see this.
[48:16.600 --> 48:20.600]  Randy, I mean, this is outrageous, okay?
[48:20.600 --> 48:24.600]  This is mafioso thugster styley.
[48:24.600 --> 48:27.600]  You know, this is our governor here grabbing people's cameras.
[48:27.600 --> 48:29.600]  So what can we do?
[48:29.600 --> 48:36.600]  What can Abel do here to kick up a dust storm over Rick Perry grabbing his camera?
[48:36.600 --> 48:41.600]  22.01 penal code.
[48:41.600 --> 48:54.600]  Paragraph A, a person commits an offense if the person, subparagraph 3, intentionally or knowingly causes physical contact with another
[48:54.600 --> 49:03.600]  when the person knows or should reasonably believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or provocative.
[49:03.600 --> 49:08.600]  Now what if Rick Perry actually didn't touch his hand or touch his body, just grabbed the camera?
[49:08.600 --> 49:09.600]  It doesn't matter.
[49:09.600 --> 49:10.600]  He touched what he was in his hand.
[49:10.600 --> 49:11.600]  He took it out of his hand.
[49:11.600 --> 49:13.600]  That's offense by contact.
[49:13.600 --> 49:20.600]  And it was in a very forceful manner, I might add, if you watch the video.
[49:20.600 --> 49:21.600]  Yes.
[49:21.600 --> 49:29.600]  I had a police officer shove me down in a chair, pushing me over backwards, and when I pushed his hand off my chest
[49:29.600 --> 49:33.600]  to keep him from knocking me backwards, he charged me with assault by contact.
[49:33.600 --> 49:34.600]  Right.
[49:34.600 --> 49:36.600]  When you actually need to charge him with assault, right?
[49:36.600 --> 49:37.600]  Yes.
[49:37.600 --> 49:38.600]  Have you done that yet?
[49:38.600 --> 49:39.600]  No.
[49:39.600 --> 49:40.600]  Okay.
[49:40.600 --> 49:43.600]  Too busy putting out everybody else's fires to do moan.
[49:43.600 --> 49:44.600]  I know.
[49:44.600 --> 49:45.600]  I understand.
[49:45.600 --> 49:46.600]  Well, okay.
[49:46.600 --> 49:49.600]  So Abel Rodriguez needs to file assault charges.
[49:49.600 --> 49:51.600]  Simple assault is what this would be?
[49:51.600 --> 49:52.600]  Yes.
[49:52.600 --> 49:54.600]  And where would he go to do this?
[49:54.600 --> 50:00.600]  Would he have to do this with a JP in the district where this happened?
[50:00.600 --> 50:04.600]  Obviously, the district attorneys aren't going to do anything about this.
[50:04.600 --> 50:07.600]  He's going to have to go harass the grand jury or what?
[50:07.600 --> 50:11.600]  If he files it with a district attorney, the district attorney will refuse.
[50:11.600 --> 50:15.600]  Then he can file against the district attorney for refusing to act against the governor.
[50:15.600 --> 50:20.600]  Because it's a criminal complaint against a public official.
[50:20.600 --> 50:21.600]  Yes.
[50:21.600 --> 50:24.600]  And so the district attorney has to act on it.
[50:24.600 --> 50:27.600]  He's required by statute to give it to the grand jury.
[50:27.600 --> 50:32.600]  Now, is simple assault, is that something that would go to a grand jury or is it?
[50:32.600 --> 50:37.600]  Any criminal complaint against a public official always goes to the grand jury.
[50:37.600 --> 50:43.600]  Well, what I'm asking is simple assault, is that a Class C misdemeanor or Class B or is it Class A?
[50:43.600 --> 50:45.600]  It's a Class A.
[50:45.600 --> 50:47.600]  It's a Class A misdemeanor?
[50:47.600 --> 50:52.600]  Fence under Section A-1 is a Class A misdemeanor.
[50:52.600 --> 50:55.600]  Normally, do Class A misdemeanors get reviewed by grand jury?
[50:55.600 --> 50:58.600]  Every misdemeanor is supposed to be.
[50:58.600 --> 51:02.600]  Right, but normally or is it only felony charges?
[51:02.600 --> 51:08.600]  No, anything that doesn't involve imprisonment for more than one year does not go before the grand jury
[51:08.600 --> 51:16.600]  according to Article 1, Section 10, Texas Constitution, but that puts it in conflict with Article 5, Section 17.
[51:16.600 --> 51:21.600]  So is a Class A misdemeanor?
[51:21.600 --> 51:23.600]  Punishable by less than a year.
[51:23.600 --> 51:27.600]  It is punishable by less than a year?
[51:27.600 --> 51:30.600]  However, since it's a criminal complaint against a public official,
[51:30.600 --> 51:33.600]  the district attorney has to give it to the grand jury anyway.
[51:33.600 --> 51:38.600]  An offense under Subsection A-2 or 3 is a Class C misdemeanor,
[51:38.600 --> 51:43.600]  except if the offense is a Class A misdemeanor if the offense is committed under Section A-3
[51:43.600 --> 51:51.600]  against an elderly individual or disabled individual as those terms are defined by Section 2204.
[51:51.600 --> 51:53.600]  It's a Class C misdemeanor.
[51:53.600 --> 51:55.600]  It's a Class C misdemeanor?
[51:55.600 --> 51:56.600]  Yes.
[51:56.600 --> 51:57.600]  Simple assault is?
[51:57.600 --> 51:59.600]  Yes.
[51:59.600 --> 52:03.600]  Well, if you watch the video, you may think that it's something more.
[52:03.600 --> 52:05.600]  I mean, it was pretty aggressive.
[52:05.600 --> 52:14.600]  Even so, if he's convicted, he is to be removed from office immediately.
[52:14.600 --> 52:15.600]  Really?
[52:15.600 --> 52:19.600]  I think we can get him removed anyway.
[52:19.600 --> 52:21.600]  Okay, so, I mean...
[52:21.600 --> 52:24.600]  Well, he could stir up a really nice stink with that,
[52:24.600 --> 52:29.600]  accuse the prosecuting attorney of shielding the governor from prosecution,
[52:29.600 --> 52:35.600]  and then take it to the district judges and accuse them of shielding the governor.
[52:35.600 --> 52:37.600]  Make it a political football.
[52:37.600 --> 52:40.600]  Make it a political football, indeed.
[52:40.600 --> 52:42.600]  Kick it around, make a big stink about it.
[52:42.600 --> 52:44.600]  Rick Perry grabs my camera.
[52:44.600 --> 52:46.600]  Can you imagine?
[52:46.600 --> 52:49.600]  Rick Perry assaults citizen on camera.
[52:49.600 --> 52:51.600]  Oh, Lord, yes, absolutely.
[52:51.600 --> 52:56.600]  We have to get as much mileage out of this one as we can, Randy.
[52:56.600 --> 52:59.600]  It would work for me.
[52:59.600 --> 53:02.600]  They would sure charge him if he touched the governor.
[53:02.600 --> 53:03.600]  No kidding!
[53:03.600 --> 53:09.600]  Can you imagine if Abel grabbed a camera out of Rick Perry's hand?
[53:09.600 --> 53:10.600]  They would have tackled him.
[53:10.600 --> 53:15.600]  He would have been in jail for two days without seeing a magistrate at least.
[53:15.600 --> 53:20.600]  They would have run him out of town on a rail.
[53:20.600 --> 53:21.600]  I mean, come on, people.
[53:21.600 --> 53:23.600]  This double standard's got to go, all right?
[53:23.600 --> 53:25.600]  This is ridiculous.
[53:25.600 --> 53:27.600]  I mean, you've got public officials now, governors,
[53:27.600 --> 53:29.600]  grabbing cameras out of citizens' hands.
[53:29.600 --> 53:31.600]  Come on.
[53:31.600 --> 53:37.600]  I mean, I just can't believe that the guy would have such gall to do something like that.
[53:37.600 --> 53:41.600]  The governor, not even one of his cronies or one of his handlers,
[53:41.600 --> 53:43.600]  but the governor himself.
[53:43.600 --> 53:44.600]  Unbelievable.
[53:44.600 --> 53:45.600]  This is crazy.
[53:45.600 --> 53:47.600]  It's gotten way out of hand.
[53:47.600 --> 53:49.600]  That's a perfect shot at him.
[53:49.600 --> 53:50.600]  Yeah, no kidding, right?
[53:50.600 --> 53:53.600]  Well, nobody ever did anything about him violating the Logan Act.
[53:53.600 --> 53:56.600]  I mean, we should still be able to do something about that.
[53:56.600 --> 53:59.600]  I mean, I just haven't had time to deal with that.
[53:59.600 --> 54:03.600]  We need some folks to step up and file some criminal charges against Rick Perry
[54:03.600 --> 54:07.600]  for violating the Logan Act, okay, twice.
[54:07.600 --> 54:09.600]  He double-violated the Logan Act.
[54:09.600 --> 54:10.600]  This is ridiculous.
[54:10.600 --> 54:11.600]  Nobody's done anything about it.
[54:11.600 --> 54:13.600]  Nobody's brought any charges to a federal grand jury.
[54:13.600 --> 54:17.600]  Nobody's brought any charges to a state grand jury or a prosecutor or anything.
[54:17.600 --> 54:22.600]  I mean, I've heard people complaining up a storm about Rick Perry violating the Logan Act.
[54:22.600 --> 54:28.600]  I mean, it was all over Patriot Talk Radio, every show about him violating the Logan Act,
[54:28.600 --> 54:30.600]  but nobody ever did anything about it.
[54:30.600 --> 54:32.600]  I mean, I just didn't have time.
[54:32.600 --> 54:34.600]  I mean, I just didn't have time.
[54:34.600 --> 54:37.600]  I'm putting out other people's fires as we speak,
[54:37.600 --> 54:40.600]  and I just didn't have time to go after the governor for violating the Logan Act,
[54:40.600 --> 54:44.600]  but I mean, we need some, we need other folks to step up and do these things, people.
[54:44.600 --> 54:47.600]  You know, we can't just depend on me and Randy and Eddie
[54:47.600 --> 54:50.600]  to take down all these public officials over things like this.
[54:50.600 --> 54:52.600]  Other people, you've got time on your hands.
[54:52.600 --> 54:58.600]  Volunteer to be on a grand jury, you know, go after Rick Perry, you know, these kinds of things.
[54:58.600 --> 54:59.600]  Go ahead.
[54:59.600 --> 55:01.600]  Let's get Randy Raylor to do it.
[55:01.600 --> 55:03.600]  Let's get somebody to do it.
[55:03.600 --> 55:07.600]  Let's get Randy to stick his dog on him.
[55:07.600 --> 55:09.600]  Yes, indeed.
[55:09.600 --> 55:15.600]  Okay, well, at any rate, so folks, go to SanAntonioTooth.org,
[55:15.600 --> 55:22.600]  and I know most of the people listening on the radio right now are either in Austin
[55:22.600 --> 55:27.600]  or they're somewhere else listening on the Internet or on another FM station somewhere else.
[55:27.600 --> 55:28.600]  You may not be able to make it down.
[55:28.600 --> 55:32.600]  If you're in Austin, though, SanAntonio is really not that far.
[55:32.600 --> 55:34.600]  It's only an hour away.
[55:34.600 --> 55:40.600]  I mean, shoot, you'll sit in traffic for an hour just driving around town in Austin.
[55:40.600 --> 55:44.600]  So it really is our sister city, and there's a lot of really great people down there.
[55:44.600 --> 55:54.600]  So, folks, you know, I know that there hasn't been a documentary shown at the Alamo Draft House here in Austin
[55:54.600 --> 55:57.600]  for quite some time now, quite a couple number of years.
[55:57.600 --> 56:01.600]  And, you know, I always love to see all these documentaries shown on the big screen.
[56:01.600 --> 56:03.600]  So now's the chance, and I'm going.
[56:03.600 --> 56:07.600]  So that would be April 15th, and I'm sure it's going to be running more than just that one night,
[56:07.600 --> 56:11.600]  but April 15th is the big premiere, and Jason Burmish will be there.
[56:11.600 --> 56:12.600]  So folks, get there early.
[56:12.600 --> 56:14.600]  There will be a limited number of tickets.
[56:14.600 --> 56:19.600]  You might want to buy your tickets online ahead of time because you know the thing's going to sell out.
[56:19.600 --> 56:27.600]  These Alamo Draft House Premiers always sell out, and they're generally sold out pretty far in advance.
[56:27.600 --> 56:29.600]  So that's in the Westlake area.
[56:29.600 --> 56:33.600]  You can get more information at sanantoniotruth.org.
[56:33.600 --> 56:36.600]  Just wonderful people from We Are Change San Antonio.
[56:36.600 --> 56:37.600]  So happy to meet them.
[56:37.600 --> 56:42.600]  So, Randy, you want to go down?
[56:42.600 --> 56:43.600]  April 15th?
[56:43.600 --> 56:45.600]  Yeah, I should be back in town.
[56:45.600 --> 56:47.600]  Okay, wonderful.
[56:47.600 --> 56:48.600]  I'm there.
[56:48.600 --> 56:53.600]  I think that's a Thursday night, so I won't be on the show at that point in time
[56:53.600 --> 56:57.600]  because I want to cover the event and see if I can get some interviews with some people
[56:57.600 --> 57:00.600]  on recording that I could play later on.
[57:00.600 --> 57:05.600]  And so now we're at the top of the hour, and folks, well, go ahead and open up the phone lines.
[57:05.600 --> 57:11.600]  512-646-1984, and we're going to segue here.
[57:11.600 --> 57:15.600]  Eddie, you have a bombshell for us.
[57:15.600 --> 57:17.600]  Actually, I think I do.
[57:17.600 --> 57:24.600]  I managed to get my hands on the links to the 1925 revised statutes for Texas,
[57:24.600 --> 57:27.600]  and I was going through the tax code.
[57:27.600 --> 57:37.600]  You'll never guess what I found in the tax code under the old Article 7214 for the oath of assessor.
[57:37.600 --> 57:44.600]  There is an oath in here that takes up half a page that every assessor collector in the state of Texas
[57:44.600 --> 57:51.600]  is required by law to take and sign, other than the one that's in the Constitution.
[57:51.600 --> 57:52.600]  Wow, cool.
[57:52.600 --> 58:01.600]  If it turns out that there has been no substantive change, which is what all the law books say,
[58:01.600 --> 58:05.600]  this oath has been omitted from the current revisions of the statutes,
[58:05.600 --> 58:11.600]  which means there's been a substantive change without an alteration of the law,
[58:11.600 --> 58:23.600]  and all of the tax assessments in Texas for the last 80-some odd years are null and void.
[58:23.600 --> 58:24.600]  Interesting.
[58:24.600 --> 58:27.600]  I think I'm going to have fun with that.
[58:27.600 --> 58:28.600]  I think we will, too.
[58:28.600 --> 58:30.600]  We've got Steve from California.
[58:30.600 --> 58:32.600]  All right, Eddie's going to go over this some more on the other side.
[58:32.600 --> 58:39.600]  Callers, if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984, we'll be right back after this top of the hour break.
[58:39.600 --> 58:59.600]  And we'll report news.
[58:59.600 --> 59:03.600]  My name is Randall Kelton, and I co-host on Rule of Law Radio.
[59:03.600 --> 59:08.600]  We specialize in showing people how to strike back against corrupt public officials
[59:08.600 --> 59:10.600]  with the mortgage crisis worsening.
[59:10.600 --> 59:15.600]  We set our sights on finding a remedy for people who have been cheated by their lenders.
[59:15.600 --> 59:20.600]  If you have a mortgage or have paid yours off, you have probably been cheated out of thousands.
[59:20.600 --> 59:21.600]  But there is a remedy.
[59:21.600 --> 59:29.600]  Go to remediesinrealestate.com or call me at 512-430-4140
[59:29.600 --> 59:32.600]  and find out how to use the consumer protection laws
[59:32.600 --> 59:36.600]  to recover what the lenders have stolen through fraud and deception.
[59:36.600 --> 59:41.600]  We will prepare for you a qualified written request that will expose the fraud
[59:41.600 --> 59:43.600]  and put the lenders on the dime.
[59:43.600 --> 59:47.600]  Lender fraud is bankrupting this country, and it's time to fight back.
[59:47.600 --> 59:54.600]  Go to remediesinrealestate.com or call 512-430-4140
[59:54.600 --> 59:59.600]  and get the information you need to stop the money changers in their tracks.
[59:59.600 --> 01:00:03.600]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[01:00:03.600 --> 01:00:08.600]  Liberal and progressive organizations that helped propel Barack Obama to the White House
[01:00:08.600 --> 01:00:12.600]  are now turning on him a little more than the year after he took office.
[01:00:12.600 --> 01:00:16.600]  Their collective discontent on issues from health care to nuclear energy
[01:00:16.600 --> 01:00:21.600]  to the handling of terrorism suspects could mean bad news for Democrats
[01:00:21.600 --> 01:00:24.600]  during this year's midterm elections.
[01:00:24.600 --> 01:00:27.600]  The State Department says in its latest Human Rights Report,
[01:00:27.600 --> 01:00:31.600]  many governments use the Internet to curtail freedom of expression.
[01:00:31.600 --> 01:00:35.600]  The report highlights human rights violations in China against the Uighurs
[01:00:35.600 --> 01:00:38.600]  and extrajudicial killings in North Korea.
[01:00:38.600 --> 01:00:43.600]  Iran's human rights record also degenerated after elections.
[01:00:43.600 --> 01:00:47.600]  Barack Obama has urged China to raise the value of the yuan
[01:00:47.600 --> 01:00:49.600]  and thus benefit U.S. exporters.
[01:00:49.600 --> 01:00:52.600]  Obama said China should help rebalance global trade
[01:00:52.600 --> 01:00:56.600]  to ensure that U.S. goods were not completely disadvantaged.
[01:00:56.600 --> 01:00:58.600]  His comments risk upsetting Beijing,
[01:00:58.600 --> 01:01:01.600]  which says currency issues are an internal matter.
[01:01:01.600 --> 01:01:06.600]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[01:01:06.600 --> 01:01:10.600]  A new report by the Congressional Oversight Panel to be released Thursday
[01:01:10.600 --> 01:01:15.600]  says the Treasury Department sank billions into auto finance giant GMAC
[01:01:15.600 --> 01:01:20.600]  without proof the company was viable and without an exit strategy.
[01:01:20.600 --> 01:01:24.600]  The decision could cost taxpayers $6.3 billion.
[01:01:24.600 --> 01:01:28.600]  The government said the bailout was needed to save troubled automakers
[01:01:28.600 --> 01:01:30.600]  General Motors and Chrysler.
[01:01:30.600 --> 01:01:34.600]  GMAC provides interim financing to auto dealers for their fleets
[01:01:34.600 --> 01:01:37.600]  until cars can be sold to consumers.
[01:01:37.600 --> 01:01:43.600]  The report says GMAC faced far fewer conditions than the bailed-out automakers.
[01:01:43.600 --> 01:01:46.600]  When the automakers were rescued, they were forced into bankruptcy.
[01:01:46.600 --> 01:01:50.600]  Shareholders lost their investments, creditors took a hit,
[01:01:50.600 --> 01:01:55.600]  and executives were forced to detail plans for making the companies viable.
[01:01:55.600 --> 01:01:58.600]  GMAC was treated more like a bailed-out bank,
[01:01:58.600 --> 01:02:01.600]  not having to explain what it was doing with the money.
[01:02:01.600 --> 01:02:05.600]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[01:02:05.600 --> 01:02:10.600]  New research by University of California professor Dr. Kirsten Bibbins Domingo
[01:02:10.600 --> 01:02:12.600]  reveals that over the last decade,
[01:02:12.600 --> 01:02:18.600]  soda consumption has conservatively caused 130,000 new cases of diabetes
[01:02:18.600 --> 01:02:21.600]  and 13,000 new cases of heart disease.
[01:02:21.600 --> 01:02:23.600]  Bibbins Domingo says,
[01:02:23.600 --> 01:02:27.600]  The findings suggest that any kind of policy that reduces consumption
[01:02:27.600 --> 01:02:29.600]  might have a dramatic health benefit.
[01:02:29.600 --> 01:02:34.600]  The lobbyist's American Beverage Association says the study doesn't count
[01:02:34.600 --> 01:02:37.600]  because it hasn't been published in a peer-reviewed medical journal.
[01:02:37.600 --> 01:02:42.600]  Critics blast the lobbyist's defense, saying high fructose corn syrup,
[01:02:42.600 --> 01:02:47.600]  sometimes dubbed liquid Satan, should be considered a dietary poison
[01:02:47.600 --> 01:02:51.600]  that causes disease while contributing to nutritional deficiencies
[01:02:51.600 --> 01:02:53.600]  that accelerate disease.
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[01:03:46.600 --> 01:03:52.600]  You can get the video and the audio from the architects and engineers
[01:03:52.600 --> 01:03:57.600]  for 9-11 Truth Conference, which was held this past Saturday here in Austin, Texas.
[01:03:57.600 --> 01:04:00.600]  You can get that off of the Rule of Law Radio website.
[01:04:00.600 --> 01:04:07.600]  On the home page, we just spoke with Matthew Medina and Abel Rodriguez
[01:04:07.600 --> 01:04:09.600]  from We Are Change San Antonio.
[01:04:09.600 --> 01:04:12.600]  Awesome, awesome group of people down there, really love them,
[01:04:12.600 --> 01:04:14.600]  brand new friends, great people.
[01:04:14.600 --> 01:04:17.600]  All right, we have Casey from Texas, Steve from California.
[01:04:17.600 --> 01:04:21.600]  Guys, just hang on the line for a moment because Eddie wants to finish up here
[01:04:21.600 --> 01:04:23.600]  talking about this bombshell.
[01:04:23.600 --> 01:04:24.600]  Go ahead, Eddie.
[01:04:24.600 --> 01:04:31.600]  Yeah, well, in the 1925 Code under Article 7214, there is an oath of assessor,
[01:04:31.600 --> 01:04:34.600]  and it starts out with these words,
[01:04:34.600 --> 01:04:37.600]  every tax assessor and deputy tax assessor in this state,
[01:04:37.600 --> 01:04:41.600]  in addition to the oath prescribed by the Constitution of this state,
[01:04:41.600 --> 01:04:45.600]  shall, before entering upon the duties of his office,
[01:04:45.600 --> 01:04:47.600]  take and subscribe to the following oath.
[01:04:47.600 --> 01:04:50.600]  And in part, this is a long oath.
[01:04:50.600 --> 01:04:54.600]  It's way longer than the constitutional requirement, but this is basically the beginning of what it says,
[01:04:54.600 --> 01:04:57.600]  which is what makes this important.
[01:04:57.600 --> 01:05:03.600]  I, and whatever their name is, tax assessor or deputy tax assessor, as the case may be,
[01:05:03.600 --> 01:05:06.600]  in and for whatever county, Texas,
[01:05:06.600 --> 01:05:14.600]  do solemnly swear that I will personally view and inspect all the real estate and improvements thereon
[01:05:14.600 --> 01:05:26.600]  subject to taxation lying in said county that may be rendered to me for taxation by any corporation or individual
[01:05:26.600 --> 01:05:31.600]  or by their agent or representative as fully as may be practicable,
[01:05:31.600 --> 01:05:34.600]  and that I will, as fully as is practicable,
[01:05:34.600 --> 01:05:41.600]  view and inspect all other property in said county rendered to me as aforesaid.
[01:05:41.600 --> 01:05:44.600]  Now, that's just the beginning of this.
[01:05:44.600 --> 01:05:52.600]  But this right here, when was the last time you saw a tax assessor actually personally go and inspect a piece of property
[01:05:52.600 --> 01:05:54.600]  before assessing a tax on it?
[01:05:54.600 --> 01:05:56.600]  I've never seen one do it.
[01:05:56.600 --> 01:05:58.600]  I've never even heard of such a thing.
[01:05:58.600 --> 01:06:03.600]  I've never seen one on a piece of property that's had a tax bill sent to it.
[01:06:03.600 --> 01:06:06.600]  And I've actually questioned them.
[01:06:06.600 --> 01:06:09.600]  For instance, they sent me a tax bill for $25,000.
[01:06:09.600 --> 01:06:12.600]  I told them to go climb up a tree and jump.
[01:06:12.600 --> 01:06:14.600]  Number one, I wasn't paying it.
[01:06:14.600 --> 01:06:19.600]  Number two, there hadn't been anybody out there to assess what the value of my property was.
[01:06:19.600 --> 01:06:22.600]  If they had, I'd have known it.
[01:06:22.600 --> 01:06:24.600]  And no one's been out there and they admit it.
[01:06:24.600 --> 01:06:26.600]  No, we haven't ever come out there.
[01:06:26.600 --> 01:06:29.600]  We just based upon the records of such and such.
[01:06:29.600 --> 01:06:31.600]  I'm going like, yeah, that's what I figured.
[01:06:31.600 --> 01:06:35.600]  Well, this right here proves they're supposed to personally inspect it
[01:06:35.600 --> 01:06:38.600]  and ascertain what the fair market value is.
[01:06:38.600 --> 01:06:40.600]  They don't do that.
[01:06:40.600 --> 01:06:44.600]  When they cough up a number out of thin air without doing what the law requires them to do,
[01:06:44.600 --> 01:06:46.600]  guess what, folks?
[01:06:46.600 --> 01:06:49.600]  They're committing fraud.
[01:06:49.600 --> 01:06:52.600]  And we need to go after them for it.
[01:06:52.600 --> 01:06:54.600]  Now, this is the other interesting part.
[01:06:54.600 --> 01:07:00.600]  The 1925 codes required an awful lot of O's of office for folks.
[01:07:00.600 --> 01:07:05.600]  This is what had to be done for the oath of the board
[01:07:05.600 --> 01:07:09.600]  when a county commissioner's court convenes for equalization of taxation of property.
[01:07:09.600 --> 01:07:13.600]  Listen to this, oath of board.
[01:07:13.600 --> 01:07:16.600]  When a commissioner's court convenes as a board of equalization
[01:07:16.600 --> 01:07:22.600]  before considering the subject of equalization of property values for the purposes of taxation,
[01:07:22.600 --> 01:07:26.600]  each member of the court, including the county judge,
[01:07:26.600 --> 01:07:30.600]  shall take and subscribe to the following oath.
[01:07:30.600 --> 01:07:37.600]  I, their name, a member of the board of equalization of whatever county for the year A.D. whatever,
[01:07:37.600 --> 01:07:43.600]  hereby solemnly swear that in the performance of my duties as a member of such board for said year,
[01:07:43.600 --> 01:07:51.600]  I will not vote to allow any taxable property to stand assessed on the tax rolls of said county for said year
[01:07:51.600 --> 01:07:55.600]  at any sum which I believe to be less than its true market value,
[01:07:55.600 --> 01:08:00.600]  or if it has no market value, then it's real value.
[01:08:00.600 --> 01:08:03.600]  Now, the value is not the important part here.
[01:08:03.600 --> 01:08:09.600]  The important part here is when was the last time the commissioner's court convened with the county judge
[01:08:09.600 --> 01:08:16.600]  and before setting an equalization board in motion, took this oath.
[01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:24.600]  Now, the section that follows both of these is Neglect of Duty Cause for Removal.
[01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:31.600]  And it goes through all the things necessary to have the county commissioners, the assessor, the county judge,
[01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:37.600]  whoever didn't abide by these statutes, to have them removed.
[01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:43.600]  Guess what does not appear in any current version of the statutes?
[01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:52.600]  Neither of these oaths, nor the Neglect of Duty for Cause Removal statute.
[01:08:52.600 --> 01:08:54.600]  Why is that?
[01:08:54.600 --> 01:09:00.600]  If it turns out that we go look at the actual book and there is a certification by the secretary of state
[01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:10.600]  that that publication is a true and correct copy of the actual laws from 1925, where are these oaths?
[01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:15.600]  If they're not in there, then the current statutes are not a true and correct copy.
[01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:21.600]  Somebody is committing fraud through omission, and they're doing it intentionally.
[01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:29.600]  And we need to make a state about it, a state that can be smelled around the country if I can help it.
[01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:31.600]  But that's all I got for the moment.
[01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:33.600]  There will be more later.
[01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:36.600]  Well, we definitely have to do something about it.
[01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:44.600]  And, you know, speaking of this oath thing, the reason, or at least one of the reasons,
[01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:49.600]  why I finally realized it's so important, why these people have to have an oath,
[01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:56.600]  why they need to take it is because that's where a human being crosses the line
[01:09:56.600 --> 01:10:07.600]  between just being a sovereign human being crosses the line over to being a public servant subject to us.
[01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:11.600]  And they have to be bound by their conscience because now they're placed in a position
[01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:17.600]  of being able to deprive the sovereign people of life, liberty, and property.
[01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:20.600]  And that's why they have to take an oath.
[01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:23.600]  And that's where they cross that line over, and they have to do it.
[01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:26.600]  And I've been trying to figure out why they don't do it.
[01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:31.600]  And I think one of the reasons is because they're not using their real names.
[01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:32.600]  They're using aliases.
[01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:34.600]  And these oaths have to be notarized.
[01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:40.600]  And a notary is an officer of the court, and they're not going to put their butt on the line to go to jail
[01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:50.600]  and lose their commission for notarizing a document where it's not really the person who's signing.
[01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:58.600]  That's basically what a notary is for, is that the notary verifies that you are who you say you are when you sign that paper.
[01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:04.600]  So the oath is very important because without that oath, they're not a public servant.
[01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:06.600]  They haven't been bound by their conscience.
[01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:07.600]  That is correct.
[01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:15.600]  They have not crossed the line to be bound by their conscience to be a servant of the people.
[01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:17.600]  And that is absolutely necessary.
[01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:27.600]  That is the only assurance that we have that they are not going to just rampantly deprive us of our life, liberty, and property.
[01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:29.600]  That's why they have to take that oath.
[01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:39.600]  Right. And the problem they've got is that the entire reason for the oath is because the founding fathers knew men were inherently treacherous.
[01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:40.600]  Right.
[01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:42.600]  The oath is there to make them accountable.
[01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:43.600]  Absolutely.
[01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:52.600]  But now since these people did not take the oath, then in true understanding of the terminology,
[01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:58.600]  they have usurped the powers of office to which they do not belong.
[01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:00.600]  They're imposters.
[01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:04.600]  Which means we can get rid of them through a quote-unquote warranty procedure.
[01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:08.600]  I think the statute says they abandoned the office.
[01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:10.600]  They can't abandon an office that never qualifies them.
[01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:11.600]  That's right.
[01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:13.600]  They never took office in the first place.
[01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:16.600]  It's kind of like Barry Sartaro.
[01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:21.600]  It's not proper to put him through impeachment proceedings because he never took office.
[01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:24.600]  He's illegally occupying it.
[01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:31.600]  If you're appointed to the office, then in order to complete the process, you have to swear to the oath.
[01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:36.600]  If you fail to swear to the oath, you abandon the office you were appointed to.
[01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:47.600]  Well, but the only part about that I disagree with, Randy, is that it specifically states the beginning of these oaths before presuming the duties of office.
[01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:48.600]  Absolutely.
[01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:55.600]  That's what the case law called it.
[01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:59.600]  We're making a distinction without a difference here.
[01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:00.600]  Yeah.
[01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:01.600]  Okay.
[01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:02.600]  Well, go ahead, Eddie.
[01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:10.600]  I was just going to say it's just one of those things where these people, if they don't complete everything they're supposed to before they go in, they're not in.
[01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:11.600]  Right.
[01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:13.600]  And they're impersonating a public official.
[01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:14.600]  That's correct.
[01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:18.600]  Yeah, it's like a public official that gets elected.
[01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:26.600]  If he doesn't meet all of the statutory requirements, he abandons the office and the office is vacated.
[01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:27.600]  Right.
[01:13:27.600 --> 01:13:32.600]  And we can remove any of them from office in that regard in a court warrant to a proceeding.
[01:13:32.600 --> 01:13:33.600]  Absolutely.
[01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:34.600]  We can have any of them removed.
[01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:35.600]  Absolutely.
[01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:39.600]  That may be what needs to happen with Mr. Barry Sartaro.
[01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:40.600]  Okay.
[01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:41.600]  Let's go to the calls now.
[01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:44.600]  We've got Casey from Texas.
[01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:45.600]  Casey, thanks for calling in.
[01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:46.600]  First time caller.
[01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:47.600]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:52.600]  Yeah, Randy, Deborah, Eddie, it's a pleasure talking to you guys.
[01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:59.600]  And I just want to let you guys know, first of all, that I really appreciate all the time you guys put into the work that you do.
[01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:06.600]  And it's really helping us out here, those of us that are taking advantage of it anyhow.
[01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:14.600]  And I've got a particular court case that I'm involved in.
[01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:21.600]  I was charged with a Class B misdemeanor in Tom Green County in San Angelo.
[01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:30.600]  And I just had some questions, you know, as to some of this due process.
[01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:31.600]  Let's see, I've got some notes here.
[01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:32.600]  Let's see.
[01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:34.600]  What's the Class C?
[01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:37.600]  The Class B is possession of marijuana.
[01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:40.600]  I'll give you a little background on it, I guess.
[01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:44.600]  Which of the five varieties were you in possession of?
[01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:45.600]  I have no idea.
[01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:48.600]  I didn't even see it, to tell you the truth.
[01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:53.600]  So they just told me that they found some and took me to jail.
[01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:55.600]  And that's, you know, I've been jailed for a long time.
[01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:59.600]  They told you they found some and didn't show it to you?
[01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:01.600]  No, they didn't even show it to me.
[01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:04.600]  I've never seen it.
[01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:06.600]  But what happened was I got pulled over.
[01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:09.600]  I stopped at a convenience store and I turned my headlights off
[01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:12.600]  because they were shining right in the window at some people.
[01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:15.600]  And I forgot to turn them back on, so they pulled me over.
[01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:20.600]  And the two officers, you know, started asking me questions, blah, blah, blah.
[01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:24.600]  And they were about to let me go when the K-9 cop pulled up.
[01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:25.600]  They didn't call him.
[01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:26.600]  He just showed up.
[01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:29.600]  And I sat there and watched this happen.
[01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:31.600]  He walked up to the window.
[01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:35.600]  He walked up to the two officers, talked for a little while, went up to my truck,
[01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:37.600]  asked one of the officers.
[01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:39.600]  He said, I smell marijuana.
[01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:41.600]  Do you smell marijuana?
[01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:43.600]  And the officer said no.
[01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:45.600]  So he asked the other officer.
[01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:46.600]  He said no.
[01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:52.600]  So he calls in another officer in another car, came up five or ten minutes later,
[01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:59.600]  walked him up to my truck and asked him, you know, very, very directly,
[01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:00.600]  I smell marijuana.
[01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:01.600]  Do you smell marijuana?
[01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:03.600]  And finally he said yes.
[01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:08.600]  I was on the side of the road for two hours before I actually went to jail.
[01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:12.600]  And they actually did find him, which I was surprised because, you know,
[01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:17.600]  I didn't have anything on me that I knew of, you know, for sure in my truck.
[01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:20.600]  I don't carry, you know, I don't have any of that on me ever.
[01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:22.600]  Well, but you said you never saw it.
[01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:25.600]  So how do you know they found something that you're sure of?
[01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:26.600]  What then?
[01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:27.600]  You said you never saw it.
[01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:30.600]  So how do you know they found something that you're sure of?
[01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:31.600]  I don't.
[01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:37.600]  No, he's saying he knows for sure he didn't have any when they pulled him over.
[01:16:37.600 --> 01:16:39.600]  Okay, Casey, hold on, Casey.
[01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:44.600]  Yeah, this is typical and this sounds like what happened to me at the Rainbow,
[01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:47.600]  except they didn't go so far as to plant anything on me.
[01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:51.600]  I think they knew better at that point in time.
[01:16:51.600 --> 01:16:55.600]  So I'm suing these guys at the Forestry Service, but we'll be right back, Casey.
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[01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:26.600]  Okay, not going to fool us with the same old tricks again.
[01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:30.600]  This sounds like a violation of the Terry Stop Ruling.
[01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:33.600]  Please continue, Casey.
[01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:37.600]  Okay, so, you know, that's a work truck and I do construction,
[01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:39.600]  and I have a lot of people in and out of there,
[01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:41.600]  and I can't say that it wasn't in there necessarily.
[01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:46.600]  Like I say, I never even saw it, but anyhow, so I've been, this was over a year ago,
[01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:49.600]  and I've been kind of putting it off, and I went ahead,
[01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:53.600]  I've been listening to you guys for about a year and a half, mostly archives,
[01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:57.600]  and this happened a little over a year ago,
[01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:00.600]  and I went ahead and got the court-appointed attorney.
[01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:01.600]  I didn't want to.
[01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:04.600]  I told the judge I was going to represent myself,
[01:19:04.600 --> 01:19:09.600]  and he told me a little lame parable about the judge who thought he was an electrician
[01:19:09.600 --> 01:19:15.600]  and burned his house down, which was, you know, just silly.
[01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:21.600]  But anyhow, he said go ahead and try him, you know, and so I did.
[01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:26.600]  But anyhow, now I'm trying to fiddle this game plan together.
[01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:33.600]  I have a pretrial in about 10 days and then trial in about 20, 21, 22 days
[01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:35.600]  or something like that.
[01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:39.600]  Okay, move to dismiss Too Old to Prosecute.
[01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:41.600]  Move to dismiss.
[01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:43.600]  Too Old to Prosecute, speedy trial demand.
[01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:48.600]  Go to your attorney and tell him to file a motion to dismiss violations,
[01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:52.600]  constitutional right to a speedy trial.
[01:19:52.600 --> 01:20:00.600]  If he gives you any crap at all, take a copy of a bar grievance form with you,
[01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:03.600]  lay it down in front of him, and start filling it out.
[01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:08.600]  Yeah, I have all these forms, a lot of them off your website.
[01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:12.600]  There's some prudence that I'm planning on using, and I've got a few.
[01:20:12.600 --> 01:20:20.600]  I was wondering when I was taking to jail that night, I never saw a magistrate at all.
[01:20:20.600 --> 01:20:26.600]  I was released on bond about five hours after I was taken in.
[01:20:26.600 --> 01:20:29.600]  This was about 2 o'clock in the morning.
[01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:46.600]  And I was wondering, do I have any way to, you know, the aggravated kidnapping or...
[01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:47.600]  You've got all of it.
[01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:49.600]  I'm charged. I have all of it.
[01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:51.600]  I never saw a magistrate.
[01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:53.600]  What time did they arrest you?
[01:20:53.600 --> 01:20:55.600]  They arrested me at about 11 o'clock.
[01:20:55.600 --> 01:21:01.600]  They can claim there was no magistrate available at that time,
[01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:05.600]  but they will have to show that they made an effort to locate a magistrate.
[01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:06.600]  And they did not.
[01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:10.600]  There was no due diligence made whatsoever to locate a magistrate.
[01:21:10.600 --> 01:21:13.600]  That can be established as a matter of policy.
[01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:21.600]  I suggest you prepare a tort letter to the commissioner's court
[01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:28.600]  and claim an action against the officers and all of the jailers who were in the jail that night.
[01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:29.600]  Right.
[01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:35.600]  And whoever the magistrate was who somebody had to sign the warrant,
[01:21:35.600 --> 01:21:38.600]  because there had to be a warrant issued if you were arrested.
[01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:39.600]  Yeah.
[01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:46.600]  And if there was a hearing on that, then I was not there, so that's...
[01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:50.600]  Good. Good. You sound like you know the routine.
[01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:53.600]  So you want to find the warrant.
[01:21:53.600 --> 01:22:01.600]  1620, 16.20 Code of Criminal Procedure requires after an arrest without a warrant,
[01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:07.600]  when a determination of probable cause is made, the magistrate must create a warrant.
[01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:08.600]  Right.
[01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:11.600]  You want to know where it's at. You want to know who created it.
[01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:12.600]  Right.
[01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:20.600]  And when he created it, and when he held a hearing under Chapter 16.
[01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:21.600]  Right.
[01:22:21.600 --> 01:22:24.600]  And well, I was curious about that.
[01:22:24.600 --> 01:22:33.600]  I was unsure about that, because in some places in the Code, like in the Code of Criminal Procedure 17.033,
[01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:40.600]  when it talks about release on bond of certain persons arrested, it says in there that...
[01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:44.600]  Let's see.
[01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:51.600]  If a person has to be released on bond after the 24th hour,
[01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:58.600]  if the person was arrested for a misdemeanor and a magistrate has not determined whether probable cause exists.
[01:22:58.600 --> 01:22:59.600]  So does that mean...
[01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:11.600]  Release or not, it doesn't relieve the police of the duty to make a due diligence effort to take you before a magistrate.
[01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:16.600]  They can't just say, well, we'll just hold him 24 hours and let him go on a bond.
[01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:22.600]  17.20, 21, 22 authorizes the police to set bond themselves,
[01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:26.600]  or to release you in certain circumstances where bond is preset.
[01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:27.600]  Right.
[01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:36.600]  But their duty to make a due diligence effort to locate a magistrate is not abated because they let you go after 24 hours.
[01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:37.600]  Okay.
[01:23:37.600 --> 01:23:44.600]  And possession of marijuana is not one of those things mentioned in 17.20, 21, 22.
[01:23:44.600 --> 01:23:46.600]  Right.
[01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:48.600]  So they've got a problem.
[01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:51.600]  I can file the speedy trial motion.
[01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:58.600]  I should go ahead and file a criminal complaint against the arresting officer.
[01:23:58.600 --> 01:23:59.600]  Absolutely.
[01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:01.600]  And against the jailers.
[01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:02.600]  Okay.
[01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:06.600]  They're the innocent party and they will scream the loudest.
[01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:07.600]  Right.
[01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:13.600]  You want discovery for the names of all the jailers who were in the jail at the time you were in there.
[01:24:13.600 --> 01:24:14.600]  Right.
[01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:24.600]  And so I should also, I'm going to have all this, like I said, I have this court appointed attorney, so I'm not sure how that works if I'm stuck with him.
[01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:25.600]  Oh, that's great.
[01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:27.600]  You can work him over.
[01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:29.600]  Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
[01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:37.600]  But I've got a lot of motions that I'm wanting to give to him and, you know, if he doesn't want to barge or even...
[01:24:37.600 --> 01:24:49.600]  Let your court appointed attorney know that you failed to adjudicate just one of my due process rights, I'll file a bar grievance against you for each one.
[01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:50.600]  Right.
[01:24:50.600 --> 01:25:02.600]  And then I also realized going through the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure here that if you don't file these motions on your original trials, then you cannot use them in an appeal.
[01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:08.600]  Right, unless, the only ones you can use are challenges to subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:11.600]  We absolutely need these motions filed.
[01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:12.600]  Right.
[01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:17.600]  And so I should do, I should do, I should definitely do a challenge to jurisdiction.
[01:25:17.600 --> 01:25:19.600]  Send me an email.
[01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:25.600]  I'll send you a copy of a, some really ugly motions you can file.
[01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:26.600]  Okay.
[01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:28.600]  You'll have to adjust them to your case.
[01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:35.600]  And give them to your attorney and say, file them. When he says no, take out your bar grievance form and start filling it out for him.
[01:25:35.600 --> 01:25:42.600]  And file a motion for appointment of new counsel because the court's denied you effective counsel.
[01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:43.600]  Okay.
[01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:59.600]  Also, I did go to the county clerk and get the file under this cause number on my case here and they do have a criminal complaint in there.
[01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:06.600]  In a criminal complaint, do they have to list the specific statutes that they're charging you with?
[01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:15.600]  Not if the statement is clear enough from the, there's some ambiguity in the case law on that.
[01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:22.600]  Wait a minute, how can they charge you with a crime if they're not going to state specifically what statute they're accusing you of violating?
[01:26:22.600 --> 01:26:25.600]  That's where there's ambiguity in the case law.
[01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:26.600]  Well.
[01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:35.600]  They're saying that a statement of the statute is insufficient. There has to be a statement of the crime, of the act you're, you're accused of committing.
[01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:40.600]  Yeah, but that doesn't mean that they don't have to state the specific statute.
[01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:43.600]  That's where the case law wasn't clear.
[01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:54.600]  It just says that the state, to me that sounds like they're just saying that stating the statute isn't enough that you have to state what the, some kind of description of the crime.
[01:26:54.600 --> 01:27:04.600]  That doesn't exempt them from stating the statute that they're claiming you violated. They're just saying that may not be enough.
[01:27:04.600 --> 01:27:08.600]  What the case law is saying that that's enough for the filing of the complaint.
[01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:17.600]  Now you can file a motion for, to be advised of the nature and cause and ask for more clarity.
[01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:21.600]  But they're saying that's enough to make the accusation.
[01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:24.600]  Yeah, well, something, something's got to be wrong with that.
[01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:33.600]  That's, there's got to be more case law that clarifies that, Randy, because otherwise they can just say, well, you committed a crime because you ate chocolate chip cookies.
[01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:35.600]  I mean, they're essentially doing that.
[01:27:35.600 --> 01:27:41.600]  Okay. Well, they can't do that. All right. That's, that's got to be some kind of bizarre misinterpretation.
[01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:50.600]  There's got to be other case law. I mean, they can't just make up laws that you're breaking that have never been passed by Congress.
[01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:52.600]  They can't just make things up.
[01:27:52.600 --> 01:27:54.600]  That was a place in the case law.
[01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:58.600]  That does not, that does not even make sense on a common sense level.
[01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:03.600]  That cannot be what it means just like going back to the includes and including thing.
[01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:11.600]  It can't just simply be an expansive term because otherwise it can mean anything.
[01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:14.600]  Okay. And that just doesn't make sense on a common sense level.
[01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:21.600]  There's got to be other, there's got to be other details in there that, that we have overlooked.
[01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:23.600]  That's why I had a problem there.
[01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:25.600]  Yeah. Well, it can't mean that. There's no way.
[01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:28.600]  You're giving these guys way too much credit though. That's the problem.
[01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:31.600]  Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
[01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:39.600]  Well, you're giving the credit for the law being well thought out and in some areas it's not well covered.
[01:28:39.600 --> 01:28:45.600]  This looked like an area where the courts were trying to give the police more leeway.
[01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:49.600]  I've got a couple of other areas that are absolutely horrendous, but they're in the case law.
[01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:52.600]  Yeah. Well, that just doesn't even make sense on a common sense level, like I said.
[01:28:52.600 --> 01:29:01.600]  It's, it's, there's got to be other, other clarifications there because when something makes no sense, then it can't mean that.
[01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:03.600]  That's just all there is to it.
[01:29:03.600 --> 01:29:05.600]  It may, but I couldn't find it.
[01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:05.600]  Okay. Well.
[01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:06.600]  And I certainly searched for it.
[01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:08.600]  Well, yeah, but that's just not what it.
[01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:10.600]  That doesn't mean it doesn't exist because I couldn't find it.
[01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:17.600]  Well, like I said, you, you have to look at just because it's not enough to state the statute.
[01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:20.600]  That doesn't mean that they are exempted from stating the statute.
[01:29:20.600 --> 01:29:25.600]  You know, you have to look at, you know, go back to breaking down set with set theory.
[01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:28.600]  I can only claim the law is the way the law says it is.
[01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:33.600]  Right. Well, so that we just have to go back to the statute then when the case law is unclear.
[01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:40.600]  All right. Listen, Casey, send us an email or have you call back in because we've got a half an hour left and we've got a bunch of callers.
[01:29:40.600 --> 01:29:43.600]  Send me an email and I'll send you some documents.
[01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:44.600]  All right. Thanks guys.
[01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:53.600]  Sure. Okay. Thanks, Casey. All right. We got Steve from California, Tim from Texas, James from Texas, Mark from Michigan.
[01:29:53.600 --> 01:29:54.600]  We got a half an hour left.
[01:29:54.600 --> 01:30:00.600]  So we're going to try to take two calls per segment coming right up.
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[01:31:00.600 --> 01:31:04.600]  Yeah, who you want to chip? Who you take me for? Free Tully?
[01:31:04.600 --> 01:31:07.600]  Who you want to chip? Me no free Tully. You can't chip me.
[01:31:07.600 --> 01:31:14.600]  All I'm saying is all of them chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening, put a chip in your body.
[01:31:14.600 --> 01:31:18.600]  And then when you go computer reading, you can't hide me from nobody.
[01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:24.600]  What me say? Chip in your mom, chip in your daddy, chip in your grandpa and the grammy.
[01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:29.600]  Chip in me, chip in your baby, chip in your family, whole family.
[01:31:29.600 --> 01:31:34.600]  Chip in your dad and the cap around me. Chip in the beef and you still go eat it.
[01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:39.600]  Chip in the fish, them fall in the sea. Chip in the shark and the whale around me.
[01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:41.600]  You know, still mankind, you ain't chip crazy.
[01:31:41.600 --> 01:31:47.600]  Okay, we're going to your calls. We've got Steve in California. Steve, thanks for holding. What's on your mind tonight?
[01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:49.600]  Good evening, everybody. How are you doing?
[01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:50.600]  Pretty good.
[01:31:50.600 --> 01:31:54.600]  Okay. I've been pretty busy since the last time we spoke.
[01:31:54.600 --> 01:32:00.600]  I'm in Montclair and I was telling you last time we spoke that I was going to go to the city council meeting
[01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:04.600]  and lay it on the mayor and the city council members.
[01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:08.600]  You're the one that's been having way too much fun.
[01:32:08.600 --> 01:32:09.600]  Just a little bit.
[01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:10.600]  Oh, okay.
[01:32:10.600 --> 01:32:16.600]  I received the documents, the oath of office and what they call their bonds.
[01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:24.600]  They're using a blanket insurance policy and this insurance policy is supposed to cover all public officials.
[01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:30.600]  Well, California Government Code, Section 1463, let me read it real short.
[01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:38.600]  For the purposes of this chapter, a government crime insurance policy or employee dishonesty insurance policy,
[01:32:38.600 --> 01:32:47.600]  including a faithful performance, may be provided as an alternative to the official bond by any county or city,
[01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:53.600]  subject to the approval by the presiding judge of the superior court and recording and filing
[01:32:53.600 --> 01:33:01.600]  as provided in Sections 1457 to 1460.1 inclusive, period.
[01:33:01.600 --> 01:33:06.600]  An insurance policy procured pursuant to this section may be used as a master bond,
[01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:12.600]  but were as though it was an official bond subject to approval of the point of power
[01:33:12.600 --> 01:33:17.600]  or the legislative body provided in Sections 1481.
[01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:26.600]  Okay, 1457 said that unless otherwise provided, the official bonds of all officers of a county
[01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:31.600]  or judicial district shall be approved by the presiding judge of the superior court,
[01:33:31.600 --> 01:33:37.600]  recorded in the office of the county recorder, then filed in the county clerk's office.
[01:33:37.600 --> 01:33:43.600]  Okay, I have been to the county recorder's office.
[01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:46.600]  No such document exists.
[01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:48.600]  I have been to the county clerk's office.
[01:33:48.600 --> 01:33:52.600]  No such document on file.
[01:33:52.600 --> 01:33:57.600]  They have an insurance policy that they provided with me,
[01:33:57.600 --> 01:34:03.600]  which is a government crime insurance policy and employee dishonesty policy,
[01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:10.600]  has no faithful performance clause.
[01:34:10.600 --> 01:34:12.600]  Wait, has no what clause?
[01:34:12.600 --> 01:34:14.600]  Faithful performance clause.
[01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:15.600]  Oh, okay.
[01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:16.600]  Okay.
[01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:19.600]  It has not been approved by presiding judge.
[01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:25.600]  It has not been recorded in either the county recorder's office or the county clerk's office.
[01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:30.600]  So you want to move for warrant or removal of all of them?
[01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:32.600]  Well, I was going to go to the city hall.
[01:34:32.600 --> 01:34:39.600]  I've got 180 days to file my tort letter.
[01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:42.600]  Okay, I've got 180 days.
[01:34:42.600 --> 01:34:44.600]  We're at two months right now.
[01:34:44.600 --> 01:34:47.600]  I'm building this up a little bit bigger than that.
[01:34:47.600 --> 01:34:57.600]  I have got a document coming stating no such document exists from the county recorder and the county clerk.
[01:34:57.600 --> 01:35:05.600]  This will be my evidence that they have not filed the bond properly.
[01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:09.600]  I was going to go to the city hall meeting the first of this month,
[01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:12.600]  lost my father-in-law the same night, didn't get to go.
[01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:16.600]  It's coming up the first Tuesday of the month.
[01:35:16.600 --> 01:35:21.600]  I'm going in there to the city hall.
[01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:30.600]  If they perform any function of office without having the bond with the misdemeanor...
[01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:33.600]  Oh, that's rich.
[01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:41.600]  I'm going to ask the chief of police to immediately back the gavel and call it into order.
[01:35:41.600 --> 01:35:50.600]  I'll probably stir up for the deputy city hall, but I will have my documents in hand when I do that.
[01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:52.600]  Good for you, Steve.
[01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:56.600]  Does that sound like something that would be entertaining?
[01:35:56.600 --> 01:36:00.600]  That does sound like you're having way too much fun.
[01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:03.600]  Then I'm going to file my tort letters,
[01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:09.600]  and I think I'm going to file suit on all of them personally for impersonating public officials.
[01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:12.600]  Oh, that is great.
[01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:15.600]  No immunity of any kind.
[01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:17.600]  Whatsoever.
[01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:22.600]  Our mayor's bond is oath of office.
[01:36:22.600 --> 01:36:30.600]  Oath of office is supposed to be administered by officials authorized to administer oaths.
[01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:34.600]  It is assigned by his son, who is a pastor.
[01:36:34.600 --> 01:36:38.600]  Hey, God authorized him to do it.
[01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:45.600]  I can't find anything in law that allows it to be administered by an official.
[01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:47.600]  It's messed up out here.
[01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:51.600]  Like you said, the more you dig, the more you find they're doing wrong.
[01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:59.600]  Even now, it still amazes me at how much I find when I start digging into details.
[01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:01.600]  Well, that just gives us more ammo.
[01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:06.600]  The city clerk will not return the county clerk's phone calls.
[01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:09.600]  The county clerk's calling her to find out where her bond's at,
[01:37:09.600 --> 01:37:12.600]  and she's not calling because I've got the county and the city fighting now.
[01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:14.600]  Yeah, it's like crabs in a bucket.
[01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:18.600]  They keep pulling each other down as they're trying to climb out.
[01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:21.600]  So anyway, I've got to call into,
[01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:29.600]  there's a public inquiry board through the state attorney general's office for issues like this.
[01:37:29.600 --> 01:37:34.600]  I've got to call into them, and I'm going to have them make some phone calls.
[01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:36.600]  And you might look at the grand jury.
[01:37:36.600 --> 01:37:39.600]  You have a very good grand jury system in California.
[01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:41.600]  I understand that.
[01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:42.600]  I'm new at this.
[01:37:42.600 --> 01:37:44.600]  This is my first big push,
[01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:52.600]  and I'm finding a lot of little stuff to do to irritate them.
[01:37:52.600 --> 01:37:55.600]  Like you said, they just violate everything, absolutely everything,
[01:37:55.600 --> 01:38:00.600]  and they think that their only job is to enforce the laws and not to follow them.
[01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:03.600]  Precisely.
[01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:04.600]  I'm doing a thorn in their side,
[01:38:04.600 --> 01:38:09.600]  and there's really nothing they can do to me legally because I'm right.
[01:38:09.600 --> 01:38:11.600]  Absolutely.
[01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:18.600]  The county recorder or the county clerk referred me to risk management for Deno County,
[01:38:18.600 --> 01:38:21.600]  which is San Bernardino County is a self-insuring county,
[01:38:21.600 --> 01:38:29.600]  and the department that runs all their insurance verified that I'm absolutely ahead on these laws
[01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:36.600]  and that they are in violation of them, and their bond is invalid.
[01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:38.600]  So you need to get them all straightened out.
[01:38:38.600 --> 01:38:39.600]  Wonderful.
[01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:40.600]  Good job, Steve.
[01:38:40.600 --> 01:38:43.600]  Make it a little bit of noise, and it's all because of you guys,
[01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:45.600]  and I want to thank all the 200 people who get on.
[01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:46.600]  All right, thanks, Steve.
[01:38:46.600 --> 01:38:47.600]  All right.
[01:38:47.600 --> 01:38:48.600]  Okay, good night.
[01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:51.600]  Okay, we're going to go now to Tim in Texas.
[01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:53.600]  All right, Tim, what's on your mind tonight?
[01:38:53.600 --> 01:38:54.600]  Good evening.
[01:38:54.600 --> 01:39:00.600]  Just as Steve was talking, he reminded me about when he does his pleading,
[01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:05.600]  you might want to make sure that he includes in there that they don't have sovereign immunity
[01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:07.600]  because of a lack of oath of office.
[01:39:07.600 --> 01:39:09.600]  I know, Randy, you've talked about that before,
[01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:17.600]  about making sure that's in the pleading so that the disputable issue that they can't do a summary judgment on.
[01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:18.600]  Precisely.
[01:39:18.600 --> 01:39:27.600]  That they fail to meet the requirements of office, therefore they're not covered.
[01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:32.600]  They have no official immunity because they have no official capacity.
[01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:34.600]  Yep.
[01:39:34.600 --> 01:39:35.600]  Good point.
[01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:39.600]  And the other thing I wanted to show, Eddie, I just sent you an e-mail,
[01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:42.600]  and Randy, you're going to love this, too.
[01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:52.600]  The Guy in our Study Group contacted the Secretary of State's office and got a list of the latest statement of officers,
[01:39:52.600 --> 01:39:58.600]  and he's got it from 2002 all the way through February of 2010.
[01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:06.600]  And this is basically an Excel spreadsheet that lists all the people that the Secretary of State is aware of that has filed an oath of office.
[01:40:06.600 --> 01:40:21.600]  And just to give you an example, the number of people in the list in 2005, there was 4,355 entries in the list,
[01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:27.600]  and in 2009, the full year, there was only 501 entries in the list.
[01:40:27.600 --> 01:40:33.600]  So there's a bunch of – the point I'm making out of this is from this I could reasonably presume
[01:40:33.600 --> 01:40:37.600]  that there's a whole bunch of state officials out there that don't have an oath of office.
[01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:39.600]  Is the list complete, Tim?
[01:40:39.600 --> 01:40:43.600]  Does it say everybody and then just shows a mark for those that have and those that haven't?
[01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:48.600]  It has the name, the – let me see what the heading is on here.
[01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:55.600]  The position, the city or county, the date filed, and some cases a note like that they did.
[01:40:55.600 --> 01:40:59.600]  There's an attorney pro temp that lists the case that they were filing it for.
[01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:01.600]  Can you send us a copy of that?
[01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:09.600]  Yeah, but I'm saying does it only show those for which an oath has been made?
[01:41:09.600 --> 01:41:13.600]  When the oath is made, these ones were supposed to be filed with the Secretary of State.
[01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:16.600]  This is a list of the ones that have been made.
[01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:17.600]  Right.
[01:41:17.600 --> 01:41:23.600]  Where do we get a list of all the ones that should have been filed to compare to that list for those that have?
[01:41:23.600 --> 01:41:30.600]  What we should be doing is quote warrant actions against everybody that's not in the small list.
[01:41:30.600 --> 01:41:35.600]  Maybe what we need to do is get a list of all the state officials that are required to have an oath of office
[01:41:35.600 --> 01:41:38.600]  and then subtract one from the other.
[01:41:38.600 --> 01:41:41.600]  Well, that would actually be all of them.
[01:41:41.600 --> 01:41:43.600]  Yeah.
[01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:45.600]  So anyways, I sent that off to you, Eddie.
[01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:49.600]  And Randy, I'll feed you this e-mail as well if you'd like.
[01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:54.600]  And I can get confirmation on where exactly this came from to verify.
[01:41:54.600 --> 01:42:00.600]  I think they go really well with what you're talking about on the oath of office tonight.
[01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:03.600]  We could do a mass mailing.
[01:42:03.600 --> 01:42:05.600]  Yeah, we need to get organized with that.
[01:42:05.600 --> 01:42:09.600]  Yeah, one complaint for each one of them.
[01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:12.600]  We're going to need envelope stuffers.
[01:42:12.600 --> 01:42:15.600]  I've got a machine that does the folding.
[01:42:15.600 --> 01:42:17.600]  I just don't have one to do the stuffing.
[01:42:17.600 --> 01:42:21.600]  I've got some machines that do stuffing.
[01:42:21.600 --> 01:42:24.600]  They're called my sons.
[01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:27.600]  But anyways, that's all I wanted to share with you guys.
[01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:32.600]  And, Eddie, I'll catch up with you offline later on.
[01:42:32.600 --> 01:42:33.600]  We can talk about that.
[01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:34.600]  Okay.
[01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:35.600]  Thanks, guys.
[01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:36.600]  All right, thanks, Tim.
[01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:37.600]  Bye-bye.
[01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:41.600]  Okay, we're going to go now to James in Texas.
[01:42:41.600 --> 01:42:42.600]  James, thanks for calling in.
[01:42:42.600 --> 01:42:45.600]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:46.600]  You're talking to me?
[01:42:46.600 --> 01:42:47.600]  Yes, James, go ahead.
[01:42:47.600 --> 01:42:49.600]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:54.600]  I received a letter in the mail today about my daughter,
[01:42:54.600 --> 01:43:00.600]  who has been charged with a class misdemeanor for curfew.
[01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:03.600]  She went off of campus.
[01:43:03.600 --> 01:43:05.600]  She's in high school.
[01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:08.600]  And she went off of campus during lunch.
[01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:10.600]  And I guess you get in trouble for that.
[01:43:10.600 --> 01:43:13.600]  I had no idea you weren't allowed to leave campus.
[01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:16.600]  Wait, wait, it's not a crime, though.
[01:43:16.600 --> 01:43:21.600]  And I just want to know what my, uh, I'm supposed to show up in court.
[01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:23.600]  Wait, wait, what did they charge her with?
[01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:27.600]  Uh, violation is curfew daytime.
[01:43:27.600 --> 01:43:28.600]  I don't know.
[01:43:28.600 --> 01:43:30.600]  That's a class misdemeanor.
[01:43:30.600 --> 01:43:33.600]  It's probably some kind of juvenile crime or something.
[01:43:33.600 --> 01:43:35.600]  I've never heard of such a thing.
[01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:38.600]  We don't really do juvenile stuff too much.
[01:43:38.600 --> 01:43:39.600]  Okay.
[01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:41.600]  I'd really not like to know what the crime is.
[01:43:41.600 --> 01:43:46.600]  He just said violating daytime curfew for a minor.
[01:43:46.600 --> 01:43:47.600]  Not good enough.
[01:43:47.600 --> 01:43:48.600]  I need the statute.
[01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:49.600]  Okay.
[01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:51.600]  I'm feeling dirty, Randy.
[01:43:51.600 --> 01:43:52.600]  Okay.
[01:43:52.600 --> 01:43:53.600]  We'll be right back.
[01:43:53.600 --> 01:43:54.600]  We'll be right back, James.
[01:43:54.600 --> 01:43:59.600]  Hang on the line.
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[01:44:59.600 --> 01:45:10.600]  Hello. Oh, man. Get jailed.
[01:45:10.600 --> 01:45:14.600]  You got busted, man. Oh, man, I'm broke, dude.
[01:45:20.600 --> 01:45:24.600]  Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:45:24.600 --> 01:45:29.600]  Some things I realize fully.
[01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:33.600]  Somebody's on a police, a policeman.
[01:45:33.600 --> 01:45:37.600]  Somebody's on a police, a police.
[01:45:37.600 --> 01:45:42.600]  There's always room at the top of the hill.
[01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:46.600]  I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely left too.
[01:45:46.600 --> 01:45:50.600]  They're wishing it was more than opposition to fail.
[01:45:50.600 --> 01:45:55.600]  They know that if they don't do it, somebody will.
[01:45:55.600 --> 01:45:59.600]  Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:03.600]  Some things I realize fully.
[01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:08.600]  Somebody's on a police, a policeman.
[01:46:08.600 --> 01:46:11.600]  Somebody's on a police, a police.
[01:46:11.600 --> 01:46:14.600]  I know they will.
[01:46:14.600 --> 01:46:17.600]  Yeah, they're gonna put the bill.
[01:46:17.600 --> 01:46:20.600]  Okay, we're back. We're speaking with James.
[01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:23.600]  Okay, James, does it have the statute number listed?
[01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:26.600]  And for folks out there, Randy was making some mention
[01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:28.600]  about how he had never seen curfew laws.
[01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:31.600]  I know they exist because I have seen the statute chapter
[01:46:31.600 --> 01:46:35.600]  and verse number on signs downtown in Austin.
[01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:38.600]  And no, I haven't written them down and gone and looked it up.
[01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:42.600]  But according to the signs posted downtown,
[01:46:42.600 --> 01:46:45.600]  there are curfew laws for minors.
[01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:50.600]  So, James, does it say what the statute number is on the tickets?
[01:46:50.600 --> 01:46:51.600]  No, ma'am.
[01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:52.600]  Okay.
[01:46:52.600 --> 01:46:53.600]  No, ma'am.
[01:46:53.600 --> 01:46:56.600]  I guess the calls number and then the ticket number,
[01:46:56.600 --> 01:46:58.600]  and that's all that it gives.
[01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:02.600]  I was just wondering, you know,
[01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:06.600]  so I could go in there kind of prepared to get this, you know,
[01:47:06.600 --> 01:47:08.600]  I guess taken off.
[01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:11.600]  I don't understand how they can charge it.
[01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:13.600]  Okay, I have a couple of questions.
[01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:16.600]  Who wrote the citation?
[01:47:16.600 --> 01:47:18.600]  Randy, can you speak up, please?
[01:47:18.600 --> 01:47:20.600]  I've got your channel really cranked to the max,
[01:47:20.600 --> 01:47:22.600]  but I can hardly hear you.
[01:47:22.600 --> 01:47:24.600]  Who wrote the citation?
[01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:29.600]  I guess an officer, like a school cop or whatever.
[01:47:29.600 --> 01:47:32.600]  Did the officer personally see or hear the offense being committed,
[01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:35.600]  or was he called later?
[01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:38.600]  Yeah, he personally saw it.
[01:47:38.600 --> 01:47:42.600]  They were on their way back to school from a deli or whatever.
[01:47:42.600 --> 01:47:43.600]  Oh, okay.
[01:47:43.600 --> 01:47:44.600]  Well, wait a minute.
[01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:47.600]  What, unless this is a police officer,
[01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:49.600]  if it's just a school security guard,
[01:47:49.600 --> 01:47:55.600]  I don't see what authority a private hired security guard has to write a ticket.
[01:47:55.600 --> 01:48:00.600]  No, no, I believe he's an AISD school police officer or whatever.
[01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:03.600]  So he may, if he's a legitimate police officer.
[01:48:03.600 --> 01:48:04.600]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:48:04.600 --> 01:48:09.600]  Okay, my concern was is that I've had some experience
[01:48:09.600 --> 01:48:15.600]  with the schools using criminal prosecution against students
[01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:23.600]  in order to avoid the Texas Education Agency disciplinary reporting requirements.
[01:48:23.600 --> 01:48:24.600]  Okay.
[01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:27.600]  They don't want to have to report discipline to the TEA,
[01:48:27.600 --> 01:48:29.600]  so they call in the police and have the police come in
[01:48:29.600 --> 01:48:32.600]  and write citations against the children.
[01:48:32.600 --> 01:48:34.600]  No, that's not what this is.
[01:48:34.600 --> 01:48:38.600]  This has to do with curfew, and I've seen this, I've experienced it myself.
[01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:42.600]  When I was in high school, and I know what's going on here,
[01:48:42.600 --> 01:48:48.600]  there is a transfer of custodial responsibility from the custodial guardian
[01:48:48.600 --> 01:48:52.600]  or custodial parent, whoever that may be, to the school system
[01:48:52.600 --> 01:48:57.600]  once the child is dropped off or bussed off or whatever to the school.
[01:48:57.600 --> 01:49:01.600]  And the school has a responsibility, a custodial responsibility
[01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:04.600]  over the minor at that point in time,
[01:49:04.600 --> 01:49:07.600]  and that's why they don't want to let kids leave campus
[01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:09.600]  because if anything happens to the kid,
[01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:13.600]  then the school can get the crapola sued out of them,
[01:49:13.600 --> 01:49:16.600]  and that's why they have these daytime curfew laws.
[01:49:16.600 --> 01:49:19.600]  And the only way that children, minors that are in high school
[01:49:19.600 --> 01:49:23.600]  are allowed to leave campus is generally as if they're like a senior
[01:49:23.600 --> 01:49:25.600]  or junior in high school with a driver's license
[01:49:25.600 --> 01:49:29.600]  and are on some kind of vocational program where they go to work
[01:49:29.600 --> 01:49:32.600]  in the afternoon for school credit or something like that.
[01:49:32.600 --> 01:49:36.600]  So this is not a matter of the school calling the cops
[01:49:36.600 --> 01:49:38.600]  to write a ticket to avoid discipline.
[01:49:38.600 --> 01:49:40.600]  That's not what's going on here.
[01:49:40.600 --> 01:49:42.600]  Okay, but my kids are growing up.
[01:49:42.600 --> 01:49:44.600]  Go ahead, James.
[01:49:44.600 --> 01:49:46.600]  I was just saying you helped me understand quite a bit there.
[01:49:46.600 --> 01:49:52.600]  Yeah, that's what's going on, but we need to find the exact statute.
[01:49:52.600 --> 01:49:53.600]  Okay.
[01:49:53.600 --> 01:49:57.600]  And so you may, Randy was discussing earlier some kind of a motion
[01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:03.600]  for clarification to force them to state the exact statute,
[01:50:03.600 --> 01:50:08.600]  chapter and verse of the law that they're claiming your daughter violated.
[01:50:08.600 --> 01:50:09.600]  Okay.
[01:50:09.600 --> 01:50:10.600]  What did you say?
[01:50:10.600 --> 01:50:11.600]  It was a motion for what?
[01:50:11.600 --> 01:50:12.600]  Clarification.
[01:50:12.600 --> 01:50:14.600]  Yeah, Randy, will you explain that again, please?
[01:50:14.600 --> 01:50:15.600]  No, that's all right.
[01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:18.600]  I'll look it up.
[01:50:18.600 --> 01:50:21.600]  Oh, you can go back and listen to the archive, too.
[01:50:21.600 --> 01:50:24.600]  That's true.
[01:50:24.600 --> 01:50:27.600]  Okay, Randy, that was a motion for clarification.
[01:50:27.600 --> 01:50:29.600]  Is that correct?
[01:50:29.600 --> 01:50:32.600]  Randy, I think maybe we lost Randy.
[01:50:32.600 --> 01:50:34.600]  I missed her.
[01:50:34.600 --> 01:50:36.600]  Okay, I'm going to have to go back and try.
[01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:37.600]  I'm going to have to see what's going on.
[01:50:37.600 --> 01:50:38.600]  We may have dropped Randy.
[01:50:38.600 --> 01:50:39.600]  Randy, are you there?
[01:50:39.600 --> 01:50:40.600]  I'm here.
[01:50:40.600 --> 01:50:41.600]  I missed that.
[01:50:41.600 --> 01:50:43.600]  Okay, we were talking about you were saying earlier in the show
[01:50:43.600 --> 01:50:48.600]  something, it may have been called a motion for clarification or something
[01:50:48.600 --> 01:50:54.600]  to force them to tell James and his daughter what the statute code is,
[01:50:54.600 --> 01:50:57.600]  the verse and chapter that they're claiming his daughter violated.
[01:50:57.600 --> 01:51:05.600]  You have a right to the nature and cause, and you file a motion
[01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:07.600]  to specify nature and cause.
[01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:09.600]  Motion to specify nature and cause, okay.
[01:51:09.600 --> 01:51:12.600]  Okay, nature and cause.
[01:51:12.600 --> 01:51:16.600]  Because when my kids were going to school, just about every year
[01:51:16.600 --> 01:51:19.600]  the school would decide whether or not they could go across
[01:51:19.600 --> 01:51:21.600]  this little convenience store or not.
[01:51:21.600 --> 01:51:24.600]  And one year they'd say they could, next year they'd say they couldn't.
[01:51:24.600 --> 01:51:29.600]  So if there was a statute in place, the school would not have had that option.
[01:51:29.600 --> 01:51:31.600]  Right, this is all new, Randy.
[01:51:31.600 --> 01:51:33.600]  These curfew laws are all brand new.
[01:51:33.600 --> 01:51:36.600]  This has only happened within the last few years.
[01:51:36.600 --> 01:51:37.600]  Okay.
[01:51:37.600 --> 01:51:39.600]  Okay, this is all brand new stuff.
[01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:42.600]  Now it's sometimes at the county level of county ordinances,
[01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:46.600]  and there is state statute, I know, because I've seen the chapter
[01:51:46.600 --> 01:51:49.600]  and verse on these signs listed and stuff like that.
[01:51:49.600 --> 01:51:51.600]  I just want to see what the statute says.
[01:51:51.600 --> 01:51:55.600]  Yeah, yeah, well, that's why we're telling James to file this motion
[01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:59.600]  to state the nature and cause.
[01:51:59.600 --> 01:52:02.600]  But yeah, they didn't have those kind of curfew laws when I was in school.
[01:52:02.600 --> 01:52:04.600]  You know, it's a totally different thing.
[01:52:04.600 --> 01:52:08.600]  It was more school policy, but now they've petitioned the legislature
[01:52:08.600 --> 01:52:12.600]  to actually enact law to protect them from getting sued
[01:52:12.600 --> 01:52:15.600]  because if something happens to the kids when they leave campus,
[01:52:15.600 --> 01:52:17.600]  the school is responsible.
[01:52:17.600 --> 01:52:19.600]  So that's what's going on here.
[01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:21.600]  Okay, we need to let you go, James,
[01:52:21.600 --> 01:52:23.600]  because we have some other callers to move on to.
[01:52:23.600 --> 01:52:24.600]  Thank you.
[01:52:24.600 --> 01:52:25.600]  Okay, thanks.
[01:52:25.600 --> 01:52:28.600]  Okay, we've got Mark from Michigan.
[01:52:28.600 --> 01:52:30.600]  Mark, thanks for calling in.
[01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:31.600]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:52:31.600 --> 01:52:32.600]  Hey, guys, real quick.
[01:52:32.600 --> 01:52:34.600]  I've been going over this felony stuff.
[01:52:34.600 --> 01:52:36.600]  Found some great stuff.
[01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:38.600]  Mark, are you on a speaker phone?
[01:52:38.600 --> 01:52:40.600]  No, no, I'm on my cell phone.
[01:52:40.600 --> 01:52:42.600]  It might be crappy, but that's all.
[01:52:42.600 --> 01:52:43.600]  Okay, okay, go ahead.
[01:52:43.600 --> 01:52:45.600]  Just maybe try to hold it closer to your mouth
[01:52:45.600 --> 01:52:46.600]  because it sounds real equity.
[01:52:46.600 --> 01:52:48.600]  We're having a hard time understanding you.
[01:52:48.600 --> 01:52:50.600]  Mark, are you on a Yankee phone?
[01:52:50.600 --> 01:52:51.600]  I am.
[01:52:51.600 --> 01:52:52.600]  Okay, that's much better.
[01:52:52.600 --> 01:52:53.600]  That's much better, Mark.
[01:52:53.600 --> 01:52:54.600]  Go ahead.
[01:52:54.600 --> 01:52:56.600]  Okay, a couple of things.
[01:52:56.600 --> 01:53:00.600]  I noticed that my research has turned up,
[01:53:00.600 --> 01:53:01.600]  and I told Randy this,
[01:53:01.600 --> 01:53:05.600]  that they filed a habeas corpus on my behalf,
[01:53:05.600 --> 01:53:09.600]  and the police, I'm sorry, the judge confirmed it twice,
[01:53:09.600 --> 01:53:11.600]  and the police ignored it twice.
[01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:13.600]  So that was a neat find.
[01:53:13.600 --> 01:53:17.600]  The police just decided, eh, we don't need that.
[01:53:17.600 --> 01:53:20.600]  So that was a real neat find.
[01:53:20.600 --> 01:53:23.600]  The other thing that I found was,
[01:53:23.600 --> 01:53:26.600]  and this is what I was kind of curious about,
[01:53:26.600 --> 01:53:29.600]  in the charging documents, when I looked up the statutes,
[01:53:29.600 --> 01:53:38.600]  they've got a statute which is 750.227B-A.
[01:53:38.600 --> 01:53:40.600]  Now, here's the thing.
[01:53:40.600 --> 01:53:44.600]  When I look up that statute, there is no A.
[01:53:44.600 --> 01:53:48.600]  There's a 1, but there's no A.
[01:53:48.600 --> 01:53:50.600]  Is that a fatal flaw?
[01:53:50.600 --> 01:53:52.600]  That's a fatal flaw.
[01:53:52.600 --> 01:53:53.600]  Okay.
[01:53:53.600 --> 01:53:57.600]  If they hadn't been extremely specific,
[01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:00.600]  it wouldn't be fatal, but that's very specific.
[01:54:00.600 --> 01:54:01.600]  Well, now, wait a minute.
[01:54:01.600 --> 01:54:03.600]  What statute are we talking about?
[01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:14.600]  It's a felony firearms.
[01:54:14.600 --> 01:54:16.600]  How old was this?
[01:54:16.600 --> 01:54:18.600]  About 10 years.
[01:54:18.600 --> 01:54:21.600]  You need to make sure that 10 years ago,
[01:54:21.600 --> 01:54:26.600]  that particular designation didn't exist.
[01:54:26.600 --> 01:54:27.600]  Yep, double-check that.
[01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:29.600]  It was still there.
[01:54:29.600 --> 01:54:30.600]  They got a problem.
[01:54:30.600 --> 01:54:32.600]  So this goes back a while.
[01:54:32.600 --> 01:54:34.600]  If they charge you with a non-crime,
[01:54:34.600 --> 01:54:36.600]  then it never becomes a crime.
[01:54:36.600 --> 01:54:40.600]  The other thing that I wanted to mention was Jay sent me this,
[01:54:40.600 --> 01:54:47.600]  and this was maybe helpful for your other caller earlier in the evening.
[01:54:47.600 --> 01:54:51.600]  He sent me over a case called County of Riverside versus McLaughlin,
[01:54:51.600 --> 01:55:01.600]  and the site for that is 89-1817-500-US-44-1991.
[01:55:01.600 --> 01:55:05.600]  And I just wanted to read two paragraphs out of this real quick,
[01:55:05.600 --> 01:55:11.600]  and what this case does is it goes to clarify what was laid out
[01:55:11.600 --> 01:55:16.600]  in Gerstein versus Pew, and I thought this was really neat.
[01:55:16.600 --> 01:55:19.600]  Our task in this case is to articulate more clearly the boundaries
[01:55:19.600 --> 01:55:22.600]  of what is permissible under the Fourth Amendment.
[01:55:22.600 --> 01:55:25.600]  Although we hesitate to announce that the Constitution compels a specific
[01:55:25.600 --> 01:55:29.600]  time limit, it is important to provide some degree of certainty
[01:55:29.600 --> 01:55:33.600]  so that the states and counties may establish procedures with confidence
[01:55:33.600 --> 01:55:37.600]  that they fall within the constitutional bounds.
[01:55:37.600 --> 01:55:41.600]  Taking into account the competing interests articulated in Gerstein,
[01:55:41.600 --> 01:55:46.600]  we believe that the jurisdiction that provides judicial determinations
[01:55:46.600 --> 01:55:51.600]  of probable cause within 48 hours will, as a general matter,
[01:55:51.600 --> 01:55:54.600]  comply with the promptness requirements of Gerstein.
[01:55:54.600 --> 01:55:59.600]  For this reason, such jurisdictions will be immune from systematic challenges.
[01:55:59.600 --> 01:56:06.600]  Now, what they go on to say is if you screw up and you fall outside the 48 hours,
[01:56:06.600 --> 01:56:13.600]  you better have a darn good reason, and putting together, getting documents
[01:56:13.600 --> 01:56:19.600]  and grabbing prosecutors and things of that nature does not qualify
[01:56:19.600 --> 01:56:24.600]  as good enough reason, a weekend does not qualify as good enough reason
[01:56:24.600 --> 01:56:30.600]  to not bring you before a magistrate.
[01:56:30.600 --> 01:56:37.600]  There is other case law that addresses this issue in that the 48 hour
[01:56:37.600 --> 01:56:40.600]  has been lowered to 24.
[01:56:40.600 --> 01:56:43.600]  That's why they always try to get you handled by 24.
[01:56:43.600 --> 01:56:53.600]  But the law says there shall be no set time limit.
[01:56:53.600 --> 01:56:57.600]  That an officer's only defense against an allegation of false imprisonment
[01:56:57.600 --> 01:57:03.600]  for failure to timely take is a showing and due diligent effort to locate.
[01:57:03.600 --> 01:57:08.600]  The time limit only goes to prima facie.
[01:57:08.600 --> 01:57:15.600]  If they get you before a magistrate within the 24 hours, on the face of it,
[01:57:15.600 --> 01:57:22.600]  the taking is timely, and the complaint has to show that it wasn't.
[01:57:22.600 --> 01:57:29.600]  It's not like they give them 24 hours and that if they just barely squeak it in
[01:57:29.600 --> 01:57:31.600]  under the 24 hour mark, then they're good to go.
[01:57:31.600 --> 01:57:35.600]  It's not a deadline. They have to do it immediately.
[01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:39.600]  It's just that if they do it within 24 hours, it's prima facie evidence
[01:57:39.600 --> 01:57:43.600]  that they were timely, and if it's over 24 hours,
[01:57:43.600 --> 01:57:46.600]  it's prima facie evidence that it's not.
[01:57:46.600 --> 01:57:49.600]  It's just who the onus is on.
[01:57:49.600 --> 01:57:52.600]  After 24 hours, they have to prove it up.
[01:57:52.600 --> 01:57:54.600]  Before 24 hours, you have to prove it up.
[01:57:54.600 --> 01:57:56.600]  Go ahead.
[01:57:56.600 --> 01:57:59.600]  I was just saying, they reiterate that in this case as well,
[01:57:59.600 --> 01:58:04.600]  but they're very specific on you touch this time frame, you're in trouble.
[01:58:04.600 --> 01:58:06.600]  I'll let you go and close up the show.
[01:58:06.600 --> 01:58:08.600]  Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.
[01:58:08.600 --> 01:58:10.600]  I just wanted to share that information.
[01:58:10.600 --> 01:58:12.600]  Okay. Thank you, Mark.
[01:58:12.600 --> 01:58:13.600]  All right.
[01:58:13.600 --> 01:58:14.600]  We're at the end of the show.
[01:58:14.600 --> 01:58:15.600]  Sorry, callers.
[01:58:15.600 --> 01:58:16.600]  We don't have time for any more callers.
[01:58:16.600 --> 01:58:17.600]  We're at the end of the show.
[01:58:17.600 --> 01:58:21.600]  Ken, Mary, and others, please call back in tomorrow night.
[01:58:21.600 --> 01:58:25.600]  We're also going to have Mike Maris, Michael Maris,
[01:58:25.600 --> 01:58:32.600]  of the Michael Maris Method of beating these outrageous debt collectors,
[01:58:32.600 --> 01:58:34.600]  these rogues.
[01:58:34.600 --> 01:58:41.600]  He has step-by-step method of beating them with civil rights violations, lawsuits,
[01:58:41.600 --> 01:58:43.600]  and it's very successful.
[01:58:43.600 --> 01:58:46.600]  Tomorrow night, Michael Maris, you can call in and ask him questions,
[01:58:46.600 --> 01:58:51.600]  and also callers will be taking your calls about other subjects as well.
[01:58:51.600 --> 01:58:52.600]  We'll be back tomorrow night.
[01:58:52.600 --> 01:58:57.600]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, and Deborah Stevens.
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