[00:00.000 --> 00:11.200]  The opposition Democratic Party of Japan has won a landslide victory that analysts are
[00:11.200 --> 00:15.080]  calling the most significant change since World War II.
[00:15.080 --> 00:20.200]  The DPJ is expected to demand revisions of the Status of Forces Agreement between the
[00:20.200 --> 00:26.720]  U.S. and Japan, cancel the nation's role in the Afghan war, and ban the U.S. from stationing
[00:26.720 --> 00:29.600]  nuclear weapons in Japan.
[00:29.600 --> 00:35.560]  According to CIA officials, Blackwater, USA, offered to provide skilled foreign assassins
[00:35.560 --> 00:41.020]  to the covert CIA program of assassination of terrorists in nations where they had no
[00:41.020 --> 00:43.240]  formal presence.
[00:43.240 --> 00:47.760]  A week after the Justice Department released documents describing the CIA's rendition
[00:47.760 --> 00:54.280]  program, an international human rights tribunal has taken up the case of Khaled al-Masri,
[00:54.280 --> 00:59.880]  a German citizen who was rendered to a CIA black-site prison. After realizing they had
[00:59.880 --> 01:12.960]  captured the wrong man, the CIA blindfolded al-Masri and abandoned him in Albania.
[01:12.960 --> 01:20.560]  A recent analysis of the 2007 financial markets of 48 countries has revealed the world's finances
[01:20.560 --> 01:26.360]  are in the hands of just a few mutual funds, banks, and corporations. This is the first
[01:26.360 --> 01:32.320]  clear picture of the global concentration of financial power and shows the worldwide
[01:32.320 --> 01:38.840]  financial system as it stood on the brink of the current economic crisis. Stefano Battiston
[01:38.840 --> 01:45.160]  and James Glatfelder, physicists at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, extracted
[01:45.160 --> 01:52.680]  information from 25,000 stocks and 106,000 shareholding entities, revealing the backbone
[01:52.680 --> 01:58.380]  of each country's financial market. These represented the owners of 80% of a country's
[01:58.380 --> 02:05.080]  market capital, yet consisted of remarkably few shareholders. They found the most pared-down
[02:05.080 --> 02:12.080]  backbones existed in the US, Australia, and the UK. But while each American company linked
[02:12.080 --> 02:18.400]  to many owners, their analysis found the owners varied little from stock to stock, meaning
[02:18.400 --> 02:26.960]  that comparatively few hands were holding the reins of the entire market.
[02:26.960 --> 02:32.040]  South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu said Friday the lesson Israel must learn from the
[02:32.040 --> 02:38.080]  Holocaust is that it can never get security through fences, walls, and guns, commenting
[02:38.080 --> 02:43.360]  on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's statement that the lesson of the Holocaust is that Israel
[02:43.360 --> 02:48.800]  should always defend itself. Tutu noted that in South Africa, they tried to get security
[02:48.800 --> 02:53.880]  from the barrel of a gun. They never got it. They got security when the human rights of
[02:53.880 --> 03:11.800]  all were recognized and respected.
[03:24.480 --> 03:51.480]  Bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when
[03:51.480 --> 03:59.080]  they come for you? When you were eight and you had bad trees, you'd go to school and
[03:59.080 --> 04:05.080]  learn the golden rules. So why are you acting like a bloody fool? If you get hot, then you
[04:05.080 --> 04:13.680]  must get cool. Bad boys, bad boys, bad boys, what are you gonna do when we come for you?
[04:13.680 --> 04:21.880]  Michael Badnerich, Deborah Stevens, Randy Kelton. Tonight we have indeed Michael Badnerich
[04:21.880 --> 04:27.680]  again, very special guest, very close friend of ours. And Michael, we appreciate you joining
[04:27.680 --> 04:33.680]  us tonight. You came on tonight because you wanted to talk about your Constitution class.
[04:33.680 --> 04:40.680]  Yes, I do. I'm very excited. I am once again teaching my class in Austin where my heart
[04:40.680 --> 04:47.680]  is. The class is going to be on Saturday, September 5th. It's gonna be at the Wyndham
[04:47.680 --> 04:57.680]  Garden Hotel on I-35 just north of Ben White. And I did get a very large conference center
[04:57.680 --> 05:05.080]  room, but seating is still limited. Things are filling up. And anybody that would like
[05:05.080 --> 05:12.380]  to join me for my infamous class can find out all the information they need and register
[05:12.380 --> 05:23.080]  for the class at my website, constitutionpreservation.org, constitutionpreservation.org. And I've taught
[05:23.080 --> 05:29.180]  this class probably in the neighborhood of 300 times. It is very similar to the one that's
[05:29.180 --> 05:37.280]  available on the Internet. The one on the Internet was videotaped September 9th, 2001,
[05:37.280 --> 05:45.280]  literally 48 hours before the towers fell in New York. Since then, hopefully we've refined
[05:45.280 --> 05:52.080]  it and improved it. Every student gets a copy, an autographed copy of my book, Good to Be
[05:52.080 --> 06:00.280]  King. And after class, the class is from 9 a.m. until 6 p.m. We take a one-hour lunch
[06:00.280 --> 06:09.380]  break. And at 6 p.m. we terminate the class and then we go find a local restaurant. And
[06:09.380 --> 06:17.780]  any questions that you did not get answered during the class, I promise to continue answering
[06:17.780 --> 06:24.580]  questions until there are no more people asking questions. Sometimes that can last fairly
[06:24.580 --> 06:31.780]  late. Once again, it will be in Austin, Texas on
[06:31.780 --> 06:39.180]  September 5th, Saturday, September 5th, from 9 to 6 a.m. at the Wyndham Garden Hotel. And
[06:39.180 --> 06:46.680]  if you're listening to this in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, I will be offering the class again
[06:46.680 --> 06:53.980]  in Grapevine, Texas at the end of the month. That will be September 26th. And if you have
[06:53.980 --> 07:01.780]  friends in Illinois, I'll be offering my class twice in Illinois, September 19th in Bloomington,
[07:01.780 --> 07:08.780]  Illinois, which is a Saturday. And then on October 9th, which is a Friday before the
[07:08.780 --> 07:19.380]  State Fair, I will be in DuCoin, D-U-Q-U-O-I-N, DuCoin, Illinois, October 9th, 10th, and 11th
[07:19.380 --> 07:27.580]  at the Illinois State Fair. So if you'd like me to bring my class to your town, go ahead
[07:27.580 --> 07:35.280]  and send me an email. All I need is, you know, 30 people interested in spending the day learning
[07:35.280 --> 07:43.180]  about our founding documents and the fundamental principles upon which they are based.
[07:43.180 --> 07:47.980]  That's awesome. And I highly recommend the class to everyone because I've taken it and
[07:47.980 --> 07:56.340]  it is well worth the time spent. I can tell you that. Very much worth the time spent.
[07:56.340 --> 07:59.780]  We also have Eddie Craig with us tonight. Eddie, thank you for joining us.
[07:59.780 --> 08:01.780]  Thanks. Glad to be here.
[08:01.780 --> 08:02.780]  Good deal.
[08:02.780 --> 08:06.780]  How are you doing, Mr. Badner? Glad to see you back.
[08:06.780 --> 08:13.780]  I'm well. You know, vertical and breathing, which means I'm still fighting for liberty.
[08:13.780 --> 08:14.780]  Yep.
[08:14.780 --> 08:23.780]  And the great thing, I mean, I've started studying the Constitution about 28 years ago.
[08:23.780 --> 08:29.780]  And over the course of time, I've seen the patriot community grow. Originally, there
[08:29.780 --> 08:35.780]  were only maybe half a dozen of us that were worried about the Constitution and the violations.
[08:35.780 --> 08:44.780]  And especially in the last 12 months, the last 12 months, we've seen a huge, huge increase
[08:44.780 --> 08:50.780]  in the number of people concerned about the government, the number of patriot groups,
[08:50.780 --> 08:58.780]  the number of patriot websites, the protest rallies that are being held are growing.
[08:58.780 --> 09:03.780]  I remember going to my first protest rallies in Austin, and we thought we had a pretty
[09:03.780 --> 09:11.780]  good group if we had, you know, 25 or 30 people. And now we've had thousands and thousands
[09:11.780 --> 09:21.780]  of people. San Antonio had 18,000 people for the April 15th Tea Party rally.
[09:21.780 --> 09:29.780]  And so Americans are waking up. They are looking for answers. And I'm very pleased they are
[09:29.780 --> 09:36.780]  able to get answers here on rule of law radio and in various places across the Internet.
[09:36.780 --> 09:42.780]  So I am confident, I'm very confident that we will restore liberty.
[09:42.780 --> 09:50.780]  I'm just a little concerned that it may get a little bit interesting between now and then.
[09:50.780 --> 09:52.780]  Interesting, indeed.
[09:52.780 --> 10:00.780]  It appears to be getting interesting already. I expect it's going to get a bit dicey.
[10:00.780 --> 10:03.780]  Speaking of liberty and interesting, Randy, how was yours today?
[10:03.780 --> 10:05.780]  I have it.
[10:05.780 --> 10:12.780]  Yeah, why don't you give our listeners a little heads up here? You forgot Friday to tell people
[10:12.780 --> 10:17.780]  to go down to the county courthouse today to support you at your hearing.
[10:17.780 --> 10:20.780]  Unfortunately, you got a continuance.
[10:20.780 --> 10:26.780]  Yes, that's what I expected. I had talked to the attorney. And, you know, I talked to people
[10:26.780 --> 10:37.780]  about taking control of counsel. I can assure you, it works. I definitely have my attorney's
[10:37.780 --> 10:49.780]  attention. But then again, saying that, to his credit, I'm real pleased with this guy.
[10:49.780 --> 10:55.780]  He has certainly seemed to take an interest in what I'm doing.
[10:55.780 --> 11:01.780]  Now, I always have to keep in mind that he may be simply schmoozing me.
[11:01.780 --> 11:12.780]  I've been around too long to get comfortable. However, he was, he's being very careful.
[11:12.780 --> 11:19.780]  He's asking all the right questions. And he came up with some very interesting answers today.
[11:19.780 --> 11:33.780]  We did get a continuance. The prosecution supposedly subpoenaed all of these officers to be at this hearing.
[11:33.780 --> 11:40.780]  And, oh, my goodness, they forgot to bring the most important guy.
[11:40.780 --> 11:50.780]  Funny how that happens. The sergeant had smashed my face into a wall. And frankly, I thought this was
[11:50.780 --> 11:56.780]  song and dance and seltzer down your pants. This is what the prosecutors normally do.
[11:56.780 --> 12:04.780]  They subpoena you to a hearing so they can play, let's make a deal.
[12:04.780 --> 12:16.780]  And my attorney had heard it from me enough that he got the idea. There will be no let's make a deal.
[12:16.780 --> 12:23.780]  Whatever he may think of that, it's not going to happen in this case. And he got that part.
[12:23.780 --> 12:31.780]  Because he went to the prosecutor and made it clear to him, this client's not going to take a deal.
[12:31.780 --> 12:40.780]  And in doing this and what I've done to him, I let him know that if he doesn't adjudicate every one of my due process rights,
[12:40.780 --> 12:45.780]  I'll farm bar grievance against him for each one he fails to adjudicate.
[12:45.780 --> 12:51.780]  Now, frankly, that was kind of harsh to do to him, but life is tough.
[12:51.780 --> 12:59.780]  He did get the point. And more than that, it's taken him off the dime.
[12:59.780 --> 13:11.780]  He confided today that the prosecutor told him that I was one of these Republic of Texas wackos.
[13:11.780 --> 13:18.780]  But that's okay because the prosecutor is aware that there's going to be no deal here,
[13:18.780 --> 13:23.780]  that I'm going to take him all the way so he knows that going in.
[13:23.780 --> 13:29.780]  And all we had, even the attorney said all you had to do is make it so they have to do a lot of research
[13:29.780 --> 13:34.780]  and they're not going to want to do a lot of research because they don't have time and this will go away.
[13:34.780 --> 13:38.780]  And that's exactly what I expect to happen.
[13:38.780 --> 13:47.780]  But in the meantime, he got a continuance. Oh, the one point I was going to address that I noticed.
[13:47.780 --> 13:58.780]  I happened to notice sitting in the courtroom waiting for this supposed hearing to start that none of the officers showed up.
[13:58.780 --> 14:06.780]  That's an odd thing. When my attorney asked for a continuance at the last moment,
[14:06.780 --> 14:12.780]  not a single officer showed up in the courtroom. It's strange how that happens.
[14:12.780 --> 14:19.780]  Frankly, I don't think the first one was ever subpoenaed. They never intended to have a hearing.
[14:19.780 --> 14:25.780]  They intended to play Let's Make a Deal when my attorney made it clear there was going to be no Let's Make a Deal.
[14:25.780 --> 14:31.780]  They said all shucks. Now we have to go home and try something else.
[14:31.780 --> 14:39.780]  So they did. We went to the attorney's office and talked to him for a couple of hours.
[14:39.780 --> 14:47.780]  And we had a very vigorous give and take.
[14:47.780 --> 15:00.780]  He addressed all the issues that I had brought up and frankly disagreed with me on some of them, but did agree to argue them anyway.
[15:00.780 --> 15:13.780]  So putting your attorney on the dime is good for you and is good for the attorney because frankly the attorney seemed to enjoy addressing these issues.
[15:13.780 --> 15:18.780]  He said that I have forced him to learn some things.
[15:18.780 --> 15:21.780]  Amen.
[15:21.780 --> 15:23.780]  You should have known him already.
[15:23.780 --> 15:25.780]  Of course.
[15:25.780 --> 15:36.780]  He's doing what attorneys do and because attorneys never address these issues, he's never had to delve into this.
[15:36.780 --> 15:51.780]  But I think he recognized this would be good for him and how it would be good for him if he gets a client with deep pockets that can turn out to help him down the road.
[15:51.780 --> 15:58.780]  He now has tools to use to beat the snot out of the prosecution with.
[15:58.780 --> 16:00.780]  If he wanted to.
[16:00.780 --> 16:02.780]  Provided he's willing to use those tools.
[16:02.780 --> 16:09.780]  Right. He'll only use them if it's more valuable to use them than not use them.
[16:09.780 --> 16:12.780]  More valuable for himself, that is.
[16:12.780 --> 16:26.780]  Yeah, exactly. If he's got an indigent client, he's not going to damage his career or make the judge angry at him just for some indigent flunky.
[16:26.780 --> 16:29.780]  No.
[16:29.780 --> 16:35.780]  So we don't have liberty and justice for all. We only have justice for the rich.
[16:35.780 --> 16:37.780]  Those who can afford it.
[16:37.780 --> 16:40.780]  All right, listen, we're about to go to break. Michael stay on the line.
[16:40.780 --> 16:47.780]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, and tonight our very special guest, Michael Badneric.
[16:47.780 --> 16:57.780]  We'll be right back.
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[18:09.780 --> 18:35.780]  All right, we asked the questions and they do not have the answers.
[18:35.780 --> 18:44.780]  But we do. We have the answers. And speaking of questions, Michael, you had a question for Randy on the break, so why don't you go ahead and ask Randy a question.
[18:44.780 --> 18:51.780]  Randy, I mean, I've been studying the Constitution and I'm pretty familiar with that, but I don't know the Texas criminal procedure as much.
[18:51.780 --> 19:08.780]  I was thinking that you would file a motion to dismiss if the prosecution failed to show up with all their police officers and they didn't appear. Wouldn't you be able to file a motion to dismiss and just have the case dropped?
[19:08.780 --> 19:22.780]  No, I would only be able to file a motion to dismiss if the prosecution claimed that they weren't ready or if the prosecution failed to appear at all.
[19:22.780 --> 19:41.780]  The fact that the prosecution didn't have a witness, the problem here was that the prosecutor told my attorney that he was subpoenaing all the police officers, and my attorney didn't subpoena them himself.
[19:41.780 --> 19:56.780]  He trusted the prosecutor to do it. And then it turned out a primary witness was missing. So in effect, it was my attorney, he was culpable in the problem.
[19:56.780 --> 19:58.780]  I see.
[19:58.780 --> 20:23.780]  So I didn't have the standing to move for dismissal. Now had this been, had I been summoned under threat of arrest to appear for trial and the prosecutor came in and said, well, I don't have a key witness, I'm not ready, then absolutely I go for dismissal.
[20:23.780 --> 20:28.780]  So do you think your attorney will fail to subpoena the witnesses the next time?
[20:28.780 --> 20:40.780]  Oh, no. I don't think he'll make that error again. I also asked him to put all of the all of the prosecution's witness on my witness list.
[20:40.780 --> 20:49.780]  And he was surprised as to why I would do that and got this from Tony Davis the other day, it hadn't occurred to me.
[20:49.780 --> 20:59.780]  When the other side calls a witness, they question the witness and then you get to cross the witness.
[20:59.780 --> 21:09.780]  You get to cross examine, you can only question the witness on issues the prosecution brought.
[21:09.780 --> 21:19.780]  So it's a good practice every time, whenever the prosecutor gives you a witness list, you put them all on your witness list.
[21:19.780 --> 21:25.780]  That way you're not restricted to the issues that the prosecution brought before the court.
[21:25.780 --> 21:30.780]  You don't have to cross, you can directly examine them.
[21:30.780 --> 21:39.780]  Does that mean the witness will come up to the stand again, they go up once as the prosecution's witness and then you cross examine,
[21:39.780 --> 21:46.780]  and then later in the trial you can call the person up as your witness and then the prosecution gets to cross examine?
[21:46.780 --> 21:53.780]  Yes, or you can examine them directly without having to recall.
[21:53.780 --> 22:06.780]  Then the prosecution gets the opportunity to cross so that you're both in essentially the same standing before the witness except
[22:06.780 --> 22:19.780]  since the witness was originally a prosecution witness, the first thing the defendant does is ask the court to declare the witness a hostile witness.
[22:19.780 --> 22:31.780]  The reason for that is you don't have to provide foundation for the questions that you ask.
[22:31.780 --> 22:41.780]  I asked the officer, I call a witness and ask the witness if he took me before a magistrate.
[22:41.780 --> 22:52.780]  The prosecutor will object, foundation, because asking him if he took me before a magistrate assumes a bunch of facts not yet in evidence.
[22:52.780 --> 23:02.780]  First I have to ask him if he was called to the scene of a, or if he knew the witness, knew the defendant, and how did he know the defendant?
[23:02.780 --> 23:08.780]  Well, he was called to an incident. Did you observe the witness there? Yes, I did.
[23:08.780 --> 23:14.780]  Did you have reason to believe the witness committed a crime? Yes, I did. Did you arrest the witness? Yes, I did.
[23:14.780 --> 23:25.780]  See, each of these questions builds on the one before, and they have to do that because if you ask, did you arrest this individual?
[23:25.780 --> 23:33.780]  Objection, foundation. It assumes that he had probable cause. It assumes a lot of things not yet in evidence.
[23:33.780 --> 23:39.780]  Then you have to establish foundation. I'm not being real clear on how foundation is. It's not quite that simplistic.
[23:39.780 --> 23:50.780]  But you can't just ask a question out of the blue if you haven't established some kind of foundation for asking that question.
[23:50.780 --> 23:57.780]  Now, what if the witness is a hostile witness? Then I can ask leading questions.
[23:57.780 --> 24:05.780]  When you arrested me, you didn't take me, when you arrested the defendant, you didn't take him to the magistrate, did you?
[24:05.780 --> 24:16.780]  That's a leading question. If he's your witness, you can't ask him that question unless he's been declared a hostile witness.
[24:16.780 --> 24:24.780]  Then you can ask him leading questions. You can state the fact and ask him to confirm or deny the fact.
[24:24.780 --> 24:31.780]  If he's not a hostile witness, you can't state the fact. You have to get him to state the fact.
[24:31.780 --> 24:37.780]  Then you can question him about those facts. Does that make sense?
[24:37.780 --> 24:43.780]  It is. It seems like I should declare every witness a hostile witness.
[24:43.780 --> 24:47.780]  It would be better, but if you call a witness.
[24:47.780 --> 24:50.780]  Usually the witness that you call wants to help you.
[24:50.780 --> 25:08.780]  If the witness doesn't force you to subpoena the witness, then you can't claim him as a hostile witness unless he is the, if you're the defendant, if he's the victim's brother.
[25:08.780 --> 25:17.780]  You could call the victim's brother, and then because he has a relationship with the victim, you can ask the court to declare him a hostile witness.
[25:17.780 --> 25:30.780]  And even though he comes without subpoena, if you can show cause, then you can still ask him to be declared a hostile witness.
[25:30.780 --> 25:33.780]  All right. Well, listen. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Eddie.
[25:33.780 --> 25:42.780]  I was going to ask Randy while we've got Michael on the line here. Did you get my email today, Randy, over 26.04 code of criminal procedure?
[25:42.780 --> 25:48.780]  No. Article 26.04 is procedure for appointing counsel.
[25:48.780 --> 26:04.780]  If you read that very carefully, it specifically states that the court will only appoint counsel for an indigent defendant if and only if the indigent defendant can fill out certain types of paperwork,
[26:04.780 --> 26:12.780]  fill out an affidavit that they are truly indigent and are willing to go through a financial grilling by the court itself.
[26:12.780 --> 26:13.780]  Yes.
[26:13.780 --> 26:31.780]  Now, here's the problem I see with this. Both the federal Constitution and the state Constitution speak to both the assistance of counsel in the federal and the representation of counsel in the state for any criminal case.
[26:31.780 --> 26:43.780]  What they've done in traffic tickets is they define them as criminal, but they have segregated you from 26.04's ability to get a counsel for your defense.
[26:43.780 --> 26:47.780]  Hold on, Eddie. We have someone who's called in.
[26:47.780 --> 26:57.780]  Yes, we have a caller that sent me a text message earlier this afternoon wanting to make a special announcement, and I was just about to send you a chat to that effect, Eddie.
[26:57.780 --> 27:03.780]  Let's go to Mary from Texas, and then Randy will address your question.
[27:03.780 --> 27:07.780]  Mary, thanks for calling in. What's going on tonight?
[27:07.780 --> 27:17.780]  Well, I had a really good time at the TAG meeting on Friday, and everybody let me know about some good radio that we can pick you guys up on.
[27:17.780 --> 27:19.780]  Oh, yeah, and what is that?
[27:19.780 --> 27:27.780]  Well, you know, 90.1 was on, and I believe Estella got a font. Now I think it's moved to 100.1.
[27:27.780 --> 27:28.780]  Okay.
[27:28.780 --> 27:31.780]  Thanks everybody to listen up to that.
[27:31.780 --> 27:37.780]  100.1. Okay, so there's a new transmitter in town, 100.1, that is carrying our show right now?
[27:37.780 --> 27:38.780]  Yes, exactly.
[27:38.780 --> 27:40.780]  Wow, that's awesome.
[27:40.780 --> 27:46.780]  I know. I love these guys. I really appreciate all the work they do, and I hope we can figure out a way to help them.
[27:46.780 --> 27:51.780]  All right, thank you, Mary, and I do believe that there is a 90.1 up in town still.
[27:51.780 --> 27:55.780]  I don't know if they moved the transmitter, if they reduced the wattage or something like that.
[27:55.780 --> 27:57.780]  Yes, 100.1.
[27:57.780 --> 28:03.780]  Yes, so now there's another transmitter, 100.1. That's awesome, and just so our listeners will understand,
[28:03.780 --> 28:11.780]  because people a lot of times don't understand what the difference is between an affiliate and a network, I produce an Internet stream.
[28:11.780 --> 28:19.780]  I produce shows, and I produce an Internet stream that people can log on to my website, me and Randy's website, ruleoflawradio.com,
[28:19.780 --> 28:23.780]  and you can listen to all the shows on this network.
[28:23.780 --> 28:28.780]  What happens after that is we have no control over.
[28:28.780 --> 28:38.780]  Eventually we'll get to the point where we'll start syndicating, but we do have affiliates, both AM and FM, all over the country that carry our stream.
[28:38.780 --> 28:42.780]  But keep in mind that we are not a radio station.
[28:42.780 --> 28:48.780]  I do not produce shows on 90.1 or 100.1, for that matter, or any of the other AM or FMs.
[28:48.780 --> 28:50.780]  They are our affiliates.
[28:50.780 --> 29:00.780]  I produce an Internet stream, and these other AM and FM affiliates carry my stream that I produce, and it's wonderful news that there's a new transmitter in town.
[29:00.780 --> 29:01.780]  Thank you very much, Mary.
[29:01.780 --> 29:06.780]  If there's people out there listening on 90.1 right now, you can tune over to 100.1.
[29:06.780 --> 29:08.780]  Apparently he has better coverage.
[29:08.780 --> 29:10.780]  Yeah, y'all have great shows. Good to hear from you, Randy.
[29:10.780 --> 29:16.780]  Oh, and Michael, I owe you a major apology.
[29:16.780 --> 29:19.780]  No, you don't. You guys log.
[29:19.780 --> 29:28.780]  Michael was in town, and we were all supposed to have lunch together, and I didn't get it organized, so Michael missed the thrill of getting to have lunch with Mary.
[29:28.780 --> 29:33.780]  And Mary, stay on the line, because Michael wanted to say something to you.
[29:33.780 --> 29:34.780]  Yes, ma'am.
[29:34.780 --> 29:36.780]  So we're going to break, so stay on the line, Michael.
[29:36.780 --> 29:38.780]  You can talk to Mary when we get back on the other side.
[29:38.780 --> 29:42.780]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[29:42.780 --> 29:46.780]  We've got Michael Badneric with us tonight.
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[31:20.780 --> 31:22.780]  Okay, we are back.
[31:22.780 --> 31:26.780]  The rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[31:26.780 --> 31:29.780]  We're here with Michael Badnerich tonight and our good friend Mary has called in.
[31:29.780 --> 31:38.780]  And yes, we attended the one-year anniversary party and election for Texans for Accountable Government.
[31:38.780 --> 31:43.780]  It's a political action committee that one of my very good friends, John Bush, started.
[31:43.780 --> 31:48.780]  He's a host on this network and he got elected executive director.
[31:48.780 --> 31:58.780]  The whole steering committee was re-elected this year, this past Friday evening at an event at the Spider House.
[31:58.780 --> 32:01.780]  Jimmy Vaughn played. It was a great time.
[32:01.780 --> 32:10.780]  And John Bush, I posted two videos on our website of John Bush doing his rap, DJ freestyle.
[32:10.780 --> 32:17.780]  One song was about Deborah Medina for governor and the other one was just about straight-up government corruption.
[32:17.780 --> 32:18.780]  You've got to see these two videos.
[32:18.780 --> 32:24.780]  I had no idea that John Bush was so talented, so it's very great to have him on our network as a host.
[32:24.780 --> 32:26.780]  And I also have another announcement.
[32:26.780 --> 32:32.780]  John Bush is going to start doing a morning show here on this network as well, 7 to 10 a.m.
[32:32.780 --> 32:37.780]  He's going to start off Tuesdays, Thursdays and Friday mornings.
[32:37.780 --> 32:40.780]  He's going to be co-hosting with Katherine Bleich.
[32:40.780 --> 32:43.780]  So that is going to be an excellent, excellent show.
[32:43.780 --> 32:45.780]  So that should be starting in a couple of weeks.
[32:45.780 --> 32:47.780]  But yes, sections for accountable government.
[32:47.780 --> 32:49.780]  You can go to their website.
[32:49.780 --> 32:51.780]  There's a link to it from ruleoflawradio.com.
[32:51.780 --> 32:56.780]  Don't forget to see the videos that I took of John Bush the other night.
[32:56.780 --> 32:58.780]  Very, very funny.
[32:58.780 --> 33:00.780]  Very, I mean, excellent, excellent.
[33:00.780 --> 33:05.780]  But yeah, we appreciate these people putting up these transmitters in town.
[33:05.780 --> 33:07.780]  Again, you know, that doesn't have anything to do with us.
[33:07.780 --> 33:14.780]  What happens to our Internet stream after I put it on the Internet has nothing to do with us.
[33:14.780 --> 33:19.780]  Eventually we'll start syndicating and licensing the streams so we can get a little income.
[33:19.780 --> 33:21.780]  But in the meantime, it's just great to get the word out.
[33:21.780 --> 33:24.780]  Now, Michael, you had a question for Mary.
[33:24.780 --> 33:26.780]  I actually had two questions.
[33:26.780 --> 33:30.780]  First question was to ask her about Texans for Accountable Government Act.
[33:30.780 --> 33:32.780]  Can you tell us a little bit about that?
[33:32.780 --> 33:36.780]  What are you, what is the organization attempting to do?
[33:36.780 --> 33:42.780]  Well, the most that I've done with the group, and I'm pretty much a low-level member,
[33:42.780 --> 33:46.780]  but I'm really in love with this group because we're always at the city hall,
[33:46.780 --> 33:52.780]  always at the Capitol, whether it be 2 a.m. at the Capitol, they finally let us on the floor.
[33:52.780 --> 34:02.780]  It's just a really good place to go to speak at these meetings that the county or the city or the state holds.
[34:02.780 --> 34:08.780]  So I know they have steering committees and they have quite a proper organization,
[34:08.780 --> 34:14.780]  but the only thing I'm really, really struck about are the meetings.
[34:14.780 --> 34:17.780]  We had something at the city hall with the blood withdrawal,
[34:17.780 --> 34:24.780]  and he got together with the local police chief and had a forum, which was highly attended.
[34:24.780 --> 34:28.780]  You know, most city halls are public spaces that should be free to the public.
[34:28.780 --> 34:34.780]  So basically we go as a group and speak at commissioner meetings or city council meetings
[34:34.780 --> 34:36.780]  or committee meetings at the state.
[34:36.780 --> 34:39.780]  And, you know, maybe we dress up, maybe we don't.
[34:39.780 --> 34:44.780]  We have all ages, all different folks, and it's just there's so much unity.
[34:44.780 --> 34:48.780]  A lot of times I've only met people when we're there talking for the first time,
[34:48.780 --> 34:54.780]  and to me that's what it's about, and I'm sure there's more to it.
[34:54.780 --> 34:58.780]  Did you listen to Jimmy Vaughn Friday night?
[34:58.780 --> 35:04.780]  He's my buddy, and I was just wondering, you know, if you enjoyed his music.
[35:04.780 --> 35:05.780]  How long did he play?
[35:05.780 --> 35:09.780]  Oh, my gosh, he played about, I think, an hour and a half.
[35:09.780 --> 35:12.780]  And then there was a rock and roll band that was playing covers like Journey
[35:12.780 --> 35:17.780]  and some really, like, heavy metal stuff, and they're a really young, fun, exuberant band.
[35:17.780 --> 35:22.780]  But, yeah, Jimmy Vaughn was excellent, some really smooth, hard rock and blues,
[35:22.780 --> 35:29.780]  and his wife got a great voice and just beautiful, fun music.
[35:29.780 --> 35:33.780]  Everybody was dancing, and we were all having quite a good time together
[35:33.780 --> 35:35.780]  when usually we're hard at work brainstorming
[35:35.780 --> 35:41.780]  and trying to make our speeches line up after each other perfectly.
[35:41.780 --> 35:43.780]  But, yeah, it was just a blast.
[35:43.780 --> 35:45.780]  I wish you'd been here.
[35:45.780 --> 35:46.780]  I would like to.
[35:46.780 --> 35:49.780]  I didn't know that the meeting existed,
[35:49.780 --> 35:56.780]  and so I unfortunately scheduled another little get-together during the same time period.
[35:56.780 --> 36:05.780]  Well, I'm suggesting to Katie Brewer, one of the leaders at TAG, that maybe we can have monthly volleyball
[36:05.780 --> 36:08.780]  or monthly barbecue outings or something during the day,
[36:08.780 --> 36:12.780]  and we can all get to socialize and our partners can meet each other and whatnot.
[36:12.780 --> 36:14.780]  So everybody knows.
[36:14.780 --> 36:17.780]  Well, maybe you can advertise to TAG,
[36:17.780 --> 36:21.780]  have all your TAG members come out to my Constitution class on Saturday.
[36:21.780 --> 36:24.780]  Okay, tell us all about that.
[36:24.780 --> 36:31.780]  Yeah, I'm teaching my class on Saturday at the Wyndham Garden Hotel on I-35.
[36:31.780 --> 36:34.780]  Oh, that's just great.
[36:34.780 --> 36:38.780]  I will talk with John about that, and we'll put an e-mail out about it.
[36:38.780 --> 36:41.780]  Yeah, give me a call if you guys have any questions.
[36:41.780 --> 36:44.780]  I will do.
[36:44.780 --> 36:46.780]  All right, thanks, Mary.
[36:46.780 --> 36:49.780]  Thank you, and everyone come out to the various dictionary meetings.
[36:49.780 --> 36:54.780]  Tomorrow night, Bregman Book, 7 to 10, everybody else out there, start visiting your city council,
[36:54.780 --> 36:59.780]  your county, all these folks, your capital.
[36:59.780 --> 37:00.780]  And you know what?
[37:00.780 --> 37:03.780]  We're starting to think it's a good time to start just sitting in on the courtrooms
[37:03.780 --> 37:07.780]  and just watching what happens in the court when we're not there.
[37:07.780 --> 37:09.780]  Court watching, excellent.
[37:09.780 --> 37:12.780]  Get out there and have a party together.
[37:12.780 --> 37:13.780]  Excellent.
[37:13.780 --> 37:14.780]  Thank you so much, Mary.
[37:14.780 --> 37:15.780]  Love y'all.
[37:15.780 --> 37:16.780]  Y'all rock.
[37:16.780 --> 37:17.780]  All right.
[37:17.780 --> 37:21.780]  I just want to make one more comment about these micros.
[37:21.780 --> 37:26.780]  You know, people who are doing this, Randy and I have looked into these FCC laws,
[37:26.780 --> 37:31.780]  and the people who are doing this are taking an extreme amount of risk.
[37:31.780 --> 37:37.780]  All right, so when they go down, try not to get angry, but like I said,
[37:37.780 --> 37:40.780]  people are taking a big risk here, and they can only do it for so long.
[37:40.780 --> 37:42.780]  This FCC comes down on them.
[37:42.780 --> 37:43.780]  They have to quit.
[37:43.780 --> 37:47.780]  So I encourage everyone out there to just keep a watch on your dial,
[37:47.780 --> 37:49.780]  no matter what city you're in.
[37:49.780 --> 37:54.780]  If you happen to be blessed to live in a city where there are FM micros,
[37:54.780 --> 37:59.780]  if they disappear, keep a watch on your dial, keep scanning through the dial,
[37:59.780 --> 38:03.780]  because you never know when another one is going to appear on another frequency.
[38:03.780 --> 38:05.780]  And so that's what's happened here in Austin,
[38:05.780 --> 38:08.780]  so we appreciate Mary calling in to get the word out about that.
[38:08.780 --> 38:10.780]  But don't be discouraged out there.
[38:10.780 --> 38:15.780]  It's a good idea for all patriots to just be constantly scanning the FM dial
[38:15.780 --> 38:19.780]  to see if and when another micro may happen to pop up.
[38:19.780 --> 38:23.780]  So if one goes down, another one will probably come up soon, you know,
[38:23.780 --> 38:27.780]  just like in the Bible, when one door is closed, many more are open.
[38:27.780 --> 38:30.780]  So we appreciate Mary calling in about that.
[38:30.780 --> 38:35.780]  If the First Amendment doesn't work, the Second Amendment will.
[38:35.780 --> 38:36.780]  I love y'all.
[38:36.780 --> 38:37.780]  Y'all have a good night.
[38:37.780 --> 38:38.780]  Thanks, Mary.
[38:38.780 --> 38:39.780]  Thanks, Mary.
[38:39.780 --> 38:44.780]  Okay, now, Randy, did you want to address Eddie's question here?
[38:44.780 --> 38:50.780]  Yes, back to 2604.
[38:50.780 --> 38:51.780]  Eddie, you there?
[38:51.780 --> 38:52.780]  Yes, I'm here.
[38:52.780 --> 38:56.780]  Okay, repeat your question on 2604.
[38:56.780 --> 39:00.780]  Well, it's not so much a question as a statement of the way they've got it set up,
[39:00.780 --> 39:08.780]  where those people, the constitutions both state directly that in all criminal prosecutions,
[39:08.780 --> 39:14.780]  the accused in the federal has the right to the assistance of counsel,
[39:14.780 --> 39:17.780]  and in the state it says the right to representation of counsel.
[39:17.780 --> 39:20.780]  Now, this is for any criminal case.
[39:20.780 --> 39:24.780]  Well, they've taken traffic tickets, call them criminal cases,
[39:24.780 --> 39:30.780]  but they refuse to appoint you counsel, whether you're indigent or not.
[39:30.780 --> 39:35.780]  And so if they even haul you in before a judge, of course, there is no assistance of counsel
[39:35.780 --> 39:39.780]  at any point during any proceeding and a traffic ticket.
[39:39.780 --> 39:45.780]  So they're denying your constitutional right to assistance of counsel in a criminal case
[39:45.780 --> 39:52.780]  by telling you they're not going to provide one, irregardless, indigent or otherwise.
[39:52.780 --> 39:54.780]  It's all about the money.
[39:54.780 --> 40:01.780]  Yeah, I understand that part, and it appears to violate constitution.
[40:01.780 --> 40:09.780]  They know, however, that there's little chance of that ever getting adjudicated
[40:09.780 --> 40:17.780]  because on the one hand, the amount of money in question is so minor,
[40:17.780 --> 40:22.780]  and the guy's indigent anyway.
[40:22.780 --> 40:25.780]  Yeah, but here's the thing they're hinging it on.
[40:25.780 --> 40:31.780]  They're hinging it on the fact that there is no jail time associated with the crime.
[40:31.780 --> 40:33.780]  It's by fine only.
[40:33.780 --> 40:35.780]  Now, here's the problem.
[40:35.780 --> 40:40.780]  The constitutions, neither of them, stipulate anything regarding
[40:40.780 --> 40:45.780]  if the crime contains imprisonment as part of the punishment.
[40:45.780 --> 40:50.780]  They both state in any criminal prosecution.
[40:50.780 --> 40:58.780]  Yeah, the problem is the legislatures don't tell us everything,
[40:58.780 --> 41:02.780]  and all of those things the legislatures don't tell us,
[41:02.780 --> 41:11.780]  the judges feel at liberty just to legislate for us, and that's what they've done.
[41:11.780 --> 41:12.780]  Really?
[41:12.780 --> 41:14.780]  I don't remember electing a judge as a legislator.
[41:14.780 --> 41:18.780]  Yeah, they call it legislating from the bench.
[41:18.780 --> 41:29.780]  They call it proactive adjudication, but that too.
[41:29.780 --> 41:32.780]  Well, we know this is about the money, and yes, that's an issue.
[41:32.780 --> 41:39.780]  The problem is it takes so much money to bring this before the Supreme Court,
[41:39.780 --> 41:42.780]  and there's no guarantee they're going to side with you anyway
[41:42.780 --> 41:45.780]  because they're concerned about the money,
[41:45.780 --> 41:49.780]  and they consider traffic tickets a big deal.
[41:49.780 --> 41:52.780]  They should when every state's committing fraud by doing them.
[41:52.780 --> 41:55.780]  Yeah, well, the problem is they quit committing fraud
[41:55.780 --> 41:58.780]  against the people who don't have the resources to do anything about it.
[41:58.780 --> 42:00.780]  Well, that's precisely right.
[42:00.780 --> 42:02.780]  And this is not uncommon.
[42:02.780 --> 42:06.780]  There's a lot of things this way that are wrong.
[42:06.780 --> 42:08.780]  Everybody knows they're wrong.
[42:08.780 --> 42:12.780]  The red light cameras violate constitution.
[42:12.780 --> 42:14.780]  Everybody knows they do.
[42:14.780 --> 42:19.780]  But for $30, $40, you're going to go to the Supreme Court?
[42:19.780 --> 42:20.780]  Who's going to spend?
[42:20.780 --> 42:23.780]  Well, there was a woman from Texas
[42:23.780 --> 42:27.780]  who went to the Supreme Court over a seatbelt violation.
[42:27.780 --> 42:32.780]  Yeah, but they actually took her to jail and took her children,
[42:32.780 --> 42:34.780]  and she was a doctor's wife.
[42:34.780 --> 42:35.780]  Yes, she was.
[42:35.780 --> 42:37.780]  I know this woman personally.
[42:37.780 --> 42:41.780]  Yeah, and took her children into child protective services.
[42:41.780 --> 42:46.780]  This was incredibly traumatic and invasive.
[42:46.780 --> 42:49.780]  It's not like just getting a traffic ticket.
[42:49.780 --> 42:52.780]  Yeah, but now had this woman actually had an attorney
[42:52.780 --> 42:54.780]  or representation that would argue...
[42:54.780 --> 42:56.780]  She did.
[42:56.780 --> 42:59.780]  He actually argued the statutes the way that I've shown them to be?
[42:59.780 --> 43:02.780]  Well, he raised the wrong question.
[43:02.780 --> 43:04.780]  This is Charles Lincoln.
[43:04.780 --> 43:09.780]  And Charles Lincoln, well, in my opinion and Ken's opinion,
[43:09.780 --> 43:13.780]  we looked at it and both of us came to the exact same conclusion
[43:13.780 --> 43:17.780]  is that he asked the wrong question.
[43:17.780 --> 43:19.780]  The question he raised was,
[43:19.780 --> 43:26.780]  could the officer arrest her for a seatbelt violation?
[43:26.780 --> 43:31.780]  And the court said, well, of course they can.
[43:31.780 --> 43:34.780]  The problem was you've got to ask the right question
[43:34.780 --> 43:37.780]  to get the right answer.
[43:37.780 --> 43:40.780]  Was she a person to whom the seatbelt law applied to begin with?
[43:40.780 --> 43:45.780]  That would have been a much better question.
[43:45.780 --> 43:47.780]  Okay, well, listen, we're going to break.
[43:47.780 --> 43:48.780]  We'll be back on the other side.
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[45:05.780 --> 45:08.780]  If we did not have any problems
[45:08.780 --> 45:11.780]  Where are you gonna go for one?
[45:11.780 --> 45:14.780]  If you could not wait any battle
[45:14.780 --> 45:17.780]  Would you purposelessly die?
[45:17.780 --> 45:19.780]  Would you stand among the soldiers
[45:19.780 --> 45:23.780]  Warrior of love scuffling the keys to the peace?
[45:23.780 --> 45:26.780]  All they're taking is a misunderstanding
[45:26.780 --> 45:29.780]  And somebody calls the police
[45:29.780 --> 45:33.780]  All right, watching the Sparks Fly here on Rule of Law Radio.
[45:33.780 --> 45:36.780]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[45:36.780 --> 45:40.780]  We're here with our very good friend Michael Badenarek.
[45:40.780 --> 45:44.780]  And we've got more people helping with the production all the time.
[45:44.780 --> 45:47.780]  I want to give out a very special shout-out
[45:47.780 --> 45:49.780]  to my good friend Steve Skidmore.
[45:49.780 --> 45:51.780]  Brand new host on this network.
[45:51.780 --> 45:54.780]  He is assisting by screening our calls tonight.
[45:54.780 --> 45:56.780]  Really, really appreciate that.
[45:56.780 --> 45:57.780]  A great deal.
[45:57.780 --> 46:00.780]  It's very hard to be on the air and screen calls at the same time.
[46:00.780 --> 46:02.780]  It's one thing to run the board and be on the air.
[46:02.780 --> 46:05.780]  It's a whole different ballgame to try to screen calls and be on the air.
[46:05.780 --> 46:07.780]  So appreciate Steve Skidmore for doing that for us.
[46:07.780 --> 46:09.780]  Hey, I did Good Friday.
[46:09.780 --> 46:14.780]  I only made one made for blunder.
[46:14.780 --> 46:17.780]  Randy actually was at the pilot seat.
[46:17.780 --> 46:18.780]  What, getting up?
[46:18.780 --> 46:19.780]  Yeah.
[46:19.780 --> 46:21.780]  Randy ran the board on his own.
[46:21.780 --> 46:24.780]  I told everybody, don't tell them right there that show killed me.
[46:24.780 --> 46:26.780]  I'm sure you did fine.
[46:26.780 --> 46:27.780]  Okay, so.
[46:27.780 --> 46:32.780]  I'm quite sorry I had to leave you hanging out in the breeze like that, Randy.
[46:32.780 --> 46:35.780]  I think Eddie just went out and got drunk.
[46:35.780 --> 46:37.780]  That's what the lethal pill was.
[46:37.780 --> 46:39.780]  If I actually drank, that could have been a possibility.
[46:39.780 --> 46:42.780]  But, so sorry.
[46:42.780 --> 46:44.780]  That went real well the other night.
[46:44.780 --> 46:45.780]  Okay.
[46:45.780 --> 46:48.780]  Okay, so now we've got George on the collar bridge.
[46:48.780 --> 46:52.780]  But before we bring George up, go ahead, Randy, finish with this seatbelt case.
[46:52.780 --> 46:53.780]  We looked at the case.
[46:53.780 --> 46:58.780]  Yeah, and address what you think was the correct question that they should have asked.
[46:58.780 --> 47:03.780]  Yeah, now I know Charles Lincoln, and there's certainly no slight against him.
[47:03.780 --> 47:10.780]  And I'm relatively certain his client directed him into how he was to approach this issue.
[47:10.780 --> 47:17.780]  He asked, could the officer arrest for a seatbelt violation?
[47:17.780 --> 47:21.780]  And the court said, well, yeah, the statute says he can.
[47:21.780 --> 47:27.780]  What Ken and I both looked at it and felt the right question to ask should have been,
[47:27.780 --> 47:38.780]  does the state have the authority to put someone in jail for an alleged violation
[47:38.780 --> 47:46.780]  of a statute that does not include incarceration?
[47:46.780 --> 47:53.780]  In this particular instance, because the courts claim that it does not carry a term of imprisonment,
[47:53.780 --> 48:02.780]  they forego a lot of your rights you'd otherwise have, like discovery and appointment of counsel.
[48:02.780 --> 48:05.780]  But then on the other hand, you can be incarcerated for it.
[48:05.780 --> 48:09.780]  That seems to be somewhat paradoxical.
[48:09.780 --> 48:13.780]  Yeah, well, actually, I believe I've seen a court ruling that says, yes, they can.
[48:13.780 --> 48:20.780]  Just because it's not a part of the punishment, they can incarcerate you prior to that or arrest you rather.
[48:20.780 --> 48:23.780]  Now, they can incarcerate you, but they can arrest you.
[48:23.780 --> 48:31.780]  I know that there are this case law on that, but that's the issue he should have taken back to the court.
[48:31.780 --> 48:39.780]  And always when you get the case law, you don't get the right answer if you don't ask the right question.
[48:39.780 --> 48:44.780]  So even where there's case law on the subject, if they haven't asked the right question,
[48:44.780 --> 48:46.780]  they're not going to get the right answer.
[48:46.780 --> 48:47.780]  Right.
[48:47.780 --> 48:55.780]  But now what is the question you say is always the first one that should be asked any time you're taking to court?
[48:55.780 --> 48:56.780]  Subject matter jurisdiction.
[48:56.780 --> 48:57.780]  Correct.
[48:57.780 --> 49:05.780]  If she is not a person to whom the law applies, subject matter jurisdiction does not exist.
[49:05.780 --> 49:06.780]  I agree.
[49:06.780 --> 49:08.780]  But that's a whole different issue.
[49:08.780 --> 49:11.780]  He was adjudicating the seat belt law.
[49:11.780 --> 49:12.780]  Right.
[49:12.780 --> 49:14.780]  Mistake number one.
[49:14.780 --> 49:15.780]  Yeah.
[49:15.780 --> 49:21.780]  Well, they didn't ask the right question to begin with.
[49:21.780 --> 49:23.780]  Subject matter jurisdiction should have been the first.
[49:23.780 --> 49:31.780]  But then again, the attorney is most often in a case like this following the direction of the client.
[49:31.780 --> 49:36.780]  The client in this case had the funds to adjudicate the case.
[49:36.780 --> 49:44.780]  So he adjudicated the issue the client wanted to adjudicate.
[49:44.780 --> 49:54.780]  And it's really easy in hindsight to look back on it and say, well, you should have done this or you should have done the other.
[49:54.780 --> 49:58.780]  At the time, the seat belt law was felt relatively new.
[49:58.780 --> 50:02.780]  And this was an outrageous case.
[50:02.780 --> 50:06.780]  The officer acted outrageously.
[50:06.780 --> 50:08.780]  Absolutely.
[50:08.780 --> 50:17.780]  But the court said, yeah, but he was within the scope of his authority.
[50:17.780 --> 50:25.780]  So what we would need to do is go to the legislature and address the scope.
[50:25.780 --> 50:31.780]  Well, here's another thing about the scope of what they do in Texas and several other states I completely disagree with.
[50:31.780 --> 50:43.780]  That is the statutory statement that you do not have the right to resist an unlawful arrest even if the officer knows it is unlawful.
[50:43.780 --> 50:46.780]  Now, that right there I've got a real problem with.
[50:46.780 --> 50:49.780]  And that's exactly what they do in these cases.
[50:49.780 --> 50:56.780]  If these officers are deemed to know the law, then they know this law does not apply to those against which they're using it.
[50:56.780 --> 51:00.780]  And if that's the case, it's a knowingly unlawful arrest.
[51:00.780 --> 51:03.780]  Well, that's treason.
[51:03.780 --> 51:05.780]  That's treason.
[51:05.780 --> 51:08.780]  We should go for the officer for that.
[51:08.780 --> 51:17.780]  But as to resisting arrest, that's always a near-death experience.
[51:17.780 --> 51:32.780]  Well, you know what I find a problem with, though, is it states very specifically that you can resist only if the officer is using a force in excess of the necessary force to secure the arrest.
[51:32.780 --> 51:41.780]  Now, you know as well as I do, anytime you resist an arrest, no matter what that officer's doing, they're going to scream it was not unnecessary force.
[51:41.780 --> 51:45.780]  If for no other reason than just to protect the officer himself.
[51:45.780 --> 51:49.780]  Of course, and it goes to my primary issue.
[51:49.780 --> 52:09.780]  Take directly to a magistrate, because they get time to sit down one with the other and carefully calculate how to structure their testimony so that it protects them from any wrongdoing they may perpetrate.
[52:09.780 --> 52:21.780]  If they were to take you directly to the nearest magistrate and explain himself, he wouldn't have time to concoct an effective testimony.
[52:21.780 --> 52:26.780]  Well, the people at Lexington and Concord were effectively resisting arrest, too.
[52:26.780 --> 52:31.780]  Yep, in more ways than one.
[52:31.780 --> 52:34.780]  Lexington was cool.
[52:34.780 --> 52:39.780]  Do we have a caller on the line, Deborah?
[52:39.780 --> 52:43.780]  Yes, we've got George from Texas, and CJ, one of our affiliates just called in.
[52:43.780 --> 52:44.780]  I'm trying to get him back on the line.
[52:44.780 --> 52:47.780]  Let's go to George for now.
[52:47.780 --> 52:49.780]  How are you doing, Deborah?
[52:49.780 --> 52:50.780]  Can you hear me?
[52:50.780 --> 52:51.780]  Yes, very good.
[52:51.780 --> 52:52.780]  Go ahead, George.
[52:52.780 --> 52:56.780]  Sorry, my brother had a stroke in Florida.
[52:56.780 --> 52:59.780]  I just got back into town.
[52:59.780 --> 53:01.780]  Good to hear that.
[53:01.780 --> 53:03.780]  How old is your brother?
[53:03.780 --> 53:06.780]  45.
[53:06.780 --> 53:09.780]  Holy crap, now that's scary business.
[53:09.780 --> 53:14.780]  Yeah, and I couldn't get ahold of that judge or anything, but here it is, Randy.
[53:14.780 --> 53:23.780]  I just found out from my neighbor who had a former, from my former employer, he went in to go buy cigarettes, gas, and a pack of cigarettes,
[53:23.780 --> 53:34.780]  and I'm asked how he was doing. He said, oh, he's okay, but then again, they divulged personal information in my file that shouldn't have been disclosed.
[53:34.780 --> 53:36.780]  Who did?
[53:36.780 --> 53:39.780]  The clerk at my former employer's job.
[53:39.780 --> 53:41.780]  Ooh.
[53:41.780 --> 53:43.780]  Is that liable right there?
[53:43.780 --> 53:46.780]  Absolutely.
[53:46.780 --> 53:48.780]  Oh, that is, huh?
[53:48.780 --> 53:51.780]  Yes, it is.
[53:51.780 --> 54:02.780]  Now, you need to be sure that she is statutorily or contractually restricted for releasing the information.
[54:02.780 --> 54:09.780]  Well, it was the assistant manager, and the manager, the manager saw everything and walked off to her office.
[54:09.780 --> 54:11.780]  This is all on videotape.
[54:11.780 --> 54:14.780]  My neighbor got the tape.
[54:14.780 --> 54:28.780]  Well, no, what I'm saying is in order to raise the issue, how is the person restricted from releasing the information, by contract or by statute?
[54:28.780 --> 54:31.780]  Specifically, what information are we dealing with?
[54:31.780 --> 54:38.780]  Because if we're dealing with things like Social Security numbers or account numbers or anything like that, that's federal law protected.
[54:38.780 --> 54:45.780]  Yeah, that's statutory. We're not asking for the specific information, but the substantive scope and content.
[54:45.780 --> 54:51.780]  Well, it's company policy never to discuss a former employer.
[54:51.780 --> 54:57.780]  Okay, that's only company policy. That's not enforceable.
[54:57.780 --> 55:14.780]  Do you have a contract that forbids the person from, in your employment contract, is it forbidden for them to discuss information about you after you've left the company?
[55:14.780 --> 55:22.780]  Well, I think they're statutory, I mean, because when a prospective employer wants to check your former employer's reference,
[55:22.780 --> 55:27.780]  the only thing they can give is the time you were employed and are you eligible to be rehired.
[55:27.780 --> 55:29.780]  No, that's not all they can give.
[55:29.780 --> 55:47.780]  That's all they normally give because anything beyond that, they run the risk of civil litigation for libel or slander, depending on how they do it, whether they write it or they speak it.
[55:47.780 --> 55:52.780]  They normally won't give more than that because they don't want to get sued.
[55:52.780 --> 56:10.780]  But unless there's some contractual restriction or they release some information that's restricted by statute, there's not anything you can do about it if they're telling the truth.
[56:10.780 --> 56:13.780]  You can always tell the truth.
[56:13.780 --> 56:21.780]  But the thing is, they're discussing things about me being an employee, but here's the thing is, I never had a write-up.
[56:21.780 --> 56:24.780]  Nothing was ever documented as being a misconduct.
[56:24.780 --> 56:28.780]  Yeah, but that doesn't give you any legal standing.
[56:28.780 --> 56:30.780]  Oh, it doesn't give you any legal standing?
[56:30.780 --> 56:33.780]  Right. It depends on what they said.
[56:33.780 --> 56:44.780]  If what they said about you was not true, that's libel or slander. If they spoke it, it's slander. If they wrote it, it's libel.
[56:44.780 --> 56:55.780]  But if what they said was true from their perspective to the best of their knowledge, then there's not anything you can do about that.
[56:55.780 --> 56:57.780]  Oh, I see.
[56:57.780 --> 57:03.780]  That's the problem in a free country. Everybody's free.
[57:03.780 --> 57:12.780]  This is a thing that a lot of people in this culture have forgotten. Everybody thinks they're protected.
[57:12.780 --> 57:23.780]  When I was overseas, the people there talked to me about America. They were just intrigued with America and all the freedom we had.
[57:23.780 --> 57:29.780]  And I used to tell them, wait a minute, wait a minute, you don't understand.
[57:29.780 --> 57:39.780]  We're free to become rich, but we're also free to become poor.
[57:39.780 --> 57:44.780]  We're free to do anything we want, and everybody else is too.
[57:44.780 --> 57:54.780]  So it has its upside and it has its downside. And in this case, George just bumped into the downside.
[57:54.780 --> 57:55.780]  George?
[57:55.780 --> 57:56.780]  George, are you still there?
[57:56.780 --> 57:57.780]  Yeah, I am.
[57:57.780 --> 58:00.780]  You need to get that poor baby some chocolate.
[58:00.780 --> 58:01.780]  It sounds like she needs it now.
[58:01.780 --> 58:05.780]  I can tell from listening to her. She's not wound up near enough.
[58:05.780 --> 58:08.780]  Yeah, that'll make George real happy.
[58:08.780 --> 58:10.780]  I'm a grandpa. I know these things.
[58:10.780 --> 58:11.780]  I just got one more question.
[58:11.780 --> 58:16.780]  Okay, listen, listen, hold on. You're going to have to hold on because we're going to break.
[58:16.780 --> 58:20.780]  Okay, we're at the top of the hour.
[58:20.780 --> 58:27.780]  And George, you may want to call back in when you're in a little bit quieter place because we can't understand what you're saying very well.
[58:27.780 --> 58:35.780]  All right, we also have CJ from Maple Grove, Minnesota calling in, one of our AM affiliates up there.
[58:35.780 --> 58:39.780]  So we're going to go to CJ when we get back on the other side.
[58:39.780 --> 58:42.780]  I'm going to go back to George and I've got a bone to pick with CJ.
[58:42.780 --> 58:46.780]  He dropped off the line. He dropped off the line. He's too busy dealing with his kids.
[58:46.780 --> 58:49.780]  CJ, I've got a bone to pick with you. You haven't called in lately.
[58:49.780 --> 58:57.780]  Okay, he's been calling in quite a bit actually. We'll be right back.
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[01:00:14.780 --> 01:00:20.780]  Get your mouth out of your, out me all. Get out me all, man. What do you want me to do with you?
[01:00:20.780 --> 01:00:25.780]  Tell you where I'm going. Disco with me, man. You're going to sing this.
[01:00:25.780 --> 01:00:29.780]  Get your name out. Six dollars, sing half a dozen.
[01:00:29.780 --> 01:00:34.780]  Get out of here, man. Get out of here, man. Get out of here.
[01:00:34.780 --> 01:00:37.780]  Come on, get out of here, people.
[01:00:37.780 --> 01:00:45.780]  Neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of my yard.
[01:00:45.780 --> 01:00:53.780]  Neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of my yard.
[01:00:53.780 --> 01:00:59.780]  I try to do the sleeping. The dog always barking. Disturbing me, but I'm flexing.
[01:00:59.780 --> 01:01:03.780]  Neighbor dog, don't stop it. I give them some market cats.
[01:01:03.780 --> 01:01:07.780]  Chocolate can't keep it. How could that be true?
[01:01:07.780 --> 01:01:11.780]  Now we can't do backing. Neighbor come and argue with.
[01:01:11.780 --> 01:01:15.780]  Tell me, how did that mix in? Tell me, neighbor, what's happening?
[01:01:15.780 --> 01:01:17.780]  Six dollars, sing half a dozen.
[01:01:17.780 --> 01:01:20.780]  Get your name out. Six dollars, sing half a dozen.
[01:01:20.780 --> 01:01:23.780]  Get your dog out of here. Out with me backyard.
[01:01:23.780 --> 01:01:33.780]  He's disturbing me, but tell him, neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of me backyard.
[01:01:33.780 --> 01:01:41.780]  Neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of me backyard.
[01:01:41.780 --> 01:01:45.780]  I gave him sponge and eat it. Gave him red and eat it.
[01:01:45.780 --> 01:01:49.780]  Watch out these outside guests and wouldn't stop from barking.
[01:01:49.780 --> 01:01:53.780]  Fasting, neighbor, creeping. Looking over, seeking.
[01:01:53.780 --> 01:01:57.780]  Your dog in my yard yard barking. Disturbing.
[01:01:57.780 --> 01:02:01.780]  When did you start sleeping? Your dog started barking.
[01:02:01.780 --> 01:02:05.780]  You used to run me crowing. I went sing half a dozen.
[01:02:05.780 --> 01:02:09.780]  You know that's how you run things. With me you still argue it.
[01:02:09.780 --> 01:02:12.780]  Tell me how you like it. How you like it.
[01:02:12.780 --> 01:02:14.780]  Okay, we are back. The rule of law.
[01:02:14.780 --> 01:02:18.780]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, Michael Baden-Erick.
[01:02:18.780 --> 01:02:23.780]  We've got more and more people who are sending us emails about the seminar.
[01:02:23.780 --> 01:02:26.780]  So it looks like it's going to happen for sure.
[01:02:26.780 --> 01:02:33.780]  We just need to get as many people signing up and showing us interest as possible and we'll be able to set a date.
[01:02:33.780 --> 01:02:37.780]  I'll be explaining more about that on Thursday.
[01:02:37.780 --> 01:02:43.780]  So right now we are going to go to CJ in Maple Grove, one of our affiliates.
[01:02:43.780 --> 01:02:46.780]  CJ, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight?
[01:02:46.780 --> 01:02:50.780]  Thanks for broadcasting us up there in Minneapolis.
[01:02:50.780 --> 01:02:53.780]  Hey, what's going on, guys?
[01:02:53.780 --> 01:02:56.780]  Hey, you got a bone to pick with me, Randy?
[01:02:56.780 --> 01:02:59.780]  Yeah, I haven't heard you on our show in a long time.
[01:02:59.780 --> 01:03:03.780]  Randy's upset that you're calling into all the other shows on the network but ours or something.
[01:03:03.780 --> 01:03:08.780]  All those chumps.
[01:03:08.780 --> 01:03:11.780]  Now I had fun with you. I'm going to bring you my avalanche.
[01:03:11.780 --> 01:03:18.780]  Well, he probably hasn't been bothering to call into our show because I've been talking to him on the phone off the air.
[01:03:18.780 --> 01:03:23.780]  Yeah, I was wondering the other day what happened to you because I hadn't heard from you in so long.
[01:03:23.780 --> 01:03:26.780]  Actually, I got a case coming up here in November.
[01:03:26.780 --> 01:03:37.780]  I went in for an arraignment on that ticket that I got in a parking lot of the movie theater here in Maple Grove.
[01:03:37.780 --> 01:03:42.780]  And that's when the guy gave me the ticket, all four copies of it.
[01:03:42.780 --> 01:03:49.780]  And then a week later in the mail, he sent me a new ticket out with a letter saying, disregard the first ticket.
[01:03:49.780 --> 01:03:55.780]  And on a new ticket, it had new times, new ordinances, and everything.
[01:03:55.780 --> 01:04:03.780]  So have you found where he got subject matter jurisdiction on private property?
[01:04:03.780 --> 01:04:10.780]  Because they say in the Minnesota Constitution they have a statute to do so.
[01:04:10.780 --> 01:04:17.780]  But it's only the city ordinance that's allowing the city to have that.
[01:04:17.780 --> 01:04:24.780]  But the prosecuting attorney decided that he asked me, you know, what do you want to do here?
[01:04:24.780 --> 01:04:30.780]  And I said, well, I'd like to know what jurisdiction the court has of this matter.
[01:04:30.780 --> 01:04:33.780]  And he says, are you Christopher Dada?
[01:04:33.780 --> 01:04:37.780]  And I was like, yeah, no, that's not me.
[01:04:37.780 --> 01:04:40.780]  That's the all capital letter name.
[01:04:40.780 --> 01:04:44.780]  I'm the beneficiary for that all capital letter name.
[01:04:44.780 --> 01:04:45.780]  And he says, I don't get it.
[01:04:45.780 --> 01:04:47.780]  What do you mean?
[01:04:47.780 --> 01:04:53.780]  And I pulled out my paperwork and I served in my papers for my sovereignty.
[01:04:53.780 --> 01:04:57.780]  And then he wouldn't even talk to me.
[01:04:57.780 --> 01:04:59.780]  I love it when that happens.
[01:04:59.780 --> 01:05:03.780]  And he says, bring your sovereignty in front of the judge.
[01:05:03.780 --> 01:05:07.780]  Well, do so with a challenge to the jurisdiction.
[01:05:07.780 --> 01:05:08.780]  Well, I'm going to.
[01:05:08.780 --> 01:05:10.780]  I'm just like Joyce versus the United States.
[01:05:10.780 --> 01:05:12.780]  You get to have fun here.
[01:05:12.780 --> 01:05:13.780]  I'm going to have a blast.
[01:05:13.780 --> 01:05:18.780]  T.J., what kind of sovereignty papers were you referring to?
[01:05:18.780 --> 01:05:20.780]  What's that?
[01:05:20.780 --> 01:05:23.780]  What kind of sovereignty papers are you referring to?
[01:05:23.780 --> 01:05:25.780]  What did you end the process here?
[01:05:25.780 --> 01:05:28.780]  Well, I'm a particular party creditor.
[01:05:28.780 --> 01:05:29.780]  Okay.
[01:05:29.780 --> 01:05:34.780]  So this is the UCC1 paperwork.
[01:05:34.780 --> 01:05:35.780]  Okay.
[01:05:35.780 --> 01:05:36.780]  Tim Turner.
[01:05:36.780 --> 01:05:37.780]  I understand.
[01:05:37.780 --> 01:05:39.780]  I just, I mean, there's a lot of different things out there.
[01:05:39.780 --> 01:05:42.780]  And I was just wondering which paperwork you were using.
[01:05:42.780 --> 01:05:43.780]  Yeah.
[01:05:43.780 --> 01:05:44.780]  Yeah.
[01:05:44.780 --> 01:05:48.780]  I've got the Tim Turner's paperwork basically.
[01:05:48.780 --> 01:05:52.780]  So I could hit him with a negative affirmative challenge and counterflame him.
[01:05:52.780 --> 01:05:53.780]  Okay.
[01:05:53.780 --> 01:05:55.780]  Hit him with a lien on the prosecutor's house.
[01:05:55.780 --> 01:05:56.780]  He doesn't taste it.
[01:05:56.780 --> 01:05:59.780]  Oh, let me address that.
[01:05:59.780 --> 01:06:00.780]  Uh-huh.
[01:06:00.780 --> 01:06:03.780]  That scares the bejesus out of me.
[01:06:03.780 --> 01:06:04.780]  Yeah, me too.
[01:06:04.780 --> 01:06:05.780]  Yeah.
[01:06:05.780 --> 01:06:06.780]  That is terrifying.
[01:06:06.780 --> 01:06:15.780]  I know Wendy has filed a lot of them and frankly it terrifies me because they're calling it
[01:06:15.780 --> 01:06:17.780]  a maritime lien and I don't think it is.
[01:06:17.780 --> 01:06:19.780]  I think it's a commercial lien.
[01:06:19.780 --> 01:06:29.780]  But even if it's a commercial lien, it's really deep water because you are creating tangible
[01:06:29.780 --> 01:06:33.780]  and articulatable harm.
[01:06:33.780 --> 01:06:39.780]  And if you are not absolutely correct, they can land on you like a ton of bricks.
[01:06:39.780 --> 01:06:44.780]  Well, who's the damaged party?
[01:06:44.780 --> 01:06:51.780]  Am I the damaged party by being on private property, issued a ticket, and then reissued
[01:06:51.780 --> 01:07:00.780]  a new ticket a week later and facing money coming out of my pocket?
[01:07:00.780 --> 01:07:02.780]  It seems like I'm the damaged party.
[01:07:02.780 --> 01:07:10.780]  And where was the damaged party whenever I broke the law, evidently?
[01:07:10.780 --> 01:07:11.780]  Okay.
[01:07:11.780 --> 01:07:14.780]  I'm not saying you can't do that.
[01:07:14.780 --> 01:07:25.780]  Where I would be more comfortable is with a countersuit where you maintain that the
[01:07:25.780 --> 01:07:34.780]  city lost subject matter jurisdiction because they didn't follow the standing law, that
[01:07:34.780 --> 01:07:40.780]  he issued a citation and he did it improperly or whatever your issue is.
[01:07:40.780 --> 01:07:49.780]  And then sue them, countersue them, rather than file a lien that hasn't been, that's
[01:07:49.780 --> 01:07:55.780]  not based on a court order, based on a judgment.
[01:07:55.780 --> 01:08:00.780]  Anytime you file a lien that's not based on a judgment, now you're getting in really
[01:08:00.780 --> 01:08:02.780]  deep water.
[01:08:02.780 --> 01:08:03.780]  Well, that's here in Texas, though.
[01:08:03.780 --> 01:08:06.780]  That may not be the case in Minnesota.
[01:08:06.780 --> 01:08:10.780]  Well, they've got everything under statute and ordinances.
[01:08:10.780 --> 01:08:11.780]  Yeah.
[01:08:11.780 --> 01:08:12.780]  Minnesota law is scary.
[01:08:12.780 --> 01:08:17.780]  I used to say that Florida was the most corrupt state and nation, beginning to think it's
[01:08:17.780 --> 01:08:18.780]  Minnesota.
[01:08:18.780 --> 01:08:25.780]  But in that regard, you know, I have one caller that would call us on a pretty regular basis,
[01:08:25.780 --> 01:08:28.780]  and she terrified me.
[01:08:28.780 --> 01:08:30.780]  She's from Minnesota.
[01:08:30.780 --> 01:08:36.780]  She's in a highly contested divorce, and she's calling me, telling me about all this.
[01:08:36.780 --> 01:08:37.780]  Is this Gail?
[01:08:37.780 --> 01:08:39.780]  Gail, all this horrible stuff they're doing.
[01:08:39.780 --> 01:08:40.780]  Gail?
[01:08:40.780 --> 01:08:41.780]  I know Gail.
[01:08:41.780 --> 01:08:42.780]  I know Gail.
[01:08:42.780 --> 01:08:45.780]  Gail is kicking behind.
[01:08:45.780 --> 01:08:49.780]  Yeah, she got temporary custody of the kid.
[01:08:49.780 --> 01:08:50.780]  Yes, she did.
[01:08:50.780 --> 01:08:52.780]  And rightfully so.
[01:08:52.780 --> 01:08:57.780]  I can't tell you how pleased I am with that.
[01:08:57.780 --> 01:09:07.780]  This woman called me, and she's in court representing herself in court against her husband, who
[01:09:07.780 --> 01:09:11.780]  has eight million in his disposal.
[01:09:11.780 --> 01:09:13.780]  She's got cancer.
[01:09:13.780 --> 01:09:15.780]  She's sick.
[01:09:15.780 --> 01:09:20.780]  And she ran out of the courtroom, too, because she had to throw up.
[01:09:20.780 --> 01:09:23.780]  I chastise her about that.
[01:09:23.780 --> 01:09:27.780]  The next day, she throws up in the courtroom.
[01:09:27.780 --> 01:09:29.780]  Hopefully on the prosecutor.
[01:09:29.780 --> 01:09:30.780]  She didn't.
[01:09:30.780 --> 01:09:37.780]  But this woman went through all of this misery and hung in there, and now things are turning
[01:09:37.780 --> 01:09:39.780]  around for her.
[01:09:39.780 --> 01:09:46.780]  It's a testament to the major weakness the courts have, and the weakness is someone who
[01:09:46.780 --> 01:09:49.780]  never quits and doesn't give in.
[01:09:49.780 --> 01:09:52.780]  And my hat's off to Gail.
[01:09:52.780 --> 01:09:53.780]  Hey, Randy.
[01:09:53.780 --> 01:10:00.780]  And I just got a chat from one of our listeners saying that CJ wouldn't have to appear on
[01:10:00.780 --> 01:10:03.780]  the new ticket if he didn't sign it.
[01:10:03.780 --> 01:10:08.780]  And he could check for a warrant after the court date, and then if a warrant appeared,
[01:10:08.780 --> 01:10:11.780]  he could write them a letter pointing out that the warrant is illegal.
[01:10:11.780 --> 01:10:17.780]  That's how this listener got out of Class B already.
[01:10:17.780 --> 01:10:19.780]  Where were they from?
[01:10:19.780 --> 01:10:21.780]  Well, this was here in Texas.
[01:10:21.780 --> 01:10:26.780]  Well, here's my concern about asking someone to do that.
[01:10:26.780 --> 01:10:28.780]  They've run the risk of going to jail.
[01:10:28.780 --> 01:10:31.780]  I just talked to someone today about that very issue.
[01:10:31.780 --> 01:10:38.780]  I think this came at your instructions is why he's saying that.
[01:10:38.780 --> 01:10:40.780]  Well, yeah, okay.
[01:10:40.780 --> 01:10:42.780]  I think you instructed this listener to do that.
[01:10:42.780 --> 01:10:47.780]  That's why he's sending me a chat reminding us of that technique.
[01:10:47.780 --> 01:10:56.780]  Well, the thing is, you have to be willing to risk going to jail, being arrested and
[01:10:56.780 --> 01:10:58.780]  taken to jail and bond out when you do that.
[01:10:58.780 --> 01:11:03.780]  If they do that to me, man, I get two million, then I will hit them with a negative result.
[01:11:03.780 --> 01:11:07.780]  So, you know, if you're not concerned about going to jail, I'm not concerned about going to jail.
[01:11:07.780 --> 01:11:11.780]  I get two million a day per occurrence, per officer, per date.
[01:11:11.780 --> 01:11:13.780]  So, yeah, in those cases, yeah, go for it.
[01:11:13.780 --> 01:11:19.780]  I think it's a great thing to do because for me, Cherokee County wants to arrest me.
[01:11:19.780 --> 01:11:21.780]  I'm going to give them the option.
[01:11:21.780 --> 01:11:23.780]  Yeah, brother, knock yourself out.
[01:11:23.780 --> 01:11:29.780]  You're going to put me through jail and I'm going to have a lot of fun with your jailers and stuff.
[01:11:29.780 --> 01:11:30.780]  You know, I've been to jail before.
[01:11:30.780 --> 01:11:32.780]  It's not that big a deal.
[01:11:32.780 --> 01:11:36.780]  And when you get done, we're going to have a fight you won't believe.
[01:11:36.780 --> 01:11:47.780]  But before I advise someone to do something that runs the serious risk of having them thrown in jail,
[01:11:47.780 --> 01:11:51.780]  I want to say to them, look, you know, if you don't show up in court,
[01:11:51.780 --> 01:11:54.780]  that judge is likely not to care what the law is.
[01:11:54.780 --> 01:11:56.780]  The judge is going to file the issue a warrant.
[01:11:56.780 --> 01:11:59.780]  Well, we know not showing up for court is dishonor.
[01:11:59.780 --> 01:12:02.780]  So, you would acquiance right into the thing.
[01:12:02.780 --> 01:12:04.780]  You don't want to do that as well.
[01:12:04.780 --> 01:12:08.780]  Yeah, so show up in court and say, you guys might get to show up.
[01:12:08.780 --> 01:12:13.780]  It's a good violation to dismiss, but I think he's running under my sovereignty papers
[01:12:13.780 --> 01:12:16.780]  and he doesn't want to talk to me anymore.
[01:12:16.780 --> 01:12:19.780]  Good. I hate to talk to prosecutors anyway.
[01:12:19.780 --> 01:12:29.780]  I went to court today and the reason I was in court is I was arrested because I told the sergeant
[01:12:29.780 --> 01:12:36.780]  what part of I do not want to talk to you do you not understand.
[01:12:36.780 --> 01:12:42.780]  So, I think it's better not to talk to the prosecution.
[01:12:42.780 --> 01:12:52.780]  If the prosecution tries to talk to you, tell them, wait, wait, wait, anything you have to say, put it in writing.
[01:12:52.780 --> 01:12:57.780]  And that comes from my psychology background.
[01:12:57.780 --> 01:13:10.780]  Humans are the, we are the only articulate mammal and we expect people to communicate with us verbally.
[01:13:10.780 --> 01:13:15.780]  If I ask you a question, I expect you to answer it.
[01:13:15.780 --> 01:13:19.780]  When you don't answer it, I'm interrupted.
[01:13:19.780 --> 01:13:22.780]  Well, we may be one of the more articulate mammals.
[01:13:22.780 --> 01:13:24.780]  I mean, they've done studies on cats.
[01:13:24.780 --> 01:13:26.780]  They make over 500 different distinct sounds.
[01:13:26.780 --> 01:13:31.780]  They do, they actually do talk.
[01:13:31.780 --> 01:13:35.780]  I'm not talking about, we're not the only mammal that can communicate.
[01:13:35.780 --> 01:13:40.780]  I mean, I call making 500 different sounds pretty articulate.
[01:13:40.780 --> 01:13:42.780]  Okay, we're not cats.
[01:13:42.780 --> 01:13:45.780]  I'm just saying we're not the only ones.
[01:13:45.780 --> 01:13:49.780]  I could throw in a crass joke there, but I'm not going to.
[01:13:49.780 --> 01:14:03.780]  We can articulate clearly our positions and ideas and human beings expect that when they initiate an interaction, they will get a response back.
[01:14:03.780 --> 01:14:10.780]  When they can't get a response back directly, drives them crazy.
[01:14:10.780 --> 01:14:12.780]  That's what happened to the sergeant.
[01:14:12.780 --> 01:14:16.780]  He wanted to ask me some questions and I wouldn't answer his questions.
[01:14:16.780 --> 01:14:19.780]  It drove him crazy.
[01:14:19.780 --> 01:14:23.780]  And he did something really, really stupid.
[01:14:23.780 --> 01:14:30.780]  If you talk to him, now you're stepping into his arena.
[01:14:30.780 --> 01:14:34.780]  This is what he is very good at.
[01:14:34.780 --> 01:14:37.780]  Confrontation is what they do.
[01:14:37.780 --> 01:14:42.780]  You step into that arena, you are outclassed.
[01:14:42.780 --> 01:14:44.780]  Oh yeah, they're going to sue you.
[01:14:44.780 --> 01:14:48.780]  We've got a bunch of calls stacking up.
[01:14:48.780 --> 01:14:51.780]  CJ, did you have some other stuff for us tonight?
[01:14:51.780 --> 01:14:56.780]  Yeah, I hear you guys are having problems down there with the station.
[01:14:56.780 --> 01:15:01.780]  Well, you know, it's just the standard cat and mouse game for the FMs the same as it ever was.
[01:15:01.780 --> 01:15:06.780]  But yeah, we're definitely interested in setting up some AM stuff that you and I have been discussing.
[01:15:06.780 --> 01:15:10.780]  We just need to raise some funds for that.
[01:15:10.780 --> 01:15:16.780]  All your listeners right now, everybody listening to Rule Law Radio right now, you need to call in.
[01:15:16.780 --> 01:15:19.780]  You guys need to donate some money to these people.
[01:15:19.780 --> 01:15:24.780]  They've got to get a new station up that the FCC isn't just going to come over and shut down.
[01:15:24.780 --> 01:15:29.780]  The word that you're hearing and you guys enjoy listening as much as I do,
[01:15:29.780 --> 01:15:33.780]  and it goes for all my Minneapolis, St. Paul, Jordan, Minnesota listeners as well.
[01:15:33.780 --> 01:15:37.780]  We have over 4 million listeners here in Minneapolis.
[01:15:37.780 --> 01:15:42.780]  So by all means, if anybody needs, you know,
[01:15:42.780 --> 01:15:49.780]  or wants to keep continuing hearing the message that, you know, Deborah's got to, you know, put out on the radio,
[01:15:49.780 --> 01:15:51.780]  you need to help her out.
[01:15:51.780 --> 01:15:54.780]  She needs the funds to get this AM station.
[01:15:54.780 --> 01:15:56.780]  It's totally legal.
[01:15:56.780 --> 01:16:00.780]  The antennas are certified by the FCC, and you can't get shut down.
[01:16:00.780 --> 01:16:04.780]  Okay, CJ, when we come back from break, it's coming up pretty quick.
[01:16:04.780 --> 01:16:15.780]  Would you explain to folks what it took for you to become a broadcaster on this AM network?
[01:16:15.780 --> 01:16:20.780]  I would like to see a lot of people out here who would like to get involved in the community
[01:16:20.780 --> 01:16:27.780]  but don't have the time to give us but could set up a broadcast station.
[01:16:27.780 --> 01:16:30.780]  Yeah, what they really need to do is they need to donate money
[01:16:30.780 --> 01:16:36.780]  because it's going to be very extensive to set up a broadcast station,
[01:16:36.780 --> 01:16:39.780]  and it has to be synced up with the different transmitters all over town.
[01:16:39.780 --> 01:16:43.780]  It's not just a simple matter of, well, let's just go spend a couple grand and set up a transmitter.
[01:16:43.780 --> 01:16:47.780]  It's not like that because then frequencies are going to overlap.
[01:16:47.780 --> 01:16:48.780]  It's going to be a big problem.
[01:16:48.780 --> 01:16:51.780]  It has to be a coordinated citywide effort.
[01:16:51.780 --> 01:16:54.780]  So we can discuss that a little more on the other side.
[01:16:54.780 --> 01:16:56.780]  We'll be right back.
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[01:18:22.780 --> 01:18:27.780]  I was blindsided but now I can see your glance
[01:18:27.780 --> 01:18:30.780]  You put the fear in my pocket
[01:18:30.780 --> 01:18:32.780]  Took the money from my hand
[01:18:32.780 --> 01:18:37.780]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:18:37.780 --> 01:18:47.780]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:18:57.780 --> 01:19:02.780]  Ain't gonna drop me with that same old sucker punch
[01:19:02.780 --> 01:19:07.780]  I get it now but then I must have been out too much
[01:19:07.780 --> 01:19:12.780]  Back then you had room to move but now you're feeling the grind
[01:19:12.780 --> 01:19:37.780]  Ain't gonna get me with that same old sucker punch
[01:19:37.780 --> 01:19:42.780]  Ain't gonna please me with that same old lesson song
[01:19:42.780 --> 01:19:47.780]  You thought you were right but now you got me wrong
[01:19:47.780 --> 01:19:52.780]  It was a weak moment for me but I had the power all along
[01:19:52.780 --> 01:20:17.780]  Ain't gonna please me with that same old lesson song
[01:20:17.780 --> 01:20:22.780]  Ain't gonna bore me with that same old lesson song
[01:20:47.780 --> 01:20:52.780]  It was a weak moment for me but I had the power all along
[01:20:52.780 --> 01:20:56.780]  Ain't gonna please me with that same old lesson song
[01:20:56.780 --> 01:21:04.780]  You thought you were right but now you got me wrong
[01:21:04.780 --> 01:21:10.780]  It was a weak moment for me but I had the power all along
[01:21:10.780 --> 01:21:15.380]  So CJ is going to come on with us Thursday to discuss that situation.
[01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:20.340]  So CJ, we thank you for calling in and we're going to present the overall strategy
[01:21:20.340 --> 01:21:22.420]  to people on Thursday, all right?
[01:21:23.220 --> 01:21:24.320]  All right, sounds good.
[01:21:24.320 --> 01:21:25.520]  All right, thanks CJ.
[01:21:26.020 --> 01:21:26.620]  Yep, bye bye.
[01:21:26.620 --> 01:21:29.740]  Okay, we're going to go now to Stephen in Montana.
[01:21:30.140 --> 01:21:31.620]  Hello guys.
[01:21:31.620 --> 01:21:32.980]  Hey Stephen, thanks for calling in.
[01:21:32.980 --> 01:21:34.040]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:21:34.620 --> 01:21:38.000]  Okay, let me just brief history.
[01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:43.900]  There is, up in Lincoln County, Montana, where I'm from, there's this little group
[01:21:43.900 --> 01:21:46.380]  that kind of got together and they're called Lincoln County Watch.
[01:21:47.340 --> 01:21:51.360]  And it's just, and they're committed, and there are certain petitions
[01:21:51.360 --> 01:21:58.400]  to recall the sheriff there for not investigating rapes and other situations.
[01:21:58.400 --> 01:22:02.840]  Well, the media is really, the newspapers have really demonized this group
[01:22:02.840 --> 01:22:07.700]  and it's a bunch of older people, like half of them are women over 70.
[01:22:08.660 --> 01:22:12.180]  And anyways, they call, in the paper, they're telling that we're all a bunch
[01:22:12.180 --> 01:22:16.700]  of potential violence radicals, you know, anti-government people.
[01:22:18.240 --> 01:22:24.580]  And anyways, besides that, the town cops are kind of after the people that are involved
[01:22:24.580 --> 01:22:27.280]  and trying to set us up for stuff.
[01:22:27.280 --> 01:22:33.720]  And there's this one lady who has a blog, it's called hirikamontanannews.com,
[01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:38.720]  and she's just kind of blogging the truth, just kind of ranting and raving
[01:22:38.720 --> 01:22:40.260]  about certain things that's going on.
[01:22:41.160 --> 01:22:44.920]  And she ended up getting a death threat by an email.
[01:22:44.980 --> 01:22:51.380]  Some guy set up a fake email account and sent it to her, and it was a pretty nasty email.
[01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:56.820]  Well, I kind of just, he was talking about my friends in the email, friends that I have,
[01:22:56.820 --> 01:23:00.700]  saying that their parents molested them and stuff like that, so I automatically got up to that.
[01:23:01.100 --> 01:23:07.220]  So I emailed this guy with the same email address that he sent her with the death threat,
[01:23:08.020 --> 01:23:13.880]  and then that was like a couple weeks ago, and it only goes to Friday,
[01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:19.640]  a sheriff calls me about the email I sent him, you know,
[01:23:19.980 --> 01:23:21.920]  which is probably kind of threatening in a way.
[01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:30.400]  Anyways, he put the complaint with the cop in my county, but he was in Missoula
[01:23:30.940 --> 01:23:35.060]  at the same time, Missoula, Montana, and I'm in Oregon at the moment working.
[01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:43.040]  Okay, so the cop called me from Lincoln County, and in the Montana code it says
[01:23:43.040 --> 01:23:49.940]  under this type of privacy communication is that jurisdiction is in the county
[01:23:49.940 --> 01:23:52.020]  in which it was received or the county in which it was sent.
[01:23:52.940 --> 01:23:56.580]  Okay, well this cop told me he's going to forward this to the prosecuting attorney
[01:23:56.580 --> 01:23:59.700]  in Lincoln County, which has nothing to do with anything.
[01:24:00.360 --> 01:24:09.340]  I'm wondering if I can take this off for lack of jurisdiction with prejudice if they try
[01:24:09.340 --> 01:24:13.500]  to prosecute me in Lincoln County, can they, is it possible they can move
[01:24:13.500 --> 01:24:15.060]  that over to the other county?
[01:24:15.660 --> 01:24:16.160]  Yes.
[01:24:16.700 --> 01:24:17.980]  Even after dismissal?
[01:24:17.980 --> 01:24:24.460]  Yes. If, if the court that it was in lacked subject matter jurisdiction,
[01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:27.980]  it's like that court never existed.
[01:24:30.220 --> 01:24:31.980]  You raised an interesting issue.
[01:24:32.700 --> 01:24:35.020]  You said this woman got a death threat.
[01:24:35.740 --> 01:24:36.240]  Correct.
[01:24:36.700 --> 01:24:39.060]  And you responded to the threatener.
[01:24:39.780 --> 01:24:40.280]  Right.
[01:24:42.220 --> 01:24:45.000]  So he automatically just ran it on himself, just.
[01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:46.540]  Yes, that's what I was thinking.
[01:24:46.540 --> 01:24:53.180]  Well, not necessarily just ran it on himself, but consider the possible source of the email
[01:24:53.180 --> 01:24:56.540]  to begin with, since it came up directly in the sheriff's possession,
[01:24:56.940 --> 01:24:59.940]  one of the odds is to share it for the deputy themselves that sent it.
[01:25:00.180 --> 01:25:00.680]  No, wait.
[01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:10.420]  You get to presume that if you responded to the person who made the threat and you got a response
[01:25:10.420 --> 01:25:14.100]  to your response, that it is the person who made the death threat.
[01:25:15.540 --> 01:25:16.040]  Correct.
[01:25:16.040 --> 01:25:23.940]  So you need to file a terroristic threat charge against who, whoever's coming after you.
[01:25:24.900 --> 01:25:25.400]  The sheriff?
[01:25:26.120 --> 01:25:29.220]  Yes, whoever it is, makes no difference.
[01:25:29.820 --> 01:25:34.980]  And discredit them as a witness, you need to file that with Homeland Security.
[01:25:36.620 --> 01:25:41.260]  Oh, man, I never thought I'd be excited about having Homeland Security.
[01:25:41.260 --> 01:25:46.100]  Every sword tends to have two edges.
[01:25:46.860 --> 01:25:47.360]  Yeah.
[01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:52.620]  One may be a little more blunt than the other, but you can sure knock a snot
[01:25:52.620 --> 01:25:54.020]  on somebody's head with it.
[01:25:54.540 --> 01:25:56.060]  There are instances where.
[01:25:56.060 --> 01:25:59.740]  When somebody throws a stick of dynamite at you, you can always light it and throw it back.
[01:26:00.140 --> 01:26:00.900]  Exactly.
[01:26:00.900 --> 01:26:09.920]  So file a terroristic threat charge with Homeland Security.
[01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:13.240]  They're federal, they're not going to care about this podunk sheriff.
[01:26:14.060 --> 01:26:17.460]  Okay, this isn't the sheriff, this is just the county police officer that called me.
[01:26:17.780 --> 01:26:18.500]  Oh, that's easy.
[01:26:18.500 --> 01:26:19.840]  What county police officer?
[01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:20.340]  That's.
[01:26:20.740 --> 01:26:22.100]  Yeah, that would be the sheriff.
[01:26:22.380 --> 01:26:29.060]  Yeah. But anyway, it doesn't matter who it is, if it's not a fed, the feds would be more
[01:26:29.060 --> 01:26:31.340]  than happy to get the beat up on the locals.
[01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:37.900]  Okay. Well, what's my element to the crime?
[01:26:37.900 --> 01:26:40.060]  I mean, what is, what exactly would I.
[01:26:40.060 --> 01:26:42.240]  Well, you've got to burn out a lane there, right?
[01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:47.680]  Okay. Making threats over the internet is a really big deal right now.
[01:26:48.460 --> 01:26:53.320]  And that's what Homeland Security is doing, all this jumping up and down and posturing about.
[01:26:53.620 --> 01:26:56.640]  Yeah. And it actually brings the feds into the picture anyway,
[01:26:56.640 --> 01:27:01.360]  because you're talking about interstate commerce through the internet.
[01:27:01.360 --> 01:27:09.140]  And whatever you sent to this person, you can claim that it was a sting, that you were trying
[01:27:09.140 --> 01:27:15.440]  to get whoever this was to respond to you in a way such that you could identify the person.
[01:27:15.780 --> 01:27:16.280]  Yeah.
[01:27:16.280 --> 01:27:17.100]  And it worked.
[01:27:17.100 --> 01:27:17.900]  Yeah, that's what the plan was.
[01:27:18.380 --> 01:27:19.620]  And you got them.
[01:27:19.620 --> 01:27:24.700]  So now take it to Homeland Security and bring the feds down on them,
[01:27:25.380 --> 01:27:29.360]  because the Homeland Security is getting so much bad press.
[01:27:29.360 --> 01:27:35.560]  They're likely to want to make themselves look like good guys, so give them an opportunity.
[01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:36.500]  All right.
[01:27:36.500 --> 01:27:37.880]  Well, I'm a border town.
[01:27:38.440 --> 01:27:42.520]  Well, and we have Homeland Security right in our town, directly to that office.
[01:27:43.020 --> 01:27:43.840]  Yeah, I would.
[01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:45.980]  I'd take a hard copy of the email straight there.
[01:27:46.620 --> 01:27:49.220]  I mean, this just proves the adage that I'm developing.
[01:27:49.220 --> 01:27:52.200]  I think I'm going to make t-shirts for the seminar that says this,
[01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:56.000]  and that is you can lead a cop to knowledge, but you can't make him think.
[01:27:56.180 --> 01:27:57.780]  That is good.
[01:27:57.780 --> 01:27:59.520]  I love it.
[01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:00.840]  Oh, that is good.
[01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:01.340]  I love that.
[01:28:01.340 --> 01:28:02.980]  We need to put that on a t-shirt.
[01:28:02.980 --> 01:28:03.480]  Oh, Lord.
[01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:07.580]  Okay, so should I take this lady that got the death threat with me then, too?
[01:28:08.040 --> 01:28:09.080]  Absolutely.
[01:28:09.080 --> 01:28:11.740]  She could make the, raise the allegation.
[01:28:12.440 --> 01:28:14.180]  She absolutely has standing.
[01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:15.340]  Okay.
[01:28:15.740 --> 01:28:18.300]  And I was just a perpetrator to get him to reveal himself.
[01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:19.220]  Okay.
[01:28:20.140 --> 01:28:25.580]  From my military experience, these guys are going to respond like the military.
[01:28:25.580 --> 01:28:34.880]  If I were to call the base commander as a civilian and crawl down his throat,
[01:28:36.160 --> 01:28:43.640]  he's going to call the squadron commander of whoever I'm chewing him out about and say,
[01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:51.040]  hey, I just got a call from a civilian and he's complaining to me about one of your troops.
[01:28:51.040 --> 01:28:55.320]  Well, that commander is going to be embarrassed
[01:28:55.320 --> 01:29:00.440]  because his squadron commander, his base commander had to call him.
[01:29:01.160 --> 01:29:06.620]  The base commander is not going to be belligerent or anything, but just the fact that he called.
[01:29:07.720 --> 01:29:11.280]  The squadron commander is going to call the duty section commander.
[01:29:11.280 --> 01:29:13.960]  The duty section commander is going to call the NCOIC.
[01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:18.640]  By the time it gets down to this guy, he's in big trouble.
[01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:20.040]  They don't care what happened.
[01:29:20.040 --> 01:29:26.560]  So, by going to Homeland Security, you go up to the top and get this gob of poop rolling downhill.
[01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:27.060]  Okay.
[01:29:27.060 --> 01:29:31.520]  All right, listen, Stephen, we're about to go to break.
[01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:34.160]  You can hang on the line if you have any other questions.
[01:29:34.160 --> 01:29:36.360]  All right, yeah, just one more question.
[01:29:36.360 --> 01:29:37.040]  Okay, all right.
[01:29:37.040 --> 01:29:39.760]  And then we'll go to Will in Texas and Charlie from Missouri.
[01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:41.600]  Will and Charlie, stay on the line.
[01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:42.760]  We're going to get to your calls.
[01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:46.640]  We're here with a very special guest, Michael Bennerik tonight, also Eddie Craig.
[01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:49.440]  I'm Deborah Stevens, Randy Kelton, of course.
[01:29:49.440 --> 01:29:50.840]  We will be right back.
[01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:52.240]  This is the rule of law.
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[01:30:05.440 --> 01:30:09.640]  and instability in rural financial systems, I see gold going up much higher.
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[01:31:51.440 --> 01:31:56.440]  All right, you are listening to The Rule of Law, Rainey Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig,
[01:31:56.440 --> 01:32:00.440]  Michael Badneric, very special guest Michael Badneric.
[01:32:00.440 --> 01:32:04.440]  We've got Will and Charlie hanging on waiting in the wings.
[01:32:04.440 --> 01:32:07.440]  We will get to you guys as soon as we finish up with Steven.
[01:32:07.440 --> 01:32:11.440]  Okay, so Steven, quickly, you had one more question left?
[01:32:11.440 --> 01:32:17.440]  Yeah, we're in a super small town and pretty much the guys, people in authority are after us,
[01:32:17.440 --> 01:32:19.440]  can't really go through anything.
[01:32:19.440 --> 01:32:23.440]  It would be better to file that with another Homeland Security in another area
[01:32:23.440 --> 01:32:30.440]  because I'm pretty sure that they all share the same office and stuff with the cops and everything.
[01:32:30.440 --> 01:32:35.440]  It would probably be best to go up as high as you can get.
[01:32:35.440 --> 01:32:40.440]  Go to D.C. and ask for the head of Homeland Security.
[01:32:40.440 --> 01:32:42.440]  You're not going to get the head.
[01:32:42.440 --> 01:32:47.440]  But if you're real belligerent and annoying and adamant,
[01:32:47.440 --> 01:32:51.440]  you're likely to get an aide close to the top.
[01:32:51.440 --> 01:32:55.440]  And this is something to understand about large organizations.
[01:32:55.440 --> 01:33:01.440]  The head of the organization is a political animal, and he has to be more careful.
[01:33:01.440 --> 01:33:08.440]  The president of a company has to be careful, but his secretary doesn't.
[01:33:08.440 --> 01:33:14.440]  The head of Homeland Security has to be careful, but his aide doesn't have to be near so careful.
[01:33:14.440 --> 01:33:20.440]  So you get as close to the guy, you don't want the top guy, you want the guy next to him.
[01:33:20.440 --> 01:33:24.440]  And crawl right down his throat.
[01:33:24.440 --> 01:33:27.440]  And he's going to be real annoyed about that.
[01:33:27.440 --> 01:33:30.440]  And he's going to call the people below him and say, I don't like getting these kind of calls.
[01:33:30.440 --> 01:33:33.440]  If I get more of these kind of calls, I'm going to take him to the director.
[01:33:33.440 --> 01:33:37.440]  And he can do that without losing any political clout.
[01:33:37.440 --> 01:33:39.440]  And then this will travel downhill.
[01:33:39.440 --> 01:33:44.440]  You always want to go as high as you can, and this goes to sovereignty.
[01:33:44.440 --> 01:33:54.440]  The first time I walked onto a military base as a civilian, I felt like I was the next thing to God.
[01:33:54.440 --> 01:33:58.440]  Because when I was in the military, civilians were the next thing to God.
[01:33:58.440 --> 01:34:05.440]  They could call my base commander, and when they got through with him, I was in big trouble.
[01:34:05.440 --> 01:34:12.440]  And it was an incredible experience to walk on a military base as a civilian.
[01:34:12.440 --> 01:34:15.440]  You chumps, give me any crap, Ola.
[01:34:15.440 --> 01:34:20.440]  I'm calling the base commander, and I'm crawling down his throat.
[01:34:20.440 --> 01:34:22.440]  You can do that.
[01:34:22.440 --> 01:34:27.440]  And then it's much better if it comes to these guys from outside.
[01:34:27.440 --> 01:34:31.440]  Now they have people above them they have to answer to.
[01:34:31.440 --> 01:34:32.440]  Okay.
[01:34:32.440 --> 01:34:34.440]  That'll be fun.
[01:34:34.440 --> 01:34:35.440]  Ready to try this.
[01:34:35.440 --> 01:34:36.440]  Thanks a lot, guys.
[01:34:36.440 --> 01:34:37.440]  You are most welcome.
[01:34:37.440 --> 01:34:38.440]  All right.
[01:34:38.440 --> 01:34:39.440]  Excellent.
[01:34:39.440 --> 01:34:40.440]  Thanks, Stephen.
[01:34:40.440 --> 01:34:41.440]  Okay.
[01:34:41.440 --> 01:34:42.440]  We're going to go now to Will in Texas.
[01:34:42.440 --> 01:34:44.440]  Will, thanks for calling in.
[01:34:44.440 --> 01:34:47.440]  What is your question for our guest tonight or for us?
[01:34:47.440 --> 01:34:48.440]  Hey, guys.
[01:34:48.440 --> 01:34:49.440]  How are you all doing?
[01:34:49.440 --> 01:34:50.440]  Good.
[01:34:50.440 --> 01:34:56.440]  Hey, I'm calling because I was involved in some debt resettlement and debt settlement.
[01:34:56.440 --> 01:35:04.440]  And in the middle of that, I got a cause of action letter from one of the big banks.
[01:35:04.440 --> 01:35:06.440]  And so they want to go to court.
[01:35:06.440 --> 01:35:13.440]  And they have said, well, that I have damaged them.
[01:35:13.440 --> 01:35:22.440]  And I think I don't remember how much that this particular plane got from the bailout, but...
[01:35:22.440 --> 01:35:23.440]  Wait, wait, wait.
[01:35:23.440 --> 01:35:25.440]  How long ago did you get this letter?
[01:35:25.440 --> 01:35:26.440]  Well, it's just been a few days.
[01:35:26.440 --> 01:35:27.440]  So I'm just starting to...
[01:35:27.440 --> 01:35:28.440]  Good.
[01:35:28.440 --> 01:35:29.440]  Okay.
[01:35:29.440 --> 01:35:30.440]  So you have plenty of time for an answer.
[01:35:30.440 --> 01:35:31.440]  Okay.
[01:35:31.440 --> 01:35:33.440]  Is it credit or mortgage?
[01:35:33.440 --> 01:35:34.440]  Credit.
[01:35:34.440 --> 01:35:47.440]  The people, the person who filed the cause of action, is it the servicer of the debt
[01:35:47.440 --> 01:35:51.440]  or is it the holder of the debt itself?
[01:35:51.440 --> 01:35:52.440]  Have they proved up?
[01:35:52.440 --> 01:35:56.440]  Okay, what I'm asking is, is this a law firm?
[01:35:56.440 --> 01:35:57.440]  Yes.
[01:35:57.440 --> 01:35:58.440]  Okay.
[01:35:58.440 --> 01:36:11.440]  Has the law firm produced direct evidence that it is representing the debtor or is it
[01:36:11.440 --> 01:36:13.440]  a third party debt collector?
[01:36:13.440 --> 01:36:16.440]  No, it's not a debt collector per se.
[01:36:16.440 --> 01:36:26.440]  This is a notice of suit with the original petition, discovery level, cause of action,
[01:36:26.440 --> 01:36:34.440]  granting, you know, prayer to grant for the damages and interest, blah, blah, blah.
[01:36:34.440 --> 01:36:38.440]  Because they've opened the door for countersuit.
[01:36:38.440 --> 01:36:48.440]  So you can, the interesting thing about this is once you look into civil litigation, you
[01:36:48.440 --> 01:36:54.440]  can make this very costly for them very fast.
[01:36:54.440 --> 01:36:59.440]  Did they send discovery with their petition?
[01:36:59.440 --> 01:37:00.440]  Right.
[01:37:00.440 --> 01:37:01.440]  Yeah.
[01:37:01.440 --> 01:37:02.440]  Yes.
[01:37:02.440 --> 01:37:03.440]  Okay.
[01:37:03.440 --> 01:37:06.440]  The first thing you want to do is enter a general denial.
[01:37:06.440 --> 01:37:17.440]  What I suggest you do is go down to your local district court and ask for their, they generally
[01:37:17.440 --> 01:37:23.440]  have a bound docket that will list all of the cases.
[01:37:23.440 --> 01:37:28.440]  And the cases, I'm not sure if all of them still do it.
[01:37:28.440 --> 01:37:32.440]  They may have an electronic docket, but they used to all have big books and you open the
[01:37:32.440 --> 01:37:36.440]  book and it'll list a case and it'll list all the motions filed in the case.
[01:37:36.440 --> 01:37:39.440]  It'll state the type of case and list all the motions.
[01:37:39.440 --> 01:37:42.440]  You want to find one with a lot of activity.
[01:37:42.440 --> 01:37:50.440]  You want to find cases concerning credit card, whatever your issue is, credit card, whatever
[01:37:50.440 --> 01:37:51.440]  it happens to be.
[01:37:51.440 --> 01:37:56.440]  With that court where it's been filed, with the county court that it's been filed in?
[01:37:56.440 --> 01:37:58.440]  Nah, any court in the state.
[01:37:58.440 --> 01:38:00.440]  One that's convenient to you.
[01:38:00.440 --> 01:38:05.440]  Look at cases that have been adjudicated.
[01:38:05.440 --> 01:38:08.440]  You want to find the cases that have a lot of paperwork in it.
[01:38:08.440 --> 01:38:11.440]  And just start thumbing through it.
[01:38:11.440 --> 01:38:15.440]  You will not believe the gems you'll find in there.
[01:38:15.440 --> 01:38:24.440]  You'll find tools that, you'll have people that are, have hired attorneys to represent
[01:38:24.440 --> 01:38:29.440]  them and if it's a thick case, you know, I was going through my court,
[01:38:29.440 --> 01:38:40.440]  my county's court cases and this, they opened the drawer and this one file had folders in the,
[01:38:40.440 --> 01:38:43.440]  you know, it's one of these hanging files.
[01:38:43.440 --> 01:38:49.440]  They had three of them that were about three inches thick, each one.
[01:38:49.440 --> 01:38:53.440]  I looked at that, holy crap, these guys really fought like a tiger.
[01:38:53.440 --> 01:38:58.440]  I pulled it out and it had incredible stuff in there.
[01:38:58.440 --> 01:39:03.440]  Everything the attorney could think of to file was in there.
[01:39:03.440 --> 01:39:09.440]  I just talked to my counsel today on a criminal issue and he brought up a Brady motion I filed,
[01:39:09.440 --> 01:39:13.440]  a 23 page Brady motion.
[01:39:13.440 --> 01:39:17.440]  He said, Mr. Calvin, you asked for everything under the sun.
[01:39:17.440 --> 01:39:19.440]  I said, yeah, no, isn't that a great motion?
[01:39:19.440 --> 01:39:23.440]  I found that in a court case.
[01:39:23.440 --> 01:39:26.440]  This law firm filed this motion.
[01:39:26.440 --> 01:39:29.440]  And it had everything you could think of in it.
[01:39:29.440 --> 01:39:34.440]  I was going through motions when I was first starting and I came across a case that had an
[01:39:34.440 --> 01:39:39.440]  eliminated motion in it and I said, what in the heck is that?
[01:39:39.440 --> 01:39:41.440]  And it's all the questions you can't ask.
[01:39:41.440 --> 01:39:49.440]  But just go down to the court and go to the civil section and look through their docket sheets
[01:39:49.440 --> 01:39:56.440]  and find the docket that has the most entries and ask to see that case.
[01:39:56.440 --> 01:40:01.440]  And start looking through those, the motions they filed.
[01:40:01.440 --> 01:40:04.440]  And this is where specifically in the court you just go to the...
[01:40:04.440 --> 01:40:07.440]  That's the quickest education you can ever get.
[01:40:07.440 --> 01:40:15.440]  So you just go to the county clerk and ask in, or the clerk of the court and ask in the civil section
[01:40:15.440 --> 01:40:19.440]  for the public cases.
[01:40:19.440 --> 01:40:24.440]  Understand that clerks are generally very helpful.
[01:40:24.440 --> 01:40:28.440]  The clerks are the ones I generally never have any problem with.
[01:40:28.440 --> 01:40:29.440]  All they do is file documents.
[01:40:29.440 --> 01:40:35.440]  So you go to the clerk and say, look, I've got this case and I don't know squat.
[01:40:35.440 --> 01:40:39.440]  You do have the occasional clerk though that likes to think they're the attorney.
[01:40:39.440 --> 01:40:42.440]  Yeah, but it's really easy to fix those guys.
[01:40:42.440 --> 01:40:50.440]  And if you smooth the clerk, do you have any cases on say credit card
[01:40:50.440 --> 01:40:54.440]  where there's a whole lot of stuff filed in the case?
[01:40:54.440 --> 01:40:58.440]  And generally they are extremely accommodating.
[01:40:58.440 --> 01:41:01.440]  They'll start going, I went down and had them just bringing me stuff.
[01:41:01.440 --> 01:41:04.440]  Oh, you need to look at this one and you need to look at this one.
[01:41:04.440 --> 01:41:08.440]  You treat them like they're important and they will help you out.
[01:41:08.440 --> 01:41:12.440]  All right, I just want to let you know we only have about two minutes to break here
[01:41:12.440 --> 01:41:14.440]  and we also have Charlie from Missouri on the line.
[01:41:14.440 --> 01:41:16.440]  Okay, I'll do this quickly.
[01:41:16.440 --> 01:41:20.440]  But go down to the clerk and smooth the clerk and tell her you want to see some cases
[01:41:20.440 --> 01:41:26.440]  that were really heavily adjudicated so you can get an idea how to handle this case.
[01:41:26.440 --> 01:41:35.440]  One of my questions, Randy, was if they're damaged when these banks are creating money out of thin air,
[01:41:35.440 --> 01:41:37.440]  how are they having any damages
[01:41:37.440 --> 01:41:41.440]  just getting interest over the years and years as though I've been paying interest on it?
[01:41:41.440 --> 01:41:42.440]  How can they show me?
[01:41:42.440 --> 01:41:47.440]  I mean, can I demand discovery to show me the damages?
[01:41:47.440 --> 01:41:51.440]  It's hard to answer that, you know, okay, I understand this argument,
[01:41:51.440 --> 01:42:01.440]  but the problem is you get into, especially with credit card, you received value
[01:42:01.440 --> 01:42:05.440]  and whatever they're doing, you receive this value
[01:42:05.440 --> 01:42:11.440]  and the perception is that you need to return value for value.
[01:42:11.440 --> 01:42:15.440]  This thing of them creating credit out of thin air is not going to help you
[01:42:15.440 --> 01:42:18.440]  because you're under contract.
[01:42:18.440 --> 01:42:22.440]  You're under contract understanding that they create this out of thin air.
[01:42:22.440 --> 01:42:25.440]  You receive the value, you return the value back.
[01:42:25.440 --> 01:42:30.440]  And even though they were awarded bailout money?
[01:42:30.440 --> 01:42:34.440]  Well, but now exactly the same case holds true on any type of loan, Randy.
[01:42:34.440 --> 01:42:38.440]  You're still talking the exact same legalities of a loan.
[01:42:38.440 --> 01:42:42.440]  When your signature is what creates the credit in the first place,
[01:42:42.440 --> 01:42:46.440]  then you're the one supplying the value, not the bank, not the credit card company.
[01:42:46.440 --> 01:42:50.440]  Yeah, the problem is you entered into a contract.
[01:42:50.440 --> 01:42:52.440]  You do the same thing with a loan.
[01:42:52.440 --> 01:42:55.440]  It doesn't make any difference.
[01:42:55.440 --> 01:42:57.440]  Yep, see, that doesn't make any difference.
[01:42:57.440 --> 01:42:59.440]  You entered into the contract.
[01:42:59.440 --> 01:43:03.440]  You can't say that I don't like the nature of the contract after you get in the contract.
[01:43:03.440 --> 01:43:06.440]  You're out of contract without full disclosure.
[01:43:06.440 --> 01:43:08.440]  Yeah, okay, that's what I'm saying to the caller.
[01:43:08.440 --> 01:43:12.440]  Go back and look at it and find the chinks in their armor.
[01:43:12.440 --> 01:43:14.440]  Find where they haven't followed all the steps.
[01:43:14.440 --> 01:43:16.440]  I'm sorry we went too far.
[01:43:16.440 --> 01:43:21.440]  And Charlie from Missouri, I'm sorry this was a pretty sophisticated question,
[01:43:21.440 --> 01:43:24.440]  and I didn't get there quick enough.
[01:43:24.440 --> 01:43:26.440]  Can you call back Thursday?
[01:43:26.440 --> 01:43:27.440]  I apologize.
[01:43:27.440 --> 01:43:29.440]  Are you asking Charlie to call back Thursday?
[01:43:29.440 --> 01:43:30.440]  Yeah, Charlie.
[01:43:30.440 --> 01:43:31.440]  We've still got time.
[01:43:31.440 --> 01:43:33.440]  Yeah, we have another segment.
[01:43:33.440 --> 01:43:35.440]  I'm just saying that, you know, I want to be...
[01:43:35.440 --> 01:43:36.440]  Oh, I'm looking at 21 seconds.
[01:43:36.440 --> 01:43:37.440]  Oh, I'm sorry, okay.
[01:43:37.440 --> 01:43:39.440]  I want to be considerate of our callers.
[01:43:39.440 --> 01:43:42.440]  That's all, Randy, because Charlie's been waiting for like a half an hour.
[01:43:42.440 --> 01:43:45.440]  We'll be left, and then we'll go to Charlie.
[01:43:45.440 --> 01:43:47.440]  All right, we'll be right back.
[01:43:47.440 --> 01:43:48.440]  Will, hold on.
[01:43:48.440 --> 01:43:49.440]  Charlie, hold on.
[01:43:49.440 --> 01:43:50.440]  This is the rule of law.
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[01:45:33.440 --> 01:45:34.440]  Okay, we are back.
[01:45:34.440 --> 01:45:38.440]  The rule of law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig,
[01:45:38.440 --> 01:45:40.440]  Michael Baden-Erik, of course.
[01:45:40.440 --> 01:45:44.440]  We're going to finish up with Will and then go to our caller from Missouri
[01:45:44.440 --> 01:45:47.440]  and then turn the show back over to our very special guest,
[01:45:47.440 --> 01:45:49.440]  Michael Baden-Erik, for some closing comments.
[01:45:49.440 --> 01:45:51.440]  So go ahead, Randy.
[01:45:51.440 --> 01:45:53.440]  Let's finish up with Will and then we'll go to Charlie.
[01:45:53.440 --> 01:45:56.440]  If I seem like I've spent a lot of time on this particular thing,
[01:45:56.440 --> 01:46:01.440]  it's because if there's magic, this is it.
[01:46:01.440 --> 01:46:06.440]  I didn't learn what I know from reading law books.
[01:46:06.440 --> 01:46:11.440]  I didn't learn it from scouring the Internet.
[01:46:11.440 --> 01:46:17.440]  I learned this by going down to the clerk and pulling cases
[01:46:17.440 --> 01:46:23.440]  and walking through cases that accomplished attorneys had adjudicated
[01:46:23.440 --> 01:46:26.440]  and looked at the motions they filed and read their motions,
[01:46:26.440 --> 01:46:29.440]  and I found magic in there.
[01:46:29.440 --> 01:46:35.440]  If there is a magic bullet and a shortcut, that is it.
[01:46:35.440 --> 01:46:39.440]  Go down to the court and pull their cases and schmooze the clerk,
[01:46:39.440 --> 01:46:41.440]  make the clerk your buddy.
[01:46:41.440 --> 01:46:44.440]  If you treat them with half an ounce of dignity,
[01:46:44.440 --> 01:46:47.440]  they will bend over backwards to help you,
[01:46:47.440 --> 01:46:51.440]  and if you have a specific issue like credit card,
[01:46:51.440 --> 01:46:54.440]  you pull all the cases on credit card,
[01:46:54.440 --> 01:46:59.440]  in a couple of hours you will be up to speed.
[01:46:59.440 --> 01:47:05.440]  This is absolutely the best thing you can do,
[01:47:05.440 --> 01:47:09.440]  and Will, I suggest you do just exactly that.
[01:47:09.440 --> 01:47:11.440]  Go down and look at the cases filed.
[01:47:11.440 --> 01:47:15.440]  You will find motions in there and arguments in there
[01:47:15.440 --> 01:47:19.440]  that I would never think to give you,
[01:47:19.440 --> 01:47:23.440]  that attorneys, especially you want to find the ones with lots of stuff
[01:47:23.440 --> 01:47:26.440]  because that is a client who has a lot of money
[01:47:26.440 --> 01:47:29.440]  to pay their attorney to do a lot of work,
[01:47:29.440 --> 01:47:33.440]  and you get to plagiarize that attorney's work,
[01:47:33.440 --> 01:47:35.440]  and it is perfectly legal.
[01:47:35.440 --> 01:47:37.440]  So that is what I suggest you do.
[01:47:37.440 --> 01:47:40.440]  Once you have gone through half a dozen cases,
[01:47:40.440 --> 01:47:42.440]  then when you call back,
[01:47:42.440 --> 01:47:46.440]  you will be asking some really sophisticated questions,
[01:47:46.440 --> 01:47:49.440]  and you will probably be making us all look like chumps
[01:47:49.440 --> 01:47:54.440]  because we can't keep up with you.
[01:47:54.440 --> 01:47:59.440]  You get that far along, but anyway, that sounds good.
[01:47:59.440 --> 01:48:03.440]  I just thought if there might be any other cases that were brought up
[01:48:03.440 --> 01:48:05.440]  that you all knew about.
[01:48:05.440 --> 01:48:11.440]  The thing was, in order for me to address your particular case specifically,
[01:48:11.440 --> 01:48:13.440]  especially since it is credit card,
[01:48:13.440 --> 01:48:16.440]  it would take a while to go through all the details
[01:48:16.440 --> 01:48:19.440]  and we don't have that time.
[01:48:19.440 --> 01:48:23.440]  Yes, you go down and look through some cases that have been adjudicated.
[01:48:23.440 --> 01:48:26.440]  You will be up to speed really fast.
[01:48:26.440 --> 01:48:28.440]  That works for me.
[01:48:28.440 --> 01:48:32.440]  If there is a shortcut, that is the shortcut.
[01:48:32.440 --> 01:48:35.440]  Okay, well, I will do my homework, and we will get back to you.
[01:48:35.440 --> 01:48:41.440]  Frankly, I get the motions, and I make copies of them and use them.
[01:48:41.440 --> 01:48:45.440]  The Brady motion I filed, I got another attorney wrote it.
[01:48:45.440 --> 01:48:48.440]  I just stole it.
[01:48:48.440 --> 01:48:50.440]  And it is perfectly legal because they are public documents.
[01:48:50.440 --> 01:48:53.440]  They belong to you.
[01:48:53.440 --> 01:48:54.440]  All righty.
[01:48:54.440 --> 01:48:55.440]  Well, thanks a lot.
[01:48:55.440 --> 01:48:56.440]  All right, thanks, Will.
[01:48:56.440 --> 01:48:57.440]  No, for sure.
[01:48:57.440 --> 01:48:58.440]  Bye-bye.
[01:48:58.440 --> 01:48:59.440]  Bye.
[01:48:59.440 --> 01:49:04.440]  Okay, we are going to go now to our caller, Charlie in Missouri.
[01:49:04.440 --> 01:49:05.440]  Charlie, thanks for calling in.
[01:49:05.440 --> 01:49:07.440]  What is on your mind tonight?
[01:49:07.440 --> 01:49:09.440]  Thanks for taking my call.
[01:49:09.440 --> 01:49:10.440]  I will try to be kind of brief.
[01:49:10.440 --> 01:49:12.440]  I know you are wrapping up the show.
[01:49:12.440 --> 01:49:15.440]  I have just a couple of things before I get to the subject that I wanted to say.
[01:49:15.440 --> 01:49:23.440]  First of all, I certainly did not mind waiting because I have some really good stuff to listen to.
[01:49:23.440 --> 01:49:27.440]  And then on your seminar that you have coming up, I have not heard anything,
[01:49:27.440 --> 01:49:32.440]  but I hope you guys are considering filming the whole thing kind of thing
[01:49:32.440 --> 01:49:36.440]  and maybe making it available to people like me and St. Louis who cannot get there.
[01:49:36.440 --> 01:49:37.440]  I do not know if you have any plans on that.
[01:49:37.440 --> 01:49:41.440]  Yes, what we are going to do, we are looking into setting something like that up,
[01:49:41.440 --> 01:49:47.440]  but also I am going to be setting up a sponsorship program for the seminar
[01:49:47.440 --> 01:49:53.440]  for people who may not be able to attend or who may be too far away to attend
[01:49:53.440 --> 01:49:58.440]  or may not be able to afford to attend where say if you have a group of people
[01:49:58.440 --> 01:50:01.440]  or even if you do not know a group of people,
[01:50:01.440 --> 01:50:06.440]  a group of people can sponsor one individual to go to the seminar
[01:50:06.440 --> 01:50:12.440]  and then they will be able to go back and disseminate copies of the printed materials and such.
[01:50:12.440 --> 01:50:15.440]  The only material that you will not be able to copy
[01:50:15.440 --> 01:50:18.440]  and bring back to the people who sponsored you is jurisdictionary.
[01:50:18.440 --> 01:50:20.440]  That is copyrighted material.
[01:50:20.440 --> 01:50:25.440]  So I am going to be setting up a sponsorship program for people who want to go
[01:50:25.440 --> 01:50:30.440]  but may not be able to afford to so even strangers can donate to sponsor.
[01:50:30.440 --> 01:50:35.440]  And yes, we are looking into setting up some audio and video recording,
[01:50:35.440 --> 01:50:39.440]  but like I said, we have not totally put all that together yet
[01:50:39.440 --> 01:50:43.440]  and one of the reasons I am not pushing that right now
[01:50:43.440 --> 01:50:46.440]  is because I do not want people to just sit back and say,
[01:50:46.440 --> 01:50:50.440]  oh well no big deal, I do not need to go because I can just get the video later
[01:50:50.440 --> 01:50:55.440]  because you are going to get a lot more out of the seminar if you actually go
[01:50:55.440 --> 01:50:58.440]  than if you just get a video or an audio recording of it later.
[01:50:58.440 --> 01:51:02.440]  You will get to ask us questions, you will get to meet the other listeners,
[01:51:02.440 --> 01:51:05.440]  you will get to talk to other people in person,
[01:51:05.440 --> 01:51:08.440]  you will get to attend a Q&A session afterwards
[01:51:08.440 --> 01:51:13.440]  and basically just mingle and meet with the other people that are there and us
[01:51:13.440 --> 01:51:17.440]  and you will get a tremendous amount more information if you actually go
[01:51:17.440 --> 01:51:20.440]  than if you just get the recordings later.
[01:51:20.440 --> 01:51:22.440]  But although we are going to be setting something like that up,
[01:51:22.440 --> 01:51:26.440]  the main thing that I think is going to be most effective is the sponsorship program
[01:51:26.440 --> 01:51:27.440]  that we are going to be setting up.
[01:51:27.440 --> 01:51:31.440]  So I will be posting more information about that on the website later this week.
[01:51:31.440 --> 01:51:36.440]  Yes, and if you come to the seminar itself, you will get to see my face,
[01:51:36.440 --> 01:51:42.440]  which Pastor Massad said was a face made for radio.
[01:51:42.440 --> 01:51:45.440]  So do you have any other questions Charlie?
[01:51:45.440 --> 01:51:46.440]  Yes, I did.
[01:51:46.440 --> 01:51:51.440]  The reason I call, first of all I owe you, I agree with you,
[01:51:51.440 --> 01:51:55.440]  I think everybody calls and she spends $10, so I owe you $3.
[01:51:55.440 --> 01:52:01.440]  And that's minimal for the information that we get.
[01:52:01.440 --> 01:52:08.440]  Anyway, I got my first ticket for, I'm a secured party creditor
[01:52:08.440 --> 01:52:13.440]  and I got my first ticket for running a red light and it was sent to me in a mail
[01:52:13.440 --> 01:52:17.440]  and I just had a couple of things I wanted to run by you about it.
[01:52:17.440 --> 01:52:24.440]  First of all, it says that the office, nobody signed anything,
[01:52:24.440 --> 01:52:31.440]  it's all printed out and the officer, there's a statement on here that says
[01:52:31.440 --> 01:52:34.440]  they know that false statements are punished by law
[01:52:34.440 --> 01:52:38.440]  and he has probable cause to believe that.
[01:52:38.440 --> 01:52:41.440]  He put my name in all capital letters around this red light
[01:52:41.440 --> 01:52:43.440]  and then it's got an officer's name in there.
[01:52:43.440 --> 01:52:47.440]  And my first question would be just because he can see a car,
[01:52:47.440 --> 01:52:49.440]  I mean is that really probable cause?
[01:52:49.440 --> 01:52:52.440]  But before you answer that, let me tell you a couple of other things
[01:52:52.440 --> 01:52:54.440]  because we're running out of time.
[01:52:54.440 --> 01:52:58.440]  This is in St. Louis and where they want you to send the check is in Cincinnati,
[01:52:58.440 --> 01:53:04.440]  Ohio and if you want to dispute anything, you have to send it to Phoenix, Arizona.
[01:53:04.440 --> 01:53:10.440]  So also what I did when I got that is because I sent them a...
[01:53:10.440 --> 01:53:12.440]  Is this a red light camera ticket?
[01:53:12.440 --> 01:53:13.440]  Yes, it is.
[01:53:13.440 --> 01:53:18.440]  Oh, this is good because you've got multiple states.
[01:53:18.440 --> 01:53:22.440]  Yeah, I don't understand what they did, but here's what I did.
[01:53:22.440 --> 01:53:24.440]  I sent them a verified affidavit.
[01:53:24.440 --> 01:53:32.440]  I got it notarized and it says I, my living name, and then my and Karen's address
[01:53:32.440 --> 01:53:37.440]  and personal knowledge that the all caps person wasn't driving that vehicle
[01:53:37.440 --> 01:53:41.440]  and all their description of the incident.
[01:53:41.440 --> 01:53:45.440]  And I'm just wondering all those things.
[01:53:45.440 --> 01:53:48.440]  I'm just wondering your comments on all those things I just said.
[01:53:48.440 --> 01:53:56.440]  Okay, if you are prepared to attest that you weren't driving the vehicle,
[01:53:56.440 --> 01:54:01.440]  you have a public official claiming that he has reason to believe
[01:54:01.440 --> 01:54:07.440]  and does believe that you were driving this vehicle.
[01:54:07.440 --> 01:54:14.440]  Charge him with malicious prosecution for aggravated perjury
[01:54:14.440 --> 01:54:16.440]  because you know you weren't driving the vehicle.
[01:54:16.440 --> 01:54:24.440]  You can testify that you have cause to believe,
[01:54:24.440 --> 01:54:28.440]  that you can testify that you weren't driving the vehicle at the time.
[01:54:28.440 --> 01:54:37.440]  And since they decided to have this sent to a number of different states,
[01:54:37.440 --> 01:54:42.440]  remove it to the federal court.
[01:54:42.440 --> 01:54:43.440]  To the federal court?
[01:54:43.440 --> 01:54:45.440]  Yeah, this is diversity jurisdiction.
[01:54:45.440 --> 01:54:48.440]  Make a federal case out of it.
[01:54:48.440 --> 01:54:49.440]  Yeah.
[01:54:49.440 --> 01:54:54.440]  Okay, so first of all, I guess they're going to respond to my dispute,
[01:54:54.440 --> 01:54:57.440]  which I haven't heard anything yet, my verified affidavit.
[01:54:57.440 --> 01:55:01.440]  I would assume that they're just going to, I don't know what they're going to do with that.
[01:55:01.440 --> 01:55:03.440]  Okay, you filed a verified affidavit.
[01:55:03.440 --> 01:55:04.440]  Yes.
[01:55:04.440 --> 01:55:08.440]  A verified affidavit does not move the court.
[01:55:08.440 --> 01:55:09.440]  Okay.
[01:55:09.440 --> 01:55:14.440]  They don't have to respond to a verified affidavit.
[01:55:14.440 --> 01:55:18.440]  Now if they don't respond to the verified affidavit,
[01:55:18.440 --> 01:55:24.440]  give them 30 days or 45 days and then file a motion to dismiss
[01:55:24.440 --> 01:55:31.440]  because the verified affidavit under national cash register V something or other
[01:55:31.440 --> 01:55:37.440]  is now a fact as a matter of law.
[01:55:37.440 --> 01:55:44.440]  And their failure to respond or rebut establishes what you said as facts
[01:55:44.440 --> 01:55:49.440]  as a matter of law move to dismiss with prejudice.
[01:55:49.440 --> 01:55:52.440]  Okay.
[01:55:52.440 --> 01:55:59.440]  This thing about affidavits and motions, we need to understand the difference.
[01:55:59.440 --> 01:56:06.440]  An affidavit places a statement of fact into the court.
[01:56:06.440 --> 01:56:12.440]  You state this is a fact and you give the other side opportunity to rebut.
[01:56:12.440 --> 01:56:17.440]  If they don't rebut within, I think it's 30 days in the national cash register,
[01:56:17.440 --> 01:56:21.440]  then that's an incontestable fact.
[01:56:21.440 --> 01:56:28.440]  Once that's established, you take the facts that you attested to,
[01:56:28.440 --> 01:56:37.440]  file them as judicial notice and show the law under this circumstances
[01:56:37.440 --> 01:56:45.440]  with these facts that requires a dismissal and move the court to dismiss.
[01:56:45.440 --> 01:56:46.440]  Okay.
[01:56:46.440 --> 01:56:49.440]  State the facts, state the law, state the conclusion.
[01:56:49.440 --> 01:56:52.440]  Okay, listen, yes, and also I just wanted to say
[01:56:52.440 --> 01:56:56.440]  we only have about a minute and a half left of this broadcast tonight,
[01:56:56.440 --> 01:56:59.440]  so maybe we could finish up with Charlie on Thursday
[01:56:59.440 --> 01:57:02.440]  because I want to give Michael a chance to wrap things up
[01:57:02.440 --> 01:57:04.440]  because he's our guest tonight.
[01:57:04.440 --> 01:57:05.440]  Okay.
[01:57:05.440 --> 01:57:06.440]  Thanks, Charlie.
[01:57:06.440 --> 01:57:08.440]  Charlie, quick last comment.
[01:57:08.440 --> 01:57:10.440]  No, I was just going to say that's fine.
[01:57:10.440 --> 01:57:12.440]  I'll let you know what happens here.
[01:57:12.440 --> 01:57:14.440]  Okay, yes, the bumper music literally is about to start,
[01:57:14.440 --> 01:57:16.440]  so we need to turn it back over to Michael.
[01:57:16.440 --> 01:57:19.440]  Michael, thank you so much for joining us tonight.
[01:57:19.440 --> 01:57:20.440]  So can you please?
[01:57:20.440 --> 01:57:22.440]  I always have fun on your program.
[01:57:22.440 --> 01:57:25.440]  I think that your listeners are really great.
[01:57:25.440 --> 01:57:27.440]  They bring up some great questions.
[01:57:27.440 --> 01:57:32.440]  I just want your listeners to know where to find out about my Constitution classes,
[01:57:32.440 --> 01:57:39.440]  and that is constitutionpreservation.org, constitutionpreservation.org,
[01:57:39.440 --> 01:57:46.440]  and I hope to see a lot of people from Austin at the Wyndham Hotel on Saturday, April 5th.
[01:57:46.440 --> 01:57:49.440]  Saturday, April 5th.
[01:57:49.440 --> 01:57:50.440]  Excellent.
[01:57:50.440 --> 01:57:51.440]  Coming up.
[01:57:51.440 --> 01:57:52.440]  April 5th.
[01:57:52.440 --> 01:57:55.440]  You mean September 5th.
[01:57:55.440 --> 01:57:56.440]  September 5th.
[01:57:56.440 --> 01:57:57.440]  You said April 5th.
[01:57:57.440 --> 01:57:59.440]  Okay, Saturday, September 5th.
[01:57:59.440 --> 01:58:01.440]  That's this coming Saturday.
[01:58:01.440 --> 01:58:04.440]  And what time is it starting?
[01:58:04.440 --> 01:58:06.440]  9 a.m. sharp.
[01:58:06.440 --> 01:58:07.440]  9 a.m. sharp.
[01:58:07.440 --> 01:58:10.440]  And so walk-ins are welcome, Michael?
[01:58:10.440 --> 01:58:11.440]  Sure.
[01:58:11.440 --> 01:58:13.440]  All right, this Saturday.
[01:58:13.440 --> 01:58:18.440]  All right, Michael, while you're in town, we need to go out to lunch too.
[01:58:18.440 --> 01:58:19.440]  I like it.
[01:58:19.440 --> 01:58:20.440]  Excellent.
[01:58:20.440 --> 01:58:21.440]  He's not in town.
[01:58:21.440 --> 01:58:23.440]  He's from the – he's on the East Coast.
[01:58:23.440 --> 01:58:25.440]  Okay, I said while he's in town.
[01:58:25.440 --> 01:58:26.440]  Oh, when he's in town.
[01:58:26.440 --> 01:58:27.440]  Okay.
[01:58:27.440 --> 01:58:30.440]  He obviously has to be in town in order to give his seminar, Randy.
[01:58:30.440 --> 01:58:31.440]  Good point.
[01:58:31.440 --> 01:58:32.440]  Good point.
[01:58:32.440 --> 01:58:33.440]  Okay, excellent.
[01:58:33.440 --> 01:58:34.440]  All right.
[01:58:34.440 --> 01:58:36.440]  Thank you, Michael, so much for joining us tonight.
[01:58:36.440 --> 01:58:39.440]  We look forward to seeing you this Saturday at the Wyndham.
[01:58:39.440 --> 01:58:41.440]  I-35 as your word.
[01:58:41.440 --> 01:58:42.440]  All right.
[01:58:42.440 --> 01:58:43.440]  And thank you, Eddie.
[01:58:43.440 --> 01:58:44.440]  We will be back Thursday night.
[01:58:44.440 --> 01:58:50.440]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, and Michael Badnerick.
[01:58:50.440 --> 01:58:51.440]  Hasta luego.
[01:58:51.440 --> 01:59:20.440]  All right.
[01:59:20.440 --> 01:59:21.440]  Thank you.
[01:59:50.440 --> 01:59:54.440]  Thank you.