[00:00.000 --> 00:05.200] This news brief brought to you by the International News Net. [00:05.200 --> 00:09.800] Britain is at risk of a government deficit crisis worse than that of Greece, sparking [00:09.800 --> 00:13.080] fears over the economic stability of the country. [00:13.080 --> 00:17.940] The British pound fell last week when official figures revealed the government borrowed six [00:17.940 --> 00:20.520] billion dollars last month. [00:20.520 --> 00:27.200] Iran's police chief, General Ismail Moghadam, has accused the BBC of being an arm of MI6 [00:27.200 --> 00:31.720] and warmed a severe punishment of any Iranians contacting the broadcaster. [00:31.720 --> 00:39.760] Moghadam said, quote, the BBC is the arm of MI6 and Voice of America belongs to the CIA. [00:39.760 --> 00:43.840] In Iraq over the weekend, 10 Iraqis were killed and 20 wounded. [00:43.840 --> 00:48.920] Two U.S. helicopter pilots were killed landing at a base in northern Iraq. [00:48.920 --> 00:53.260] Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki says his country will not sell the rights to any [00:53.260 --> 00:58.240] more of its oil fields to foreign companies. [00:58.240 --> 01:03.880] The chief author of the Bush administration's, quote, torture memo, John Yoo, told Justice [01:03.880 --> 01:09.340] Department investigators the president's war-making authority was so broad he had the constitutional [01:09.340 --> 01:12.760] power to order a village to be, quote, massacred. [01:12.760 --> 01:17.400] According to a new report Friday by the Office of Professional Responsibility, Yoo's views [01:17.400 --> 01:22.360] were deemed so out of step with legal precedent they prompted the Justice Department's internal [01:22.360 --> 01:27.480] watchdog to conclude he committed, quote, intentional professional misconduct. [01:27.480 --> 01:31.360] When he advised the CIA it could waterboard al-Qaeda suspects. [01:31.360 --> 01:36.600] The OPR report concluded that Yoo, now a Berkeley law professor and his boss at the time, Jay [01:36.600 --> 01:41.840] Bybee, now a federal judge, should be referred to their state bar associations for possible [01:41.840 --> 01:43.980] disciplinary proceedings. [01:43.980 --> 01:49.000] At the core of the legal arguments were the views of Yoo, strongly backed by David Addington, [01:49.000 --> 01:54.200] the Chinese legal counsel, that the president's wartime powers included the authority to override [01:54.200 --> 02:00.600] laws passed by Congress. [02:00.600 --> 02:05.480] The FBI and the Justice Department Friday officially closed their investigation into [02:05.480 --> 02:11.520] the 2001 mailings of anthrax-contaminated letters in New York and Florida concluding [02:11.520 --> 02:17.640] that U.S. Army medical researcher Bruce Ivins was responsible for the resulting five deaths. [02:17.640 --> 02:23.720] Ivins' lawyer Paul Kemp has ridiculed the government's findings. [02:23.720 --> 02:29.680] McClatchy News reports two field commanders warned General Stanley McChrystal repeatedly [02:29.680 --> 02:34.280] about a worthless Afghanistan outpost that was too costly to defend. [02:34.280 --> 02:39.520] The field commanders are now facing penalties after two high-level military investigations. [02:39.520 --> 02:47.240] The attack on combat outpost Keating brought the worst single U.S. combat loss of 2009. [02:47.240 --> 02:52.720] Officers shot four banks from California to Florida Friday, boosting to 20 the number [02:52.720 --> 02:54.720] of bank failures this year. [02:54.720 --> 03:00.760] Top of the hour news brought to you by INN World Report. [03:00.760 --> 03:11.760] You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com, live free speech [03:11.760 --> 03:18.760] talk radio at its best. [03:41.760 --> 03:48.760] We got the one, death's the one With a vision that is second to none [03:48.760 --> 03:55.760] We got the one, yeah, death's the one Who's gonna do what they say can't be done [03:55.760 --> 04:04.760] Well, why don't you tell General Medina A true grassroots speech can't evade [04:04.760 --> 04:15.760] I'll be 20 Monday, don't protect the Republican Deborah The new sweetheart of the Lone Star [04:15.760 --> 04:16.760] State [04:16.760 --> 04:31.760] We got the power to change the way it is We got it all so that freedom can reign [04:31.760 --> 04:39.760] If we just stick together like the birds of a feather We can bring about most anything [04:39.760 --> 04:47.760] We got the one, death's the one With a vision that is second to none [04:47.760 --> 04:55.760] We got the one, yeah, death's the one Who's gonna do what they say can't be done [04:55.760 --> 05:05.760] Well, why don't you tell General Medina A true grassroots speech can't evade [05:05.760 --> 05:12.760] I'll be 20 Monday, don't protect the freedom can't evade [05:12.760 --> 05:18.760] I'll be 20 Monday, don't protect the freedom can't evade [05:18.760 --> 05:23.760] I'll be 20 Monday, don't protect the freedom can't evade [05:23.760 --> 05:25.760] Republican primaries [05:25.760 --> 05:30.760] That's my little Medina campaign for the evening [05:30.760 --> 05:34.760] Tonight is traffic night again [05:34.760 --> 05:40.760] Randy, you and Eddie have some very important points that you want to bring out [05:40.760 --> 05:46.760] Concerning how to handle situations in traffic court [05:46.760 --> 05:50.760] Bring friends and a rope [05:50.760 --> 05:57.760] Okay, a long one, actually a short one, okay, go ahead, guys [05:57.760 --> 06:03.760] Yes, I was in traffic court today watching proceedings [06:03.760 --> 06:09.760] And I was struck by something that we've been lacking [06:09.760 --> 06:13.760] And especially as long as I've been doing this, I've been lacking [06:13.760 --> 06:22.760] Because I watched what was going on and the guy was having the same problems I had when I was in front of the court [06:22.760 --> 06:28.760] You got this plan, you got it all figured out and you start walking down your plan [06:28.760 --> 06:33.760] And first thing the prosecutor does is sticks a monkey wrench in it [06:33.760 --> 06:40.760] He trips you up and it's extremely hard to get back on track [06:40.760 --> 06:45.760] And I'm trying to figure out what is wrong, what have we missed [06:45.760 --> 06:55.760] And it finally became clear what we're giving is, you know, things that you can do [06:55.760 --> 07:02.760] And when you try to do that thing, if somebody trips you up, then everything kind of gets scrambled [07:02.760 --> 07:09.760] What we need to start looking at are outcomes, are goals that you can reach [07:09.760 --> 07:17.760] What are you trying, before you start asking the witness questions [07:17.760 --> 07:20.760] The police officer in this case, do you mean, Randy? [07:20.760 --> 07:27.760] Yeah, whoever the witness has to be, if it happens to be, if it's the police officer [07:27.760 --> 07:37.760] Start, we need to, actually Eddie and I need to start developing outcomes [07:37.760 --> 07:41.760] What are you trying to achieve, before you open your mouth and ask a question [07:41.760 --> 07:45.760] What are you trying to extract from the witness [07:45.760 --> 07:56.760] In this case we're looking at the officer's authority to enforce the traffic law [07:56.760 --> 08:04.760] Instead of putting together a script or a list of questions [08:04.760 --> 08:10.760] We need to back up and say, okay, what are we trying to achieve [08:10.760 --> 08:17.760] We need to set out a set of objectives [08:17.760 --> 08:21.760] First we want to develop the authority of the police officer [08:21.760 --> 08:28.760] We want him to tell the court that he doesn't have authority to do what he's doing [08:28.760 --> 08:31.760] We want him to tell the court that he doesn't know what he's doing [08:31.760 --> 08:36.760] I don't have all these sorted out yet [08:36.760 --> 08:44.760] If we have a goal set for each point in the questioning [08:44.760 --> 08:49.760] Then if we get interrupted, when we come back we can say, okay [08:49.760 --> 08:53.760] Have I moved toward my outcome or away from my outcome [08:53.760 --> 08:57.760] And what do I have to do to get back to it [08:57.760 --> 09:03.760] Years ago I worked for a company that sold sales training [09:03.760 --> 09:09.760] And they had a planned approach rather than a canned approach [09:09.760 --> 09:14.760] And they essentially used this procedure in that [09:14.760 --> 09:20.760] The first thing they want to do is they want to get the client to tell you no [09:20.760 --> 09:24.760] And once you've got the client to tell you no [09:24.760 --> 09:30.760] Then get the client to tell you what he wants [09:30.760 --> 09:33.760] And once he tells you what he wants [09:33.760 --> 09:39.760] Then you get to tell him how you can take him to that outcome [09:39.760 --> 09:46.760] Now here we need to determine first what do you want [09:46.760 --> 09:51.760] What do we want, what do we need to put in front of the judge [09:51.760 --> 09:54.760] And then once we have that down [09:54.760 --> 09:58.760] Then how many parts of this are there that we have to establish [09:58.760 --> 10:01.760] In order to get this in front of the judge [10:01.760 --> 10:07.760] And how do we tell when we've reached each one of those outcomes [10:07.760 --> 10:09.760] Okay, you're the traffic guy [10:09.760 --> 10:14.760] Tell us how to do all this, Eddie [10:14.760 --> 10:17.760] Dead air, dead air [10:17.760 --> 10:23.760] Do you mean tell you how to do it before or after the judge decides he's going to railroad you anyway [10:23.760 --> 10:27.760] Well, that is an important point [10:27.760 --> 10:31.760] Understand when you go into the traffic court [10:31.760 --> 10:34.760] They're going to railroad you [10:34.760 --> 10:39.760] We're not there to get the judge to [10:39.760 --> 10:44.760] We're naive if we think we're going to go in there and convince this judge to our side [10:44.760 --> 10:52.760] Randy, mainly you're saying we need to keep in mind that we're in there to put a lot of stuff on the record for the appellate court [10:52.760 --> 10:54.760] Is that kind of one of the goals [10:54.760 --> 10:56.760] This is what Dr. Graves teaches [10:56.760 --> 10:58.760] We're making the record [10:58.760 --> 11:03.760] Making the record for the appeal because you're not going to win in municipal court [11:03.760 --> 11:08.760] We have to understand that we're in a corrupt system [11:08.760 --> 11:11.760] The cards are stacked against us [11:11.760 --> 11:16.760] But that just makes the fight so much more noble [11:16.760 --> 11:19.760] If it were easy, anyone would do it [11:19.760 --> 11:22.760] Okay, the judge is going to rule against you [11:22.760 --> 11:24.760] You have to kind of consider his position [11:24.760 --> 11:26.760] He works for the mayor and the council [11:26.760 --> 11:28.760] He works at their pleasure [11:28.760 --> 11:36.760] If this judge actually said, wow, gee, Willikers, you are right [11:36.760 --> 11:39.760] The traffic code does not apply to you [11:39.760 --> 11:41.760] You can go home [11:41.760 --> 11:45.760] What do you think is going to happen to this judge? [11:45.760 --> 11:50.760] He's going to be fined another employment [11:50.760 --> 11:52.760] And people are going to say, well, that's not right and that's not fair [11:52.760 --> 11:53.760] You're correct [11:53.760 --> 11:54.760] It's not right [11:54.760 --> 11:56.760] It's not fair [11:56.760 --> 12:01.760] But in the world I live in, that's how it works [12:01.760 --> 12:05.760] We are in an unfair situation [12:05.760 --> 12:10.760] We are not going to get fairness in the municipal court [12:10.760 --> 12:13.760] We're not going to get it in any court [12:13.760 --> 12:21.760] So we have to put them in a position to where they have a little alternative [12:21.760 --> 12:28.760] And the first thing we have to do is lay a foundation for an appeal to a higher court [12:28.760 --> 12:33.760] That is not invested in the traffic code [12:33.760 --> 12:41.760] The county court does not work at the pleasure of the city council or the mayor [12:41.760 --> 12:46.760] So if we establish a good case for the county court now [12:46.760 --> 12:49.760] And we set our posture [12:49.760 --> 12:53.760] What are the things we absolutely need to do? [12:53.760 --> 12:58.760] Is leave the municipal judge with the impression that we set him up [12:58.760 --> 13:04.760] So we could bargrieve him and judicial conduct complain against him and go to the city council [13:04.760 --> 13:08.760] And just make him look like he's a jerk [13:08.760 --> 13:12.760] Make him look like he's a liability to the city [13:12.760 --> 13:15.760] Sting him good [13:15.760 --> 13:25.760] And in this case, the judge gave ample opportunity to be stung good [13:25.760 --> 13:29.760] And we need to get better [13:29.760 --> 13:31.760] I don't have all the answers yet [13:31.760 --> 13:34.760] And I may be premature even bringing this up on the air [13:34.760 --> 13:40.760] But it was something fresh today that I wanted to kind of flesh out [13:40.760 --> 13:44.760] Sometimes when I talk on the air, I'm actually thinking [13:44.760 --> 13:46.760] Okay, okay [13:46.760 --> 13:48.760] I know most of you won't buy that [13:48.760 --> 13:50.760] But I really do sometimes [13:50.760 --> 13:56.760] It helps to say things out of your mouth out loud [13:56.760 --> 13:59.760] Especially when you have other people listening [13:59.760 --> 14:03.760] It forces you to be more careful in how you structure your language [14:03.760 --> 14:06.760] And thereby structure your thinking [14:06.760 --> 14:10.760] So if anybody out there has any suggestions [14:10.760 --> 14:13.760] Feel free to call in and let us know what they are [14:13.760 --> 14:16.760] If any of you have had experience in the court [14:16.760 --> 14:19.760] In the traffic courts [14:19.760 --> 14:28.760] I would especially like to know how you felt when particular things happened [14:28.760 --> 14:35.760] And what you think may have helped had you had it available [14:35.760 --> 14:46.760] So by today it was clear that it's not enough to have the law in your hand and on your side [14:46.760 --> 14:48.760] Not even the rules in some cases [14:48.760 --> 14:49.760] Exactly [14:49.760 --> 14:57.760] We need to have it in our understanding of how to wield those tools [14:57.760 --> 15:01.760] And that's what I've fallen short on in these programs [15:01.760 --> 15:04.760] And I want to get that straightened out [15:04.760 --> 15:10.760] Well, let's kind of make a laundry list of what some of the issues are that we're talking about here [15:10.760 --> 15:13.760] Okay, first thing is as Dr. Graves teaches [15:13.760 --> 15:18.760] The one thing he teaches that it's very important to do in a civil case is to control the judge [15:18.760 --> 15:21.760] You want to win your case, you have to control the judge [15:21.760 --> 15:25.760] And of course he advocates using the rules that bind the judge [15:25.760 --> 15:28.760] Well, here's the problem [15:28.760 --> 15:33.760] In municipal court, they don't believe there are any rules except the ones they wish to make [15:33.760 --> 15:35.760] That's problem number one [15:35.760 --> 15:40.760] They don't care what the law says because they're clueless [15:40.760 --> 15:46.760] Most of these people are not lawyers and the few that are lawyers think that just because they are lawyers [15:46.760 --> 15:49.760] That they're going to do what they want and get away with it [15:49.760 --> 15:53.760] And you're powerless to stop them [15:53.760 --> 15:59.760] So the first thing on controlling the judge is how are we going to do that? [15:59.760 --> 16:04.760] How do we control a judge that is uncontrollable because he's fearless in what he does? [16:04.760 --> 16:13.760] He's not accountable to anyone that's present or is going to look down on them as long as they're raking in the money [16:13.760 --> 16:16.760] So what do we do about that? [16:16.760 --> 16:28.760] The one suggestion I can actually make that might do some good is to start petitioning the mayor every time to appear in this traffic court [16:28.760 --> 16:37.760] People writing letters, people send him recordings, show him what his employees are doing to the citizens of his town [16:37.760 --> 16:42.760] And then ask him if he would like to remain mayor [16:42.760 --> 16:44.760] Okay [16:44.760 --> 16:49.760] Yeah, we'll cover this until we get back on the other side [16:49.760 --> 16:50.760] All right, we'll be right back [16:50.760 --> 16:55.760] Callers, hold off your calls for a little bit while Randy and Eddie go over this over the next segment or two [16:55.760 --> 16:59.760] We'll be right back [16:59.760 --> 17:03.760] You feel tired when talking about important topics like money and politics? [17:03.760 --> 17:07.760] Are you confused by words like the Constitution or the Federal Reserve? [17:07.760 --> 17:12.760] If so, you may be diagnosed with the deadliest disease known today, stupidity [17:12.760 --> 17:18.760] Hi, my name is Steve Holt and like millions of other Americans, I was diagnosed with stupidity at an early age [17:18.760 --> 17:24.760] I had no idea that the number one cause of the disease is found in almost every home in America, the television [17:24.760 --> 17:29.760] Unfortunately, that puts most Americans at risk of catching stupidity, but there is hope [17:29.760 --> 17:35.760] The staff at Brave New Books have helped me and thousands of other poxaholics suffering from sports zombieism recover [17:35.760 --> 17:42.760] And because of Brave New Books, I now enjoy reading and watching educational documentaries without feeling tired or uninterested [17:42.760 --> 17:49.760] So if you or anybody you know suffers from stupidity, then you need to call 512-480-2503 [17:49.760 --> 17:54.760] or visit them at 1904Guadalupe or bravenewbookstore.com [17:54.760 --> 17:59.760] Side effects from using Brave New Books products may include discernment in enlarged vocabulary and an overall increase in mental functioning [17:59.760 --> 18:26.760] Look what we got, we are the Christians, we don't have answers, we are the Christians [18:26.760 --> 18:31.760] Look what we got, we are the Christians, we don't have answers [18:31.760 --> 18:36.760] Okay, Eddie, please continue [18:36.760 --> 18:43.760] Now, the first thing you would like to do, of course, is to know your enemy, as Sun Tzu would say [18:43.760 --> 18:50.760] In order to know your enemy, you need to know what's their weakness, what's their strengths [18:50.760 --> 18:59.760] When you're dealing with an attorney sitting in a municipal court, he has weaknesses, probably ones he doesn't really fully understand [18:59.760 --> 19:09.760] And they're called bar complaints, judicial conduct complaints, and the ability to get kicked out by petitioning the mayor [19:09.760 --> 19:18.760] Those that are appointed non-attorneys think they have more leeway, but that's not necessarily true [19:18.760 --> 19:24.760] Especially if you use more or less the same process through the city council, through the mayor [19:24.760 --> 19:30.760] And you get that person a bad enough rep to get them dismissed, file a tort letter with the city, for instance [19:30.760 --> 19:35.760] Because of what they're doing in those courts and so on and so forth [19:35.760 --> 19:44.760] You start garnering points against them in that regard, and they're not going to have that job for as long as they might have hoped [19:44.760 --> 19:51.760] And hopefully they won't be able to get that job anywhere else, so they're going to have to be looking for a career change [19:51.760 --> 20:01.760] But the point is absolutely correct. If you find a judge that will actually obey the law, then you have found the needle in the haystack [20:01.760 --> 20:11.760] There's just no other way to put it. If you're looking for a judge to know and obey the law, forget it, okay? [20:11.760 --> 20:18.760] I haven't really said it to him directly, but in all this time together, that's really the one issue I've had with Randy's method [20:18.760 --> 20:23.760] We know what the law is. We use the law the way the law is written, the way it's intended to be [20:23.760 --> 20:33.760] But what good does that do when those who are required to abide by it and ensure that it's done properly ignore it or refuse it? [20:33.760 --> 20:43.760] Then what? Where does that leave us? Okay? Short of my first suggestion, bring friends in a rope [20:43.760 --> 20:45.760] That's the things we need to come up with [20:45.760 --> 20:50.760] Okay, it's always been my position that we go after them [20:50.760 --> 20:51.760] Yes [20:51.760 --> 20:57.760] And frankly, I spend most of my time setting up public officials so I can go after them [20:57.760 --> 20:58.760] Right [20:58.760 --> 21:07.760] But we need to pick up the pace, not just go into the grand jury, it's not enough [21:07.760 --> 21:15.760] It's hard to get to and it scares them, but there are a lot of other tools we can use [21:15.760 --> 21:25.760] I own judicialconduct.com and one of the things I'm trying to get set up is a website where you can go online [21:25.760 --> 21:30.760] On the website and create a judicialconduct complaint [21:30.760 --> 21:36.760] I also have bargrievance.net where you can go on and create a bar grievance [21:36.760 --> 21:39.760] I don't have them set up yet, that's what I'm trying to get done [21:39.760 --> 21:46.760] So that the grievance created on the site stays on the site and it sends you a copy [21:46.760 --> 21:52.760] You file it, it becomes secret for you but not for my site so it stays public [21:52.760 --> 22:00.760] That's one tool and bar grievances and judicialconduct complaints are powerful, powerful tools [22:00.760 --> 22:06.760] Because it hurts them, it stays on their record forever [22:06.760 --> 22:13.760] We start building them up, we'll start getting judges looking for a new career [22:13.760 --> 22:20.760] And when judges have to look out at the gallery and wonder which one of those guys are out there [22:20.760 --> 22:24.760] Trying to end his career, they'll get a lot more careful [22:24.760 --> 22:33.760] In this particular case, I observed the infractions, the actions of the judge and the prosecutor [22:33.760 --> 22:38.760] It is my duty to report those actions, so I will do so [22:38.760 --> 22:47.760] It would be better if we get more people, you know, if you have a friend that's going to court, go with him [22:47.760 --> 22:52.760] They go to adjudicate their case, you go to beat up the court [22:52.760 --> 22:58.760] When a third party with no interest starts going after the judge [22:58.760 --> 23:02.760] They're going to look around and say, what is going on here? [23:02.760 --> 23:06.760] I got people coming in here sharp shooting me [23:06.760 --> 23:11.760] We're going to get their attention, so we just have to get meaner [23:11.760 --> 23:18.760] No quarter, no slack, the judge today was very personable [23:18.760 --> 23:26.760] Had he had incentive to obey law, he would have been a very good judge [23:26.760 --> 23:31.760] And I hate to ruin his career, but life is tough [23:31.760 --> 23:34.760] We're all grown-ups, we all make decisions [23:34.760 --> 23:44.760] And it is our duty as the citizens in a republic to police the police [23:44.760 --> 23:47.760] I mean, let's do what they do [23:47.760 --> 23:55.760] It's time for us to stick together, work together and get the outcome we desire, just like they do [23:55.760 --> 24:01.760] They've now got such a cohesive network of do it this way will all benefit [24:01.760 --> 24:05.760] Why can't we do that? Why won't we do that? [24:05.760 --> 24:10.760] If we don't do that, let's see, what's the old saying, Randy? [24:10.760 --> 24:14.760] Let's see, die together or hang along [24:14.760 --> 24:18.760] We'll stand together or hang separately [24:18.760 --> 24:27.760] So without that cohesiveness among us, that's how they've gotten away with what they have for so long [24:27.760 --> 24:32.760] Because the people didn't stay a tight-knit group in touch with their neighbor, their friends [24:32.760 --> 24:37.760] Discuss what's going on, put plans into action to do something about it [24:37.760 --> 24:43.760] I mean, it's great, we have tea party movements, we have all kinds of protests [24:43.760 --> 24:47.760] How many people are still involved at the end of the day when they go home? [24:47.760 --> 24:53.760] How many people are still actively seeking to change what they saw through the course of the day? [24:53.760 --> 25:00.760] You know, that's the problem, we think that because the protest is over, the job is done, it's not [25:00.760 --> 25:06.760] We think that because the court case is over, the job is done, but it's not [25:06.760 --> 25:16.760] If we want our freedom, just like the founding fathers said, it's not free and it is an everlasting, it's a lifetime achievement [25:16.760 --> 25:19.760] It's ongoing all the time [25:19.760 --> 25:27.760] And if we don't stay diligent, we lose it and we've gotten to the point where we haven't stayed diligent, vigilant or anything else [25:27.760 --> 25:35.760] Well, I think we need to put together a more effective strategy [25:35.760 --> 25:46.760] I know what I've been proposing is not enough and I'm going to go to work on putting together a set of outcomes [25:46.760 --> 25:54.760] One thing, especially when we go into the municipal court, we have to stop expecting the court to rule in our favor [25:54.760 --> 25:59.760] We all seem to have some degree of cognitive dissonance [25:59.760 --> 26:13.760] We expect our courts to be just, even when in our mind we know they're not, in our heart we have this expectation of a fair court [26:13.760 --> 26:20.760] Because if we don't have a fair court, then we're in a police state [26:20.760 --> 26:28.760] And who wants to admit that the United States is the worst police state in the history of the world? [26:28.760 --> 26:32.760] I'm beginning to think it is pretty close to being that [26:32.760 --> 26:41.760] Considering that everybody accused of crime winds up pleading guilty or being found guilty [26:41.760 --> 26:51.760] When one country that contains 3% of the world's population houses 50% of the world's population of prisoners [26:51.760 --> 26:59.760] Guys, we're in a police state. It's time to accept it. Our courts are corrupt. It's time to accept it [26:59.760 --> 27:06.760] You're not going to get a fair hearing from a municipal court and that's all there is to that [27:06.760 --> 27:13.760] Until we start taking out municipal judges with their own rules [27:13.760 --> 27:25.760] Judicial Conduct Complaints, all of these judges who are judges in municipal courts of record must have a bar card [27:25.760 --> 27:31.760] And almost all of them still practice law or intend to still practice law [27:31.760 --> 27:39.760] So let's see if we can help them out a bit with a few well-placed bar grievances [27:39.760 --> 27:43.760] The best kind of bar grievance is from a third party [27:43.760 --> 27:49.760] A third party who doesn't have a dog in the hunt or doesn't apparently have a dog in the hunt [27:49.760 --> 27:54.760] You know, he has a dog in the hunt because he's a citizen and this is a republic [27:54.760 --> 28:00.760] But that's the limit of the dog in the hunt, so they have no way of coming back at you [28:00.760 --> 28:09.760] It's like somebody walking in the courtroom and just smacking the judge upside the head and walking out with impunity [28:09.760 --> 28:12.760] Because there's nothing the judge can do or say [28:12.760 --> 28:17.760] We need to start piling on the Judicial Conduct Complaints [28:17.760 --> 28:24.760] And I will set that as a goal to have a site up within two weeks [28:24.760 --> 28:31.760] If I can get Eddie Craig to do all the programming for me, not shit [28:31.760 --> 28:37.760] I'll have it up if I can get somebody else to do all of the work, I absolutely certainly will [28:37.760 --> 28:42.760] I really need to get that site up soon, the one for bar grievances up soon [28:42.760 --> 28:47.760] We need to start going after these guys [28:47.760 --> 28:49.760] We've got to take the gloves off [28:49.760 --> 28:59.760] I think that once the individual realizes how powerful he is before the court [28:59.760 --> 29:06.760] And not powerful in getting in the judge's face and letting them know how the cow ate the cabbage [29:06.760 --> 29:15.760] We're not so powerful that way as we are sniping at them in the background [29:15.760 --> 29:20.760] One of the good things about bar grievances and Judicial Conduct Complaints [29:20.760 --> 29:24.760] When you file them they become secret [29:24.760 --> 29:30.760] The attorney, if you file a bar grievance, is forbidden to mention it [29:30.760 --> 29:36.760] The court can't mention it and they absolutely better not mention it to you [29:36.760 --> 29:38.760] That would get another one [29:38.760 --> 29:42.760] So they're stuck getting beat up and they can't defend themselves [29:42.760 --> 29:44.760] Great position to have them in [29:44.760 --> 29:46.760] Okay [29:46.760 --> 29:50.760] Alright, good deal, we'll be right back folks [29:50.760 --> 30:19.760] If y'all would like to start calling in 512-646-1984 [30:20.760 --> 30:24.760] What to do when contacted by phone, mail, or court summons [30:24.760 --> 30:26.760] How to answer letters and phone calls [30:26.760 --> 30:28.760] How to get debt collectors out of your credit report [30:28.760 --> 30:33.760] How to turn your financial tables on them and make them pay you to go away [30:33.760 --> 30:38.760] The Michael Mears proven method is the solution for how to stop debt collectors [30:38.760 --> 30:40.760] Personal consultation is available as well [30:40.760 --> 30:46.760] For more information please visit ruleoflawradio.com and click on the blue Michael Mears banner [30:46.760 --> 30:49.760] Or email michaelmears at yahoo.com [30:49.760 --> 30:59.760] To learn how to stop debt collectors now [30:59.760 --> 31:22.760] Yeah, I got a warrant and I'm gonna solve them to the government them, prosecute them [31:22.760 --> 31:32.760] Well I need a prosecutor to come and help me [31:32.760 --> 31:34.760] Prosecute them wicked leaders, you see [31:34.760 --> 31:37.760] Them murderers are liars, them tell me [31:37.760 --> 31:39.760] Them are liars, they tell sweet stories [31:39.760 --> 31:41.760] Me not believe me, say what them tell me [31:41.760 --> 31:44.760] 3% of America vote for Bush [31:44.760 --> 31:46.760] So how the hell he get the presidency [31:46.760 --> 31:49.760] That's why me have a warrant for him [31:49.760 --> 31:51.760] Everybody listen carefully [31:51.760 --> 31:53.760] Listen to the words of the officials passing [31:53.760 --> 31:57.760] Citizens arrest from Mr. Bush [31:57.760 --> 32:02.760] For more warrant on the chain [32:02.760 --> 32:07.760] Citizens arrest Mr. Bush [32:07.760 --> 32:12.760] For more warrant and more on the chain [32:12.760 --> 32:15.760] Well we know from the bombs field, warrants pushing [32:15.760 --> 32:17.760] All the cheney warrants pushing [32:17.760 --> 32:20.760] Right above the citizens in the country [32:20.760 --> 32:22.760] Them getting so mad and them getting angry [32:22.760 --> 32:25.760] We have some warrants we need to solve [32:25.760 --> 32:27.760] Need a prosecutor to come and help me [32:27.760 --> 32:30.760] Prosecutor from any state will do [32:30.760 --> 32:32.760] Come over and let me show them too [32:32.760 --> 32:34.760] Hear them tell you what me tell you [32:34.760 --> 32:37.760] 3 issues, that is strictly true, that is true [32:37.760 --> 32:41.760] Okay, we're gonna take your calls now [32:41.760 --> 32:44.760] We're gonna go to Russell in Texas [32:44.760 --> 32:47.760] Hey Russell, thanks for calling in, what's on your mind tonight? [32:47.760 --> 32:48.760] Hey, how you doing? [32:48.760 --> 32:49.760] Pretty good [32:49.760 --> 32:52.760] Well I think if I had a problem with tickets [32:52.760 --> 32:55.760] I think the first thing I would do would be [32:55.760 --> 32:59.760] Sue the person and possibly the mayor if it's municipal [32:59.760 --> 33:03.760] Under what they call the stripping doctrine that I learned about [33:03.760 --> 33:07.760] Google stripping doctrine, you'll find out it takes their immunity away [33:07.760 --> 33:11.760] And you sue them on an individual basis [33:11.760 --> 33:16.760] Because they violated the constitution, their oath, whatever [33:16.760 --> 33:19.760] I'm personally trying it in federal court now over my court cases [33:19.760 --> 33:21.760] We'll see how that goes [33:21.760 --> 33:26.760] But that way if you do that a time or two [33:26.760 --> 33:32.760] I bet you'll never get another ticket in that jurisdiction again [33:32.760 --> 33:34.760] Even if you don't win it [33:34.760 --> 33:38.760] You'll cause them such headache and such expense [33:38.760 --> 33:43.760] That they will never give you another ticket [33:43.760 --> 33:46.760] I tend to agree and that's why I'm thinking [33:46.760 --> 33:49.760] We start going after these guys [33:49.760 --> 33:52.760] They're not gonna like us coming after them [33:52.760 --> 33:55.760] And they're certainly not accustomed to it [33:55.760 --> 33:58.760] We start taking out a few judges [33:58.760 --> 34:01.760] All the other judges will get the message [34:01.760 --> 34:03.760] Because they all talk about what goes on [34:03.760 --> 34:06.760] Most of these people have never been challenged [34:06.760 --> 34:09.760] And if you challenge them whether it's being state court or federal court [34:09.760 --> 34:12.760] Myself I would rather be in federal court [34:12.760 --> 34:15.760] Only the state judges will protect them [34:15.760 --> 34:20.760] To me you most likely will not get the protection from the federal judges [34:20.760 --> 34:23.760] Like Austin or whoever [34:23.760 --> 34:25.760] But even if you don't win [34:25.760 --> 34:28.760] You're gonna cause enough hassle to where they'll just [34:28.760 --> 34:30.760] They'll put you a little name on the list [34:30.760 --> 34:32.760] Saying don't mess with this person [34:32.760 --> 34:35.760] Because they know they're not gonna get a couple hundred dollars out of you [34:35.760 --> 34:41.760] And they're gonna get about $4,000 worth of nightmare [34:41.760 --> 34:43.760] If not more [34:43.760 --> 34:47.760] That's what I experienced in the county I live in [34:47.760 --> 34:50.760] The sheriff had strict orders [34:50.760 --> 34:53.760] That his deputies were not to stop me [34:53.760 --> 34:56.760] They were not to cite me [34:56.760 --> 35:01.760] And whatever you do don't put that SOB in my jail [35:01.760 --> 35:03.760] Because I've been there [35:03.760 --> 35:08.760] And when I got done with them they didn't want anything to do with me again [35:08.760 --> 35:10.760] This is how we'll beat them [35:10.760 --> 35:14.760] I don't think it'll take too often many to get it done [35:14.760 --> 35:16.760] As a matter of fact Randy [35:16.760 --> 35:18.760] I got thinking about that this afternoon after we talked [35:18.760 --> 35:22.760] You know since the Supreme Court denied my certiorari [35:22.760 --> 35:29.760] I'm not too sure if I had to figure out how to take the Supreme Court justices on a stripping doctrine [35:29.760 --> 35:33.760] Because I mean by that they got case law establishing the right [35:33.760 --> 35:36.760] The Sixth Amendment right to counsel and that's what happened [35:36.760 --> 35:41.760] In my case the get-thing-turn-around denied my certiorari [35:41.760 --> 35:44.760] Wouldn't even look at it [35:44.760 --> 35:48.760] That mind boggled me [35:48.760 --> 35:57.760] Yeah when the law was very clear and they had promulgated it themselves not long before [35:57.760 --> 36:04.760] So we now have case law in Russell v. State of Texas [36:04.760 --> 36:12.760] That says the police and the courts can do anything they want to before indictment [36:12.760 --> 36:15.760] They can arrest you beat you up hang you by your fingernails [36:15.760 --> 36:19.760] Violate any due process right it makes no difference [36:19.760 --> 36:24.760] But when an indictment is brought everything starts over again [36:24.760 --> 36:28.760] And they forget about all the bad things [36:28.760 --> 36:34.760] That's now in the case law in Texas [36:34.760 --> 36:39.760] I actually found the case I was looking for something else and I come across this case [36:39.760 --> 36:47.760] And I started reading it and from reading the opinion I was thinking this guy didn't ask the right question [36:47.760 --> 36:55.760] But he was close because he's right on the things that I've been going after and then I looked up and read the name [36:55.760 --> 37:01.760] Russell Mortland v. State of Texas [37:01.760 --> 37:08.760] I said wait a minute that guy wrote the right questions because I help write those questions [37:08.760 --> 37:12.760] But they rewrite the opinions to address the issues they want to address [37:12.760 --> 37:17.760] And issues they don't want to address they just ignore them [37:17.760 --> 37:26.760] Well I was still getting ready to file my petition for rehearing this week but you know they're not going to hear it [37:26.760 --> 37:27.760] I'm sure they're not [37:27.760 --> 37:33.760] It would be the same thing as admitting they were wrong in the first place [37:33.760 --> 37:41.760] And I picked apart rule I think it was 45 because they sent me a letter saying that you got to do it by this rule 45 [37:41.760 --> 37:47.760] So I got my petition for rehearing verbatim to rule 45 [37:47.760 --> 37:55.760] So you know if they don't do the rehearing then we know if there's a fix is in [37:55.760 --> 38:01.760] But you know anyone cracked me up is when I said something to the prosecutor in December when I was down there in Hays County [38:01.760 --> 38:05.760] I said well aren't you going to wish me luck on my river certiorari? [38:05.760 --> 38:10.760] He looked at me and laughed he goes you don't have a snowball hell in chance [38:10.760 --> 38:20.760] Now here I got three different cases dating all the way from 85, 77 to 2008 that back up my certiorari [38:20.760 --> 38:28.760] And they turned around and sent it to conference on the 22nd of January and the conference however that works which I don't know [38:28.760 --> 38:38.760] They turned it down and then Scalia I think it was Scalia turned around signed a denial on the 25th of January [38:38.760 --> 38:48.760] So evidently they put these cases before like a committee and the committee goes and argues back and forth [38:48.760 --> 38:54.760] Whether they should be sent to the actual judges or not which to me is a defective process [38:54.760 --> 39:02.760] I mean basically your court clerks and your lower attorneys and stuff are just deciding the cases [39:02.760 --> 39:12.760] We need another court between the appeals court and the supreme [39:12.760 --> 39:17.760] No we need less courts we need less courts [39:17.760 --> 39:23.760] If we have less courts then issues simply go unadjudicated just like now [39:23.760 --> 39:28.760] No we just don't let lawyers be in those courts [39:28.760 --> 39:33.760] We let somebody with common sense and an actual moral fiber be in those courts [39:33.760 --> 39:35.760] Where do we find that in government? [39:35.760 --> 39:38.760] Well I didn't say they would be government did I? [39:38.760 --> 39:42.760] Well they'll have to be because this is government you can't make government not government [39:42.760 --> 39:46.760] The courts are government you can't ungovernment them [39:46.760 --> 39:51.760] And the people who wind up in there will all wind up just as corrupt it's not the people [39:51.760 --> 39:59.760] Was the court that George Washington held on his front lawn with the guy poaching on his property a government court? [39:59.760 --> 40:03.760] We can't go there [40:03.760 --> 40:11.760] Were the Ku Klux Klan men who were hanging people at their caprice the government court do we want to go there? [40:11.760 --> 40:14.760] It didn't say nothing about hanging at their caprice [40:14.760 --> 40:22.760] He rounded up all of his neighbors they held a trial and a court on the front lawn introduced the evidence talked to the witnesses [40:22.760 --> 40:25.760] The whole nine yards found the guy guilty and hung him [40:25.760 --> 40:28.760] That's what the Klansmen claimed to do [40:28.760 --> 40:31.760] Well it wouldn't be a claim that's what we would do [40:31.760 --> 40:35.760] That's what Sam Kennedy and his followers are trying to do right now [40:35.760 --> 40:45.760] And you know that was tried about you know 15 years ago or so by a bunch of people and stuff and every one of them people went to jail [40:45.760 --> 40:50.760] We gotta fight this battle in a way that we can actually fight it and not [40:50.760 --> 40:56.760] I'm talking about yeah well I'm talking about after we've got control of it back set it up that way [40:56.760 --> 41:02.760] I'm not talking just run out and start doing it I'm talking about this time plan how we set it up [41:02.760 --> 41:05.760] And not let it get this way again [41:05.760 --> 41:10.760] Eddie I've got a question for you me and Randy were talking today and we were asked I asked Randy [41:10.760 --> 41:18.760] I said if you go to the state library Texas state library website [41:18.760 --> 41:23.760] They have a list in there from A to Z of the Texas state agencies [41:23.760 --> 41:33.760] And every court state court the appeals court the Supreme Court the court of criminal appeals the office of administrative courts [41:33.760 --> 41:39.760] All that is listed as a Texas agency [41:39.760 --> 41:46.760] Now as an agency do they fall under the Texas administrative code [41:46.760 --> 41:50.760] The administrative procedures act or the administrative code [41:50.760 --> 41:55.760] Well one or the other or both [41:55.760 --> 42:01.760] They do not fall under the administrative procedures act as far as having jurisdiction to hear an administrative proceeding [42:01.760 --> 42:05.760] That's very clear in the act itself [42:05.760 --> 42:10.760] I actually have not looked through the administrative code for anything dealing with the judiciary to be quite honest [42:10.760 --> 42:16.760] I have focused on the Department of Transportation and Department of Public Safety [42:16.760 --> 42:21.760] So I don't have a pat answer for that but it shouldn't be hard to do if you look at the front page [42:21.760 --> 42:27.760] It'll tell you every agency that the administrative code has a section for [42:27.760 --> 42:33.760] Okay that's what I wanted to do because I was going to if I found evidence for that [42:33.760 --> 42:39.760] I was going to also put that in my petition for rehearing to the Supreme Court [42:39.760 --> 42:50.760] But I mean I was surprised at some of the I mean practically everything you can think of is listed from A to Z as a Texas agency [42:50.760 --> 42:57.760] The lower Colorado River Authority is not but the upper Colorado River Authority is [42:57.760 --> 43:02.760] And I'm going what I didn't know there was a big difference between that [43:02.760 --> 43:08.760] But I mean and all your other river authorities are considered an agency of the state of Texas [43:08.760 --> 43:12.760] Okay well I do have some good news along that regard [43:12.760 --> 43:17.760] The governor is an agency of the state of Texas [43:17.760 --> 43:21.760] I thought that was kind of amazing myself [43:21.760 --> 43:25.760] I mean we got a governor that's in that office correct? [43:25.760 --> 43:30.760] They say the office of the governor is a Texas state agency [43:30.760 --> 43:38.760] Okay hold on we're going to break you want to stay on the line Russell? Yeah. Okay great [43:38.760 --> 43:42.760] We've got some other callers we've got Ken, Scott, and Guy [43:42.760 --> 44:00.760] Y'all are next we'll be right back [44:12.760 --> 44:15.760] I just have tract and stomach wall so you can absorb nutrients [44:15.760 --> 44:24.760] Micro plant powder is 89% silica and packed with a negative charge that attracts positive toxins from the blood, organs, spine, and brain [44:24.760 --> 44:30.760] This product has the ability to rebuild cartilage and bone which allows synovial fluid to return to the joints [44:30.760 --> 44:36.760] Silica is a precursor to calcium meaning the body turns silica into calcium and is great for the heart [44:36.760 --> 44:42.760] There is no better time than now to have micro plant powder on your shelf or in your storage shelter [44:42.760 --> 44:45.760] And with an unlimited shelf life you can store it anywhere [44:45.760 --> 44:50.760] Call 908-691-2608 or visit hempusa.org [44:50.760 --> 44:52.760] It's a great way to change your life [44:52.760 --> 45:12.760] So call 908-691-2608 or visit us at hempusa.org today [45:12.760 --> 45:29.760] Okay we're speaking with our callers right now [45:29.760 --> 45:32.760] Alright go ahead Russell [45:32.760 --> 45:43.760] I just wanted to pick a hit of your brain about agencies and see if there's something I can find out about the administrative procedures code [45:43.760 --> 45:54.760] The Administrative Procedures Act and Government Code 2001 makes it very clear that for the purposes of hearing a contested case involving a state agency [45:54.760 --> 46:01.760] the courts are specifically excluded as a state agency [46:01.760 --> 46:06.760] That's right up in the very first part of the act [46:06.760 --> 46:10.760] But as far as the actual administrative code itself that's a good question [46:10.760 --> 46:13.760] But as I was going to say we may have some good news [46:13.760 --> 46:27.760] I've had a guy looking to see if he could find the actual 1925 statutes for Texas including the original version of the administrative code [46:27.760 --> 46:35.760] It may be that he has had luck and that they are available electronically for us to get our hands on [46:35.760 --> 46:44.760] I haven't got to check the links that he's sent me so far because I have spent so much time this week helping with some court cases for some folks [46:44.760 --> 46:55.760] But once I get into those and dig around we may have something real interesting to be talking about over the next few shows [46:55.760 --> 47:08.760] Because once we actually show the 1925 statutes are still the actual good law and that the actual revised statutes that they've got on top of it is not good law [47:08.760 --> 47:24.760] Well I got the 1936 Texas statutes in a book that's about 5-6 inches thick and when you open it up it's still got the Texas Secretary of State's authentication page to it [47:24.760 --> 47:29.760] That's right and it says the statutes are the laws of 1925 doesn't it? [47:29.760 --> 47:33.760] No, I mean I'll have to look through it and find out [47:33.760 --> 47:41.760] I've got the scent that I got from our listener Randy Raylor that I bought when I was in Austin and these are from 1977 [47:41.760 --> 47:55.760] And right inside the front cover it's got the Secretary of State's authentication and certification page and it certifies that these statutes are an exact copy of the 1925 law [47:55.760 --> 47:56.760] Right [47:56.760 --> 48:07.760] Now that was in 1977. They haven't changed the underlying law. We know they have changed the statutes [48:07.760 --> 48:17.760] How are they certifying that the new versions of the statutes are exact copies of the 1925 law? [48:17.760 --> 48:23.760] I don't know. Since you brought this up I'm definitely going to pull that book out and look at it some more [48:23.760 --> 48:38.760] Because I found it on eBay for like $20 or $25 one day and I thought well that might be something that might tell me some stuff about the historic state of Texas and to my surprise it had more in it than I thought it was going to [48:38.760 --> 48:54.760] I definitely want to get a chance to go through these links and find what I can because I know those 1925 laws are going to be a real big key on the key ring for what we need [48:54.760 --> 49:07.760] And while we're talking about all this I still want to put the challenge out to the listeners out there in Texas that would know how to do this or know somebody who might know how to do this [49:07.760 --> 49:18.760] We need to get a people's committee and we need to get in front of the legislature and ask them just exactly what it is they think they're doing [49:18.760 --> 49:29.760] And then how they're going to go through this and put it right for the people of Texas. We want to get on the floor and address these people directly for the things they're trying to do [49:29.760 --> 49:47.760] And let me explain why I say that. The new version of the transportation code dealing with the penalty is called HB 2010. HB 2010 now takes driving without a license to a Class B misdemeanor [49:47.760 --> 50:00.760] It now takes having no insurance and being the call of the person that causes or is either the cause of or the leading cause of someone else's accident [50:00.760 --> 50:06.760] If you don't have insurance you now get charged with third degree felony [50:06.760 --> 50:20.760] Well the insurance part is really easily fixable if people know how to take a simple two-page document and file it in their county record and declare themselves as a party [50:20.760 --> 50:31.760] How would you say that? Their liability to and file it into the county record. That covers every bit of that [50:31.760 --> 50:35.760] And that covers any vehicle you'll be driving, anything [50:35.760 --> 50:38.760] Wait a minute, you weren't real clear. Can you say that again? [50:38.760 --> 50:49.760] Well there's a person I know in Colorado that filed a simple two-page document into the Colorado where he lived and the county he lived in [50:49.760 --> 50:57.760] And that document declared two or three things under the law and that is the same as insurance [50:57.760 --> 51:05.760] You don't have to worry about it. You can have 50 vehicles and it's going to cover you no matter what. You not worthy of the vehicle. Right now if you buy insurance [51:05.760 --> 51:08.760] The main thing that they want to do is cover each and every vehicle [51:08.760 --> 51:18.760] What you're doing is making a blanket insurance policy based on HGR 192 and those things and you file it into the county record and they have to accept it [51:18.760 --> 51:28.760] Because under the insurance code there's something about putting a bond up or declaring your, what would you want to say? [51:28.760 --> 51:33.760] I wouldn't say liability but in other words declaring your responsibility [51:33.760 --> 51:41.760] And you file that in your county record, it's good no matter what. No matter what vehicle you're driving or anything [51:41.760 --> 51:46.760] If anybody out there is familiar with that I would certainly like to know more about it [51:46.760 --> 51:49.760] Well I can send you that document. I got that document [51:49.760 --> 51:50.760] Oh okay good [51:50.760 --> 51:52.760] Yeah send it to me as well will you please Russ? [51:52.760 --> 51:55.760] It's called the insurance bond or vehicle bond, either one [51:55.760 --> 52:04.760] And it's good forever. It's none of this one year notice thing or you know whether you're going to pay $3,000 a year for five vehicles or anything [52:04.760 --> 52:07.760] It's good for anything [52:07.760 --> 52:14.760] And then they can't do nothing to you when it comes to the insurance because you're basically saying that I'm financially responsible [52:14.760 --> 52:20.760] And these are the reasons why and you file it kind of like an affidavit you file in the county record [52:20.760 --> 52:24.760] It's a simple two page affidavit and a notary will notary [52:24.760 --> 52:26.760] So that's a form of self insurance [52:26.760 --> 52:27.760] Right [52:27.760 --> 52:32.760] So you place your property as security [52:32.760 --> 52:38.760] Well you're actually placing what some people call your straw man as the security [52:38.760 --> 52:42.760] Not your physical property or whatever [52:42.760 --> 52:50.760] Because the government setting you up as the corporation and the money that they make from you the whole nine yards [52:50.760 --> 52:53.760] You declare that as your financial responsibility [52:53.760 --> 53:03.760] And it was actually you know tested in Colorado court and they threw out the insurance tickets [53:03.760 --> 53:07.760] And I've heard it's been used in other places [53:07.760 --> 53:13.760] But that was growing around one of the Yahoo groups I belong to about two weeks ago [53:13.760 --> 53:19.760] And the only thing I said was I take the reference to HDR192 out and actually refer to the law [53:19.760 --> 53:26.760] Because I forgot what I think it's 48 STAT whatever in the code I can't remember the terminology of it [53:26.760 --> 53:30.760] Because that's the verbatim of what HDR192 was [53:30.760 --> 53:36.760] You actually need to show the actual wall not HDR192 public policy [53:36.760 --> 53:38.760] That's the only part of it I would change [53:38.760 --> 53:45.760] The rest of it is just basically making yourself financially responsible [53:45.760 --> 53:48.760] Well we sure want to look into that [53:48.760 --> 53:52.760] And then nobody could ever give you a ticket I mean they give you tickets [53:52.760 --> 53:54.760] Even a cop pulls you over and you show him that [53:54.760 --> 53:59.760] He gives you a ticket and stuff it's going to have to be dismissed because it's 100% legal [53:59.760 --> 54:03.760] Because everywhere in their insurance code and stuff it says if you want to self insure [54:03.760 --> 54:06.760] Put your own bond up or however you want to do it [54:06.760 --> 54:08.760] You have the right to do that [54:08.760 --> 54:13.760] You don't have to carry their commercial insurance [54:13.760 --> 54:15.760] Interesting [54:15.760 --> 54:17.760] I'll fire them I'll see you in a few minutes Randy [54:17.760 --> 54:19.760] Okay good [54:19.760 --> 54:20.760] Do you have anything else? [54:20.760 --> 54:21.760] That's it [54:21.760 --> 54:22.760] Thank you [54:22.760 --> 54:23.760] Bye [54:23.760 --> 54:25.760] Okay thank you Russell [54:25.760 --> 54:30.760] Okay we are going to go now to Ken in Texas [54:30.760 --> 54:32.760] Ken thanks for calling in what's on your mind? [54:32.760 --> 54:37.760] Hi there thanks everybody you guys are sounding great tonight [54:37.760 --> 54:45.760] I just wanted to kind of jump into Randy's idea about having a strategy [54:45.760 --> 54:49.760] Because I think that is probably the most important thing [54:49.760 --> 54:56.760] Because what a strategy is it's a plan it's a well thought out path [54:56.760 --> 55:01.760] Not necessarily in great detail but you have a goal [55:01.760 --> 55:07.760] And the great news is you don't really have to come up with your own strategy [55:07.760 --> 55:14.760] And one of the things that I have tried to learn I try to learn this all the time [55:14.760 --> 55:18.760] Is whenever faced with a problem don't think that you're just the island out there [55:18.760 --> 55:21.760] And you've never encountered this problem before [55:21.760 --> 55:32.760] Chances are other people in other situations, businesses, countries, centuries [55:32.760 --> 55:34.760] They've encountered the same problem [55:34.760 --> 55:40.760] Okay if you give yourself that liberty how did they solve it? [55:40.760 --> 55:44.760] And with some research you can frequently find problems [55:44.760 --> 55:49.760] That have really been very eloquently and effectively solved before [55:49.760 --> 55:52.760] And I encourage everybody to go down that road [55:52.760 --> 55:57.760] And I think we'll come up with some very good strategy [55:57.760 --> 56:02.760] Now that being said I want to tell you about a strategy that I know personally that works [56:02.760 --> 56:07.760] And a strategy that every one of you can use [56:07.760 --> 56:17.760] A number of years ago when I was a young man I was going to a very prominent school [56:17.760 --> 56:22.760] And it doesn't really matter the school district I'll tell you later if you ask me about it [56:22.760 --> 56:30.760] But believe it or not in this wealthy town the school district was corrupt [56:30.760 --> 56:39.760] Okay so anyway my mother knew and heard the stories that the principal was directing the teachers [56:39.760 --> 56:42.760] On how to vote for the school bonds [56:42.760 --> 56:45.760] And essentially if the teachers didn't vote the right way [56:45.760 --> 56:49.760] You know they'd get reprimanded or maybe fired [56:49.760 --> 56:53.760] And you know okay that's irritating to everybody [56:53.760 --> 57:02.760] Now I want to tell you sometimes you can just mess with the wrong person [57:02.760 --> 57:08.760] And what happened was this school principal messed with the wrong person [57:08.760 --> 57:13.760] And the person they messed with was my mother's son, me [57:13.760 --> 57:18.760] And what this school district had done wasn't necessarily a heinous crime [57:18.760 --> 57:21.760] They treated me kind of like they treated all the other young men [57:21.760 --> 57:25.760] But they were very sharp with their policies [57:25.760 --> 57:31.760] They were very eager to come heavy handed with discipline [57:31.760 --> 57:34.760] And it was really unfair [57:34.760 --> 57:39.760] For example if I came in late two or three times they kicked me out for a week [57:39.760 --> 57:45.760] Alright and there were many many other problems to numerous dimension [57:45.760 --> 57:48.760] Some of it was my fault, some of it wasn't [57:48.760 --> 57:54.760] But the point is sometimes these guys bite off more than they can chew [57:54.760 --> 57:56.760] And so here's what happened [57:56.760 --> 58:05.760] They did not know that the mother of this person that they were messing with was a [58:05.760 --> 58:07.760] You call them a paralegal [58:07.760 --> 58:11.760] You're the legal secretary for the top Dallas law firm [58:11.760 --> 58:15.760] And I hear the music now but I'll tell you so you listen after the break [58:15.760 --> 58:19.760] They really stepped in it [58:19.760 --> 58:22.760] Okay we're not going to ask what they stepped in [58:22.760 --> 58:25.760] Okay may not want to say that on the air [58:25.760 --> 58:29.760] Okay Ken hang on the line and we'll finish this story when we get back [58:29.760 --> 58:34.760] Also we've got Scott from West Virginia, Guy from Arkansas, y'all are up next [58:34.760 --> 58:38.760] So hang on the line we're going to the top of the hour break here [58:38.760 --> 58:42.760] IN World Report radio, IN World Report news [58:42.760 --> 58:48.760] Callers if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984 [58:48.760 --> 59:04.760] We will be right back [59:18.760 --> 59:25.760] I'm going to call in 512-646-1984 [59:25.760 --> 59:52.760] IN World Report [59:52.760 --> 01:00:03.760] This news brief brought to you by the International News Net [01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:09.760] In Iraq rates of leukemia in children around Basra have tripled in the last 15 years [01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:18.760] The American Journal of Public Health documented 700 cases of leukemia among children under 15 between 1992 and 2007 [01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:30.760] Researchers speculated increased exposure to byproducts of petroleum fires and benzene, war-related nerve agents, pesticides 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its best [01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:35.760] Republicans and Republican Knights, here's what we're talking about [01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:43.760] Texas and this country need new leadership fast, and of that, there's no room for doubt [01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:51.760] We got the one, that's the one, with a vision that's exactly to none [01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:59.760] We got the one, yeah, just the one, who's gonna do what they say can't be done [01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:07.760] Well, we're talking about Debra Medina, a true grassroots speech candidate [01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:24.760] Out between Monday, double check, the Republican Debra, the new sweetheart of the Lone Star State [01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:31.760] We got the power to change the way it is, to shut it all, so that freedom can ring [01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:39.760] And if we just stick together like the birds of a feather, we can bring about more than a thing [01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:47.760] We got the one, that's the one, with a vision that is exactly to none [01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:55.760] We got the one, yeah, just the one, who's gonna do what they say can't be done [01:04:55.760 --> 01:05:03.760] Well, we're talking about Debra Medina, a true grassroots speech candidate [01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:16.760] Out between Monday, double check, the Republican Debra, the new sweetheart of the Lone Star State [01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:25.760] So much to do with such a short time to do it, Daisy Crockett's words really get brought down to you [01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:31.760] Be sure you write, and then just go ahead [01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:36.760] We got the one, Debra Medina running for governor, folks [01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:42.760] Don't forget to go and vote in the Republican primary tomorrow if you haven't already [01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:49.760] So we can get Rick Perry out of here and get somebody in office finally that's gonna do something about [01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:53.760] this outrageous property tax situation in Texas [01:05:53.760 --> 01:06:04.760] And she also is into nullification, state nullification of federal laws that are overreaching [01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:09.760] If we get her in office, we'll likely be able to get my legislation passed [01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:14.760] That is going through the Oklahoma legislature right now, the Freedoms Communications Act [01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:21.760] In fact, Randy and I have a very important conference call with one of the biggest opposers of this bill [01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:27.760] On Wednesday, folks, we have a chance to make history, me and Randy and Chris Emery [01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:32.760] We're gonna talk to this legislator in Oklahoma who owns an FM radio station [01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:39.760] And he is on the side of the evil association of broadcasters [01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:46.760] And we have a chance to possibly sway his opinion maybe by basically pointing out that this document [01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:51.760] If you listen to Chris Emery's show from last week, he had Randy and I on [01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:57.760] And we discussed how these lawyers in D.C. just made this stuff up [01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:01.760] They cited cases and they just made up quotes out of thin air to support their side [01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:05.760] So we're gonna point some of these things out and some other issues [01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:11.760] That, you know, we have no intention of having this, if this law goes into effect [01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:17.760] That interfering with licensed stations, that's not the intention [01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:25.760] The intention is not for the state to protect unlicensed intrastate broadcasts [01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:29.760] At the expense of interfering or stepping on licensed stations' frequencies [01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:33.760] It's not what we want to do, it's not what we're doing now [01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:39.760] Much research has gone in for many years researching FCC databases and such [01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:45.760] And studying topographical maps and everything for hundreds of miles around the areas [01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:55.760] Where these broadcasters intend to put up a transmitter to make sure that nobody gets interfered with [01:07:55.760 --> 01:08:00.760] It's a long history of respect by the unlicensed broadcasters [01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:03.760] And so we're gonna try to point some of these things out [01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:05.760] I have a feeling it's not gonna do any good though [01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:11.760] I think likely what the purpose of this meeting really is as far as this legislator [01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:15.760] Is he just wants to find out how strong the law really is on our side [01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:22.760] So they'll have as much ammunition as possible to prepare to try to slam Charles Key on the House floor [01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:25.760] When it goes for debate on the House floor [01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:33.760] So Randy and I are gonna try to see how we're gonna be able to deal with this legislator in Oklahoma [01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:36.760] So folks, pray for us, keep us in your thoughts and your prayers [01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:42.760] This Wednesday at 1 p.m. is the big conference call and Charles Key isn't even gonna be there [01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:44.760] These guys won't even talk to Charles Key anymore [01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:46.760] So we've got one more chance, Randy [01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:50.760] Work your magic, it's up to you and me now [01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:53.760] Okay, so anyway, that's just a little update there [01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:57.760] And like I said, don't forget to go vote for Deborah Medina [01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:00.760] Okay, we're gonna go back to Ken from Texas [01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:02.760] Okay, Ken, thanks for hanging in there [01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:04.760] You had some more comments, questions [01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:11.760] Yeah, okay, so what I was doing, I was just kind of setting up this success story that I wanted to share with you [01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:13.760] And it's a strategy that all of you can use [01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:21.760] Now, so here this high school was, this principal was putting undue illegal influence on the teachers [01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:28.760] To vote a certain way for the bonds which would fund the school and firing them if they didn't vote a certain way [01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:34.760] Well, you know, my mother didn't like that, but she really found that that was not gonna be acceptable [01:09:34.760 --> 01:09:37.760] Once they started messing with her child, okay [01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:42.760] Now, you know, don't take anybody just the wrong way, it's not a sexist comment [01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:45.760] But don't go messing with a mother's children [01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:50.760] I mean, women have such incredible strength and determination [01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:52.760] And you know, I wish I had that too [01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:57.760] But women of any species are fierce, fierce fighters [01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:01.760] And I want to tell you, they stepped in the wrong place [01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:04.760] They stepped in it with my mother, okay [01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:07.760] My mother was very politically educated [01:10:07.760 --> 01:10:09.760] She worked for the top Dallas lawyers [01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:12.760] And here's what she did, you can all do this [01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:16.760] She happened to be a member of the League of Women Voters [01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:19.760] Now, that's an old organization [01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:22.760] I'm not sure how much they're doing now [01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:23.760] I know they're still around [01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:25.760] There are other women's organizations [01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:32.760] But this is a very, at the time, was a very powerful political organization as well, women voters [01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:37.760] Now, she went to the League of Women Voters and told them what was going on [01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:46.760] And their representative called and they arranged an appointment with the principal [01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:49.760] They said, we're going to come over there and interview you [01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:53.760] And he said, okay, sure, fine [01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:59.760] So they went over and interviewed this man who was the principal of this problem in high school [01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:07.760] And these ladies went over there and they're nice hats and pretty cars and everything [01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:16.760] And they came back and they were asked, well, what did you ask him? [01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:17.760] What did he say? [01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:22.760] Well, we asked them all kinds of questions and we got all kinds of answers [01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:26.760] It was a little bit of humor there, I guess you had to be there [01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:32.760] But they were saying that this guy was essentially a nutcase [01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:38.760] And within two weeks, he was out [01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:42.760] And that they got some justice in the school system [01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:47.760] Now, I moved away coincidentally a few months later [01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:54.760] But I want to tell you, I wasn't much of a beneficiary of the change in the policies [01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:57.760] But I met students who went to that school afterwards [01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:01.760] And they said it was a heck of a lot better [01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:09.760] And I told them, wow, my mom was involved in getting that previous principal kicked out [01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:13.760] And they said, wow, thanks a lot, it really got to be a good school after that [01:12:13.760 --> 01:12:15.760] And a lot of good changes [01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:20.760] So anyway, I've got a couple of points that there's women's organizations [01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:25.760] Particularly women's political organizations [01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:28.760] I mean, you can have a group of men there and they can say something [01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:32.760] But I think politically a group of women is much stronger [01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:38.760] And there's also the concept of don't mess with a mother's child [01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:42.760] Now, if there's women out there that have children now, guess what? [01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:46.760] Those children are one day are going to get a driver's license [01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:50.760] So one day they're going to be accused of something [01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:56.760] They can't hold their head in the sand all the time just because, oh, well, we're not having any problems now [01:12:56.760 --> 01:12:57.760] Because guess what? [01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:08.760] You're going to have problems later and you need to join this fight where we get some justice now while we can beat it [01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:10.760] That's a good point [01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:18.760] Often a single person makes a major difference if you look back all through history [01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:28.760] You'll never find where the masses made major change except by the leadership of an individual [01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:33.760] Always there's an individual that leads the masses [01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:41.760] And when we get one or two people who stand up and strike out, others will follow [01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:45.760] And it's especially a good idea to find political solutions [01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:55.760] We've been talking about that lately that going to court is not going to be the only way we're going to get this fixed [01:13:55.760 --> 01:13:58.760] We need to make this political [01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:01.760] Well, there's one other thing I'll throw it out and then I'm done [01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:10.760] There's a great book everybody should read if you haven't already, The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell [01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:20.760] And I won't even tell you what it's about really except it's about a way the changes can be or wrongs can be righted and changes can be brought about [01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:24.760] Check it out on the Internet or at your bookstore. It's a fantastic book [01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:27.760] The Tipping Point by who? [01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:32.760] The Tipping Point is by Malcolm Gladwell [01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:46.760] And one of the stories in there is how the dreaded New York City subways which were so awful and smelly and dangerous for years got cleaned up [01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:49.760] And it's very encouraging [01:14:49.760 --> 01:15:06.760] Off times it just takes somebody to have had enough and start going and lose their fear and intimidation and start poking the bear in the right place [01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:21.760] Well yeah and with The Tipping Point it turned out that what it took was the police unfortunately is not a great method that they used but it took a lot of focused activity like what we're talking about doing [01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:26.760] We're talking about focusing [01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:27.760] Precisely [01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:32.760] Anyway that was my story. Thanks for listening everybody. I hope you got something out of it [01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:35.760] Thank you [01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:44.760] All right thank you Ken. Okay we're going to go now to Scott in West Virginia. Scott thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight? [01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:55.760] Hi guys well I just listened and a couple things came to my mind that I just thought I'd throw out there my little two cents worth but it isn't worth much in this economy [01:15:55.760 --> 01:16:05.760] Anyhow when Randy was saying that you have to be focused on what your intentions are when you go into court that's a very powerful statement if you think about it [01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:19.760] Anything you do in life you have to be focused. The power of thought is very very powerful especially if you have the majority or at least more than one person or four or five or twenty or whatever [01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:29.760] If everybody's speaking on the same page then that's a powerful thing. There's lots of things to be done with the power of thought [01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:42.760] And then going back to what Eddie said there you know bring your friends. That's a good reason to have your friends and then bring the rope. Well that rope could be tablets [01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:50.760] I'll hold on there. You got it coming up there I hear some music. Yes yes yeah your rope could be your hidden cameras your little pin cameras things like this [01:16:50.760 --> 01:16:56.760] We'll talk some more about that on the other side. Definitely we need court watchers too. Okay we'll be right back [01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:05.760] Hello Austin my name is Harlan Deidre owner of Brave New Books a local independent bookstore here in town [01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:18.760] Many of you are familiar with the bookstore and have attended some of our events. We've been proud to host speakers like Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Jim Mars, Catherine Aubrey, Webster Carpley, G. Edward Griffin and many other heroic figures in the patriot movement [01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:29.760] But now Brave New Books needs your help. In order to continue to provide a space for these events and be an outlet for hard to find materials we're going to need you Austin to help spread the word about the bookstore [01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:37.760] Please tell your friends and family about the wide variety of materials we offer. We also have DVD duplication capabilities for all you activists [01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:46.760] Also if you haven't visited us yet please come down and show your support. 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If they're doodling I don't care if they're drawing a funny picture as long as they've got a tablet that judge doesn't know what they're writing [01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:08.760] And that influence right there means a lot when people are underneath a microscope no matter who you are in life. But most of us don't want to be underneath a microscope [01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:15.760] So therefore if we expose these people we get back out of there and we start interviewing them if we can. Why did they make a decision? [01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:25.760] We just wondered why you ruled that way. Well we run that in the paper. We go in there with small camcorders unless they make us throw them out so they make us leave or whatever [01:19:25.760 --> 01:19:36.760] But let them know that we're going to be watching every move. Well we can't get a lot of us to stick together. That's the whole problem with the system today is people, the majority is not ruling anymore because there is no majority [01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:47.760] You know everybody's just scared or everybody can't take off work or whatever they just want to get over with. If people would bombard these courts and quit taking plea bargains and take everything to trial [01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:57.760] They have every kind of hearing you can and then appeal it. Pretty soon the circuit courts are going to get tired of having their courts all jammed up just from the mattress courts [01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:05.760] And they're going to start putting pressure on them. Look you guys got to take care of this stuff down there. We don't have time or money to, we just don't have, we can't do it. [01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:16.760] So there we got that and we got them exposed, we get this exposure. Unfortunately there's a few of us that don't mind standing up to the system and that's one of the biggest problems [01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:24.760] Now going back to this, on this other thing I was wanting to say one thing about this fellow that was talking about being bonded on insurance [01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:33.760] Well I know for a fact you can do that because that's what I was telling you the other day that we used to do that in business and I have friends that still today are bonded like that [01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:43.760] And I think that's your natural right is to be bonded. You don't have to go through an insurance company. But people that don't have that much cash to put up for a bond [01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:52.760] You can buy a bond through your insurance companies and most insurance companies that I know of, I know Progressive used to do it because I've had it with them before [01:20:52.760 --> 01:21:00.760] You could, when I had business you would, instead of me insuring all the vehicles I would just insure me where I could drive anybody's vehicle [01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:08.760] And then I didn't have to put up the whole 25, as a matter of fact I looked that up the other day and in West Virginia I believe it was 40,000 [01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:19.760] So you can buy the bond and as long as you show that paper that you can have that bond you're legal that way and that works in a lot of different ways [01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:28.760] No different than it would be a bond if you had bonded somebody out. A bond is a bond. I don't care what it is. I mean that's my layman terms. I'm definitely not a lawyer [01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:31.760] That's just from my dealings with being in business over the years [01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:35.760] Well you can also buy personal liability insurance [01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:38.760] Yeah that's what you were telling me the other day [01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:47.760] Similar, similar to the same thing where you, instead of just buying a bond you just purchase insurance in case you create any liability [01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:56.760] Then you're covered if you're driving in a car or if you're walking down the street and somebody trips over you and then they want to sue you for knocking them down [01:21:56.760 --> 01:22:04.760] Any kind of liability that may emanate from your actions you'd be covered for which include the automobile [01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:14.760] Well I think that's what insurance is. It basically is a bond. Wouldn't that be, I mean that's your guarantee that you're insured for so much [01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:22.760] Yeah because I use that reference when we talk about a judge's bond to think insurance because yes it's essentially the same thing [01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:27.760] So we may be talking about precisely the same thing just in different words [01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:34.760] Yeah and also the reason these companies, they'll try to, you go in there and you talk to an insurance agent [01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:38.760] I went through this the first two or three times and then finally I was talking to a friend of mine and I asked him [01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:44.760] I said wait a minute now I went and tried this and he said, my company didn't know nothing about it didn't know what I was talking about [01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:48.760] He said you go right back in there and tell them that's exactly what you want [01:22:48.760 --> 01:22:55.760] He said they'll try to tell you they don't know nothing about it because they want you to make that monthly payment or whatever [01:22:55.760 --> 01:23:05.760] Buy yearly payment or whatever it is, quarterly payment on your insurance so they can charge you for each individual vehicle and make so much money off of it [01:23:05.760 --> 01:23:11.760] He said no no no, he said that you go in there and you tell them exactly what you want, that your friend's got it and so forth [01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:19.760] With their company and they'll get it for you but they're going to play stupid so that you have to pay such an ungodly amount for each vehicle [01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:27.760] So a lot of these companies will do this and most of them, I don't know if it's, it wouldn't surprise me if in their regulations that they have to do that [01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:31.760] But they're just not letting us know, I don't know about that, I didn't read up on that part [01:23:31.760 --> 01:23:40.760] But I do know that you can do that and you can, until that bond's used, in other words if you don't get in an accident and that bond is never used [01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:47.760] Then that bond's good, I mean it's good for, you know, if you pay the full amount of the bond it's good until that bond's used up [01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:58.760] If not then you buy for a year or six months or whatever you bond yourself for and that way I didn't have to pay monthly payments, the insurance payments for each vehicle [01:23:58.760 --> 01:24:01.760] So anyhow I get that out of the way, that's all I want to say on that [01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:08.760] There was something else but I don't remember what it was, I kind of lost my train of thought when I was listening to one of the other fellas there [01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:16.760] But I'll think of something there, I'll let y'all go and I'm still working on mine and maybe by next year this time I'll be able to get back out on the road [01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:19.760] But you all take care and I appreciate your program [01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:20.760] All right, thanks Scott [01:24:20.760 --> 01:24:21.760] Okay [01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:22.760] Okay, good night [01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:27.760] Okay, we're going to talk now to Guy in Arkansas and then we'll go to Reba and Robert [01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:30.760] Guy, thanks for calling in, what's on your mind tonight? [01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:33.760] Hey, good evening beautiful people [01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:34.760] Thank you [01:24:34.760 --> 01:24:43.760] Yeah, you know, I'll start off with a version of, a really bad version of Stump the Chumps, how's that? [01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:56.760] You know, driving home today I got stopped in a line of cars, they were letting the kids get out by a school that was a grammar school [01:24:56.760 --> 01:25:07.760] And the traffic officer had a sign, a stop sign, it was octagon, red, but instead of saying stop on it, it said halt [01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:16.760] Now, there's a friend, I'm still offended by it, it's got me so irate, and so I've been sitting here stewing in this [01:25:16.760 --> 01:25:28.760] Thinking that, you know, if there's an easy way of getting some kind of a civil suit against this, maybe a class action [01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:39.760] Based on that English is the, I think there's a court case, isn't there a Supreme Court case out there that says that English is the official language of the United States? [01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:51.760] And I would like to use that as a basis for a temporary injunction towards a full civil suit to stop this kind of action, what do you think about that? [01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:59.760] What is your, is your complaint the wording on the sign? [01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:03.760] Well, I live in America, not Germany here [01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:11.760] Well, actually, halt is, it may be of German origin, but it is incorporated into the English language [01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:26.760] Well, I think it's demeaning and it brings a, well, you know, it's another way of steering us away from our American roots and heritage [01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:32.760] And this is some form of a subjugation of our culture [01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:38.760] Okay, this goes to be careful what you ask for [01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:44.760] Well, but also you need to understand that the American culture is a melting pot culture [01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:50.760] We aren't just one race of people here, we never have been [01:26:50.760 --> 01:26:55.760] We grew to what we were because we're a diversified culture [01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:59.760] You're going to have to learn Spanish whether you like it or not [01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:01.760] No, that's not what I'm getting at [01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:05.760] Yes, we have a national language and yes, those that come here ought to learn it [01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:10.760] But English is the most difficult language in the world to learn for a reason [01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:11.760] It's like an excuse [01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:12.760] It's because [01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:13.760] Sounds like an excuse [01:27:13.760 --> 01:27:14.760] Go ahead [01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:21.760] I want, I want, I want to stand on firm ground and I don't want you to defend this [01:27:21.760 --> 01:27:26.760] I'm asking for a little advisor that I can stand on for my rights [01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:29.760] And this is degrading the national language [01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:32.760] Okay, my first question is [01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:42.760] Little i instead of a capital i to signify a proper noun or a noun [01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:46.760] And this is another strategy of defacing the language [01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:50.760] I do have another question for you, I don't want to lose track of that [01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:53.760] But I just wanted to bring that up as one of the talk points [01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:56.760] Okay, let me ask a question [01:27:56.760 --> 01:27:59.760] How have you been harmed? [01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:01.760] Well, I've been incensed [01:28:01.760 --> 01:28:04.760] I know English, I don't know German [01:28:04.760 --> 01:28:10.760] So you want it so that we can take legal action against someone [01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:13.760] Because they do something you personally don't like [01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:20.760] The school system is harboring a foreign language [01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:25.760] Hoff is not part of the English language? [01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:27.760] I don't, you know, I don't know, I don't think so [01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:29.760] It most certainly is [01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:32.760] Well, I don't think it is, and you know [01:28:32.760 --> 01:28:35.760] Well, okay, still, how have you been harmed? [01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:38.760] Well, because it incensed me, I'm insulted [01:28:38.760 --> 01:28:41.760] So now, okay, now we have to [01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:46.760] Okay, wait, you want to restrict the right of someone else [01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:49.760] Because they [01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:52.760] You find what they're doing personally offensive [01:28:52.760 --> 01:28:55.760] The school policy here is that someone else [01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:59.760] That the officer who held the sign up didn't put it on by himself [01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:03.760] This has got to be from a school's point of view [01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:05.760] Not from an officer's point of view [01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:11.760] Okay, so now you want to make sure that no government agency institutes a policy [01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:15.760] That anyone would be offended by [01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:17.760] I don't see how this is workable [01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:19.760] I just want to throw that out there [01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:21.760] I didn't want to make it the main point [01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:25.760] Okay, okay [01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:27.760] Agreed [01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:30.760] We are all, you know, we go into court [01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:33.760] We are, you know, we [01:29:33.760 --> 01:29:35.760] Is that music coming on? [01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:36.760] Yes, it is [01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:38.760] You're going to have to hold on to the other side, guys [01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:41.760] Okay, will do [01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:43.760] Okay, we will be right back [01:29:43.760 --> 01:29:45.760] We've got Reba, Robert, Gary, Jesse [01:29:45.760 --> 01:29:47.760] The call boards are filling up, folks [01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:50.760] As usual, coming into the last half hour stretch [01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:52.760] One, two, three, four, five people [01:29:52.760 --> 01:29:54.760] We've got to deal with five people in the next half hour [01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:59.760] So let's try to stick to the main points, guys [01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:02.760] Are you the plaintiff or defendant in a lawsuit? 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[01:32:01.760 --> 01:32:03.760] It's Guy, not Gary [01:32:03.760 --> 01:32:06.760] Guy, I'm sorry I misread the call screen, Guy [01:32:06.760 --> 01:32:08.760] What is your next point, Guy? [01:32:08.760 --> 01:32:14.760] Next one is, you know, we all want to find a clean way [01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:18.760] Of countering the objections and being able to stand [01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:22.760] And rebut the objections and know what we're talking about [01:32:22.760 --> 01:32:26.760] And of course like Randy and Eddie were saying earlier [01:32:26.760 --> 01:32:28.760] That they throw you off course that way [01:32:28.760 --> 01:32:33.760] Which we should try and find a way to learn how to [01:32:33.760 --> 01:32:40.760] Counteract or counterdict a prosecution attorney's objections [01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:44.760] Maybe Randy, you guys might be able to [01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:49.760] Maybe kind of work on that in some scientific way [01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:53.760] Now isn't that true that really our remedy is [01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:57.760] In the appeals court that even though they object [01:32:57.760 --> 01:33:04.760] And they go through their show and pony show [01:33:04.760 --> 01:33:09.760] That really we win our case in the appeals court [01:33:09.760 --> 01:33:12.760] Because of their methods and tactics [01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:14.760] And for the sake of the other callers [01:33:14.760 --> 01:33:17.760] I'll just let that ride and take your comments off air [01:33:17.760 --> 01:33:20.760] And listen to you later on, thank you [01:33:20.760 --> 01:33:23.760] That's precisely the issue is [01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:27.760] And that's a point we brought up early that in this court [01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:29.760] You are not going to get justice [01:33:29.760 --> 01:33:31.760] You're not going to get rulings in your favor [01:33:31.760 --> 01:33:35.760] Primarily what you're there to do is make the record [01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:40.760] But what we're trying to do is make it easier to make the record [01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:43.760] So we have to define the record we want to make [01:33:43.760 --> 01:33:48.760] Precisely what issues do we want on the record [01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:51.760] And how do we get to those issues [01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:54.760] How do we frame them in a way so that [01:33:54.760 --> 01:33:58.760] When you start toward the issue and the prosecutor jumps in front of you [01:33:58.760 --> 01:34:02.760] And waves their arms and jumps up and down and distracts you [01:34:02.760 --> 01:34:08.760] How do we create focal points that will draw you back to the point you were going to [01:34:08.760 --> 01:34:11.760] And that's what we're working toward [01:34:11.760 --> 01:34:14.760] Oh, and I found the entomology of Halt [01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:17.760] Middle English from Old English health [01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:21.760] Okay, well, yeah, as we were discussing on the break [01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:29.760] The English language is kind of a motley mutt mix of roots of different linguistics [01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:34.760] I mean, it primarily has Latin roots but it also has Germanic roots [01:34:34.760 --> 01:34:37.760] It's got a lot of Germanic roots and some Baltic roots as well [01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:39.760] It's not like most languages [01:34:39.760 --> 01:34:42.760] That's why it is a very difficult language to learn [01:34:42.760 --> 01:34:44.760] It is the most difficult language to learn [01:34:44.760 --> 01:34:48.760] Because there are more exceptions to the English language than any other language [01:34:48.760 --> 01:34:51.760] And it's got so many different roots that are mixed in [01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:56.760] It's very difficult to find clear patterns for people who are first learning [01:34:56.760 --> 01:35:01.760] So, I mean, I know that's no excuse, but I am pointing those things out [01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:05.760] In the case of the word Halt, though, we're dealing with a straight-up English word [01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:07.760] It's just an Old English word [01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:10.760] Okay, yes, and it also has Gaelic roots as well [01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:12.760] So there's a lot mixed in there [01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:16.760] Okay, we're going to go now to Reba in Missouri [01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:19.760] Reba, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind? [01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:26.760] Oh, I was wondering if Randy had a chance to go through my email from Friday night [01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:30.760] You'll have to tell me who you are [01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:31.760] My mom had sent you the email [01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:34.760] You found it during Friday night's show and told me to call in [01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:36.760] Yes, yes, no [01:35:36.760 --> 01:35:37.760] Yes, no [01:35:37.760 --> 01:35:41.760] Yes, I remember. No, I haven't had time to go through them [01:35:41.760 --> 01:35:42.760] Okay [01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:45.760] I apologize. I've been swamped [01:35:45.760 --> 01:35:52.760] Well, our biggest thing is with the other case we have coming into court for ourselves [01:35:52.760 --> 01:35:58.760] And the several other cases that are surrounding this matter [01:35:58.760 --> 01:36:06.760] On the private issue, we need to deal with this traffic citation [01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:11.760] Unfortunately, we do not want to upset the courts and fight it outright [01:36:11.760 --> 01:36:18.760] But at the same time, they ask for a $450 cash bond, which is usually in the neighborhood of a fine [01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:26.760] When they ask cash bond, we're trying to figure out what can we do to try to lessen the charges, the fines [01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:36.760] Now, my husband, they showed up at, let's see, 2 o'clock in the afternoon to arrest him [01:36:36.760 --> 01:36:40.760] I said, he's not home. May I inquire as to why you need him? [01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:42.760] I said, well, not really [01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:49.760] And I said, well, there's two squads and three officers. Do you have a warrant for his arrest? [01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:52.760] And he kind of hung his head a little, said, yes, ma'am, we do [01:36:52.760 --> 01:36:55.760] It would be real nice if he turned himself in [01:36:55.760 --> 01:37:01.760] So he turned himself in 50 minutes later [01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:05.760] Now, we had to go way out in the woods and find him and bring him in [01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:09.760] And that same officer was the one that took him into custody [01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:18.760] And he did write us a note stating it only took 50 minutes for him to come in and turn himself in, which shows no resistance [01:37:18.760 --> 01:37:23.760] Now, remember, the two charges, the first one is failure to appear on a no driver's license ticket [01:37:23.760 --> 01:37:27.760] The other one is simply a failure to appear court case [01:37:27.760 --> 01:37:32.760] You mentioned on Friday it's likely that they'll just drop one [01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:41.760] But what can we do further to make it likely to get, you know, the minimum fine out of no driver's license or what have you? [01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:45.760] You're not. If the judge can hit you with a fine, he's going to hit you [01:37:45.760 --> 01:37:50.760] The only way you can make that determination is if you have a jury trial [01:37:50.760 --> 01:37:57.760] And you put in writing that you want the jury to set the punishment [01:37:57.760 --> 01:37:59.760] Are you in Texas? [01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:01.760] No, we're in Missouri [01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:02.760] In Missouri, OK [01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:08.760] Now, remember, our biggest goal is we're poor, flat-billed people [01:38:08.760 --> 01:38:16.760] And we're fighting a war, and this is just a little skirmish way off the side that has nothing to do with our war [01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:20.760] Now, this war is taking a lot of money on the part of a lot of people [01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:26.760] And we really, now, we lost our attorney for the war thanks to this deal [01:38:26.760 --> 01:38:29.760] Just come to find out he's the prosecuting attorney [01:38:29.760 --> 01:38:34.760] And because he's not started representing us yet, he cannot represent us in our war now [01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:40.760] And so now we're going pro se up against giants [01:38:40.760 --> 01:38:43.760] And we need to save our resources [01:38:43.760 --> 01:38:48.760] It's the biggest deal right now, but it's a very small court system here [01:38:48.760 --> 01:38:55.760] OK, the only thing I can suggest is get the traffic code in Missouri and read it [01:38:55.760 --> 01:39:03.760] It's unlikely you're going to upset the judge if you bring strong legal issues in front of him [01:39:03.760 --> 01:39:11.760] All right. Well, one thing I did do now, I'd gone in and done like you guys always say [01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:15.760] And requested everything on the file regarding this matter [01:39:15.760 --> 01:39:21.760] Now, the clerk of court has this little bitty corner, and I'm standing right next to an open door [01:39:21.760 --> 01:39:26.760] And maybe five feet inside that open door, there's a judge sitting at a desk [01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:31.760] Now, he'd never seen me before, and he had no reason to believe there's no name on the door [01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:35.760] He had no reason to believe that I knew he was the judge, and I wouldn't have known it [01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:41.760] Except I was in that same office yesterday, and the lady had pointed at that door and said the judge is not in [01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:44.760] Well, there's only one desk in this little bitty office [01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:48.760] So I went ahead and pretended I didn't even see him. I did let her know [01:39:48.760 --> 01:39:52.760] Now, this is an issue. I don't know how to argue it [01:39:52.760 --> 01:39:55.760] There was no mailing address on the ticket [01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:59.760] Now, when she copied that file, she said, well, here's where we mailed you a court page [01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:05.760] And we mailed you a notice that we were going to give you a warrant, a courtesy, this and that and the other [01:40:05.760 --> 01:40:11.760] But our address listed on the ticket because my husband did not even reside here yet [01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:17.760] And I was just moving here. He had been here less than 24 hours bringing in the loaded stuff from Texas [01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:20.760] Okay, you can show lack of service [01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:22.760] Lack of service, okay [01:40:22.760 --> 01:40:27.760] That you weren't properly served, and therefore you had no knowledge of the here of the [01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:33.760] Wait a minute, you said last time that he was notified of the hearing but had to leave [01:40:33.760 --> 01:40:36.760] He missed the first hearing he tried to call and reschedule [01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:39.760] Okay, here's what I suggest [01:40:39.760 --> 01:40:43.760] Request a show cause hearing on the failure to appear [01:40:43.760 --> 01:40:45.760] A show cause hearing? [01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:50.760] Yeah, a show cause hearing, and they will almost always dismiss if you have good cause [01:40:50.760 --> 01:40:54.760] Okay, show cause and failure to appear [01:40:54.760 --> 01:40:59.760] Okay, now on the service, if we missed our first hearing, were they required to serve? [01:40:59.760 --> 01:41:03.760] That's your cause for failure to appear on the first one [01:41:03.760 --> 01:41:13.760] And on the second one, if you had a critical situation that was timely and had to be handled [01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:16.760] Almost certainly they will dismiss that [01:41:16.760 --> 01:41:19.760] They still want to get you on the original citation [01:41:19.760 --> 01:41:25.760] But generally they're not so crazy about nailing you for failure to appear, especially if you can show cause [01:41:25.760 --> 01:41:33.760] Okay, now all we do is when he goes in front of the judge, he asks him how he pleads, what does he say? [01:41:33.760 --> 01:41:35.760] I want a show cause hearing? [01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:38.760] Well, that doesn't have anything to do with plea [01:41:38.760 --> 01:41:39.760] Okay [01:41:39.760 --> 01:41:44.760] You file that, you write a motion and file a motion with the court to show cause [01:41:44.760 --> 01:41:47.760] As for a show cause hearing on the failure to appear [01:41:47.760 --> 01:41:51.760] Failure to appear is prima facie because you weren't there [01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:52.760] Okay [01:41:52.760 --> 01:41:59.760] Then that's why if you ask for a show cause, their due process requires that they give you one [01:41:59.760 --> 01:42:08.760] Because it's not absolutely etched in concrete that no matter what on earth happens, you have to be here this day [01:42:08.760 --> 01:42:13.760] You have to be here unless you can show good cause is why you can't [01:42:13.760 --> 01:42:14.760] Okay [01:42:14.760 --> 01:42:18.760] So a show cause will probably get rid of both of them [01:42:18.760 --> 01:42:20.760] Probably [01:42:20.760 --> 01:42:27.760] I think you can't say there is no silver bullet in law when you have corrupt municipal courts [01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:31.760] All you can do is bring what you got [01:42:31.760 --> 01:42:33.760] Yeah, in fact that's what we were talking about earlier [01:42:33.760 --> 01:42:41.760] It's like the best thing to do is to just try to get as much on the record as possible because you're going to have a better shot on the appeal [01:42:41.760 --> 01:42:47.760] Right, you can appeal to show cause. If they deny you on the show cause, you can appeal it [01:42:47.760 --> 01:42:54.760] Okay, see we're just trying to come out from this episode, if you will, unscathed as possible [01:42:54.760 --> 01:42:56.760] My husband's not getting a driver's license [01:42:56.760 --> 01:42:59.760] He doesn't have a social security number, good luck [01:42:59.760 --> 01:43:03.760] You need to have your law in your hand [01:43:03.760 --> 01:43:04.760] Okay [01:43:04.760 --> 01:43:10.760] If you're going to take this route, make sure you have your law, make sure you've done your homework [01:43:10.760 --> 01:43:15.760] Yeah, you need to read the transportation code for the state of Missouri very well, understand everything [01:43:15.760 --> 01:43:19.760] It's likely very similar to the Texas transportation code [01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:27.760] Okay, we had studied some of Texas in the past, but we've been here nearly two years and have had little time to study [01:43:27.760 --> 01:43:31.760] Well, just over a year and a half [01:43:31.760 --> 01:43:36.760] Okay, listen Reba, we're coming to a break and we need to continue this discussion on Thursday [01:43:36.760 --> 01:43:41.760] Because I've got three other callers that have been waiting for a long time, we need to take them in the next segment [01:43:41.760 --> 01:43:42.760] Alright [01:43:42.760 --> 01:43:46.760] Okay, thanks, you don't have a hearing between now and Thursday, right? [01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:47.760] No [01:43:47.760 --> 01:43:51.760] Okay, alright, well then we'll have more time on Thursday, we'll pick this up again on Thursday [01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:57.760] Alright, we're going to go to Robert, Gary and Jesse in this final segment, we'll be right back [01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:04.760] Are you being harassed by debt collectors with phone calls, letters or even lawsuits? 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[01:46:00.760 --> 01:46:01.760] Yep, you got four minutes [01:46:01.760 --> 01:46:11.760] Okay, let's say Randy and his wife went in to file an application for habeas corpus in a court [01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:16.760] And they sent you a hearing date to come in and called it a motion [01:46:16.760 --> 01:46:24.760] And then you went in and he called your wife up but wouldn't let you come up [01:46:24.760 --> 01:46:28.760] And he called it a motion and never called it a habeas corpus [01:46:28.760 --> 01:46:32.760] And after say like 10 or 15 minutes after a lot of humiliation [01:46:32.760 --> 01:46:35.760] He says he didn't have jurisdiction [01:46:35.760 --> 01:46:40.760] And then when we asked for the order he calls it a habeas [01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:43.760] Said he didn't have jurisdiction on the habeas [01:46:43.760 --> 01:46:48.760] Well he said there's some kind of grievance that we could file because he never addressed the habeas [01:46:48.760 --> 01:46:49.760] Okay, who was the judge? [01:46:49.760 --> 01:46:50.760] He was calling it a motion [01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:53.760] He just completely disregarded the whole [01:46:53.760 --> 01:46:54.760] Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute [01:46:54.760 --> 01:47:00.760] We need to know who the judge was before we know if he had jurisdiction over the habeas [01:47:00.760 --> 01:47:06.760] Well, he was Judge Norton Richardson and I assume he was acting as a magistrate [01:47:06.760 --> 01:47:09.760] Oh, okay, I don't like that guy [01:47:09.760 --> 01:47:12.760] And if you mention my name to him [01:47:12.760 --> 01:47:13.760] No [01:47:13.760 --> 01:47:15.760] He'll probably start spitting in the floor [01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:16.760] Right [01:47:16.760 --> 01:47:21.760] However, he has no jurisdiction to rule on the habeas [01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:24.760] Yeah, listen, Randy's saying he doesn't have jurisdiction to rule on the habeas [01:47:24.760 --> 01:47:26.760] Can you hear us okay? [01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:26.760] Oh, yeah [01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:28.760] Okay, all right, just making sure [01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:32.760] So he clearly didn't have jurisdiction on the habeas [01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:34.760] It'd have to go to a higher court anyway [01:47:34.760 --> 01:47:36.760] You can't file a habeas in the court that you're in [01:47:36.760 --> 01:47:42.760] Yeah, there was a reason for that but we're just trying to get started to a very ground level again [01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:48.760] But the whole idea is he never addressed it at all [01:47:48.760 --> 01:47:50.760] He can't address it, that's the third [01:47:50.760 --> 01:47:52.760] He has no jurisdiction, he cannot address it [01:47:52.760 --> 01:47:54.760] So we have no grievance here? [01:47:54.760 --> 01:48:01.760] Not on that one, was he rude, insulting, demeaning? [01:48:01.760 --> 01:48:07.760] Well, he always takes advantage of my wife, he won't let me come up in front of him [01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:13.760] Well, who was the case again, who had standing before the court? [01:48:13.760 --> 01:48:15.760] Well, this is still the code violations and stuff here in Richardson [01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:16.760] Oh, the code violations [01:48:16.760 --> 01:48:21.760] We never have been able to get out of that municipal court jurisdiction basically [01:48:21.760 --> 01:48:24.760] He's never given us an appeal [01:48:24.760 --> 01:48:29.760] We did everything on the son, so we went back and started at the lower end to try to [01:48:29.760 --> 01:48:32.760] Wait a minute, did you file an appeal? [01:48:32.760 --> 01:48:37.760] Well, we tried to but he never would okay it [01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:41.760] Then file criminal charges against him, he doesn't get to okay it [01:48:41.760 --> 01:48:42.760] Okay [01:48:42.760 --> 01:48:46.760] Wait, was there a final adjudication in the cause? [01:48:46.760 --> 01:48:47.760] Was there a what? [01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:49.760] Final order in the case [01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:55.760] I guess we would call it an order, yeah, it was just a fine [01:48:55.760 --> 01:49:03.760] Okay, if he issued a fine, then you notice of appeal, he doesn't have any say over that [01:49:03.760 --> 01:49:07.760] When you notice of an appeal, he loses plenary jurisdiction [01:49:07.760 --> 01:49:12.760] If he interferes at all, you start charging him with obstruction of justice, file criminally [01:49:12.760 --> 01:49:15.760] Judicial conduct complaint, tort letter to the city [01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:20.760] You really need to hammer this guy, because he is a chump [01:49:20.760 --> 01:49:25.760] The whole deal is for each case, like we had over 100 cases in that one trial [01:49:25.760 --> 01:49:28.760] And for each case you have to file $25 [01:49:28.760 --> 01:49:33.760] You have to pay the court $25 for each fee just to get it out of the clerk's office [01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:36.760] So that comes around two grand [01:49:36.760 --> 01:49:37.760] Wait, wait, wait, wait [01:49:37.760 --> 01:49:40.760] And on top of that you have the court [01:49:40.760 --> 01:49:41.760] Wait, wait, wait, stop [01:49:41.760 --> 01:49:42.760] Hold on, hold on, hold on, Robert [01:49:42.760 --> 01:49:43.760] Stop [01:49:43.760 --> 01:49:47.760] You have to pay $25 to get what out of the court's office? [01:49:47.760 --> 01:49:58.760] Each clerk's office, they charge a $25 fee for each different ticket when you appeal it [01:49:58.760 --> 01:50:02.760] That they gather up the information and getting it together, that's what they charge you, $25 [01:50:02.760 --> 01:50:05.760] Have you looked, I've never heard of such a thing [01:50:05.760 --> 01:50:08.760] Have you looked in the law to see where they're authorized to charge that? [01:50:08.760 --> 01:50:11.760] I don't remember, it's been so long ago [01:50:11.760 --> 01:50:15.760] These are the details you need to go after [01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:20.760] Okay, listen, we're starting to run out of time, we've got like seven minutes left, we've got two more callers [01:50:20.760 --> 01:50:21.760] Okay, bye [01:50:21.760 --> 01:50:26.760] Okay, well yeah, we just need to wrap it up, that's all [01:50:26.760 --> 01:50:31.760] Okay, I wasn't trying to cut them off, I was just letting people know what the time is [01:50:31.760 --> 01:50:40.760] Okay, well you just need to read the statute, see where the clerk gets the authority to assess any fine or fee [01:50:40.760 --> 01:50:42.760] They can't just do that because they want to [01:50:42.760 --> 01:50:48.760] And if they assess a fee they're not allowed to, they're required to reimburse it in triplicate [01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:53.760] Yeah, and folks, you don't need to hang up and say bye, like as soon as I, if I come on and mention the time [01:50:53.760 --> 01:50:56.760] I'm just letting people know the time so that we can wrap it up [01:50:56.760 --> 01:50:59.760] Okay, Gary from Texas, go ahead [01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:01.760] Hey, how y'all doing tonight? [01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:02.760] Pretty good [01:51:02.760 --> 01:51:10.760] Oh good, I'll be real quick, this is kind of after the fact, kind of want to know what Willie would say, so to speak [01:51:10.760 --> 01:51:16.760] I got a suspicion of DWI here almost a year ago [01:51:16.760 --> 01:51:27.760] And the APD, Austin here, gave me a notice saying that my license would be suspended in 30 days [01:51:27.760 --> 01:51:34.760] Of which I did by that, and I did not drive for six months [01:51:34.760 --> 01:51:45.760] And then I contacted, of course I had an attorney, and I contacted my attorney that's handling some kind of AELR hearing or something [01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:48.760] I refused to take a breath test at the time [01:51:48.760 --> 01:51:56.760] And then when I contacted my attorney in October, which I'd never heard before that [01:51:56.760 --> 01:52:00.760] She said, well she hadn't even had the hearing yet, so that couldn't be [01:52:00.760 --> 01:52:04.760] And I said, well I haven't been driving for six months, and she said, well you could have been [01:52:04.760 --> 01:52:12.760] And at any rate, long about, she said she was going to have it in a week, and I still didn't hear from her in a week [01:52:12.760 --> 01:52:20.760] And then I didn't hear from her in November, and then in December I received a notice from the DPS [01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:25.760] That my license was suspended again for six months [01:52:25.760 --> 01:52:34.760] And that was in December, and then along in January, and I did contact that attorney [01:52:34.760 --> 01:52:37.760] Wait a minute, wait a minute, we're running out of time [01:52:37.760 --> 01:52:39.760] Where are you getting to? [01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:45.760] What recourse do I have? In other words, I haven't been driving since almost a year now [01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:51.760] And then now they tell me, in December they sent me another notice saying it was suspended for six months [01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:56.760] And then last week they sent me another notice saying it was suspended for six months [01:52:56.760 --> 01:53:03.760] So what recourse do I really have? Now I'm planning on probably [01:53:03.760 --> 01:53:05.760] Are you sure it's not for the same period of time? [01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:10.760] Yeah, it's the same thing, I've only had one ticket in my lifetime [01:53:10.760 --> 01:53:18.760] No, no, no, is the suspension period for the license the same time frame? From this month to this month? [01:53:18.760 --> 01:53:23.760] Are they just sending you notices of the same time frame, or do they have different time frames? [01:53:23.760 --> 01:53:26.760] Different time frames, different time frames [01:53:26.760 --> 01:53:29.760] Then you need a petition for a show cause hearing [01:53:29.760 --> 01:53:30.760] Show cause? [01:53:30.760 --> 01:53:39.760] Yes, petition show cause as to why your license is being suspended twice in the same period of time [01:53:39.760 --> 01:53:41.760] How about three times? [01:53:41.760 --> 01:53:43.760] Being suspended when it's already suspended [01:53:43.760 --> 01:53:49.760] It was suspended for six months and then in December they suspended it again for six more months [01:53:49.760 --> 01:53:51.760] For a different set of time, yeah [01:53:51.760 --> 01:53:56.760] And in February they extended it again for another six months [01:53:56.760 --> 01:54:07.760] What does the statute say on their authority to suspend your license for failure to take a breath test? [01:54:07.760 --> 01:54:10.760] They say they'll give you an automatic suspension [01:54:10.760 --> 01:54:14.760] Now what do they say? What does the statute say? Have you read the statute? [01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:16.760] No, I have not [01:54:16.760 --> 01:54:18.760] Oh, naughty, naughty [01:54:18.760 --> 01:54:23.760] I know it, I know it, after the fact, I hired attorneys, I thought they knew what they were doing [01:54:23.760 --> 01:54:27.760] And I've gotten their attention that they're coming in here [01:54:27.760 --> 01:54:31.760] Well, they do know what they're doing, they're policing you, you trusted them to fight your case [01:54:31.760 --> 01:54:33.760] I absolutely did [01:54:33.760 --> 01:54:36.760] And listen, Gary, we may need to talk about this some more on Thursday [01:54:36.760 --> 01:54:39.760] Wait, we've got three and a half minutes left, I've got to take Jessie [01:54:39.760 --> 01:54:40.760] Go right ahead [01:54:40.760 --> 01:54:45.760] Okay, all right, yes, so you need a petition for show cause and you need to read the statute on breathalyzers [01:54:45.760 --> 01:54:48.760] And what they're authorized to do, how long they're authorized to suspend your license for [01:54:48.760 --> 01:54:53.760] Okay, we're going to go to Jessie in Texas and all these callers who are in this last segment [01:54:53.760 --> 01:54:57.760] Please feel free to call back in on Thursday, you'll have more time [01:54:57.760 --> 01:55:00.760] Okay, go ahead, Jessie [01:55:00.760 --> 01:55:02.760] Hi, hello, how are you? [01:55:02.760 --> 01:55:04.760] Yep, you've got about three and a half minutes, go [01:55:04.760 --> 01:55:12.760] Yes, I got court on Thursday, 8.30 in the morning, municipal court [01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:16.760] I received a... [01:55:16.760 --> 01:55:25.760] Well, I was pulled over for speeding and I had a warrant, how far I'm going to arrest, I got arrested that same day [01:55:25.760 --> 01:55:31.760] And now I know that my driver's license has been suspended [01:55:31.760 --> 01:55:41.760] And that's what the hearing is about, the speeding ticket and suspended driver's license [01:55:41.760 --> 01:55:48.760] And I know, I mean I'm not in, I don't deal with commercial business so I know that I don't need a commercial license [01:55:48.760 --> 01:55:52.760] Or any kind of license to drive my own private property [01:55:52.760 --> 01:56:01.760] But you know, it's just me facing the bad guy [01:56:01.760 --> 01:56:03.760] What's your question? [01:56:03.760 --> 01:56:06.760] Yes, hello? [01:56:06.760 --> 01:56:08.760] What's your question? [01:56:08.760 --> 01:56:10.760] We're running out of time [01:56:10.760 --> 01:56:14.760] Yeah, we're almost, yeah, we only have like two minutes left [01:56:14.760 --> 01:56:26.760] Well, my question was, what motions can I use to... [01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:31.760] Okay, it's Monday night and you're going to court Thursday? [01:56:31.760 --> 01:56:32.760] Yeah [01:56:32.760 --> 01:56:36.760] Absolutely no time [01:56:36.760 --> 01:56:41.760] You're just, you're arguing you'd have to make, they'll rule against you on everything you make [01:56:41.760 --> 01:56:46.760] What about a motion for continuance, do you think you could try to stay this motion, put it off so we can have more time? [01:56:46.760 --> 01:56:50.760] Not if he's already got arrested for it, they're not going to give him a continuance [01:56:50.760 --> 01:56:53.760] Is there anything, is there anything that makes you sick to your stomach? [01:56:53.760 --> 01:56:55.760] Oh, Randy [01:56:55.760 --> 01:56:58.760] Just throw up in the court and you'll get a continuance [01:56:58.760 --> 01:57:02.760] Right, I didn't get arrested for this, this was a different warrant [01:57:02.760 --> 01:57:08.760] Just an existing warrant on something else and they might give you a continuous [01:57:08.760 --> 01:57:11.760] Generally, the first continuous they'll give you [01:57:11.760 --> 01:57:23.760] And then, I also have the challenge to jurisdiction and statement of clause, page one, you know, the 13, can I file that against them as well? [01:57:23.760 --> 01:57:29.760] Well, it depends on the nature, yeah, you can always file a challenge to the jurisdiction if it depends on the grounds that you state [01:57:29.760 --> 01:57:35.760] You can't just claim that they have no jurisdiction, you have to say why they don't have jurisdiction [01:57:35.760 --> 01:57:39.760] Best suggestion, see if you can get a continuance [01:57:39.760 --> 01:57:40.760] Yep [01:57:40.760 --> 01:57:46.760] Call down there, tell them you think you have the swine flu, you're getting tested for it [01:57:46.760 --> 01:57:51.760] It'll be the first hearing, so I think it's just [01:57:51.760 --> 01:57:53.760] Oh wait, this is just the first hearing? [01:57:53.760 --> 01:57:54.760] This isn't a trial? [01:57:54.760 --> 01:57:56.760] Right, no, right [01:57:56.760 --> 01:57:58.760] Oh, no problem then, no problem, don't worry about it [01:57:58.760 --> 01:58:04.760] You'll go down there and they'll just do a little song and dance, they'll sit down in your pants, let's make a deal [01:58:04.760 --> 01:58:09.760] They'll probably try to get you to talk to the prosecutor, just tell them you're not going to talk to the prosecutor [01:58:09.760 --> 01:58:16.760] Yeah, and then get Eddie's traffic seminar and it'll give you what you need to make these, to help [01:58:16.760 --> 01:58:18.760] Yeah, yeah, yeah [01:58:18.760 --> 01:58:21.760] I did attend the seminar [01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:23.760] Oh, okay, great, Jesse [01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:24.760] You got it? [01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:27.760] Okay, yep [01:58:27.760 --> 01:58:28.760] Call us Thursday [01:58:28.760 --> 01:58:34.760] Yeah, and then we'll be having more motions pretty soon for those who attended the seminar [01:58:34.760 --> 01:58:38.760] We'll have some additional documents for you folks pretty soon [01:58:38.760 --> 01:58:40.760] All right, terrific, thank you [01:58:40.760 --> 01:58:42.760] Okay, thanks Jesse [01:58:42.760 --> 01:58:47.760] All right, and sorry college, please don't be offended that I had to like kind of rush people along [01:58:47.760 --> 01:58:53.760] But we want to get everyone in in time and folks call back in on Thursday and Friday [01:58:53.760 --> 01:58:58.760] We will see y'all on Thursday [01:59:23.760 --> 01:59:27.760] Somebody chop it from me [01:59:27.760 --> 01:59:29.760] I'm like a stepping razor [01:59:29.760 --> 01:59:31.760] Watch my sides [01:59:31.760 --> 01:59:33.760] I'm dangerous [01:59:33.760 --> 01:59:35.760] I'm dangerous [01:59:35.760 --> 01:59:37.760] I'm like a chopping razor [01:59:37.760 --> 01:59:39.760] Watch my sides [01:59:39.760 --> 01:59:41.760] I'm dangerous [01:59:41.760 --> 01:59:43.760] Dangerous [01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:45.760] When you eat, I'm the boss [01:59:45.760 --> 01:59:47.760] It's a dream [01:59:47.760 --> 01:59:49.760] It's a dream [01:59:49.760 --> 01:59:51.760] It's a dream [01:59:51.760 --> 01:59:53.760] It's a dream [01:59:53.760 --> 01:59:55.760] It's a dream [01:59:55.760 --> 02:00:22.760] It's a dream