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[00:05.400 --> 00:10.520]  The Pentagon will use results of a joint missile defense exercise currently being staged by
[00:10.520 --> 00:17.240]  Israeli and American forces to help formulate a new NATO missile shield for Europe.
[00:17.240 --> 00:22.120]  The de facto government of Honduras has agreed to a deal that may allow ousted President
[00:22.120 --> 00:27.360]  Manuel Zelaya to return to power ahead of elections next month.
[00:27.360 --> 00:32.200]  The House of Representatives will vote Tuesday on a resolution calling on Barack Obama to
[00:32.200 --> 00:38.200]  reject the UN's Goldstone Report, which accuses Israel and Palestinian militants of war crimes
[00:38.200 --> 00:39.560]  in Gaza.
[00:39.560 --> 00:43.920]  The proposal dismisses the report as unworthy of further consideration.
[00:43.920 --> 00:48.360]  Goldstone recommended the report's findings be referred to the International Criminal
[00:48.360 --> 00:57.960]  Court if Israel and Hamas fail to conduct credible investigations within six months.
[00:57.960 --> 01:03.520]  A British nuclear expert who fell from the 17th floor of a UN building did not commit
[01:03.520 --> 01:04.520]  suicide.
[01:04.520 --> 01:10.040]  A doctor who carried out a second post-mortem examination says Timothy Hampton, a scientist
[01:10.040 --> 01:14.680]  involved in monitoring nuclear activity who was found dead last week at the bottom of
[01:14.680 --> 01:18.800]  a stairwell in Vienna, may have been hurled to his death.
[01:18.800 --> 01:24.680]  An initial autopsy concluded there were no suspicious circumstances, but Professor Catherine
[01:24.680 --> 01:31.160]  Yen of the Ludwig Institute in Graz, Austria, which specializes in traumatology research,
[01:31.160 --> 01:36.000]  said one possible theory was that Hampton was carried to the 17th floor and thrown to
[01:36.000 --> 01:37.080]  his death.
[01:37.080 --> 01:43.920]  Professor Yen used new forensic techniques to detect internal bruising caused by strangulation
[01:43.920 --> 01:46.520]  that would not be visible to the naked eye.
[01:46.520 --> 01:52.960]  She said, in my opinion, it does not look like suicide.
[01:52.960 --> 01:59.520]  During the 2004 Valerie Plame affair, Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald famously declared
[01:59.520 --> 02:02.400]  there is a cloud over the Vice President.
[02:02.400 --> 02:07.000]  Last week's release of an FBI interview summary of Dick Cheney's answers in the criminal
[02:07.000 --> 02:11.280]  investigation underscores why Fitzgerald felt that way.
[02:11.280 --> 02:17.080]  On 72 occasions, Cheney equivocated to the FBI, saying he could not be certain in his
[02:17.080 --> 02:22.680]  answers to questions about masses large and small in the Plame controversy.
[02:22.680 --> 02:27.880]  Cheney's chief of staff, Scooter Libby, was indicted, tried and convicted for perjury,
[02:27.880 --> 02:30.800]  obstruction and lying to the FBI.
[02:30.800 --> 02:36.600]  Libby's own notes produced at his trial reflect that Cheney told him about the CIA employment
[02:36.600 --> 02:44.000]  of him Wilson's wife in June 2003, a month before Plame's CIA job became public knowledge.
[02:44.000 --> 02:48.360]  The Cheney interview summary was released Friday to the watchdog group Citizens for
[02:48.360 --> 02:53.360]  Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which sued to get the material under the Freedom
[02:53.360 --> 02:56.360]  of Information Act.
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[03:56.560 --> 03:58.400]  All right, bad boys, bad boys.
[03:58.400 --> 04:02.080]  What are you going to do when we come for you?
[04:02.080 --> 04:06.520]  Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Debra Stevens.
[04:06.520 --> 04:11.760]  We are going for the bad boys here on the Rule of Law.
[04:11.760 --> 04:15.240]  We got some big news for y'all tonight.
[04:15.240 --> 04:21.440]  Randy is ready to launch his mortgage analysis program,
[04:21.440 --> 04:22.600]  his company.
[04:22.600 --> 04:25.480]  We're going to be talking about that in a little while.
[04:25.480 --> 04:30.160]  But first, we are going to go to Mr. Eddie Craig, our co-host.
[04:30.160 --> 04:33.360]  He did make it safe back to Nacogdoches.
[04:33.360 --> 04:35.840]  Nacogdoches, I have a hard time pronouncing that one.
[04:35.840 --> 04:37.120]  Nacogdoches.
[04:37.120 --> 04:39.560]  But it was not without incident.
[04:39.560 --> 04:43.280]  So Eddie, why don't you tell us a story?
[04:43.280 --> 04:46.200]  All right, I was outside of Austin,
[04:46.200 --> 04:48.440]  passing through a little town called,
[04:48.440 --> 04:50.480]  I believe it's Rockdale.
[04:50.480 --> 04:54.240]  And I was in my car, and there was a car beside me,
[04:54.240 --> 04:55.440]  and there was a car behind me.
[04:55.440 --> 04:58.520]  Just as we were going past one of the local police officers
[04:58.520 --> 04:59.440]  there.
[04:59.440 --> 05:01.200]  Well, of course, he flips on his lights,
[05:01.200 --> 05:03.160]  and he turns around, and he gives chase.
[05:03.160 --> 05:06.080]  And all the cars line up behind me,
[05:06.080 --> 05:08.800]  and he wheeze in between them, and finally he gets up behind me
[05:08.800 --> 05:10.480]  and pulls me over.
[05:10.480 --> 05:12.760]  Now, I guess just because I was the guy in front,
[05:12.760 --> 05:15.600]  I'm automatically the guy that was speeding.
[05:15.600 --> 05:18.400]  But in any case, that's neither here nor there.
[05:18.400 --> 05:22.080]  I look for a public parking spot to pull into, and I pull in.
[05:22.080 --> 05:27.080]  And this officer, his name is Lightfoot.
[05:27.080 --> 05:29.960]  I would first off like to say, Officer Lightfoot,
[05:29.960 --> 05:32.560]  if you're listening, I do appreciate your courtesy.
[05:32.560 --> 05:35.640]  You are one of the professionals that I was speaking of.
[05:35.640 --> 05:38.840]  And I in no way have any bad thing
[05:38.840 --> 05:41.480]  to say about you during our encounter.
[05:41.480 --> 05:45.280]  In fact, as you'll hear in the audio here momentarily,
[05:45.280 --> 05:49.240]  if I get elected sheriff, I even offer the man a job,
[05:49.240 --> 05:52.400]  because he is truly one of the kinds that we actually
[05:52.400 --> 05:54.840]  need behind the badge.
[05:54.840 --> 05:58.640]  But anyway, they pull me over into a CarQuest parking lot.
[05:58.640 --> 06:01.640]  And shortly after I get in there, he gets out of his car,
[06:01.640 --> 06:03.640]  walks up to mine.
[06:03.640 --> 06:05.360]  I roll down my window, and he of course
[06:05.360 --> 06:07.400]  goes through the routine of I want your license
[06:07.400 --> 06:09.240]  and registration, please.
[06:09.240 --> 06:12.920]  And I said, well, my name is Eddie Craig.
[06:12.920 --> 06:14.280]  That's the only piece of information
[06:14.280 --> 06:15.880]  I'm going to supply to you.
[06:15.880 --> 06:18.000]  So if you want to write your ticket, write your ticket.
[06:18.000 --> 06:19.640]  But that's the only thing I'm going
[06:19.640 --> 06:21.560]  to deal with at the moment is my name.
[06:21.560 --> 06:23.560]  And the only other piece of information
[06:23.560 --> 06:26.520]  I'm required to give you is my address.
[06:26.520 --> 06:28.000]  So if you need that, let me know,
[06:28.000 --> 06:30.440]  and I'll be happy to give that to you as well.
[06:30.440 --> 06:33.400]  He just kind of stands there and he looks at me for a few seconds.
[06:33.400 --> 06:35.720]  And he says, I'll be right back.
[06:35.720 --> 06:37.040]  So he goes back to his car.
[06:37.040 --> 06:38.760]  He gets on his radio.
[06:38.760 --> 06:41.240]  Then he comes back up and he asked me again
[06:41.240 --> 06:43.000]  for name, address, and birthday.
[06:43.000 --> 06:45.360]  And I said, well, my name is Eddie Craig.
[06:45.360 --> 06:48.760]  Again, if you need my address, this is what it is.
[06:48.760 --> 06:50.640]  That's all the information I'm inclined
[06:50.640 --> 06:52.480]  to give you at this time.
[06:52.480 --> 06:54.600]  The reason I do it this way is because I gave out
[06:54.600 --> 06:56.920]  all of my traffic notices at the seminar
[06:56.920 --> 07:00.200]  and I had none to take with me.
[07:00.200 --> 07:02.360]  But in any case, I went through it with him.
[07:02.360 --> 07:05.640]  And just about that time, another young officer shows up.
[07:05.640 --> 07:08.520]  And they're standing there at the back of my car.
[07:08.520 --> 07:11.160]  He, Officer Lightfoot, and he is still on the radio
[07:11.160 --> 07:12.520]  and everything running.
[07:12.520 --> 07:15.720]  I gave him my expired Kansas driver's license
[07:15.720 --> 07:17.840]  because I used that for a picture ID.
[07:17.840 --> 07:19.760]  And he's sitting there and he keeps telling me
[07:19.760 --> 07:22.640]  that all he's going to do is just run it and write me
[07:22.640 --> 07:25.000]  a ticket.
[07:25.000 --> 07:27.040]  And I said, well, do whatever you got to do.
[07:27.040 --> 07:28.520]  That's not a problem.
[07:28.520 --> 07:30.880]  And then they come back and say that my driver's license
[07:30.880 --> 07:31.760]  is expired.
[07:31.760 --> 07:33.960]  And it's like, well, of course it's expired.
[07:33.960 --> 07:34.960]  Look on the front of it.
[07:34.960 --> 07:36.040]  It says 2004.
[07:36.040 --> 07:38.240]  I haven't had a license since 2004
[07:38.240 --> 07:39.800]  and I'm not getting another one.
[07:39.800 --> 07:41.760]  Well, you have to have a license.
[07:41.760 --> 07:44.040]  No, sorry, I don't.
[07:44.040 --> 07:46.440]  And if you intend to charge me with a license,
[07:46.440 --> 07:47.960]  then here's what we need to know.
[07:47.960 --> 07:51.600]  And I went through 521.021 and 002
[07:51.600 --> 07:53.400]  for the definition of driver's license
[07:53.400 --> 07:55.640]  and asked him exactly which one he intended to charge me
[07:55.640 --> 07:57.360]  for not having.
[07:57.360 --> 07:58.800]  This sort of took him aback.
[07:58.800 --> 08:00.320]  He didn't know how to answer that.
[08:00.320 --> 08:02.040]  He had three options to choose from
[08:02.040 --> 08:04.000]  and he didn't choose any of them.
[08:04.000 --> 08:06.800]  He just stuck with, you got to have a driver's license.
[08:06.800 --> 08:09.680]  And to his credit, he was extremely nice about it.
[08:09.680 --> 08:11.920]  Both of the officers were, in fact,
[08:11.920 --> 08:15.120]  so I have nothing bad for either of them.
[08:15.120 --> 08:17.800]  But like most, he simply just had not actually
[08:17.800 --> 08:21.160]  been given the actual statutes to read.
[08:21.160 --> 08:26.840]  Well, turns out the chief ordered him to arrest me
[08:26.840 --> 08:29.400]  and bring me down to the jail and book me.
[08:29.400 --> 08:31.920]  Well, we get down to the jail and this whole process
[08:31.920 --> 08:34.040]  takes all of 20 minutes.
[08:34.040 --> 08:36.960]  And wait, Eddie, what were the charges
[08:36.960 --> 08:38.760]  that they were arresting you for?
[08:38.760 --> 08:40.040]  No driver's license.
[08:40.040 --> 08:42.720]  Now, he wrote on the ticket, no driver's license,
[08:42.720 --> 08:45.280]  no proof of insurance, and no inspection.
[08:45.280 --> 08:47.040]  He didn't write me for no license plates,
[08:47.040 --> 08:49.280]  even though he was sitting there reading them several times
[08:49.280 --> 08:51.320]  and asking about them.
[08:51.320 --> 08:53.640]  He also didn't write me for no registration
[08:53.640 --> 08:55.360]  sticker in the window.
[08:55.360 --> 08:58.640]  Again, just no inspection, no insurance,
[08:58.640 --> 09:01.960]  and no driver's license.
[09:01.960 --> 09:04.320]  And as I said, I explained each of the sections to him.
[09:04.320 --> 09:06.640]  He didn't really know how to take it because he had never
[09:06.640 --> 09:09.240]  heard any of this before, obviously.
[09:09.240 --> 09:12.000]  And anyway, they went ahead and arrested me.
[09:12.000 --> 09:14.520]  Both of them still very courteous, very nice.
[09:14.520 --> 09:16.720]  I made them promise to leave my car where it was
[09:16.720 --> 09:18.560]  that I would be back for it.
[09:18.560 --> 09:20.360]  Sure enough, we get down to the jail.
[09:20.360 --> 09:21.400]  He takes me in.
[09:21.400 --> 09:24.400]  The entire booking process is typing my name and address
[09:24.400 --> 09:25.360]  into the computer.
[09:25.360 --> 09:26.520]  No printing, no nothing.
[09:26.520 --> 09:32.760]  We just go in and I post a $200 bond.
[09:32.760 --> 09:35.760]  I have to be back there on the 19th of this month, November
[09:35.760 --> 09:39.440]  19th, I go back for the pretrial, which I fully
[09:39.440 --> 09:42.360]  intend to have a whole bunch of paperwork there ahead of me
[09:42.360 --> 09:45.720]  before I even show up to see if I even have to show up.
[09:45.720 --> 09:47.640]  Now, Eddie, what is this pretrial for?
[09:47.640 --> 09:49.880]  For speeding, or for no driver's license,
[09:49.880 --> 09:51.240]  or for all of the above?
[09:51.240 --> 09:53.000]  He did not cite me for speeding.
[09:53.000 --> 09:54.280]  That was the other odd thing.
[09:54.280 --> 09:56.520]  He did not cite me for speeding at all,
[09:56.520 --> 09:59.080]  even though that's the reason he said he pulled me over.
[09:59.080 --> 10:01.520]  I went ahead and explained to him that there's
[10:01.520 --> 10:02.840]  no way I could be speeding.
[10:02.840 --> 10:04.880]  And if I went through the town to speed a sound,
[10:04.880 --> 10:05.960]  I couldn't be speeding.
[10:05.960 --> 10:09.640]  But that was also something he hadn't heard before.
[10:09.640 --> 10:12.440]  But in any case, the pretrial is the 19th.
[10:12.440 --> 10:16.120]  And I will take the paperwork we devised for the seminar,
[10:16.120 --> 10:17.720]  plus a couple of other additional ones
[10:17.720 --> 10:19.720]  I'm working on right now, which is the motion
[10:19.720 --> 10:22.800]  to show authority, where I am going to basically shove
[10:22.800 --> 10:26.800]  a red-hot poker into the ears of the prosecution,
[10:26.800 --> 10:29.280]  trying to make them prove they are who they say they are,
[10:29.280 --> 10:31.400]  and they have the authority to act.
[10:31.400 --> 10:34.400]  Now, all that came about to say this.
[10:34.400 --> 10:39.040]  Officer Lightfoot gladly, willingly accepted
[10:39.040 --> 10:40.480]  a copy of the seminar material.
[10:40.480 --> 10:43.240]  I gave him my own book from the seminar
[10:43.240 --> 10:47.160]  to let him take and to read at his leisure
[10:47.160 --> 10:50.080]  to learn the things that I was telling him.
[10:50.080 --> 10:51.160]  And he accepted it.
[10:51.160 --> 10:53.080]  And he promised to read it.
[10:53.080 --> 10:56.360]  And I've given Deborah the only sound recording that came out
[10:56.360 --> 10:57.880]  where anything was intelligible.
[10:57.880 --> 10:59.600]  There was too much road noise.
[10:59.600 --> 11:01.480]  The batteries in the recorder had somehow
[11:01.480 --> 11:03.320]  gotten much lower than they were the last time
[11:03.320 --> 11:05.720]  I looked at it before I took the trip to Austin.
[11:05.720 --> 11:08.000]  So this was the only recording I got.
[11:08.000 --> 11:10.200]  It's a little over three minutes long.
[11:10.200 --> 11:14.680]  And it's on the ride from the police station back to my car.
[11:14.680 --> 11:16.400]  Now, one of the things I don't understand
[11:16.400 --> 11:18.120]  about how they do this is they'll charge you
[11:18.120 --> 11:19.800]  with a crime of doing this, this, and this,
[11:19.800 --> 11:21.600]  but they're perfectly willing to take you right back
[11:21.600 --> 11:23.720]  to your car, put you back in it, and let you continue
[11:23.720 --> 11:25.160]  on down the road.
[11:25.160 --> 11:27.320]  Now, if what you're doing is such a heinous crime,
[11:27.320 --> 11:30.360]  why is that something that's allowed to occur
[11:30.360 --> 11:31.920]  is my first question.
[11:31.920 --> 11:33.680]  But that's one of the things about what
[11:33.680 --> 11:35.240]  we're trying to educate them on.
[11:35.240 --> 11:37.440]  So Deborah, if you would, go ahead and key this up.
[11:37.440 --> 11:39.920]  This is me riding in the backseat,
[11:39.920 --> 11:43.200]  talking with Officer Lightfoot through the center partition.
[11:43.200 --> 11:46.240]  And we're engaging in a very friendly conversation.
[11:46.240 --> 11:47.760]  All right, here we go.
[11:47.760 --> 11:49.000]  1917, Rockdale.
[11:49.000 --> 11:53.040]  I'm going to be 59 one time in Rockford Parkway.
[11:53.040 --> 11:54.720]  17, stand by real quick.
[11:54.720 --> 11:56.920]  And that ain't going to tickle me for no seat belt, are you?
[11:56.920 --> 12:03.120]  No, sir.
[12:03.120 --> 12:06.560]  We had a game warden in Nacogdoches.
[12:06.560 --> 12:07.040]  What's up?
[12:07.040 --> 12:08.720]  We've got to know just something now.
[12:08.720 --> 12:10.720]  It goes to November 19th, pre-trial.
[12:10.720 --> 12:11.200]  OK.
[12:11.200 --> 12:13.520]  We'll go ahead and send him official notice later.
[12:13.520 --> 12:14.600]  November 19th?
[12:14.600 --> 12:15.520]  OK.
[12:15.520 --> 12:16.440]  All right.
[12:16.440 --> 12:17.080]  Did you hear that?
[12:17.080 --> 12:17.960]  Yeah, I got it.
[12:17.960 --> 12:19.040]  All right.
[12:19.040 --> 12:21.160]  November 19th is pre-trial, but he
[12:21.160 --> 12:23.600]  will go ahead and send you official notification, too,
[12:23.600 --> 12:27.040]  sir, through the mail.
[12:27.040 --> 12:28.280]  Not just empty Rockdale.
[12:28.280 --> 12:30.280]  59 one time in Rockford Parkway.
[12:30.280 --> 12:31.240]  It's on white metal.
[12:40.200 --> 12:47.080]  And last night was actually, I'm working two hours in the middle.
[12:47.080 --> 12:51.720]  And it's right between criminal mission and the arrest.
[12:51.720 --> 12:57.000]  Last night, really, it was one knucklehead.
[12:57.000 --> 13:01.240]  I was by the other person that got arrested.
[13:01.240 --> 13:04.800]  Old timer, already a little too much, ran to another park.
[13:04.800 --> 13:06.800]  And so he went to jail to keep him going.
[13:06.800 --> 13:08.280]  Yeah.
[13:08.280 --> 13:09.280]  Right up that side.
[13:14.280 --> 13:15.640]  Well, that happens.
[13:15.640 --> 13:18.520]  I'm actually running for sheriff down there in Nacogdoches County
[13:18.520 --> 13:19.320]  right now.
[13:19.320 --> 13:19.920]  Really?
[13:19.920 --> 13:21.920]  Yep.
[13:21.920 --> 13:28.560]  Do you have a lot of candidates for it?
[13:28.560 --> 13:29.040]  No.
[13:29.040 --> 13:31.240]  The incumbent is going to try to stay there.
[13:31.240 --> 13:32.880]  Unfortunately, he's not a sheriff.
[13:32.880 --> 13:33.880]  He's a politician.
[13:33.880 --> 13:34.800]  And that's a problem.
[13:39.800 --> 13:42.040]  Well, that's the reason I'm running.
[13:45.040 --> 13:47.640]  Because I intend to change the par for the course.
[13:47.640 --> 13:54.080]  But I'll tell you one thing, if it is at all possible, and I do get in,
[13:54.080 --> 13:59.680]  I will make very certain that I send an invitation to you to switch jobs.
[13:59.680 --> 14:06.600]  Because you are the kind of officer that every police force needs,
[14:06.600 --> 14:09.520]  and it's meant to be a compliment.
[14:09.520 --> 14:13.320]  Because there aren't many these days.
[14:13.320 --> 14:18.160]  I mean, I appreciate that that means a lot to someone that I just arrested
[14:18.160 --> 14:19.840]  and gave citations to.
[14:19.840 --> 14:21.920]  I don't get a lot of compliments.
[14:21.920 --> 14:27.560]  Well, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, none of this is personal.
[14:27.560 --> 14:31.000]  This right here is something you've been taught to do.
[14:31.000 --> 14:34.560]  And I understand that, having been taught to do it myself.
[14:34.560 --> 14:38.960]  And I reckon, and again, not intending in any way for this to be bad,
[14:38.960 --> 14:43.680]  I just got tired of seeing things that I knew could not be right
[14:43.680 --> 14:46.440]  and wanted to find out where the authority for it came from.
[14:46.440 --> 14:52.000]  And I opened up a whole can of worms I had never considered finding, but did.
[14:52.000 --> 14:57.640]  And I want to write down, because I won't look it up.
[14:57.640 --> 15:02.920]  I'll either look it up and say, this is an overtime shoot.
[15:02.920 --> 15:04.360]  OK, Eddie.
[15:04.360 --> 15:06.680]  Yeah, now right there, the last thing he was saying
[15:06.680 --> 15:10.520]  was that all the stuff that I had spoken to him about, the code sections
[15:10.520 --> 15:13.400]  and everything else, that he was perfectly willing to write them down
[15:13.400 --> 15:14.520]  and look them up.
[15:14.520 --> 15:16.400]  And I told him, I says, well, I'll tell you what.
[15:16.400 --> 15:21.400]  When we get back to my car, I have all the code sections and references for you.
[15:21.400 --> 15:24.960]  I will give that to you straight out of our seminar material.
[15:24.960 --> 15:28.680]  But I do not want you to trust what's in that book.
[15:28.680 --> 15:31.400]  I want you to go look them up for yourself.
[15:31.400 --> 15:34.960]  But I want you to see if you can understand where I'm coming from.
[15:34.960 --> 15:37.120]  So you were able to give him the seminar book.
[15:37.120 --> 15:38.400]  He gladly accepted it.
[15:38.400 --> 15:41.640]  He even asked me twice and said, are you sure you want to give this to me?
[15:41.640 --> 15:44.000]  I said, if you're willing to take it and read it,
[15:44.000 --> 15:45.760]  I will more than happily give it to you.
[15:45.760 --> 15:47.960]  And he accepted it very willingly.
[15:47.960 --> 15:49.760]  That's wonderful.
[15:49.760 --> 15:52.040]  Now, the reason I wanted this tape played
[15:52.040 --> 15:54.760]  was because I want everybody out there to understand,
[15:54.760 --> 15:59.360]  these do not have to be tense, confrontational events.
[15:59.360 --> 16:00.720]  They don't have to be.
[16:00.720 --> 16:04.240]  A lot of these guys are people, just like you and me.
[16:04.240 --> 16:05.960]  They're just doing what they're taught.
[16:05.960 --> 16:08.200]  We don't have to meet them with a bad attitude,
[16:08.200 --> 16:10.480]  because that just puts them in one.
[16:10.480 --> 16:15.600]  So this was what I was saying at the seminar about be civil, be nice.
[16:15.600 --> 16:19.400]  Don't give them an opportunity to not be nice to you.
[16:19.400 --> 16:23.760]  And they will most days, and this guy had just finished working a double shift.
[16:23.760 --> 16:27.000]  If anything, he should have been in an irritated mood.
[16:27.000 --> 16:28.320]  But he wasn't.
[16:28.320 --> 16:30.720]  And he stayed professional through the whole thing.
[16:30.720 --> 16:33.080]  And they were going to tow your car and everything.
[16:33.080 --> 16:33.680]  Yeah.
[16:33.680 --> 16:35.320]  And you managed to talk him out of it.
[16:35.320 --> 16:36.800]  That's great.
[16:36.800 --> 16:38.400]  All right, listen, we'll be right back.
[16:38.400 --> 16:39.400]  We're coming up on break.
[16:39.400 --> 16:41.160]  This is a rule of law.
[16:41.160 --> 16:42.840]  We'll discuss this more on the other side,
[16:42.840 --> 16:47.400]  then Randy's going to talk about his mortgage analysis business
[16:47.400 --> 16:49.080]  that he's got set up.
[16:49.080 --> 16:52.760]  And we'll be taking your calls, 512-646-1984.
[16:52.760 --> 16:53.600]  We'll be right back.
[17:00.280 --> 17:02.720]  You feel tired when talking about important topics
[17:02.720 --> 17:03.960]  like money and politics?
[17:03.960 --> 17:04.440]  Sorry.
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[17:39.000 --> 17:43.240]  and watching educational documentaries without feeling tired or uninterested.
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[17:46.400 --> 17:51.280]  then you need to call 512-480-2503 or visit them
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[17:56.400 --> 17:58.240]  may include discernment and enlarged vocabulary
[17:58.240 --> 18:00.560]  and an overall increase in mental functioning.
[18:28.240 --> 18:53.200]  All right.
[18:53.200 --> 18:56.360]  They criticize us because we're too political.
[18:56.360 --> 18:59.440]  We talk too much political lyrics and ting.
[18:59.440 --> 19:01.920]  But them like, them love their slavery.
[19:01.920 --> 19:03.720]  They're not doing anything about it
[19:03.720 --> 19:06.080]  because they like to take a hand out from the government.
[19:06.080 --> 19:07.680]  Yeah. Yeah.
[19:07.680 --> 19:10.440]  So that's another fight we got to battle
[19:10.440 --> 19:12.800]  is people don't want to stand up against the government
[19:12.800 --> 19:13.960]  because you're taking a hand out from them.
[19:13.960 --> 19:16.760]  But at any rate, callers, if you'd like to call in
[19:16.760 --> 19:23.440]  and ask any questions about his incident, 512-646-1984,
[19:23.440 --> 19:24.960]  or if you have questions about other things,
[19:24.960 --> 19:26.560]  just open the phone lines.
[19:26.560 --> 19:28.560]  And I have a couple of questions for Eddie.
[19:28.560 --> 19:32.880]  OK, so they didn't charge you with speeding.
[19:32.880 --> 19:36.320]  What exactly did they cite you for
[19:36.320 --> 19:38.800]  that you have to come back on the 19th,
[19:38.800 --> 19:40.520]  for which you have to come back on the 19th?
[19:40.520 --> 19:43.160]  Well, like I say, he wrote three things on the ticket,
[19:43.160 --> 19:46.480]  no driver's license, no inspection, no insurance.
[19:46.480 --> 19:48.840]  But the only thing they bonded me on
[19:48.840 --> 19:51.120]  and the only thing they mentioned the entire time
[19:51.120 --> 19:53.360]  I was there was no driver's license.
[19:53.360 --> 19:56.040]  But that didn't, and that's on the site,
[19:56.040 --> 19:57.320]  that's on the citation?
[19:57.320 --> 19:59.440]  Yes.
[19:59.440 --> 20:00.880]  OK.
[20:00.880 --> 20:01.880]  So it was kind of grand.
[20:01.880 --> 20:03.320]  Did they say no driver's license
[20:03.320 --> 20:05.160]  or they said expired driver's license?
[20:05.160 --> 20:06.840]  They said no driver's license.
[20:06.840 --> 20:07.520]  Hmm.
[20:07.520 --> 20:10.160]  OK.
[20:10.160 --> 20:11.640]  But I have a concern about that.
[20:11.640 --> 20:14.800]  And I'm sure you explained to them
[20:14.800 --> 20:16.920]  that you were not operating in commerce.
[20:16.920 --> 20:18.120]  That's correct.
[20:18.120 --> 20:24.440]  You were obviously violating a Kansas law.
[20:24.440 --> 20:29.720]  But as far as I know, state of Texas police officers
[20:29.720 --> 20:34.720]  don't have authority to cite you for violating a Kansas law.
[20:34.720 --> 20:35.360]  Right.
[20:35.360 --> 20:37.640]  Which is why they cited me for no license
[20:37.640 --> 20:39.040]  rather than an expired license.
[20:39.040 --> 20:40.880]  Actually, you had a license.
[20:40.880 --> 20:42.240]  And they knew that.
[20:42.240 --> 20:43.760]  True enough.
[20:43.760 --> 20:45.920]  Well, I guess it really just depends.
[20:45.920 --> 20:46.560]  Yeah, but if he's.
[20:46.560 --> 20:49.640]  I had a physical license, but it expired for that purpose
[20:49.640 --> 20:50.640]  in 2004.
[20:50.640 --> 20:52.720]  Yeah, but you have to look at the statute
[20:52.720 --> 20:54.800]  regarding expired license.
[20:54.800 --> 20:58.520]  I'm sure it refers to a Texas license, not a license
[20:58.520 --> 21:01.080]  from somewhere else.
[21:01.080 --> 21:02.920]  I've been through that myself.
[21:02.920 --> 21:04.840]  And they can't charge you.
[21:04.840 --> 21:09.160]  You're driving on a Kansas license that's expired.
[21:09.160 --> 21:13.120]  And that's a crime in Kansas.
[21:13.120 --> 21:19.360]  Now, what they can do, if they catch you after 30 days driving
[21:19.360 --> 21:21.720]  on the same license, then they can cite you
[21:21.720 --> 21:24.400]  for violating a Texas law.
[21:24.400 --> 21:28.040]  Well, their perception of violating a Texas law.
[21:28.040 --> 21:30.920]  Their perception, yes.
[21:30.920 --> 21:32.560]  Even under their own code.
[21:32.560 --> 21:34.520]  OK, so this happened in Rockdale.
[21:34.520 --> 21:35.480]  Is that correct, Eddie?
[21:35.480 --> 21:36.120]  Yes.
[21:36.120 --> 21:41.720]  Which is about an hour and a half out of Austin on 79.
[21:41.720 --> 21:43.200]  That is the place.
[21:43.200 --> 21:45.000]  Very quaint little town, to say the least.
[21:45.000 --> 21:47.640]  And should we get people to go to your pre-trial hearing?
[21:47.640 --> 21:49.080]  Well, lots of people out there said
[21:49.080 --> 21:50.840]  they wanted to know if it ever occurred.
[21:50.840 --> 21:53.160]  So that's one of the reasons I'm making it well known.
[21:53.160 --> 21:55.360]  If everybody wants to come, please be my guest.
[21:55.360 --> 21:58.280]  Court watchers are always welcome.
[21:58.280 --> 22:00.160]  It's very hard to miss the little town.
[22:00.160 --> 22:03.000]  If you're traveling east on 79, you go right
[22:03.000 --> 22:04.960]  through the middle of it.
[22:04.960 --> 22:08.600]  Yes, and 79, Intersects I-35 up in Pflugerville.
[22:08.600 --> 22:11.600]  So those of y'all who live up in the Georgetown Pflugerville
[22:11.600 --> 22:14.200]  area, it's not as far away as if you
[22:14.200 --> 22:15.480]  had to come from South Austin.
[22:18.080 --> 22:20.360]  But yeah, it's going to be interesting.
[22:20.360 --> 22:23.960]  I'm quite sure this small town magistrate has never
[22:23.960 --> 22:26.680]  seen the likes of what's being in this courtroom.
[22:26.680 --> 22:29.240]  And what time is the hearing, Eddie?
[22:29.240 --> 22:31.920]  Well, it's probably going to be typical 9 AM.
[22:31.920 --> 22:33.600]  Now, is this another one of those deals
[22:33.600 --> 22:35.560]  where they said appear on or before,
[22:35.560 --> 22:37.520]  or did they actually give you a date?
[22:37.520 --> 22:40.080]  They appear on or before, and they did not
[22:40.080 --> 22:42.400]  give me a date to appear until after I was already
[22:42.400 --> 22:45.240]  back outside getting into the police car with Officer
[22:45.240 --> 22:46.720]  Lightfoot to head back to my car.
[22:46.720 --> 22:51.200]  That's what the stopping was when they said hold.
[22:51.200 --> 22:53.120]  And just before we took off, right at the point
[22:53.120 --> 22:54.720]  where I was saying I was about to talk
[22:54.720 --> 22:57.880]  about the game warden who liked to write people tickets,
[22:57.880 --> 23:00.840]  the other officer that was with him previously at my stop
[23:00.840 --> 23:02.640]  came out and let him know that the judge had
[23:02.640 --> 23:04.440]  set the date on the 19th.
[23:04.440 --> 23:07.200]  OK, so they did actually set a date.
[23:07.200 --> 23:08.880]  Yes, now the magistrate was in there
[23:08.880 --> 23:10.840]  when I went in and paid the bond.
[23:10.840 --> 23:12.920]  And as Randy heard on the phone, they
[23:12.920 --> 23:14.920]  were telling me they had up to 48 hours
[23:14.920 --> 23:16.200]  to take me to a magistrate.
[23:16.200 --> 23:20.480]  But I was very insistent that no, you have up to 48 hours
[23:20.480 --> 23:22.960]  if a magistrate cannot be located.
[23:22.960 --> 23:25.240]  But you must act with all due diligence
[23:25.240 --> 23:28.760]  to get me before a magistrate before 48 hours expires.
[23:28.760 --> 23:30.240]  No, I've got 48 hours.
[23:30.240 --> 23:31.280]  No.
[23:31.280 --> 23:34.360]  If you do that now, then we're going to have other issues.
[23:34.360 --> 23:35.800]  So do that at your risk.
[23:35.800 --> 23:40.000]  But he was very nice, very congenial fellow.
[23:40.000 --> 23:42.440]  I have absolutely nothing bad to say about the man.
[23:42.440 --> 23:44.720]  And like I said, he is the kind of officer
[23:44.720 --> 23:47.840]  that you actually want to encounter if you do.
[23:47.840 --> 23:50.560]  In the front of my document, you remember the little preface
[23:50.560 --> 23:53.440]  I give where I talk about the peace officer versus the law
[23:53.440 --> 23:54.920]  enforcement officer.
[23:54.920 --> 23:56.760]  This dude is a peace officer.
[23:56.760 --> 23:58.080]  No question about it.
[23:58.080 --> 24:00.040]  He is a peace officer.
[24:00.040 --> 24:03.080]  And Officer Goodrich, the other young man with him,
[24:03.080 --> 24:07.680]  also seemed to be on the side of being the good peace officer.
[24:07.680 --> 24:09.400]  And pray for these guys.
[24:09.400 --> 24:11.440]  Keep them safe because these are the guys
[24:11.440 --> 24:13.720]  we want on our streets, not a lot of the other ones
[24:13.720 --> 24:16.960]  we run into, like the ones at the restaurant
[24:16.960 --> 24:20.000]  when we went out to eat that refused to even talk
[24:20.000 --> 24:22.800]  about the information in the book, much less learning.
[24:22.800 --> 24:25.640]  Yeah, we think one of them was the Officer Ben,
[24:25.640 --> 24:29.800]  the infamous Officer Ben that called into our show.
[24:29.800 --> 24:31.480]  All right, well, should we take a caller?
[24:31.480 --> 24:33.600]  We've got Kerry from California.
[24:33.600 --> 24:34.400]  Sure, thanks.
[24:34.400 --> 24:38.040]  Kerry, do you have a question for Eddie?
[24:38.040 --> 24:40.600]  I have a question that's kind of not related to this at all.
[24:40.600 --> 24:43.520]  It has to do with water law in California.
[24:43.520 --> 24:45.400]  OK, well, Kerry, just hold on one moment
[24:45.400 --> 24:47.440]  then because Randy has another announcement
[24:47.440 --> 24:49.080]  to make if we don't have a question for Eddie
[24:49.080 --> 24:50.440]  and his incident, so just hold on.
[24:50.440 --> 24:51.000]  OK.
[24:51.000 --> 24:54.120]  OK, all right, so Randy, do you have anything else
[24:54.120 --> 24:57.040]  to say about Eddie's incident?
[24:57.040 --> 25:00.880]  Yeah, I was listening on the phone when it was occurring.
[25:00.880 --> 25:03.040]  And it was interesting.
[25:03.040 --> 25:06.120]  Now, that's the first time I got to listen and not
[25:06.120 --> 25:07.560]  be arrested myself.
[25:07.560 --> 25:10.040]  Ha ha ha ha.
[25:10.040 --> 25:11.040]  It was a nice chance.
[25:11.040 --> 25:13.240]  But you were probably getting a great kick out of you.
[25:13.240 --> 25:15.560]  Oh, yeah.
[25:15.560 --> 25:18.320]  But he was probably smirking to himself about, yeah,
[25:18.320 --> 25:19.200]  what he just said.
[25:19.200 --> 25:21.040]  They're about to club him to death right now.
[25:21.040 --> 25:22.640]  I can hear that.
[25:22.640 --> 25:27.120]  Yeah, I told him that I had goofed up on my phone
[25:27.120 --> 25:28.960]  and it wasn't actually recording.
[25:28.960 --> 25:30.200]  I had to hit another button.
[25:30.200 --> 25:30.960]  But I got it.
[25:30.960 --> 25:33.040]  And I just wanted to make sure it was working
[25:33.040 --> 25:35.280]  so that I could pick it up when they clubbed you
[25:35.280 --> 25:36.720]  into unconsciousness.
[25:36.720 --> 25:38.280]  Oh, boy.
[25:38.280 --> 25:41.800]  OK, well, callers, if you'd like to call in and talk to Eddie
[25:41.800 --> 25:44.920]  about his incident, 512-646-1984.
[25:44.920 --> 25:47.400]  We've got Kerry waiting in the wings.
[25:47.400 --> 25:50.280]  Before we go to break, we've got about three and a half minutes
[25:50.280 --> 25:51.480]  before we go to break.
[25:51.480 --> 25:54.080]  Randy is ready to make an announcement.
[25:54.080 --> 25:57.720]  Randy is ready to launch his website
[25:57.720 --> 26:01.080]  for his new business that actually we're all
[26:01.080 --> 26:03.400]  going to be participating in here, which
[26:03.400 --> 26:05.920]  has to do with the forensic mortgage analysis
[26:05.920 --> 26:08.640]  and lawsuits going after these credit card
[26:08.640 --> 26:10.480]  companies and mortgage companies.
[26:10.480 --> 26:12.720]  So Randy, why don't you tell us about that
[26:12.720 --> 26:15.720]  and give us all the website.
[26:15.720 --> 26:22.080]  OK, the website is forensicfraudfinder.com.
[26:22.080 --> 26:25.480]  And you can go on the site.
[26:25.480 --> 26:30.240]  And I have all of the primary documents
[26:30.240 --> 26:35.960]  that I need to evaluate the mortgage on the site
[26:35.960 --> 26:40.920]  as interactive documents, where you can click on a document.
[26:40.920 --> 26:44.240]  There are four primary documents we need to look at.
[26:44.240 --> 26:49.680]  Good faith estimate, a truth in lending statement,
[26:49.680 --> 26:54.640]  a loan application, and the HUD-1 statement.
[26:54.640 --> 26:57.240]  Now, the HUD-1 statement, they just
[26:57.240 --> 26:59.760]  download and fill it out on their own leisure
[26:59.760 --> 27:01.560]  and email it back to you, right, Randy?
[27:01.560 --> 27:03.640]  Yeah, all four of them.
[27:03.640 --> 27:07.120]  The reason I put them on there as forms,
[27:07.120 --> 27:09.880]  so you can look at that form or call that form up
[27:09.880 --> 27:10.560]  and just print it.
[27:10.560 --> 27:14.240]  And down at the bottom, it has an icon to print.
[27:14.240 --> 27:17.720]  Just print one out and then look through your documents
[27:17.720 --> 27:19.520]  and find the one that matches it.
[27:19.520 --> 27:22.000]  Now, Randy, instead of having someone print it out
[27:22.000 --> 27:25.240]  and fill it out by hand, can they just download the form
[27:25.240 --> 27:28.000]  and then type in the information in their computer
[27:28.000 --> 27:29.240]  and email it back to you, so they
[27:29.240 --> 27:31.360]  don't have to scan the document after they print it
[27:31.360 --> 27:32.040]  and send it back to you?
[27:32.040 --> 27:33.040]  You don't have to do it.
[27:33.040 --> 27:39.160]  Actually, you can fill it in right online as it sits right
[27:39.160 --> 27:41.320]  now.
[27:41.320 --> 27:43.960]  Or you can download the document and open it
[27:43.960 --> 27:48.320]  on your own computer and fill it out on your computer.
[27:48.320 --> 27:52.480]  But in either case, if you fill it out, most likely,
[27:52.480 --> 27:55.560]  the first time you try to fill one out,
[27:55.560 --> 27:59.160]  if there will be things you won't recognize or won't
[27:59.160 --> 28:02.440]  understand, then you can just go to the bottom
[28:02.440 --> 28:05.200]  and there's a print icon.
[28:05.200 --> 28:09.160]  You hit that print icon and it will ask
[28:09.160 --> 28:10.480]  to print it to your printer.
[28:10.480 --> 28:12.280]  If you don't want to print it, just cancel.
[28:12.280 --> 28:15.320]  And then it will ask you to download it to your hard drive.
[28:15.320 --> 28:19.040]  Now, if you download the form right off the bat,
[28:19.040 --> 28:21.680]  then you can just fill it out at your own leisure
[28:21.680 --> 28:23.280]  on your own computer and you don't even
[28:23.280 --> 28:25.000]  have to worry about printing it, right?
[28:25.000 --> 28:28.200]  You can just download it, fill it out at your own time,
[28:28.200 --> 28:30.760]  at your own pace, and then just email it back to the people,
[28:30.760 --> 28:31.760]  back to you, right?
[28:31.760 --> 28:35.360]  You can open it in Acrobat because these
[28:35.360 --> 28:36.400]  are long and complex times.
[28:36.400 --> 28:38.960]  And you can fill it out in Acrobat too.
[28:38.960 --> 28:39.480]  Right.
[28:39.480 --> 28:41.520]  Yeah, so that's a real good way.
[28:41.520 --> 28:43.600]  I've dealt with situations like this before
[28:43.600 --> 28:46.080]  and it's real convenient to be able to just download
[28:46.080 --> 28:48.960]  that form, fill it, and then just have it
[28:48.960 --> 28:51.000]  on your own computer, then you can fill it out
[28:51.000 --> 28:53.560]  on your own computer at your own leisure.
[28:53.560 --> 28:55.160]  Because if it's a real long form,
[28:55.160 --> 28:57.800]  you don't necessarily want to be filling it out on the website
[28:57.800 --> 29:00.640]  because then you'd have to go back and deal with it again.
[29:00.640 --> 29:02.120]  So this way, if you just download it,
[29:02.120 --> 29:04.720]  put it on your own computer, fill it out at your own leisure,
[29:04.720 --> 29:07.840]  take as long as you need to, and then just email it back
[29:07.840 --> 29:09.640]  to Randy when you're done.
[29:09.640 --> 29:13.920]  Yes, and these are the primary documents
[29:13.920 --> 29:16.920]  that give the basic information.
[29:16.920 --> 29:22.280]  The other thing that we need are certain notices.
[29:22.280 --> 29:24.240]  There are notices they're supposed to send you,
[29:24.240 --> 29:28.920]  and then there are other things that the loan companies are
[29:28.920 --> 29:29.840]  supposed to do.
[29:29.840 --> 29:34.320]  Some of the things will have you checking the court record
[29:34.320 --> 29:36.800]  and such and see what they filed.
[29:36.800 --> 29:40.320]  But with this, we can pretty well determine
[29:40.320 --> 29:43.200]  what they've done wrong when and where.
[29:43.200 --> 29:45.400]  And when we get back, I'll kind of explain
[29:45.400 --> 29:46.520]  what we're able to do with it.
[29:46.520 --> 29:50.400]  ForensicFraudFinder.com?
[29:50.400 --> 29:50.880]  Yes.
[29:50.880 --> 29:52.560]  OK, all right, we'll be right back.
[29:52.560 --> 29:53.920]  And Randy, we'll finish explaining about this,
[29:53.920 --> 29:56.520]  and then we'll go to Carrie and then Charlie.
[29:56.520 --> 29:57.240]  We'll be right back.
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[31:00.760 --> 31:28.760]  Yeah, I got a warrant, and I'm going to solve them to the end.
[31:28.760 --> 31:32.760]  Well, I need a prosecutor to come and help me.
[31:32.760 --> 31:34.760]  Prosecute them wicked leaders.
[31:34.760 --> 31:36.760]  You see, they're my murderers, liars.
[31:36.760 --> 31:37.760]  Them tell me.
[31:37.760 --> 31:38.760]  Them are liars.
[31:38.760 --> 31:39.760]  They tell six stories.
[31:39.760 --> 31:40.760]  Will they believe me?
[31:40.760 --> 31:41.760]  Say, what them tell me?
[31:41.760 --> 31:44.760]  3% of Americans vote for me.
[31:44.760 --> 31:47.760]  So how the hell do you get the presidency?
[31:47.760 --> 31:49.760]  That's why me have a warrant for him.
[31:49.760 --> 31:51.760]  Everybody listen carefully.
[31:51.760 --> 31:54.760]  OK, citizen's arrest.
[31:54.760 --> 31:56.760]  Hope it doesn't get to that point,
[31:56.760 --> 31:59.760]  but you know, if they don't stop pushing,
[31:59.760 --> 32:02.760]  that's the way it's going to go.
[32:02.760 --> 32:05.760]  OK, so Randy, please continue.
[32:05.760 --> 32:06.760]  OK.
[32:06.760 --> 32:14.760]  Well, what we can do with it is if someone is in foreclosure,
[32:14.760 --> 32:18.760]  if they're going to foreclose the next day,
[32:18.760 --> 32:23.760]  the only thing this applies to is residential mortgages.
[32:23.760 --> 32:26.760]  Commercial are a totally different thing.
[32:26.760 --> 32:30.760]  But the first thing we can do, and the reason for the analysis,
[32:30.760 --> 32:35.760]  if we see where they have violated any Truth in Lending Act
[32:35.760 --> 32:37.760]  or Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act,
[32:37.760 --> 32:43.760]  or there's a number of different controlling statutes,
[32:43.760 --> 32:46.760]  if they violated any of those,
[32:46.760 --> 32:50.760]  and certain ones of those violations,
[32:50.760 --> 32:54.760]  especially the ones that go to notice,
[32:54.760 --> 32:57.760]  can give you grounds for rescission.
[32:57.760 --> 33:00.760]  You can rescind the whole thing.
[33:00.760 --> 33:08.760]  Or if we find evidence of fraud, then you can sue them.
[33:08.760 --> 33:13.760]  But in doing the analysis where we get indication,
[33:13.760 --> 33:16.760]  if it appears as though from the analysis
[33:16.760 --> 33:22.760]  that they have charged you interest that wasn't disclosed
[33:22.760 --> 33:29.760]  or charged you fines in setting up the loan that weren't authorized,
[33:29.760 --> 33:31.760]  that's fraud.
[33:31.760 --> 33:34.760]  That's fraud on its face, and we can sue them.
[33:34.760 --> 33:38.760]  So we'll get hard evidence of fraud.
[33:38.760 --> 33:41.760]  We send them what's called a respite letter,
[33:41.760 --> 33:47.760]  the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act request.
[33:47.760 --> 33:55.760]  And whatever's going on in foreclosure or collection processes, stop.
[33:55.760 --> 34:01.760]  If they're going to repossess the next, foreclose the next day, it stops.
[34:01.760 --> 34:05.760]  And nothing happens until they answer the respite letter.
[34:05.760 --> 34:09.760]  And in looking at the respite letters,
[34:09.760 --> 34:14.760]  most of these mortgage companies, when they answer the respite letter,
[34:14.760 --> 34:22.760]  they pretend that you sent them a request for modification.
[34:22.760 --> 34:27.760]  And they respond as if you asked for a request for modification.
[34:27.760 --> 34:29.760]  Don't answer the respite letter.
[34:29.760 --> 34:32.760]  They do not want to answer the respite letter,
[34:32.760 --> 34:37.760]  because the respite letter will reveal stuff they don't want you to know.
[34:37.760 --> 34:39.760]  So they do a little song and dance,
[34:39.760 --> 34:43.760]  and we're preparing a routine to go after them.
[34:43.760 --> 34:47.760]  Instead of complaining that they didn't answer the respite letter,
[34:47.760 --> 34:51.760]  we land on them like a ton of bricks.
[34:51.760 --> 34:59.760]  So we have a lot of tools that we can use to give them,
[34:59.760 --> 35:06.760]  give the mortgage company reason to deal very positively with you.
[35:06.760 --> 35:11.760]  You know, people might think, well, these people I worked with,
[35:11.760 --> 35:15.760]  they were real nice, and I don't think they tried to rob me.
[35:15.760 --> 35:20.760]  Well, something happened in the mid-'80s
[35:20.760 --> 35:25.760]  that put the people who were actually writing the loans
[35:25.760 --> 35:29.760]  in a position where they thought they were doing the right thing.
[35:29.760 --> 35:35.760]  In the mid-'80s, there were four different laws that were passed,
[35:35.760 --> 35:39.760]  and they were primarily for the purpose of making it
[35:39.760 --> 35:44.760]  so that every person could buy a home.
[35:44.760 --> 35:48.760]  That was the purported reason,
[35:48.760 --> 35:53.760]  that people who ordinarily wouldn't be able to afford a home
[35:53.760 --> 35:59.760]  because of these new laws and procedures made it so that they could buy a home.
[35:59.760 --> 36:04.760]  And it was just such a wonderful thing that everybody could get their own home.
[36:04.760 --> 36:11.760]  What it turned into instead was a vehicle for enslavement.
[36:11.760 --> 36:14.760]  And for robbing people's property.
[36:14.760 --> 36:23.760]  Well, it made it so that people who ordinarily couldn't afford a home could get into one.
[36:23.760 --> 36:26.760]  But in the process of doing that,
[36:26.760 --> 36:32.760]  they got people into mortgages that they absolutely could not afford.
[36:32.760 --> 36:39.760]  So what they wound up doing was you have this mortgage company sitting here in the middle.
[36:39.760 --> 36:46.760]  They get a loan from a large bank, and Julie gets a six- to nine-month loan,
[36:46.760 --> 36:50.760]  and they convert that loan into 20- and 30-year mortgages.
[36:50.760 --> 36:52.760]  They've got to pay this money back.
[36:52.760 --> 36:54.760]  So they have no intention of holding onto it.
[36:54.760 --> 37:00.760]  When they get it, they get, say, a $100,000 note on a house,
[37:00.760 --> 37:07.760]  and the note at maturity will return $220,000.
[37:07.760 --> 37:12.760]  So they go to this servicing pool or this investor and say,
[37:12.760 --> 37:18.760]  hey, I got this $100,000 note, and when it matures, it'll produce $220,000.
[37:18.760 --> 37:21.760]  I'll sell it to you for $170,000.
[37:21.760 --> 37:28.760]  They sell it to the pool, get their money, pay off the bank they got the money from.
[37:28.760 --> 37:30.760]  They got their dollars.
[37:30.760 --> 37:34.760]  Now they're the servicer for the loan.
[37:34.760 --> 37:40.760]  All of the fines and fees collected by the servicer, the servicer gets to keep.
[37:40.760 --> 37:49.760]  So we have the servicer in a position to where he makes the loan and makes a profit,
[37:49.760 --> 37:51.760]  gets his profit on the front end.
[37:51.760 --> 37:54.760]  Now he services the loan.
[37:54.760 --> 38:01.760]  If you fail, if you don't pay on time, if he winds up having to foreclose,
[38:01.760 --> 38:04.760]  he makes money on the foreclosure.
[38:04.760 --> 38:08.760]  And what happened in the passage of these four laws,
[38:08.760 --> 38:13.760]  instead of it making it so that the poor could afford homes,
[38:13.760 --> 38:16.760]  they made it so no one could.
[38:16.760 --> 38:19.760]  They unleashed the bankers on us.
[38:19.760 --> 38:23.760]  Primarily the bankers weren't interested in making loans to poor people.
[38:23.760 --> 38:29.760]  They were interested in making loans to people who were not poor, who had money,
[38:29.760 --> 38:32.760]  and they wanted to get all of it.
[38:32.760 --> 38:38.760]  So instead of providing good prime loans to people who qualified for it,
[38:38.760 --> 38:45.760]  they qualified people who should have gotten prime loans for high-risk loans
[38:45.760 --> 38:51.760]  where they got them into houses they could not afford
[38:51.760 --> 38:55.760]  and told them, oh, don't worry about it, yeah, this looks kind of high,
[38:55.760 --> 39:01.760]  but the way property is increasing in four or five years,
[39:01.760 --> 39:05.760]  you'll be able to refinance this for next to nothing.
[39:05.760 --> 39:10.760]  You'll be able to take all of the increase in property value, turn it into equity,
[39:10.760 --> 39:16.760]  and now instead of coming in with 10 grand, you got the property increase is 200 grand,
[39:16.760 --> 39:20.760]  you put the 200 grand in there, you get a real cheap loan.
[39:20.760 --> 39:28.760]  So they got people to speculate on the houses they lived in, and that's a really bad idea.
[39:28.760 --> 39:31.760]  It's a bad idea for the people who are buying the houses,
[39:31.760 --> 39:37.760]  but it's a really great idea for the banks because it was a setup for a scam
[39:37.760 --> 39:41.760]  for the banks to just steal everyone's property.
[39:41.760 --> 39:42.760]  It's perfect.
[39:42.760 --> 39:46.760]  The banks love to make loans to people who can't afford to pay them back
[39:46.760 --> 39:51.760]  because it means free real estate for the bank within a short period of time.
[39:51.760 --> 39:54.760]  They get the properties literally for free.
[39:54.760 --> 39:57.760]  So banks love to make loans to people who can't afford it
[39:57.760 --> 39:59.760]  because it means free property for the bank.
[39:59.760 --> 40:02.760]  Yeah, and it gets worse.
[40:02.760 --> 40:05.760]  The mortgage companies sitting in the middle,
[40:05.760 --> 40:10.760]  they make the loan, get their profit on the front end from the investor.
[40:10.760 --> 40:14.760]  They sell the loan to the investor.
[40:14.760 --> 40:22.760]  Well, most mortgages are good mortgages, especially in the baby boomer era.
[40:22.760 --> 40:24.760]  The house I own, I pay for it.
[40:24.760 --> 40:26.760]  It's done.
[40:26.760 --> 40:31.760]  And we have a lot of people who have paid 10, 20 years on a mortgage,
[40:31.760 --> 40:34.760]  and now they want to upgrade to a nicer place.
[40:34.760 --> 40:37.760]  So they sell that one, take all the money they get out of it,
[40:37.760 --> 40:40.760]  use it as down payment, drop it in another one.
[40:40.760 --> 40:48.760]  So they're into a loan that they've got 50, 60, 80 percent equity in.
[40:48.760 --> 40:50.760]  Good prime loan.
[40:50.760 --> 40:54.760]  Problem for the banker, not much profit.
[40:54.760 --> 40:58.760]  Lower interest rate, it's financing a lower amount of money.
[40:58.760 --> 40:59.760]  Profit's not there.
[40:59.760 --> 41:02.760]  Yeah, but again, the good thing for the banker is that,
[41:02.760 --> 41:05.760]  well, if it turns out to be a bad loan, they get the property.
[41:05.760 --> 41:07.760]  Well, that's where I'm going to.
[41:07.760 --> 41:12.760]  They write a lot of these good loans that are no-brainers,
[41:12.760 --> 41:14.760]  but they're not as profitable.
[41:14.760 --> 41:16.760]  And they sell all of these loans to an investor.
[41:16.760 --> 41:22.760]  Well, the investor expects a certain amount of failure, always.
[41:22.760 --> 41:23.760]  And they're writing all these good loans.
[41:23.760 --> 41:27.760]  They say, well, you know, all these are pretty good.
[41:27.760 --> 41:33.760]  We could seed that thing with some good high-profit loans.
[41:33.760 --> 41:39.760]  So they write loans to people who should never have been given them.
[41:39.760 --> 41:41.760]  Now, when you go to a banker and he doesn't give you a loan,
[41:41.760 --> 41:45.760]  he's not necessarily being mean to you.
[41:45.760 --> 41:46.760]  He's a professional.
[41:46.760 --> 41:47.760]  They know their business.
[41:47.760 --> 41:53.760]  And for the last 200 years, we've been developing restrictions on the banks
[41:53.760 --> 42:00.760]  and lending institutions to protect the people who were economically unsophisticated.
[42:00.760 --> 42:02.760]  Literally, we protect them from themselves.
[42:02.760 --> 42:05.760]  Well, in the mid-'80s and early-'90s,
[42:05.760 --> 42:09.760]  they released these protections and unleashed the rules on us.
[42:09.760 --> 42:14.760]  Well, all you have to do is just call up Acorn to come do a sit-in at the bank,
[42:14.760 --> 42:16.760]  then you'll get your loan.
[42:16.760 --> 42:18.760]  Yeah, well, they were part of it.
[42:18.760 --> 42:24.760]  But how it wound up is you have the mortgage company standing in the middle,
[42:24.760 --> 42:25.760]  defrauding both sides.
[42:25.760 --> 42:27.760]  Oh, yeah.
[42:27.760 --> 42:31.760]  So what we're going to do is take them to account.
[42:31.760 --> 42:34.760]  If we can find fraud in the loan,
[42:34.760 --> 42:42.760]  the first thing we want to do is know every entity that has owned the mortgage.
[42:42.760 --> 42:49.760]  And this is how they actually owned the promise to pay.
[42:49.760 --> 42:52.760]  In a mortgage, there are two things.
[42:52.760 --> 42:54.760]  Different places call them by different names.
[42:54.760 --> 42:58.760]  But one is a lien against the property.
[42:58.760 --> 43:01.760]  The other is a promise to pay.
[43:01.760 --> 43:08.760]  The lien against the property is there to secure the promise to pay.
[43:08.760 --> 43:15.760]  Well, we want to know every entity that has held the promise to pay.
[43:15.760 --> 43:22.760]  What they do with these notes is they sell them to a company that buys new notes.
[43:22.760 --> 43:29.760]  Well, they get them at a discount because you don't know what's good, what's not good.
[43:29.760 --> 43:32.760]  And they'll hold them a couple of years.
[43:32.760 --> 43:33.760]  Okay, wait a minute.
[43:33.760 --> 43:34.760]  Hold on, Randy.
[43:34.760 --> 43:35.760]  Hold on, Randy.
[43:35.760 --> 43:36.760]  Just a second.
[43:36.760 --> 43:37.760]  I've got time to prove up.
[43:37.760 --> 43:40.760]  And then they'll sell it to somebody else once they show the book.
[43:40.760 --> 43:43.760]  Okay, Randy, give out your website again.
[43:43.760 --> 43:46.760]  Forensicfraudfinder.com.
[43:46.760 --> 43:49.760]  Okay, Forensicfraudfinder.com.
[43:49.760 --> 43:55.760]  For $500 you get a mortgage analysis, a forensic mortgage analysis by Randy.
[43:55.760 --> 43:58.760]  We'll be right back on the other side.
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[44:54.760 --> 45:13.760]  Okay, we're going to go to Carrie from California. Just one second.
[45:13.760 --> 45:15.760]  Randy wanted to finish his sentence here.
[45:15.760 --> 45:24.760]  You can find out more about the forensic mortgage analysis at ForensicFraudFinder.com
[45:24.760 --> 45:29.760]  and if you are having trouble with your mortgage or if you're not having trouble with your mortgage,
[45:29.760 --> 45:38.760]  please consider having a forensic analysis done by Randy because a portion of the fee will go to support
[45:38.760 --> 45:43.760]  rule of law radio networks who can expand our programming, put on more shows
[45:43.760 --> 45:48.760]  so that I can hire and train more producers and upgrade our infrastructure, et cetera, et cetera.
[45:48.760 --> 45:52.760]  So please consider using our service.
[45:52.760 --> 45:57.760]  And one thing about that, if I don't find more fraud, then the cost of the analysis,
[45:57.760 --> 46:00.760]  the return on the cost of the analysis.
[46:00.760 --> 46:06.760]  But what we're setting up is not just, there's a lot of companies out there doing analysis,
[46:06.760 --> 46:14.760]  doing forensic analysis, but they give you this notebook back telling you all of the things
[46:14.760 --> 46:18.760]  that the mortgage company's done wrong.
[46:18.760 --> 46:24.760]  And generally people get that and they say, oh, well, gee whiz, what now?
[46:24.760 --> 46:28.760]  The point of what we're doing here is the what now?
[46:28.760 --> 46:33.760]  And the point of all that stuff I was telling you, we send the respite letter first
[46:33.760 --> 46:38.760]  and the primary thing we want to know is who have you sold that note to?
[46:38.760 --> 46:47.760]  Because we're fixing to sue every one of them for unjust enrichment through a fraudulent contract,
[46:47.760 --> 46:52.760]  entered into without full disclosure.
[46:52.760 --> 46:57.760]  And when we sue the pool, the pool's going to come back to the mortgage company and say,
[46:57.760 --> 47:00.760]  yo, Bubba, what is going on?
[47:00.760 --> 47:03.760]  I bought this security from you.
[47:03.760 --> 47:06.760]  Now I'm being sued for fraud.
[47:06.760 --> 47:08.760]  You want to explain this?
[47:08.760 --> 47:15.760]  This will give the mortgage company reason to want to come talk to us and make this thing go away.
[47:15.760 --> 47:19.760]  So anyway, we will not just provide the analysis.
[47:19.760 --> 47:22.760]  That's a minor thing.
[47:22.760 --> 47:24.760]  That's just the first step.
[47:24.760 --> 47:28.760]  After the analysis, we'll provide you with remedy.
[47:28.760 --> 47:31.760]  So the site's a little clunky yet.
[47:31.760 --> 47:32.760]  I just got it put up.
[47:32.760 --> 47:34.760]  I'll get it more sophisticated later.
[47:34.760 --> 47:40.760]  If you go on the site, there's kind of a treatment of the mortgage industry on the front.
[47:40.760 --> 47:46.760]  If you go to the documents that we will need, you can click on each one of those documents
[47:46.760 --> 47:47.760]  and it'll bring up the form.
[47:47.760 --> 47:52.760]  At the bottom of each one, you can click print and save.
[47:52.760 --> 47:55.760]  The print button will save it to your hard drive.
[47:55.760 --> 48:01.760]  And you can either print it out or just cancel print and then it'll save to your hard drive
[48:01.760 --> 48:04.760]  and you can fill those out, email them to me.
[48:04.760 --> 48:12.760]  And even if you're not behind on your mortgage, good chance you're paying a whole lot more than you should be.
[48:12.760 --> 48:18.760]  I ran one that was $113,000 mortgage, guaranteed 6%.
[48:18.760 --> 48:21.760]  They were actually charging him 6.5.
[48:21.760 --> 48:32.760]  I ran the difference in what they would pay with that half a percent, $44,000 on a $113,000 note you would pay extra.
[48:32.760 --> 48:33.760]  Wow.
[48:33.760 --> 48:36.760]  These are the kinds of things we're finding.
[48:36.760 --> 48:41.760]  With a $44,000 overpayment, we will kick their behinds away from Sunday.
[48:41.760 --> 48:42.760]  All right.
[48:42.760 --> 48:43.760]  Well, are you ready to go to callers?
[48:43.760 --> 48:47.760]  We've got Carrie, a first-time caller who's been waiting for a half an hour.
[48:47.760 --> 48:49.760]  Okay, here we go.
[48:49.760 --> 48:51.760]  Carrie, thanks for calling in.
[48:51.760 --> 48:53.760]  What's on your mind tonight?
[48:53.760 --> 48:58.760]  I'm an activist and I'm an assistant organizer to SoCal Martial Law Alert.
[48:58.760 --> 49:06.760]  And in the month of September, there were 35 water main breaks in Los Angeles alone, which had me looking into,
[49:06.760 --> 49:17.760]  I've been researching water law, and I found that California and the Feds somehow have dual sovereignty over the water.
[49:17.760 --> 49:29.760]  And I wanted some help in researching how to sort out the water law in California because I actually –
[49:29.760 --> 49:40.760]  I'm beginning to question if California even officially got the land from the Feds because most of the land in the state is federal.
[49:40.760 --> 49:41.760]  Okay.
[49:41.760 --> 49:48.760]  This is something that I've been researching quite a bit, and you definitely want to do some FOIAs
[49:48.760 --> 49:55.760]  and some open records requests on this matter because somehow I doubt that there's dual jurisdiction.
[49:55.760 --> 50:03.760]  Generally, the way that it works is that the state governments are completely sovereign
[50:03.760 --> 50:09.760]  and have complete and total jurisdiction over every square inch of land inside the state
[50:09.760 --> 50:17.760]  unless a particular piece of property has been formally ceded to the federal government,
[50:17.760 --> 50:26.760]  in which case there has to be a deed of session, which you would find at the State Archives Library in California
[50:26.760 --> 50:28.760]  or the Secretary of State's records.
[50:28.760 --> 50:33.760]  Usually it's part of the Secretary of State's records at the State Archives Library.
[50:33.760 --> 50:39.760]  And then you also do a FOIA to the GSA, the General Services Administration of the federal government,
[50:39.760 --> 50:46.760]  to procure the notice of acceptance, which is the notice of acceptance of formal documents on the federal side
[50:46.760 --> 50:52.760]  showing that they accept formal jurisdiction, federal jurisdiction, over the piece of property.
[50:52.760 --> 50:57.760]  And it's generally a specific piece of property with a plat map and everything.
[50:57.760 --> 51:03.760]  And so the notion that the federal government would have any kind of jurisdiction over waterways at all
[51:03.760 --> 51:07.760]  does not jive with that concept and with that practice.
[51:07.760 --> 51:12.760]  I mean, the deeds of session have to be signed by the governor of the state.
[51:12.760 --> 51:19.760]  And so you may want to check into the State Archives Library and get a list of all the properties
[51:19.760 --> 51:23.760]  that have been ceded to the federal government and get all the deeds of session
[51:23.760 --> 51:29.760]  and then FOIA the GSA to get the notices of acceptance to match it up on the other side.
[51:29.760 --> 51:31.760]  Wait, there's something else here.
[51:31.760 --> 51:34.760]  Well, there may be something else, but that is a very important matter,
[51:34.760 --> 51:41.760]  to find out exactly what properties have been ceded to the federal government.
[51:41.760 --> 51:44.760]  That is an important matter, but there's something else.
[51:44.760 --> 51:56.760]  If the federal government owns property in California, that does not give the federal government jurisdiction.
[51:56.760 --> 51:59.760]  That's exactly the point that I've been trying to make this whole time.
[51:59.760 --> 52:05.760]  They can lease property, and also I found out, Randy, they can't even own property.
[52:05.760 --> 52:11.760]  The federal government is not even allowed to own any property unless it's been formally ceded to them.
[52:11.760 --> 52:14.760]  They can only lease property.
[52:14.760 --> 52:21.760]  So if they claim to own it without having the deed of session over that property,
[52:21.760 --> 52:24.760]  then they have illegal ownership over that.
[52:24.760 --> 52:28.760]  They can't even own any property unless it's been ceded to them by the governor.
[52:28.760 --> 52:30.760]  Okay.
[52:30.760 --> 52:34.760]  I fully acknowledge I'm still doing the beginning parts of the research,
[52:34.760 --> 52:40.760]  but there's been a lot of stuff about sovereign immunity that if the federal government wanted to start a federal project,
[52:40.760 --> 52:45.760]  they could basically take whatever water they wanted, and nobody could contest them.
[52:45.760 --> 52:48.760]  No, there has to be a deed of session.
[52:48.760 --> 52:56.760]  There has to be a deed of session over the specific piece of property and a doubt that waterways would be involved.
[52:56.760 --> 53:00.760]  No, you're into something a lot more complex.
[53:00.760 --> 53:10.760]  You're into watershed where the federal government has provided the state with funds to build watersheds.
[53:10.760 --> 53:19.760]  So aside from sovereign immunity, they have contractual authority.
[53:19.760 --> 53:22.760]  They owned it. They bought it.
[53:22.760 --> 53:29.760]  And then they helped build the aqueducts and the watershed infrastructure.
[53:29.760 --> 53:31.760]  So they have an interest in it.
[53:31.760 --> 53:37.760]  This may not go so much to the sovereign authority of the federal government as it goes to contracts.
[53:37.760 --> 53:43.760]  Well, the way that I've understood that those kind of contracts work, Randy, is that the federal government still doesn't own it.
[53:43.760 --> 53:47.760]  They literally cannot own it unless it's been ceded to them.
[53:47.760 --> 53:56.760]  The way that I've seen how these contracts work is that the federal government offers the state money to build these kinds of infrastructures.
[53:56.760 --> 54:06.760]  In return, the state government has to meet certain regulatory standards by the federal government, but the federal government still doesn't own it.
[54:06.760 --> 54:13.760]  They just have to do certain things, like when the federal government offers money to the state for highway funding,
[54:13.760 --> 54:19.760]  but on the condition that they have a 21-age drinking requirement.
[54:19.760 --> 54:22.760]  You can't drink or buy alcohol until you're 21.
[54:22.760 --> 54:28.760]  So it's not like the federal government actually owns the roadways in any way, shape, or fashion.
[54:28.760 --> 54:33.760]  They give the money in a contract to the state for the roads,
[54:33.760 --> 54:39.760]  but then the state has to do other certain things in order to comply with the contract.
[54:39.760 --> 54:45.760]  But generally, ownership is not part of it.
[54:45.760 --> 54:49.760]  Okay. I've got some research to do.
[54:49.760 --> 54:56.760]  You need to look up the Deeds of Session, and you need to look up the contract regarding any kind of infrastructure
[54:56.760 --> 55:09.760]  or laws that were passed by the state legislature to see what kind of contract the state of California had entered into with the federal government.
[55:09.760 --> 55:14.760]  Okay. And if I were hunting for contracts, that would be under legislation,
[55:14.760 --> 55:18.760]  or is that something that I would also have to do an FOIA request for?
[55:18.760 --> 55:22.760]  That would be, it would most likely be coming down from state legislation.
[55:22.760 --> 55:23.760]  Okay.
[55:23.760 --> 55:34.760]  You know, like in Texas, they passed a law to accept the funding and to set the drinking age at 21.
[55:34.760 --> 55:43.760]  Okay. So state legislature. Okay. All right. Thank you.
[55:43.760 --> 55:46.760]  Eddie, do you have any other comments on this?
[55:46.760 --> 55:49.760]  No. Not at all. Y'all got it covered.
[55:49.760 --> 55:57.760]  Okay. Very good. Okay. Then let's go now to Charlie from Missouri.
[55:57.760 --> 56:00.760]  Charlie, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[56:00.760 --> 56:05.760]  Thanks for taking my call. I just had a couple of brief questions.
[56:05.760 --> 56:14.760]  I'm supposed to appear in this municipal court, and one of the things that I did is I asked for oath of office for everybody,
[56:14.760 --> 56:21.760]  and the prosecutor told me nobody had one, and he alluded that he didn't have one,
[56:21.760 --> 56:23.760]  and then he's done some crazy stuff.
[56:23.760 --> 56:30.760]  So I requested an open record for his bar number and his bond information,
[56:30.760 --> 56:36.760]  and one of the things that kind of threw me off is when I, on my request,
[56:36.760 --> 56:40.760]  they sent back that there's no such thing on file.
[56:40.760 --> 56:44.760]  Charlie, can you speak up or get closer to the telephone or something?
[56:44.760 --> 56:50.760]  Sure. Hang on one sec. I was down.
[56:50.760 --> 56:54.760]  One of the things that I'm getting ready to go to court, one of the things that – can you hear me any better now?
[56:54.760 --> 56:58.760]  Yeah. And try not to use a speakerphone, please.
[56:58.760 --> 56:59.760]  No, I'm not using –
[56:59.760 --> 57:03.760]  Okay. Okay. Go ahead.
[57:03.760 --> 57:04.760]  I'm getting ready to go to court.
[57:04.760 --> 57:09.760]  One of the things that I was asking for was the oath of office for the judge and the prosecutor and everything.
[57:09.760 --> 57:14.760]  The prosecutor told me nobody had any – nobody had oath of office here.
[57:14.760 --> 57:22.760]  And so I was taken aback that not even the prosecutor – the prosecutor said he didn't have one.
[57:22.760 --> 57:27.760]  So I sent in an open record request for his bar number and his bond,
[57:27.760 --> 57:35.760]  and they came back and told me that they didn't have anything – they didn't have any of that on public record.
[57:35.760 --> 57:40.760]  You guys know anything about that? I'm just curious.
[57:40.760 --> 57:47.760]  Well, as far as I know, every public official in every state is required to have an oath,
[57:47.760 --> 57:51.760]  but your state constitution will tell you for sure one way or the other.
[57:51.760 --> 57:58.760]  If the state constitution says an official position requires an oath, it requires an oath.
[57:58.760 --> 58:05.760]  Yeah, yeah. I've got that in there. My real immediate question – we're going to break here?
[58:05.760 --> 58:06.760]  Yeah.
[58:06.760 --> 58:07.760]  Yeah, we're at the top of the hour break.
[58:07.760 --> 58:11.760]  Charlie, just hang on the line and we'll finish your call on the other side.
[58:11.760 --> 58:12.760]  Sure.
[58:12.760 --> 58:14.760]  Okay. All right. Very good.
[58:14.760 --> 58:24.760]  All right. Callers, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984 to ask Randy or Eddie or myself a question.
[58:24.760 --> 58:28.760]  Talk about traffic, talk about mortgage issues or other issues you may have.
[58:28.760 --> 58:55.760]  We'll be right back after the top of the hour news.
[58:58.760 --> 59:25.760]  Okay.
[59:25.760 --> 59:42.760]  Okay.
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[01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:58.760]  Newly released FBI data offer evidence of the broad scope and complexity of the nation's
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[01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:21.760]  in March. The list is said to contain over 1 million entries. Fewer than 5% of those
[01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:27.760]  listed are US citizens or permanent residents. This information came in answers from FBI
[01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:31.760]  Director Robert Mueller to Senate Judiciary Committee members' questions.
[01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:37.760]  Senator Russell Feingold, who has been concerned over some of the FBI's relatively new investigative
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[01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:49.760]  information that a person or group was engaged in wrongdoing before it could open a preliminary
[01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:57.760]  investigation. Under current practice, no such information is needed.
[01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:02.760]  Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Friday she found it hard to believe nobody in the
[01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:08.760]  Pakistan government knew where al-Qaeda leaders were. Clinton was in Pakistan in an effort
[01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:12.760]  to strengthen US ties with the government and shore up the fight against militants.
[01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:18.760]  Asked why Pakistan was being seen as the center of al-Qaeda terrorism, Clinton said as far
[01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:23.760]  as she knew, the masterminds of the al-Qaeda terrorist syndicate had been living in Pakistan's
[01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:30.760]  safe havens since 2002. Clinton said, I find it hard to believe nobody in your government
[01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:35.760]  knows where they are or couldn't get them if they really wanted to. Clinton earlier
[01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:40.760]  had a library discussion with university students in Lahore acknowledging there was still a
[01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:47.760]  trust deficit toward the US in Pakistan because of past policies, but she said she was working
[01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:54.760]  to change that by reaching out to ordinary Pakistanis.
[01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:22.760]  Get your money, man.
[01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.760]  Get your money, man.
[01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:30.760]  This ain't no big deal.
[01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.760]  Six thousand, six and a half thousand, and you're out.
[01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:38.760]  Come on, man.
[01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:41.760]  Come get this people.
[01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:47.760]  Neba, neba, say cha da ba da mi yaad
[01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:54.760]  Neba, neba, say cha da ba da mi yaad
[01:03:57.760 --> 01:03:59.760]  I try to do the sweetest
[01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:01.760]  It's like a red packet
[01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:03.760]  It's dropping me brown plastic
[01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:05.760]  Neba, da, da, da, da, da
[01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:06.760]  I give them so much
[01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:09.760]  It's just chocolate in my teeth
[01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:11.760]  How could I give them to him
[01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:13.760]  No, we can't do back him
[01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:15.760]  Neba, don't argue with
[01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:17.760]  Tell me how did I do this thing
[01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:19.760]  Tell me, Neba, what happened
[01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:21.760]  Six hours to half an hour
[01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:23.760]  It's like a red packet
[01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:25.760]  It's dropping me brown plastic
[01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:27.760]  Neba, da, da, da, da
[01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:29.760]  It's dropping me brown plastic
[01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:31.760]  Neba, da, da, da, da
[01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:33.760]  I give them so much
[01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:35.760]  It's dropping me brown plastic
[01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:41.760]  Neba, neba, say cha da ba da mi yaad
[01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:47.760]  I gave him sponge and eat it
[01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:49.760]  Gave him bread and eat it
[01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:51.760]  Watch out things are tight guessing
[01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:53.760]  Wooden stuff from backing
[01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:55.760]  Passing, Neba, keep it
[01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:57.760]  Looking over, take it
[01:04:57.760 --> 01:04:59.760]  Your dog in mine, I a rat
[01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:01.760]  Backing, disturbing
[01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:03.760]  When he just starts sleeping
[01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:05.760]  Backing, disturbing
[01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:06.760]  Okay, we are back
[01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:09.760]  We are speaking with Charlie from Missouri
[01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:11.760]  We've also got Michael from California on the line
[01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:13.760]  Michael, just hold tight
[01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:14.760]  We'll get right to you
[01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:15.760]  Okay, Charlie, go ahead
[01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:16.760]  Please finish
[01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:17.760]  You were starting to tell us something
[01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:19.760]  When we went to break
[01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:21.760]  Yeah, thank you
[01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:24.760]  Yeah, I was prepared when they told me
[01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:26.760]  That nobody had an oath of office
[01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:27.760]  But I really didn't prepare myself
[01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:29.760]  For the fact that the prosecutor might not have one
[01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:31.760]  So when he had told me that too
[01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:34.760]  I put in an open records request for
[01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:36.760]  To the city that he's working for
[01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:38.760]  For his bond and his VAR number
[01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:40.760]  And they came back and they gave me the official document
[01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:42.760]  Saying that there was nothing
[01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:44.760]  That there was no public record of that information
[01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:50.760]  I was just wondering about your comments on that
[01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:52.760]  Well, as I said earlier
[01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:54.760]  If you've got the state constitution that says
[01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:57.760]  That's something that they are required to have
[01:05:57.760 --> 01:05:59.760]  And they do not
[01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:02.760]  The first thing you want to do is check your penal statutes
[01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:08.760]  For the crime of impersonating a public servant
[01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:10.760]  And you want to file charges against this guy
[01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:11.760]  For exactly that
[01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:13.760]  And anybody else in that courtroom
[01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:16.760]  That's supposed to have an oath and does not
[01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:19.760]  That would be the first recommendation
[01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:21.760]  Wouldn't they even if
[01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:22.760]  I can't believe he doesn't have an oath of office
[01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:24.760]  But wouldn't they have
[01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:26.760]  Wouldn't you think that they'd have the
[01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:27.760]  It would be a matter of public record
[01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:29.760]  Of his VAR number and his bond
[01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:31.760]  Wait a minute, Charlie
[01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:35.760]  You're making a basic error
[01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:38.760]  In an unstated presupposition
[01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:42.760]  That these people are rational and reasonable
[01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:45.760]  And not just absolutely out of their minds
[01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:47.760]  Yeah, not to mention law abiding
[01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:50.760]  Something we know they usually aren't
[01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:53.760]  Sometimes it's hard to accept that
[01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:56.760]  Things are really as screwed up as they really are
[01:06:56.760 --> 01:07:02.760]  I think for most of us, Randy
[01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:04.760]  The unstated presupposition is that
[01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:08.760]  They are completely irrational and illogical
[01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:11.760]  And do not know how to think properly
[01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:12.760]  And that they do everything wrong
[01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:13.760]  I think for most of us
[01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:16.760]  That is the presupposition
[01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:18.760]  And if they happen to do it right
[01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:19.760]  It's a miracle
[01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:22.760]  Well, those of us who've been in this a while
[01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:27.760]  But if Charlie's just beginning to dig into this stuff
[01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:30.760]  Don't be surprised if you find that
[01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:32.760]  Everything is screwed up
[01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:34.760]  Yeah, that's certainly what I assume
[01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:35.760]  I'm finding that out
[01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:36.760]  Let me ask you another question
[01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:38.760]  And put it another way
[01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:39.760]  No, limit's one
[01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:41.760]  No, I'm kidding
[01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:42.760]  Go ahead
[01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:44.760]  Assuming everything was proper and in order
[01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:46.760]  Wouldn't I be able to go down there
[01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:47.760]  And do a public records request
[01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:50.760]  And find his VAR number and his bond number
[01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:53.760]  Well, his VAR number should be listed by the state VAR
[01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:54.760]  No matter what
[01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:57.760]  That should be very easy to come by
[01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:00.760]  Now the bond, however, that's a whole other animal
[01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:01.760]  If he doesn't have that
[01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:04.760]  He's really up a creek, so to speak
[01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:05.760]  I thought so
[01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:07.760]  All right, I only got one more quick question
[01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:08.760]  I'd like to take some of the callers
[01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:09.760]  And move where you need to
[01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:10.760]  Probably going to
[01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:12.760]  I've got a good client for you, Randy, too
[01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:15.760]  By the way, for your mortgage stuff
[01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:18.760]  But, Eddie, for you
[01:08:18.760 --> 01:08:22.760]  I've heard some of your dissertations on the word person
[01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:23.760]  Several times
[01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:26.760]  And I've done extensive research here in Missouri
[01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:29.760]  I can't find the legal definition of person
[01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:33.760]  Being anything other than a living being here in Missouri
[01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:37.760]  I mean, did you get any place to notify
[01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:39.760]  Is that the term they use in the statute
[01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:44.760]  To describe the person to whom it applies?
[01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:46.760]  I don't have the information right in front of me
[01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:48.760]  I'm throwing this question out in the back of my mind
[01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:50.760]  But I did do a bunch of research
[01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:53.760]  They describe the person here
[01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:55.760]  In all the statutes in the Constitution
[01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:57.760]  As far as I can see in any legal definition
[01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:00.760]  The interpretation I get from person would be
[01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:03.760]  A living soul, a natural person
[01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:06.760]  Okay, well, if that's how they wish to define it
[01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:08.760]  Every state can do it their own way
[01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:10.760]  But if you look at the statute
[01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:14.760]  That will generally mean that that statute is using another term
[01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:17.760]  Say, for instance, driver instead of person
[01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:19.760]  Operator instead of person
[01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:22.760]  Or individual instead of person
[01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:27.760]  Because if they're attempting to write a law that violates a right
[01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:30.760]  By naming the person or the people directly
[01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:33.760]  As one susceptible to a law that would violate a right
[01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:36.760]  Then you can have that law declared unconstitutional on its face
[01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:41.760]  That's normally why the terms they use are something similar
[01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:44.760]  That we would associate with people
[01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:46.760]  But in reality it's not
[01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:50.760]  Yeah, and, Charlie, there's going to be different definitions
[01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:53.760]  For the same word from statute to statute
[01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:57.760]  And even from chapter to chapter within a single statute
[01:09:57.760 --> 01:09:59.760]  That also is very true
[01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:02.760]  One chapter may use the term person, meaning a corporation
[01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:06.760]  And another one may do it, meaning something else entirely
[01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:11.760]  Yeah, so you have to look at the definitions within each chapter even
[01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:13.760]  Yeah, I've noticed what you just said, Deborah
[01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:17.760]  There's not going to be a single overriding definition
[01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:22.760]  Of any particular word that's going to apply in every case, in every statute
[01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:26.760]  Right, unless, of course, now there should be
[01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:28.760]  Like here we've got our government code
[01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:32.760]  Our government code contains the general definition that is to be used
[01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:37.760]  If the word itself is not defined within the section of statute
[01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:43.760]  So if the word, if the particular statute, chapter, subsection, title, whatever
[01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:46.760]  Does not contain a definition for the term person
[01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:50.760]  Then the chapter 311 government code term applies
[01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:53.760]  Whatever definition is set there applies to every statute
[01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:56.760]  Unless the statute states otherwise
[01:10:56.760 --> 01:10:59.760]  So you may want to look and see if you can find a general statute
[01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:04.760]  If they are, in fact, varying the definition from code to code
[01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:06.760]  Great, I think they are
[01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:10.760]  But, all right, well, thanks for the information, guys
[01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:11.760]  Yes, sir
[01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:13.760]  I'll still be listening
[01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:15.760]  Okay, thanks, Charlie
[01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:17.760]  Goodbye
[01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:19.760]  Randy, let's see, how many more callers do we have?
[01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:22.760]  We've got Michael, John, and another person
[01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:25.760]  Okay, just sometime before we get out tonight
[01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:30.760]  I had something we wanted to introduce on the air regarding citizens' arrest in the courtroom
[01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:33.760]  Aha, we just played the song citizens' arrest
[01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:36.760]  So that's very appropriate
[01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:39.760]  All right, well, since we've got five minutes left of this segment
[01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:41.760]  Let's go on to the next caller
[01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:43.760]  All right, we've got Michael from California
[01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:45.760]  Michael, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:52.760]  Hello, I'm just trying to develop a footprint of how to go after this traffic that I just received
[01:11:52.760 --> 01:11:55.760]  I know traditionally you challenged jurisdiction
[01:11:55.760 --> 01:12:01.760]  And then after that, what's your next input?
[01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:05.760]  Is it just me or is he breaking out an awful lot?
[01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:07.760]  Hello?
[01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:10.760]  I can hear you. Can you hear me?
[01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:11.760]  I can hear you
[01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:14.760]  Can you repeat that? I was having trouble putting it all together
[01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:15.760]  Okay
[01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:16.760]  You're a little soft
[01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:22.760]  Okay, I just received a traffic ticket here in California
[01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:25.760]  And I've listened to you guys for a short period of time
[01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:27.760]  So I'm trying to learn exactly what you're doing
[01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:31.760]  But from what I understand, I'm trying to put together a footprint here
[01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:37.760]  Initially when you initiate this, you go after, you challenge the jurisdiction, correct?
[01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:38.760]  Correct
[01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:44.760]  But now the gentleman you need to be speaking to out there is a gentleman by the name of Kevin Michaels
[01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:46.760]  He is actually in California
[01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:52.760]  And he's got the California traffic statutes down as cold as I've got the Texas
[01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:55.760]  How do I get a hold of him?
[01:12:55.760 --> 01:13:00.760]  Well, he's on Skype and that's his user ID, Kevin Michaels
[01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:01.760]  Okay
[01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:03.760]  That would be the first thing I would try
[01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:09.760]  Just send him a contact notice and if he wants to talk, let him just give him a message saying you need to talk to him about traffic
[01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:11.760]  And if he wants to help you, he'll give you a holler
[01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:13.760]  Does he have a website or anything, Eddie?
[01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:15.760]  I don't think so
[01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:18.760]  I think we've had him on our show before, I think
[01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:23.760]  Yeah, matter of fact, he was on this past Friday with us for a while, Randy and I
[01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:28.760]  But now if you'll go ahead and send me a contact email with your return email address in it
[01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:30.760]  I will forward it to Kevin also
[01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:34.760]  And just give me a quick blurb about what the deal is and where you are
[01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:40.760]  And I'll let him get in touch with you or I'll tell him to get in touch with you if that's his inclination
[01:13:40.760 --> 01:13:42.760]  Sound fair?
[01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:43.760]  Fair enough
[01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:47.760]  How do we get any of the information from your seminars?
[01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:51.760]  Unfortunately, I'm not able to make it to your seminars
[01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:57.760]  We're going to be selling all the seminar materials, the video, the audio separately
[01:13:57.760 --> 01:14:01.760]  It's going to be the same audio, by the way, the exact same audio
[01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:07.760]  I'm going to professionally master the audio and then we're going to overlay the audio onto the video
[01:14:07.760 --> 01:14:11.760]  So that we don't have to rely on the video camera's audio and such
[01:14:11.760 --> 01:14:17.760]  So it's going to be the same audio, but the DVDs, I'm sure it will be more than one
[01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:20.760]  Because we're talking two days' worth of seminar here
[01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:26.760]  Audio CDs to play in your car and the seminar materials itself for $250
[01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:32.760]  And what we prefer to do is to just give people download links, you know, ISO files or NRG files
[01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:39.760]  Or however, you know, format like that so that you can burn your own DVDs and burn your own audio CDs
[01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:46.760]  Download the seminar materials so that we don't have to, you know, incur the additional expense to mail
[01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:50.760]  You know, to print up all the materials and burn the DVDs and mail them and everything
[01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:54.760]  If you do not have the ability, like if you don't have high speed Internet
[01:14:54.760 --> 01:15:01.760]  Or if you don't have the ability to burn DVDs and CDs and such like that, then we will mail you the DVDs and CDs
[01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:04.760]  And those should be ready in a few weeks
[01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:10.760]  I'm in the process right now of mastering the audio and then we'll be starting on the video
[01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:14.760]  Once we get all the rest of the video from our cameraman
[01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:16.760]  Great. All right guys, thanks a lot
[01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:22.760]  Okay, wonderful. Yeah, and the traffic code is pretty much the same from state to state
[01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:32.760]  There may be some differences, so this will be very helpful to people who, even people who don't live in the state of Texas
[01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:38.760]  Okay, we're going to go now to, we've got about a minute and a half before we cut to break
[01:15:38.760 --> 01:15:41.760]  We're going to go to John in Florida
[01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:44.760]  John, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:46.760]  Hey, good evening, guys
[01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:52.760]  This is the same one that was in, the same John from Florida was at the seminar a week back with you guys
[01:15:52.760 --> 01:15:54.760]  Oh, yeah. How you doing, John?
[01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:55.760]  Thanks for coming to the seminar
[01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:56.760]  Absolutely
[01:15:56.760 --> 01:15:59.760]  This is the guy with the muscles in places where we didn't have
[01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:03.760]  Yeah, he was our undercover
[01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:07.760]  Yeah, because that was the first thing I wanted to make clear, guys, and Eddie knows full well
[01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:13.760]  But I want to make sure you all know I was not the undercover cop in the ring
[01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:15.760]  Oh, not that we got that out of the way
[01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:17.760]  Yeah, then we're going to have a break soon
[01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:21.760]  There's a few things I wanted to get very, more clear on
[01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:26.760]  Eddie, you went over a lot of this in the seminar regarding once in court
[01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:30.760]  The different things that will either have been filed, like the motions
[01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:34.760]  Okay, wait a minute, hold on, John, we're about to go to break
[01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:39.760]  All right, can you stay till the other side of the break, John?
[01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:42.760]  All right, I'm going to hope that's a yes
[01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:43.760]  Okay, all right, very good
[01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:46.760]  All right, and then we'll take Daniel from Missouri, another first-time caller
[01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:49.760]  We got a lot of first-time callers tonight
[01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:52.760]  All right, callers, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984
[01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:58.760]  And we're also going to be talking to Eddie and Randy on the other side
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[01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:12.760]  All right, we are back
[01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:16.760]  We're speaking with John in Florida who came to the seminar
[01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:21.760]  John, thanks for coming to the seminar again, and please continue
[01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:25.760]  Okay, wanted to pick up where I left off on that
[01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:29.760]  And again, Eddie, to kind of go over some of the things that you were saying
[01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:32.760]  that either have been filed that you would then submit in court
[01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:34.760]  in front of and to the judge
[01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:37.760]  There are motions, which I have a pretty good understanding of,
[01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:40.760]  that's really you're just asking the court for permission
[01:18:40.760 --> 01:18:45.760]  for whatever it is that you're looking for, which might be dismissal with prejudice, for example
[01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:48.760]  Judicial notice, of course, criminal complaint
[01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:51.760]  And I think there's one of them that I'm not remembering right offhand
[01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:53.760]  What was the...
[01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:55.760]  The cross-complaint
[01:18:55.760 --> 01:18:56.760]  I'm sorry?
[01:18:56.760 --> 01:18:58.760]  The cross-complaint
[01:18:58.760 --> 01:19:00.760]  Okay, so maybe that must have been it
[01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:03.760]  I thought there was another one that...
[01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:06.760]  Something was started with an E, I forget exactly what
[01:19:06.760 --> 01:19:09.760]  Again, these are the things that you were going over in class
[01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:13.760]  Yeah, there's actually a couple more we're working on right now, John
[01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:17.760]  But generally, there was three we presented at the seminar, right, Deborah?
[01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:18.760]  Randy?
[01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:19.760]  Yes
[01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:22.760]  Yes, and that was...
[01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:24.760]  I had a motion to...
[01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:27.760]  A challenge to the jurisdiction
[01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:31.760]  concerning the improprieties on part of the police officer
[01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:34.760]  Primarily at the seminar
[01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:37.760]  We structured the documents for those people
[01:19:37.760 --> 01:19:41.760]  who get a citation and want to make it go away
[01:19:41.760 --> 01:19:47.760]  And unfortunately, the printer printed the wrong document on the cross-complaint
[01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:51.760]  It's basically the same as the original petition
[01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:53.760]  with a few differences
[01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:57.760]  And for the people who attended the seminar
[01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:01.760]  you will be getting download links for the cross-complaint
[01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:06.760]  Yes, we provided two
[01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:09.760]  One was the cross-complaint against the officer
[01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:15.760]  And that only included injunctive relief demanded from the court
[01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:18.760]  Yeah, remember when I was going over that section, John?
[01:20:18.760 --> 01:20:19.760]  Yeah, absolutely
[01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:20.760]  Okay, all right
[01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:23.760]  So when you request injunctive relief only
[01:20:23.760 --> 01:20:27.760]  there is no consideration of immunity, period
[01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:31.760]  So that's just to beat up the municipality
[01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:33.760]  and get them to want to make this go away
[01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:37.760]  Yeah, fortunately, the printer messed up by printing
[01:20:37.760 --> 01:20:42.760]  the inclusive document, not the smaller document
[01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:45.760]  So you basically have everything you already need
[01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:47.760]  for the counter-complaint
[01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:49.760]  Okay, and that's what I wasn't recalling
[01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:51.760]  It was some form of petition
[01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:53.760]  Eddie had mentioned a few times
[01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:57.760]  along with therapy judicial notice or criminal complaint
[01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:00.760]  Yeah, that's the one I'm working on right now
[01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:04.760]  which is where I demand the petition to show authority
[01:21:04.760 --> 01:21:06.760]  of the prosecuting attorney
[01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:08.760]  Okay, so petition
[01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:11.760]  So here's the thing
[01:21:11.760 --> 01:21:16.760]  You know, walking into an average court
[01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:18.760]  that I've been into regarding trafficking in Florida
[01:21:18.760 --> 01:21:20.760]  there is no prosecutor
[01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:24.760]  You're standing in front next to the copies at his podium
[01:21:24.760 --> 01:21:25.760]  You're at yours
[01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:28.760]  And the judge who...
[01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:31.760]  I'm almost sure it's not a judge
[01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:37.760]  Again, the same as when I did my trial for the initial trial
[01:21:37.760 --> 01:21:40.760]  to, you know, is it guilty or not guilty
[01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:42.760]  and then it'd be sent to trial
[01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:44.760]  When I asked if he was a judge or an administrator
[01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:45.760]  he wouldn't answer my question
[01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:47.760]  He just kept on repeating that he was a court officer
[01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:50.760]  and had everyone else in the bailiff coming at me
[01:21:50.760 --> 01:21:53.760]  telling me that he's a court officer, shut me up
[01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:55.760]  And then, so that was before
[01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:59.760]  and now again I found myself where this person
[01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:04.760]  is sitting up front basically conducting trial
[01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:06.760]  both prosecutor and judge
[01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:09.760]  as a title of court officer and then her name
[01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:12.760]  And I don't know if I'm...
[01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:16.760]  The first thing I should do is challenge the jurisdiction
[01:22:16.760 --> 01:22:19.760]  as far as being able to try the case
[01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:21.760]  Yes, you do
[01:22:21.760 --> 01:22:23.760]  You challenge everybody's jurisdiction
[01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:26.760]  that's refusing to tell you who they are
[01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:29.760]  Nobody has the right to try you
[01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:33.760]  without you knowing who it is that's doing it
[01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:37.760]  So once again, you want to write a demand that says
[01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:38.760]  Who are you?
[01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:40.760]  And that's what this petition for the bona fides is
[01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:43.760]  You can file this against the judge
[01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:45.760]  You can file it against the attorney
[01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:47.760]  And basically if they ignore it
[01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:51.760]  you file criminal charges against them as a matter of law
[01:22:51.760 --> 01:22:54.760]  And that's where I would have already prepared
[01:22:54.760 --> 01:22:56.760]  the criminal complaint right there
[01:22:56.760 --> 01:23:00.760]  Ignore it and I hand that to them as a complaint on the spot
[01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:01.760]  Correct
[01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:06.760]  Okay, so the things that we've gone over before
[01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:10.760]  where not only would I want to challenge the jurisdiction
[01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:13.760]  to try to hear the case
[01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:16.760]  but also because there's no prosecutor
[01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:19.760]  then before when you and I spoke about
[01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:21.760]  that they should show agency
[01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:24.760]  to see the prosecution for their position
[01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:27.760]  to represent the county or the state
[01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:30.760]  that's not an issue now because there is no prosecutor
[01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:32.760]  So how...
[01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:34.760]  Well, see, that's what we're doing
[01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:35.760]  That's what this petition does
[01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:37.760]  When we're asking for their bona fides
[01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:39.760]  that's exactly what we're doing
[01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:42.760]  is we're saying I don't believe you're who you say you are
[01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:45.760]  I don't believe you're acting with lawful authority
[01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:48.760]  And since that's the case, I'm here to tell you right now
[01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:49.760]  I'm not playing games
[01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:52.760]  I don't know who you are and where the authority comes from
[01:23:52.760 --> 01:23:54.760]  And as a matter of law, I have that right
[01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:58.760]  and this is what you filed this petition for
[01:23:58.760 --> 01:24:01.760]  As usual, if they're not going to obey the law
[01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:02.760]  they're not going to obey the law
[01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:04.760]  but you have made your record
[01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:06.760]  and you can now use that against them
[01:24:06.760 --> 01:24:09.760]  That's the whole point of this
[01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:11.760]  Right
[01:24:11.760 --> 01:24:14.760]  Okay, then again I'm just trying to wrap my mind around this
[01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:17.760]  in terms of how I would apply that to my court situation
[01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:20.760]  being that if there is no prosecutor to then challenge
[01:24:20.760 --> 01:24:21.760]  for them to tell me who they are
[01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:23.760]  I'm simply and only going to do this now
[01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:26.760]  with the person who's acting as a judge or magistrate
[01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:30.760]  Yeah, now is the police officer doing the prosecuting?
[01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:33.760]  That's unclear because I haven't been in a position
[01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:39.760]  to make that challenge as to who is supposed to be acting as a prosecutor
[01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:44.760]  Okay, have you looked in the statute to see who has authority to act as the prosecutor?
[01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:47.760]  And this is where I found myself stuck and I'm looking for clarification
[01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:50.760]  just as much as you can give me because I know I'm in a different state
[01:24:50.760 --> 01:24:55.760]  but I'm unclear at this point as to whether I'm being charged civilly or criminally
[01:24:55.760 --> 01:24:59.760]  The research I've done thus far brings me to believe it's civil
[01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:08.760]  That said, I'm going to find that then within the civil procedure by state
[01:25:08.760 --> 01:25:11.760]  not the statutes or am I wrong?
[01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:14.760]  Well, the first thing is when you go to court
[01:25:14.760 --> 01:25:17.760]  you have the right to demand to know the nature of the charge against you
[01:25:17.760 --> 01:25:19.760]  and they are obligated to tell you
[01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:21.760]  It's not something they can ignore
[01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:26.760]  The federal constitution says you have the right to know the nature of the charges against you
[01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:28.760]  It's not an option, it's a right
[01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:31.760]  If they refuse to provide you with that right
[01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:35.760]  then you file criminal charges and now you can order the whole case
[01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:38.760]  removed to federal court as a rights violation
[01:25:38.760 --> 01:25:43.760]  You can take it right out of their hands and take it straight to federal court
[01:25:43.760 --> 01:25:47.760]  But being that I'm going into the trial not already knowing this
[01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:49.760]  what I'd like to do is find out beforehand
[01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:51.760]  and when I first asked the clerk
[01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:53.760]  the clerk told me they can't tell me the information
[01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:56.760]  because then that would be giving me legal advice
[01:25:56.760 --> 01:25:59.760]  That's correct, the clerk cannot tell you
[01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:04.760]  but the prosecutor can and so can the judge
[01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:08.760]  But wouldn't that affect my strategy going in there as far as...
[01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:09.760]  Yes, it would
[01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:12.760]  because if you think they're charging you civilly
[01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:15.760]  and you go in prepared civilly
[01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:17.760]  and they actually charge you criminally
[01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:19.760]  that's a whole different set of rules
[01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:21.760]  a whole different method of evidence presentation
[01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:25.760]  the entire context changes
[01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:30.760]  That's why you're supposed to be able to know the nature of the charge
[01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:34.760]  so that you can prepare a proper defense
[01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:37.760]  So at this point before my trial, which is in a month
[01:26:37.760 --> 01:26:44.760]  who do I go to the county courthouse and demand this from?
[01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:47.760]  You should be able to go down there and ask any judge
[01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:48.760]  just at a friendly manner
[01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:52.760]  is a traffic ticket of this type a civil or criminal charge?
[01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:56.760]  The judge should be able to tell you
[01:26:56.760 --> 01:27:02.760]  Okay, for some reason I'm not able to get someone to do this for me
[01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:06.760]  What would be my next alternative?
[01:27:06.760 --> 01:27:10.760]  Well then you file a judicial notice and a petition
[01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:14.760]  for that information to be made available to you as a matter of law
[01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:16.760]  and if the judge still refuses
[01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:21.760]  then you take that petition and a writ of mandamus to the head judge of the court
[01:27:21.760 --> 01:27:26.760]  or to a higher court if that's all that's available in your county
[01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:33.760]  So basically you start walking all over the judge's scalp if the judge won't obey the law
[01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:36.760]  Okay, I understand
[01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:42.760]  So really what you may have made point to you at the seminar was
[01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:45.760]  if it comes down to trying to fight on the merits of the ticket
[01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:47.760]  then 99% of the time you're going to lose
[01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:53.760]  So what I'm going to win is along these lines of seeing if they're following the law
[01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:54.760]  which they're not
[01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:59.760]  I'm going to demand a dismissal with prejudice
[01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:03.760]  What if they just want to dismiss it and they won't grant me with prejudice?
[01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:05.760]  Well if they want to just dismiss it
[01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:07.760]  they're going to dismiss it with prejudice
[01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:09.760]  and you want to make sure they do because if they don't
[01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:14.760]  that means they can round you up and haul you back in for another round of this
[01:28:14.760 --> 01:28:19.760]  But in reality if you get a dismissal on a traffic case
[01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:24.760]  and the law is not this way in Texas but it is in most other states
[01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:33.760]  that if there is a dismissal they may not reinstate the case unless they bring it with new evidence
[01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:41.760]  So on traffic tickets it's unlikely they would ever consider bringing it back if they dismiss it
[01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:46.760]  On capital murder maybe or a lot more serious crimes maybe
[01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:51.760]  where perhaps they lost a witness or something or lost some evidence
[01:28:51.760 --> 01:28:53.760]  but on a traffic ticket too much money
[01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:59.760]  This is all about how can I steal money out of the person's pocket without it costing me anything
[01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:02.760]  Yeah that's what they're after if they can get it
[01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:03.760]  Okay
[01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:07.760]  It costs them way too much money to try to bring it up again
[01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:09.760]  It's not worth it
[01:29:09.760 --> 01:29:11.760]  Right
[01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:15.760]  Okay so what I'm going to start with then is Eddie and I had gone over on the phone before
[01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:20.760]  and the reason I got a continuance on this is only because I spoke to the clerk
[01:29:20.760 --> 01:29:26.760]  and I was trying to get an understanding of where I was before my date was right before the seminar
[01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:29.760]  It kind of took me to decide, one of the guys took me to decide
[01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:33.760]  listen if you'd just come in a little late go right to the schedule
[01:29:33.760 --> 01:29:35.760]  Right
[01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:40.760]  Wait hold on John, hold on the bumper music's playing we can't hear what you're saying
[01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:46.760]  Do you have anything else John or can we move on to Daniel?
[01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:48.760]  He just wants to clarify one last thing
[01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:53.760]  Okay he wants to clarify one last thing, okay stay on the line John and we'll be right back and then we'll go to Daniel
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[01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:13.760]  Okay we are speaking with John in Florida
[01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:17.760]  Okay John you wanted to clarify something, one last point?
[01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:23.760]  Yeah and again I gotta tell you I'm sorry because I kind of lost my train of thought here during the break
[01:31:23.760 --> 01:31:28.760]  I believe it
[01:31:28.760 --> 01:31:33.760]  John don't worry I can tell you from experience, that gets worse
[01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:36.760]  Unfortunately you're probably right
[01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:42.760]  I guess in the end, you know what listen I lost my entire train of thought
[01:31:42.760 --> 01:31:45.760]  So I'll be the next person to come on and catch you guys on the next call
[01:31:45.760 --> 01:31:51.760]  Okay if you remember what your other point was, just feel free to call back in, we've got another half hour
[01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:52.760]  Okay great thanks
[01:31:52.760 --> 01:31:53.760]  Okay great
[01:31:53.760 --> 01:31:56.760]  Okay we're going to go to Daniel in Missouri
[01:31:56.760 --> 01:32:04.760]  And then after Daniel, Eddie and Randy wanted to address forcing the bailiff's hand in the courtroom through a citizen's arrest
[01:32:04.760 --> 01:32:05.760]  So this ought to be good
[01:32:05.760 --> 01:32:10.760]  Alright but first Daniel, Daniel in Missouri, thanks for calling in, what's on your mind tonight?
[01:32:10.760 --> 01:32:15.760]  Hey greetings, I just want to make it quick so I don't drag things on because that sounds very interesting about
[01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:18.760]  Oh that's okay, can you speak up those some Daniel?
[01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:19.760]  Yeah, is this any better?
[01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:21.760]  Oh that's much better, thank you
[01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:26.760]  Okay well I'm just going to be quick about it, the federal before, just I don't know if you really caught this
[01:32:26.760 --> 01:32:30.760]  But the prosecuting attorney is required to give discovery in that case
[01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:35.760]  So if you're trying to get this information it's really simple, request for discovery on the record
[01:32:35.760 --> 01:32:45.760]  I just wanted to throw that in there for good measure, he's entitled to discovery
[01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:51.760]  The caller before asked about the, I'm in Missouri and he asked about the statutes with the word person
[01:32:51.760 --> 01:33:01.760]  And it is clearly in the statutes in the very first chapter, in the very second section of the statutes with the definitions
[01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:07.760]  And it states the word person may extend and be applied to bodies politic and corporate
[01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:11.760]  And to partnerships and other unincorporated associations
[01:33:11.760 --> 01:33:15.760]  So it's right in the very beginning of the statute, now getting on to my question
[01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:16.760]  Can you still hear me?
[01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:17.760]  Yes
[01:33:17.760 --> 01:33:24.760]  Okay, I've been blessed to be involved in a motion for contempt for not paying child support
[01:33:24.760 --> 01:33:33.760]  Is there any expertise in that area, can I talk about this or should I look somewhere else?
[01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:39.760]  I'm not the right guy, I know the guy who is, he's in Ken Magnuson
[01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:44.760]  But family law is different and contempt is difficult
[01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:53.760]  Because pretty well the courts have carte blanche to file contempt when or where they want to
[01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:58.760]  And this is used, oh wait a minute
[01:33:58.760 --> 01:34:15.760]  Mark Adams was just on talking about just exactly that in Florida where they're using contempt to collect child support
[01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:21.760]  And it was just struck down by the courts the third or fourth time, it's been done before
[01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:24.760]  We might want to get you in contact with Mark Adams
[01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:30.760]  You may also want to call into the Agenda 21 talk show, they've been talking about this on their show a lot too
[01:34:30.760 --> 01:34:31.760]  Which talk show?
[01:34:31.760 --> 01:34:36.760]  Agenda 21 talk, they're another show on the rule of law radio network
[01:34:36.760 --> 01:34:42.760]  Their show is on Tuesday nights from 8 to 10 Central and Friday nights from 6 to 8 Central
[01:34:42.760 --> 01:34:47.760]  And they've been talking about this exact issue quite a bit the last few shows
[01:34:47.760 --> 01:34:51.760]  I'm commenting on that just to maybe get some of your expertise
[01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:55.760]  It's an administrative order was filed with the court, I've never had a hearing
[01:34:55.760 --> 01:35:03.760]  And they're claiming I'm in contempt for an administrative order that was filed with the court
[01:35:03.760 --> 01:35:09.760]  You need to talk to Mark Adams, that's precisely what they were doing in Florida
[01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:12.760]  And the Supreme Court struck it down
[01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:14.760]  It is something that was struck down
[01:35:14.760 --> 01:35:19.760]  Yes, they knew it was wrong when they were doing it but they didn't care
[01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:20.760]  I see
[01:35:20.760 --> 01:35:25.760]  So this leaves you without remedy
[01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:31.760]  You might want to send me an email and I will forward it to Mark Adams
[01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:34.760]  And you might want to get in touch with him
[01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:38.760]  The email address, what's your email address?
[01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:42.760]  Randy at ruleoflawradio.com
[01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:43.760]  You got it
[01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:51.760]  Yes, and you may also want to check the blog that Mark Adams writes on
[01:35:51.760 --> 01:35:55.760]  He writes on several different websites, one of them is Op-Ed News
[01:35:55.760 --> 01:36:02.760]  So if you go to the Op-Ed News website and just do a search in their writers column for Mark Adams
[01:36:02.760 --> 01:36:05.760]  You'll find his email contact there, I don't have it in front of me
[01:36:05.760 --> 01:36:07.760]  Did you say all bad news?
[01:36:07.760 --> 01:36:14.760]  Op-Ed, O-P as in Pacific, Ed
[01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:17.760]  That kind of fits Mark though
[01:36:17.760 --> 01:36:21.760]  That's why you say look in the scumbag ex-attorney section
[01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:29.760]  Yes, go to Op-Ed News, like Opinion, Opinion editorial, opednews.com
[01:36:29.760 --> 01:36:32.760]  I got you
[01:36:32.760 --> 01:36:35.760]  I'm waiting to hear what you say about the bail off, have a great night folks
[01:36:35.760 --> 01:36:39.760]  Okay great, all right we've got Jesse from Texas, Jesse if you just hold tight
[01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:47.760]  These guys want to talk about forcing the bailiff's hand with a citizen's arrest
[01:36:47.760 --> 01:36:54.760]  Well this was one of those things, I had another one of those painful epiphanies while I was driving yesterday
[01:36:54.760 --> 01:37:01.760]  And everybody knows one of Randy's favorite topics is talking about turning to the bailiff and saying arrest that judge
[01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:05.760]  They're violating the law and of course the bailiff looks at him like he's got three heads
[01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:13.760]  Well my question to him yesterday on the way home was what is the duties required of the bailiff
[01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:21.760]  If the judge commits an act for which a citizen can make a citizen's arrest and you do so in open court
[01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:26.760]  Basically you stand up and you say judge pursuant to this article of the penal code
[01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:32.760]  You have violated section such and such which is a felony of the third degree
[01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:35.760]  I hereby place you under citizen's arrest
[01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:41.760]  Then you turn to the bailiff and say bailiff I hereby remand the prisoner to your custody
[01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:46.760]  Now what becomes the responsibility of the bailiff at this point
[01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:51.760]  Does he release a prisoner that was duly and fully lawfully arrested
[01:37:51.760 --> 01:37:57.760]  With his own decision making capabilities which will be slim to none usually
[01:37:57.760 --> 01:38:05.760]  Or does he do what he is now required to do and present the prisoner to a magistrate
[01:38:05.760 --> 01:38:11.760]  What we need to find is as much information on this possibility as possible
[01:38:11.760 --> 01:38:17.760]  And Randy said he thought it was an interesting idea so I'd like to hear what he's thought about on it
[01:38:17.760 --> 01:38:20.760]  If he's managed to have the time to do so
[01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:24.760]  Well I haven't had the time I wanted to spend on it
[01:38:24.760 --> 01:38:29.760]  But in thinking back through the law
[01:38:29.760 --> 01:38:33.760]  I can't find anything that directly addresses it
[01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:39.760]  Other than article 2.13 Texas Code of Criminal Procedure
[01:38:39.760 --> 01:38:51.760]  Which orders a police officer to arrest criminal wrongdoers that commit the crimes in their presence
[01:38:51.760 --> 01:38:59.760]  So that's what I've always invoked on the part of the bailiff is his duty to arrest
[01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:03.760]  And they never do of course
[01:39:03.760 --> 01:39:09.760]  But as far as me actually doing the arrest
[01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:19.760]  I do remember something in law that said the first requirement of making an arrest is the ability to accomplish the arrest
[01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:27.760]  So I'm concerned about what we would actually call arrest
[01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:32.760]  Is me just saying you're under arrest enough
[01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:36.760]  Well unless you wish to charge them with resisting arrest I would think so
[01:39:36.760 --> 01:39:40.760]  Well I'm not about to try to drag them off that bench
[01:39:40.760 --> 01:39:47.760]  Because that bailiff over there they think they're working for the judge
[01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:52.760]  And I remind them repeatedly that they're not working for the judge
[01:39:52.760 --> 01:39:55.760]  They're working for the sheriff
[01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:59.760]  And it is their duty to keep the peace in the courtroom
[01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:05.760]  There's no difference who breaches it but they've never bought that story
[01:40:05.760 --> 01:40:11.760]  And I've yet to talk a bailiff into dragging the judge down off the bench
[01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:15.760]  Although I suspect a few of them kind of grinned at the prospect
[01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:20.760]  None of them would actually go for it
[01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:27.760]  Well if I make sheriff of Nacogdoches County and they fail to drag that judge off the bench
[01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:31.760]  Then they're next and I'll make that point loud and clear
[01:40:31.760 --> 01:40:44.760]  Right when I ran in Wise County I told everybody that every attorney in the county will vote for me and not one will admit it
[01:40:44.760 --> 01:40:52.760]  The reason being if I make sheriff the attorneys in the county won't have to bow down to that judge anymore
[01:40:52.760 --> 01:40:56.760]  They'll actually be able to be good attorneys
[01:40:56.760 --> 01:41:06.760]  Because if that judge renders bogus rulings in retribution for an attorney doing something the judge doesn't like
[01:41:06.760 --> 01:41:10.760]  I'll arrest that judge myself
[01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:14.760]  So technically we can do that
[01:41:14.760 --> 01:41:23.760]  And if we started doing that I think it would change everything
[01:41:23.760 --> 01:41:28.760]  Well for the most part that statement you made about the ability to affect the arrest
[01:41:28.760 --> 01:41:36.760]  I have no doubt that we would have the ability to arrest most of these judges physically as well as any other way
[01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:46.760]  The problem is is that the one whose custody you're going to remand them in is going to do his dead level best to interfere with that arrest
[01:41:46.760 --> 01:41:51.760]  Now that opens up a whole nother can of worms for the bailiff
[01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:56.760]  If he is interfering with an arrest that the statute itself allows
[01:41:56.760 --> 01:41:58.760]  I mean the statute's very clear here in Texas
[01:41:58.760 --> 01:42:08.760]  A citizen may arrest anybody that is committing a felony or a breach of the peace within the citizen's line of sight
[01:42:08.760 --> 01:42:13.760]  And there's no doubt about the fact that this is what's going on in the courtroom
[01:42:13.760 --> 01:42:19.760]  So what becomes the responsibility or the liability of the bailiff if he interferes with such a lawful arrest
[01:42:19.760 --> 01:42:25.760]  Or refuses to take custody of a lawfully arrested prisoner
[01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:27.760]  That's a good question
[01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:39.760]  I couldn't find anything on a police officer's duty to take possession of a person arrested by a citizen
[01:42:39.760 --> 01:42:53.760]  I do find case law that requires a citizen who makes a citizen's arrest to take the person directly to the nearest magistrate
[01:42:53.760 --> 01:43:02.760]  The same as it applies to a police officer because the requirement applies to the person making the arrest
[01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:05.760]  It doesn't say anything about police officer or not police officer
[01:43:05.760 --> 01:43:07.760]  Just whoever makes the arrest
[01:43:07.760 --> 01:43:16.760]  But I couldn't find anything that directs a police officer to take custody of a prisoner from a citizen
[01:43:16.760 --> 01:43:28.760]  Well does it also come into play that the bailiff has the responsibility to arrest the prisoner himself in the first place since he witnessed the crime
[01:43:28.760 --> 01:43:30.760]  Now that's in there
[01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:31.760]  Okay
[01:43:31.760 --> 01:43:32.760]  Absolutely
[01:43:32.760 --> 01:43:33.760]  That's what I thought
[01:43:33.760 --> 01:43:35.760]  And that's what I generally invoke
[01:43:35.760 --> 01:43:38.760]  Okay all right listen we're going to break
[01:43:38.760 --> 01:43:44.760]  We'll pick this up on the other side and we've also got Jesse from Texas one final segment
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[01:45:24.760 --> 01:45:32.760]  Okay we are back, we are going to Jesse in Texas now, Jesse thanks for calling in, what's on your mind?
[01:45:32.760 --> 01:45:37.760]  Hi Deborah, Randy and Craig, you had a great show, are doing a great seminar
[01:45:37.760 --> 01:45:39.760]  Thank you
[01:45:39.760 --> 01:45:48.760]  I was calling just to verify or for the correct spelling of the new website that you mentioned, the Forensic Audit Finder
[01:45:48.760 --> 01:45:58.760]  Forensic, yeah ForensicFraudFinder.com and I'll be posting a link on the rule of law radio website too
[01:45:58.760 --> 01:46:08.760]  It's F-O-R-E-N-S-I-C F-R-A-U-D-F-I-N-D-E-R
[01:46:08.760 --> 01:46:14.760]  Okay great and the other website
[01:46:14.760 --> 01:46:22.760]  Oh and don't put a D in Forensic, it drives the system crazy, it took me half a day to figure out I did that
[01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:25.760]  Okay don't use, I'm sorry it's not a D?
[01:46:25.760 --> 01:46:29.760]  No it's a C, F-R-E-N-S-I-C
[01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:32.760]  I was going to say there's not a D in the word Forensic
[01:46:32.760 --> 01:46:38.760]  I know the computer tried to tell me that too, it got real excited
[01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:42.760]  Okay and you guys are hosting this website?
[01:46:42.760 --> 01:46:43.760]  Yes
[01:46:43.760 --> 01:46:45.760]  Yeah we're performing the service
[01:46:45.760 --> 01:46:54.760]  It's a little clunky right now, I've got it put together so that it works, I will be adding a lot of sophistication in the future
[01:46:54.760 --> 01:46:59.760]  But right now it makes the documents available
[01:46:59.760 --> 01:47:15.760]  And this way, there's also a spreadsheet where you can put in, look at your documents and if on the different documents there are different interest rates
[01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:23.760]  You can put in the different interest rates and it will calculate the difference you would pay, how much you would overpay
[01:47:23.760 --> 01:47:27.760]  If they're charging you an interest rate above the one you agreed to
[01:47:27.760 --> 01:47:34.760]  You look at the note, at the security instrument, look at the interest on that and the amount
[01:47:34.760 --> 01:47:37.760]  And then look at the truth in lending statement
[01:47:37.760 --> 01:47:41.760]  See what that one says, it's often different and it's often higher
[01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:53.760]  Put the truth in lending statement higher one in the first section and in the second section you put what you should be paid and it will tell you how much you would pay extra
[01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:57.760]  So that's on the site and it's working as well
[01:47:57.760 --> 01:48:07.760]  Terrific, and then I'll check it out, Forensic Finder
[01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:16.760]  Yes and if you have any trouble with it let me know, I'm still debugging it, there may be things that I've messed up and missed
[01:48:16.760 --> 01:48:19.760]  So if you find any problem with it let me know
[01:48:19.760 --> 01:48:23.760]  Okay, so your email is at brutallaw?
[01:48:23.760 --> 01:48:26.760]  Yes, randy at brutallawradio.com
[01:48:26.760 --> 01:48:30.760]  Okay, all right, thank you
[01:48:30.760 --> 01:48:33.760]  All right, thanks Jesse and thanks for coming to the seminar
[01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:37.760]  We really did have an excellent turnout, we filled the room
[01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:41.760]  Okay, we're going now to Derek in Texas, looks like a first time caller
[01:48:41.760 --> 01:48:44.760]  Derek, thanks for calling in, what's on your mind tonight?
[01:48:44.760 --> 01:49:01.760]  Well this talk about arresting the judge, it seems to me that although it politically seems to work well in public to arrest the body, why don't you just announce arresting his bond, if you arrest the bond he can't do business
[01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:05.760]  Oh well that's part of our techniques as well
[01:49:05.760 --> 01:49:10.760]  You can't make a direct arrest on the bond, you can make a challenge to the bond
[01:49:10.760 --> 01:49:16.760]  You can also file a lien against the bond or a claim with the risk management department
[01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:25.760]  That's how you arrest his bond, you can't do that instantly, but asking the bailiff to drag the judge down off the bench, that is a hoot
[01:49:25.760 --> 01:49:32.760]  Well I know it sounds like a lot of fun but it seems to me you want to find something that actually works
[01:49:32.760 --> 01:49:37.760]  Actually it does, it disqualifies the judge
[01:49:37.760 --> 01:49:48.760]  I know a fellow in New York that has done that, he just made a public announcement that his bond is being placed under arrest, that he'll be filing the paperwork as soon as he leaves the court
[01:49:48.760 --> 01:49:52.760]  Yeah but unfortunately he has to leave the court before that's going to happen
[01:49:52.760 --> 01:50:10.760]  Well yeah, I still like that idea, the bond is when you start talking bond to a judge it's like talking bar grievance to an attorney, now you're hitting him where he lives and now the judge knows you know where his weak spot is
[01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:22.760]  Yeah see we like to hit him from all angles, the criminal, the commercial and the civil, so yeah we file liens against their bonds, we file claims against their bonds with risk management
[01:50:22.760 --> 01:50:29.760]  Yeah a lot of times they'll have two bonds, they'll have one that's like a bond and another one that's like a liability insurance policy
[01:50:29.760 --> 01:50:39.760]  So you hit both with paperwork, liens and claims and also criminal charges, asking the bailiff to arrest him and civil lawsuits, we do it all
[01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:41.760]  We hit him from all sides
[01:50:41.760 --> 01:50:42.760]  Yeah
[01:50:42.760 --> 01:50:53.760]  I'm thinking the bond, wouldn't it effectively give the judge an interest? The judge is disqualified if he has an interest
[01:50:53.760 --> 01:50:54.760]  Right
[01:50:54.760 --> 01:50:56.760]  Three challenges to his bond, his history
[01:50:56.760 --> 01:50:59.760]  Yeah well that's where his wallet is you know, in the bond
[01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:07.760]  Well the judge generally doesn't pay that, it's generally the municipality or the county depending on which it is
[01:51:07.760 --> 01:51:15.760]  Well no that's true but that's the basis that allows him to operate if he's not bonded he can't operate
[01:51:15.760 --> 01:51:26.760]  Yeah they're going to say well there's no money coming out of his pocket so that doesn't directly give him an interest and I'm going to say no wait a minute
[01:51:26.760 --> 01:51:32.760]  Three challenges to his bond, he's out of office so yeah it does give him an interest
[01:51:32.760 --> 01:51:43.760]  And we'd have to argue whether the fact that the bonding company, the insurance company would cancel his bond gives him an interest or not
[01:51:43.760 --> 01:51:52.760]  That would be a fun argument to make and let the judge sit there and squirm and wonder whether we're going to win the argument or not
[01:51:52.760 --> 01:52:02.760]  And it's kind of nice with the challenge to the jurisdiction and the motions to disqualify, he's automatically disqualified, he can't rule on a motion to disqualify himself
[01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:03.760]  Right
[01:52:03.760 --> 01:52:06.760]  They've got to bring in somebody else automatically
[01:52:06.760 --> 01:52:10.760]  Well I knew a guy in New York that had done that once and so I thought
[01:52:10.760 --> 01:52:13.760]  Do you know what happened as a result?
[01:52:13.760 --> 01:52:22.760]  They started negotiating with him, they settled down and let him conduct court, that's what they did
[01:52:22.760 --> 01:52:24.760]  And it worked, wonderful
[01:52:24.760 --> 01:52:25.760]  Yeah
[01:52:25.760 --> 01:52:31.760]  And that might be less directly confrontational than Mr. Berglund, Greg does it all to me
[01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:33.760]  That tends not to get them negotiating
[01:52:33.760 --> 01:52:34.760]  Right
[01:52:34.760 --> 01:52:37.760]  That gets them really excited
[01:52:37.760 --> 01:52:42.760]  So I like the idea, let me try that one next
[01:52:42.760 --> 01:52:45.760]  Well spin it around your head and see what comes out
[01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:46.760]  Thank you
[01:52:46.760 --> 01:52:47.760]  Hey Eddie
[01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:48.760]  Yes sir
[01:52:48.760 --> 01:52:51.760]  I left you a text message, you may want to read it
[01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:52.760]  All right
[01:52:52.760 --> 01:52:53.760]  Okay
[01:52:53.760 --> 01:52:56.760]  Yes, is that you who were calling me a moment ago?
[01:52:56.760 --> 01:52:57.760]  It was
[01:52:57.760 --> 01:53:01.760]  Okay, all right, I'll check it out, sorry I couldn't answer it but I was on here
[01:53:01.760 --> 01:53:05.760]  Well I finally figured that out when you wouldn't pick up the phone
[01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:07.760]  Great show guys, thanks so much
[01:53:07.760 --> 01:53:08.760]  Yes sir, thank you
[01:53:08.760 --> 01:53:14.760]  All right, thank you, okay we've got another caller on the line, we've got Bill from Texas
[01:53:14.760 --> 01:53:17.760]  Bill thanks for calling in, what's on your mind tonight?
[01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:22.760]  Hey Deborah, I was just calling in to corroborate something you were saying earlier in the show
[01:53:22.760 --> 01:53:23.760]  Oh okay
[01:53:23.760 --> 01:53:29.760]  The United States is never held title to any public lands in Texas as it has in other states
[01:53:29.760 --> 01:53:35.760]  The documents affecting the annexation of Texas reserved all public lands to the state
[01:53:35.760 --> 01:53:46.760]  That's in joint resolution, March 1st, 1845, and joint resolution for annexing Texas to
[01:53:46.760 --> 01:53:50.760]  the United States Convention, July 4th, 1845
[01:53:50.760 --> 01:53:57.760]  That is interesting, Texas is unique in a couple of ways, another way is that one of
[01:53:57.760 --> 01:54:06.760]  the things Texas reserved is the position of the flag, no flag flies above the Texas
[01:54:06.760 --> 01:54:08.760]  flag in the state of Texas
[01:54:08.760 --> 01:54:14.760]  Then it's really interesting how you see all over the place the United States flag flying
[01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:18.760]  above the Texas flag on the same pole, I see that constantly
[01:54:18.760 --> 01:54:21.760]  It's supposed to do that in other states, not in this
[01:54:21.760 --> 01:54:26.760]  Well they do it here all the time, I see it constantly so that's unfortunate
[01:54:26.760 --> 01:54:28.760]  They just don't know any better
[01:54:28.760 --> 01:54:33.760]  Well Bill, yeah, that's correct because I've already gotten a list of all properties that
[01:54:33.760 --> 01:54:37.760]  have been ceded to the federal government in the state of Texas
[01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:45.760]  It's about 30 or 40 or so and they're basically all like, there's two federal penitentiaries
[01:54:45.760 --> 01:54:52.760]  There are a number of Air Force bases or other military bases and then a number of post offices
[01:54:52.760 --> 01:54:57.760]  And ironically enough, not one square inch of property has ever been ceded to the federal
[01:54:57.760 --> 01:55:00.760]  government in Travis County, the seat of government here in Texas
[01:55:00.760 --> 01:55:07.760]  Not even Bergstrom Air Force Base was ever ceded to the federal government
[01:55:07.760 --> 01:55:10.760]  I pulled the file from the state archives library and it was incredible
[01:55:10.760 --> 01:55:16.760]  There was a plethora of letters that were written back and forth between the state AG,
[01:55:16.760 --> 01:55:21.760]  the secretary of state of Texas, the state comptroller, the governor's office
[01:55:21.760 --> 01:55:25.760]  And they were all communicating back and forth between each other because the federal
[01:55:25.760 --> 01:55:30.760]  government had sent them the GSA, someone from the GSA had written to the secretary of state
[01:55:30.760 --> 01:55:36.760]  back in the 50s saying, you know, we don't have anything in our records showing that
[01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:38.760]  the Bergstrom Air Force Base has ever been ceded to us
[01:55:38.760 --> 01:55:41.760]  Can you please find that in your records and send it to us?
[01:55:41.760 --> 01:55:43.760]  Well it never was ceded, that's why
[01:55:43.760 --> 01:55:48.760]  And so now I'd like to find out how much money do the feds owe the state of Texas,
[01:55:48.760 --> 01:55:52.760]  the people of the state of Texas for back rent on that land
[01:55:52.760 --> 01:55:56.760]  Because Bergstrom Air Force Base was never ceded to the federal government
[01:55:56.760 --> 01:55:59.760]  And neither was the post office downtown, the same thing happened
[01:55:59.760 --> 01:56:02.760]  Hmm, yeah that's interesting
[01:56:02.760 --> 01:56:05.760]  But some have, some properties have been formally ceded
[01:56:05.760 --> 01:56:09.760]  Like I said earlier, the penitentiaries and some other military bases
[01:56:09.760 --> 01:56:11.760]  But yeah, public lands have not
[01:56:11.760 --> 01:56:14.760]  In general, public lands are not ceded
[01:56:14.760 --> 01:56:21.760]  Just specific properties where there would be a military base or something
[01:56:21.760 --> 01:56:25.760]  Yeah, public lands would include highways, right?
[01:56:25.760 --> 01:56:30.760]  Right, or like a national force and things like that
[01:56:30.760 --> 01:56:32.760]  No, I don't think it would include highways
[01:56:32.760 --> 01:56:36.760]  If it was an interstate, it might
[01:56:36.760 --> 01:56:43.760]  But in general, yeah, it's specific pieces of property like within a particular county
[01:56:43.760 --> 01:56:48.760]  Well unless they altered the terms of the annexation of the state
[01:56:48.760 --> 01:56:52.760]  I mean, you think they did that?
[01:56:52.760 --> 01:56:58.760]  I haven't looked at that yet, but I mean I'm in general talking about lands that have been ceded to the federal government
[01:56:58.760 --> 01:57:00.760]  By the government of Texas
[01:57:00.760 --> 01:57:05.760]  Well say National Park, is that federal land or state?
[01:57:05.760 --> 01:57:12.760]  That was, Big Bend National Park was in the list of land that had been ceded to the federal government
[01:57:12.760 --> 01:57:17.760]  That was one, that was one of them, yep
[01:57:17.760 --> 01:57:21.760]  I guess they amended the terms
[01:57:21.760 --> 01:57:25.760]  Well no, this has nothing to do with annexation, this has to do with formal session
[01:57:25.760 --> 01:57:30.760]  This is the process of a deed of session and notice of acceptance by the federal government
[01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:33.760]  This has nothing to do with annexation
[01:57:33.760 --> 01:57:37.760]  No, no, he's saying that the annexation forbade it
[01:57:37.760 --> 01:57:39.760]  Right
[01:57:39.760 --> 01:57:43.760]  He was saying something in the annexation had to do with public lands
[01:57:43.760 --> 01:57:50.760]  Right, it says that all public lands are reserved to the state, none of it is ceded to the federal government
[01:57:50.760 --> 01:57:53.760]  So we could challenge the secession
[01:57:53.760 --> 01:58:00.760]  Challenge the session, you could, you may be able to challenge the session of Big Bend since it's a public land
[01:58:00.760 --> 01:58:03.760]  But you wouldn't be able to challenge the session of anything else
[01:58:03.760 --> 01:58:06.760]  But was it private or was it public before it was ceded?
[01:58:06.760 --> 01:58:10.760]  Of that I don't know, I was mainly doing research in Travis County
[01:58:10.760 --> 01:58:15.760]  But maybe you could go down to the State Archives Library and pull the file on Big Bend
[01:58:15.760 --> 01:58:23.760]  I don't have time to research Big Bend because that's not, I have no interest in digging up the legality of Big Bend
[01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:29.760]  I'm concerned with Travis County, but maybe something you could go do, you could go pull up the file on Big Bend
[01:58:29.760 --> 01:58:31.760]  Down at the State Archives Library
[01:58:31.760 --> 01:58:32.760]  Thanks for being on the air
[01:58:32.760 --> 01:58:39.760]  Okay great, thank you, okay we are at the end of the show, this is the rule of law
[01:58:39.760 --> 01:59:06.760]  Randy Kelton, Eddie Craig, Deborah Stevens, we will be back Thursday night
[01:59:09.760 --> 01:59:11.760]  Dangerous
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[01:59:13.760 --> 01:59:16.760]  You're not a Chucky puppy
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[01:59:20.760 --> 01:59:21.760]  Chucky
[01:59:21.760 --> 01:59:24.760]  You're not a Chucky puppy
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[01:59:30.760 --> 01:59:32.760]  I'm dangerous
[01:59:32.760 --> 01:59:34.760]  I'm dangerous
[01:59:34.760 --> 01:59:36.760]  I'm like a deafening rain
[01:59:36.760 --> 01:59:38.760]  Watch my eyes
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[01:59:40.760 --> 01:59:42.760]  Dangerous
[01:59:42.760 --> 01:59:44.760]  If you eat out of your mouth
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