[00:00.000 --> 00:04.840] This news brief brought to you by the International News Net. [00:04.840 --> 00:10.840] Dr. Ramadan Aga, Palestine's Minister of Agriculture, said Wednesday the January 19th flooding of [00:10.840 --> 00:13.760] Gaza Valley was deliberately caused by Israel. [00:13.760 --> 00:19.400] Dr. Aga said chemical waste Israel had previously dumped in the valley spread when Israel opened [00:19.400 --> 00:22.000] the floodgates of one of its dams. [00:22.000 --> 00:27.000] The minister said losses to agricultural land, the death of livestock, and contamination [00:27.000 --> 00:32.600] of soil and groundwater amounted to more than $1 million in damages. [00:32.600 --> 00:37.200] The Polish Defense Ministry announced that the location of the U.S. Missile Defense Shield [00:37.200 --> 00:41.240] will be moved within 35 miles of the Russian border. [00:41.240 --> 00:46.040] The Patriot missile battery and 100 American soldiers scheduled to arrive in March or April [00:46.040 --> 00:50.620] originally was to be based outside of Warsaw and now will set up in the Baltic Sea city [00:50.620 --> 00:52.060] of Morag. [00:52.060 --> 00:56.520] During the Bush era, Russia had proposed an alternative missile defense system based on [00:56.520 --> 01:00.240] close cooperation between Europe, Russia, and the USA. [01:00.240 --> 01:01.240] It was rejected. [01:01.240 --> 01:05.320] Howard Zinn, author, teacher, and political activist whose book, A People's History of [01:05.320 --> 01:11.800] the United States, became a million-selling alternative to mainstream texts, died on Wednesday. [01:11.800 --> 01:15.480] Mr. Zinn was 87 and died of a heart attack in Santa Monica. [01:15.480 --> 01:20.480] At a time when few politicians dared even call themselves liberal, A People's History [01:20.480 --> 01:22.600] told an openly left-wing story. [01:22.600 --> 01:27.800] Zinn charged Christopher Columbus and other explorers with genocide, picked apart presidents [01:27.800 --> 01:32.640] from Andrew Jackson to Franklin D. Roosevelt, and celebrated workers, feminists, and war [01:32.640 --> 01:33.640] resistors. [01:33.640 --> 01:42.440] He will be missed. [01:42.440 --> 01:46.440] The government has released hundreds of pages of documents about its policy of searching [01:46.440 --> 01:52.580] travelers' laptops and cell phones at U.S. border crossings without suspicion of wrongdoing. [01:52.580 --> 01:57.280] The move was in response to an American Civil Liberties Union Freedom of Information Act [01:57.280 --> 01:58.440] lawsuit. [01:58.440 --> 02:03.660] The records reveal new information about how many devices have been searched, what happens [02:03.660 --> 02:08.440] to travelers' files once they're in the government's possession, and travelers' complaints about [02:08.440 --> 02:11.000] how they were treated by border officials. [02:11.000 --> 02:16.520] In just nine months, customs officials searched over 1,500 electronic devices belonging to [02:16.520 --> 02:19.520] travelers. [02:19.520 --> 02:25.520] The FBI and telecom companies collaborated to routinely violate federal wiretapping laws [02:25.520 --> 02:32.240] for four years as agents got access to reporters' and citizens' phone records using fake emergency [02:32.240 --> 02:35.440] declarations or simply by asking for them. [02:35.440 --> 02:40.640] An internal audit by the Justice Department's Inspector General released Wednesday harshly [02:40.640 --> 02:46.400] criticized how the FBI relied on so-called exigent letters to turn over phone records [02:46.400 --> 02:47.600] immediately. [02:47.600 --> 02:54.280] The letters were a hangover from the investigation into 9-11 and falsely promised telecoms subpoenas [02:54.280 --> 02:55.760] would follow shortly. [02:55.760 --> 03:23.160] The FBI circumvented and, in many cases, violated the electronic unilaterally. [03:23.160 --> 03:44.480] The FBI and telecom companies, however, rejected the request for telecoms subpoenas to be [03:44.480 --> 03:45.480] used. [03:45.480 --> 03:50.480] The FBI and telecom companies, however, rejected the request for telecoms subpoenas to be used [03:50.480 --> 03:53.480] by the FBI and telecom companies. [03:53.480 --> 04:01.480] But the FBI and telecom companies, however, rejected the request for telecoms subpoenas [04:01.480 --> 04:06.780] to be used by the FBI and telecom companies. [04:06.780 --> 04:16.780] The FBI and telecom companies refused to allow the FBI to use the telecoms subpoenas to [04:16.780 --> 04:19.780] along by the sea [04:23.280 --> 04:26.780] and when you run to the sea [04:27.780 --> 04:29.280] the sea will be boiling [04:29.280 --> 04:33.780] and when you run to the sea [04:33.780 --> 04:35.280] it will be boiling [04:35.280 --> 04:37.780] but when you run [04:37.780 --> 04:40.280] run to the sea [04:40.280 --> 04:42.780] it will be boiling at sea [04:42.780 --> 04:47.780] oh, along by the sea [04:50.780 --> 04:51.780] so tell me [04:51.780 --> 04:54.780] down across the man [04:54.780 --> 04:57.780] where you gonna run now [04:57.780 --> 05:01.780] down across the man [05:01.780 --> 05:03.780] I don't know where you gonna run [05:03.780 --> 05:07.780] down across the man [05:07.780 --> 05:09.780] tell me where you gonna run [05:09.780 --> 05:14.780] oh, along by the sea [05:18.780 --> 05:22.780] I would just like to be free [05:22.780 --> 05:24.780] under your collar [05:24.780 --> 05:28.780] man, I would like to be free [05:28.780 --> 05:30.780] underneath your collar, man [05:30.780 --> 05:34.780] I would just like to be free [05:34.780 --> 05:37.780] underneath your collar [05:37.780 --> 05:43.780] oh, along by the sea [05:46.780 --> 05:49.780] you can run but you can't hide [05:51.780 --> 05:53.780] I'm telling you [05:53.780 --> 05:57.780] you can run but you can't hide [05:57.780 --> 05:59.780] I don't know [05:59.780 --> 06:03.780] you can run but you can't hide [06:04.780 --> 06:06.780] down across the man [06:06.780 --> 06:11.780] oh, along by the sea [06:14.780 --> 06:19.780] I said down across the man [06:19.780 --> 06:21.780] where you gonna run [06:21.780 --> 06:24.780] down, down, down, down, down [06:24.780 --> 06:26.780] across the man [06:26.780 --> 06:27.780] where you gonna run [06:27.780 --> 06:31.780] baby, down across the man [06:31.780 --> 06:32.780] I don't know where [06:32.780 --> 06:34.780] I don't know where you gonna run [06:34.780 --> 06:39.780] oh, along by the sea [06:42.780 --> 06:46.780] I said down across the man [06:46.780 --> 06:48.780] All right, we are here. [06:48.780 --> 06:50.780] It's the rule of law. [06:50.780 --> 06:53.780] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, [06:53.780 --> 06:55.780] Eddie Craig, not necessarily [06:55.780 --> 06:56.780] in that order. [06:56.780 --> 06:58.780] And we are taking your calls [06:58.780 --> 07:03.780] tonight, 512-646-1984. [07:03.780 --> 07:06.780] And we have a caller on the line [07:06.780 --> 07:08.780] right now that, Randy, [07:08.780 --> 07:10.780] you had somebody you spoke with [07:10.780 --> 07:11.780] this afternoon that you asked [07:11.780 --> 07:13.780] to start the show off with us. [07:13.780 --> 07:15.780] We've got Art from Alabama. [07:15.780 --> 07:17.780] Art, thanks for calling in. [07:17.780 --> 07:18.780] Thank you very much. [07:18.780 --> 07:19.780] Pleasure to be with you. [07:19.780 --> 07:21.780] So tell us what's going on. [07:21.780 --> 07:23.780] Well, I'd just like to report [07:23.780 --> 07:26.780] a victory in a kangaroo [07:26.780 --> 07:28.780] municipal court. [07:28.780 --> 07:31.780] We all know that southern [07:31.780 --> 07:33.780] municipal courts are [07:33.780 --> 07:35.780] notoriously corrupt. [07:35.780 --> 07:37.780] Unfortunately, I had an encounter [07:37.780 --> 07:38.780] with one, but by God's grace, [07:38.780 --> 07:41.780] I beat the municipal court racket. [07:41.780 --> 07:42.780] And I just thought I would just [07:42.780 --> 07:44.780] share a few things with you all [07:44.780 --> 07:46.780] and perhaps somebody else could [07:46.780 --> 07:48.780] benefit from what I've learned. [07:48.780 --> 07:52.780] I want to make a correction. [07:52.780 --> 07:55.780] You didn't win by God's grace. [07:55.780 --> 07:56.780] You won by doing [07:56.780 --> 07:59.780] what God told you to. [07:59.780 --> 08:01.780] You didn't quit. [08:01.780 --> 08:02.780] You hung in there [08:02.780 --> 08:04.780] and you did your best. [08:04.780 --> 08:06.780] And that I'd like you to talk [08:06.780 --> 08:08.780] about because a lot of people, [08:08.780 --> 08:11.780] when they encounter the system [08:11.780 --> 08:13.780] and they do what they think [08:13.780 --> 08:15.780] is the right thing [08:15.780 --> 08:16.780] and the system doesn't do [08:16.780 --> 08:17.780] what they want, [08:17.780 --> 08:19.780] they feel defeated. [08:19.780 --> 08:21.780] Explain to them what all you had [08:21.780 --> 08:24.780] to go through to get this done. [08:24.780 --> 08:28.780] Well, it consisted of a lot [08:28.780 --> 08:31.780] of efforts, many different kinds [08:31.780 --> 08:34.780] of motions, numerous visits, [08:34.780 --> 08:37.780] trying to get documents, [08:37.780 --> 08:40.780] facing, you know, at every turn, [08:40.780 --> 08:41.780] even in the higher courts, [08:41.780 --> 08:43.780] trying to get people to intercede [08:43.780 --> 08:45.780] and stop the violations [08:45.780 --> 08:48.780] and the abuse of my rights. [08:48.780 --> 08:50.780] Everywhere I went, they said, [08:50.780 --> 08:52.780] it's no use. [08:52.780 --> 08:54.780] The lower courts are notoriously [08:54.780 --> 08:56.780] corrupt. [08:56.780 --> 08:58.780] They're bad boy courts. [08:58.780 --> 09:00.780] There's nothing you can do about it. [09:00.780 --> 09:01.780] That's just the way it is. [09:01.780 --> 09:02.780] They've always been that way [09:02.780 --> 09:03.780] from the beginning. [09:03.780 --> 09:06.780] So just go ahead and take your lumps. [09:06.780 --> 09:08.780] Appeal to a higher court. [09:08.780 --> 09:10.780] And when you get to the circuit court, [09:10.780 --> 09:11.780] then you'll have a jury trial. [09:11.780 --> 09:13.780] You'll have full discovery. [09:13.780 --> 09:16.780] And you may have a chance of prevailing. [09:16.780 --> 09:18.780] They don't tell you that in order to appeal, [09:18.780 --> 09:20.780] you have to post a bond. [09:20.780 --> 09:23.780] And you're subject to all kinds of abuse [09:23.780 --> 09:25.780] in the lower courts. [09:25.780 --> 09:27.780] And a lot of folks, [09:27.780 --> 09:28.780] they just can't make it [09:28.780 --> 09:30.780] to the next higher level. [09:30.780 --> 09:34.780] So I had a little encounter [09:34.780 --> 09:37.780] with the police officers [09:37.780 --> 09:39.780] in the town of Ardmore, Alabama. [09:39.780 --> 09:41.780] It was late on a Saturday night [09:41.780 --> 09:42.780] coming through. [09:42.780 --> 09:44.780] I thought I saw an accident ahead. [09:44.780 --> 09:45.780] A lot of police cars were there. [09:45.780 --> 09:46.780] And I thought, oh, boy, [09:46.780 --> 09:48.780] some poor soul maybe ran off the road. [09:48.780 --> 09:49.780] So I pulled into a parking lot, [09:49.780 --> 09:51.780] private property, [09:51.780 --> 09:52.780] in order to make a telephone call [09:52.780 --> 09:53.780] to my mother. [09:53.780 --> 09:55.780] I wanted to take care of her. [09:55.780 --> 09:57.780] And as I was making the turn [09:57.780 --> 09:58.780] into the parking lot [09:58.780 --> 09:59.780] to let her know that there was [09:59.780 --> 10:02.780] some type of traffic problem ahead, [10:02.780 --> 10:04.780] I noticed that it wasn't an accident, [10:04.780 --> 10:07.780] that it was one of those checkpoints. [10:07.780 --> 10:10.780] So I continued on into the parking lot, [10:10.780 --> 10:12.780] turned around and parked. [10:12.780 --> 10:14.780] And I was making the call [10:14.780 --> 10:17.780] when one of the police officers spotted me. [10:17.780 --> 10:19.780] And I guess it angered him [10:19.780 --> 10:22.780] that I hadn't come through the dragnet. [10:22.780 --> 10:24.780] So he jumps in his patrol car, [10:24.780 --> 10:26.780] stands on the accelerator [10:26.780 --> 10:29.780] with tires spinning and fishtailing. [10:29.780 --> 10:32.780] It was only about 100 yards. [10:32.780 --> 10:33.780] He comes tearing in [10:33.780 --> 10:36.780] and blocks my egress. [10:36.780 --> 10:37.780] So they jump out, [10:37.780 --> 10:38.780] and he was asking, [10:38.780 --> 10:40.780] I asked him for his question, [10:40.780 --> 10:43.780] what's the probable cause for my arrest? [10:43.780 --> 10:44.780] Well, he wouldn't answer, [10:44.780 --> 10:47.780] so I asked him three times. [10:47.780 --> 10:50.780] There was no commission of a felony. [10:50.780 --> 10:53.780] There was no, I hadn't just completed a felony, [10:53.780 --> 10:55.780] and there's no breach of the peace. [10:55.780 --> 10:57.780] And according to Alabama law, [10:57.780 --> 10:58.780] those are the only things [10:58.780 --> 11:01.780] that consist of probable cause. [11:01.780 --> 11:02.780] So he wouldn't answer. [11:02.780 --> 11:03.780] He comes to the window, [11:03.780 --> 11:05.780] he's very uppity, [11:05.780 --> 11:07.780] demanded to know who I was [11:07.780 --> 11:09.780] and ID and so forth. [11:09.780 --> 11:10.780] And I said, listen, [11:10.780 --> 11:12.780] if I furnish you anything, [11:12.780 --> 11:14.780] can it be used against me in court? [11:14.780 --> 11:16.780] He said, no, of course not. [11:16.780 --> 11:17.780] Well, it's a lie. [11:17.780 --> 11:18.780] I mean, it's the only thing they had to go on, [11:18.780 --> 11:20.780] your words and documents and things. [11:20.780 --> 11:23.780] So I said, well, upon advice of counsel, [11:23.780 --> 11:26.780] I've been told never to talk to the police, [11:26.780 --> 11:27.780] never to answer questions, [11:27.780 --> 11:28.780] and to remain silent. [11:28.780 --> 11:30.780] And I choose to exercise my right to do so, [11:30.780 --> 11:33.780] and I will say nothing further. [11:33.780 --> 11:34.780] Well, that angered him, [11:34.780 --> 11:35.780] get out of the car. [11:35.780 --> 11:36.780] So I got out, [11:36.780 --> 11:39.780] I was non-resistant, [11:39.780 --> 11:42.780] and kept pestering me with all kinds of questions, [11:42.780 --> 11:44.780] and I just refused to answer. [11:44.780 --> 11:45.780] Many calls for backup, [11:45.780 --> 11:46.780] second cop comes over, [11:46.780 --> 11:47.780] same style, [11:47.780 --> 11:48.780] Hollywood style, [11:48.780 --> 11:50.780] screeching wheels and everything. [11:50.780 --> 11:51.780] He comes out, [11:51.780 --> 11:53.780] and he demands to know all kinds of things. [11:53.780 --> 11:55.780] And I said the same thing. [11:55.780 --> 11:57.780] I choose to remain silent. [11:57.780 --> 11:58.780] And so they looked at each other [11:58.780 --> 12:02.780] after seeing that I wasn't going to speak and said, [12:02.780 --> 12:04.780] what are we going to arrest him for? [12:04.780 --> 12:05.780] The guy said, well, [12:05.780 --> 12:06.780] we don't know who he is, [12:06.780 --> 12:08.780] and he won't talk. [12:08.780 --> 12:11.780] So I guess we're just going to have to arrest him on that basis. [12:11.780 --> 12:14.780] So the second cop advanced toward me, [12:14.780 --> 12:15.780] and he had his hand on his gun. [12:15.780 --> 12:17.780] Well, he had parked his car, [12:17.780 --> 12:21.780] so his lights were in my face, [12:21.780 --> 12:22.780] and I couldn't really see, [12:22.780 --> 12:25.780] but I could see enough of him that he was reaching onto his belt [12:25.780 --> 12:27.780] and was drawing something. [12:27.780 --> 12:29.780] I assumed it was his pistol. [12:29.780 --> 12:31.780] He says, are you armed? [12:31.780 --> 12:34.780] Well, I said I was not going to respond, [12:34.780 --> 12:35.780] but then I thought, [12:35.780 --> 12:36.780] well, here we are, [12:36.780 --> 12:41.780] two guys who are pumped up in a parking lot in the middle of nowhere, [12:41.780 --> 12:42.780] 12 o'clock at night, [12:42.780 --> 12:47.780] and who knows what type of scenario they would describe occurred. [12:47.780 --> 12:49.780] So I said yes. [12:49.780 --> 12:52.780] Well, I always carry a small little pocket pistol, [12:52.780 --> 12:54.780] about 34 inches long. [12:54.780 --> 12:56.780] So they reached in the pocket, [12:56.780 --> 12:57.780] take that out, take the wallet, [12:57.780 --> 12:59.780] go through the wallet, [12:59.780 --> 13:02.780] and then they say, [13:02.780 --> 13:06.780] well, we're not going to arrest you for just remaining silent [13:06.780 --> 13:08.780] or not identifying yourself, [13:08.780 --> 13:09.780] but now we've got really something. [13:09.780 --> 13:12.780] You've got a little weapon here, [13:12.780 --> 13:13.780] and you don't have your permit. [13:13.780 --> 13:17.780] It's a concealed carry and all that kind of stuff. [13:17.780 --> 13:18.780] So then they handcuffed me, [13:18.780 --> 13:19.780] and they ransacked the car, [13:19.780 --> 13:20.780] called a tow company, [13:20.780 --> 13:23.780] and they impound the car. [13:23.780 --> 13:25.780] It's on private property, by the way, [13:25.780 --> 13:29.780] and again, even the charge that they allegedly brought against me [13:29.780 --> 13:33.780] did not rise to the level of a breach of the peace. [13:33.780 --> 13:35.780] So they still had no probable cause, [13:35.780 --> 13:38.780] so they took my property, seized it, [13:38.780 --> 13:40.780] and then they took me off to jail. [13:40.780 --> 13:44.780] All kinds of humiliations, as usual. [13:44.780 --> 13:47.780] Put me in a very filthy cell. [13:47.780 --> 13:49.780] You know, the commode didn't work [13:49.780 --> 13:52.780] and had human excrement in it and so forth, [13:52.780 --> 13:54.780] and it's supposed to be a nonsmoking environment. [13:54.780 --> 13:56.780] I don't particularly care for smoke, [13:56.780 --> 13:57.780] so I can only smoke myself. [13:57.780 --> 14:00.780] I'm not a nonsmoker, and it did bother me, [14:00.780 --> 14:03.780] but nevertheless, that's what I endured until the morning. [14:03.780 --> 14:05.780] Well, then they were going to release me, [14:05.780 --> 14:10.780] and all the way from the very beginning, [14:10.780 --> 14:14.780] I had been asking for an immediate probable cause hearing [14:14.780 --> 14:16.780] before a magistrate. [14:16.780 --> 14:19.780] That's the law in Alabama. [14:19.780 --> 14:21.780] I don't know about other places, but it is here. [14:21.780 --> 14:22.780] If you're arrested without a warrant, [14:22.780 --> 14:24.780] you must be taken immediately. [14:24.780 --> 14:25.780] Well, I kept asking, and he said, [14:25.780 --> 14:28.780] Hi, you're not going until we're finished with you. [14:28.780 --> 14:29.780] You know, you're going to be booked, [14:29.780 --> 14:31.780] you're going to this and that and everything. [14:31.780 --> 14:34.780] So after about a half a dozen requests, [14:34.780 --> 14:36.780] I knew I wasn't going to see a magistrate. [14:36.780 --> 14:39.780] Well, the next morning, they said they were going to release me, [14:39.780 --> 14:42.780] and they didn't give me a copy of the complaint. [14:42.780 --> 14:44.780] I didn't have one. [14:44.780 --> 14:46.780] They wouldn't give me any other documents [14:46.780 --> 14:49.780] nor receipt for the gun or anything else. [14:49.780 --> 14:50.780] Take me over to the magistrate. [14:50.780 --> 14:52.780] The magistrate didn't have a probable cause hearing [14:52.780 --> 14:55.780] because she had nothing to make a probable cause hearing on. [14:55.780 --> 14:56.780] The officer never showed up. [14:56.780 --> 14:58.780] There was nobody there. [14:58.780 --> 15:00.780] So she just goes ahead and applies [15:00.780 --> 15:03.780] or has me to execute an appearance bond. [15:03.780 --> 15:06.780] Of course, my complaints didn't amount to anything [15:06.780 --> 15:08.780] because they don't even know the law, they don't care. [15:08.780 --> 15:10.780] This is the way they do business there. [15:10.780 --> 15:14.780] So she overcharged by $450 without a probable cause hearing. [15:14.780 --> 15:16.780] You're not supposed to be charging more than $300, [15:16.780 --> 15:19.780] $750. [15:19.780 --> 15:22.780] And I wasn't able, again, to get the complaint or anything. [15:22.780 --> 15:26.780] So she sets the arraignment for the 12th of August. [15:26.780 --> 15:29.780] Well, on the 3rd, which is about a week later, [15:29.780 --> 15:31.780] I go back to see if I can get a copy of the complaint. [15:31.780 --> 15:34.780] Well, I had to go to the police station. [15:34.780 --> 15:36.780] They finally gave me one, [15:36.780 --> 15:40.780] and it hadn't been executed until five days after my release. [15:40.780 --> 15:42.780] Well, it made it invalid on its face. [15:42.780 --> 15:44.780] Plus, there are a lot of other things I won't go into, [15:44.780 --> 15:47.780] but it was a complete sham. [15:47.780 --> 15:51.780] The complaint was anything but valid. [15:51.780 --> 15:54.780] And the police chief would not give me any other documents [15:54.780 --> 15:56.780] like oaths of office and other things I requested, [15:56.780 --> 15:59.780] said that if I wanted anything, I'd have to get a lawyer. [15:59.780 --> 16:01.780] Well, he doesn't give it to individuals. [16:01.780 --> 16:05.780] And if I want anything, I'd probably have to go and get it subpoenaed. [16:05.780 --> 16:08.780] So I go over to the clerk's office or magistrate's office [16:08.780 --> 16:10.780] to ask if she could do subpoena. [16:10.780 --> 16:12.780] She said, I'm authorized to do so, [16:12.780 --> 16:15.780] so I'd like you to issue one for me, get some things I'm unable to get. [16:15.780 --> 16:17.780] I need something for my defense. [16:17.780 --> 16:19.780] I said, I'm not going to do one for you. [16:19.780 --> 16:21.780] I said, excuse me? [16:21.780 --> 16:23.780] She said, I'm not going to give you one. [16:23.780 --> 16:25.780] You mean I don't have a right to compulsory process? [16:25.780 --> 16:27.780] Well, only if you have a lawyer. [16:27.780 --> 16:31.780] I said, well, can you show me the law that you're basing that decision on? [16:31.780 --> 16:33.780] And she says, no. [16:33.780 --> 16:36.780] So I said, well, why don't you call the town attorney? [16:36.780 --> 16:39.780] So she picks up the phone, did a call to the town attorney. [16:39.780 --> 16:41.780] She calls the police to come and arrest me. [16:41.780 --> 16:42.780] Okay, hold on. [16:42.780 --> 16:43.780] We're about to go to break. [16:43.780 --> 16:44.780] All right. [16:44.780 --> 16:45.780] All right, we'll be back. [16:45.780 --> 16:49.780] We've got our friend Art on the line telling the story. [16:49.780 --> 16:51.780] We've got Mark Adams as well. [16:51.780 --> 16:59.780] And John from Texas will be taking your calls shortly. [16:59.780 --> 17:03.780] You feel tired when talking about important topics like money and politics? [17:03.780 --> 17:04.780] Sorry. [17:04.780 --> 17:06.780] Are you confused by words like the Constitution or the Federal Reserve? [17:06.780 --> 17:07.780] What? [17:07.780 --> 17:12.780] If so, you may be diagnosed with the deadliest disease known today, stupidity. [17:12.780 --> 17:15.780] Hi, my name is Steve Holt, and like millions of other Americans, [17:15.780 --> 17:18.780] I was diagnosed with stupidity at an early age. [17:18.780 --> 17:21.780] I had no idea that the number one cause of the disease [17:21.780 --> 17:24.780] is found in almost every home in America, the television. 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[17:59.780 --> 18:17.780] Music [18:17.780 --> 18:19.780] Okay, we are back. [18:19.780 --> 18:23.780] They do not have the answers. [18:23.780 --> 18:27.780] We are going back to Art in Alabama. [18:27.780 --> 18:29.780] Go ahead, Art, continue. [18:29.780 --> 18:33.780] Okay, so anyway, I was denied compulsory process. [18:33.780 --> 18:39.780] So I asked for the law upon which the magistrate based that decision [18:39.780 --> 18:43.780] and asked if they would call the town attorney and get the site so that I could read it. [18:43.780 --> 18:48.780] So instead of doing that, she picks up the phone to call the police to come arrest me. [18:48.780 --> 18:50.780] Who knows what the charge would have been. [18:50.780 --> 18:52.780] But I had a fellow there who was a retired friend of mine, [18:52.780 --> 18:57.780] so both of us made an exit so that we wouldn't be caught up in some kind of a false charge. [18:57.780 --> 19:03.780] And just as we were getting in our vehicle, the police officer came, you know, flying around the corner. [19:03.780 --> 19:11.780] So the arraignment was continued to another date by the judge for no reason given, [19:11.780 --> 19:13.780] but they just wanted to run out the clock. [19:13.780 --> 19:18.780] So the first arraignment or first appearance in court was on the 26th of August. [19:18.780 --> 19:23.780] Well, I get there in the morning, and lo and behold, they called out the local SWAT team. [19:23.780 --> 19:27.780] They had a show of force like I'd never seen at a traffic court before. [19:27.780 --> 19:33.780] They had guys with M-16s, full automatic weapons guarding the door, [19:33.780 --> 19:36.780] everybody glaring and gritting their teeth and so forth. [19:36.780 --> 19:40.780] And I'd never made any threats or anything to anyone. [19:40.780 --> 19:46.780] But I suppose if you stand on your rights and you mention anything about the Constitution, [19:46.780 --> 19:50.780] I suppose you become one of those domestic terrorists. [19:50.780 --> 19:54.780] Anyhow, I got to the door of the courtroom, and they wouldn't let me in [19:54.780 --> 19:58.780] until I'd gone through a general exploratory search, no warrant. [19:58.780 --> 20:01.780] And in Alabama, that's a no-no. [20:01.780 --> 20:07.780] There's only very few exceptions to a warrantless search in Alabama. [20:07.780 --> 20:10.780] And of course, they ignored the law, and they did as they pleased. [20:10.780 --> 20:15.780] So once inside, the proceedings began, and I thought it was going to be arraignment. [20:15.780 --> 20:17.780] Well, the judge never looks at the rule book. [20:17.780 --> 20:19.780] He didn't know how to clue. [20:19.780 --> 20:23.780] Never introduced himself, never read a complaint, never had a complaint, [20:23.780 --> 20:27.780] never said what my charge was, never cited the law that I allegedly broke, [20:27.780 --> 20:30.780] but said, bring in the witnesses for starting the trial. [20:30.780 --> 20:32.780] I said, what are you talking about trial? [20:32.780 --> 20:34.780] I've gotten no notice of any trial. [20:34.780 --> 20:36.780] And he said, stand up. [20:36.780 --> 20:38.780] I stood up, and he said, no, raise your hand. [20:38.780 --> 20:40.780] You're going to swear you in. [20:40.780 --> 20:41.780] I said, well, you don't have any jurisdiction. [20:41.780 --> 20:43.780] I said, I challenge jurisdiction. [20:43.780 --> 20:45.780] I said, we need to discuss that first. [20:45.780 --> 20:47.780] And he said, raise your hand. [20:47.780 --> 20:48.780] I wouldn't raise my hand. [20:48.780 --> 20:52.780] So he says, under his breath, he said, I've never had anybody do this before. [20:52.780 --> 20:54.780] And I said, I'm not swearing anything. [20:54.780 --> 20:56.780] I said, I'm not even prepared for any trial. [20:56.780 --> 20:58.780] I said, this is supposed to be an arraignment. [20:58.780 --> 21:00.780] He said, oh, you want an arraignment. [21:00.780 --> 21:01.780] Want an arraignment? [21:01.780 --> 21:04.780] They're mandatory, sir, under the rules of procedure. [21:04.780 --> 21:08.780] Well, then he fumbled around, and a lot of other things happened I won't go into, [21:08.780 --> 21:11.780] but nevertheless, the court was in total disarray. [21:11.780 --> 21:13.780] Very dysfunctional. [21:13.780 --> 21:16.780] And they decide, well, we'll just reschedule. [21:16.780 --> 21:20.780] So in the meantime, rescheduling another arraignment, [21:20.780 --> 21:26.780] I filed a lot of different papers, motions, and things, notices to the town mayor, [21:26.780 --> 21:33.780] which I learned his authority superseded that of the municipal court judge. [21:33.780 --> 21:35.780] He can override anything. [21:35.780 --> 21:37.780] And so he was the one that really should be targeted. [21:37.780 --> 21:42.780] I don't know whether it's the same way in Texas, but it is here in Alabama. [21:42.780 --> 21:43.780] So I sent him notices. [21:43.780 --> 21:51.780] I sent also a notice of misprision to the people in the county, to the district attorney, [21:51.780 --> 21:57.780] the two district judges, the two circuit judges, the sheriff, coroner, I mean, everybody. [21:57.780 --> 22:00.780] And it made no difference, even though everything was documented. [22:00.780 --> 22:02.780] They said, well, it's the bad boy court. [22:02.780 --> 22:03.780] Just take your lumps. [22:03.780 --> 22:04.780] Come on up here. [22:04.780 --> 22:05.780] We'll give you a good trial. [22:05.780 --> 22:07.780] Well, I don't believe in that. [22:07.780 --> 22:10.780] People need to have justice from the first instance. [22:10.780 --> 22:16.780] So we just went on to another couple continuances where they were trying to drag it out, [22:16.780 --> 22:19.780] and the supporters that came to the court, [22:19.780 --> 22:22.780] I was very fortunate to have some fine folks that came. [22:22.780 --> 22:25.780] We had about 60 people to show. [22:25.780 --> 22:27.780] And they were hoping that they would get discouraged [22:27.780 --> 22:30.780] and no one would show and give me continued support. [22:30.780 --> 22:33.780] So the next schedule was 23rd of September. [22:33.780 --> 22:35.780] I did hire a court reporter. [22:35.780 --> 22:38.780] I'm glad I did because I went in and they basically said, [22:38.780 --> 22:40.780] well, we're going to say that you're not guilty, [22:40.780 --> 22:46.780] but we're not going to hear the things about the jurisdictional challenges or due process or anything. [22:46.780 --> 22:49.780] And again, they never read my charge. [22:49.780 --> 22:54.780] The guy's trying to get me to plead with no charge mentioned. [22:54.780 --> 22:57.780] And so, of course, I wouldn't cooperate. [22:57.780 --> 22:59.780] So he entered a plea. [22:59.780 --> 23:01.780] I objected for reasons. [23:01.780 --> 23:04.780] We weren't going to all that, but he said, you're not going to say another word. [23:04.780 --> 23:07.780] I was trying to make the record for some things. [23:07.780 --> 23:08.780] And he said, you say another word. [23:08.780 --> 23:11.780] He says, you're going to have to be, you're going to be thrown out of court. [23:11.780 --> 23:13.780] In fact, he says, I am ordering you out of court. [23:13.780 --> 23:16.780] He says, Bailiff, come over here and stand behind this guy. [23:16.780 --> 23:18.780] If he doesn't get his stuff up off the desk and get out of here, [23:18.780 --> 23:22.780] he says, you know, we're going to, you take him out. [23:22.780 --> 23:25.780] So such is justice in, you know, kangaroo courts. [23:25.780 --> 23:32.780] Well, since then, I filed all kinds of paperwork and the prosecutor never responded, [23:32.780 --> 23:34.780] never a hearing, nothing. [23:34.780 --> 23:36.780] They violated all the rules of procedure. [23:36.780 --> 23:37.780] They don't care. [23:37.780 --> 23:40.780] So finally, I got completely fed up with it and I said to myself, [23:40.780 --> 23:43.780] well, we're going to the next stage. [23:43.780 --> 23:49.780] Stage two was for me to go and file a very substantial 52-page complaint [23:49.780 --> 23:53.780] in U.S. District Court in Birmingham. [23:53.780 --> 24:01.780] And it was pursuant to Title 42, Section 1983 and 88, [24:01.780 --> 24:04.780] Title 18, Section 242 and so on. [24:04.780 --> 24:06.780] It was for civil rights violations. [24:06.780 --> 24:10.780] And so I named all the players, including the municipality, [24:10.780 --> 24:15.780] which I've learned through my research has no immunity at all, zero. [24:15.780 --> 24:21.780] So I named them and I filed a notice in demand [24:21.780 --> 24:26.780] telling them I was not going to appear for any jam proceedings of a trial. [24:26.780 --> 24:29.780] I gave all the reasons why and a whole lot of case law that I studied. [24:29.780 --> 24:30.780] It was 15 pages. [24:30.780 --> 24:37.780] And I attached as an exhibit the unannounced complaint that I had filed in federal court. [24:37.780 --> 24:41.780] They didn't know it was coming and they had got a copy. [24:41.780 --> 24:45.780] Well, they saw the light when they felt the heat. [24:45.780 --> 24:49.780] All of a sudden, they realized that they had pushed me a little too far [24:49.780 --> 24:55.780] and that now they were in big trouble because I was, I'm assuming, for $1.7 million. [24:55.780 --> 24:58.780] Everything was listed and supported. [24:58.780 --> 24:59.780] Why? [24:59.780 --> 25:01.780] Plus there's going to be tentative damages and so on. [25:01.780 --> 25:05.780] And they realized that this was not going to be very fun [25:05.780 --> 25:06.780] and they better do something about it. [25:06.780 --> 25:11.780] So they immediately dropped the case, told me I could come pick up my weapon [25:11.780 --> 25:17.780] and pick up the bail money, the bond money over at the PlayStation at my convenience, [25:17.780 --> 25:19.780] which I did yesterday. [25:19.780 --> 25:22.780] I picked it up and the police officer was very nervous. [25:22.780 --> 25:24.780] He could hardly write. [25:24.780 --> 25:25.780] He made all kinds of mistakes. [25:25.780 --> 25:27.780] Had to run out to the parking lot to finish the receipt [25:27.780 --> 25:29.780] and he put down some of the things he should have. [25:29.780 --> 25:36.780] We had a cameraman there and they told me they didn't want him to film anything inside the police department. [25:36.780 --> 25:39.780] He continued to fall anyway and they were so nervous they didn't tell him to get out. [25:39.780 --> 25:42.780] They were afraid I would put another count on my complaint. [25:42.780 --> 25:44.780] They had 30-some counts. [25:44.780 --> 25:48.780] So anyhow, that's where we stand. [25:48.780 --> 25:54.780] And I had sent a letter to them demanding that they give me a final order, [25:54.780 --> 25:56.780] the court order, the final court order. [25:56.780 --> 26:00.780] They told me that it had been dropped, but I never got the court order. [26:00.780 --> 26:04.780] I told them I want it and also I want my records completely expunged. [26:04.780 --> 26:10.780] I don't want any stuff on their records at all pertaining to this incident [26:10.780 --> 26:14.780] since they dropped it and they didn't have to stick it in and they admitted it. [26:14.780 --> 26:18.780] And I wanted it certified by the chief of police that it had all been expunged. [26:18.780 --> 26:21.780] Well, they haven't done that so I guess we're going to have to knock heads a little bit on that one. [26:21.780 --> 26:24.780] But I did get everything else just in today's mail. [26:24.780 --> 26:30.780] I got a copy of the final order and that's where we stand. [26:30.780 --> 26:34.780] And now they're being served this week by certified mail [26:34.780 --> 26:38.780] from the clerk of the U.S. District Court in Birmingham, Alabama. [26:38.780 --> 26:42.780] And then we're going to go into discovery and see where it goes from there. [26:42.780 --> 26:46.780] But the fact that they've already admitted that they had no jurisdiction from the beginning [26:46.780 --> 26:52.780] and I have tons of proof of what I have tried to resolve, [26:52.780 --> 26:55.780] peace and lawfully, and they've refused. [26:55.780 --> 27:01.780] Yes, Art sent me an email saying that the prosecuting attorney told him that [27:01.780 --> 27:05.780] did he send you a letter to the effect that he was dismissing? [27:05.780 --> 27:06.780] Yes. [27:06.780 --> 27:07.780] Good. [27:07.780 --> 27:12.780] Pro-security or prosecutee Latin for hate. [27:12.780 --> 27:17.780] Sent you a letter saying that they had no subject matter jurisdiction. [27:17.780 --> 27:21.780] No, what they said is that the complaint was invalid. [27:21.780 --> 27:23.780] Well, what's the difference? [27:23.780 --> 27:27.780] They don't have jurisdiction unless you have a valid complaint before the court. [27:27.780 --> 27:28.780] Right. [27:28.780 --> 27:30.780] That's kind of shooting themselves in the foot. [27:30.780 --> 27:32.780] Actually shot himself in the head. [27:32.780 --> 27:33.780] Right. [27:32.780 --> 27:34.780] No subject matter jurisdiction. [27:34.780 --> 27:37.780] There's no immunity anywhere for anybody. [27:37.780 --> 27:40.780] Correct. [27:40.780 --> 27:43.780] So this is good news. [27:43.780 --> 27:45.780] Well. [27:45.780 --> 27:49.780] I'm just wondering why you were so cheap, only 1.7. [27:49.780 --> 27:56.780] Well, I guess because they didn't cut my leg off or something, you know. [27:56.780 --> 28:00.780] But you did at least ask for that face value gold and silver coin, right? [28:00.780 --> 28:03.780] Oh, absolutely. [28:03.780 --> 28:08.780] The punitive damages, you know, can be fairly substantial. [28:08.780 --> 28:10.780] So I left that up to the jury. [28:10.780 --> 28:15.780] Of course, as I put down the 1.7, I said either more or less as may be decided by the jury. [28:15.780 --> 28:17.780] So that was just kind of my ballpark figure. [28:17.780 --> 28:20.780] Now, someone asked me, how did you come up with a figure for, oh, [28:20.780 --> 28:24.780] what was it, $850,000 for being incarcerated for a day? [28:24.780 --> 28:26.780] I said, well, I heard of a case. [28:26.780 --> 28:28.780] Charles Stilff is trying to find the site. [28:28.780 --> 28:29.780] It was down in Florida. [28:29.780 --> 28:33.780] Travisette, Travisette in Florida, $76,000 an hour. [28:33.780 --> 28:34.780] There you go. [28:34.780 --> 28:37.780] No, it's 1,065 a minute. [28:37.780 --> 28:39.780] This one was a different one. [28:39.780 --> 28:41.780] It was $25,000 for 20 minutes. [28:41.780 --> 28:45.780] Twenty-three minutes and it's Trezevant versus City of Tampa. [28:45.780 --> 28:48.780] It's 1,065 a minute is what it calculates out to [28:48.780 --> 28:51.780] because that's what I used to calculate mine against Rockville. [28:51.780 --> 28:52.780] Wonderful. [28:52.780 --> 28:54.780] Well, I'll get that for you later. [28:54.780 --> 28:57.780] I didn't quite catch you with something. [28:57.780 --> 29:00.780] The situation is very weak here, so I didn't quite catch that site. [29:00.780 --> 29:01.780] But anyway. [29:01.780 --> 29:03.780] Yeah, we'll email it to you. [29:03.780 --> 29:06.780] Okay, terrific. [29:06.780 --> 29:08.780] So anyway, that's where it stands. [29:08.780 --> 29:14.780] And right now I am going to consider a RICO suit. [29:14.780 --> 29:18.780] Once I've done discovery, got enough information. [29:18.780 --> 29:22.780] And I'm going to consider a state tort action for false arrest, [29:22.780 --> 29:27.780] imprisonment, assault and battery. [29:27.780 --> 29:28.780] Aggravated assault. [29:28.780 --> 29:29.780] They were wearing pistols. [29:29.780 --> 29:31.780] You should sue all the jailers. [29:31.780 --> 29:36.780] And aggravated kidnapping. [29:36.780 --> 29:40.780] Okay, we'll bring Mark up when we come back and get his take on this. [29:40.780 --> 29:42.780] Yeah, this is incredible. [29:42.780 --> 29:44.780] Boy, things are getting really bad down there in Alabama. [29:44.780 --> 29:59.780] All right, we'll be right back. [29:59.780 --> 30:02.780] Are you the plaintiff or defendant in a lawsuit? [30:02.780 --> 30:06.780] Win your case without an attorney with Jurisdictionary, [30:06.780 --> 30:09.780] the affordable, easy to understand, 4-CD course [30:09.780 --> 30:14.780] that will show you how in 24 hours, step-by-step. [30:14.780 --> 30:17.780] If you have a lawyer, know what your lawyer should be doing. [30:17.780 --> 30:21.780] If you don't have a lawyer, know what you should do for yourself. [30:21.780 --> 30:24.780] Thousands have won with our step-by-step course. [30:24.780 --> 30:26.780] And now you can too. [30:26.780 --> 30:29.780] Jurisdictionary was created by a licensed attorney [30:29.780 --> 30:32.780] with 22 years of case-winning experience. [30:32.780 --> 30:34.780] Even if you're not in a lawsuit, [30:34.780 --> 30:37.780] you can learn what everyone should understand [30:37.780 --> 30:42.780] about the principles and practices that control our American courts. [30:42.780 --> 30:46.780] You'll receive our audio classroom, video seminar, tutorials, [30:46.780 --> 30:51.780] forms for civil cases, pro se tactics, and much more. [30:51.780 --> 30:55.780] Please visit ruleoflawradio.com and click on the banner [30:55.780 --> 31:00.780] or call toll-free, 866-LAW-EZ. [31:00.780 --> 31:07.780] Yes, Mr. Officer, you're taking the line at hand. [31:07.780 --> 31:11.780] Won't you follow the law of the land? [31:11.780 --> 31:14.780] I don't understand. [31:14.780 --> 31:17.780] Your job is to protect our service. [31:17.780 --> 31:20.780] Not be on the beans. [31:20.780 --> 31:22.780] Officer! [31:22.780 --> 31:25.780] When you're gonna stop abuse, [31:25.780 --> 31:28.780] you know how I work. [31:28.780 --> 31:31.780] When you're gonna stop abuse, [31:31.780 --> 31:34.780] you know how I work. [31:34.780 --> 31:36.780] When you're gonna stop abuse, [31:36.780 --> 31:39.780] you know how I work. [31:39.780 --> 31:42.780] When you're gonna stop abuse, [31:42.780 --> 31:45.780] you know how I work. [31:45.780 --> 31:48.780] So please, Mr. Michael and each officer, [31:48.780 --> 31:50.780] not to abuse the power. [31:50.780 --> 31:53.780] Send a request to the leaders [31:53.780 --> 31:56.780] and ask them of all officers. [31:56.780 --> 31:59.780] Tell them to uphold the law. [31:59.780 --> 32:01.780] Please don't abuse this power. [32:01.780 --> 32:03.780] Please don't abuse. [32:03.780 --> 32:07.780] You know, it just doesn't do any good to ask these people nicely. [32:07.780 --> 32:11.780] It just doesn't do any good to ask these people nicely. [32:11.780 --> 32:13.780] It doesn't work. [32:13.780 --> 32:16.780] You know, I'm just not in agreement [32:16.780 --> 32:18.780] with trying to work with these people. [32:18.780 --> 32:22.780] I'm not in agreement with shaking hands with the man. [32:22.780 --> 32:26.780] I'm not in agreement with, you know, [32:26.780 --> 32:30.780] trying to work with them and get them to be nice. [32:30.780 --> 32:32.780] That's not the way it works, okay? [32:32.780 --> 32:34.780] Number one, they're totally out of control. [32:34.780 --> 32:36.780] That wouldn't work anyway. [32:36.780 --> 32:42.780] Number two, posture-wise, it doesn't make any sense [32:42.780 --> 32:47.780] because they are our public servants, okay? [32:47.780 --> 32:50.780] With an emphasis on the word servant. [32:50.780 --> 32:53.780] They're friends with your servants, okay? [32:53.780 --> 32:56.780] They're not our peers. [32:56.780 --> 32:58.780] They're our servants. [32:58.780 --> 33:02.780] I'm not in agreement with trying to work together with them, all right? [33:02.780 --> 33:04.780] They do what we say, and if they don't, [33:04.780 --> 33:06.780] we come down on like a ton of bricks. [33:06.780 --> 33:10.780] And don't call us, we'll call you, okay? [33:10.780 --> 33:13.780] That's how I feel about the man, all right? [33:13.780 --> 33:16.780] You know, no disrespect intended, [33:16.780 --> 33:20.780] but you know, it's just like we've got to have a posture here, [33:20.780 --> 33:23.780] and I'm not saying to be rude or mean to them, [33:23.780 --> 33:26.780] but just to have that posture in your head [33:26.780 --> 33:30.780] because otherwise they're just going to take over, [33:30.780 --> 33:32.780] and they're just going to have their way. [33:32.780 --> 33:34.780] They're going to have our way with us, [33:34.780 --> 33:36.780] and they'll end up being on top. [33:36.780 --> 33:38.780] It's completely reversed right now. [33:38.780 --> 33:39.780] We've got to change it. [33:39.780 --> 33:41.780] Okay, we're going to try to get, [33:41.780 --> 33:45.780] we've been having some trouble with Art's connection. [33:45.780 --> 33:48.780] He's dropped off the line and called back in like six times over the break, [33:48.780 --> 33:51.780] so I'm hoping that we have him back now. [33:51.780 --> 33:52.780] Art, are you there? [33:52.780 --> 33:53.780] Yes, I am. [33:53.780 --> 33:54.780] I'm here. [33:54.780 --> 33:57.780] Okay, and we're going to bring Mark Adams on. [33:57.780 --> 34:01.780] Okay, Mark, what is your take on all this? [34:01.780 --> 34:05.780] Hey, Art, did you say you consented to a search? [34:05.780 --> 34:06.780] I considered what? [34:06.780 --> 34:08.780] Did you consent to a search? [34:08.780 --> 34:09.780] No, I did not. [34:09.780 --> 34:11.780] I didn't consent to anything. [34:11.780 --> 34:14.780] Okay, well, how did they end up searching you? [34:14.780 --> 34:17.780] Which time were you referring to? [34:17.780 --> 34:19.780] I'm talking about when you were originally pulled over. [34:19.780 --> 34:21.780] I didn't consent. [34:21.780 --> 34:22.780] They did it anyway. [34:22.780 --> 34:25.780] All right, so they searched you anyway, even though you had asked them. [34:25.780 --> 34:27.780] I think that Mark's trying to ask you how did that happen. [34:27.780 --> 34:30.780] Did they yank you out of the car or did they willing? [34:30.780 --> 34:31.780] Oh, no, no, no. [34:31.780 --> 34:33.780] I mean, how did this go down? [34:33.780 --> 34:34.780] I mean, did they ask you? [34:34.780 --> 34:35.780] Did you say no? [34:35.780 --> 34:38.780] Did they just make you get out anyway at the point of a gun? [34:38.780 --> 34:39.780] I mean, how did all this go down? [34:39.780 --> 34:41.780] Yeah, he ordered me out of the car. [34:41.780 --> 34:50.780] Then when I got out, I told him what I explained to Randy that I exercised my right to remain silent. [34:50.780 --> 34:51.780] I wouldn't speak. [34:51.780 --> 34:55.780] So he continued to try and get me to speak and threatening and so forth. [34:55.780 --> 34:56.780] And then he called for backup. [34:56.780 --> 35:01.780] And then when the backup came, the second cop did the same thing. [35:01.780 --> 35:05.780] He gets out and he's demanding this, that, and the other thing. [35:05.780 --> 35:08.780] And I told him, I said, I choose to remain silent. [35:08.780 --> 35:13.780] And that's when they looked at each other and said, well, what are we going to arrest him for? [35:13.780 --> 35:19.780] And then they said, well, I guess because he won't speak and we don't know who he is. [35:19.780 --> 35:21.780] So I guess that's going to be good enough for us. [35:21.780 --> 35:24.780] But, of course, that doesn't meet probable cause. [35:24.780 --> 35:31.780] But then that's when the fellow put his hand on his gun and advanced toward me, I guess, to make the arrest. [35:31.780 --> 35:35.780] And then he stopped just short and said, are you armed? [35:35.780 --> 35:37.780] And that's when I had to make a decision. [35:37.780 --> 35:41.780] Well, these guys are acting so crazy and I better say yes. [35:41.780 --> 35:42.780] So I just said yes. [35:42.780 --> 35:43.780] I didn't say anything else. [35:43.780 --> 35:50.780] And then they reached in the pocket, took my weapon, which is a small pocket pistol, about three or four inches long. [35:50.780 --> 35:54.780] And then they took the wallet and went through the wallet and everything. [35:54.780 --> 35:56.780] And I didn't see them taking any money. [35:56.780 --> 35:58.780] They put it back in. [35:58.780 --> 35:59.780] And then they got in the car. [35:59.780 --> 36:01.780] Then they put their handcuffs on me. [36:01.780 --> 36:05.780] And then the fellow then got in the car and just started ransacking. [36:05.780 --> 36:11.780] The other fellow called for the tow truck, which was just around the corner, one of the good friends and buddies, [36:11.780 --> 36:17.780] who bragged later that he makes an awful lot of money on towing cars and impounding them from people for the municipal court. [36:17.780 --> 36:18.780] Oh, yeah. [36:18.780 --> 36:20.780] He told me, he said, that's a good business. [36:20.780 --> 36:21.780] You ought to consider that, Mr. Hirsch. [36:21.780 --> 36:24.780] He said, you know, you do real well. [36:24.780 --> 36:29.780] He said, you know, you can get all cash and none of that and so forth. [36:29.780 --> 36:35.780] I mean, I'm sure you're aware that the U.S. Supreme Court has said you don't have to identify yourself to police. [36:35.780 --> 36:46.780] And also, at the same time, there's been a few states which have passed laws saying it's a criminal act to fail to identify yourself to police, [36:46.780 --> 36:52.780] because quite often the U.S. Supreme Court will remind people what their rights are. [36:52.780 --> 36:56.780] Not really anymore, but, you know, they used to 20, 30 years ago. [36:56.780 --> 36:57.780] Yeah, I remember that. [36:57.780 --> 37:06.780] And then the state will go a few years later and pass a law directly in contravention of the U.S. Supreme Court decision. [37:06.780 --> 37:14.780] And for instance, Nevada has a law in the books that says it's a crime if you fail to identify yourself to a law enforcement officer when asked. [37:14.780 --> 37:25.780] So I don't know Alabama law, but, you know, certainly you're doing the right thing saying you want to remain silent and that you want to speak to an attorney. [37:25.780 --> 37:30.780] I mean, that is what you have to do in all situations. [37:30.780 --> 37:43.780] And fortunately, for you, they have no clue how to follow their own criminal procedure there in Alabama, which is unbelievably sort of typical, [37:43.780 --> 37:48.780] because in Mexico you don't really have to know the law, right, because you're the alcalde. [37:48.780 --> 38:01.780] Well, it's interesting because one of the reasons I said that the court had no jurisdiction was because the statute that they said I allegedly violated was a state statute. [38:01.780 --> 38:03.780] It was not a city ordinance. [38:03.780 --> 38:11.780] And they have to have adopted the state statute in order for them to have the authority to impose a penalty on anybody. [38:11.780 --> 38:18.780] Well, they didn't. It wasn't on the complaint. And they denied me discovery. [38:18.780 --> 38:24.780] The prosecutor would not provide anything, period. I mean, just flat out. [38:24.780 --> 38:31.780] So that was the reason that he chose. I must have had probably over a dozen solid reasons why they had no jurisdiction. [38:31.780 --> 38:39.780] That was, I suppose, the lightest one that he chose to put as invalidating the complaint. [38:39.780 --> 38:49.780] And so anyway, that's what he said. And so he said it was an invalid complaint, didn't have the ordinance number, which they don't have one. [38:49.780 --> 38:59.780] So they were trying to enforce state law within a municipality, which, unless they've adopted it, is forbidden. [38:59.780 --> 39:01.780] And that's under Alabama law. [39:01.780 --> 39:03.780] Alabama law. That's correct. [39:03.780 --> 39:09.780] Well, that's a good thing. I mean, that might be the case in other states, too, because that seems reasonable. [39:09.780 --> 39:15.780] But at the same time, I mean, that's the type of stuff law enforcement does all over the place. [39:15.780 --> 39:20.780] They just say, oh, you know, we're going to arrest you because we want to. [39:20.780 --> 39:21.780] Exactly. [39:21.780 --> 39:27.780] And we'll make the reason up later. And a lot of people make the mistake of consenting to a search. [39:27.780 --> 39:29.780] Oh, I don't consent to anything. [39:29.780 --> 39:35.780] A lot of people make the mistake of talking to them rather than standing on their right to remain silent and speak to an attorney. [39:35.780 --> 39:37.780] No, I don't talk to anybody. [39:37.780 --> 39:45.780] And one of the things you can do, too, that's always cute, is when they read you your rights, say, I don't understand those. [39:45.780 --> 39:47.780] I need to talk to an attorney. [39:47.780 --> 39:51.780] They never read me any rights. [39:51.780 --> 39:55.780] So they didn't read your rights. [39:55.780 --> 39:56.780] Oh, no. [39:56.780 --> 39:58.780] Yeah. That's amazing. [39:58.780 --> 40:00.780] So anyway... [40:00.780 --> 40:02.780] I'm sure they would have sworn to it, though. [40:02.780 --> 40:06.780] Well, apparently they had a recording of everything. [40:06.780 --> 40:12.780] But then when I tried to get in discovery or subpoena it, they said there's nothing, zero. [40:12.780 --> 40:13.780] Yeah, they couldn't find it, right? [40:13.780 --> 40:16.780] Yeah, exactly. [40:16.780 --> 40:25.780] Well, you know, fortunately, those public servants were doing such a poor job serving their masters that you have gotten out of the situation. [40:25.780 --> 40:32.780] Well, you know, something I've learned about these courts, municipal courts, at least in Alabama, they're not judicial, [40:32.780 --> 40:37.780] even though the Bar Association has included them in the unified judicial system. [40:37.780 --> 40:40.780] They are not judicial. [40:40.780 --> 40:44.780] They are administrative arbitration boards. [40:44.780 --> 40:47.780] The mayor actually has the controlling power. [40:47.780 --> 40:55.780] And once a person is ever brought into one, they basically are forced to waive all their rights. [40:55.780 --> 40:57.780] You have no jury trial. [40:57.780 --> 40:59.780] You don't have compulsory process. [40:59.780 --> 41:00.780] You don't have discovery. [41:00.780 --> 41:04.780] They don't follow any of the rules of procedure, only when it maybe favors them. [41:04.780 --> 41:06.780] There's no due process. [41:06.780 --> 41:12.780] You don't get a neutral, impartial, detached judge because there's a conflict of interest. [41:12.780 --> 41:19.780] It's an inherent conflict of interest because everybody there coming at you has a vested interest in the outcome of the prosecution. [41:19.780 --> 41:20.780] They get a fine. [41:20.780 --> 41:21.780] It goes into the till. [41:21.780 --> 41:23.780] They get a paycheck. [41:23.780 --> 41:27.780] Oh, well, that's to have really in courts all across the land. [41:27.780 --> 41:28.780] Exactly. [41:28.780 --> 41:32.780] So, I mean, it's just absolutely just rife with conflict of interest. [41:32.780 --> 41:34.780] It just stinks. [41:34.780 --> 41:46.780] So something that I think I would do again or I would change differently is I would begin immediately petitioning the council, the town council, for redress of grievance. [41:46.780 --> 41:55.780] That way you get publicity, refuse to go into executive session, make sure it's a public presentation of your grievance. [41:55.780 --> 42:05.780] And if, at least in Alabama, if they refuse to hear a grievance, that is against the law. [42:05.780 --> 42:08.780] So making it public. [42:08.780 --> 42:12.780] They want to keep everything under wraps so no one knows really what's going on. [42:12.780 --> 42:21.780] Also sending notices under Title 42, Section 1983, 86, and Title 18 and so forth. [42:21.780 --> 42:29.780] And check to see if the ordinances have been adopted or the state statutes have been adopted by ordinance. [42:29.780 --> 42:33.780] And see if the corporate charter is even in place. [42:33.780 --> 42:53.780] A lot of these little towns, they just kind of, you know, they just become, I guess, through time and practice, they become a corporation, which they have not followed the state procedure for doing so. [42:53.780 --> 42:59.780] So has this town incorporated? [42:59.780 --> 43:04.780] Looks like we lost him again. [43:04.780 --> 43:08.780] Well, Mark, what are you going to do to him? [43:08.780 --> 43:10.780] Looks like actually Mark is the one we lost. [43:10.780 --> 43:11.780] Oh. [43:11.780 --> 43:12.780] No, wait a minute. [43:12.780 --> 43:13.780] No. [43:13.780 --> 43:14.780] There he is. [43:14.780 --> 43:15.780] Hold on. [43:15.780 --> 43:18.780] He looks like he's back. [43:18.780 --> 43:21.780] Mark, you there? [43:21.780 --> 43:24.780] No, we lost him. [43:24.780 --> 43:32.780] I've been following Art's work for quite a while, and he really does write nice documents. [43:32.780 --> 43:38.780] So I'm real pleased with his work, and I'm more pleased that he beat their socks off of him. [43:38.780 --> 43:39.780] Yeah, this is awesome. [43:39.780 --> 43:41.780] See, it really does work. [43:41.780 --> 43:43.780] We really are making a difference. [43:43.780 --> 43:45.780] But he was frustrated for a long time. [43:45.780 --> 43:46.780] He was beginning to... [43:46.780 --> 43:47.780] You just have to keep at it. [43:47.780 --> 43:52.780] You just have to be persistent and not give up and just think that, oh, oh, there's nothing we can do. [43:52.780 --> 43:53.780] No, we can do something. [43:53.780 --> 43:54.780] It's just a lot of work. [43:54.780 --> 43:55.780] That's all. [43:55.780 --> 44:24.780] We'll be right back. [44:25.780 --> 44:52.780] We'll be right back. [44:52.780 --> 44:55.780] We'll be right back. [45:22.780 --> 45:34.780] We'll be right back. [45:34.780 --> 45:38.780] They call the police, watching the sparks fly [45:41.780 --> 45:44.780] Watching the sparks fly [45:47.780 --> 45:50.780] Watching the sparks fly [45:53.780 --> 45:57.780] Watching the sparks fly [45:57.780 --> 46:02.780] The first time is an addiction [46:02.780 --> 46:05.780] The hard work can leave you cold as nails [46:05.780 --> 46:08.780] Pensibility, toy tranquility [46:08.780 --> 46:11.780] Heavy loads of tape and unscathed [46:11.780 --> 46:31.780] The time is come on and we're forgotten [46:42.780 --> 46:49.780] If you have voice over internet long distance, that may be what's going on [46:49.780 --> 46:52.780] because a lot of those VoIP services are pretty flaky [46:52.780 --> 46:54.780] No, this is just landline [46:54.780 --> 46:58.780] Anyway, you've been kind enough to let me share my case with you [46:58.780 --> 47:00.780] That's really about all I have to add [47:00.780 --> 47:04.780] Unless Randy has some comments or any questions, that's about it [47:04.780 --> 47:08.780] Yeah, well I was commenting after you dropped off that [47:08.780 --> 47:13.780] You had been sending documents to me and I was real pleased with the quality of your work [47:13.780 --> 47:15.780] Well thank you, it's kind of you [47:15.780 --> 47:22.780] Actually I used my most developed skill on some of your documents [47:22.780 --> 47:25.780] I am an expert plagiarist [47:28.780 --> 47:32.780] So he did do nice work and it paid off [47:32.780 --> 47:36.780] Mainly what paid off is you just never quit [47:36.780 --> 47:42.780] I remember back there while you were getting frustrated with them because they were jerking you around [47:42.780 --> 47:49.780] But if you just hang in there, sooner or later they will knuckle under [47:49.780 --> 47:53.780] Well they weren't used to having people stand up to them [47:53.780 --> 47:58.780] Most everyone would cow down because of them showing their force [47:58.780 --> 48:03.780] Bringing out the SWAT team and glaring at you as you tried to approach the building [48:03.780 --> 48:08.780] You know, brandishing their guns and all this stuff [48:08.780 --> 48:12.780] Well that only made me more angry, it didn't frighten me [48:12.780 --> 48:17.780] Well that's the problem, I have a friend that's a pretty big guy [48:17.780 --> 48:22.780] He said to me one day, he said, you know what, I think I have a wire crossed [48:22.780 --> 48:29.780] If someone threatens me or points a gun at me, I tend to run at them instead of away from them [48:29.780 --> 48:34.780] I said, Leon, that could be a bad idea, he said, I know [48:34.780 --> 48:43.780] But sometimes the standard trick doesn't work and that's why we have so much diversity [48:43.780 --> 48:48.780] It's part of what keeps me motivated [48:48.780 --> 48:52.780] Everybody's not designed to do what you just did [48:52.780 --> 48:56.780] But then again, everybody doesn't have to be [48:56.780 --> 49:03.780] You don't take any really good resounding butt kickings to get somebody's attention [49:03.780 --> 49:07.780] And I suspect you'll get this town's attention before you're done [49:07.780 --> 49:10.780] Well I think so, I don't know whether you got this, I think I got cut off [49:10.780 --> 49:16.780] But I'm in the process of formulating some ideas for possibly a RICO suit following up on this [49:16.780 --> 49:19.780] And also state tort action [49:19.780 --> 49:24.780] The state tort action would include false arrest, false imprisonment, assault and battery [49:24.780 --> 49:26.780] Malicious prosecution [49:26.780 --> 49:29.780] Yes, and Eddie and I kind of chirped in there [49:29.780 --> 49:34.780] Aggravated assault because they were displaying a deadly weapon [49:34.780 --> 49:35.780] Oh, well thank you [49:35.780 --> 49:39.780] Aggravated kidnapping because they had a deadly weapon [49:39.780 --> 49:43.780] I have to see how it's defined by the state statute, I'm not sure the kidnapping would fly [49:43.780 --> 49:51.780] If they falsely imprisoned you for the purpose of the facilitation of the commission of a felony [49:51.780 --> 49:52.780] Okay [49:52.780 --> 49:55.780] That'll almost always get you aggravated kidnapping [49:55.780 --> 49:56.780] Okay [49:56.780 --> 50:00.780] And you can demonstrate that they did that [50:00.780 --> 50:01.780] Yes [50:01.780 --> 50:05.780] So it's a lot more fun to charge the big ones [50:05.780 --> 50:06.780] Yes [50:06.780 --> 50:09.780] Because those guys that you're charging, they're not used to it [50:09.780 --> 50:13.780] And what I suggested, you probably missed it, was sue the jailers [50:13.780 --> 50:15.780] Oh I did, the jailers were on me [50:15.780 --> 50:17.780] And we do have Mark Adams back by the way, guys [50:17.780 --> 50:21.780] Okay, good, good, you want to sue the most innocent party [50:21.780 --> 50:22.780] Right [50:22.780 --> 50:24.780] Because he'll scream the loudest [50:24.780 --> 50:28.780] Yeah, I've got the jailer listed because he was the one who was giving me a life sentence [50:28.780 --> 50:31.780] He said if you don't cooperate to the full and agree to everything [50:31.780 --> 50:34.780] You're going to stay in here and we don't have to ever let you out [50:34.780 --> 50:35.780] Oh [50:35.780 --> 50:39.780] So he was willing to or trying to give me a life sentence [50:39.780 --> 50:42.780] Well, we'll see how that works out [50:42.780 --> 50:45.780] Right [50:45.780 --> 50:48.780] Well good, I sure appreciate your story [50:48.780 --> 50:49.780] Mark, you there? [50:49.780 --> 50:51.780] Thank you too, Randy, you've been real good [50:51.780 --> 50:53.780] When I've called you, I know you've been busy at times [50:53.780 --> 50:55.780] And you've given me an ear [50:55.780 --> 50:57.780] You've also given me some documents that have been helpful [50:57.780 --> 50:59.780] I've done some picking through it [50:59.780 --> 51:02.780] And I have to confess, there have been some paragraphs and things [51:02.780 --> 51:05.780] That I've excerpted out and used in my material too [51:05.780 --> 51:08.780] So I do appreciate the support [51:08.780 --> 51:10.780] You plagiarized my documents? [51:10.780 --> 51:12.780] Oh no, I borrowed it [51:12.780 --> 51:16.780] Yeah, yeah, yeah, you better be checking them really good for typos [51:16.780 --> 51:20.780] Oh, I feel disparaged [51:20.780 --> 51:25.780] Somebody sneaks in after I go to bed and puts those typos in my documents [51:25.780 --> 51:28.780] Oh, I'm sure [51:28.780 --> 51:30.780] It's the typo gremlin [51:30.780 --> 51:32.780] That's it [51:32.780 --> 51:33.780] Mark, are you there? [51:33.780 --> 51:34.780] Yeah, I'm here [51:34.780 --> 51:37.780] Good, well, what do you think? [51:37.780 --> 51:40.780] Well, I was having problems staying connected there [51:40.780 --> 51:42.780] So I didn't hear a lot of the end [51:42.780 --> 51:50.780] But fortunately, the prosecuting princes and law enforcement [51:50.780 --> 51:54.780] Once again, don't have any clue how to prosecute anybody [51:54.780 --> 51:58.780] Because that opens up lots of doors for you [51:58.780 --> 52:03.780] So standing like Art did on the right to remain silent [52:03.780 --> 52:08.780] And the right to speak with an attorney is a very important thing to do [52:08.780 --> 52:12.780] All right [52:12.780 --> 52:16.780] Well, good, and you had some issues you wanted to address today, Mark [52:16.780 --> 52:21.780] All right, well, Art, are you staying with us or are you going now? [52:21.780 --> 52:23.780] I'll just listen on the computer [52:23.780 --> 52:26.780] Okay, all right, well, thank you for joining us tonight [52:26.780 --> 52:27.780] A pleasure, thanks so much [52:27.780 --> 52:28.780] Okay [52:28.780 --> 52:29.780] And the best to you all, God bless [52:29.780 --> 52:30.780] Okay, you have a good night [52:30.780 --> 52:34.780] All right, I just wanted to, you know, didn't want him to be just sitting there waiting [52:34.780 --> 52:36.780] Okay, go ahead, Mark [52:36.780 --> 52:40.780] Yeah, I was just going to point out that I don't know if you're aware [52:40.780 --> 52:42.780] I know you have listeners from Florida [52:42.780 --> 52:52.780] But back in December, the Florida Supreme Court entered an order in paneling a statewide grand jury [52:52.780 --> 53:01.780] And in Florida, a statewide grand jury has to be requested by the governor or the attorney general [53:01.780 --> 53:03.780] And this one was requested by the governor [53:03.780 --> 53:11.780] And quoting from his petition to a panel, a statewide grand jury says, [53:11.780 --> 53:21.780] Petitioner, that means the governor, recognizes the ongoing harm caused by crimes committed by local and state public officials [53:21.780 --> 53:26.780] So sort of like Art's experience there in Alabama, it's the same thing in Florida [53:26.780 --> 53:30.780] They blatantly violate the laws left and right [53:30.780 --> 53:36.780] And in Florida, they're doing, you know, of course they're doing all kinds of stuff [53:36.780 --> 53:44.780] I mean, something that most people don't know is 25% of the mortgage defaults in the country are Florida mortgages [53:44.780 --> 53:54.780] And that's because Florida has admitted that when they received complaints about banks and mortgage brokers committing fraud on homebuyers [53:54.780 --> 53:57.780] The powers that beat them in the trash [53:57.780 --> 53:59.780] Didn't investigate them [53:59.780 --> 54:02.780] Destroyed public documents [54:02.780 --> 54:07.780] Because once the complaint's made, it becomes a public document and it's a crime to actually throw it away [54:07.780 --> 54:14.780] But they actually admitted to tens of thousands, they don't even know how many they threw away [54:14.780 --> 54:21.780] But they admitted that it was in the tens of thousands of complaints about fraud being committed by banks and mortgage companies [54:21.780 --> 54:30.780] And I know that's something that you all talk about from time to time, all the crimes being committed by the bankers [54:30.780 --> 54:40.780] But apparently that's one of the things that people are trying to get the statewide grand jury to consider [54:40.780 --> 54:47.780] Of course, like with most grand juries, there's a prosecuting prince standing barring the door [54:47.780 --> 54:57.780] Telling people that, oh, well, he'll consider their complaint, but he's not sure if he can give it to the grand jurors [54:57.780 --> 55:00.780] So what do you guys have to say about that? [55:00.780 --> 55:04.780] Well, I go out of my way to set them up to do that [55:04.780 --> 55:11.780] Well, that's because Texas has that beautiful law that still requires them to submit the stuff to the grand jury [55:11.780 --> 55:19.780] Just like the federal law, but of course the federal law, which I'm talking about, 18 U.S.C. 3332 [55:19.780 --> 55:27.780] Says the U.S. attorney shall present the evidence to the grand jury if requested by the complainant [55:27.780 --> 55:34.780] But the federal courts have said, oh, no, going back as far as like the 1960s [55:34.780 --> 55:41.780] The prosecutors had unlimited discretion regarding what he wants to present to the grand jury [55:41.780 --> 55:49.780] Where did they get that discretion? Did it just materialize out of the ether? [55:49.780 --> 55:59.780] Yeah, they just sort of materialized that, even though it's contrary to how it worked up until the right was trumped [55:59.780 --> 56:04.780] By that fundamental constitutional right to petition for redress of grievances [56:04.780 --> 56:13.780] Incorporated in the 14th Amendment to all the states through the, in the First Amendment to all the states through the 14th Amendment [56:13.780 --> 56:20.780] Was just trumped by the federal rules of criminal procedure in 1944, somehow or other [56:20.780 --> 56:25.780] Well, what I'm doing now is getting prepared to go after a couple of federal judges [56:25.780 --> 56:30.780] And I'll be setting up the U.S. attorney [56:30.780 --> 56:37.780] And even if they say he does have prosecutorial discretion [56:37.780 --> 56:44.780] What I'm going to maintain is he does not have prosecutorial caprice [56:44.780 --> 56:50.780] That he may not decide who he wants to prosecute and who he doesn't [56:50.780 --> 56:53.780] He may only make a determination of probable cause [56:53.780 --> 56:58.780] Right, and at the same time when they refuse to submit a complaint [56:58.780 --> 57:05.780] They're actually committing another criminal act because they're violating 18 U.S.C. for misprision of felony [57:05.780 --> 57:09.780] And most state laws have a similar statute which makes it a crime to cover up a crime [57:09.780 --> 57:13.780] Yeah, we got one of those here in Texas and we're about to use it big time [57:13.780 --> 57:17.780] 3805 Penal Code, shielding from prosecution [57:17.780 --> 57:23.780] Well, I'm telling you, I'm going to have to move to Texas once they run me out of Florida [57:23.780 --> 57:27.780] Well, we do have a good corpus juris here [57:27.780 --> 57:32.780] If we can just force them to follow it and we're working on that [57:32.780 --> 57:36.780] You know those government power brokers don't like to read? [57:36.780 --> 57:40.780] Well, they're going to have to with us because I've come up with a legal argument that proves [57:40.780 --> 57:44.780] Every time they try to charge you with a crime for a traffic offense [57:44.780 --> 57:50.780] It's a violation of the Administrative Procedures Act, it's not a crime, it's an administrative process [57:50.780 --> 57:56.780] Now that's interesting, that is very interesting [57:56.780 --> 58:02.780] And so, but back to Florida though, there's a variety of complaints [58:02.780 --> 58:06.780] And a few people have filed complaints actually with the Florida Supreme Court [58:06.780 --> 58:10.780] Seeking to present evidence directly to the statewide grand jury [58:10.780 --> 58:16.780] Because once again, they've been getting the run around by the statewide grand jury prosecutor [58:16.780 --> 58:21.780] And I'll tell you his name in one second [58:21.780 --> 58:26.780] Because I love to name names when they're just blatantly violating the law [58:26.780 --> 58:29.780] Okay, what's this guy's name? [58:29.780 --> 58:39.780] It is His Majesty William N. Shepard, statewide prosecutor [58:39.780 --> 58:49.780] Now I added to His Majesty, it's actually not part of the title, it's just how he acts [58:49.780 --> 58:53.780] Okay, well listen, we're going to break [58:53.780 --> 59:10.780] We'll be right back on the other side [59:53.780 --> 01:00:03.780] This news brief brought to you by the International News Net [01:00:03.780 --> 01:00:07.780] The Associated Press reports only one cent of every dollar [01:00:07.780 --> 01:00:13.780] The 317 million dollars the US government is giving for Haiti's relief is going to the Haitian government [01:00:13.780 --> 01:00:17.780] 40 cents of every dollar is going to the US military for security [01:00:17.780 --> 01:00:21.780] And 36 cents to US disaster relief [01:00:21.780 --> 01:00:25.780] So far only 10 cents of every dollar has been spent on food [01:00:25.780 --> 01:00:36.780] In other news from Haiti, Prime Minister Jean-Max Belrive told CNN trafficking in children and human organ harvesting is occurring in the aftermath of the quake [01:00:36.780 --> 01:00:43.780] Belrive said Haiti is trying to locate displaced children so they can be reunited with family members or put up for adoption [01:00:43.780 --> 01:00:47.780] Adding illegal child trafficking is one of Haiti's biggest problems [01:00:47.780 --> 01:00:53.780] Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez says he will write off Haiti's oil debt [01:00:53.780 --> 01:01:04.780] Chavez also announced the Bolivarian Alliance for the Americas is making an immediate donation of 20 million to Haiti's health sector, the first installment of 100 million [01:01:04.780 --> 01:01:10.780] Top of the hour news brought to you by INN World Report [01:01:10.780 --> 01:01:14.780] The Council of Europe's inquiry into the swine flu pandemic occurred on Wednesday [01:01:14.780 --> 01:01:23.780] Drug companies had manipulated the World Health Organization into downgrading its definition of pandemic so they would cash in on the outbreak [01:01:23.780 --> 01:01:31.780] The inquiry heard the WHO allegedly softened its criteria for declaring an H1N1 flu pandemic last spring [01:01:31.780 --> 01:01:34.780] Weeks before announcing there was a worldwide outbreak [01:01:34.780 --> 01:01:43.780] Critics said the decision was driven by drug companies desperate to recoup the billions of dollars they had spent researching and developing pandemic vaccines [01:01:43.780 --> 01:01:47.780] After the bird flu scares of 2006 and 2007 [01:01:47.780 --> 01:01:55.780] Following the organization's declaration of a pandemic the UK Department of Health warned of 65,000 pending deaths [01:01:55.780 --> 01:02:03.780] Set up a special advice line and website and suspended normal rules so anti-flu drugs could be given without prescription [01:02:03.780 --> 01:02:16.780] However with just 250 deaths in Britain and 14,000 worldwide the WHO is being asked to account for its actions [01:02:16.780 --> 01:02:23.780] Barack Obama vowed in his State of the Union address Wednesday not to give up on his ambitious legislative agenda [01:02:23.780 --> 01:02:30.780] Obama promised to focus intensely on jobs and with healthcare reform delayed in the wake of the recent Republican victory in Massachusetts [01:02:30.780 --> 01:02:36.780] He told Democrats the people expect us to solve some problems not run for the hills [01:02:36.780 --> 01:02:44.780] Adding if the Republican leadership is going to insist that 60 votes in the Senate are required to do any business at all in this town [01:02:44.780 --> 01:02:48.780] Then the responsibility to govern is now yours as well [01:02:48.780 --> 01:03:00.780] Top of the hour news brought to you by INN World Report [01:03:00.780 --> 01:03:06.780] You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com [01:03:06.780 --> 01:03:19.780] Live free speech talk radio at its best [01:03:36.780 --> 01:04:05.780] Okay, we are back for hour two [01:04:05.780 --> 01:04:10.780] This is the Rule of Law, we are speaking with Mark Adams [01:04:10.780 --> 01:04:15.780] And Mark, do you want to start taking calls or do you have other topics you want to discuss first? [01:04:15.780 --> 01:04:19.780] Oh no, I have lots more news about the statewide grand jury [01:04:19.780 --> 01:04:21.780] Okay, great [01:04:21.780 --> 01:04:39.780] So anyway, His Majesty Prince William Shepard, the statewide prosecutor, is declining to hear most of the complaints submitted to the statewide prosecutor to be submitted to the statewide grand jury [01:04:39.780 --> 01:04:47.780] So a few people have gone around them and they filed complaints with the Florida Supreme Court [01:04:47.780 --> 01:04:56.780] And one of those complaints is by a nationally renowned attorney who has handled some very high profile cases [01:04:56.780 --> 01:05:03.780] And it's not me, but it's somebody else and I won't name names right now [01:05:03.780 --> 01:05:09.780] But he brought up a sticky issue that plagued Florida for a number of years [01:05:09.780 --> 01:05:29.780] And that is that for several years, basically from 2000 when some really stupid government employees changed the oath that all public servants have to take as required by the U.S. Constitution [01:05:29.780 --> 01:05:34.780] And Florida also by the Florida Constitution and Florida statutes [01:05:34.780 --> 01:05:37.780] They changed it from an oath to not an oath [01:05:37.780 --> 01:05:52.780] And so whoops, for seven years, not a single public official in Florida was constitutionally qualified to act as anything [01:05:52.780 --> 01:06:08.780] And so this attorney has filed something which amazingly every document filed with the Florida Supreme Court regarding the statewide grand jury is available on the web except for this one [01:06:08.780 --> 01:06:14.780] Somehow or other this document didn't get posted [01:06:14.780 --> 01:06:16.780] I've got a copy of it though [01:06:16.780 --> 01:06:24.780] But anyway, it points out that all of the prosecutors or the attorney general specifically [01:06:24.780 --> 01:06:33.780] And the judge in charge of the statewide grand jury both were acting for a few years without a valid oath [01:06:33.780 --> 01:06:50.780] So that's technically a crime and so this motion seeks to have them removed and also to appear to present evidence about a number of Florida officials committing crimes by acting without a valid oath [01:06:50.780 --> 01:06:56.780] So that's an interesting catch-22 type of situation, wouldn't you say? [01:06:56.780 --> 01:07:06.780] Barry? It reminds me of a case that said if all are disqualified, none are disqualified [01:07:06.780 --> 01:07:14.780] That's interesting and the U.S. Supreme Court recently said in Wynn v. U.S. that and this was dealing with a judge [01:07:14.780 --> 01:07:21.780] That if the judge wasn't qualified to act, everything the judge did was void [01:07:21.780 --> 01:07:27.780] Well, yeah, that just makes perfect sense That makes it very unusual [01:07:27.780 --> 01:07:32.780] Well, no, that's the general standard. You have to be qualified to act [01:07:32.780 --> 01:07:42.780] You know, there's this de facto officer doctrine that floats around out there, but it usually is shot down [01:07:42.780 --> 01:07:52.780] I mean, that's what in Florida when the Florida Supreme Court was called on this issue about a year ago [01:07:52.780 --> 01:08:00.780] They came up with the, well, you know, we took an oath and, you know, it was oral [01:08:00.780 --> 01:08:05.780] And, you know, just because we signed something that didn't qualify as an oath, that doesn't really matter [01:08:05.780 --> 01:08:13.780] Even though Florida statutes and stuff call for a written oath to be filed [01:08:13.780 --> 01:08:20.780] And so they didn't even lean on the de facto officer doctrine in that one [01:08:20.780 --> 01:08:27.780] But I mean, that's one of the many sticky things that have been filed here [01:08:27.780 --> 01:08:34.780] Because like you mentioned from time to time, Florida is way up there in corruption [01:08:34.780 --> 01:08:39.780] I mean, 25% of the mortgage foreclosures in the country being in Florida [01:08:39.780 --> 01:08:47.780] And the Florida attorney general admitting that their own research has indicated [01:08:47.780 --> 01:08:57.780] that tens of thousands of complaints about fraud being committed against homeowners were just thrown in the trash [01:08:57.780 --> 01:09:01.780] And so Florida is definitely the leader in corruption [01:09:01.780 --> 01:09:13.780] One of the requests to present information to the statewide grand jury includes evidence that, of course, [01:09:13.780 --> 01:09:23.780] local prosecutors wouldn't follow, but includes evidence which indicates that the, [01:09:23.780 --> 01:09:30.780] I'm trying to find it so I can quote it exactly [01:09:30.780 --> 01:09:34.780] Well, one thing about Florida, I used to think it was the most corrupt in the nation [01:09:34.780 --> 01:09:37.780] But I think Minnesota beat it out [01:09:37.780 --> 01:09:41.780] Well, yeah, since Minnesota has no lawful government anymore [01:09:41.780 --> 01:09:44.780] Yeah, Minnesota is amazing [01:09:44.780 --> 01:09:49.780] I mean, Dale Nathan's book about Minnesota injustice with, you know, [01:09:49.780 --> 01:09:58.780] over a hundred case examples of blatant violations of people's rights [01:09:58.780 --> 01:10:06.780] It's just, you know, I mean, it's a great read because you see it and you go, oh, my gosh [01:10:06.780 --> 01:10:09.780] You know, someone has told the story about all this stuff [01:10:09.780 --> 01:10:14.780] But at the same time you go, oh, my gosh, you know, that could happen to anyone [01:10:14.780 --> 01:10:18.780] And that's the thing, it happens all the time [01:10:18.780 --> 01:10:22.780] And, you know, Art was lucky enough to be a listener to your show [01:10:22.780 --> 01:10:29.780] And so, you know, he had the basic information that he needed to use [01:10:29.780 --> 01:10:36.780] to prevent being railroaded for something that, you know, sounded like to me [01:10:36.780 --> 01:10:39.780] there was no probable cause to even question him for anything [01:10:39.780 --> 01:10:42.780] Well, I have to give Mark credit, he was no chump [01:10:42.780 --> 01:10:46.780] Going in, he was good going in [01:10:46.780 --> 01:10:49.780] He did really nice work [01:10:49.780 --> 01:10:54.780] Yeah, that's good, I mean, it's really important, the first interaction [01:10:54.780 --> 01:11:00.780] because the first interaction with officers are, you know, quite often [01:11:00.780 --> 01:11:04.780] where you can quash everything right there [01:11:04.780 --> 01:11:06.780] I mean, I think last time I was on your show [01:11:06.780 --> 01:11:13.780] I was telling you a little bit about wandering up on some sheriff's deputies [01:11:13.780 --> 01:11:17.780] that were trying to bring false charges and arrest three teenagers [01:11:17.780 --> 01:11:24.780] because, you know, teenagers have been, I mean, teenagers and people of color [01:11:24.780 --> 01:11:28.780] are the ones that cops generally pick on, so... [01:11:28.780 --> 01:11:30.780] Easy marks [01:11:30.780 --> 01:11:32.780] Yep, easy marks [01:11:32.780 --> 01:11:38.780] And fortunately for these kids, I happened to walk up and ask a couple questions [01:11:38.780 --> 01:11:40.780] and embarrass the hell out of the cops [01:11:40.780 --> 01:11:44.780] and suddenly they were afraid about having felony charges filed against them [01:11:44.780 --> 01:11:48.780] so they decided to just let everybody go [01:11:48.780 --> 01:11:50.780] How big of them? [01:11:50.780 --> 01:11:52.780] Yeah, that was really nice of them, huh? [01:11:52.780 --> 01:11:57.780] Damn, they can't throw a few people in the system based on false felony charges [01:11:57.780 --> 01:11:59.780] I hate when that happens [01:11:59.780 --> 01:12:04.780] I mean, there were lawyers that could have made money, counselors that could have made money [01:12:04.780 --> 01:12:07.780] judges that could have wielded power, you know [01:12:07.780 --> 01:12:14.780] private prison beds that could have been, you know, gotten a couple of rentals for a few nights at the minimum [01:12:14.780 --> 01:12:16.780] At the minimum [01:12:16.780 --> 01:12:18.780] Yep [01:12:18.780 --> 01:12:22.780] But going back to one of the things that's been filed [01:12:22.780 --> 01:12:27.780] it concerns violations of law in St. Augustine [01:12:27.780 --> 01:12:34.780] and I heard something on the INN news break there about [01:12:34.780 --> 01:12:41.780] people dumping waste and, you know, environmental [01:12:41.780 --> 01:12:44.780] yeah, harmful chemicals and stuff [01:12:44.780 --> 01:12:48.780] and I just heard that a little bit, I was sort of half paying attention to it [01:12:48.780 --> 01:12:52.780] and anyway, that happens to be something that's a complaint [01:12:52.780 --> 01:12:57.780] which, you know, that's a crime when you dump hazardous waste [01:12:57.780 --> 01:13:07.780] and this one has to do with 40,000 cubic yards of hazardous waste being dumped in the city reservoir [01:13:07.780 --> 01:13:13.780] and it being covered up by the local authorities there in St. Augustine, Florida [01:13:13.780 --> 01:13:19.780] and that's the same [01:13:19.780 --> 01:13:23.780] what's interesting about that, that's the same judicial circuit [01:13:23.780 --> 01:13:30.780] in which the state attorney's daughter was picked up on a bogus abuse of power charge [01:13:30.780 --> 01:13:34.780] by the cops on Flagler Beach a couple years ago [01:13:34.780 --> 01:13:42.780] and, you know, quite often cops will make up disorderly conduct charges and arrest people [01:13:42.780 --> 01:13:46.780] to once again make money for the prison industrial complex [01:13:46.780 --> 01:13:52.780] and so they picked her up, she was on the beach and they charged her with disorderly conduct [01:13:52.780 --> 01:13:57.780] they didn't charge her with drunken disorderly because if you get charged with drunken disorderly [01:13:57.780 --> 01:14:01.780] you can take a breathalyzer and, you know, when you don't have any alcohol in your system [01:14:01.780 --> 01:14:06.780] that sort of blows their little charges, you know, blows a big hole in them [01:14:06.780 --> 01:14:09.780] so she was just charged with disorderly conduct [01:14:09.780 --> 01:14:12.780] but when they took her down to the jail, they said, oh, we need a strip searcher [01:14:12.780 --> 01:14:15.780] and she said, hey, my daddy's a prosecuting prince [01:14:15.780 --> 01:14:18.780] actually she used the word state attorney [01:14:18.780 --> 01:14:22.780] which in Florida is the prosecuting prince, he's like the U.S. attorney [01:14:22.780 --> 01:14:26.780] for his particular circuit, there's 20 circuits [01:14:26.780 --> 01:14:32.780] and so she told them repeatedly, my dad's a state attorney, let me call my dad [01:14:32.780 --> 01:14:38.780] they refused and they put her in a choke hold until she lost consciousness [01:14:38.780 --> 01:14:40.780] and then they strip searched her [01:14:40.780 --> 01:14:47.780] and so since the prosecuting prince's daughter got strip searched unconstitutionally [01:14:47.780 --> 01:14:50.780] without any probable cause after being falsely arrested [01:14:50.780 --> 01:14:53.780] he was a little bit upset about that [01:14:53.780 --> 01:14:56.780] it's okay when the thousands of other people had that happen to him [01:14:56.780 --> 01:14:59.780] but, you know, when it was his daughter [01:14:59.780 --> 01:15:02.780] he sort of thought there might be a problem [01:15:02.780 --> 01:15:06.780] so he instituted an investigation with the grand jury there [01:15:06.780 --> 01:15:12.780] and the governor said, oh, well, we want to remove you from this grand jury investigation [01:15:12.780 --> 01:15:18.780] which is interesting because the governor doesn't actually have the power to do that [01:15:18.780 --> 01:15:24.780] he has the power to remove someone from office if there's misconduct [01:15:24.780 --> 01:15:29.780] but he doesn't have the power to pull a state attorney off a particular investigation [01:15:29.780 --> 01:15:32.780] but the state attorney went along with it [01:15:32.780 --> 01:15:35.780] and so another state attorney stepped in [01:15:35.780 --> 01:15:41.780] and what ended up happening is the police officer that brought the false charges [01:15:41.780 --> 01:15:43.780] ended up getting fired [01:15:43.780 --> 01:15:51.780] and the couple jailers that choked the state attorney's daughter into unconsciousness got fired [01:15:51.780 --> 01:15:54.780] one of them actually was charged with battery [01:15:54.780 --> 01:15:59.780] and I think had to, you know, plea bargain and do [01:15:59.780 --> 01:16:02.780] I don't know if she did any jail time [01:16:02.780 --> 01:16:06.780] but she at least had a misdemeanor conviction [01:16:06.780 --> 01:16:12.780] but that abuse of power is going on all over the place [01:16:12.780 --> 01:16:16.780] and like this complaint the statewide grand jury here points out [01:16:16.780 --> 01:16:21.780] there's all kinds of evidence of environmental pollution being covered up [01:16:21.780 --> 01:16:29.780] and there's also evidence of the government officials over there [01:16:29.780 --> 01:16:35.780] including people from the law enforcement stealing $20,000 [01:16:35.780 --> 01:16:39.780] Alright, hang on Mark, we're fixing to go to break [01:16:39.780 --> 01:16:43.780] This is Rule of Law Radio with Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig and Deborah Stevens [01:16:43.780 --> 01:16:46.780] and we'll be back after just a minute [01:16:59.780 --> 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Go ahead Mark [01:18:26.780 --> 01:18:33.780] Okay, so another complaint that has been filed with the Florida Supreme Court [01:18:33.780 --> 01:18:42.780] seeking to get evidence before the statewide grand jury concerns a lobbyist paying off a public service commissioner [01:18:42.780 --> 01:18:52.780] and now the interesting thing there is that could probably be said of every single member of Florida's public service commission [01:18:52.780 --> 01:18:56.780] because one of the things that has been going on in Florida over the last couple of years [01:18:56.780 --> 01:18:59.780] is a trick that has been going on in a couple of other states [01:18:59.780 --> 01:19:12.780] and that is back in 2007, Florida's legislature and governor passed a law [01:19:12.780 --> 01:19:27.780] which said the public service, well public utilities, electric utilities could actually start charging their customers in advance for building new plants [01:19:27.780 --> 01:19:34.780] because prior to that it was always the public utility had to raise the money to build a plant [01:19:34.780 --> 01:19:44.780] and then they got to charge a capital recovery fee to their customers over basically the life of the plant [01:19:44.780 --> 01:19:52.780] and so they changed the law like so often the government has done recently to favor the big lobbyists [01:19:52.780 --> 01:19:57.780] like the bank robbers, I mean the banksters, I mean Wall Street bankers [01:19:57.780 --> 01:20:05.780] and in this situation what they did is they changed the law to favor the big utilities [01:20:05.780 --> 01:20:09.780] so the utilities would collect up front for their power plants [01:20:09.780 --> 01:20:20.780] now if you wonder what's the most expensive power plant you could bill, what would you guys guess that would be? [01:20:20.780 --> 01:20:25.780] I don't know, several hundred million from these nuclear plants [01:20:25.780 --> 01:20:31.780] a nuclear power plant or as Bush liked to call it, nuclear [01:20:31.780 --> 01:20:36.780] anyway a nuclear power plant is the most expensive power plant you could build [01:20:36.780 --> 01:20:45.780] and so naturally right after the law got changed a couple of Florida's utilities decided they wanted to ask the public service commission [01:20:45.780 --> 01:20:53.780] to allow them to build nuclear power plants and of course once again charge their customers in advance [01:20:53.780 --> 01:20:56.780] before the plants even built [01:20:56.780 --> 01:21:03.780] and so anyway this complaint has to do with evidence showing that one of the members of the Florida Public Service Commission [01:21:03.780 --> 01:21:11.780] took an amount of money from a lobbyist or the power industry [01:21:11.780 --> 01:21:19.780] so that ought to be interesting especially if it ever actually gets to the statewide grand jury [01:21:19.780 --> 01:21:26.780] and then of course there's a couple other things, there's murder cover-ups [01:21:26.780 --> 01:21:36.780] the last time I was on your show back in October I was talking about the fact that down in Lee County Florida [01:21:36.780 --> 01:21:43.780] they've got an unconstitutional child support collection program going [01:21:43.780 --> 01:21:46.780] that the Florida Bar approved of by the way [01:21:46.780 --> 01:21:56.780] and of course the Florida Bar is like many public officials, they just go along with whatever anybody wants to do [01:21:56.780 --> 01:22:01.780] the law means nothing because the rulers are the law, right? [01:22:01.780 --> 01:22:04.780] They like to say so [01:22:04.780 --> 01:22:09.780] Right, they're like the El Calde in the days of old, whatever they say is the law [01:22:09.780 --> 01:22:18.780] and so what they did down there in Lee County just to remind the people or to inform the people that weren't listening back in October [01:22:18.780 --> 01:22:26.780] is the only person entitled to enforce a child support obligation under Florida law [01:22:26.780 --> 01:22:31.780] and I would say this is probably similar in every state, is the person who the money is owed to [01:22:31.780 --> 01:22:40.780] and in Florida there's a limited situation where the Department of Children and Families can enforce the child support obligation [01:22:40.780 --> 01:22:46.780] if the Department of Children and Families have paid for certain things for support of the minor child [01:22:46.780 --> 01:22:54.780] but what they did down in Lee County courts is they decided once again in cooperation with the geniuses at the Florida Bar [01:22:54.780 --> 01:23:02.780] who obviously thought this would mean an increase in legal fees for their attorney members [01:23:02.780 --> 01:23:04.780] somehow it didn't work out that way though [01:23:04.780 --> 01:23:12.780] but anyway what they decided to do was just start this cute little program that whenever anyone missed a child support payment [01:23:12.780 --> 01:23:19.780] they'd just send them an order in the mail saying that they now had to pay weekly, they had to pay additional fees [01:23:19.780 --> 01:23:25.780] they didn't pay by Wednesday at 5pm, they had to show up on Friday at 1pm and explain why they didn't pay [01:23:25.780 --> 01:23:29.780] and if the judge didn't like their explanation, he just threw them in jail [01:23:29.780 --> 01:23:36.780] and of course since no one had filed a motion seeking to hold them in contempt, they were acting without subject matter jurisdiction [01:23:36.780 --> 01:23:43.780] since they entered that order without any hearing, oops, that's a big problem, another violation of due process [01:23:43.780 --> 01:23:51.780] since they were forcing people to show up at a hearing pursuant to that order without comporting with the notice requirements [01:23:51.780 --> 01:24:00.780] of Florida law for contempt proceedings and about 20 or 30 cases that say oh yeah, you have to comply with the notice requirements [01:24:00.780 --> 01:24:04.780] they were violating due process once again [01:24:04.780 --> 01:24:10.780] and then of course they were violating Florida's Constitution and Florida's Supreme Court decisions that say [01:24:10.780 --> 01:24:15.780] you can't just throw someone in jail just because they haven't paid their child support [01:24:15.780 --> 01:24:22.780] you have to be able to show that they had the ability to pay and refuse to pay [01:24:22.780 --> 01:24:28.780] Well now why complicate things that way Mark, why not just leave the system the way it is where they can do it the way they want [01:24:28.780 --> 01:24:30.780] they can control it so much better that way [01:24:30.780 --> 01:24:39.780] Right, I mean you know because it was working so good, I mean basically what was happening is all the people that were too poor to pay [01:24:39.780 --> 01:24:44.780] were getting thrown in jail and they were losing their jobs and their homes so then they were really poor [01:24:44.780 --> 01:24:48.780] and once they were turned into homeless people then they were just run out of the county [01:24:48.780 --> 01:24:53.780] and you know of course that worked out great for the kids who didn't get child support for some reason [01:24:53.780 --> 01:25:05.780] but yeah so that's another one that my understanding is there's going to be a complaint filed about that [01:25:05.780 --> 01:25:11.780] with the Florida Supreme Court seeking to get that before the statewide grand jury [01:25:11.780 --> 01:25:22.780] and the other thing that's interesting is although Florida's press has written a couple stories about the statewide grand jury being impaneled back in December [01:25:22.780 --> 01:25:26.780] they haven't really talked about it too much unsurprisingly [01:25:26.780 --> 01:25:36.780] because as we all know the press, those guardians of democracy want to look the other way whenever there's public corruption [01:25:36.780 --> 01:25:44.780] Well haven't you noticed that we're now pretty much like the jury, you've heard of the fully informed jury being taken out of society [01:25:44.780 --> 01:25:46.780] why not the fully informed public? [01:25:46.780 --> 01:25:52.780] Right, that's a good one, get rid of the fully informed jury, get rid of the fully informed public [01:25:52.780 --> 01:25:57.780] and oh everything will be so beautiful for the rulers, I mean the people that rule [01:25:57.780 --> 01:26:05.780] of course that goes to something that they don't think about [01:26:05.780 --> 01:26:10.780] and that's when you turn a country into a third rural country when there's no justice [01:26:10.780 --> 01:26:18.780] so people don't have incentive to invest in things and produce things and better themselves [01:26:18.780 --> 01:26:29.780] then you end up with something sort of like Mexico where at some point in time all the people go hey let's start shooting all those in power [01:26:29.780 --> 01:26:34.780] and robbing those in power and they're enforcers [01:26:34.780 --> 01:26:46.780] and of course you know the press is telling us that the drug dealers against the government when in actuality it's the people against the government in Mexico [01:26:46.780 --> 01:26:51.780] Well it's one of those things where they can talk about it all day long [01:26:51.780 --> 01:26:58.780] but which founding father was it that said that when there are no more peaceable solutions left to the people [01:26:58.780 --> 01:27:01.780] then we'll definitely wind up taking the violent ones? [01:27:01.780 --> 01:27:06.780] Yeah I would say that could have been Jefferson, he said a few things about that [01:27:06.780 --> 01:27:12.780] and you know of course the Declaration of Independence talks about injustice, injustice, injustice [01:27:12.780 --> 01:27:20.780] in fact although people are taught in schools that supposedly we revolted over taxation without representation [01:27:20.780 --> 01:27:26.780] actually if you read the Declaration of Independence, injustice is mentioned more than anything [01:27:26.780 --> 01:27:33.780] and violation of the rights to jury trial is mentioned as one of the injustices [01:27:33.780 --> 01:27:40.780] and that's something too that people don't really realize what has gone on in our country [01:27:40.780 --> 01:27:48.780] but there's been a constant erosion of rights and although a couple weeks ago the U.S. Supreme Court said [01:27:48.780 --> 01:27:54.780] oh we're going to say corporations have rights to do things that even citizens don't have the right to do [01:27:54.780 --> 01:27:59.780] which is sort of amazing but not surprising [01:27:59.780 --> 01:28:04.780] Well there's something I'd like to ask you as an attorney, see if you've ever considered this thought here [01:28:04.780 --> 01:28:11.780] but has anyone but me noticed that even though here in Texas for instance the state constitution says it [01:28:11.780 --> 01:28:16.780] I know the federal constitution says it that when the government will no longer listen to the people [01:28:16.780 --> 01:28:22.780] the people have the right to abolish that government by whatever means they deem necessary [01:28:22.780 --> 01:28:27.780] and then re-institute a government that's more willing to obey the will of the people [01:28:27.780 --> 01:28:29.780] So what does the government up and do? [01:28:29.780 --> 01:28:35.780] They immediately write their own law that says if you speak about abolishing the government [01:28:35.780 --> 01:28:38.780] or destroying the government now we'll charge you with sedition [01:28:38.780 --> 01:28:40.780] Who's in violation here, us or them? [01:28:40.780 --> 01:28:46.780] Right, yeah because let me say they're in violation of that first amendment that says freedom of speech [01:28:46.780 --> 01:28:53.780] and so if you don't have the ability to criticize your government and say this ought to be rectified [01:28:53.780 --> 01:28:56.780] then do you really have freedom of speech? [01:28:56.780 --> 01:29:02.780] So I mean that's the problem, I mean throughout history governments [01:29:02.780 --> 01:29:05.780] and that's something that Thomas Jefferson recognized [01:29:05.780 --> 01:29:14.780] I think the quote by him is something along the lines that every other generation [01:29:14.780 --> 01:29:18.780] you know people have to fight for their freedom [01:29:18.780 --> 01:29:26.780] and that's because the founders understood that the natural tendency of government is to get [01:29:26.780 --> 01:29:32.780] to seek more and more power and you know I mean that's what we're seeing right now [01:29:32.780 --> 01:29:36.780] every time we turn around they're doing things to seek more and more power [01:29:36.780 --> 01:29:39.780] and of course that results in abuses [01:29:39.780 --> 01:29:59.780] Music [01:29:59.780 --> 01:30:02.780] Are you the plaintiff or defendant in a lawsuit? 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[01:33:08.780 --> 01:33:10.780] Right [01:33:10.780 --> 01:33:12.780] As long as you're on the receiving end, right? [01:33:12.780 --> 01:33:17.780] Right, right, but that's the thing, when you keep going like this [01:33:17.780 --> 01:33:21.780] where those in power are above the law [01:33:21.780 --> 01:33:25.780] then you end up with a third world country where it's not good for anyone [01:33:25.780 --> 01:33:34.780] because just like the prosecuting prince over in Flagler County discovered [01:33:34.780 --> 01:33:40.780] the prince's family is not safe from the enforcers [01:33:40.780 --> 01:33:45.780] Once you start making those exceptions, those exceptions tend to know no bounds [01:33:45.780 --> 01:33:50.780] Right, right, because when you give people the leeway to abuse their power [01:33:50.780 --> 01:33:52.780] they naturally will [01:33:52.780 --> 01:34:03.780] And there's a professor that's spent a long time studying the danger of governments with too much power [01:34:03.780 --> 01:34:07.780] and he's a professor emeritus at the University of Hawaii [01:34:07.780 --> 01:34:10.780] It's Professor Rudolph Rummel [01:34:10.780 --> 01:34:13.780] He has a book that says it's power kills [01:34:13.780 --> 01:34:21.780] and over 200 million people were murdered by their government in the 20th century [01:34:21.780 --> 01:34:26.780] and that's how dangerous an out of control government is [01:34:26.780 --> 01:34:37.780] and Congress has admitted that there's just a ton of abuse by law enforcement of innocent people quite often [01:34:37.780 --> 01:34:40.780] Oh yeah, well I've come to realize one thing [01:34:40.780 --> 01:34:44.780] There are two things in the world that government is not [01:34:44.780 --> 01:34:47.780] Moral and self-regulating [01:34:47.780 --> 01:34:50.780] Right, and that's why the founders designed [01:34:50.780 --> 01:34:55.780] That's why they gave us in the First Amendment the right to petition for redress of grievances [01:34:55.780 --> 01:34:59.780] which as the Supreme Court has said repeatedly [01:34:59.780 --> 01:35:06.780] gives us the right to file civil actions in court and to initiate criminal proceedings [01:35:06.780 --> 01:35:10.780] and when you're talking about initiating criminal proceedings [01:35:10.780 --> 01:35:20.780] probably the best expression of the value of that right comes from a case in the 1870s [01:35:20.780 --> 01:35:24.780] and it's Bly U versus U.S. [01:35:24.780 --> 01:35:28.780] and I'll read you the quote from that [01:35:28.780 --> 01:35:33.780] Basically this is Justice Joseph Bradley [01:35:33.780 --> 01:35:38.780] who authored this [01:35:38.780 --> 01:35:47.780] and he says in Bly U versus U.S. that's 80 U.S. 581 at 598 [01:35:47.780 --> 01:35:50.780] It's a U.S. Supreme Court case from 1871 [01:35:50.780 --> 01:35:56.780] He says, every citizen has a right to enter a complaint for a magistrate or the grand jury [01:35:56.780 --> 01:36:03.780] I say right for it is a right, an inestimable right, that of invoking the penalties of the law [01:36:03.780 --> 01:36:08.780] upon those who criminally or feloniously attack our persons or our property [01:36:08.780 --> 01:36:12.780] Civil society has deprived us of the natural right of avenging ourselves [01:36:12.780 --> 01:36:18.780] but it has preserved to us all the more jealously the right of bringing the offender to justice [01:36:18.780 --> 01:36:24.780] and he went on to say to deprive a whole class of the community of this right [01:36:24.780 --> 01:36:30.780] to refuse their evidence and their sworn complaints is to brand them with a badge of slavery [01:36:30.780 --> 01:36:34.780] is to expose them to wanton insults and fiendish assaults [01:36:34.780 --> 01:36:39.780] is to leave their lives, their families and their property unprotected by law [01:36:39.780 --> 01:36:43.780] and he's exactly correct [01:36:43.780 --> 01:36:51.780] and once again while our great grandparents, great grandfathers were fighting fascists in Europe [01:36:51.780 --> 01:36:56.780] during World War II, the fascists in power in our country [01:36:56.780 --> 01:37:00.780] slipped in the federal rules of criminal procedure [01:37:00.780 --> 01:37:06.780] and used a lowly rule of criminal procedure to trump a constitutional right [01:37:06.780 --> 01:37:14.780] and it's been sort of downhill since then [01:37:14.780 --> 01:37:17.780] Sounds about par [01:37:17.780 --> 01:37:21.780] I mean that's the thing, that's one of the reasons I like your show [01:37:21.780 --> 01:37:24.780] I mean Randy's been talking about this right, Deborah's been talking about this right [01:37:24.780 --> 01:37:27.780] I'm sure you've been talking about it too [01:37:27.780 --> 01:37:30.780] and it's a right that's been hidden from everyone [01:37:30.780 --> 01:37:33.780] because the government educational system doesn't talk about the right [01:37:33.780 --> 01:37:36.780] the law schools don't talk about the right [01:37:36.780 --> 01:37:41.780] and you know I discovered it from running up against corruption [01:37:41.780 --> 01:37:48.780] and providing evidence of felonies, documentary evidence of felonies being committed to the FBI and the FTLE [01:37:48.780 --> 01:37:51.780] and the US attorney and the state attorney [01:37:51.780 --> 01:37:56.780] and rather than them doing anything, I was prosecuted by the state attorney [01:37:56.780 --> 01:37:59.780] for exposing criminal conduct [01:37:59.780 --> 01:38:04.780] Well of course, better he prosecutes you than you get him over a barrel right? [01:38:04.780 --> 01:38:09.780] Right, because you know the aristocrats got to stick up for each other [01:38:09.780 --> 01:38:11.780] I mean that's one of the things the founders understood [01:38:11.780 --> 01:38:19.780] I mean there was a movement at one point right after the revolution to establish a new monarchy [01:38:19.780 --> 01:38:23.780] and you know most of the founders rejected that [01:38:23.780 --> 01:38:33.780] because they understood that the most wise and benevolent ruler can be followed by a fool or a ruthless tyrant [01:38:33.780 --> 01:38:40.780] and so they had experienced the injustice of a monarchy where the aristocrats are above the law [01:38:40.780 --> 01:38:45.780] and can treat the citizens like serfs or slaves [01:38:45.780 --> 01:38:53.780] and so they provided in their constitution rights for us to hold government agents criminally accountable [01:38:53.780 --> 01:38:56.780] and the problem is that they trounce those rights [01:38:56.780 --> 01:38:59.780] they stand and bar the door to the grand jury [01:38:59.780 --> 01:39:05.780] which is made up of citizens so citizens can't present evidence directly to other citizens too [01:39:05.780 --> 01:39:11.780] if they saw for instance that the loan documents were flimflammed and changed [01:39:11.780 --> 01:39:19.780] so that someone's interest rate went from 3% and they were expecting a maximum jump of 2% [01:39:19.780 --> 01:39:25.780] because they had paperwork saying we'll give you a 3% adjustable rate with a 2% cap on the first adjustment [01:39:25.780 --> 01:39:28.780] and then lo and behold the first adjustment it goes to 7% [01:39:28.780 --> 01:39:32.780] and the bank says oh well that's not what the loan documents say [01:39:32.780 --> 01:39:36.780] and the person keeps complaining because they can't pay [01:39:36.780 --> 01:39:39.780] once their interest rate has more than doubled [01:39:39.780 --> 01:39:44.780] Mark, we have a couple of callers that have been waiting a very long time [01:39:44.780 --> 01:39:47.780] and we're getting to the last segment [01:39:47.780 --> 01:39:50.780] would you like to take a couple of those calls? [01:39:50.780 --> 01:39:51.780] sure [01:39:51.780 --> 01:39:56.780] maybe they'll ask you a really hard question that you can't answer [01:39:56.780 --> 01:39:59.780] okay, okay [01:39:59.780 --> 01:40:01.780] where are we? [01:40:01.780 --> 01:40:05.780] John from Texas [01:40:05.780 --> 01:40:11.780] John, do you have a question for Mark or Eddie or myself? [01:40:11.780 --> 01:40:17.780] well, first I'd like to mention a few things [01:40:17.780 --> 01:40:23.780] in Texas the state attorney general has some discretion [01:40:23.780 --> 01:40:27.780] to call a grand jury on his own initiative [01:40:27.780 --> 01:40:31.780] or to appear before any grand jury in the state [01:40:31.780 --> 01:40:41.780] and although the state constitution gives priority to local DAs to initiate criminal prosecutions [01:40:41.780 --> 01:40:49.780] the attorney general can initiate investigations of local officials including local DAs [01:40:49.780 --> 01:40:53.780] can you tell me where that's at? [01:40:53.780 --> 01:40:59.780] because all I can find about the attorney general [01:40:59.780 --> 01:41:05.780] is that he has no prosecutorial power on his own [01:41:05.780 --> 01:41:09.780] except for one circumstance [01:41:09.780 --> 01:41:16.780] and that's when a complaint is filed against a prosecuting attorney [01:41:16.780 --> 01:41:19.780] for violation of the open records act [01:41:19.780 --> 01:41:27.780] that's the only time I can find where the attorney general becomes the prosecutor of original jurisdiction [01:41:27.780 --> 01:41:31.780] and I realize that's not specifically what you're speaking to [01:41:31.780 --> 01:41:39.780] but you're saying that the attorney general can actually have the ability [01:41:39.780 --> 01:41:43.780] if he has the ability, he has the duty to bring a criminal prosecution [01:41:43.780 --> 01:41:45.780] or at least bring an accusation [01:41:45.780 --> 01:41:49.780] not exactly to convene a grand jury [01:41:49.780 --> 01:41:55.780] the complainant would be presumably another citizen [01:41:55.780 --> 01:41:59.780] so is he considered a prosecutor in the same terms [01:41:59.780 --> 01:42:04.780] than any other he is under article 2.03? [01:42:04.780 --> 01:42:09.780] 2.03 says that when a prosecuting attorney is made known that a public official has violated a law relating to his office [01:42:09.780 --> 01:42:14.780] he shall reduce complaint from information submitted to grand jury, no discretion [01:42:14.780 --> 01:42:16.780] that's right [01:42:16.780 --> 01:42:19.780] is the attorney general in that position? [01:42:19.780 --> 01:42:23.780] because I would sure like to kick his behind [01:42:23.780 --> 01:42:29.780] well, let me point out at the risk of sounding like I'm self promoting here [01:42:29.780 --> 01:42:37.780] that I am a candidate for Texas Attorney General [01:42:37.780 --> 01:42:41.780] wait, we need to know more about this [01:42:41.780 --> 01:42:49.780] I am the only one who filed for the nomination of the libertarian party for Texas Attorney General [01:42:49.780 --> 01:42:55.780] so unless I'm beat out by none of the above, in June I will be nominated [01:42:55.780 --> 01:43:02.780] you may actually have a chance because right now all the incumbents that are in office now [01:43:02.780 --> 01:43:07.780] can almost certainly hear the toilet flushing [01:43:07.780 --> 01:43:14.780] well, I want you to keep that in mind because when I speak about what the attorney general can do [01:43:14.780 --> 01:43:17.780] that's giving you a hint as to what I might do [01:43:17.780 --> 01:43:18.780] wonderful [01:43:18.780 --> 01:43:23.780] in fact on my website I've come right out and said what I would do [01:43:23.780 --> 01:43:27.780] send me an email, a link to your website, I would sure like to look at it [01:43:27.780 --> 01:43:31.780] we might want to interview you on your platform [01:43:31.780 --> 01:43:38.780] in that case, it's johnroland.org [01:43:38.780 --> 01:43:42.780] j-o-n-r-o-l-a-n-d.org [01:43:42.780 --> 01:43:45.780] j-o-n-r-o-l-a-n-d.org [01:43:45.780 --> 01:43:50.780] okay, hang on, we'll bring you back up on the other side [01:43:50.780 --> 01:43:52.780] this is [01:43:52.780 --> 01:44:05.780] David's, Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton, a little long [01:44:05.780 --> 01:44:10.780] aerial spraying, chemtrails, the modified atmosphere [01:44:10.780 --> 01:44:17.780] heavy metals and pesticides, carcinogens and chemical fibers all falling from the sky [01:44:17.780 --> 01:44:25.780] you have a choice to keep your body clean, detoxify with micro plant powder from hempusa.org [01:44:25.780 --> 01:44:30.780] or call 908-691-2608 [01:44:30.780 --> 01:44:35.780] it's odorless and tasteless and used in any liquid or food [01:44:35.780 --> 01:44:38.780] protect your family now with micro plant powder [01:44:38.780 --> 01:44:42.780] cleaning out heavy metals, parasites and toxins [01:44:42.780 --> 01:44:47.780] order it now for daily intake and stock it now for long term storage [01:44:47.780 --> 01:44:50.780] visit hempusa.org [01:44:50.780 --> 01:44:55.780] or call 908-691-2608 today [01:45:06.780 --> 01:45:08.780] hello [01:45:08.780 --> 01:45:11.780] oh man, you're in jail [01:45:11.780 --> 01:45:14.780] oh man, I'm broke [01:45:20.780 --> 01:45:24.780] some things in this world I will never understand [01:45:24.780 --> 01:45:28.780] some things I realize fully [01:45:28.780 --> 01:45:33.780] somebody's going to police that policeman [01:45:33.780 --> 01:45:41.780] okay, we are back, we've got the libertarian candidate for attorney general here in Texas [01:45:41.780 --> 01:45:46.780] John Roland, okay, so what's the website, let's do some promo, we've got to get you elected [01:45:46.780 --> 01:45:53.780] okay, well first of all the website is currently not pointed at my attorney general candidacy [01:45:53.780 --> 01:45:57.780] it's pointed to my senatorial candidacy [01:45:57.780 --> 01:46:04.780] so if Kay Bailey resigns in March, I may be a candidate for both offices [01:46:04.780 --> 01:46:06.780] which should be interesting [01:46:06.780 --> 01:46:12.780] hopefully she won't, I hate to, I don't want you to dash your hopes [01:46:12.780 --> 01:46:17.780] but hopefully Medina will win the primaries, I really hope so [01:46:17.780 --> 01:46:23.780] no, no, if Medina wins, Kay Bailey says she'll resign from the senate [01:46:23.780 --> 01:46:27.780] yeah, but Kay Bailey is a politician [01:46:27.780 --> 01:46:36.780] wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, Kay Bailey, Kay Bailout is going to resign if she does not win the primary, that doesn't make any sense [01:46:36.780 --> 01:46:38.780] we can only hope [01:46:38.780 --> 01:46:46.780] but wait a minute, because if she does get the primary, then she's going to have to resign anyway in order to be governor [01:46:46.780 --> 01:46:49.780] so I don't get that, that means that she's just resigning either way [01:46:49.780 --> 01:46:53.780] wait a minute, you forget this is a politician [01:46:53.780 --> 01:46:56.780] so I guess she's just resigning either way then, that's odd [01:46:56.780 --> 01:46:58.780] yeah, that'll be the day, Debra [01:46:58.780 --> 01:47:00.780] yeah, good chance she'll change her mind [01:47:00.780 --> 01:47:03.780] strange, I wonder why she would say such a thing [01:47:03.780 --> 01:47:07.780] if she goes, you don't vote for me, I'm going to run away [01:47:07.780 --> 01:47:09.780] yeah, crap-hole [01:47:09.780 --> 01:47:10.780] okay, anyway [01:47:10.780 --> 01:47:12.780] don't run, let us push you [01:47:12.780 --> 01:47:13.780] okay, go ahead, John [01:47:13.780 --> 01:47:17.780] let me make a few points there, before we run out of time [01:47:17.780 --> 01:47:24.780] one of my current proposals, you may have heard a lot of this discussion about nullification [01:47:24.780 --> 01:47:26.780] jury nullification [01:47:26.780 --> 01:47:33.780] with all the excitement about it, I decided to dust off an old idea I had from many years ago [01:47:33.780 --> 01:47:41.780] and I put it on my blog and eventually it'll make its way to Constitution.org [01:47:41.780 --> 01:47:54.780] but at constitutionalism.blogspot.com you'll see a fairly detailed proposal for how to do nullification right [01:47:54.780 --> 01:48:02.780] and the way you do it right is because right now everybody's talking in terms of state resolutions [01:48:02.780 --> 01:48:08.780] making it even illegal to require anyone to pay for his insurance [01:48:08.780 --> 01:48:11.780] the federal statutes to do that [01:48:11.780 --> 01:48:13.780] wait a minute, nullification, explain [01:48:13.780 --> 01:48:15.780] at the moment it doesn't [01:48:15.780 --> 01:48:22.780] he's talking about state legislative nullification of federal bills [01:48:22.780 --> 01:48:26.780] like the Firearms Act and the Communications Freedom Act [01:48:26.780 --> 01:48:30.780] House Bill 2812 in Oklahoma [01:48:30.780 --> 01:48:33.780] the one that I'm helping Charles Key with [01:48:33.780 --> 01:48:34.780] yes [01:48:34.780 --> 01:48:36.780] that kind of nullification [01:48:36.780 --> 01:48:44.780] so anyway, the problem comes to the fore here in Texas because the legislature only meets every two years [01:48:44.780 --> 01:48:47.780] they don't have a lot of time when they do [01:48:47.780 --> 01:48:52.780] and there's no way that a state legislature like Texas especially [01:48:52.780 --> 01:48:57.780] could chase after every federal statute that violated the Constitution [01:48:57.780 --> 01:49:00.780] especially when it hasn't been adopted yet [01:49:00.780 --> 01:49:06.780] so what I'm proposing is a constitutional amendment that would create [01:49:06.780 --> 01:49:11.780] what was being informally called a nullification commission [01:49:11.780 --> 01:49:17.780] and more formally a federal action review commission [01:49:17.780 --> 01:49:20.780] which would be essentially a grand jury [01:49:20.780 --> 01:49:26.780] but it would meet continuously with rotating membership [01:49:26.780 --> 01:49:28.780] it would meet at least once a week [01:49:28.780 --> 01:49:33.780] it would hear complaints from citizens about unconstitutional federal actions [01:49:33.780 --> 01:49:38.780] and if it found the action was unconstitutional [01:49:38.780 --> 01:49:47.780] the finding would have the force of law for all state agencies, officials, and agents [01:49:47.780 --> 01:49:54.780] requiring that they refuse to cooperate in any way with such federal action [01:49:54.780 --> 01:49:59.780] and I see that running afoul of the judiciary [01:49:59.780 --> 01:50:02.780] well, let me finish [01:50:02.780 --> 01:50:07.780] also urging all citizens to refuse to cooperate [01:50:07.780 --> 01:50:17.780] in other words, it would be mass civil disobedience led by an instrument of Texas government [01:50:17.780 --> 01:50:22.780] what about initiative in referendum? [01:50:22.780 --> 01:50:29.780] well, that's for initiating things like constitutional amendments at the state level [01:50:29.780 --> 01:50:32.780] that doesn't have anything to do with federal acts [01:50:32.780 --> 01:50:36.780] well, that's what you were speaking to is a constitutional amendment [01:50:36.780 --> 01:50:41.780] no, it would be an amendment to the state constitution to create the commission [01:50:41.780 --> 01:50:46.780] but once the commission was created and it went into operation [01:50:46.780 --> 01:50:52.780] then what it would be doing is leading mass civil disobedience [01:50:52.780 --> 01:51:00.780] on the part of the citizens and officials of Texas to the unconstitutional federal actions [01:51:00.780 --> 01:51:07.780] and it's not even that much civil disobedience because most of those laws don't apply to us anyway [01:51:07.780 --> 01:51:09.780] well, can I ask a question? [01:51:09.780 --> 01:51:13.780] not to sound like I'm a naysayer or don't want you running for office or anything [01:51:13.780 --> 01:51:17.780] but are you a licensed bar-carded attorney? [01:51:17.780 --> 01:51:18.780] no [01:51:18.780 --> 01:51:20.780] good, alright [01:51:20.780 --> 01:51:23.780] then I'll vote for you for attorney general [01:51:23.780 --> 01:51:28.780] but if you are a licensed attorney running for the office of attorney general [01:51:28.780 --> 01:51:32.780] and you maintain that license or that bar-card as the attorney general [01:51:32.780 --> 01:51:39.780] I'm going to sue you for a constitutional violation, division of powers [01:51:39.780 --> 01:51:49.780] on another subject, I have a collection of draft amendments on constitution.org [01:51:49.780 --> 01:51:54.780] if you click on political reform and scroll down you'll see them there [01:51:54.780 --> 01:51:59.780] and there's a whole bunch of mostly clarifying amendments [01:51:59.780 --> 01:52:06.780] to overturn all the bad presidents that are weighing us down [01:52:06.780 --> 01:52:10.780] not all of them of course, but most of the important ones [01:52:10.780 --> 01:52:19.780] wait a minute, clarifying amendments like in the essentially a statement of legislative intent? [01:52:19.780 --> 01:52:24.780] well in a sense, although it has more teeth to it than that [01:52:24.780 --> 01:52:28.780] because there are also procedural reforms that go with it [01:52:28.780 --> 01:52:33.780] but it for example defines what commerce is and is not [01:52:33.780 --> 01:52:38.780] it narrows the meaning of necessary and proper [01:52:38.780 --> 01:52:46.780] and it sets up standards of review and various other things like that [01:52:46.780 --> 01:52:53.780] there's one other piece of legislation I would like to suggest [01:52:53.780 --> 01:53:00.780] legislation that would render any public official without exception [01:53:00.780 --> 01:53:07.780] subject to civil litigation on an act of misfeasance, malfeasance [01:53:07.780 --> 01:53:10.780] or a violation of color of office [01:53:10.780 --> 01:53:17.780] yep and the legislation I want to see is empowerment of grand jury via funding [01:53:17.780 --> 01:53:20.780] they've already got all the statutory authority that they need [01:53:20.780 --> 01:53:24.780] but I want them to have every tool at their disposal [01:53:24.780 --> 01:53:27.780] that the district attorney does, if not more [01:53:27.780 --> 01:53:31.780] they need to have a staff, they need to have a council of their own [01:53:31.780 --> 01:53:36.780] and not take legal advice from the prosecutor anymore [01:53:36.780 --> 01:53:39.780] they need to have their own attorneys counseling them [01:53:39.780 --> 01:53:43.780] they need to be able to commission forensic laboratory analysis [01:53:43.780 --> 01:53:48.780] and private investigators and whatever else [01:53:48.780 --> 01:53:52.780] they need to have a full staff and full funding [01:53:52.780 --> 01:53:58.780] so that they can conduct the business of what needs to be done with the grand jury [01:53:58.780 --> 01:54:03.780] in both the shielding and the sword aspect [01:54:03.780 --> 01:54:06.780] they need to be doing their own investigations [01:54:06.780 --> 01:54:09.780] and not just believing whatever the prosecutor tells them [01:54:09.780 --> 01:54:13.780] I'm done with that man, grand jury needs to be funded [01:54:13.780 --> 01:54:19.780] except for the funding part of it, which would be another subject [01:54:19.780 --> 01:54:22.780] not really a constitutional issue [01:54:22.780 --> 01:54:28.780] you can't mandate funding in the constitution by good design [01:54:28.780 --> 01:54:34.780] but everything else is in my draft amendments that you've mentioned here so far [01:54:34.780 --> 01:54:38.780] well see they already have the authority to do that anyway [01:54:38.780 --> 01:54:40.780] I mean it's already in statute [01:54:40.780 --> 01:54:45.780] it's just the prosecutor just won't let them do it [01:54:45.780 --> 01:54:47.780] they don't know that that's their right [01:54:47.780 --> 01:54:53.780] yeah well part of what you have to do is to do other things [01:54:53.780 --> 01:55:00.780] like I'm currently working to reform the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills Standards [01:55:00.780 --> 01:55:07.780] for courses in American history and American government for our schools [01:55:07.780 --> 01:55:11.780] which will include teaching all this stuff [01:55:11.780 --> 01:55:14.780] so there are lots of different ways of tacking it [01:55:14.780 --> 01:55:22.780] yes and one of my favorites is separating the counselor from the school system [01:55:22.780 --> 01:55:28.780] and designating him an ombudsman to represent the child before the system [01:55:28.780 --> 01:55:34.780] best way we can teach the children about how this system works is to demonstrate it [01:55:34.780 --> 01:55:38.780] I'll go a little further than that, what I'm actually calling for [01:55:38.780 --> 01:55:45.780] although in stages is teaching the equivalent of the first two years of law school [01:55:45.780 --> 01:55:48.780] and while still a high school [01:55:48.780 --> 01:55:51.780] that would be great [01:55:51.780 --> 01:55:54.780] you should talk to Dr. Graves [01:55:54.780 --> 01:56:01.780] would be taught how to carry a case from inception to conclusion [01:56:01.780 --> 01:56:08.780] how to do legal research, how to use the law library, how to write pleadings [01:56:08.780 --> 01:56:11.780] boy the powers that be would hate that [01:56:11.780 --> 01:56:12.780] and how [01:56:12.780 --> 01:56:15.780] that's why I'm approaching it in stages [01:56:15.780 --> 01:56:18.780] good I'd like your approach [01:56:18.780 --> 01:56:21.780] if you're going, if you go to my website [01:56:21.780 --> 01:56:23.780] I've got more than one of them [01:56:23.780 --> 01:56:27.780] you'll find lots of interesting ideas [01:56:27.780 --> 01:56:30.780] which I think you might find worth reading [01:56:30.780 --> 01:56:33.780] John we have several more callers [01:56:33.780 --> 01:56:38.780] but not to cut you short but tomorrow we do a four hour show [01:56:38.780 --> 01:56:41.780] yeah we're not going to be able to take very many more callers [01:56:41.780 --> 01:56:43.780] we only got two minutes left [01:56:43.780 --> 01:56:44.780] yeah [01:56:44.780 --> 01:56:47.780] well I'm available to come on sometime [01:56:47.780 --> 01:56:49.780] well could you come on tomorrow night? [01:56:49.780 --> 01:56:50.780] sure, what time? [01:56:50.780 --> 01:56:52.780] we start at 8 o'clock [01:56:52.780 --> 01:56:57.780] but we do a four hour show, we can go through your whole platform [01:56:57.780 --> 01:56:58.780] okay great [01:56:58.780 --> 01:56:59.780] alright [01:56:59.780 --> 01:57:00.780] wonderful [01:57:00.780 --> 01:57:01.780] thank you [01:57:01.780 --> 01:57:02.780] let me make one more point [01:57:02.780 --> 01:57:04.780] yeah just go ahead and finish the show [01:57:04.780 --> 01:57:05.780] we're not going to be able to take callers [01:57:05.780 --> 01:57:07.780] we have a minute and a half left so go ahead [01:57:07.780 --> 01:57:10.780] okay, Art if he doesn't already have a website [01:57:10.780 --> 01:57:13.780] should put all of this stuff up on the website [01:57:13.780 --> 01:57:17.780] the scoundrels hate it when you publicize this stuff [01:57:17.780 --> 01:57:19.780] oh absolutely, absolutely [01:57:19.780 --> 01:57:21.780] and then we can point people to it [01:57:21.780 --> 01:57:23.780] and absolutely that's perfect [01:57:23.780 --> 01:57:28.780] I'm putting up, I own judicialconduct.com [01:57:28.780 --> 01:57:30.780] I also own bargrievance.com [01:57:30.780 --> 01:57:33.780] wait a minute, you own judicialmisconduct.com [01:57:33.780 --> 01:57:37.780] I also own judicialconduct and I will be putting up sites [01:57:37.780 --> 01:57:42.780] where people can go online and make up bar grievance [01:57:42.780 --> 01:57:45.780] fill out a form and it will create a bar grievance [01:57:45.780 --> 01:57:47.780] and post bar grievance on the website [01:57:47.780 --> 01:57:48.780] that's awesome [01:57:48.780 --> 01:57:52.780] and also judicialconduct complaints because once you file them [01:57:52.780 --> 01:57:54.780] they become secret, you can't reveal them [01:57:54.780 --> 01:57:58.780] but if my site creates them that secrecy doesn't come back to me [01:57:58.780 --> 01:58:02.780] so we're adding some tools [01:58:02.780 --> 01:58:05.780] all right, thank you so much John [01:58:05.780 --> 01:58:08.780] okay, see you tomorrow night [01:58:08.780 --> 01:58:11.780] okay and callers, I'm sorry Steve from California [01:58:11.780 --> 01:58:14.780] Shane, Mike, Mark, Mark I'm still hanging in there [01:58:14.780 --> 01:58:16.780] callers, call in tomorrow night [01:58:16.780 --> 01:58:19.780] we'll have John back on for a little while [01:58:19.780 --> 01:58:21.780] but we'll also be taking your calls [01:58:21.780 --> 01:58:24.780] stay tuned for endless fraud detection [01:58:24.780 --> 01:58:52.780] Steve Skidmore, Neil Switkowski coming right up [01:58:54.780 --> 01:59:01.780] this is Randall Kelton from Rule of Law Radio [01:59:01.780 --> 01:59:05.780] many of you have been helped by the informative programming on 90.1 [01:59:05.780 --> 01:59:07.780] now 90.1 needs your help [01:59:07.780 --> 01:59:12.780] the operators of 90.1 are in a legal battle with the FCC to stay on the air [01:59:12.780 --> 01:59:17.780] and they need letters from you listeners testifying that 90.1 serves the public interest [01:59:17.780 --> 01:59:21.780] by bringing truthful news and information that no other station does [01:59:21.780 --> 01:59:25.780] Brave New Books is not associated with the Austin Micro [01:59:25.780 --> 01:59:28.780] but they have agreed to help by collecting your letters [01:59:28.780 --> 01:59:32.780] please drop off or mail your letters to Brave New Books [01:59:32.780 --> 01:59:41.780] attention Austin Micro's 90.1, 1904 Guadalupe, Suite B, Austin, Texas 78705 [01:59:41.780 --> 01:59:44.780] there are also form letters at the bookstore that folks can just sign [01:59:44.780 --> 01:59:50.780] please help keep 90.1 on the air by getting your letters to Brave New Books as soon as possible [01:59:50.780 --> 01:59:54.780] let the FCC know that 90.1 serves the public interest [01:59:54.780 --> 02:00:21.780] by bringing truthful news and information that can't be found anywhere else