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[00:04.680 --> 00:08.840]  Militants in Iraq have used cheap, off-the-shelf software
[00:08.840 --> 00:13.520]  to intercept live video feeds from U.S. predator drones.
[00:13.520 --> 00:18.760]  Senior defense and intelligence officials said Iran-backed insurgents took advantage
[00:18.760 --> 00:22.960]  of an unprotected communications link in some of the drone systems.
[00:22.960 --> 00:27.840]  Shiite fighters in Iraq used a $26 software program
[00:27.840 --> 00:31.600]  like SkyGrabber to capture the feeds.
[00:31.600 --> 00:36.800]  Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair says the global economic crisis
[00:36.800 --> 00:42.680]  already looms as the most serious one in decades, if not in centuries.
[00:42.680 --> 00:46.880]  Blair made it clear that while unrest was currently only happening in Europe,
[00:46.880 --> 00:50.200]  he was worried that this could happen in the U.S.
[00:50.200 --> 00:55.480]  NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen arrived in Moscow Wednesday,
[00:55.480 --> 01:00.640]  asking Russia to support NATO with arms and military training in Afghanistan.
[01:00.640 --> 01:05.640]  Observers say Russian arms are reliable, better and easier to use
[01:05.640 --> 01:08.120]  under extreme conditions in Afghanistan.
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[01:12.440 --> 01:16.320]  A House of Representatives oversight subcommittee said Wednesday,
[01:16.320 --> 01:20.000]  it is investigating allegations that private security companies
[01:20.000 --> 01:23.560]  hired to protect U.S. military convoys in Afghanistan
[01:23.560 --> 01:28.240]  are paying off warlords and the Taliban to ensure safe passage.
[01:28.240 --> 01:31.160]  Committee Chairman Representative John Tierney said,
[01:31.160 --> 01:36.280]  if shown to be true, it would mean the United States is unintentionally engaged
[01:36.280 --> 01:40.760]  in a vast protection racket and indirectly funding the very insurgents
[01:40.760 --> 01:42.120]  we are trying to fight.
[01:42.120 --> 01:45.560]  Tierney's investigators have focused on eight trucking companies
[01:45.560 --> 01:50.920]  that share a $2.2 billion Pentagon contract to carry goods and material
[01:50.920 --> 01:54.200]  from main supply points inside Afghanistan
[01:54.200 --> 01:57.720]  to more than 100 forward operating bases in the country.
[01:57.720 --> 02:03.320]  Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has been named Time Magazine's
[02:03.320 --> 02:04.840]  Person of the Year.
[02:04.840 --> 02:08.800]  The website Infowars says Bernanke is being hailed as a savior
[02:08.800 --> 02:12.000]  after overseeing the worsening of the financial crisis,
[02:12.000 --> 02:15.160]  the looting of the American economy by foreign banks
[02:15.160 --> 02:17.080]  and the destruction of the dollar.
[02:17.080 --> 02:21.320]  Infowars says the magazine states Bernanke launched a campaign
[02:21.320 --> 02:25.560]  to demystify the Fed, yet Bernanke consistently lobbied
[02:25.560 --> 02:29.480]  to protect the Fed's independence while refusing to answer questions
[02:29.480 --> 02:31.200]  about its decision making.
[02:31.200 --> 02:35.840]  Infowars says Bernanke has overseen the handing over of trillions of dollars
[02:35.840 --> 02:40.000]  to foreign banks and has defied lawsuits in order to keep secret
[02:40.000 --> 02:42.040]  the money's destination.
[02:42.040 --> 02:46.280]  Infowars says the award should really have gone to Congressman Ron Paul
[02:46.280 --> 02:49.960]  who has consistently exposed how the Fed delivered the financial crisis
[02:49.960 --> 02:53.440]  to America and the world via excessive spending,
[02:53.440 --> 02:56.240]  debt expansion and monetary inflation.
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[04:15.640 --> 04:34.040]  All right, bad boys, what are you going to do when we come for you?
[04:34.040 --> 04:40.480]  Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Mike Maris, Debra Stevens,
[04:40.480 --> 04:45.840]  the whole crew here at RuleOfLawRadio, RuleOfLawRadio.com.
[04:45.840 --> 04:47.760]  We have a few announcements.
[04:47.760 --> 04:49.320]  We're going to have Mike Maris on tonight.
[04:49.320 --> 04:53.640]  He is actually on with us right now to give a report and an update
[04:53.640 --> 04:59.000]  since last Friday when he was a guest, but we have a few announcements to make.
[04:59.000 --> 05:03.480]  The seminar materials are ready for download, yay, finally.
[05:03.480 --> 05:05.040]  The audio is finished.
[05:05.040 --> 05:07.480]  I finished mastering and editing the audio finally.
[05:07.480 --> 05:08.640]  It was a huge job.
[05:08.640 --> 05:11.040]  It took me weeks and weeks, but we got it.
[05:11.040 --> 05:12.960]  I got it finished finally.
[05:12.960 --> 05:14.520]  It's uploaded to the server.
[05:14.520 --> 05:16.880]  Everything's set in place.
[05:16.880 --> 05:20.400]  All the materials from the seminar have been uploaded to the server.
[05:20.400 --> 05:22.280]  I've got the special download page.
[05:22.280 --> 05:25.120]  I've got the PayPal button, the whole nine yards.
[05:25.120 --> 05:31.600]  So now you too can participate in the RuleOfLawRadio traffic seminar put on by Eddie Craig
[05:31.600 --> 05:38.080]  and Randy Kelton and myself for the low, low price of 250 bucks.
[05:38.080 --> 05:42.680]  Now the video will be coming in a few weeks, but I had to finish editing all the audio
[05:42.680 --> 05:43.680]  first.
[05:43.680 --> 05:47.360]  I had to do all the audio editing before I could even give the stuff to my video editor
[05:47.360 --> 05:53.000]  because the video edits have to be matched to the audio edit.
[05:53.000 --> 06:00.280]  So that will be coming in a few weeks, but you can get the audio now and all the materials
[06:00.280 --> 06:05.120]  and a bunch of new documents that have been written since the seminar.
[06:05.120 --> 06:11.280]  Now folks who did attend the seminar, you will be getting an email from me shortly,
[06:11.280 --> 06:19.040]  probably later tonight with a username and password to access the download page so that
[06:19.040 --> 06:25.720]  you can download the audio and download the updated, Eddie's updated book, his 250 page
[06:25.720 --> 06:32.920]  book on the transportation code plus other documents and research tools as well, bouviers,
[06:32.920 --> 06:34.160]  blacks.
[06:34.160 --> 06:35.760]  There's a bunch of case law in there.
[06:35.760 --> 06:43.400]  I mean a literal smorgasbord of information that you will get as part of the seminar package.
[06:43.400 --> 06:48.320]  I actually can't directly sell some of these things, but we're just including them as freebies
[06:48.320 --> 06:52.440]  for download when you buy the seminar package.
[06:52.440 --> 06:57.760]  And of course the participants in the seminar will get the video for free as well once that
[06:57.760 --> 06:58.940]  is finished.
[06:58.940 --> 07:02.120]  So we got it in time for the Christmas holidays.
[07:02.120 --> 07:07.320]  So folks out there if you haven't gotten presents for your friends yet, family members, this
[07:07.320 --> 07:14.360]  will be a great gift and a great way to support rule of law radio, support the network, support
[07:14.360 --> 07:18.640]  this show, keep us on the air, help us pay for the infrastructure to do this and help
[07:18.640 --> 07:20.640]  us expand.
[07:20.640 --> 07:27.560]  And before we go to Mike Maris, we've got an update concerning the low power FM situation
[07:27.560 --> 07:28.560]  nationwide.
[07:28.560 --> 07:38.120]  There was a House bill that was passed today, and this is in DC, the Local Community Radio
[07:38.120 --> 07:45.880]  Act was passed that would potentially open up hundreds of new power, new low power FMs
[07:45.880 --> 07:52.200]  by requiring the FCC to do away with its third adjacent minimum separation requirement for
[07:52.200 --> 07:55.080]  most FMs.
[07:55.080 --> 08:01.740]  Right now there has to be more than three clicks away from any FM in order to put another
[08:01.740 --> 08:04.340]  station which is ridiculous.
[08:04.340 --> 08:06.080]  There's no interference.
[08:06.080 --> 08:08.800]  There's been studies done that show there's no interference.
[08:08.800 --> 08:16.960]  A 2003 MITRE study on low power FM said, we definitely know there will be no interference
[08:16.960 --> 08:22.040]  caused by reducing the required separation between new low power broadcasts and existing
[08:22.040 --> 08:23.040]  full power.
[08:23.040 --> 08:31.440]  Okay, so it's taken six years for that MITRE study to actually make any impact as far
[08:31.440 --> 08:33.880]  as legislation is concerned.
[08:33.880 --> 08:37.740]  Now we have a concern about this bill.
[08:37.740 --> 08:43.120]  Some people may say, yay, it sounds great on its face, but actually it's like, ooh,
[08:43.120 --> 08:50.720]  this could be really, really bad because there are no restrictions preventing mainstream
[08:50.720 --> 08:58.960]  media corporations, the five conglomerates, the five oligarchs of that control and run
[08:58.960 --> 09:06.560]  all media in this country except for ours and GCN and a few other networks like ours
[09:06.560 --> 09:14.000]  and people who run low power FMs, micro radio broadcasts and such.
[09:14.000 --> 09:20.000]  Except for that, five media oligarchs own and run all media in the country including
[09:20.000 --> 09:24.920]  all local TV stations, local newspapers, local radio stations, everything.
[09:24.920 --> 09:30.760]  And there's nothing in this bill to prevent those oligarchs from scarfing up in a big
[09:30.760 --> 09:38.760]  hurry potentially all the new licenses that could be created under this new house bill.
[09:38.760 --> 09:45.620]  So what we need to do is we need folks out there who are interested in this and who have
[09:45.620 --> 09:51.200]  a little bit of time, please contact your senators and your house reps because this
[09:51.200 --> 09:55.480]  bill will go back to the house obviously after the senate because there's going to be different
[09:55.480 --> 10:00.080]  versions and differences have to be worked out between the house bill and the senate
[10:00.080 --> 10:01.080]  bill.
[10:01.080 --> 10:09.200]  You need to lobby your legislators, senators and house members to modify this legislation
[10:09.200 --> 10:21.000]  to only allow local individuals who have never had a FCC license before to be allowed to
[10:21.000 --> 10:22.960]  apply for these licenses.
[10:22.960 --> 10:28.240]  If an entity, any corporate entity or any other entity, individual, whatever, already
[10:28.240 --> 10:35.840]  owns multiple licenses or any other license at all, then that can't be allowed because
[10:35.840 --> 10:42.800]  what's going to happen is it will seal up the airwaves and lock it down permanently
[10:42.800 --> 10:47.480]  preventing people like us from ever being able to access any airwaves at all.
[10:47.480 --> 10:55.160]  The only reason that the low power micros have been able to get by without being shut
[10:55.160 --> 11:00.300]  down is because the low power micros across the country are not causing any interference.
[11:00.300 --> 11:07.680]  But if they start, if the big media oligarchs start scarfing up all the new licenses that
[11:07.680 --> 11:12.400]  would be created under this house bill, there's not, there's definitely not going to be any
[11:12.400 --> 11:16.520]  room on the spectrum at all for people like us.
[11:16.520 --> 11:24.840]  So you need to lobby your legislators at the federal level to put in restrictions, serious
[11:24.840 --> 11:32.280]  restrictions on this bill to prevent the media oligarchs from scarfing up these licenses.
[11:32.280 --> 11:39.360]  So that's the update on the low power FM situation at the national level.
[11:39.360 --> 11:45.320]  And now we are ready to go to our guest who will be on with us for a little while, Mike
[11:45.320 --> 11:53.240]  Miras, with an update concerning what's been going on since he's been on as a guest this
[11:53.240 --> 11:57.640]  past Friday, Michael, thank you for joining us tonight.
[11:57.640 --> 11:58.640]  Thank you, Deb.
[11:58.640 --> 12:06.440]  I'm glad to be here as usual and Randy and Greg and everybody else.
[12:06.440 --> 12:12.680]  This is just something I got today, I don't know if you remember last Friday night I had
[12:12.680 --> 12:18.000]  a call in from a gentleman that I knew by the name of Mark from Rhode Island.
[12:18.000 --> 12:21.440]  And I've worked with Mark for a couple of years.
[12:21.440 --> 12:25.920]  We've gotten to know each other very well and he's been in the federal courts, it's
[12:25.920 --> 12:30.340]  either his third or fourth case, I forget which.
[12:30.340 --> 12:38.480]  This one was one of the tougher ones and the attorney is up against his very, very arrogant
[12:38.480 --> 12:45.760]  snide remarks hanging up on Mark when he calls to talk to him and this kind of stuff.
[12:45.760 --> 12:56.000]  And Mark today got an email from his legal assistant who's also an attorney and I'd
[12:56.000 --> 12:57.000]  just like to read it.
[12:57.000 --> 13:02.760]  It's only a couple of paragraphs but I think you'll get a kick out of it.
[13:02.760 --> 13:10.640]  This was a case, a little background, a case over credit card and major bank, I won't mention
[13:10.640 --> 13:14.440]  Mark's last name, I won't mention the name of the bank because I don't want to compromise
[13:14.440 --> 13:16.720]  anybody's situation at this point.
[13:16.720 --> 13:21.440]  But let me read the email, Mark forwarded it to me and this is signed by the attorney
[13:21.440 --> 13:22.440]  and what have you.
[13:22.440 --> 13:27.120]  This is up in Rhode Island, federal court up in Rhode Island in Providence.
[13:27.120 --> 13:36.120]  Big black letters bold at the top of the email page, it says for settlement purposes only
[13:36.120 --> 13:44.040]  offer to compromise not admissible under rule 408 of the federal rules of evidence and then
[13:44.040 --> 13:50.000]  it starts, dear Mr. Mark, I won't give you his last name so I'll just say Mark, dear
[13:50.000 --> 13:57.880]  Mr. Mark, this letter is an offer to compromise under rule 408 of the federal rules of evidence
[13:57.880 --> 13:58.880]  2009.
[13:58.880 --> 14:07.280]  As such, neither this letter nor any of the information contained herein may be admitted
[14:07.280 --> 14:09.840]  into evidence.
[14:09.840 --> 14:18.400]  New paragraph, I am authorized to offer you $2,500 on behalf of Blank Card Services North
[14:18.400 --> 14:23.520]  America to completely resolve this dispute.
[14:23.520 --> 14:29.160]  A complete resolution of this dispute means that you agree to dismiss the present lawsuit
[14:29.160 --> 14:35.760]  and release all claims that you asserted or might have asserted in the lawsuit relating
[14:35.760 --> 14:42.720]  to the disputed Fair Credit Reporting Act violations identified in your complaint.
[14:42.720 --> 14:52.880]  A complete resolution of this litigation will avoid additional expenditures and time and
[14:52.880 --> 14:54.360]  resources for all parties.
[14:54.360 --> 14:56.560]  I'll read that one more time.
[14:56.560 --> 15:03.720]  A complete resolution of this litigation will avoid additional expenditures of time and
[15:03.720 --> 15:05.760]  resources for all parties.
[15:05.760 --> 15:07.600]  They mean for themselves.
[15:07.600 --> 15:09.160]  Where have you heard that before?
[15:09.160 --> 15:14.160]  Like I said, they mean for themselves.
[15:14.160 --> 15:22.920]  New paragraph, and this is going to just about end it, in addition to the payment of $2,500,
[15:22.920 --> 15:29.560]  Blank Card Services will release the credit card debt and judgments.
[15:29.560 --> 15:36.600]  Please note that Blank Card will file a motion in the Rhode Island Superior Court to overturn
[15:36.600 --> 15:43.240]  the order you obtained that vacated Blank Card's valid judgments in the event this offer
[15:43.240 --> 15:46.840]  to compromise is rejected by you.
[15:46.840 --> 15:52.760]  This offer expires at 9 a.m. on Tuesday, December 22, 2009.
[15:52.760 --> 16:01.400]  Please contact me by then if you accept this offer, sincerely signed by the attorney.
[16:01.400 --> 16:06.040]  This is one of the things Mark talked about, overturning the judgments in the lower court
[16:06.040 --> 16:12.440]  because they were obtained, if you remember, by the National Arbitration Forum, the NAF,
[16:12.440 --> 16:16.720]  that got shut down for fraud.
[16:16.720 --> 16:25.040]  The big thing is that Mark got those judgments vacated with prejudice, which means you can't
[16:25.040 --> 16:26.040]  bring it again.
[16:26.040 --> 16:29.680]  So how the heck are they going to get it turned over?
[16:29.680 --> 16:34.120]  The judge ruled, I'm dismissing this thing with prejudice.
[16:34.120 --> 16:39.920]  Yeah, so that's like an empty threat in that letter, isn't it?
[16:39.920 --> 16:40.920]  It sure is.
[16:40.920 --> 16:41.920]  In that email.
[16:41.920 --> 16:42.920]  Okay, listen, we're going to break.
[16:42.920 --> 16:44.720]  I want to talk about this more on the other side.
[16:44.720 --> 16:52.120]  We've got Mike Amiris with us, callers on the line, 512-646-1984, and Randy's going
[16:52.120 --> 17:00.480]  to talk about some due process tonight too, we'll be right back.
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[18:16.440 --> 18:20.120]  Okay we are back with Michael Maris.
[18:20.120 --> 18:25.880]  Okay Michael, so the judge dismissed this with prejudice, so they can't bring it back anyway,
[18:25.880 --> 18:29.600]  and you were saying there is a big difference between filing a motion and actually having
[18:29.600 --> 18:30.600]  it done.
[18:30.600 --> 18:31.600]  Yeah, getting it done.
[18:31.600 --> 18:39.360]  They are going to file a motion to try to get it reinstated, but the judge has got the
[18:39.360 --> 18:40.360]  filing.
[18:40.360 --> 18:46.040]  There is a 42-page filing from the Attorney General of the State of Minnesota on these
[18:46.040 --> 18:52.080]  guys, why they shut them down, and I doubt like heck the judge is going to overturn that
[18:52.080 --> 18:53.600]  and look the other way.
[18:53.600 --> 19:00.240]  So I think there are chances of getting this reopened is slim to none.
[19:00.240 --> 19:06.800]  The other side of this whole thing is Mark, during this litigation process they pulled
[19:06.800 --> 19:10.800]  his credit report, and there is case law in the federal case, there is probably about
[19:10.800 --> 19:17.120]  20 cases about doing that, and it is impermissible to pull somebody's credit report when you
[19:17.120 --> 19:22.520]  are in litigation, and these guys pulled his credit report twice.
[19:22.520 --> 19:25.800]  And of course, how does he have proof of that?
[19:25.800 --> 19:32.440]  He also, during the discovery process, asked them to produce documents, and he told them
[19:32.440 --> 19:38.120]  to produce the credit reports you pulled, and they gave them to him, plus he can pull
[19:38.120 --> 19:43.600]  his own credit reports from the service he has, and he can see the inquiries on the report.
[19:43.600 --> 19:55.000]  So anyhow, the point is, it falls under Title 18, impermissible purpose, but it is punishable,
[19:55.000 --> 20:00.480]  it is actually construed as a felony, punishable by fine or imprisonment, or both, up to two
[20:00.480 --> 20:02.760]  years imprisonment.
[20:02.760 --> 20:06.800]  So what he was going to do, and he is going to go back and answer them this, and tell
[20:06.800 --> 20:10.120]  them, you know, he is going to ask them for more money, okay, there is no question about
[20:10.120 --> 20:14.280]  that, because now it becomes the proverbial use card thing, you know, well, yeah, you
[20:14.280 --> 20:20.760]  are offering me $2500, but, you know, I really want $5000, anyhow, he is going to go back
[20:20.760 --> 20:26.000]  in and send that to them and say, oh, by the way, if you don't want to settle, you know,
[20:26.000 --> 20:30.120]  we can move ahead on this case, but keep in mind, I am going to file another case against
[20:30.120 --> 20:37.320]  you, and I am coming after you, Mr. So-and-so, and the young lady that sent this email, who
[20:37.320 --> 20:43.840]  is a counselor at law, and the woman that pulled the credit report at the defendants,
[20:43.840 --> 20:48.760]  the card services company, okay, the bank that actually pulled the report, he is going
[20:48.760 --> 20:54.160]  to file a complaint in federal court against them for impermissibly pulling his credit
[20:54.160 --> 20:55.160]  report.
[20:55.160 --> 21:00.560]  So, you tell me what you want to do, that is your choice you have got, right?
[21:00.560 --> 21:03.360]  That can result in criminal allegations as well.
[21:03.360 --> 21:09.000]  Absolutely, under Title 18, very clear, invasion of privacy is part of it, okay?
[21:09.000 --> 21:10.000]  Amazing.
[21:10.000 --> 21:14.360]  And so, he is going to go back, I follow him, you know, be nice, don't get nasty, don't
[21:14.360 --> 21:18.560]  get mouthy, you know, tell him here is what you think, and let them go back.
[21:18.560 --> 21:23.600]  By law, they have got to go back to their client and present this to their client, you
[21:23.600 --> 21:27.360]  know, and their client may come back with a little higher figure, he will come down
[21:27.360 --> 21:32.600]  a little bit and it will settle, but this just happened today, he got emailed this morning
[21:32.600 --> 21:37.200]  and he forwarded it to me, we talked earlier today about it and, you know, how we should
[21:37.200 --> 21:41.240]  proceed with an answer to it and I kind of coached him on that and he is going to go
[21:41.240 --> 21:44.700]  back to him and hit him and I said, you know, at this point you can walk away from this
[21:44.700 --> 21:50.240]  whole thing and he is free and clear, he has got it and they are going to pay him $2,500
[21:50.240 --> 21:53.240]  to do that, okay?
[21:53.240 --> 21:58.000]  And you know, but he is so PO'd over the whole situation and you know, this lawyer,
[21:58.000 --> 22:04.520]  this was the lawyer that he was talking to and the lawyer told him, Mr. Mark, you should
[22:04.520 --> 22:10.560]  stay in a chiropractor and I will be the lawyer and hung up on him, okay?
[22:10.560 --> 22:19.360]  So, Mark is, yeah, so Mark is pretty PO'd, but you know, I go back to my little response,
[22:19.360 --> 22:22.360]  not bad for Beach Brum Pro-Salut again.
[22:22.360 --> 22:28.520]  You look who is kicking who's butt in court, now who should go back to doing what?
[22:28.520 --> 22:31.080]  Yeah, exactly, exactly.
[22:31.080 --> 22:34.080]  The attorney could always become a chiropractor.
[22:34.080 --> 22:41.920]  There you go, there you go, you know, exactly, exactly and you know, Mark was actually expecting
[22:41.920 --> 22:46.240]  to go to trial on this case and so he was kind of in shock today when he got it.
[22:46.240 --> 22:50.840]  I said, well, I said, it doesn't surprise me, they make a lot of threats and they are
[22:50.840 --> 22:54.920]  going to do this and do that and finally somebody gets a white bull bought and so you know,
[22:54.920 --> 22:56.960]  we are throwing good money after bad.
[22:56.960 --> 23:01.720]  We go to trial, it's going to cost us $20,000, you know, I mean, come on.
[23:01.720 --> 23:07.960]  So that's, he got his latest offer and that's the latest update, that was as of Friday.
[23:07.960 --> 23:15.760]  So if none of you have any further questions, did you want me to talk about the disc?
[23:15.760 --> 23:24.080]  Sure, absolutely and that product is available for purchase through ruleoflawradio.com on
[23:24.080 --> 23:25.080]  the home page.
[23:25.080 --> 23:30.200]  If you scroll down a little ways, you will see the blue banner talking about Michael,
[23:30.200 --> 23:32.880]  the proven Michael Mears method.
[23:32.880 --> 23:33.880]  So please go ahead.
[23:33.880 --> 23:39.040]  There was just one little comment I would like to make that something that you pointed
[23:39.040 --> 23:40.080]  to.
[23:40.080 --> 23:49.760]  One thing I find is that the closer the other party gets to giving in, the louder and more
[23:49.760 --> 23:51.760]  pompous they get.
[23:51.760 --> 23:52.760]  Exactly.
[23:52.760 --> 23:53.760]  Exactly.
[23:53.760 --> 23:59.520]  See, they were going to, in this case, more could have judgments in the lower court and
[23:59.520 --> 24:04.080]  they were going to pull them and actually they presented it to the federal court but
[24:04.080 --> 24:13.200]  the dummies presented three-year-old documents that weren't certified or notarized and Mark,
[24:13.200 --> 24:18.720]  like three days before they presented those documents, Mark had gone to the local superior
[24:18.720 --> 24:24.280]  court, talked to the judge, showed the judge the documents and the judge kicked the case
[24:24.280 --> 24:26.120]  right out.
[24:26.120 --> 24:30.400]  So they were presenting documents that were three years old, you could almost go after
[24:30.400 --> 24:35.240]  them for fraud on that because you're presenting documents that don't exist and he responded
[24:35.240 --> 24:40.000]  back and he says, you know, I went down to the local superior court down there or district
[24:40.000 --> 24:43.600]  court, whatever you want to call them, they're different in each state and I checked the
[24:43.600 --> 24:45.840]  records and I couldn't find any case on the records.
[24:45.840 --> 24:47.840]  What the heck are you talking about?
[24:47.840 --> 24:52.480]  Yeah, got it vacated, got it kicked out, okay?
[24:52.480 --> 24:58.600]  So and we knew they were going to use that as a defense, that's the only defense they
[24:58.600 --> 25:04.120]  had and the point is in these cases it's not about money, I keep going over that, it's
[25:04.120 --> 25:08.200]  about your civil rights being violated and that's what this is all about, that's your
[25:08.200 --> 25:15.160]  only defense and when they realize they can't bring that in after a while, the lights come
[25:15.160 --> 25:22.480]  on, the proverbial beer and the headlight type stuff and it's oh yeah, we have no defense,
[25:22.480 --> 25:26.280]  yeah, now you better talk about what you did wrong and the things you didn't do when I
[25:26.280 --> 25:32.440]  challenged you because that's why we're in this courtroom and it just works, it just
[25:32.440 --> 25:40.040]  works but these guys were being belligerent enough, Mark and I counseled over this well
[25:40.040 --> 25:45.760]  over a month ago and came up with that idea just to go down to the local court and present
[25:45.760 --> 25:52.440]  them with these forging papers from the attorney general of the state of Minnesota where NAF
[25:52.440 --> 25:56.960]  was, had gone after them for and shut them down for and he just showed the whole case
[25:56.960 --> 26:01.800]  and everything to the judge and the judge says I'm kicking this out, that's, you know,
[26:01.800 --> 26:08.400]  that judgment was fraudulently obtained so that's the point but talk about the disk,
[26:08.400 --> 26:15.680]  we've had some folks come in since Friday night, I think six folks have purchased the
[26:15.680 --> 26:22.360]  download, it's really not a disk folks, when you pay for this thing, we get notified and
[26:22.360 --> 26:27.440]  notified by PayPal and then we just send you an email to your email address and it's attached
[26:27.440 --> 26:34.960]  to a PDF document so it's like almost instantaneous and you'll have the disk on how to beat debt
[26:34.960 --> 26:40.560]  collectors, I don't like to say beat, the disk is actually entitled, the documents are
[26:40.560 --> 26:47.440]  titled how to stop debt collectors and I get emails from folks and, you know, it's been
[26:47.440 --> 26:52.800]  paid and I send them back a little email and here's the information, it's in PDF, almost
[26:52.800 --> 26:57.800]  immediate so there's hardly any time to wait and you'll get it very, very quickly.
[26:57.800 --> 27:05.440]  Yes, this is wonderful news, six have been sold just since last Friday and folks we really
[27:05.440 --> 27:12.080]  appreciate it because not only are you helping yourself, not only are you kicking these banksters
[27:12.080 --> 27:17.240]  square in the pants but you're also supporting rule of law radio networks so this is wonderful
[27:17.240 --> 27:18.240]  news.
[27:18.240 --> 27:23.680]  Exactly and I've even gotten a couple of emails where this one gentleman contacted me, he
[27:23.680 --> 27:27.520]  says, man, I'm going to get your information, he said, my wife is buying it for me for Christmas,
[27:27.520 --> 27:32.040]  I just want to let you know so there are even some sitting in the background, they're waiting
[27:32.040 --> 27:36.200]  to be downloaded as soon as they clear PayPal.
[27:36.200 --> 27:41.080]  That's wonderful news, that's wonderful news, this stuff really does work folks, it really
[27:41.080 --> 27:42.080]  does.
[27:42.080 --> 27:47.400]  Well, it does and I've done it long enough now and I work with so many people doing it,
[27:47.400 --> 27:48.640]  you've got to be attentive.
[27:48.640 --> 27:53.960]  One of the things, I did receive an email from a party today that asked me to print
[27:53.960 --> 27:59.160]  out all my cases from PACER, they said, well, we're not a member of PACER and I kind of
[27:59.160 --> 28:04.280]  responded and I'm always trying to be polite but when I get an email like that that says
[28:04.280 --> 28:11.000]  to me, you're not a member of PACER, it sends up a little flag for me that says, you know,
[28:11.000 --> 28:17.680]  one of the things you have to learn when you do this stuff is you've got to research things
[28:17.680 --> 28:23.720]  and the research is critical to winning in these cases, you know, know thy enemy as I
[28:23.720 --> 28:26.280]  always say, know thy enemy.
[28:26.280 --> 28:31.720]  You don't have to pay anything to be a member of PACER, now PACER is the government site
[28:31.720 --> 28:36.600]  where they keep all these records, when you take somebody into federal court, it's a public
[28:36.600 --> 28:40.640]  document, anybody can see the case.
[28:40.640 --> 28:47.200]  So I recommend that people go in and, you know, query my last name and see my cases,
[28:47.200 --> 28:55.720]  they're in there and to join PACER, there's no monies up front, you've got to have a debit
[28:55.720 --> 29:00.720]  card, a credit card and even the money order will work with them, you send them a money
[29:00.720 --> 29:07.080]  order for $10 or $20 and you get a credit but how they do it is they don't charge your
[29:07.080 --> 29:12.360]  money order or your credit card or anything like that until you run up over $10 worth
[29:12.360 --> 29:14.360]  of printouts.
[29:14.360 --> 29:22.040]  Printouts are 8 cents a page, so you could do 100 pages and that's, what, $8, okay?
[29:22.040 --> 29:28.640]  So you know, my cases, you could essentially print out the basic case to see what the complaint
[29:28.640 --> 29:34.040]  looks like and, you know, it might be 5 or 6 or 7 pages, and...
[29:34.040 --> 29:40.160]  All right, hold on, hold that thought, Mike, because we're going to break.
[29:40.160 --> 30:00.480]  And callers, if you'd like to call in 512-646-1984, we'll be right back with Michael Maris.
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[31:21.840 --> 31:41.480]  Okay, when you're going to stop abuse your power, well, we're making them stop.
[31:41.480 --> 31:42.800]  Mike Mears is making them stop.
[31:42.800 --> 31:44.920]  Okay, so please continue, Mike.
[31:44.920 --> 31:47.640]  You were discussing about PACER and...
[31:47.640 --> 31:52.600]  It's important to get in there and join up, if you're going to do this stuff and you're
[31:52.600 --> 31:56.200]  planning on taking these guys into federal court, if it goes that far, it doesn't always
[31:56.200 --> 31:57.200]  go that far.
[31:57.200 --> 32:01.800]  Generally, 50-50 on most of these, sometimes they just stop what they're doing and they
[32:01.800 --> 32:07.080]  want to settle with you right away upon notice of pending lawsuit that should set them prior
[32:07.080 --> 32:08.080]  to going into court.
[32:08.080 --> 32:11.280]  Give them a chance to fix the problem before you go in.
[32:11.280 --> 32:16.080]  But if you go into that federal court, you're going to need to access PACER and the reason,
[32:16.080 --> 32:18.800]  there's a couple of reasons, one is research purposes.
[32:18.800 --> 32:20.400]  Again, know thy enemy.
[32:20.400 --> 32:26.480]  If you're up against ABC Bank, you go into PACER and query ABC Bank and see how many
[32:26.480 --> 32:28.600]  times they've been sued.
[32:28.600 --> 32:32.600]  And you can look at all the cases there and see why they've been sued, and I'm pretty
[32:32.600 --> 32:38.760]  sure you'll find a case based on the same reason you're taking them in for.
[32:38.760 --> 32:44.260]  They've been through this before, okay, but what this does is just builds your confidence.
[32:44.260 --> 32:46.440]  You know what the heck is going on.
[32:46.440 --> 32:52.160]  The other part is, is once you do get into the federal court, you can generally obtain
[32:52.160 --> 32:59.340]  permission from the presiding judge to upload documents to PACER, okay?
[32:59.340 --> 33:06.680]  But the lawyers already have it, so when they file a response to a motion or a pleading
[33:06.680 --> 33:12.880]  or anything like that, the lawyers can upload it immediately from their office and it gives
[33:12.880 --> 33:15.360]  you the opportunity to see all this stuff.
[33:15.360 --> 33:19.120]  You don't have to wait for the mail, you don't know exactly what's going on.
[33:19.120 --> 33:24.720]  Yeah, and plus you want your side of the story being out on PACER too, not just their stuff.
[33:24.720 --> 33:31.600]  Exactly, but this is all part of the strategy and the knowledge and the learning base, okay?
[33:31.600 --> 33:35.560]  You would be shocked, you know, if you go in and look at some of these banks and credit
[33:35.560 --> 33:41.880]  card companies and you query some of these debt collectors, Wolprof and Averson, go and
[33:41.880 --> 33:43.920]  put them in there and see how many times.
[33:43.920 --> 33:48.600]  I remember I did that once and I think I got over five or six hundred lawsuits against
[33:48.600 --> 33:49.600]  these guys.
[33:49.600 --> 33:53.360]  You know, it would take me months to read all the lawsuits.
[33:53.360 --> 33:58.160]  So what that does for me in my mind, it reinforces what I'm doing.
[33:58.160 --> 34:00.320]  I'm doing the right thing.
[34:00.320 --> 34:02.720]  These guys, I'm not the first one to get these guys.
[34:02.720 --> 34:06.400]  These guys have done this stuff before.
[34:06.400 --> 34:13.440]  So it just builds your confidence to get the job done and it's very simple.
[34:13.440 --> 34:18.360]  If you have multiple cases that have to go into federal court, it's almost every case
[34:18.360 --> 34:24.280]  is a little different, but they'll come back with the same answers, the same arguments
[34:24.280 --> 34:27.960]  and then sometimes they'll settle very, very quickly and then sometimes they'll put up
[34:27.960 --> 34:28.960]  a big fight.
[34:28.960 --> 34:34.160]  You'll go on for months and months going through discovery and depositions and all that stuff.
[34:34.160 --> 34:40.280]  The bottom line is, I'll read that line again from the email from the lawyer that says the
[34:40.280 --> 34:47.000]  complete resolution of this litigation will avoid additional expenditures of time and
[34:47.000 --> 34:50.840]  resources for all parties.
[34:50.840 --> 34:51.840]  There you go.
[34:51.840 --> 34:55.200]  Isn't that sort of saying, uncle?
[34:55.200 --> 34:56.200]  Yeah.
[34:56.200 --> 34:57.200]  Yeah.
[34:57.200 --> 35:04.120]  And checking pager this way, when I do this kind of research, I get to use my most high
[35:04.120 --> 35:08.800]  lead focused skill, plagiarism.
[35:08.800 --> 35:09.800]  Yeah.
[35:09.800 --> 35:15.240]  I pull their documents down, put my name on it, make a couple of changes, zip.
[35:15.240 --> 35:16.240]  Yeah.
[35:16.240 --> 35:19.400]  If it ain't broke and it works, don't try and fix it.
[35:19.400 --> 35:20.400]  Absolutely.
[35:20.400 --> 35:21.800]  You need to be able to do that kind of research.
[35:21.800 --> 35:26.900]  Now Mike is going to get me the case numbers of all the cases that he's won in federal
[35:26.900 --> 35:32.960]  court and I will post those case numbers and the title of the cases on the information
[35:32.960 --> 35:38.840]  page of where you can order his product, but people, if you're on pacer, you don't even
[35:38.840 --> 35:39.840]  need that.
[35:39.840 --> 35:40.840]  Yeah.
[35:40.840 --> 35:41.840]  Yeah.
[35:41.840 --> 35:47.280]  Well, the point is, is on these cases, you'll see they were dismissed with prejudice by
[35:47.280 --> 35:48.280]  the plaintiff.
[35:48.280 --> 35:49.280]  Well, I was the plaintiff.
[35:49.280 --> 35:50.280]  Okay.
[35:50.280 --> 35:54.160]  The only reason I dismissed the case is because we reached a settlement agreement and that's
[35:54.160 --> 35:59.600]  exactly what I'm reading to you here from this email that I got from Mark today.
[35:59.600 --> 36:04.240]  They're saying you've got to dismiss the case, well, yeah, I'll dismiss the case, you know,
[36:04.240 --> 36:08.680]  they're paying him to go away, so you tell me if I want or not.
[36:08.680 --> 36:15.040]  Now will Mark's, will you be able to release the information on Mark's case once he's finished
[36:15.040 --> 36:16.040]  with it?
[36:16.040 --> 36:17.040]  Oh, of course.
[36:17.040 --> 36:18.040]  It's a public record.
[36:18.040 --> 36:19.040]  It's a public record.
[36:19.040 --> 36:20.040]  It's not a problem.
[36:20.040 --> 36:21.040]  It's not a problem.
[36:21.040 --> 36:22.040]  Yeah.
[36:22.040 --> 36:26.840]  I mean, I've got several other people that I've worked with that have had cases in there
[36:26.840 --> 36:31.280]  as well, you know, and, you know, we can reference those cases too.
[36:31.280 --> 36:35.400]  So this is not the first person I've ever worked with that's been in the federal courts
[36:35.400 --> 36:38.960]  over this stuff, although Mark is very, very aggressive.
[36:38.960 --> 36:39.960]  That's wonderful.
[36:39.960 --> 36:41.880]  Well, Mike, would you like to take some calls?
[36:41.880 --> 36:43.520]  We have a couple calls on the line.
[36:43.520 --> 36:44.520]  Sure.
[36:44.520 --> 36:45.520]  If somebody wants to talk to me anytime.
[36:45.520 --> 36:46.520]  Okay.
[36:46.520 --> 36:47.520]  Here we go.
[36:47.520 --> 36:48.520]  We're going to go to Russell in Texas.
[36:48.520 --> 36:49.520]  Russell, thanks for calling in.
[36:49.520 --> 36:50.520]  You have a question for Mike Mears?
[36:50.520 --> 36:56.720]  I just wanted to correct something he stated a while ago because I'm sure he forgot, but
[36:56.720 --> 37:01.400]  if you have a 100-page document on PACER, you only have to pay for the first 30 pages.
[37:01.400 --> 37:03.680]  Oh, there you go.
[37:03.680 --> 37:05.680]  The maximum they charge is $2.30.
[37:05.680 --> 37:06.680]  Oh, there you go.
[37:06.680 --> 37:07.680]  For one document, Russell?
[37:07.680 --> 37:13.240]  For one, you know, if it's over 30 pages, that's all you pay for.
[37:13.240 --> 37:17.200]  If it's a 100-page document, you still get the document.
[37:17.200 --> 37:20.840]  You don't have to pay for the first 30 pages.
[37:20.840 --> 37:21.840]  That's excellent.
[37:21.840 --> 37:25.640]  Well, I appreciate you clearing that up, sir.
[37:25.640 --> 37:33.240]  Well, I just, you know, I knew it was a slip, and you probably forgot, but no, you're right,
[37:33.240 --> 37:40.840]  and Deborah, I've got the cases of his, unless he's had something new since October, from
[37:40.840 --> 37:43.360]  a PACER printout I could send to you.
[37:43.360 --> 37:44.360]  Great.
[37:44.360 --> 37:45.360]  So there you go.
[37:45.360 --> 37:48.560]  It's already been corroborated by third party.
[37:48.560 --> 37:49.560]  Mike is for real.
[37:49.560 --> 37:51.040]  His cases are on PACER.
[37:51.040 --> 37:52.040]  People have already found them.
[37:52.040 --> 37:55.560]  It's pretty hard to make up stuff about this, let me tell you.
[37:55.560 --> 37:58.640]  If you haven't been through it, it's pretty difficult to make it up.
[37:58.640 --> 38:01.840]  Somebody would have to have a lot of Cajuntas, if you know what I mean, to come on the radio
[38:01.840 --> 38:06.880]  show where we're on 20 AM and FMs across the country and say that they've won six federal
[38:06.880 --> 38:10.720]  court cases and that it's available on PACER when it's really all a lie.
[38:10.720 --> 38:15.600]  I mean, I just can't imagine somebody doing something like that.
[38:15.600 --> 38:19.440]  If Babyface Mortland confirms it, it's confirmed.
[38:19.440 --> 38:20.440]  Absolutely.
[38:20.440 --> 38:25.480]  Also, PACER only, you only pay PACER every three months.
[38:25.480 --> 38:26.480]  Correct.
[38:26.480 --> 38:27.480]  Correct.
[38:27.480 --> 38:29.480]  They'll send you a bill every three months for whatever you've done.
[38:29.480 --> 38:30.480]  That's right.
[38:30.480 --> 38:31.480]  That's right.
[38:31.480 --> 38:36.480]  They only charge you, unless you go over $10, is what they do.
[38:36.480 --> 38:41.480]  I think the bill has to be over $10 for them to charge your card and all that stuff.
[38:41.480 --> 38:42.480]  Right.
[38:42.480 --> 38:43.480]  Yep.
[38:43.480 --> 38:44.480]  Yep.
[38:44.480 --> 38:45.480]  Yep.
[38:45.480 --> 38:46.480]  Yep.
[38:46.480 --> 38:47.480]  And then the nice thing is it resets.
[38:47.480 --> 38:48.480]  That's the part I like.
[38:48.480 --> 38:51.480]  I'm curious about Mark's case, because it's already in court.
[38:51.480 --> 38:54.480]  It's public, so you should be able to give that up.
[38:54.480 --> 38:56.480]  I don't have the number.
[38:56.480 --> 38:57.480]  Let me see.
[38:57.480 --> 38:58.480]  I don't think it was in here.
[38:58.480 --> 39:07.480]  They didn't reference it, but let me see.
[39:07.480 --> 39:10.480]  Are you not wanting to compromise Mike's current negotiation?
[39:10.480 --> 39:11.480]  Is that why?
[39:11.480 --> 39:12.480]  Yeah.
[39:12.480 --> 39:13.480]  You know, Mark's.
[39:13.480 --> 39:14.480]  Mark's is right.
[39:14.480 --> 39:15.480]  Yeah.
[39:15.480 --> 39:20.480]  I'm a little concerned about talking too much.
[39:20.480 --> 39:24.480]  You know, I don't know who's listening and who could pick up on this, and oh, I know
[39:24.480 --> 39:27.480]  who this is, and I'm going to go back and tell the lawyer.
[39:27.480 --> 39:31.480]  You know, I don't want him to be jeopardized at this point.
[39:31.480 --> 39:32.480]  Right.
[39:32.480 --> 39:36.480]  But that email is just nothing but a lawyer double-talk.
[39:36.480 --> 39:37.480]  Exactly.
[39:37.480 --> 39:38.480]  Exactly.
[39:38.480 --> 39:42.480]  It's scary getting to settle, and then that's it.
[39:42.480 --> 39:43.480]  Exactly.
[39:43.480 --> 39:50.480]  And Mark is in a situation where, you know, he is so PO'd over this whole thing because
[39:50.480 --> 39:54.480]  this guy that he's up against acts like, you know, he's been up against other attorneys
[39:54.480 --> 40:00.480]  who were gentlemen, you know, and this guy is just totally opposite, and he's just, you
[40:00.480 --> 40:07.480]  know, just nasty remarks and snide and so on and so forth, and it's just annoyed the
[40:07.480 --> 40:13.480]  guy to Mark, and he wants to file the back-debt Mark grievance against him as well for pulling
[40:13.480 --> 40:19.480]  the credit reports without permissible purpose, and so he's pretty PO'd, you know.
[40:19.480 --> 40:20.480]  Oh, yeah.
[40:20.480 --> 40:22.480]  He needs a nail in the back.
[40:22.480 --> 40:24.480]  And for good reason too.
[40:24.480 --> 40:25.480]  Exactly.
[40:25.480 --> 40:30.480]  So, you know, and of course I can't advise somebody to do, I can't tell you to, you
[40:30.480 --> 40:36.480]  know, I can't put a gun to your head and make you go ahead and do things, you know, you
[40:36.480 --> 40:42.480]  need to do this, you need to do that, and I'll help you as much as I can, but, you know,
[40:42.480 --> 40:46.480]  he's got an offer to settle here right now, and I says, you have to weigh that, Mark.
[40:46.480 --> 40:50.480]  I says, against what's at stake, and, you know, if you want to continue, and he says,
[40:50.480 --> 40:53.480]  well, he says, I put a lot of time into this thing, and he says, and I want to get paid
[40:53.480 --> 40:54.480]  for some of my time.
[40:54.480 --> 40:56.480]  I says, well, I understand that.
[40:56.480 --> 41:00.480]  I bet you if he threatens that attorney with some bar grievances and stuff, I bet he gets
[41:00.480 --> 41:01.480]  more money.
[41:01.480 --> 41:03.480]  Yeah, I bet you you're right.
[41:03.480 --> 41:06.480]  People got to realize what power those bar grievances are.
[41:06.480 --> 41:11.480]  Even if they've lost a case, they can still use that bar grievance to pay that attorney
[41:11.480 --> 41:13.480]  or that law firm back.
[41:13.480 --> 41:17.480]  It might take a year or so, but it'll definitely get them.
[41:17.480 --> 41:22.480]  Yeah, and up there where he's at in Providence, they don't have a, the Bar Association doesn't
[41:22.480 --> 41:23.480]  accept the complaint.
[41:23.480 --> 41:28.480]  It goes to the Supreme Court or something in the state that actually accepts the, you
[41:28.480 --> 41:31.480]  know, the bar, the grievance.
[41:31.480 --> 41:33.480]  That's even more powerful up there.
[41:33.480 --> 41:42.480]  Wasn't Rhode Island the state that took the attorney's monopoly away?
[41:42.480 --> 41:46.480]  What do you call that, sunshine law or whatever?
[41:46.480 --> 41:47.480]  My event.
[41:47.480 --> 41:49.480]  I remember something vaguely about that.
[41:49.480 --> 41:55.480]  Where you don't really have to be a bar card to represent anybody in court or whatever.
[41:55.480 --> 41:57.480]  Yeah, that could have been.
[41:57.480 --> 41:58.480]  That could have been.
[41:58.480 --> 41:59.480]  That's Rhode Island.
[41:59.480 --> 42:01.480]  It's a tough, tough area.
[42:01.480 --> 42:06.480]  The Northeast is generally pretty tough on the laws, and I think they look down on the
[42:06.480 --> 42:10.480]  proceeds a little bit more there than they do in some of the other district courts that
[42:10.480 --> 42:12.480]  I've dealt with and been in.
[42:12.480 --> 42:17.480]  But on the other hand, I don't know anybody that I know that I've helped with with this
[42:17.480 --> 42:19.480]  stuff who has lost a case.
[42:19.480 --> 42:20.480]  They've never been kicked out of court.
[42:20.480 --> 42:23.480]  They've never been told not to come back.
[42:23.480 --> 42:25.480]  You know, just, you know.
[42:25.480 --> 42:29.480]  They've never been told they're a vexatious litigant or anything like that.
[42:29.480 --> 42:30.480]  Right.
[42:30.480 --> 42:31.480]  Exactly.
[42:31.480 --> 42:33.480]  Privilege in the federal.
[42:33.480 --> 42:34.480]  Exactly.
[42:34.480 --> 42:38.480]  You know, I've never had anybody come back and say to me, man, they kicked me out of
[42:38.480 --> 42:39.480]  the court.
[42:39.480 --> 42:40.480]  Don't ever come back.
[42:40.480 --> 42:41.480]  Never had that happen.
[42:41.480 --> 42:42.480]  That's wonderful.
[42:42.480 --> 42:43.480]  That's a good thing.
[42:43.480 --> 42:46.480]  Well, most of the time because of that is you're being able to settle this thing before it
[42:46.480 --> 42:48.480]  actually even goes to trial.
[42:48.480 --> 42:49.480]  Exactly.
[42:49.480 --> 42:50.480]  Exactly.
[42:50.480 --> 42:54.480]  What you've got to settle between the parties, the judge can't interfere with anything.
[42:54.480 --> 42:55.480]  That's right.
[42:55.480 --> 43:00.480]  And however, I do know a guy I'm working with, you know, he pulls some pretty neat stuff.
[43:00.480 --> 43:08.480]  I'm working with a guy out in Las Vegas who does the foreclosure thing, and this one fellow
[43:08.480 --> 43:15.480]  that works with him has had 67, 62 or 67, don't hold me to the number of foreclosures
[43:15.480 --> 43:21.480]  reversed and the people got their houses back in federal court, but he makes, he takes the
[43:21.480 --> 43:28.480]  settlement agreement into the judge and makes the judge ratify the settlement agreement
[43:28.480 --> 43:34.480]  and then it becomes part of the case and because it's a confidentiality agreement, they black
[43:34.480 --> 43:35.480]  the case out.
[43:35.480 --> 43:36.480]  Yeah.
[43:36.480 --> 43:37.480]  Wow.
[43:37.480 --> 43:38.480]  Okay.
[43:38.480 --> 43:39.480]  Well, listen, we're going to break.
[43:39.480 --> 43:41.480]  Russell, do you have any more for us?
[43:41.480 --> 43:42.480]  No, that's it.
[43:42.480 --> 43:43.480]  Okay.
[43:43.480 --> 43:44.480]  Well, stay on the line.
[43:44.480 --> 43:45.480]  I want to ask you something on the break.
[43:45.480 --> 43:46.480]  All right.
[43:46.480 --> 43:49.480]  And when we come back, we're going to go to Dominic in Texas.
[43:49.480 --> 43:52.480]  Callers, if you'd like to call him, 512-646-1984.
[43:52.480 --> 43:54.480]  Mike from Florida is waiting as well.
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[45:20.480 --> 45:49.480]  Okay, we are back.
[45:49.480 --> 45:50.480]  We're taking our calls.
[45:50.480 --> 45:54.480]  We're here with our very special surprise last minute guest, Michael Maris.
[45:54.480 --> 45:58.480]  He just called a few minutes before the show to tell me all this good news.
[45:58.480 --> 45:59.480]  And I said, well, why don't you come on?
[45:59.480 --> 46:00.480]  And he said, sure.
[46:00.480 --> 46:03.480]  I was like, great, awesome.
[46:03.480 --> 46:05.480]  Things are going our way.
[46:05.480 --> 46:08.480]  Okay, so we're going now to Dominic in Texas.
[46:08.480 --> 46:13.480]  And callers, if you'd like to call in and ask Michael Maris a question, 512-646-1984.
[46:13.480 --> 46:15.480]  Here we go with Dominic.
[46:15.480 --> 46:16.480]  Thanks for calling in, Dominic.
[46:16.480 --> 46:19.480]  What is your question or comment for our guest?
[46:19.480 --> 46:21.480]  How are you all doing tonight, first of all?
[46:21.480 --> 46:22.480]  Pretty good.
[46:22.480 --> 46:26.480]  I'm doing excellent, very good, especially because I finished the audio for the seminar.
[46:26.480 --> 46:31.480]  So believe me, I am doing real good right now and a whole bunch of people buy it.
[46:31.480 --> 46:33.480]  But at least I'm done with it.
[46:33.480 --> 46:34.480]  So I'm very happy about that.
[46:34.480 --> 46:36.480]  So go ahead.
[46:36.480 --> 46:39.480]  Yes, I have one question for Mr. Maris.
[46:39.480 --> 46:47.480]  I obtained the course and I haven't been able to see anything on there about, like,
[46:47.480 --> 46:53.480]  if the debt collector leaves the voicemail on your answering machine.
[46:53.480 --> 47:00.480]  This is from a debt collector that gives a little mini Miranda?
[47:00.480 --> 47:01.480]  Right.
[47:01.480 --> 47:03.480]  Are you supposed to do it?
[47:03.480 --> 47:10.480]  No, actually, here's the thing, okay, on the message machine.
[47:10.480 --> 47:12.480]  The answer is no, they're not supposed to do it.
[47:12.480 --> 47:16.480]  However, here is the caveat.
[47:16.480 --> 47:18.480]  It must have public access.
[47:18.480 --> 47:25.480]  In other words, someone other than yourself, your immediate family who could hear that
[47:25.480 --> 47:28.480]  would make them liable at that point.
[47:28.480 --> 47:34.480]  So if this is in your home and they call and left the message, it's kind of like a moot point,
[47:34.480 --> 47:39.480]  okay, because there's no one else that has access to it.
[47:39.480 --> 47:45.480]  Now, you could certainly bring that into the case and say, and my answer is quite simple,
[47:45.480 --> 47:47.480]  let's let the judge and jury decide.
[47:47.480 --> 47:51.480]  Well, yeah, what if you have roommates or something or what if you don't want your kids to hear it?
[47:51.480 --> 47:52.480]  Exactly.
[47:52.480 --> 47:55.480]  I mean, just because it's in your home doesn't mean that it's private.
[47:55.480 --> 47:58.480]  Exactly, and that is the point.
[47:58.480 --> 48:03.480]  See, that's sharing the information, and if you look in the law,
[48:03.480 --> 48:08.480]  you'll see about sharing the information with third parties, okay?
[48:08.480 --> 48:13.480]  Yes, and if anyone out there, if there's a single juror who has a daughter,
[48:13.480 --> 48:16.480]  they'll understand about the phone not being private.
[48:16.480 --> 48:19.480]  Exactly, exactly.
[48:19.480 --> 48:23.480]  And so it's not a, oh, it's not going to work.
[48:23.480 --> 48:28.480]  It'll work, and let me tell you something else, okay, about this stuff.
[48:28.480 --> 48:35.480]  Your logs, your logs are critical, your ledgers, your notes, okay?
[48:35.480 --> 48:40.480]  That's the whole purpose of getting the recordings and the information.
[48:40.480 --> 48:43.480]  You can write this stuff down verbatim.
[48:43.480 --> 48:48.480]  They're not going to allow you to bring the recording into court, okay?
[48:48.480 --> 48:50.480]  I can tell you that right now.
[48:50.480 --> 48:55.480]  The judge will stop it because there's issues about recordings, okay?
[48:55.480 --> 48:57.480]  And I guess unless you're in the FBI or something,
[48:57.480 --> 48:59.480]  they don't believe what they hear.
[48:59.480 --> 49:04.480]  So the purpose of getting this stuff recorded off of your answering machine
[49:04.480 --> 49:08.480]  and even when you're talking to these guys, have a recording machine there,
[49:08.480 --> 49:14.480]  is so that you can create a log, a journal, a ledger, whatever you want to call it.
[49:14.480 --> 49:19.480]  And that written document, because you wrote it and it's verbatim,
[49:19.480 --> 49:25.480]  the purpose of having the recording, you can put everything down 100% accurate,
[49:25.480 --> 49:32.480]  is that you can submit that as evidence to the court, and it's in writing.
[49:32.480 --> 49:37.480]  Okay, yeah, the reason I was asking about that is because some collection agency
[49:37.480 --> 49:41.480]  was calling my wife and they were like, well, if this is,
[49:41.480 --> 49:44.480]  like if they didn't even know if this was really her phone number,
[49:44.480 --> 49:50.480]  it's not this person hanging up, but if it is, there's an attempt to collect the dead
[49:50.480 --> 49:52.480]  and they went through the whole thing.
[49:52.480 --> 49:55.480]  And I know that they're not supposed to do it on a postcard
[49:55.480 --> 49:58.480]  because it's open to the public.
[49:58.480 --> 49:59.480]  Right.
[49:59.480 --> 50:01.480]  That's why I was asking about the recording.
[50:01.480 --> 50:04.480]  And you're absolutely right, and Debbie brought up a very good point.
[50:04.480 --> 50:07.480]  If you've got kids or somebody in the family that could hear that
[50:07.480 --> 50:10.480]  that shouldn't be hearing it, then it's an issue.
[50:10.480 --> 50:13.480]  If it's just you and your wife in the house and you know about this,
[50:13.480 --> 50:17.480]  you know, you could put it in the complaint, okay?
[50:17.480 --> 50:21.480]  And my response to these guys, well, they'll say to you, well, you can't,
[50:21.480 --> 50:22.480]  you know, nobody heard this.
[50:22.480 --> 50:26.480]  Well, why don't we let the judge and jury decide is my answer.
[50:26.480 --> 50:28.480]  Well, they're not supposed to be doing it anyway.
[50:28.480 --> 50:33.480]  It's not the point as to whether or not somebody that heard it
[50:33.480 --> 50:35.480]  wasn't supposed to be hearing it.
[50:35.480 --> 50:37.480]  That's neither here nor there.
[50:37.480 --> 50:42.480]  The point is they're not supposed to do it, period.
[50:42.480 --> 50:47.480]  I agree with you, and I've had them do it where they, you know,
[50:47.480 --> 50:51.480]  they identify themselves and they don't say anything else
[50:51.480 --> 50:56.480]  other than please return our phone call, okay?
[50:56.480 --> 50:59.480]  But they don't go into this an attempt to collect the debt
[50:59.480 --> 51:01.480]  or anything like that.
[51:01.480 --> 51:04.480]  If they get an answering machine, they'll say,
[51:04.480 --> 51:06.480]  this is ADC Collections Company.
[51:06.480 --> 51:07.480]  We're trying to contact you.
[51:07.480 --> 51:08.480]  Please call us back.
[51:08.480 --> 51:10.480]  Well, what does that mean?
[51:10.480 --> 51:13.480]  You know, I mean, somebody hears that, who knows what that means,
[51:13.480 --> 51:14.480]  all right?
[51:14.480 --> 51:17.480]  But when they come on there and they start running off the Miranda
[51:17.480 --> 51:19.480]  warning, the mini Miranda warning,
[51:19.480 --> 51:23.480]  and if they start talking about the debt on the recording,
[51:23.480 --> 51:24.480]  that's a real problem.
[51:24.480 --> 51:28.480]  And it becomes a public matter issue if you've got people in the
[51:28.480 --> 51:32.480]  house that you wouldn't want hearing that, roommates, et cetera,
[51:32.480 --> 51:33.480]  you would have a cause of action.
[51:33.480 --> 51:35.480]  There's no question about it.
[51:35.480 --> 51:38.480]  But, you know, the one thing you want to get them on,
[51:38.480 --> 51:41.480]  you got that disc, you saw the 18 questions.
[51:41.480 --> 51:42.480]  Did you like them?
[51:42.480 --> 51:43.480]  Yes, sir.
[51:43.480 --> 51:44.480]  Yeah.
[51:44.480 --> 51:45.480]  Okay.
[51:45.480 --> 51:46.480]  I haven't gotten the disc yet.
[51:46.480 --> 51:47.480]  I just got the e-mail on it.
[51:47.480 --> 51:49.480]  Well, that's what it is.
[51:49.480 --> 51:51.480]  That's how you get it.
[51:51.480 --> 51:56.480]  You'll get it in the PDF document, and everything is there.
[51:56.480 --> 51:59.480]  It just makes it quicker and saves postage,
[51:59.480 --> 52:01.480]  and everybody gets it pretty quick.
[52:01.480 --> 52:04.480]  But the point is, those 18 questions,
[52:04.480 --> 52:09.480]  and I think you see the logic behind it, okay?
[52:09.480 --> 52:11.480]  Just peel them off, you know?
[52:11.480 --> 52:14.480]  Then hang up.
[52:14.480 --> 52:17.480]  Yeah, because that's the first time that they did that,
[52:17.480 --> 52:20.480]  that message on the machine.
[52:20.480 --> 52:23.480]  I call right back just to see if they would call back and do the
[52:23.480 --> 52:25.480]  same thing, and they did it again.
[52:25.480 --> 52:26.480]  So I'm like, okay.
[52:26.480 --> 52:27.480]  Yeah.
[52:27.480 --> 52:28.480]  Yeah.
[52:28.480 --> 52:29.480]  Oh, good.
[52:29.480 --> 52:32.480]  Bait them into doing it more so you can rack up more $1,000 fines
[52:32.480 --> 52:33.480]  against them.
[52:33.480 --> 52:34.480]  Yeah.
[52:34.480 --> 52:37.480]  I think there was a Mark out of Wisconsin on the Friday night show.
[52:37.480 --> 52:38.480]  Yes.
[52:38.480 --> 52:42.480]  He says he's got them on like $5,000 already.
[52:42.480 --> 52:45.480]  Actually, Mark from Wisconsin is on the caller board right now.
[52:45.480 --> 52:46.480]  Oh, is he?
[52:46.480 --> 52:47.480]  Okay.
[52:47.480 --> 52:48.480]  Yes.
[52:48.480 --> 52:49.480]  Do you have anything else for us, Dominic?
[52:49.480 --> 52:50.480]  Well, that's it.
[52:50.480 --> 52:51.480]  That was my question.
[52:51.480 --> 52:52.480]  Well, you all have a great evening.
[52:52.480 --> 52:53.480]  Thank you very much.
[52:53.480 --> 52:54.480]  Okay.
[52:54.480 --> 52:55.480]  Thanks, Dominic.
[52:55.480 --> 52:57.480]  And I'll be e-mailing you access to the download page later tonight.
[52:57.480 --> 52:58.480]  Thank you, ma'am.
[52:58.480 --> 52:59.480]  All right.
[52:59.480 --> 53:00.480]  Thanks, Dominic.
[53:00.480 --> 53:03.480]  And we've got Mark from Wisconsin who we just spoke of.
[53:03.480 --> 53:04.480]  Mark, thanks for calling in.
[53:04.480 --> 53:08.480]  What's your question or comment for Mike?
[53:08.480 --> 53:09.480]  Michael.
[53:09.480 --> 53:10.480]  Yes, sir.
[53:10.480 --> 53:14.480]  When are you going to get your own show on Rule of Law Radio?
[53:14.480 --> 53:15.480]  No.
[53:15.480 --> 53:18.480]  Well, they've talked to me about doing a show.
[53:18.480 --> 53:20.480]  I think we're still working on it.
[53:20.480 --> 53:22.480]  That's Debbie's department.
[53:22.480 --> 53:26.480]  We've talked about it, and maybe we'll do a weekly two-hour show.
[53:26.480 --> 53:29.480]  We're kind of in the discussion phase of it right now.
[53:29.480 --> 53:32.480]  We're working out what would be the best time for Mike,
[53:32.480 --> 53:35.480]  for his schedule and for Rule of Law Radio's schedule.
[53:35.480 --> 53:37.480]  So, yes, that's in the works, believe me.
[53:37.480 --> 53:39.480]  We're working on that right now.
[53:39.480 --> 53:42.480]  Talk about a symbiotic relationship.
[53:42.480 --> 53:47.480]  I mean, the listeners profit, Michael profits, Rule of Law profits,
[53:47.480 --> 53:48.480]  everybody wins.
[53:48.480 --> 53:49.480]  It's a win-win-win.
[53:49.480 --> 53:52.480]  The only people that lose are the banksters.
[53:52.480 --> 53:53.480]  Yes.
[53:53.480 --> 53:54.480]  Well, that's...
[53:54.480 --> 53:55.480]  Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
[53:55.480 --> 53:57.480]  They get character building.
[53:57.480 --> 53:59.480]  Let me get my packages out here.
[53:59.480 --> 54:05.480]  Wait a minute.
[54:05.480 --> 54:07.480]  Hey, Michael.
[54:07.480 --> 54:08.480]  Yes, sir.
[54:08.480 --> 54:13.480]  We've got a statute in Wisconsin where it says if a bill is out of the SOL
[54:13.480 --> 54:17.480]  or a statute of limitations, you have neither right nor remedy.
[54:17.480 --> 54:20.480]  Would that be a violation under the FDCPA?
[54:20.480 --> 54:22.480]  Can you go into the state law for that?
[54:22.480 --> 54:26.480]  Yeah, actually, well, they're attempting to collect the debt
[54:26.480 --> 54:31.480]  that doesn't exist, and if you look under DCPA, they talk about that, okay,
[54:31.480 --> 54:33.480]  erroneous and inaccurate information.
[54:33.480 --> 54:36.480]  If they're in your credit report, you'll kill them.
[54:36.480 --> 54:39.480]  You'll kill them if it's outside the SOL.
[54:39.480 --> 54:44.480]  I had a case like that all back around 2007.
[54:44.480 --> 54:46.480]  This debt collector called me from California
[54:46.480 --> 54:48.480]  and claimed I owed this ton of money,
[54:48.480 --> 54:51.480]  and the state I was living in had a three-year statute.
[54:51.480 --> 54:53.480]  They claimed it was a revolving account,
[54:53.480 --> 54:57.480]  and there was a three-year statute on revolving accounts or credit cards.
[54:57.480 --> 55:00.480]  And as soon as I prepared to notice the pending lawsuit,
[55:00.480 --> 55:04.480]  their corporate attorney was on the phone to me so fast wanting to settle,
[55:04.480 --> 55:07.480]  it wasn't funny because he knew I had it by the short ears.
[55:07.480 --> 55:10.480]  Outside the statute of limit, oh, yeah.
[55:10.480 --> 55:11.480]  Oh, boy.
[55:11.480 --> 55:14.480]  Yeah, this is an erroneous debt anyway.
[55:14.480 --> 55:18.480]  My wife got charged for death space at a real estate office,
[55:18.480 --> 55:21.480]  and she wasn't even there during that time.
[55:21.480 --> 55:25.480]  So the hunter is becoming the hunted, and he's a local attorney, too,
[55:25.480 --> 55:27.480]  and I actually started to feel sorry for him.
[55:27.480 --> 55:29.480]  I go, wait a minute, Mark.
[55:29.480 --> 55:31.480]  This guy's an attorney.
[55:31.480 --> 55:34.480]  Yeah.
[55:34.480 --> 55:37.480]  They're supposed to know the law, aren't they?
[55:37.480 --> 55:38.480]  Yep.
[55:38.480 --> 55:39.480]  Yeah.
[55:39.480 --> 55:41.480]  It makes you wonder, doesn't it?
[55:41.480 --> 55:42.480]  Yeah.
[55:42.480 --> 55:46.480]  Well, see, they got a lot of people in the lower courts that way, man.
[55:46.480 --> 55:49.480]  I'm telling you, I've heard nightmare stories.
[55:49.480 --> 55:52.480]  People come in, and, you know, these debt collectors,
[55:52.480 --> 55:54.480]  the debt is outside the statute of limitation.
[55:54.480 --> 55:56.480]  People don't know anything about this.
[55:56.480 --> 56:00.480]  They drag him into court, and unless you bring it up to the judge,
[56:00.480 --> 56:02.480]  the judge is impartial.
[56:02.480 --> 56:03.480]  He's not going to say it.
[56:03.480 --> 56:05.480]  He or she isn't going to say anything.
[56:05.480 --> 56:07.480]  And here's the lawyer saying with the affidavit of debt,
[56:07.480 --> 56:10.480]  you owe this money, and the people are standing,
[56:10.480 --> 56:13.480]  and once you agree to it, you're dead.
[56:13.480 --> 56:14.480]  You're done.
[56:14.480 --> 56:18.480]  But if you can bring up the point of law that it's outside the statute of
[56:18.480 --> 56:22.480]  limitations, Your Honor, they're dead.
[56:22.480 --> 56:25.480]  If the court systems were functioning the way they were supposed to be,
[56:25.480 --> 56:28.480]  the judge would realize that he has no subject matter jurisdiction
[56:28.480 --> 56:31.480]  as soon as he looks at the date on that bill.
[56:31.480 --> 56:32.480]  Exactly.
[56:32.480 --> 56:33.480]  Exactly.
[56:33.480 --> 56:36.480]  I guess it is up to us to be vigilant.
[56:36.480 --> 56:39.480]  Well, you know, it's the old story.
[56:39.480 --> 56:40.480]  It's the old buddy system.
[56:40.480 --> 56:43.480]  You know what I'm talking about.
[56:43.480 --> 56:44.480]  Yeah, the good boys.
[56:44.480 --> 56:45.480]  In that local court.
[56:45.480 --> 56:50.480]  Yeah, what we need to do is teach the judges how to be diligent.
[56:50.480 --> 56:51.480]  Right.
[56:51.480 --> 56:53.480]  In this credit card case where they didn't sign,
[56:53.480 --> 56:57.480]  they didn't verify the document, we sued the judge.
[56:57.480 --> 56:58.480]  Yep.
[56:58.480 --> 57:01.480]  I bet that's not going to happen again.
[57:01.480 --> 57:04.480]  We just kind of got to get their attention sometime.
[57:04.480 --> 57:06.480]  Teaching a lesson, yeah.
[57:06.480 --> 57:11.480]  If the judge takes a case that's outside statute of limitations,
[57:11.480 --> 57:18.480]  you file a cross-complaint against the judge, good chance your case will go away really fast.
[57:18.480 --> 57:19.480]  Yep.
[57:19.480 --> 57:20.480]  Well, listen.
[57:20.480 --> 57:22.480]  Hey, Ricky, one last question.
[57:22.480 --> 57:28.480]  When are you guys going to do a show on void judgment?
[57:28.480 --> 57:30.480]  Oh, we need to get Mike Merritt.
[57:30.480 --> 57:33.480]  I mean, Jeff said we're going for that.
[57:33.480 --> 57:36.480]  Right.
[57:36.480 --> 57:43.480]  He's got a website called void judgment.
[57:43.480 --> 57:44.480]  All right, Mark.
[57:44.480 --> 57:46.480]  All right, Mark, thanks.
[57:46.480 --> 57:47.480]  Thank you.
[57:47.480 --> 57:48.480]  Thank you.
[57:48.480 --> 57:49.480]  Take care, man.
[57:49.480 --> 57:50.480]  You too.
[57:50.480 --> 57:51.480]  All right.
[57:51.480 --> 57:52.480]  Yep.
[57:52.480 --> 57:53.480]  That was Mark from Wisconsin.
[57:53.480 --> 57:57.480]  We've got Mike from Florida waiting in the wings,
[57:57.480 --> 58:01.480]  but we are coming up on our top of our break.
[58:01.480 --> 58:05.480]  Mike, do you want to – Mike Merritt, do you want to stay with us for a little while more?
[58:05.480 --> 58:06.480]  Sure.
[58:06.480 --> 58:07.480]  A few more minutes, no problem.
[58:07.480 --> 58:08.480]  Okay, awesome.
[58:08.480 --> 58:10.480]  Mike's going to stay with us on the other side.
[58:10.480 --> 58:11.480]  Wonderful.
[58:11.480 --> 58:14.480]  Callers, if you have a question for Mike Merritt, call in now.
[58:14.480 --> 58:17.480]  He said he'd stay with us a few more minutes, maybe one more segment.
[58:17.480 --> 58:23.480]  I know this was an impromptu guest ship interview here,
[58:23.480 --> 58:26.480]  so he probably has other things he needs to do this evening.
[58:26.480 --> 58:31.480]  So, callers, if you want to talk to Mike Merritt, 512-646-1984.
[58:31.480 --> 58:59.480]  We'll be right back.
[58:59.480 --> 59:04.480]  This is Deborah Stevens from Rule of Law Radio with an update on the Austin micro-FM.
[59:04.480 --> 59:08.480]  The outpouring of support for 90.1 has been tremendous.
[59:08.480 --> 59:12.480]  In only two days, Brave New Books has collected over 100 letters
[59:12.480 --> 59:15.480]  and enough donations to cover court costs so far.
[59:15.480 --> 59:19.480]  A lawsuit and petition for restraining order has been filed to stop the FCC
[59:19.480 --> 59:22.480]  from taking any further action until this is sorted out in court.
[59:22.480 --> 59:25.480]  90.1 will stay on the air for the long haul.
[59:25.480 --> 59:29.480]  Even if the court orders the operators to shut down,
[59:29.480 --> 59:32.480]  we are prepared to appeal all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.
[59:32.480 --> 59:37.480]  Now is the time to kick our Serving the Public Interest letter campaign
[59:37.480 --> 59:42.480]  into high gear to go viral so we can build as strong a case as possible.
[59:42.480 --> 59:45.480]  We need your donations to cover future court costs,
[59:45.480 --> 59:48.480]  travel expenses and possible fines as well.
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[59:52.480 --> 59:56.480]  and start my Brave New Book at 1904 Guadalupe, Suite B.
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[01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:04.480]  This news brief was brought to you by the International News Net.
[01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:09.480]  The LA Times reported Thursday Blue Shield of California has notified policyholders
[01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:13.480]  their coverage would be dropped if they missed a single payment.
[01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:17.480]  Blue Shield said in a letter to customers they can reapply for insurance
[01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:21.480]  but with potentially higher premiums and stricter conditions.
[01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:26.480]  Last year, Blue Shield and Anthem Blue Cross were fined $13 million
[01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:32.480]  after canceling the policies of 2,000 Californians after they became ill.
[01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:38.480]  German Defense Minister Karl Theodor Zugutenberg is under mounting pressure
[01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:44.480]  to resign over accusations he lied over a German ordered airstrike in Afghanistan
[01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:49.480]  that killed 142 civilians last September.
[01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:53.480]  Iran Wednesday test-fired an upgraded version of a solid-state
[01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:58.480]  medium-range ballistic missile. The U.S. called it a provocative act.
[01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:03.480]  Iran Defense Minister General Ahmad Vahidi said the missile test
[01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:07.480]  would act as a strong deterrent against possible foreign attack.
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[01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:16.480]  Pakistan's top court struck down a controversial amnesty deal Tuesday
[01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:21.480]  that has protected President Zardari and his allies from corruption charges.
[01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:25.480]  The Supreme Court's ruling prompted calls for Zardari to step down
[01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:31.480]  and face criminal charges that were shelved two years ago as part of the amnesty.
[01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:35.480]  Legal experts said the judgment could also open the way for a challenge
[01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:38.480]  to the legitimacy of Zardari's election.
[01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:42.480]  The Supreme Court declared as unconstitutional the amnesty decree
[01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:46.480]  that pardoned thousands of politicians and bureaucrats who face corruption
[01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:50.480]  and criminal cases. The court ordered the restoration of all cases
[01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:54.480]  against Zardari, including a money laundering case in a Swiss court.
[01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:58.480]  Although Zardari retains immunity from prosecution while in office,
[01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:02.480]  many of his associates could now face immediate arrest.
[01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:07.480]  The alleged scale of Zardari's activities shocked even seasoned observers.
[01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:15.480]  He has been accused of accumulating assets worth $1.5 billion through illegal means.
[01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:21.480]  Police in Copenhagen arrested 260 demonstrators outside the climate summit Wednesday
[01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:26.480]  as leaders of developing nations let rip at wealthy counterparts,
[01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:31.480]  exposing the huge obstacles facing a deal to tame global warming.
[01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:37.480]  On Friday, 120 world leaders hoped to conclude a post-2012 strategy
[01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:42.480]  by setting down the outlines of an accord on curbing carbon emissions
[01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:46.480]  and craft a mechanism to provide billions of dollars for poorer countries
[01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:51.480]  affected by climate change. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez
[01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:54.480]  railed against the imperial dictatorship of the West
[01:02:54.480 --> 01:03:01.480]  and said poorer nations would not take their orders from the rich.
[01:03:54.480 --> 01:04:17.480]  OK, we are back, hour two, chanting down Babylon, chanting down the banksters.
[01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:21.480]  We're doing something about it. All right, the call bridge is going nuts over here.
[01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:29.480]  And, folks, we do ask you to stay on topic or else Randy will hit you with his Mike taser.
[01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:32.480]  OK, we got Mike from Florida who is up next.
[01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:36.480]  Mike, thanks for calling in. What is your question or comment for our guest?
[01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:39.480]  Well, when I called in, I wanted to talk some due process with Randy.
[01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:41.480]  I can wait and let somebody else go ahead.
[01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:45.480]  Yeah, why don't you – why don't you – yeah, Mike, why don't you hang on
[01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:48.480]  and then we'll get back to you, OK?
[01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:50.480]  I block your taser.
[01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:53.480]  OK, all right, here we go. We're going to go to Arnold in Texas.
[01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:55.480]  OK, Arnold, thanks for calling in.
[01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:58.480]  What is your question or comment for our guest?
[01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:01.480]  We want to talk about due process, though.
[01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:04.480]  Y'all want to talk about due process, too?
[01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:07.480]  OK, I had just said we were taking calls from Mike.
[01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:10.480]  OK, Melody in Florida.
[01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:14.480]  OK, Melody, thanks. What is your question or comment for our guest?
[01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:19.480]  Hello, very quick. I'm very new to this station, very new to trying to learn law.
[01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:24.480]  And I just wanted him to repeat quickly.
[01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:29.480]  He spoke about a gentleman in Las Vegas with foreclosures that he went to the judge prior,
[01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:32.480]  I believe, and ratified something.
[01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:41.480]  And then you also spoke about a place to search for suits against the company.
[01:05:41.480 --> 01:05:46.480]  And I tried bringing that up, but I was wondering, is it a website and what's that address?
[01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:50.480]  Yes, very good. And thanks for calling in.
[01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:55.480]  Gentlemen, I work with foreclosures and what have you.
[01:05:55.480 --> 01:05:59.480]  I don't get into foreclosures per se, but I had something happen with my mortgage
[01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:03.480]  where fraudulent signatures were put on the HUD documents.
[01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:05.480]  So I'm following that through bottom line.
[01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:09.480]  I anticipate to get my house for nothing because of the fraud that was committed
[01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:13.480]  on a federal government document, false signatures applied.
[01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:15.480]  Wow, oh my goodness.
[01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:19.480]  And anyhow, that's another story for another night.
[01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:21.480]  But I hooked up with my buddy.
[01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:23.480]  He contacted me.
[01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.480]  He said, I'll teach you everything about foreclosure if you teach me everything
[01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:30.480]  about fair credit debt collection so we become quick friends.
[01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:36.480]  But what had happened was he has a gentleman he works with who I've met also,
[01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:38.480]  and they work together.
[01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:44.480]  And this gentleman, it was either 62 or 67 foreclosures in federal court.
[01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:48.480]  They took them in under TILA and RESPA violations.
[01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:50.480]  They won the cases.
[01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:54.480]  They got the people's houses returned to them for nothing.
[01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:58.480]  However, when you do these things in federal court,
[01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:02.480]  you generally have what they call a settlement agreement.
[01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:07.480]  And sometimes in that settlement agreement, the party you're going after,
[01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:12.480]  i.e. the bank, the creditor, the lender, whatever you want to call them,
[01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:16.480]  will say, yes, we'll do a settlement agreement which basically says,
[01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:18.480]  hey, we're never going to come after you again for this.
[01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:21.480]  We're not going to report it in your credit report.
[01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:25.480]  We're not going to sell it to a debt collector or a debt collector attorney.
[01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:29.480]  In other words, this thing is retired, okay?
[01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:32.480]  And oh, by the way, you must not talk about this.
[01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:37.480]  You must not go on TV or the Internet or the newspapers.
[01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:40.480]  That's called a confidentiality agreement.
[01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:44.480]  Well, what they were doing is they were taking that settlement agreement
[01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:50.480]  after they won the case and having the judge ratify it or sign it.
[01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:56.480]  And when they do that, it would automatically become part of the case paperwork
[01:07:56.480 --> 01:08:05.480]  which would appear on PACER, capital P, capital A, capital C, capital E, capital R.
[01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:08.480]  This is the government website.
[01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:12.480]  It is a website where you can see all these federal cases.
[01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:14.480]  And what they've done is the case is there.
[01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:16.480]  You can see the case number and everything.
[01:08:16.480 --> 01:08:20.480]  But they've blacked out how they got there because they don't, see,
[01:08:20.480 --> 01:08:26.480]  they do this stuff because they don't want the public to know how fallible they are.
[01:08:26.480 --> 01:08:30.480]  Mike, is there a way to work out these settlement agreements
[01:08:30.480 --> 01:08:36.480]  without having the judge ratify it so the case won't be blacked out on PACER?
[01:08:36.480 --> 01:08:38.480]  Yes, the judge doesn't have to ratify it.
[01:08:38.480 --> 01:08:43.480]  All my cases all have written settlement agreements with them, okay,
[01:08:43.480 --> 01:08:44.480]  and none of them are blacked out.
[01:08:44.480 --> 01:08:49.480]  But I have the settlement agreement as a separate document in my possession, okay,
[01:08:49.480 --> 01:08:56.480]  and that's the proverbial contract, okay, that says they're never going to do this again, all right.
[01:08:56.480 --> 01:09:00.480]  But what they're doing is they're going to the judge and making him ratify it
[01:09:00.480 --> 01:09:04.480]  so they can cover up everything so you can't see what the people got, see.
[01:09:04.480 --> 01:09:07.480]  And there's a way for people to protest that, right?
[01:09:07.480 --> 01:09:08.480]  I'm sure there is.
[01:09:08.480 --> 01:09:09.480]  I'm sure there is.
[01:09:09.480 --> 01:09:14.480]  But you know, Deb, when you're sitting and you're sitting on a couple hundred thousand dollars,
[01:09:14.480 --> 01:09:18.480]  getting your house for nothing, you're in a state of numbness.
[01:09:18.480 --> 01:09:19.480]  You're in a state of shock.
[01:09:19.480 --> 01:09:21.480]  I can't believe this is all going to happen.
[01:09:21.480 --> 01:09:22.480]  I'm going to get my house back.
[01:09:22.480 --> 01:09:24.480]  I'm not going to have to make payment.
[01:09:24.480 --> 01:09:27.480]  You know, you're kind of vulnerable at that time.
[01:09:27.480 --> 01:09:31.480]  You don't think about down the road, okay?
[01:09:31.480 --> 01:09:32.480]  Right.
[01:09:32.480 --> 01:09:34.480]  You've got to put yourself in that position.
[01:09:34.480 --> 01:09:37.480]  Somebody just handed you two or three hundred thousand dollars in house,
[01:09:37.480 --> 01:09:41.480]  and it's like, oh, my God, you know, I'm going to get my house for nothing.
[01:09:41.480 --> 01:09:43.480]  It's, you know, yeah, I'll sign anything.
[01:09:43.480 --> 01:09:44.480]  You're going to give me a house.
[01:09:44.480 --> 01:09:45.480]  You don't have to ever bother me.
[01:09:45.480 --> 01:09:47.480]  You know, I'll do whatever it takes.
[01:09:47.480 --> 01:09:52.480]  So you've got to kind of sympathize with the folks who are doing this.
[01:09:52.480 --> 01:09:56.480]  They won, but the banksters, as you call them,
[01:09:56.480 --> 01:10:02.480]  don't want this information to get out that they can be beat.
[01:10:02.480 --> 01:10:03.480]  Okay.
[01:10:03.480 --> 01:10:04.480]  Thank you.
[01:10:04.480 --> 01:10:06.480]  And that's Pacer.gov?
[01:10:06.480 --> 01:10:07.480]  Pacer.gov.
[01:10:07.480 --> 01:10:13.480]  If you go to Google and just put in capital P, capital A, capital C, capital E,
[01:10:13.480 --> 01:10:16.480]  capital R, it'll come right up.
[01:10:16.480 --> 01:10:17.480]  It'll come right up.
[01:10:17.480 --> 01:10:19.480]  You'll see it immediately.
[01:10:19.480 --> 01:10:20.480]  All right.
[01:10:20.480 --> 01:10:21.480]  Thank you very much.
[01:10:21.480 --> 01:10:22.480]  Sure thing.
[01:10:22.480 --> 01:10:25.480]  Thanks for calling in.
[01:10:25.480 --> 01:10:26.480]  Okay.
[01:10:26.480 --> 01:10:27.480]  We don't have any other callers on the call board.
[01:10:27.480 --> 01:10:31.480]  There was a Kim from California, but that person has dropped off the line.
[01:10:31.480 --> 01:10:34.480]  Mike, do you have anything else you want to lay out there?
[01:10:34.480 --> 01:10:40.480]  No, I'm going to butt out because it's Randy's show.
[01:10:40.480 --> 01:10:44.480]  Well, you're welcome to stay on the line here in case we get more callers.
[01:10:44.480 --> 01:10:46.480]  We can go to Mike from Florida and Arnold from Texas.
[01:10:46.480 --> 01:10:49.480]  You may be able to answer some of their questions as well.
[01:10:49.480 --> 01:10:50.480]  Okay.
[01:10:50.480 --> 01:10:52.480]  I'll stay on in the background for a while.
[01:10:52.480 --> 01:10:53.480]  Okay.
[01:10:52.480 --> 01:10:53.480]  All right.
[01:10:53.480 --> 01:11:00.480]  Callers, if you have any questions for Mike Amiris, please call in, 512-646-1984.
[01:11:00.480 --> 01:11:03.480]  And a Kim from California, please call back in.
[01:11:03.480 --> 01:11:04.480]  All right.
[01:11:04.480 --> 01:11:06.480]  We're going to go to Mike from Florida right now.
[01:11:06.480 --> 01:11:07.480]  Okay, Mike, go ahead.
[01:11:07.480 --> 01:11:09.480]  What is your question?
[01:11:09.480 --> 01:11:11.480]  Yeah, this is for Randy.
[01:11:11.480 --> 01:11:13.480]  I was talking to a young man last night.
[01:11:13.480 --> 01:11:15.480]  He's in the Austin area apparently.
[01:11:15.480 --> 01:11:19.480]  And the police came to his house, knocked on his door.
[01:11:19.480 --> 01:11:21.480]  He thought it was a solicitor.
[01:11:21.480 --> 01:11:23.480]  They persisted knocking.
[01:11:23.480 --> 01:11:25.480]  So he went to see what it was about time he got the door.
[01:11:25.480 --> 01:11:30.480]  They opened the door and walked in and essentially took him out of the house
[01:11:30.480 --> 01:11:35.480]  and asked him to identify himself and didn't tell him why they were coming in
[01:11:35.480 --> 01:11:37.480]  and no search warrant apparently.
[01:11:37.480 --> 01:11:39.480]  I sent you an email with an attachment.
[01:11:39.480 --> 01:11:42.480]  It was a short synopsis of what the young man wrote.
[01:11:42.480 --> 01:11:45.480]  And the more I listened to him and the more and what I read,
[01:11:45.480 --> 01:11:49.480]  I figured this is right up your alley and you might be able to help him out.
[01:11:49.480 --> 01:11:54.480]  This is one reason you always want to keep your front door locked, people.
[01:11:54.480 --> 01:11:57.480]  My front door is always locked.
[01:11:57.480 --> 01:12:00.480]  Nobody's ever just going to walk in my house like that.
[01:12:00.480 --> 01:12:06.480]  Okay, the problem the police have, no warrant, loaded pistol.
[01:12:06.480 --> 01:12:11.480]  You come into my house with a loaded pistol and no warrant,
[01:12:11.480 --> 01:12:14.480]  I consider that the home invasion.
[01:12:14.480 --> 01:12:18.480]  And I would charge home invasion.
[01:12:18.480 --> 01:12:24.480]  Now, if they have probable cause to enter, for instance,
[01:12:24.480 --> 01:12:31.480]  they're chasing a felon and somebody said he went right through that door,
[01:12:31.480 --> 01:12:33.480]  they got probable cause to enter.
[01:12:33.480 --> 01:12:36.480]  But it's going to take something pretty serious.
[01:12:36.480 --> 01:12:40.480]  They will have to be in pursuit of an escaping felon.
[01:12:40.480 --> 01:12:44.480]  I'm trying to think of what other reason they could pass the door
[01:12:44.480 --> 01:12:49.480]  because I'm not getting one or a warrant in their hand.
[01:12:49.480 --> 01:12:50.480]  Okay.
[01:12:50.480 --> 01:12:51.480]  Can you hear me?
[01:12:51.480 --> 01:12:53.480]  Yes.
[01:12:53.480 --> 01:12:57.480]  Okay, here's what they told him at the jail when they hauled him out the jail,
[01:12:57.480 --> 01:13:02.480]  that they had gotten a hang up 911 call from his location.
[01:13:02.480 --> 01:13:05.480]  And I said, well, that should be fairly easy to check.
[01:13:05.480 --> 01:13:08.480]  They record all that stuff, correct?
[01:13:08.480 --> 01:13:12.480]  Yes, but that don't cut it.
[01:13:12.480 --> 01:13:13.480]  Well, I know that.
[01:13:13.480 --> 01:13:17.480]  Yeah, so the hang up 911 call is not.
[01:13:17.480 --> 01:13:22.480]  Well, going out there and knocking on the door to try to see if everything is okay,
[01:13:22.480 --> 01:13:23.480]  that's not illegal.
[01:13:23.480 --> 01:13:28.480]  But just breaking in the house, I mean, that's breaking and entering right there.
[01:13:28.480 --> 01:13:31.480]  You don't just walk into somebody's house whether the door is locked or not.
[01:13:31.480 --> 01:13:41.480]  Well, okay, in their defense, if they truly believe they got a 911 call from this residence,
[01:13:41.480 --> 01:13:43.480]  say they get a call.
[01:13:43.480 --> 01:13:45.480]  They should have called back.
[01:13:45.480 --> 01:13:51.480]  Yeah, but generally 911, they take real serious,
[01:13:51.480 --> 01:13:56.480]  and they're afraid someone tried to call and was interrupted.
[01:13:56.480 --> 01:14:01.480]  If they call back and the bad guy interrupted them, he's going to answer.
[01:14:01.480 --> 01:14:03.480]  It won't help.
[01:14:03.480 --> 01:14:04.480]  So they come to check out.
[01:14:04.480 --> 01:14:06.480]  They get no answer.
[01:14:06.480 --> 01:14:07.480]  They come in.
[01:14:07.480 --> 01:14:12.480]  I can see where, but hauling him off to jail, that's not a good thing.
[01:14:12.480 --> 01:14:14.480]  He's in jail for 30 hours.
[01:14:14.480 --> 01:14:17.480]  What did they arrest him for?
[01:14:17.480 --> 01:14:19.480]  That's what I hadn't figured out.
[01:14:19.480 --> 01:14:22.480]  Yeah, well, bogus 911 call.
[01:14:22.480 --> 01:14:26.480]  Now we want to see, how long ago was this?
[01:14:26.480 --> 01:14:29.480]  He got the 14th, what's the day?
[01:14:29.480 --> 01:14:33.480]  Okay, he needs to get in a motion to preserve evidence.
[01:14:33.480 --> 01:14:37.480]  Matter of fact, Eddie Craig was asking me to write him one of those.
[01:14:37.480 --> 01:14:40.480]  I will put one together.
[01:14:40.480 --> 01:14:45.480]  Have this guy, give him my email, have him contact me.
[01:14:45.480 --> 01:14:48.480]  I can help him, but I can't help him through you.
[01:14:48.480 --> 01:14:49.480]  Right, I understand that.
[01:14:49.480 --> 01:14:53.480]  Yeah, he'll have to come to me.
[01:14:53.480 --> 01:14:55.480]  A lot of times people won't let you help them.
[01:14:55.480 --> 01:15:02.480]  They're so afraid of the system that they just won't let anybody help them.
[01:15:02.480 --> 01:15:04.480]  Randy, he's the next caller.
[01:15:04.480 --> 01:15:05.480]  Oh, okay.
[01:15:05.480 --> 01:15:06.480]  Wonderful.
[01:15:06.480 --> 01:15:07.480]  Okay, well, we'll bring him up then.
[01:15:07.480 --> 01:15:08.480]  Thanks, Mike.
[01:15:08.480 --> 01:15:09.480]  Okay.
[01:15:09.480 --> 01:15:12.480]  Okay, we're going to go now to Arnold in Texas.
[01:15:12.480 --> 01:15:16.480]  Okay, Arnold, are you the individual that we're speaking of?
[01:15:16.480 --> 01:15:17.480]  Yes.
[01:15:17.480 --> 01:15:19.480]  Wonderful, okay.
[01:15:19.480 --> 01:15:20.480]  Okay, this is what happened.
[01:15:20.480 --> 01:15:25.480]  They took, they actually, he came in and tackled me and handcuffed me inside my house,
[01:15:25.480 --> 01:15:27.480]  and then they took me out.
[01:15:27.480 --> 01:15:29.480]  Nine other agents came in with their guns.
[01:15:29.480 --> 01:15:32.480]  Was your front door unlocked?
[01:15:32.480 --> 01:15:34.480]  Yes.
[01:15:34.480 --> 01:15:37.480]  It doesn't matter, it was closed.
[01:15:37.480 --> 01:15:40.480]  It was closed, yeah, the door was closed.
[01:15:40.480 --> 01:15:43.480]  You still always want to keep your front door locked, people.
[01:15:43.480 --> 01:15:44.480]  Yeah, where was my daughter?
[01:15:44.480 --> 01:15:48.480]  She left early, and I didn't know she left, and she left it open.
[01:15:48.480 --> 01:15:50.480]  But anyhow, so I was the only one in the house.
[01:15:50.480 --> 01:15:54.480]  What did they arrest you for?
[01:15:54.480 --> 01:16:02.480]  When I was at the jail, it took about maybe 10 hours before a nice clerk told me why I was arrested for.
[01:16:02.480 --> 01:16:08.480]  And they said no ID and interference with public duty.
[01:16:08.480 --> 01:16:12.480]  You were interfering with public duty by sitting in your house.
[01:16:12.480 --> 01:16:14.480]  Now, wait a minute.
[01:16:14.480 --> 01:16:18.480]  He busted up their knuckles with his face.
[01:16:18.480 --> 01:16:24.480]  No, I didn't get hit in the face, but he did tackle me pretty hard.
[01:16:24.480 --> 01:16:28.480]  And I did suffer a small bruise on my hip.
[01:16:28.480 --> 01:16:30.480]  Okay, this is good.
[01:16:30.480 --> 01:16:33.480]  I thought it was a pimple, but when I looked at it, that ain't no pimple.
[01:16:33.480 --> 01:16:37.480]  Okay, wait, Arnold, hold on the line because we're going to break, okay?
[01:16:37.480 --> 01:16:38.480]  Okay.
[01:16:38.480 --> 01:16:40.480]  Okay, we'll finish your story on the other side.
[01:16:40.480 --> 01:16:46.480]  And callers, if you'd like to call in, talk to Mike Meares or us, 512-646-1984.
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[01:18:00.480 --> 01:18:10.480]  Music
[01:18:30.480 --> 01:18:35.480]  You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hand
[01:18:35.480 --> 01:18:40.480]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:18:40.480 --> 01:19:00.480]  Ain't gonna fool me
[01:19:00.480 --> 01:19:18.480]  Ain't gonna drive me with that same old sucker punch
[01:19:18.480 --> 01:19:22.480]  Okay, not gonna get us with that same old sucker punch again
[01:19:22.480 --> 01:19:32.480]  Okay, we are now speaking with Arnold from Texas who was tackled in his own home accused of a false 911 call
[01:19:32.480 --> 01:19:34.480]  Now, here's what I don't understand Arnold
[01:19:34.480 --> 01:19:38.480]  If they came to your house thinking there was a 911 call
[01:19:38.480 --> 01:19:41.480]  Why did they just walk in and take you down?
[01:19:41.480 --> 01:19:45.480]  I mean, you could have been the one under attack calling 911
[01:19:45.480 --> 01:19:47.480]  How did they know to take you down?
[01:19:47.480 --> 01:19:48.480]  Why did they...
[01:19:48.480 --> 01:19:50.480]  You know, do you see what I'm saying?
[01:19:50.480 --> 01:19:52.480]  Something else had to have been going on here
[01:19:52.480 --> 01:19:56.480]  Okay, as I was approaching, because I usually ignore the solicitor
[01:19:56.480 --> 01:19:59.480]  So he just kept banging on the door
[01:19:59.480 --> 01:20:05.480]  So as I walked over there, as I approached the door, the foyer
[01:20:05.480 --> 01:20:08.480]  He opened the door and walked in
[01:20:08.480 --> 01:20:10.480]  I said, hey, wait a minute
[01:20:10.480 --> 01:20:13.480]  I didn't give you consent to come in the house
[01:20:13.480 --> 01:20:16.480]  Nor do you have a warrant to get out of my house
[01:20:16.480 --> 01:20:22.480]  So he reversed but still had one foot in and said, come over here
[01:20:22.480 --> 01:20:27.480]  And I said, no, I'm not going to let this private property get out of my house
[01:20:27.480 --> 01:20:29.480]  And then that's when he charged me
[01:20:29.480 --> 01:20:32.480]  Good for you
[01:20:32.480 --> 01:20:35.480]  He has himself a problem
[01:20:35.480 --> 01:20:36.480]  Were you...
[01:20:36.480 --> 01:20:38.480]  Do you have anything in your hands?
[01:20:38.480 --> 01:20:40.480]  No
[01:20:40.480 --> 01:20:43.480]  Are you making any threatening gestures?
[01:20:43.480 --> 01:20:44.480]  No
[01:20:44.480 --> 01:20:45.480]  He's got a problem
[01:20:45.480 --> 01:20:47.480]  I'm a peaceful man, I really...
[01:20:47.480 --> 01:20:54.480]  Okay, now, they charged you with failure to ID and interfering with public...
[01:20:54.480 --> 01:20:55.480]  Duty
[01:20:55.480 --> 01:20:57.480]  Oh, wonderful
[01:20:57.480 --> 01:21:06.480]  Okay, what they will do, they always charge the person they arrest
[01:21:06.480 --> 01:21:14.480]  No matter why they arrest him, they file charges against him to keep themselves from getting sued
[01:21:14.480 --> 01:21:17.480]  That's why they do it, that's what they did to me
[01:21:17.480 --> 01:21:19.480]  Do you have an attorney?
[01:21:19.480 --> 01:21:20.480]  No
[01:21:20.480 --> 01:21:21.480]  Good
[01:21:21.480 --> 01:21:24.480]  Have you been called in for a pretrial hearing?
[01:21:24.480 --> 01:21:25.480]  No
[01:21:25.480 --> 01:21:27.480]  Good
[01:21:27.480 --> 01:21:30.480]  Okay, good, good
[01:21:30.480 --> 01:21:37.480]  Did you see a magistrate before you left?
[01:21:37.480 --> 01:21:41.480]  The jail
[01:21:41.480 --> 01:21:43.480]  Are you there?
[01:21:43.480 --> 01:21:46.480]  Arnold?
[01:21:46.480 --> 01:21:49.480]  Arnold?
[01:21:49.480 --> 01:21:51.480]  It looks like we lost Arnold
[01:21:51.480 --> 01:21:56.480]  Okay, I'll kind of walk through the routine
[01:21:56.480 --> 01:22:03.480]  These guys committed more due process violations than they can count
[01:22:03.480 --> 01:22:06.480]  Because they're going to run out of fingers
[01:22:06.480 --> 01:22:10.480]  Well, I guess they could take their shoes off
[01:22:10.480 --> 01:22:14.480]  Criminal trespass, he ordered him to leave, the guy didn't
[01:22:14.480 --> 01:22:19.480]  Criminal trespass whilst displaying a deadly weapon
[01:22:19.480 --> 01:22:22.480]  Assault, simple assault by touching
[01:22:22.480 --> 01:22:26.480]  Well, this wasn't a simple assault, they knocked him down and injured him
[01:22:26.480 --> 01:22:29.480]  That would be aggravated assault
[01:22:29.480 --> 01:22:32.480]  Except that
[01:22:32.480 --> 01:22:42.480]  The perpetrator was a public official acting under color of official authority, color meaning pretense
[01:22:42.480 --> 01:22:47.480]  Whilst displaying a deadly weapon and caused bodily injury
[01:22:47.480 --> 01:22:53.480]  Wasn't grievous, all you need to do for this one is to commit simple assault
[01:22:53.480 --> 01:23:01.480]  Which is either offensive touching, touching in a way that a reasonable person would find offensive
[01:23:01.480 --> 01:23:05.480]  Or threatening imminent bodily harm
[01:23:05.480 --> 01:23:08.480]  Well, they did both
[01:23:08.480 --> 01:23:14.480]  Whilst displaying a deadly weapon, that's a first degree felony in Texas
[01:23:14.480 --> 01:23:18.480]  2204B2A
[01:23:18.480 --> 01:23:21.480]  And we do have Arnold back, I'm going to bring him back alive, go ahead Randy
[01:23:21.480 --> 01:23:24.480]  Okay, Arnold
[01:23:24.480 --> 01:23:26.480]  Few questions
[01:23:26.480 --> 01:23:29.480]  When you were taken to jail
[01:23:29.480 --> 01:23:34.480]  When you were taken before a magistrate before you were released
[01:23:34.480 --> 01:23:36.480]  Before I was released, yes
[01:23:36.480 --> 01:23:39.480]  Arnold, are you on a speaker phone or something?
[01:23:39.480 --> 01:23:43.480]  Yeah, that's the only phone, I was on the internet before and that was so clear
[01:23:43.480 --> 01:23:50.480]  Do you have a handset that you can talk into, like a regular handset that you can put up to your face, to your head?
[01:23:50.480 --> 01:23:52.480]  Yeah
[01:23:52.480 --> 01:23:56.480]  Because we can't understand you very well, we ask people not to use it
[01:23:56.480 --> 01:24:00.480]  Go to the other room
[01:24:00.480 --> 01:24:02.480]  Okay
[01:24:02.480 --> 01:24:04.480]  Police do this all the time
[01:24:04.480 --> 01:24:07.480]  Generally by filing charges against people
[01:24:07.480 --> 01:24:11.480]  They scare the crap out of them and get them to take a deal no matter what
[01:24:11.480 --> 01:24:17.480]  In Texas, the average conviction rate is 99.6
[01:24:17.480 --> 01:24:19.480]  Rounds up to 100
[01:24:19.480 --> 01:24:23.480]  Everybody takes the deal because they scare everybody
[01:24:23.480 --> 01:24:26.480]  So I'm working on a procedure to handle that
[01:24:26.480 --> 01:24:29.480]  We do a little scaring of our own
[01:24:29.480 --> 01:24:35.480]  And the first place to do start the scaring is the first hearing they're going to call you to
[01:24:35.480 --> 01:24:41.480]  And in Austin, they'll call you to a hearing to find out if you have an attorney
[01:24:41.480 --> 01:24:43.480]  Actually it was Williamson County
[01:24:43.480 --> 01:24:46.480]  Oh, goody
[01:24:46.480 --> 01:24:49.480]  Good old Williamson County
[01:24:49.480 --> 01:24:52.480]  Okay
[01:24:52.480 --> 01:24:55.480]  I'm kind of familiar with the procedure there
[01:24:55.480 --> 01:24:56.480]  Yeah
[01:24:56.480 --> 01:24:59.480]  Been there, done that
[01:24:59.480 --> 01:25:05.480]  All I did was go to the district attorney and give him a criminal complaint against the sheriff's deputy
[01:25:05.480 --> 01:25:07.480]  And when he wouldn't take it, I called 911
[01:25:07.480 --> 01:25:11.480]  Inside the Williamson County courthouse
[01:25:11.480 --> 01:25:17.480]  It was the Round Rock police that did the terrorism on me
[01:25:17.480 --> 01:25:20.480]  And then I went to, of course, the Williamson County jail
[01:25:20.480 --> 01:25:24.480]  Okay, they're going to prosecute you
[01:25:24.480 --> 01:25:28.480]  And do everything they can to force you to take a deal
[01:25:28.480 --> 01:25:33.480]  It's extremely important that they get you to take a deal
[01:25:33.480 --> 01:25:36.480]  Otherwise you can sue the crapola out of them
[01:25:36.480 --> 01:25:39.480]  Oh yeah, I'm not scared of them anymore
[01:25:39.480 --> 01:25:41.480]  Good, okay
[01:25:41.480 --> 01:25:50.480]  Then it goes to my philosophy of how do you defend yourself against a dog
[01:25:50.480 --> 01:25:52.480]  Don't
[01:25:52.480 --> 01:25:55.480]  If you try to defend yourself against a dog, he'll eat you alive
[01:25:55.480 --> 01:25:58.480]  Just beat the crap out of him
[01:25:58.480 --> 01:26:01.480]  There's hardly a person out here who can't beat up a dog
[01:26:01.480 --> 01:26:04.480]  The only reason you get hurt by a dog is you're afraid of it
[01:26:04.480 --> 01:26:06.480]  You knock the crapola out of it, it hits a road
[01:26:06.480 --> 01:26:14.480]  So what I suggest is you can go on my website to jurisimprudence.com
[01:26:14.480 --> 01:26:16.480]  It's got a bunch of frogs on there
[01:26:16.480 --> 01:26:18.480]  I call this the frog farm conspiracy
[01:26:18.480 --> 01:26:22.480]  Top frog on the left, there's a writ of habeas corpus there
[01:26:22.480 --> 01:26:24.480]  Pull that writ down and read it
[01:26:24.480 --> 01:26:27.480]  It walks through due process
[01:26:27.480 --> 01:26:32.480]  All of the things they're supposed to do when they arrest you
[01:26:32.480 --> 01:26:38.480]  So what I'm going to talk about are the things before you got to arrest
[01:26:38.480 --> 01:26:41.480]  Okay
[01:26:41.480 --> 01:26:46.480]  This idea of a 911 call
[01:26:46.480 --> 01:26:49.480]  Did they give any substance to that?
[01:26:49.480 --> 01:26:52.480]  No
[01:26:52.480 --> 01:26:55.480]  There had to be a reason they showed up
[01:26:55.480 --> 01:27:00.480]  Well I think, you know, because I'm a security party
[01:27:00.480 --> 01:27:04.480]  So I have plates with my apostolic ambassador
[01:27:04.480 --> 01:27:06.480]  So I think maybe he was driving through the neighborhood
[01:27:06.480 --> 01:27:09.480]  And wanted to see what that was all about
[01:27:09.480 --> 01:27:13.480]  I think, I'm not positive, but that's probably the only thing
[01:27:13.480 --> 01:27:21.480]  Okay, first thing you got to get in is a request for the 911 logs
[01:27:21.480 --> 01:27:24.480]  Is this the Freedom of Information Act?
[01:27:24.480 --> 01:27:31.480]  No, this goes to 124 Government Code, I mean Code of Code and Procedure
[01:27:31.480 --> 01:27:36.480]  Article 1, paragraph 10, Constitution
[01:27:36.480 --> 01:27:38.480]  This is court records
[01:27:38.480 --> 01:27:40.480]  You're going to statutory
[01:27:40.480 --> 01:27:42.480]  Yeah, we need to, yeah, I never go to Constitution
[01:27:42.480 --> 01:27:44.480]  I always go to statutes
[01:27:44.480 --> 01:27:45.480]  Okay
[01:27:45.480 --> 01:27:48.480]  And this one, since you have been charged
[01:27:48.480 --> 01:27:51.480]  Since you've been arrested, there are prosecutions in process
[01:27:51.480 --> 01:27:54.480]  You do this with discovery
[01:27:54.480 --> 01:27:55.480]  Okay
[01:27:55.480 --> 01:27:59.480]  And you put in a motion to preserve evidence
[01:27:59.480 --> 01:28:03.480]  You want the 911 logs preserved
[01:28:03.480 --> 01:28:06.480]  And I don't think Round Rock keeps them
[01:28:06.480 --> 01:28:10.480]  I think Travis, Williamson County, the county will have the 911 logs
[01:28:10.480 --> 01:28:11.480]  Okay
[01:28:11.480 --> 01:28:14.480]  Because 911 almost always goes to sheriff
[01:28:14.480 --> 01:28:16.480]  So Round Rock's not going to have any control over that
[01:28:16.480 --> 01:28:19.480]  They got a problem there
[01:28:19.480 --> 01:28:22.480]  They'll have to have a tape of that call
[01:28:22.480 --> 01:28:27.480]  And a log showing precisely where it comes from and that they don't have it
[01:28:27.480 --> 01:28:30.480]  The best way to keep your prosecution from happening
[01:28:30.480 --> 01:28:33.480]  And this is what happened in my case
[01:28:33.480 --> 01:28:35.480]  Is go after them
[01:28:35.480 --> 01:28:39.480]  Oh yeah, I intend to do it
[01:28:39.480 --> 01:28:42.480]  Okay, read that writ, but before we get to the writ
[01:28:42.480 --> 01:28:44.480]  Okay, they knocked on your door
[01:28:44.480 --> 01:28:47.480]  And then they opened the door
[01:28:47.480 --> 01:28:50.480]  Now, when he opened the door
[01:28:50.480 --> 01:28:53.480]  Did he have a weapon in his hand?
[01:28:53.480 --> 01:28:55.480]  No
[01:28:55.480 --> 01:28:59.480]  Did he have backup standing close by with weapons in their hands?
[01:28:59.480 --> 01:29:02.480]  No, he was the only one
[01:29:02.480 --> 01:29:03.480]  He was by himself?
[01:29:03.480 --> 01:29:04.480]  Yeah
[01:29:04.480 --> 01:29:07.480]  Oh, this guy screwed up
[01:29:07.480 --> 01:29:09.480]  Big time
[01:29:09.480 --> 01:29:12.480]  Had there been a 911 call
[01:29:12.480 --> 01:29:13.480]  And hang up
[01:29:13.480 --> 01:29:17.480]  And they believe that there is a felony in progress
[01:29:17.480 --> 01:29:21.480]  Because of the hang up on the 911 call
[01:29:21.480 --> 01:29:24.480]  He would be there with backup
[01:29:24.480 --> 01:29:30.480]  Yeah, which lends backup, so to speak, to Arnold's story that
[01:29:30.480 --> 01:29:33.480]  They just saw his license plate in front of his house
[01:29:33.480 --> 01:29:35.480]  He would have his pistol in his hand
[01:29:35.480 --> 01:29:37.480]  Okay, listen, we're going to break
[01:29:37.480 --> 01:29:39.480]  And we do have two other callers
[01:29:39.480 --> 01:29:41.480]  We've got Kerry from California
[01:29:41.480 --> 01:29:44.480]  And Dan from Connecticut that may want to ask my questions
[01:29:44.480 --> 01:29:48.480]  Randy, do you have more to finish up with Arnold right now on the other side?
[01:29:48.480 --> 01:29:49.480]  Yeah, a little bit
[01:29:49.480 --> 01:29:52.480]  We probably need to talk off the air, so I'll finish up quickly
[01:29:52.480 --> 01:29:53.480]  Okay, finish up quickly on the other side
[01:29:53.480 --> 01:29:54.480]  And we'll be right back
[01:29:54.480 --> 01:30:00.480]  We'll go to Kerry and then Dan
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[01:31:00.480 --> 01:31:04.480]  Yeah, who you want to check? Who you take me for? Free Tully?
[01:31:04.480 --> 01:31:08.480]  Who you want to check? Me no free Tully, you can't check me
[01:31:08.480 --> 01:31:12.480]  All the facts, don't let them check you in the morning, check you in the evening
[01:31:12.480 --> 01:31:16.480]  Put a chip in your body, and then when you go computer reading
[01:31:16.480 --> 01:31:19.480]  You can't hide me from nobody when me say
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[01:31:24.480 --> 01:31:29.480]  Chip in on me, chip in on your baby, chip in on your family, whole family
[01:31:29.480 --> 01:31:34.480]  Chip in on your dog and the cat around me, chip in on the beef and you still go eat it
[01:31:34.480 --> 01:31:39.480]  Chip in on the fish, them all in the sea, chip in on the shark and the whale around me
[01:31:39.480 --> 01:31:44.480]  You must be mankind, you can't check crazy, they're connecting and they want to repeat
[01:31:44.480 --> 01:31:48.480]  Social security, they've got to tell me, number with them, give me, then repeat up, you'll see
[01:31:48.480 --> 01:31:53.480]  I'm chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening, chip you all again in time
[01:31:53.480 --> 01:31:58.480]  Experiment on mankind, but man, you know, say them lies
[01:31:58.480 --> 01:32:03.480]  We don't want no chip, man, you have your body, freedom or something, man, you fight for me
[01:32:03.480 --> 01:32:05.480]  You should tell them the truth, Constitution...
[01:32:05.480 --> 01:32:09.480]  Okay, we are back. Mike Mears is still with us.
[01:32:09.480 --> 01:32:14.480]  He just got an email from a listener that we're going to discuss in a moment.
[01:32:14.480 --> 01:32:18.480]  We're going to finish up with Arnold, though, right now. So, Randy, go ahead.
[01:32:18.480 --> 01:32:21.480]  Yeah, Arnold, we have a lot to talk about.
[01:32:21.480 --> 01:32:23.480]  Okay.
[01:32:23.480 --> 01:32:26.480]  Call me tomorrow, call on the show tomorrow.
[01:32:26.480 --> 01:32:27.480]  Oh, on the show? Okay.
[01:32:27.480 --> 01:32:30.480]  Yeah, I don't think we have a... Do we have a guest, Deb?
[01:32:30.480 --> 01:32:36.480]  No, not that I know of. Tomorrow night is open mind, open line, open phone lines, open topics.
[01:32:36.480 --> 01:32:44.480]  I'm going to start out with due process, but call in early and we'll walk through how to handle your issue.
[01:32:44.480 --> 01:32:51.480]  Yeah, call in towards the beginning of the show, Arnold, and then we can use your case as an example to walk through due process.
[01:32:51.480 --> 01:32:53.480]  Okay, I have one real quick question.
[01:32:53.480 --> 01:33:00.480]  I did call in the county and asked them if there was a cause number. I mean, the court said they haven't had one yet. Is that...
[01:33:00.480 --> 01:33:06.480]  That's because the prosecutor has hijacked the documents.
[01:33:06.480 --> 01:33:10.480]  Basically, felony tampering with a government document is what he's done.
[01:33:10.480 --> 01:33:16.480]  What's supposed to happen is the magistrate is supposed to seal the documents from the examining trial,
[01:33:16.480 --> 01:33:20.480]  which is actually an ex parte hearing at this point, illegally.
[01:33:20.480 --> 01:33:24.480]  What they did is they put you through a magistration, and those documents,
[01:33:24.480 --> 01:33:31.480]  instead of being forwarded to the clerk of the court, the prosecutor hijacked them en route, so to speak,
[01:33:31.480 --> 01:33:36.480]  and has them, and the prosecutor isn't going to file them until he squeezes you for a deal.
[01:33:36.480 --> 01:33:39.480]  So the court does not even know you exist.
[01:33:39.480 --> 01:33:41.480]  Technically, there's no case.
[01:33:41.480 --> 01:33:46.480]  Technically, there is no case against you right now as far as the eyes of the court.
[01:33:46.480 --> 01:33:50.480]  So, yeah, that's a huge problem for the prosecutor. We can discuss that more tomorrow.
[01:33:50.480 --> 01:33:51.480]  Okay.
[01:33:51.480 --> 01:33:52.480]  Okay.
[01:33:52.480 --> 01:33:53.480]  All right.
[01:33:53.480 --> 01:33:59.480]  All right, call in early, towards the beginning of the show, shortly after 8, and then we'll use your case as an example.
[01:33:59.480 --> 01:34:00.480]  Okay.
[01:34:00.480 --> 01:34:01.480]  All right, great. Excellent.
[01:34:01.480 --> 01:34:02.480]  Okay.
[01:34:02.480 --> 01:34:04.480]  Okay, wonderful. So we're going to walk through due process tomorrow.
[01:34:04.480 --> 01:34:08.480]  We're going to discuss the whole thing in detail, lay it all out with Arnold.
[01:34:08.480 --> 01:34:12.480]  All right, we're going to go now to Carrie in California. Carrie, thanks for calling in.
[01:34:12.480 --> 01:34:15.480]  What's on your mind tonight? You have a question for Mike Miras?
[01:34:15.480 --> 01:34:25.480]  I have a question about municipal code and how a town of less than 7,000 people is currently looking at contracting with the U.S.
[01:34:25.480 --> 01:34:28.480]  Army Corps of Engineers to plan a desalination plan.
[01:34:28.480 --> 01:34:36.480]  It's a special district, and they have a municipal code even though they're a special district,
[01:34:36.480 --> 01:34:39.480]  and I'm confused as to how they have the authority to do that.
[01:34:39.480 --> 01:34:46.480]  Wait a minute. I'm not sure I even understood the question.
[01:34:46.480 --> 01:34:57.480]  Okay. I'm in Cambria, California, and the Cambria Community Services District,
[01:34:57.480 --> 01:35:05.480]  which is the special district that handles utilities, is currently working with the U.S.
[01:35:05.480 --> 01:35:14.480]  Army Corps of Engineers who've got federal funding to build a desalination plan in the town.
[01:35:14.480 --> 01:35:20.480]  And I am questioning how they have authority to make such a contract, A,
[01:35:20.480 --> 01:35:25.480]  and B, what is the difference between a special district and a city
[01:35:25.480 --> 01:35:33.480]  and how we can have a municipal code even though we're not a city?
[01:35:33.480 --> 01:35:44.480]  That's a good question, and it goes to specifics of California law, and frankly, it's out of my league.
[01:35:44.480 --> 01:35:45.480]  Okay.
[01:35:45.480 --> 01:35:46.480]  You know what?
[01:35:46.480 --> 01:35:52.480]  You may want to call in and talk to the Agenda 21 crew, the Agenda 21 talk voice.
[01:35:52.480 --> 01:35:55.480]  They are the specialists when it comes to this sort of thing.
[01:35:55.480 --> 01:36:00.480]  Their show is on Tuesday nights from 8 to 10 Central.
[01:36:00.480 --> 01:36:04.480]  They're the ones that specialize in municipal code and city ordinances
[01:36:04.480 --> 01:36:07.480]  and how to deal with this kind of thing.
[01:36:07.480 --> 01:36:13.480]  And they'll be able to, I mean, I'm sure that they haven't studied in-depth California ordinances
[01:36:13.480 --> 01:36:19.480]  and statutes and municipal codes, but they would probably be better equipped to point you in the direction
[01:36:19.480 --> 01:36:25.480]  of where you need to start looking to research these things.
[01:36:25.480 --> 01:36:31.480]  I know the California government code that special districts fall under.
[01:36:31.480 --> 01:36:37.480]  They go to the California Association of Local Agency Formations, something or other.
[01:36:37.480 --> 01:36:43.480]  They're the LA CFOs, and it's under government code 56,000.
[01:36:43.480 --> 01:36:49.480]  But I don't know how that all works, and it seems really crazy that there are five board members
[01:36:49.480 --> 01:36:57.480]  who decide everything in conjunction with committees on the utility end of things.
[01:36:57.480 --> 01:37:08.480]  But that's still how they're able to make a contract supposedly with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to build this thing.
[01:37:08.480 --> 01:37:10.480]  So anyhow.
[01:37:10.480 --> 01:37:12.480]  Yeah, well, this is way out of my league.
[01:37:12.480 --> 01:37:17.480]  I could give you just my personal opinion, but that's about all it would be worth.
[01:37:17.480 --> 01:37:21.480]  This is something that's going to have to be pretty thoroughly researched, Carrie.
[01:37:21.480 --> 01:37:22.480]  Yeah.
[01:37:22.480 --> 01:37:30.480]  This is highly specialized local ordinance and code that you're talking about that we certainly would not be familiar with here.
[01:37:30.480 --> 01:37:37.480]  But like I said, if you can wait this long, I mean, unless there's some imminent danger that needs to be dealt with
[01:37:37.480 --> 01:37:41.480]  within the next few days, and it's Thursday night, if you could call in, like I said,
[01:37:41.480 --> 01:37:49.480]  call in to Agenda 21 Talk here on this network from 8 to 10 on Tuesday nights, I guess what is 6 to 8,
[01:37:49.480 --> 01:37:58.480]  your time out on the West Coast, they would probably have much more experience in being able to guide you
[01:37:58.480 --> 01:38:03.480]  in the right direction of where to look to reconcile these issues and how to deal with it.
[01:38:03.480 --> 01:38:06.480]  They're the specialists on that sort of thing.
[01:38:06.480 --> 01:38:11.480]  Okay, it's not like they're building the plant tomorrow, but they're definitely fast tracking.
[01:38:11.480 --> 01:38:13.480]  Okay, then you have a few days.
[01:38:13.480 --> 01:38:16.480]  You've got enough time to consult with those guys.
[01:38:16.480 --> 01:38:17.480]  Yes, exactly.
[01:38:17.480 --> 01:38:18.480]  Okay.
[01:38:17.480 --> 01:38:18.480]  Thank you so much, guys.
[01:38:18.480 --> 01:38:20.480]  Okay, thanks, Carrie.
[01:38:20.480 --> 01:38:21.480]  Okay.
[01:38:20.480 --> 01:38:21.480]  Okay, bye-bye.
[01:38:21.480 --> 01:38:22.480]  Good night.
[01:38:22.480 --> 01:38:24.480]  Okay, callers, if you'd like to call in and talk to Mike Miras.
[01:38:24.480 --> 01:38:26.480]  He's agreed to stay on with us.
[01:38:26.480 --> 01:38:29.480]  He's hanging in the background listening to all this.
[01:38:29.480 --> 01:38:34.480]  So 512-646-1984, we're going to go down to Dan in Connecticut.
[01:38:34.480 --> 01:38:39.480]  Okay, Dan, you have a question and comment from our guest, Mike Miras.
[01:38:39.480 --> 01:38:42.480]  I wish I did, but I did not get enough time to think of one.
[01:38:42.480 --> 01:38:48.480]  However, I did have a really interesting case going on right now, and I think I told you guys about it before.
[01:38:48.480 --> 01:38:51.480]  It got a little more interesting.
[01:38:51.480 --> 01:39:05.480]  There is a statute in Connecticut, specifically 51-183A, that says a judge may not preside over a motion attacking the validity
[01:39:05.480 --> 01:39:14.480]  or the substance of a bench warrant that he'd issued, but guess what's about to happen next month?
[01:39:14.480 --> 01:39:16.480]  The judge is going to hold a France hearing?
[01:39:16.480 --> 01:39:18.480]  Yes.
[01:39:18.480 --> 01:39:22.480]  Ooh, you want to call the judge as a witness?
[01:39:22.480 --> 01:39:23.480]  What do you want your witness with?
[01:39:23.480 --> 01:39:25.480]  It's already been done.
[01:39:25.480 --> 01:39:26.480]  Good.
[01:39:26.480 --> 01:39:29.480]  So have you filed a motion to disqualify?
[01:39:29.480 --> 01:39:32.480]  Yes, and he ruled on it.
[01:39:32.480 --> 01:39:34.480]  Have you filed criminal charges?
[01:39:34.480 --> 01:39:36.480]  Not yet.
[01:39:36.480 --> 01:39:43.480]  Criminal charges, do you have court warrant proceedings in Connecticut?
[01:39:43.480 --> 01:39:51.480]  I have not been able to find those in Connecticut, because I know I mentioned this probably God 18 months ago,
[01:39:51.480 --> 01:39:57.480]  but when I started looking in Connecticut to see what they had done, they repealed a whole lot of statutes,
[01:39:57.480 --> 01:39:59.480]  and a lot of them had to do with procedures and due process.
[01:39:59.480 --> 01:40:00.480]  Okay, then no problem.
[01:40:00.480 --> 01:40:03.480]  Import from another state or defense.
[01:40:03.480 --> 01:40:11.480]  Also file a cross-complaint against the judge, acting without subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:40:11.480 --> 01:40:16.480]  He does not have subject matter jurisdiction to rule on this issue.
[01:40:16.480 --> 01:40:23.480]  Here's the interesting thing, though, and this is partially what I observed when I was able to attend,
[01:40:23.480 --> 01:40:27.480]  and this is what the person I'm trying to help out with observed.
[01:40:27.480 --> 01:40:37.480]  He got real polite after he really started taking the guy to task on this stuff, and it almost seemed like,
[01:40:37.480 --> 01:40:43.480]  and I kind of went ahead and plagiarized something you did for that thing you almost got in trouble for.
[01:40:43.480 --> 01:40:46.480]  You what? You plagiarized me?
[01:40:46.480 --> 01:40:50.480]  Yeah, and somebody else plagiarized me, so hey, that's how it works.
[01:40:50.480 --> 01:40:58.480]  But in any case, it had to do with people who didn't quite say that they in fact believed you'd committed a crime,
[01:40:58.480 --> 01:41:05.480]  and the question, and this is right out there on the information attached to the warrant,
[01:41:05.480 --> 01:41:10.480]  the officer's asking whether there is probable cause.
[01:41:10.480 --> 01:41:14.480]  The judge, I guess from what I heard, seemed very interested in that,
[01:41:14.480 --> 01:41:21.480]  and he almost seemed like he found a way out of this, like he was ready to throw the whole thing out.
[01:41:21.480 --> 01:41:22.480]  But here's what he said.
[01:41:22.480 --> 01:41:28.480]  He basically wanted some kind of case law in Connecticut, but here's the problem with that,
[01:41:28.480 --> 01:41:33.480]  and that also goes to the doctrine of trespass and ab initio.
[01:41:33.480 --> 01:41:39.480]  There is no case law in Connecticut.
[01:41:39.480 --> 01:41:44.480]  I couldn't find any.
[01:41:44.480 --> 01:41:50.480]  Okay, if there's none in Connecticut, you can draw in from other states.
[01:41:50.480 --> 01:41:57.480]  Yeah, and that was on the pleadings, but the judge just went ahead and dismissed those.
[01:41:57.480 --> 01:42:01.480]  Well, good. File criminal charges against the judge.
[01:42:01.480 --> 01:42:04.480]  Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
[01:42:04.480 --> 01:42:06.480]  And sue him personally.
[01:42:06.480 --> 01:42:19.480]  You maintain that he has no jurisdiction to hear a case that tests whether or not he ruled correctly in a hearing.
[01:42:19.480 --> 01:42:22.480]  Have you looked up the case on Frank's hearing?
[01:42:22.480 --> 01:42:23.480]  Yes, I did.
[01:42:23.480 --> 01:42:33.480]  I read the whole thing, and it was very informative, and I can't wait to see what he will probably do with it.
[01:42:33.480 --> 01:42:37.480]  I can't wait to hear what happens when you call him to the stand.
[01:42:37.480 --> 01:42:39.480]  Yes, this should be very entertaining.
[01:42:39.480 --> 01:42:46.480]  Oh, by the way, speaking of calling people to the stand, we got the prosecutor.
[01:42:46.480 --> 01:42:55.480]  The prosecutor, I think I remember I told you, sent or actually had another state's attorney sent, and basically when we responded to this,
[01:42:55.480 --> 01:43:00.480]  one of the questions was, are you the prosecutor pro tem we've been looking for?
[01:43:00.480 --> 01:43:06.480]  Because this guy wasn't even on the case, and there was a whole bunch of other stuff that he let the prosecutor get away with.
[01:43:06.480 --> 01:43:14.480]  But long story short, they asked for all the witnesses that this guy would be calling, and this guy was essentially through my pen.
[01:43:14.480 --> 01:43:19.480]  We don't know who we're going to call because we intend to put your witnesses on our witness list,
[01:43:19.480 --> 01:43:23.480]  but here's who we do intend to call for the Frank's hearing.
[01:43:23.480 --> 01:43:25.480]  Now, here's the thing about that.
[01:43:25.480 --> 01:43:34.480]  In Connecticut, General Practice Book, Section 40-13 basically says you have to disclose all the witnesses and the questions,
[01:43:34.480 --> 01:43:36.480]  and you have 45 days to respond.
[01:43:36.480 --> 01:43:39.480]  Day 45 is tomorrow.
[01:43:39.480 --> 01:43:42.480]  Haven't heard anything, and you can be sanctioned for that.
[01:43:42.480 --> 01:43:45.480]  Okay, hold on. Hold on, Dan. We're about to go to break.
[01:43:45.480 --> 01:43:46.480]  Okay.
[01:43:45.480 --> 01:43:47.480]  Okay, stay on the inside.
[01:43:47.480 --> 01:43:49.480]  All right, we got one more segment coming up.
[01:43:49.480 --> 01:43:51.480]  Mike Mears is still with us.
[01:43:51.480 --> 01:43:56.480]  Y'all got one last segment to ask Mike Mears the question, 512-646-1984.
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[01:45:24.480 --> 01:45:28.480]  Something I realize fully.
[01:45:28.480 --> 01:45:33.480]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman.
[01:45:33.480 --> 01:45:36.480]  Somebody's gonna police the police.
[01:45:36.480 --> 01:45:41.480]  There's always room at the top of the hill.
[01:45:41.480 --> 01:45:46.480]  I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely there too.
[01:45:46.480 --> 01:45:50.480]  They're wishing it was more than a position to fail.
[01:45:50.480 --> 01:45:55.480]  They know that if they don't do it, somebody will.
[01:45:55.480 --> 01:45:58.480]  Okay, we know Ja will.
[01:45:58.480 --> 01:46:00.480]  All right, we're speaking with Dan in Connecticut.
[01:46:00.480 --> 01:46:02.480]  I just saw Lisa on the call board.
[01:46:02.480 --> 01:46:04.480]  She's probably being screened right now.
[01:46:04.480 --> 01:46:06.480]  So we're gonna finish up with Dan and then go to Lisa
[01:46:06.480 --> 01:46:12.480]  because Mike Miras has so generously given us his time this evening, the full two hours.
[01:46:12.480 --> 01:46:15.480]  We definitely want to get to his closing comments and these sorts of things.
[01:46:15.480 --> 01:46:19.480]  So okay, go ahead, Dan.
[01:46:19.480 --> 01:46:22.480]  Okay, quick capsule to wrap up the last part of it.
[01:46:22.480 --> 01:46:27.480]  I was mentioning 40-13 of the general practice book in Connecticut.
[01:46:27.480 --> 01:46:33.480]  Forty-five days you have to respond to the opposing counsel's request for a witness list,
[01:46:33.480 --> 01:46:36.480]  questions you're gonna be asking and such.
[01:46:36.480 --> 01:46:43.480]  Day 45 by my calculations when his counter request was filed would be tomorrow.
[01:46:43.480 --> 01:46:49.480]  And in open court, the state's attorney basically said, yeah, I got six to ten witnesses.
[01:46:49.480 --> 01:46:51.480]  Well, guess what she didn't do?
[01:46:51.480 --> 01:46:57.480]  Say who they were or say what they would be asked or say what they would prove.
[01:46:57.480 --> 01:47:03.480]  So basically, this is gonna go to probably another handy notion to dismiss.
[01:47:03.480 --> 01:47:06.480]  Is this gonna act as a stopple?
[01:47:06.480 --> 01:47:09.480]  I think it could.
[01:47:09.480 --> 01:47:11.480]  Wonderful.
[01:47:11.480 --> 01:47:15.480]  I'd like to see what happens when she tries to bring him in.
[01:47:15.480 --> 01:47:21.480]  And oh, by the way, this is the same prosecutor who I actually saw pretty much wear her brown pants in open court,
[01:47:21.480 --> 01:47:24.480]  which is, I tell you, you gotta see this.
[01:47:24.480 --> 01:47:26.480]  You haven't lived until you have.
[01:47:26.480 --> 01:47:30.480]  So on that note, I'm gonna wrap it up and let you take your next caller.
[01:47:30.480 --> 01:47:35.480]  And hopefully she's not going to take a court-appointed use code.
[01:47:35.480 --> 01:47:37.480]  Okay, thanks, Dan.
[01:47:37.480 --> 01:47:39.480]  All right, I'll let you guys know what happens.
[01:47:39.480 --> 01:47:40.480]  All right, please do.
[01:47:40.480 --> 01:47:42.480]  You're on the right track.
[01:47:42.480 --> 01:47:43.480]  This is wonderful.
[01:47:43.480 --> 01:47:44.480]  I hope so.
[01:47:44.480 --> 01:47:45.480]  Anyway, I'll talk to you later.
[01:47:45.480 --> 01:47:46.480]  Okay, talk to you later, Dan.
[01:47:46.480 --> 01:47:49.480]  Dan is a longtime supporter of the network up there in Connecticut.
[01:47:49.480 --> 01:47:52.480]  Okay, we're gonna go now to Lisa in Texas.
[01:47:52.480 --> 01:47:53.480]  Lisa, thanks for calling in.
[01:47:53.480 --> 01:47:55.480]  You have a question for Mike, our guest?
[01:47:55.480 --> 01:47:56.480]  Yes, I do.
[01:47:56.480 --> 01:48:02.480]  I'm hesitating to call in because I'm not sure I've got enough information to ask the right questions,
[01:48:02.480 --> 01:48:06.480]  but I'll give it a shot because I've got a pressing issue.
[01:48:06.480 --> 01:48:11.480]  My husband got served with papers the other day, the other morning,
[01:48:11.480 --> 01:48:16.480]  apparently over a credit card company trying to collect a debt,
[01:48:16.480 --> 01:48:25.480]  and he was supposed to go to the courthouse and file some kind of answer to that summer.
[01:48:25.480 --> 01:48:31.480]  And he was going to do that tomorrow, so I wanted to get a hold of you to find out, you know,
[01:48:31.480 --> 01:48:37.480]  because I know from listening enough of this that he can deal with this issue
[01:48:37.480 --> 01:48:41.480]  with the methods that you have talked about on the air,
[01:48:41.480 --> 01:48:46.480]  although I haven't been able to listen to every time you're on consistently.
[01:48:46.480 --> 01:48:55.480]  But I know that he can be helped, but the problem is that I'm the one that listens to the show,
[01:48:55.480 --> 01:48:58.480]  and everything that I tell him, he gets from me,
[01:48:58.480 --> 01:49:01.480]  and so it's a little hard to relay the information correctly.
[01:49:01.480 --> 01:49:03.480]  Right.
[01:49:03.480 --> 01:49:07.480]  Well, first of all, it's very funny because I was going to talk about that,
[01:49:07.480 --> 01:49:10.480]  about a friend of death by the name of Willow,
[01:49:10.480 --> 01:49:19.480]  who has gotten a similar notice to respond to the court for documents that were served upon them.
[01:49:19.480 --> 01:49:22.480]  And you have to be very careful in the local courts.
[01:49:22.480 --> 01:49:25.480]  It's very, very biased in there.
[01:49:25.480 --> 01:49:30.480]  They generally will come in with what they call an affidavit of debt.
[01:49:30.480 --> 01:49:35.480]  And the affidavit of debt is written by someone that we don't know who the heck they are.
[01:49:35.480 --> 01:49:37.480]  They'll say you owe them a million dollars,
[01:49:37.480 --> 01:49:40.480]  and that's like me calling you up out of the blue and saying,
[01:49:40.480 --> 01:49:42.480]  hey, you owe me a million bucks, babe.
[01:49:42.480 --> 01:49:44.480]  What the heck does that mean?
[01:49:44.480 --> 01:49:45.480]  Right, okay.
[01:49:45.480 --> 01:49:48.480]  And that's what they're doing, and here's the problem.
[01:49:48.480 --> 01:49:53.480]  A lot of people try to think they get in, they see this stuff on the Internet,
[01:49:53.480 --> 01:49:59.480]  and they start copying documents, and I never had this account, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[01:49:59.480 --> 01:50:03.480]  And that's fine when you're in trial, okay?
[01:50:03.480 --> 01:50:06.480]  The problem, you're not in trial yet, okay?
[01:50:06.480 --> 01:50:13.480]  They're asking you to respond to the complaint, and your answer is quite simple.
[01:50:13.480 --> 01:50:18.480]  And Randy, I think, is going to back me up on this 100%.
[01:50:18.480 --> 01:50:23.480]  I file a complaint with the court, and I say, you owe me this amount of money.
[01:50:23.480 --> 01:50:27.480]  The court lacks jurisdiction.
[01:50:27.480 --> 01:50:29.480]  I'll say that one more time.
[01:50:29.480 --> 01:50:34.480]  The court lacks jurisdiction because there is no alleged debt before the court.
[01:50:34.480 --> 01:50:40.480]  There's only a statement from somebody we don't know who the heck they are.
[01:50:40.480 --> 01:50:43.480]  So you would motion the court to dismiss the case.
[01:50:43.480 --> 01:50:51.480]  Your response back would be, I motion the court to dismiss the case based on the fact that the court lacks jurisdiction.
[01:50:51.480 --> 01:50:59.480]  There's no documents before the court showing any money owed, any contracts, et cetera.
[01:50:59.480 --> 01:51:02.480]  So that's what you would do, is that would be your answer back to the court.
[01:51:02.480 --> 01:51:07.480]  Motion the court to dismiss because the court lacks jurisdiction in this case.
[01:51:07.480 --> 01:51:12.480]  There's no documents to prove any alleged account, period.
[01:51:12.480 --> 01:51:14.480]  Where are you at?
[01:51:14.480 --> 01:51:16.480]  You're here in Austin?
[01:51:16.480 --> 01:51:18.480]  I'm right here in Austin, yes.
[01:51:18.480 --> 01:51:21.480]  Okay.
[01:51:21.480 --> 01:51:24.480]  Contact me, email me.
[01:51:24.480 --> 01:51:26.480]  I can show you how to handle this.
[01:51:26.480 --> 01:51:34.480]  We just nailed Herb Evans, the JP here in Austin.
[01:51:34.480 --> 01:51:40.480]  Check to see if the petition is notarized.
[01:51:40.480 --> 01:51:46.480]  In Texas, normally you can file an original petition and not notarize it.
[01:51:46.480 --> 01:51:54.480]  Except when it's a suit on account, the account must be included,
[01:51:54.480 --> 01:52:00.480]  it must be affirmed by someone with knowledge of the information in the account,
[01:52:00.480 --> 01:52:03.480]  and the petition must be verified.
[01:52:03.480 --> 01:52:07.480]  We got one that wasn't verified, so we countersued the judge.
[01:52:07.480 --> 01:52:08.480]  That was a hoot.
[01:52:08.480 --> 01:52:11.480]  And then the judge got the county attorney to answer.
[01:52:11.480 --> 01:52:14.480]  We claimed the judge didn't have subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:52:14.480 --> 01:52:17.480]  The answer didn't address subject matter jurisdiction,
[01:52:17.480 --> 01:52:21.480]  so we count we're going to file criminal complaints against the judge
[01:52:21.480 --> 01:52:24.480]  and the prosecutor for misappropriation of public funds
[01:52:24.480 --> 01:52:28.480]  and include the prosecutor in the suit.
[01:52:28.480 --> 01:52:32.480]  Oh, we're having too much fun with this.
[01:52:32.480 --> 01:52:36.480]  And the other thing you want to do, too, just for chuckles,
[01:52:36.480 --> 01:52:41.480]  you know, these debt collectors, they pull some weird stuff,
[01:52:41.480 --> 01:52:45.480]  and they'll serve you with this to scare you, okay?
[01:52:45.480 --> 01:52:49.480]  Have you verified the complaint with the court or the court,
[01:52:49.480 --> 01:52:51.480]  have you or your husband called up the court and say,
[01:52:51.480 --> 01:52:56.480]  hey, does this case exist, do you have this case number?
[01:52:56.480 --> 01:52:59.480]  Willow got one and there was no case number on it.
[01:52:59.480 --> 01:53:02.480]  Does this case exist, okay.
[01:53:02.480 --> 01:53:05.480]  So I asked her, I said, I advise you to call the court first,
[01:53:05.480 --> 01:53:09.480]  because a lot of times they do that as scare tactics, you know.
[01:53:09.480 --> 01:53:10.480]  Right.
[01:53:10.480 --> 01:53:11.480]  All right.
[01:53:11.480 --> 01:53:13.480]  So that's another point.
[01:53:13.480 --> 01:53:18.480]  I would check with the court to see if there's a case that actually exists there.
[01:53:18.480 --> 01:53:20.480]  Okay.
[01:53:20.480 --> 01:53:22.480]  And then follow up with Randy,
[01:53:22.480 --> 01:53:25.480]  because he and I are singing from the same sheet of music,
[01:53:25.480 --> 01:53:29.480]  although I don't know his practices and what he does,
[01:53:29.480 --> 01:53:35.480]  but we're right on the same point with the, you know, jurisdiction is an issue here.
[01:53:35.480 --> 01:53:38.480]  Yes, and that's always the first place to go.
[01:53:38.480 --> 01:53:39.480]  Yes.
[01:53:39.480 --> 01:53:46.480]  If I email you tomorrow, first thing, can we get an answer pretty quick?
[01:53:46.480 --> 01:53:48.480]  Because I've emailed you before and I've got an answer like this.
[01:53:48.480 --> 01:53:50.480]  Oh, I'm sorry, I get a lot.
[01:53:50.480 --> 01:53:52.480]  I understand you get a lot.
[01:53:52.480 --> 01:53:55.480]  Put the subject line in all caps.
[01:53:55.480 --> 01:54:03.480]  As soon as I get your email, I'll send you back the suit we filed here in Austin.
[01:54:03.480 --> 01:54:08.480]  Take a look at it, change the names and the dates, fire it right back at them.
[01:54:08.480 --> 01:54:09.480]  All right.
[01:54:09.480 --> 01:54:10.480]  Okay.
[01:54:10.480 --> 01:54:12.480]  Well, I want to do this when I first get up tomorrow.
[01:54:12.480 --> 01:54:13.480]  I work nights.
[01:54:13.480 --> 01:54:15.480]  I'm driving my taxi right now.
[01:54:15.480 --> 01:54:20.480]  Yeah, I always like to refer to this stuff when they do things like this,
[01:54:20.480 --> 01:54:27.480]  is like, you know, I saw you on the grassy knoll in 63 pulling that trigger, okay?
[01:54:27.480 --> 01:54:30.480]  What the heck does that mean?
[01:54:30.480 --> 01:54:31.480]  Okay.
[01:54:31.480 --> 01:54:35.480]  You can say anything and, you know, make them prove it.
[01:54:35.480 --> 01:54:37.480]  Make them prove it.
[01:54:37.480 --> 01:54:38.480]  Bottom line.
[01:54:38.480 --> 01:54:39.480]  Okay.
[01:54:39.480 --> 01:54:45.480]  Well, I think I've got some good things to give to my husband and, you know,
[01:54:45.480 --> 01:54:50.480]  to try to let him because he's all worried about getting down there on time and all this other stuff.
[01:54:50.480 --> 01:54:52.480]  Well, he should be listening to the show then.
[01:54:52.480 --> 01:54:53.480]  Well, no.
[01:54:53.480 --> 01:54:54.480]  Okay.
[01:54:54.480 --> 01:55:04.480]  He has from the date that he receives the documents until the Monday after the 20th day from the day he receives it to answer.
[01:55:04.480 --> 01:55:05.480]  Okay.
[01:55:05.480 --> 01:55:06.480]  All right.
[01:55:06.480 --> 01:55:13.480]  And Lisa, the show is archived so you can download the show later this evening.
[01:55:13.480 --> 01:55:15.480]  I will try to do that.
[01:55:15.480 --> 01:55:16.480]  Yeah.
[01:55:16.480 --> 01:55:22.480]  And, Randy, do they have to serve those there by process server or can they send them through the mail?
[01:55:22.480 --> 01:55:23.480]  Process server.
[01:55:23.480 --> 01:55:24.480]  Okay.
[01:55:24.480 --> 01:55:25.480]  That's another issue.
[01:55:25.480 --> 01:55:26.480]  Was your husband...
[01:55:26.480 --> 01:55:27.480]  Wait.
[01:55:27.480 --> 01:55:28.480]  You got this in the mail?
[01:55:28.480 --> 01:55:29.480]  No.
[01:55:29.480 --> 01:55:30.480]  It was...
[01:55:30.480 --> 01:55:32.480]  Well, I was still in bed asleep.
[01:55:32.480 --> 01:55:35.480]  I heard somebody knock on the door and the dog was barking like crazy.
[01:55:35.480 --> 01:55:36.480]  Yeah.
[01:55:36.480 --> 01:55:38.480]  That was the consternator that my husband said.
[01:55:38.480 --> 01:55:39.480]  Okay.
[01:55:39.480 --> 01:55:40.480]  Yeah.
[01:55:40.480 --> 01:55:41.480]  I got served this morning so...
[01:55:41.480 --> 01:55:42.480]  Okay.
[01:55:42.480 --> 01:55:43.480]  When it happened.
[01:55:43.480 --> 01:55:44.480]  Okay.
[01:55:44.480 --> 01:55:45.480]  How long ago did you get served?
[01:55:45.480 --> 01:55:48.480]  This was Monday morning.
[01:55:48.480 --> 01:55:49.480]  No problem.
[01:55:49.480 --> 01:55:50.480]  You got plenty of time.
[01:55:50.480 --> 01:55:51.480]  Yeah.
[01:55:51.480 --> 01:55:52.480]  All right.
[01:55:52.480 --> 01:55:53.480]  Yeah.
[01:55:53.480 --> 01:55:54.480]  Yeah.
[01:55:54.480 --> 01:55:55.480]  Cool.
[01:55:55.480 --> 01:55:56.480]  Yeah.
[01:55:56.480 --> 01:55:57.480]  Okay.
[01:55:57.480 --> 01:56:02.480]  Well, I'll get on this and reassure my husband that, hey, you know, we're going to win this.
[01:56:02.480 --> 01:56:03.480]  So, all right.
[01:56:03.480 --> 01:56:04.480]  Oh, yeah.
[01:56:04.480 --> 01:56:05.480]  Okay.
[01:56:05.480 --> 01:56:06.480]  You'll have fun with this.
[01:56:06.480 --> 01:56:07.480]  Yeah.
[01:56:07.480 --> 01:56:10.480]  And you may want to get Mike Maris' course too to help you all understand this better.
[01:56:10.480 --> 01:56:14.480]  Yeah, I heard about being available yesterday and I'm trying to figure out where I can come
[01:56:14.480 --> 01:56:17.480]  up with $150 here to get it real quick.
[01:56:17.480 --> 01:56:20.480]  So, I'm definitely going to do that.
[01:56:20.480 --> 01:56:21.480]  Hey, let me tell you something.
[01:56:21.480 --> 01:56:24.480]  The first case you win, you get all that back and more.
[01:56:24.480 --> 01:56:25.480]  Right.
[01:56:25.480 --> 01:56:26.480]  Right.
[01:56:26.480 --> 01:56:29.480]  Make them pay for it.
[01:56:29.480 --> 01:56:34.480]  I'm turning people onto it all the time and I just love hearing you all talk about this
[01:56:34.480 --> 01:56:35.480]  real-life stuff.
[01:56:35.480 --> 01:56:37.480]  So, I'm thoroughly intrigued.
[01:56:37.480 --> 01:56:38.480]  So...
[01:56:38.480 --> 01:56:39.480]  Thank you, Lisa.
[01:56:39.480 --> 01:56:40.480]  Thank you.
[01:56:40.480 --> 01:56:41.480]  Thank you.
[01:56:41.480 --> 01:56:42.480]  Okay.
[01:56:42.480 --> 01:56:43.480]  You have a good night.
[01:56:43.480 --> 01:56:44.480]  Be safe out there on the road.
[01:56:44.480 --> 01:56:45.480]  Thanks.
[01:56:45.480 --> 01:56:46.480]  Good night.
[01:56:46.480 --> 01:56:47.480]  Good night.
[01:56:47.480 --> 01:56:48.480]  Okay.
[01:56:48.480 --> 01:56:49.480]  We're coming up to the end of the show.
[01:56:49.480 --> 01:56:50.480]  We've got about a minute and a half left.
[01:56:50.480 --> 01:56:54.480]  So, Mike, any closing comments for our folks out here?
[01:56:54.480 --> 01:56:56.480]  Well, it's been another interesting show.
[01:56:56.480 --> 01:57:02.480]  I know you were talking about some issues before and I'm not sure.
[01:57:02.480 --> 01:57:06.480]  I know Randy wanted me to bring it back up, but I don't recall what it is now.
[01:57:06.480 --> 01:57:09.480]  But this...
[01:57:09.480 --> 01:57:10.480]  I know one of the things is...
[01:57:10.480 --> 01:57:13.480]  It was the email you got.
[01:57:13.480 --> 01:57:14.480]  Which one was that?
[01:57:14.480 --> 01:57:16.480]  Oh, you got an email just now during the show.
[01:57:16.480 --> 01:57:17.480]  That's the one.
[01:57:17.480 --> 01:57:18.480]  I'm just going to bring that.
[01:57:18.480 --> 01:57:19.480]  Okay.
[01:57:19.480 --> 01:57:23.480]  Yeah, about judgments and can they get removed doing this stuff?
[01:57:23.480 --> 01:57:26.480]  Absolutely.
[01:57:26.480 --> 01:57:31.480]  You'd be surprised what you can do because, see, this gentleman was concentrating on the
[01:57:31.480 --> 01:57:38.480]  lawyers that are chasing him, well, let's reverse it and concentrate on the creditor
[01:57:38.480 --> 01:57:39.480]  that caused the whole problem.
[01:57:39.480 --> 01:57:46.480]  Let's go after the creditor, drag them into federal court, say, oh, by the way, in order
[01:57:46.480 --> 01:57:51.480]  to resolve this, you've got to remove the judgment in the lower court, okay, or we're
[01:57:51.480 --> 01:57:53.480]  going to go to trial.
[01:57:53.480 --> 01:57:55.480]  So, can it be done?
[01:57:55.480 --> 01:57:56.480]  Sure.
[01:57:56.480 --> 01:57:57.480]  Okay.
[01:57:57.480 --> 01:58:02.480]  I don't know what all the details are in this gentleman's court case, but I asked him to
[01:58:02.480 --> 01:58:05.480]  contact me back and give me some details.
[01:58:05.480 --> 01:58:11.480]  And maybe he's gotten involved with the NAF and he's got an invalid judgment there anyway.
[01:58:11.480 --> 01:58:12.480]  All right.
[01:58:12.480 --> 01:58:14.480]  Well, listen, we're at the end of the show.
[01:58:14.480 --> 01:58:18.480]  Mike, thank you so much for joining us again on this further moment like this.
[01:58:18.480 --> 01:58:20.480]  This was wonderful.
[01:58:20.480 --> 01:58:21.480]  Anytime.
[01:58:21.480 --> 01:58:22.480]  All right.
[01:58:22.480 --> 01:58:28.480]  I hope that Mike nearest his course at ruleoflawradio.com, the blue banner, just a little, right towards
[01:58:28.480 --> 01:58:31.480]  the top of the page, right below the photos of all the hosts.
[01:58:31.480 --> 01:58:37.480]  And you can also get the traffic seminar on ruleoflawradio.com too, Eddie's traffic seminar.
[01:58:37.480 --> 01:58:39.480]  It's pure poison for the bad guys.
[01:58:39.480 --> 01:58:41.480]  You've got to get it.
[01:58:41.480 --> 01:58:44.480]  Please stay tuned for Endless Fraud Detection.
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[01:58:48.480 --> 01:58:59.480]  They'll be right up and we will talk to you guys tomorrow night at 8 p.m.
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