[00:00.000 --> 00:21.920]  Okay, by popular demand, we're going into overtime mode.
[00:21.920 --> 00:28.840]  We had one caller on the board when we went into the midnight break, but now we've got
[00:28.840 --> 00:33.960]  a full call board, so folks, we are going to drive it home tonight.
[00:33.960 --> 00:39.160]  Okay, we're going to go to Gary in Texas, who's been holding for quite some time.
[00:39.160 --> 00:40.400]  Gary, thanks for calling in.
[00:40.400 --> 00:42.120]  What's on your mind tonight?
[00:42.120 --> 00:44.080]  A great show, great content.
[00:44.080 --> 00:46.440]  Yes, what's your question for our guest tonight?
[00:46.440 --> 00:47.440]  Thanks for calling.
[00:47.440 --> 00:56.120]  The question for Steve is, I am, I think I consider myself an at-arms-length observer
[00:56.120 --> 01:00.480]  in a European insured link account.
[01:00.480 --> 01:09.320]  And one of the questions that I've got is regarding the physical metals, gold and silver.
[01:09.320 --> 01:14.280]  And I think that you're totally correct that there's going to be a pullback.
[01:14.280 --> 01:25.160]  My question is, if you have a sense of timing, number one, when should we sell our physical
[01:25.160 --> 01:32.040]  holdings, and secondly, to whom should we sell our physical holdings to?
[01:32.040 --> 01:37.080]  Well, Gary, you gave me, thanks for hanging in there, by the way.
[01:37.080 --> 01:41.160]  You gave all of us a chance to have a little bit of a break.
[01:41.160 --> 01:44.480]  One of the things that I've got to warn you about, and anybody else who's calling in
[01:44.480 --> 01:49.000]  tonight, do you remember me saying I do not have a license to give financial advice?
[01:49.000 --> 01:50.000]  Sure.
[01:50.000 --> 01:51.240]  I don't know you.
[01:51.240 --> 01:55.960]  I don't know your situation, and even if I had a license, it would be grossly improper
[01:55.960 --> 02:02.600]  of me to start really telling people I don't have a chance to get to know what to do.
[02:02.600 --> 02:07.920]  For myself, I can tell you about my life and share with you what I'm doing.
[02:07.920 --> 02:12.120]  I think the pullback in the metals and the equity market is imminent.
[02:12.120 --> 02:18.640]  Now, when I say imminent, take that with a nice big pinch of salt, okay?
[02:18.640 --> 02:24.760]  The Dow could go up another 500 or 600 points, but I really believe somewhere between 9,500
[02:24.760 --> 02:28.800]  and 10,000 on the Dow is the capper for this move.
[02:28.800 --> 02:37.000]  That would put us in step-by-step for the initial sell-off and panic of 1929, the proportional
[02:37.000 --> 02:42.360]  bounce off of that, and most people aren't aware of this, but more money was lost in
[02:42.360 --> 02:48.800]  the Great Depression after the crash, not during the first crash that everybody is aware
[02:48.800 --> 02:50.280]  of from the history books.
[02:50.280 --> 02:52.360]  In 29, the market crashed.
[02:52.360 --> 02:53.800]  It bounced back.
[02:53.800 --> 02:56.400]  That was called the sucker rally.
[02:56.400 --> 03:01.280]  In history, hindsight's always 20-20, right?
[03:01.280 --> 03:05.000]  I think that's where we're at now.
[03:05.000 --> 03:11.680]  If you've been holding onto metal, like I have, I'm holding onto some metal.
[03:11.680 --> 03:14.560]  I might use a couple options.
[03:14.560 --> 03:18.440]  For every 100 ounces, I might pick up a put option.
[03:18.440 --> 03:25.640]  If I'm wrong, my put option expires worthless and my physical holdings go continuously up
[03:25.640 --> 03:31.360]  in value, and right here, this is one of these historic markers where for myself and my own
[03:31.360 --> 03:39.800]  account, if I'm right, either way I win, because if I buy the put options and the price corrects,
[03:39.800 --> 03:44.200]  I get to take the money made from the put options, and I get to buy more metal.
[03:44.200 --> 03:49.360]  Do you remember me telling you about John, and I would say, Steve, why are you pulling
[03:49.360 --> 03:52.240]  18% out?
[03:52.240 --> 03:55.880]  Because I'm going to convert that to physical.
[03:55.880 --> 04:01.080]  If my analysis is correct and we're due for a pullback, for myself, I'm going to be selling
[04:01.080 --> 04:04.680]  short a little bit of gold.
[04:04.680 --> 04:09.520]  If I did not have an account, I wouldn't necessarily sell the stuff I have.
[04:09.520 --> 04:12.280]  I wouldn't buy any more right here.
[04:12.280 --> 04:17.800]  I would keep the cash, and if I had to wait a month or two months or whatever, I'll wait
[04:17.800 --> 04:18.800]  that long.
[04:18.800 --> 04:24.120]  I'm a patient man, but I'll keep saving my money, and when I see more people going to
[04:24.120 --> 04:29.240]  the opposite side of the boat, I'll get that gone, and I'll do it with cheaper money.
[04:29.240 --> 04:33.240]  Let me ask this question in a different way.
[04:33.240 --> 04:44.840]  If you were similarly situated, would you look at purchasing put options as opposed
[04:44.840 --> 04:48.280]  to selling your physical inventory?
[04:48.280 --> 04:51.960]  For myself personally, absolutely.
[04:51.960 --> 04:57.000]  The only way you're getting my gold or my precious holdings of lead and brass are through
[04:57.000 --> 04:58.320]  my dead finger.
[04:58.320 --> 04:59.320]  Gotcha.
[04:59.320 --> 05:04.080]  Now, the next question is... Because those are precious metals, too, by
[05:04.080 --> 05:05.080]  the way.
[05:05.080 --> 05:06.080]  Right.
[05:06.080 --> 05:07.920]  I absolutely agree.
[05:07.920 --> 05:18.160]  If you were similarly situated as I would, my question is, I guess, an unknown and really
[05:18.160 --> 05:25.040]  more instinctual, and that is the sense of timing.
[05:25.040 --> 05:32.920]  When would you foresee making your move to make some serious put options, and at what
[05:32.920 --> 05:35.400]  point would your strike be?
[05:35.400 --> 05:42.120]  Well, if I was going to do it today, I want to find the best balance between premium and
[05:42.120 --> 05:43.120]  strike price.
[05:43.120 --> 05:44.120]  Right?
[05:44.120 --> 05:45.120]  Yes.
[05:45.120 --> 05:49.960]  So, the closer I go to the money, the more I have to pay for it, and the more my premium
[05:49.960 --> 05:58.160]  costs me, especially if I want to go out to, say, February.
[05:58.160 --> 06:04.480]  If I was going to put on some put options on Monday mornings open, depending on... Again,
[06:04.480 --> 06:08.880]  if the market's going up over the weekend, put options at any strike price get just a
[06:08.880 --> 06:11.000]  little fuzz cheaper.
[06:11.000 --> 06:17.120]  So, if all the numbers stayed the same all the way until Monday, and we're looking at
[06:17.120 --> 06:25.160]  a 960 close, I'm not sure what the February contract's at, but I would estimate some $900
[06:25.160 --> 06:27.520]  put options would be pretty cheap.
[06:27.520 --> 06:32.920]  Now, for myself, let me explain why I would pick that.
[06:32.920 --> 06:38.000]  If I bought the $900 put, I'm actually taking a fairly large gamble.
[06:38.000 --> 06:46.200]  I'm gambling that between the time I purchase the put option and the time I liquidate it,
[06:46.200 --> 06:51.800]  the gold will have dropped at least $100, because if I hold till expiration and it closes
[06:51.800 --> 06:56.040]  at $905, I get nothing.
[06:56.040 --> 06:57.040]  You following me?
[06:57.040 --> 06:58.040]  Totally.
[06:58.040 --> 06:59.040]  Okay.
[06:59.040 --> 07:06.200]  I think we're looking at a one to $200, maybe a little deeper, but if it does, it will be
[07:06.200 --> 07:08.760]  for a flash.
[07:08.760 --> 07:14.680]  I think we're looking at a more substantial correction, so let's say you lived in California
[07:14.680 --> 07:21.000]  and the weather was real dry, you might buy a little extra coverage for your fire insurance
[07:21.000 --> 07:27.680]  for your house just during the dry season, and that's kind of what my mentality is.
[07:27.680 --> 07:36.400]  I'm not looking to buy put options to use as a vehicle to earn income, okay?
[07:36.400 --> 07:42.400]  I'm looking for myself as put options as being a strict hedging operation.
[07:42.400 --> 07:47.000]  I have physical, if the physical goes down in price, I haven't sold it.
[07:47.000 --> 07:53.520]  I'm not trading it back in coupons anyway, but darn it, I knew it was a little pricey
[07:53.520 --> 07:58.480]  and I should have done something about it.
[07:58.480 --> 08:05.720]  If I wasn't willing to take the same risk, maybe I'd go down to 940, 930, and still go
[08:05.720 --> 08:11.720]  out to February just to give me plenty of time, because somewhere between now and the
[08:11.720 --> 08:21.160]  end of this year, we're going to see one nice little wicked sell-off, and if I'm wrong,
[08:21.160 --> 08:27.200]  which I really hope I am, because we're so close to the thousand marker, if we clear
[08:27.200 --> 08:34.560]  $968 for three consecutive days, we're going back to a little over a thousand in the blink
[08:34.560 --> 08:41.200]  of an eye, and once we get over there, you throw in, once we're past the thousand, you
[08:41.200 --> 08:48.680]  throw in one juicy bit of geopolitical news, you throw in any devaluation talk, further
[08:48.680 --> 08:56.000]  monetization talk, healthcare talk, or God forbid the Fed goes, you know, we need another
[08:56.000 --> 09:03.200]  stimulus plan because the economy is dying and the green shoots aren't even aloe, they're
[09:03.200 --> 09:10.320]  thistle, then you're going to see the market just go ballistic, and I mean ballistic.
[09:10.320 --> 09:16.620]  So we're at one of those really comfortable spots where for me as an investor, I feel
[09:16.620 --> 09:21.120]  very confident using the market just for the way I described it.
[09:21.120 --> 09:28.000]  I win either way, and you know what, son of a gun, I really like those odds.
[09:28.000 --> 09:33.760]  May I ask one other question, please, before signing off?
[09:33.760 --> 09:36.160]  Sure.
[09:36.160 --> 09:54.280]  I have just a hunch that a drop into the 600s is possible, and I'm thinking that the catalyst
[09:54.280 --> 10:04.240]  is going to be this artificially conscribed H1N1 pandemic scare tactic that's going to
[10:04.240 --> 10:09.960]  probably be very imminent around October or November.
[10:09.960 --> 10:11.840]  I would disagree with that.
[10:11.840 --> 10:13.320]  Well, possibly.
[10:13.320 --> 10:18.000]  Well, here, let me tell you why real quick, because I think I know where you're going,
[10:18.000 --> 10:23.120]  but before you get too far out on the branch, okay?
[10:23.120 --> 10:28.560]  The biggest risk we're really facing right now is public opinion.
[10:28.560 --> 10:34.520]  You know, the guys who are hosting this show and you, have you not heard a ridiculous amount
[10:34.520 --> 10:40.400]  of backroom chatter, mostly on the Internet, about how coming into this fall, there's a
[10:40.400 --> 10:48.200]  almost guaranteed devaluation of the dollar, and all these icky things are going to happen,
[10:48.200 --> 10:55.000]  and I deplore emotion when money comes into the equation, okay?
[10:55.000 --> 11:03.200]  If you bring fear or emotion, because emotion in monetary transactions is fear-based, okay?
[11:03.200 --> 11:09.440]  You bring fear into the trading room, and you are a broke individual who will not last
[11:09.440 --> 11:12.240]  and you do not have a chance, okay?
[11:12.240 --> 11:14.400]  Scared money always loses.
[11:14.400 --> 11:16.400]  Always, every single time.
[11:16.400 --> 11:24.280]  Now, when I see the amount of backroom noise, I only think one thing, SIOF, who the hell
[11:24.280 --> 11:29.160]  would stand to benefit from a whole bunch of people piling into long positions, the
[11:29.160 --> 11:36.720]  commercials that have a near record short right now, right now, tonight, right now.
[11:36.720 --> 11:42.960]  So more than the flu, more than any other trigger, we have follow the money.
[11:42.960 --> 11:49.200]  The money by the big guys with the biggest guns are short.
[11:49.200 --> 11:50.920]  What do you know that they don't?
[11:50.920 --> 11:57.040]  I'll bet it's a real short, okay?
[11:57.040 --> 12:03.920]  If that pans out to be true, then what we're looking at is a great opportunity.
[12:03.920 --> 12:07.840]  If I were somebody else listening to this program, I'd be thinking, oh my gosh, are
[12:07.840 --> 12:08.840]  you serious?
[12:08.840 --> 12:12.160]  You mean gold could drop into the 690 to 740 level?
[12:12.160 --> 12:16.040]  Hot darn, that's a great price.
[12:16.040 --> 12:17.760]  You know, it's a 30% mark off.
[12:17.760 --> 12:21.360]  If eggs were $2 a dozen, then you could buy them for $1.40.
[12:21.360 --> 12:22.360]  Why not do it?
[12:22.360 --> 12:25.840]  You're going to eat the eggs, right?
[12:25.840 --> 12:30.480]  If you're not on a, I'm going to buy gold so I could sell it for more green coupons
[12:30.480 --> 12:35.160]  later mentality, then that kind of sell-off would be right up your alley.
[12:35.160 --> 12:41.840]  That's a chance to skip a month or two or three years of acquisition, save cash, and
[12:41.840 --> 12:45.320]  go long when everybody else is freaking out.
[12:45.320 --> 12:51.600]  Remember, when everybody's on one side of the boat, I'm mixing margaritas.
[12:51.600 --> 13:01.080]  So go on with the H1 flu pandemic idea because anything can happen.
[13:01.080 --> 13:04.720]  Again, this is entertainment and education, right?
[13:04.720 --> 13:13.160]  Yeah, and you know, the one great, I'm going to call it a reality, it's not necessarily
[13:13.160 --> 13:20.520]  true, but a reality is that perception is reality.
[13:20.520 --> 13:28.040]  And whatever people perceive is going to dictate the movement in the markets.
[13:28.040 --> 13:36.520]  And unfortunately, we've got such a tremendously organized and immensely financed propaganda
[13:36.520 --> 13:43.880]  machine that tells people what to think and what to believe.
[13:43.880 --> 13:49.800]  Yet there is an underlying reality, and I'm trying to get to that reality level.
[13:49.800 --> 13:57.600]  Wait, you know when I tell people when I kind of hear this, this is where you have to remove
[13:57.600 --> 13:58.600]  your emotion.
[13:58.600 --> 14:05.200]  This is one of the most difficult and hard to pull off parts of investing.
[14:05.200 --> 14:10.600]  I don't care if you're on day one or day 30 of that exponential money thing I talked
[14:10.600 --> 14:13.760]  about with the penny.
[14:13.760 --> 14:17.480]  Everywhere in between, you have indecision.
[14:17.480 --> 14:24.360]  My big thing for myself, make a plan, stick to your plan, and just keep moving forward.
[14:24.360 --> 14:29.400]  The more time you can spend away from the TV, go kick a soccer ball, go have fun with
[14:29.400 --> 14:34.480]  your family, go read a book, and I don't mean the financial book.
[14:34.480 --> 14:39.080]  Go educate yourself on a different topic or skill or something else you wanted to learn
[14:39.080 --> 14:41.600]  to make your job better.
[14:41.600 --> 14:43.440]  Do something productive.
[14:43.440 --> 14:47.240]  Pull your head away from the quotes.
[14:47.240 --> 14:49.520]  Stop looking at the day-to-day fluctuations.
[14:49.520 --> 14:52.360]  They'll drive you mad.
[14:52.360 --> 14:58.400]  If that's something that you can't pull yourself away from, like a crackhead on payday, okay?
[14:58.400 --> 15:02.000]  The most important thing you could do is go to that website I gave out earlier.
[15:02.000 --> 15:06.760]  I don't know if you were listening, but it's jsmindset.com.
[15:06.760 --> 15:09.360]  I've been listening since 8 o'clock tonight.
[15:09.360 --> 15:10.800]  Good for you.
[15:10.800 --> 15:14.400]  You're a trooper.
[15:14.400 --> 15:15.400]  Go there.
[15:15.400 --> 15:20.120]  If you have a moment of inspiration, go to that website and let Jim coach you through
[15:20.120 --> 15:21.120]  it.
[15:21.120 --> 15:23.000]  This man is a saint.
[15:23.000 --> 15:25.960]  I don't usually plug people for no reason.
[15:25.960 --> 15:31.040]  Like I'll plug Deborah and her crew because she's spending every penny she has and every
[15:31.040 --> 15:35.720]  ounce of energy she and her husband have to help you, Gary.
[15:35.720 --> 15:37.720]  That's true.
[15:37.720 --> 15:44.480]  So anybody, again, feed the kitty once in a while and it won't bite you.
[15:44.480 --> 15:50.520]  But at the end of the day, you have to have a plan, and you've got to just stick with
[15:50.520 --> 15:51.520]  it.
[15:51.520 --> 15:55.280]  And the more background noise you hear, the more you're going to be tempted to change
[15:55.280 --> 15:56.280]  your plan.
[15:56.280 --> 15:58.920]  Don't let the bull knock you off.
[15:58.920 --> 16:01.960]  The public isn't even involved.
[16:01.960 --> 16:06.400]  When the public gets on board with what you and I and the rest of us have been talking
[16:06.400 --> 16:11.680]  about since 8 o'clock this evening, you're going to see numbers that you just will not
[16:11.680 --> 16:15.360]  believe.
[16:15.360 --> 16:21.640]  Then we'll talk about, gee, what would be a great place to sell?
[16:21.640 --> 16:25.120]  And what would you sell it for, and how would you go about it?
[16:25.120 --> 16:26.680]  And I don't even want to talk about it.
[16:26.680 --> 16:33.200]  I don't even really want to bring these things up, because why put the cart before the horse?
[16:33.200 --> 16:34.200]  Yeah.
[16:34.200 --> 16:42.680]  You know, it's something, I guess, a little strange, maybe, to some.
[16:42.680 --> 16:45.640]  And I have never had money to play with.
[16:45.640 --> 16:50.680]  I've never been gifted with the handling of money or the making of it.
[16:50.680 --> 16:53.480]  Do you have $161?
[16:53.480 --> 16:54.480]  I do.
[16:54.480 --> 16:56.240]  You're on day 15, brother.
[16:56.240 --> 17:00.440]  Yeah, I do.
[17:00.440 --> 17:07.960]  I was questioned by a very astute family member who's, by the way, done very well financially.
[17:07.960 --> 17:10.320]  How come you're not in the stock market?
[17:10.320 --> 17:14.760]  And I said, because I cannot control it at all.
[17:14.760 --> 17:24.560]  But I have decided that if I buy 50 sheep, I can put a couple of rams out there and breed
[17:24.560 --> 17:25.560]  them.
[17:25.560 --> 17:34.080]  And I know that almost without clockwork and with God's blessing, that every sheep female
[17:34.080 --> 17:39.120]  is going to produce me two lambs a year.
[17:39.120 --> 17:41.560]  You just put the crown on top.
[17:41.560 --> 17:42.560]  OK?
[17:42.560 --> 17:43.560]  Yeah.
[17:43.560 --> 17:44.820]  It's God's blessing.
[17:44.820 --> 17:48.280]  Every aspect of your life is God's blessing.
[17:48.280 --> 17:55.120]  The more you give credit and give faith and give witness to that fact, the more he says,
[17:55.120 --> 17:57.240]  hey, looks like Gary woke up.
[17:57.240 --> 17:59.040]  Maybe he's ready for some more.
[17:59.040 --> 18:00.040]  Yeah.
[18:00.040 --> 18:01.040]  Gary, listen.
[18:01.040 --> 18:06.800]  I just wanted to let everyone know that we do have about five or six other callers on
[18:06.800 --> 18:07.800]  the board.
[18:07.800 --> 18:12.000]  And so I want to be considerate of our guests and keep them up all night.
[18:12.000 --> 18:15.240]  So do you have any other questions for our guests?
[18:15.240 --> 18:19.600]  And out of respect to you and our other guests, I want to sign off and I want to thank Steve
[18:19.600 --> 18:28.500]  for his really tremendous insight and thank him for sharing what he knows tonight.
[18:28.500 --> 18:32.080]  So I'm going to sign off and I'm going to listen until we're done.
[18:32.080 --> 18:33.080]  Thank you.
[18:33.080 --> 18:34.080]  Thank you, Gary.
[18:34.080 --> 18:35.080]  You're welcome, Gary.
[18:35.080 --> 18:36.080]  Thank you.
[18:36.080 --> 18:37.080]  OK.
[18:37.080 --> 18:38.080]  And I do just have a brief announcement to make.
[18:38.080 --> 18:42.080]  I've said this before, but maybe I should, you know, regularly say this.
[18:42.080 --> 18:46.400]  I do not have a call screener right now for my show.
[18:46.400 --> 18:50.600]  Maybe somebody has stepped up to volunteer to do that, but we don't have everything set
[18:50.600 --> 18:52.220]  up, the infrastructure, the equipment.
[18:52.220 --> 18:54.160]  So that will be coming soon.
[18:54.160 --> 18:55.600]  I have to screen all the calls.
[18:55.600 --> 18:58.480]  I have to run everything, as I'm sure most people know.
[18:58.480 --> 19:05.040]  And so if you are a repeat caller, if you've called in before and your name and state is
[19:05.040 --> 19:09.120]  in the database associated with the caller ID, I'm not going to screen your call.
[19:09.120 --> 19:14.460]  I can't screen calls on my own show because if I did, I would spend the whole show screening
[19:14.460 --> 19:17.960]  calls and I wouldn't be able to follow the conversation.
[19:17.960 --> 19:22.360]  I wouldn't be able to participate in talking and follow the discussion.
[19:22.360 --> 19:26.960]  So please don't expect your call to be screened right now, especially.
[19:26.960 --> 19:28.840]  But we do see you on the board.
[19:28.840 --> 19:32.520]  The only calls I'm going to screen are first time callers so that I can get your name and
[19:32.520 --> 19:38.760]  state and give people instructions of, you know, the protocol of being on the air.
[19:38.760 --> 19:40.320]  So just want to put that out there.
[19:40.320 --> 19:42.040]  There's nothing wrong with the call board.
[19:42.040 --> 19:44.680]  There's nothing wrong with the system or the equipment.
[19:44.680 --> 19:47.240]  I just simply cannot screen calls on my own show.
[19:47.240 --> 19:49.160]  So just want to put that out there.
[19:49.160 --> 19:52.000]  And folks, let me back that up.
[19:52.000 --> 19:59.440]  If you're listening tonight and you've received education or entertainment, please go to the
[19:59.440 --> 20:04.240]  website, click the donation page and give these people something so maybe Deborah can
[20:04.240 --> 20:07.200]  get a break.
[20:07.200 --> 20:10.280]  How much do they do for you?
[20:10.280 --> 20:14.080]  How much is this place worth to you?
[20:14.080 --> 20:15.320]  Help them out.
[20:15.320 --> 20:20.080]  You guys have no idea what we have in store, what we have planned and what the Lord has
[20:20.080 --> 20:21.080]  in store.
[20:21.080 --> 20:25.400]  There's a verse in the Bible that says, you know, heart and mind.
[20:25.400 --> 20:31.200]  Man cannot comprehend or has ever been able to comprehend, it's possible to comprehend
[20:31.200 --> 20:34.120]  what God has in store for those who love him.
[20:34.120 --> 20:37.640]  And we have a lot in store for our listeners as well, okay?
[20:37.640 --> 20:43.560]  We want to really grow and expand and get this information to millions of people, all
[20:43.560 --> 20:44.560]  right?
[20:44.560 --> 20:47.880]  In order to do that, we have to have deep pockets, all right?
[20:47.880 --> 20:53.720]  And I know it's going to be slow going, but one of our ultimate long-term goals is to
[20:53.720 --> 20:58.240]  acquire a network of licensed FCC terrestrial radio stations.
[20:58.240 --> 21:05.560]  I'm talking 100,000-watt major stations like KGSR here in Austin, all right?
[21:05.560 --> 21:09.400]  In order to do that, we're talking millions, all right?
[21:09.400 --> 21:15.800]  But that's what it's going to take if we really want to make a change here and help as many
[21:15.800 --> 21:18.440]  people as possible and do the Lord's work.
[21:18.440 --> 21:24.520]  So like I said, ultimately that's a long-term goal, but we want to cut into the mainstream
[21:24.520 --> 21:28.080]  media so that we can really make a difference.
[21:28.080 --> 21:30.720]  So I know it's going to be incremental.
[21:30.720 --> 21:37.640]  We need to get syndicate, first step is to get syndication on major licensed FCC stations
[21:37.640 --> 21:39.080]  on a show-by-show basis.
[21:39.080 --> 21:46.580]  In order to syndicate our show on a major licensed FCC station, we have to have satellite
[21:46.580 --> 21:54.040]  uplink that costs $8,000 a month, and we have to have promotional and marketing strategies
[21:54.040 --> 22:01.960]  and people who are experienced in sales to shop around, promo packages to pitch our show
[22:01.960 --> 22:07.800]  to the programming directors of the stations, of licensed FCC stations.
[22:07.800 --> 22:11.480]  That's the first step is to get syndication, but in order to get syndication, we have to
[22:11.480 --> 22:18.360]  have satellite uplink because the pros are not going to pull our internet stream to broadcast
[22:18.360 --> 22:21.560]  on 100,000-watt major licensed station.
[22:21.560 --> 22:27.680]  It just does not work that way because the internet is too flaky.
[22:27.680 --> 22:28.680]  I'm sorry.
[22:28.680 --> 22:31.400]  We have to have satellite uplink.
[22:31.400 --> 22:36.080]  It costs $8,000 a month, and so that is one of our short-term goals.
[22:36.080 --> 22:41.720]  So anyway, just letting our listeners know, you know, we're not just in this because we
[22:41.720 --> 22:44.520]  think it's cool or fun, all right?
[22:44.520 --> 22:49.000]  We are doing this because we love you and we're trying to make a difference and we're
[22:49.000 --> 22:50.280]  doing the Lord's work.
[22:50.280 --> 22:52.520]  So we really appreciate the help.
[22:52.520 --> 22:55.640]  Deborah, we're in this to win this.
[22:55.640 --> 22:57.800]  Go ahead, Eddie.
[22:57.800 --> 23:03.520]  Folks just realize that, you know, if we could replace shows like Oprah and The View and
[23:03.520 --> 23:07.360]  Howard Stern with something that actually meant something and taught you something and
[23:07.360 --> 23:12.760]  was useful to day-to-day life, that would be an accomplishment within itself.
[23:12.760 --> 23:14.760]  But we can't do it without help.
[23:14.760 --> 23:19.320]  We're only financially viable up to a certain amount of money out of our own pockets, and
[23:19.320 --> 23:23.240]  after that, you know, it gets hard.
[23:23.240 --> 23:28.600]  Bills get behind, people – we have the same problems everyone else does at being able
[23:28.600 --> 23:30.960]  to maintain a lifestyle.
[23:30.960 --> 23:34.120]  So please, if you could help, help.
[23:34.120 --> 23:41.360]  Yes, and Steve gave us a really good idea on one of the breaks to do webinars, which
[23:41.360 --> 23:45.760]  would mean that we would do seminars that would be broadcast over the Internet for a
[23:45.760 --> 23:51.360]  much cheaper price so that all our listeners everywhere would be able to participate.
[23:51.360 --> 23:55.560]  So we're going to be setting that up.
[23:55.560 --> 24:02.880]  And also, we are going to be recording audio and video of the seminar to sell DVDs and
[24:02.880 --> 24:05.040]  audio CDs after the fact.
[24:05.040 --> 24:10.280]  I was actually kind of holding off on telling everyone this because I'm concerned that
[24:10.280 --> 24:13.520]  people are going to say, well, I don't have the money to go to the seminar, so I'm not
[24:13.520 --> 24:14.520]  going to go.
[24:14.520 --> 24:18.600]  I'm going to get paid for the DVD, and we really need people to actually attend.
[24:18.600 --> 24:23.600]  You will get a lot more out of it, all right, but I'm just going to go ahead and put that
[24:23.600 --> 24:26.680]  out there so people will get the information.
[24:26.680 --> 24:31.560]  But please don't balk at coming to the seminar just because you think, well, no big deal.
[24:31.560 --> 24:32.560]  I don't have to go.
[24:32.560 --> 24:36.440]  I'll just buy the DVD later because you'll get to interact with us personally.
[24:36.440 --> 24:40.160]  You'll get to interact with our other listeners.
[24:40.160 --> 24:45.280]  I guarantee you, you will get way more out of it if you come to the seminar.
[24:45.280 --> 24:47.400]  We want to meet our listeners.
[24:47.400 --> 24:50.640]  We're sitting here talking, and you guys know what we sound like.
[24:50.640 --> 24:55.080]  You guys know what we look like, but we don't know what y'all sound like and look like.
[24:55.080 --> 24:57.120]  I've been in a band for years and playing on stage.
[24:57.120 --> 24:58.480]  I see my audience.
[24:58.480 --> 25:02.280]  We can't see y'all, so we want to meet y'all, too.
[25:02.280 --> 25:03.280]  Please come out to the seminar.
[25:03.280 --> 25:07.760]  Like I said, I'm going to set up a sponsorship program for listeners to sponsor people to
[25:07.760 --> 25:08.760]  go to seminars.
[25:08.760 --> 25:11.360]  Anyway, that's all on that topic.
[25:11.360 --> 25:16.200]  I'd like to move on to some other callers, unless you have any other comments, Eddie
[25:16.200 --> 25:19.200]  or Steve or Randy?
[25:19.200 --> 25:21.240]  No, that's all I have.
[25:21.240 --> 25:22.240]  Next caller.
[25:22.240 --> 25:23.240]  Okay, next caller.
[25:23.240 --> 25:27.880]  We're going to go to Ron from California, who's called in earlier in the show and then
[25:27.880 --> 25:28.880]  dropped off.
[25:28.880 --> 25:31.720]  Ron, thank you for calling in and holding.
[25:31.720 --> 25:33.520]  What is your question for our guests?
[25:33.520 --> 25:34.520]  Okay.
[25:34.520 --> 25:39.800]  Well, for what you're doing there, and those are just a couple of simple words and they
[25:39.800 --> 25:50.160]  really don't express what I feel inside, Steve, thank you for taking your time and sharing
[25:50.160 --> 25:51.560]  with us all this information.
[25:51.560 --> 25:52.560]  You're welcome, Ron.
[25:52.560 --> 25:53.560]  You're going to help Debra?
[25:53.560 --> 25:54.560]  You bet I am.
[25:54.560 --> 25:55.560]  All right.
[25:55.560 --> 25:56.560]  Then it's worth it right there.
[25:56.560 --> 25:57.560]  Go ahead.
[25:57.560 --> 26:00.560]  That's the other thing.
[26:00.560 --> 26:08.760]  Thank you for also making the message out to the listeners, and I hope that everybody
[26:08.760 --> 26:13.280]  will at least send a little something, which is better than nothing.
[26:13.280 --> 26:17.160]  Skip a Big Mac, send a check.
[26:17.160 --> 26:18.160]  Yeah.
[26:18.160 --> 26:21.400]  I don't eat that place stuff anyway.
[26:21.400 --> 26:22.400]  You don't like downer burgers?
[26:22.400 --> 26:23.400]  Never mind.
[26:23.400 --> 26:24.400]  I'm sorry.
[26:24.400 --> 26:29.400]  I can't even stand the smell of the place.
[26:29.400 --> 26:31.640]  All right, Ron, what's your question, buddy?
[26:31.640 --> 26:32.640]  All right.
[26:32.640 --> 26:33.640]  The currency.
[26:33.640 --> 26:40.880]  I have a 91-year-old mother that I'm trying to insulate and protect the best that I can.
[26:40.880 --> 26:41.880]  No question.
[26:41.880 --> 26:47.760]  Listening to you tonight, I was like... I thought I was listening to myself so much
[26:47.760 --> 26:52.800]  things that you talked about and the corruption and everything else, and wondering and trying
[26:52.800 --> 27:01.160]  to figure out where to go, how to go, what the best place is to be at.
[27:01.160 --> 27:06.800]  The question that comes into my mind is, if you have a lot of coupons, green coupons as
[27:06.800 --> 27:14.120]  you call them, does it make sense to change those for something like a gold-back currency
[27:14.120 --> 27:16.200]  like the Swiss franc?
[27:16.200 --> 27:22.040]  Well, the Swiss franc is marginally a gold-back currency right now.
[27:22.040 --> 27:24.640]  What are we looking at, 5%, 10%?
[27:24.640 --> 27:25.640]  I don't know.
[27:25.640 --> 27:26.800]  Is that what happened to that?
[27:26.800 --> 27:31.840]  It just went down the proverbial sewer pipe?
[27:31.840 --> 27:39.440]  Well, they got on the monetary horse just like everybody else had.
[27:39.440 --> 27:51.240]  The Swiss is no longer anywhere near what it was, say, 10, 20, 30 years ago.
[27:51.240 --> 28:01.200]  Is the Swiss government better than ours fiscally without a shadow of a doubt?
[28:01.200 --> 28:09.080]  If I had 10,000 bucks, I would probably take 2,500 of my own money tomorrow morning and
[28:09.080 --> 28:15.720]  get ready to buy a Swiss-denominated annuity.
[28:15.720 --> 28:23.360]  Let's just say for myself, I decided to take 2,500 bucks of my own cash, green coupon,
[28:23.360 --> 28:30.360]  turn them in for Swiss franc coupons, and then take those Swiss franc coupons and buy a Swiss-backed
[28:30.360 --> 28:33.400]  government-guaranteed annuity.
[28:33.400 --> 28:39.920]  So I'm betting against the dollar, I'm betting on the Swiss franc, and even if I'm wrong
[28:39.920 --> 28:43.800]  in the interim, the annuity pays me an interest rate.
[28:43.800 --> 28:47.040]  Sounds like I've won either way, don't I?
[28:47.040 --> 28:50.040]  Yes, it does.
[28:50.040 --> 28:56.960]  It has making hypothetical suggestions here, as you said, and having fun.
[28:56.960 --> 28:57.960]  Right.
[28:57.960 --> 28:58.960]  Thank you.
[28:58.960 --> 28:59.960]  Because this is not advice.
[28:59.960 --> 29:06.400]  We're just throwing things around here on the table.
[29:06.400 --> 29:15.360]  So what you were saying earlier is that the market is, you believe that the market is
[29:15.360 --> 29:19.160]  going to crash and burn here worse than it did before.
[29:19.160 --> 29:20.160]  Much.
[29:20.160 --> 29:30.520]  And the sense of timing is something that's really, really difficult to predict or to
[29:30.520 --> 29:32.520]  kind of like see.
[29:32.520 --> 29:35.560]  Well, the timing is arbitrary.
[29:35.560 --> 29:41.760]  Put the emotion out of the equation, and all of a sudden the answers become very, very
[29:41.760 --> 29:43.760]  clear.
[29:43.760 --> 29:49.120]  Don't look at the day-to-day fluctuation, look at a larger trend.
[29:49.120 --> 29:55.360]  If you were riding the Dow and scared and deer-caught in the headlights routine, and
[29:55.360 --> 30:04.160]  the market was crashing, you know, last autumn up until this springtime, you know, why sit
[30:04.160 --> 30:05.880]  there and try to guess?
[30:05.880 --> 30:08.920]  The market's at a higher price than it was then, correct?
[30:08.920 --> 30:09.920]  Okay.
[30:09.920 --> 30:14.200]  So if there was any liquidation, like on my own behalf, I'd be saying, well, thank you,
[30:14.200 --> 30:18.000]  God, I got out at a much, much better price.
[30:18.000 --> 30:21.960]  So what you're saying is cut the loss.
[30:21.960 --> 30:32.120]  Well, I can't say that arbitrarily like that, but let me just tell you where I'm at.
[30:32.120 --> 30:39.200]  The only stock I own at the moment are junior mining, gold and silver mining exploration
[30:39.200 --> 30:43.200]  company, period.
[30:43.200 --> 30:53.040]  Why would I buy a share of stock on the S&P 500 when the price-to-earnings ratio is 150?
[30:53.040 --> 30:58.840]  It's buying a lemonade stand for a million five, hoping you get 10 grand a year in return.
[30:58.840 --> 31:03.360]  That is nuts.
[31:03.360 --> 31:04.360]  That's not investing.
[31:04.360 --> 31:11.920]  That's not even shooting fish in a barrel, you know, that's shooting fish in Lake Michigan.
[31:11.920 --> 31:19.680]  So in other words, it should have been with Mr. Buffett when he bought all of those instruments
[31:19.680 --> 31:26.320]  earlier in the year, because now he's up a third of a billion dollars in return already.
[31:26.320 --> 31:34.680]  Yeah, he is, but net-net, he's still a loser year over year, because Berkshire Hathaway
[31:34.680 --> 31:40.600]  got its rear end handed to it during the stock market turned up.
[31:40.600 --> 31:47.120]  Now Warren would have it in his vested interest to try to get people excited about not only
[31:47.120 --> 31:53.000]  Berkshire Hathaway, but the markets in general.
[31:53.000 --> 31:57.720]  Remember just a little while ago when I had mentioned that the insider selling is 53 to
[31:57.720 --> 31:58.720]  1?
[31:58.720 --> 31:59.720]  Yeah.
[31:59.720 --> 32:05.200]  Well, for me to cash out of a stock, I must have a buyer.
[32:05.200 --> 32:12.080]  When I was a little boy, my daddy gave me a story about the stock market, and he said,
[32:12.080 --> 32:16.160]  just be careful, because times will come in your life where you think you've got a really
[32:16.160 --> 32:20.480]  good deal, but the price is arbitrary.
[32:20.480 --> 32:28.080]  It will be set day upon day, and the only thing that sets the price is some poor sucker
[32:28.080 --> 32:35.840]  willing to purchase your product at the price you want, and you can control the buy any
[32:35.840 --> 32:37.220]  time you wish.
[32:37.220 --> 32:42.760]  You can go spend your money without blinking an eye.
[32:42.760 --> 32:45.960]  Try selling what you bought, a whole different ballgame, right?
[32:45.960 --> 32:51.280]  Yeah, you have to have a buyer on the other end, or there's no sale.
[32:51.280 --> 32:52.280]  That's for certain.
[32:52.280 --> 32:53.280]  Exactly.
[32:53.280 --> 32:58.520]  Well, now mix into that equation some of the things that we spoke about tonight, Ron.
[32:58.520 --> 33:03.040]  We have high-frequency trading.
[33:03.040 --> 33:10.240]  I implore people, please do just even 20 minutes worth of homework on this subject, and tell
[33:10.240 --> 33:13.960]  me the light bulb doesn't go on for it.
[33:13.960 --> 33:21.280]  The high-frequency trading makes up between 50% and 75% of the daily trading volume of
[33:21.280 --> 33:24.760]  all the major exchanges.
[33:24.760 --> 33:29.880]  What happens when all these algorithms all point in the same direction at the same time?
[33:29.880 --> 33:35.280]  Because everything in our life is a cycle, whether it's when does the sun come up, how
[33:35.280 --> 33:40.560]  often does your heart beat, how often do you breathe, I point at something, there's a cycle
[33:40.560 --> 33:41.560]  involved.
[33:41.560 --> 33:50.400]  If you draw out enough cycles and put them on a big giant chart somewhere, you'll see
[33:50.400 --> 33:52.040]  overlapping cycles.
[33:52.040 --> 33:55.320]  I call them windows of opportunity.
[33:55.320 --> 34:01.440]  These are the points, inflection points in time, where you have an opportunity to do
[34:01.440 --> 34:08.040]  a double, a triple, a quintuple of your equity.
[34:08.040 --> 34:15.240]  Being patient and fearless is the key to success in this game.
[34:15.240 --> 34:20.320]  If you're able to double your money just a couple more times, like 15 between now and
[34:20.320 --> 34:28.200]  the time you retire, in today's dollar-adjusted means, you would retire a multimillionaire.
[34:28.200 --> 34:33.720]  I have a feeling somewhere between now and the time I retire, I'm 42 years old.
[34:33.720 --> 34:35.400]  You're a baby.
[34:35.400 --> 34:38.920]  Yeah, just a little scrub.
[34:38.920 --> 34:45.520]  Between now and the time I retire, I can bank on a handful of things happening, as far as
[34:45.520 --> 34:53.000]  the currency valuation, the metal in the Dow Jones being the same number for one day.
[34:53.000 --> 35:01.000]  As these things occur, all I need to do is just be cognizant of where is the cycle at
[35:01.000 --> 35:02.000]  the moment?
[35:02.000 --> 35:04.440]  How many people are on the other side of the boat?
[35:04.440 --> 35:06.520]  Did they all just get there?
[35:06.520 --> 35:09.440]  If they did, maybe I'm going to wait a little longer.
[35:09.440 --> 35:14.200]  When people start coming on my side of the boat, and I've emptied out the couple pictures
[35:14.200 --> 35:19.080]  I made of margaritas, I'm going to start selling.
[35:19.080 --> 35:26.040]  Would it be correct to say that you're a contrarian when it comes to investing?
[35:26.040 --> 35:27.040]  No.
[35:27.040 --> 35:31.480]  The whole contrarian mentality is a yardstick.
[35:31.480 --> 35:32.480]  Okay.
[35:32.480 --> 35:38.080]  To me, it's a combination of different tools in a tool bag.
[35:38.080 --> 35:44.680]  If you had to pick a trade, what trade are you the most familiar with, like carpentry,
[35:44.680 --> 35:48.080]  electrical, plumbing, what?
[35:48.080 --> 35:49.080]  Me personally?
[35:49.080 --> 35:50.080]  Yeah.
[35:50.080 --> 35:51.080]  I do all of those.
[35:51.080 --> 35:52.080]  I do remodeling.
[35:52.080 --> 35:53.080]  Okay.
[35:53.080 --> 35:54.080]  What's your favorite?
[35:54.080 --> 35:58.360]  Of the group, I like finished carpentry the best.
[35:58.360 --> 35:59.360]  Okay.
[35:59.360 --> 36:05.960]  What if I bought you a brand new Hitachi 12-inch compound miter saw in a DeWalt miter stand?
[36:05.960 --> 36:07.480]  Would that help your performance?
[36:07.480 --> 36:08.480]  Sure.
[36:08.480 --> 36:09.480]  Absolutely.
[36:09.480 --> 36:10.480]  All right.
[36:10.480 --> 36:13.760]  But it's a brand new tool in your tool bag, right?
[36:13.760 --> 36:14.760]  That's correct.
[36:14.760 --> 36:21.400]  Until it's put to use, you cannot prove what its efficacy or how actually important it's
[36:21.400 --> 36:24.040]  going to be to your bottom line, right?
[36:24.040 --> 36:25.040]  That's correct.
[36:25.040 --> 36:26.040]  But it's a new tool.
[36:26.040 --> 36:27.040]  Yes.
[36:27.040 --> 36:32.520]  So every one of these new tools that you can throw in your tool bag will help your performance.
[36:32.520 --> 36:40.120]  That's what the make a plan, stick to your plan, that's what having a fearless objective,
[36:40.120 --> 36:45.360]  that's what these things are all culminating to, is you have a brand new tool in your tool
[36:45.360 --> 36:46.360]  bag.
[36:46.360 --> 36:50.120]  Now go read the manual and go let loose.
[36:50.120 --> 36:51.120]  Right.
[36:51.120 --> 37:00.360]  Now what you're speaking about, you're talking about knowledge base and certain parameters,
[37:00.360 --> 37:05.040]  if I'm hearing you correctly, that you're using, that you look at, and this is how you
[37:05.040 --> 37:08.040]  draw your conclusions?
[37:08.040 --> 37:10.760]  It's one of the tools in my tool bag, yes.
[37:10.760 --> 37:11.760]  Okay.
[37:11.760 --> 37:13.240]  But it's not the only tool.
[37:13.240 --> 37:19.200]  If you had to cut a piece of crown molding, you know, technically you could do the entire
[37:19.200 --> 37:21.360]  job with a coping cup.
[37:21.360 --> 37:22.360]  Exactly.
[37:22.360 --> 37:26.400]  It could take you a little longer and a lot more work, but you can do it.
[37:26.400 --> 37:29.240]  That's how they used to do it in the old days.
[37:29.240 --> 37:30.240]  Exactly.
[37:30.240 --> 37:37.360]  Now when I was a boy, and Debra I'm very aware of the time here, when I was a boy my dad
[37:37.360 --> 37:39.200]  told me I had no choice.
[37:39.200 --> 37:42.080]  I had to learn two trades.
[37:42.080 --> 37:48.120]  One of them had to be economics, one of them had to be something dealing with construction.
[37:48.120 --> 37:54.000]  And when I was a boy, I hated my dad for making me go through that, because not only did he
[37:54.000 --> 38:00.480]  expect me to help him, who was a third generation cabinet maker, he expected me to pick up on
[38:00.480 --> 38:06.360]  stuff from my grandmother and other sources on the world of finance.
[38:06.360 --> 38:09.400]  And for a young lad, that's quite a load to carry.
[38:09.400 --> 38:15.480]  Plus, do your schoolwork, don't get in trouble, blah, blah, blah, right?
[38:15.480 --> 38:16.480]  Yeah.
[38:16.480 --> 38:26.360]  Well, as a 42-year-old grown man with two children and literally one in the oven, I
[38:26.360 --> 38:33.480]  can't even begin to tell you how grateful I am to him for giving me that insight.
[38:33.480 --> 38:39.440]  And I hope some little part of that rubs off on you tonight, of your workload is more complicated
[38:39.440 --> 38:40.440]  than you thought.
[38:40.440 --> 38:47.960]  But the investment in you, Ron, is so worth it, it's beyond words of description.
[38:47.960 --> 38:49.880]  Well, I thank you for that.
[38:49.880 --> 38:52.840]  And believe me, your words will not go unheeded.
[38:52.840 --> 38:56.240]  That's the reason why I'm a plethora of questions, okay?
[38:56.240 --> 38:59.280]  And I just wanted to add to the story about your dad.
[38:59.280 --> 39:02.880]  Ron, can you make this one minute?
[39:02.880 --> 39:06.040]  Because we have other callers that need to ask questions.
[39:06.040 --> 39:12.000]  We are just saying that all of a sudden you realize how smart your father got overnight.
[39:12.000 --> 39:13.000]  Yep.
[39:13.000 --> 39:14.000]  Yep.
[39:14.000 --> 39:15.000]  Yes, absolutely.
[39:15.000 --> 39:16.000]  Thank you, Ron.
[39:16.000 --> 39:17.000]  We really appreciate it.
[39:17.000 --> 39:18.000]  Thank you so much.
[39:18.000 --> 39:19.000]  And thank you all.
[39:19.000 --> 39:25.720]  And I'll see if I will be sending these folks some green coupons.
[39:25.720 --> 39:26.720]  All right.
[39:26.720 --> 39:27.720]  And help us spread the word.
[39:27.720 --> 39:34.760]  We need to get our numbers boosted on Shoutcast so that we'll have something to show potential
[39:34.760 --> 39:36.240]  sponsors so we can grow.
[39:36.240 --> 39:37.240]  Great questions, Ron.
[39:37.240 --> 39:38.240]  Thank you.
[39:38.240 --> 39:39.240]  I will.
[39:39.240 --> 39:40.240]  Thank you so much, all of you folks.
[39:40.240 --> 39:41.240]  All right.
[39:41.240 --> 39:42.240]  Thank you, Ron.
[39:42.240 --> 39:43.240]  All right.
[39:43.240 --> 39:44.240]  Okay.
[39:44.240 --> 39:45.240]  Now we're going to go to Mark from Wisconsin.
[39:45.240 --> 39:46.840]  He is one of our affiliates.
[39:46.840 --> 39:51.600]  He broadcasts us on FM station in Madison, Wisconsin.
[39:51.600 --> 39:52.600]  And we thank him for that.
[39:52.600 --> 39:53.600]  Mark, thanks for calling in.
[39:53.600 --> 39:54.600]  What's on your mind tonight?
[39:54.600 --> 39:55.600]  Hi.
[39:55.600 --> 40:00.400]  I just wanted to say what a wonderful show.
[40:00.400 --> 40:02.520]  First of all, Stephen's a great guest.
[40:02.520 --> 40:06.320]  And I wanted to thank the people who bought from Survivor Seeds, the proceeds of which
[40:06.320 --> 40:08.560]  went to Rule of Law Radio.
[40:08.560 --> 40:12.400]  And I'm going to extend that for this weekend, but I won't be able to ship anything probably
[40:12.400 --> 40:17.000]  till Thursday because I'll be getting on a plane to Aruba here in a couple of hours.
[40:17.000 --> 40:18.000]  So...
[40:18.000 --> 40:19.000]  Good for you.
[40:19.000 --> 40:20.000]  Well, good for you.
[40:20.000 --> 40:21.000]  Have a good vacation.
[40:21.000 --> 40:22.000]  Yeah.
[40:22.000 --> 40:25.720]  I just wanted to thank everyone and tell you you're doing a wonderful job.
[40:25.720 --> 40:32.000]  And if anyone orders this weekend, all the proceeds will go to Rule of Law Radio again
[40:32.000 --> 40:33.000]  this weekend.
[40:33.000 --> 40:34.960]  Well, we can do it all the way up until Wednesday.
[40:34.960 --> 40:35.960]  Hey, Mark.
[40:35.960 --> 40:36.960]  Yes.
[40:36.960 --> 40:37.960]  All right.
[40:37.960 --> 40:41.400]  So, you have the heirloom seed connection?
[40:41.400 --> 40:42.400]  Yeah.
[40:42.400 --> 40:43.400]  Yeah.
[40:43.400 --> 40:44.400]  All right.
[40:44.400 --> 40:46.360]  I've got, yeah, non-GMO seeds.
[40:46.360 --> 40:52.480]  For folks, for anybody who hasn't already checked this out, I'm a little bit of a fanatic
[40:52.480 --> 40:53.480]  on two things.
[40:53.480 --> 40:55.320]  It's kind of a hobby of mine.
[40:55.320 --> 40:58.080]  One is I'm very into renewable energy.
[40:58.080 --> 41:03.840]  I've been doing this for the last 11 years, like 90 percent of my house electrically runs
[41:03.840 --> 41:08.480]  on renewable energy that I do myself, okay?
[41:08.480 --> 41:13.000]  The second other thing I'm a little fanatical about is the food and the quality of the food
[41:13.000 --> 41:14.720]  that I eat.
[41:14.720 --> 41:21.840]  One of the things that I find vital to our very survival as a nation and as a race of
[41:21.840 --> 41:26.760]  human is to diversify the food basket.
[41:26.760 --> 41:33.160]  When we have genetically modified ingredients that have no track record, no testing, no
[41:33.160 --> 41:39.800]  clear and concise results, the only thing that we can go on is what worked historically.
[41:39.800 --> 41:43.840]  If you don't know history, you are doomed to repeat it.
[41:43.840 --> 41:49.600]  Now, if Mark is out there selling heirloom quality, is any of this stuff organic?
[41:49.600 --> 41:50.600]  Yeah.
[41:50.600 --> 41:52.960]  I believe a couple of it.
[41:52.960 --> 41:57.600]  Well, the thing with organic is you have to go through all sorts of processes and jump
[41:57.600 --> 42:03.680]  through all sorts of hoops, but I would say that most of the seeds probably are organic.
[42:03.680 --> 42:06.400]  None of the seeds are treated.
[42:06.400 --> 42:14.000]  If none of the seeds are coming from genetically modified plants, if it's not true till certified
[42:14.000 --> 42:21.600]  organic, then at least it's relatively pure and how you grow that new seed is completely
[42:21.600 --> 42:22.600]  up to you.
[42:22.600 --> 42:26.560]  And the seeds have not been treated with any chemicals, is that correct?
[42:26.560 --> 42:27.560]  That's correct.
[42:27.560 --> 42:28.560]  Okay.
[42:28.560 --> 42:36.200]  So anybody who goes to Mark's website and orders these heirloom quality seeds, not only
[42:36.200 --> 42:42.320]  are you making an investment in yourself because regardless of your monetary situation, if
[42:42.320 --> 42:48.360]  you're alive tomorrow, you need to eat something, unlike shares of stock or gold and silver
[42:48.360 --> 42:54.240]  coins, you still have to provide the sustenance to carry your life through till tomorrow.
[42:54.240 --> 43:00.080]  So in one fell swoop, you can take care of your food and you can help the radio broadcast
[43:00.080 --> 43:05.960]  and its program by going and visiting Mark and go buy some of this stuff.
[43:05.960 --> 43:07.960]  What's it going to hurt you?
[43:07.960 --> 43:08.960]  Yeah.
[43:08.960 --> 43:15.000]  It's $64 for 24 different varieties and there's at least 250 seeds per item.
[43:15.000 --> 43:17.320]  And most of my competitors, I'm not in this to get rich.
[43:17.320 --> 43:19.640]  I want to help people, that's why I started it.
[43:19.640 --> 43:26.320]  But anyway, most of my competitors charge between $100 and $150 for basically the same
[43:26.320 --> 43:27.320]  set up.
[43:27.320 --> 43:29.320]  And you're doing it for how much?
[43:29.320 --> 43:30.320]  $64 total.
[43:30.320 --> 43:38.320]  So if I send you a check for $64, you're going to send me how many different quantities of
[43:38.320 --> 43:39.320]  seeds?
[43:39.320 --> 43:42.320]  I'm going to send you 8,250 seeds.
[43:42.320 --> 43:43.320]  Wow.
[43:43.320 --> 43:51.560]  8,250 heirloom seeds for $64?
[43:51.560 --> 43:52.560]  That's correct.
[43:52.560 --> 43:54.000]  Oh my God.
[43:54.000 --> 43:55.000]  You know what?
[43:55.000 --> 44:00.320]  Well, if you grew all that food to fruition, it would probably be about 10,000 bucks worth
[44:00.320 --> 44:01.320]  of food, right?
[44:01.320 --> 44:02.320]  Right.
[44:02.320 --> 44:03.320]  Right.
[44:03.320 --> 44:09.360]  I planted just a small amount of each variety in my garden this year and I've got more food
[44:09.360 --> 44:10.360]  than I...
[44:10.360 --> 44:11.360]  I'm giving food away to my neighbors.
[44:11.360 --> 44:15.600]  I've got more than I need to feed five people in my family.
[44:15.600 --> 44:17.360]  It's just a great investment.
[44:17.360 --> 44:22.960]  And the other thing, too, is they're not hybrid seeds, so they will reproduce their own seeds
[44:22.960 --> 44:27.680]  and they will grow true, too, whereas a hybrid seed won't reproduce itself.
[44:27.680 --> 44:28.680]  The seeds won't.
[44:28.680 --> 44:35.680]  Well, Mark, I just did the math on the back of the napkin here and I have 8 one thousandths
[44:35.680 --> 44:38.920]  of a penny per seed.
[44:38.920 --> 44:39.920]  There you go.
[44:39.920 --> 44:46.640]  So I can buy eight seeds for one penny and actually help the radio station at the same
[44:46.640 --> 44:47.640]  time.
[44:47.640 --> 44:48.640]  Well, mark me down.
[44:48.640 --> 44:49.640]  I'm in.
[44:49.640 --> 44:50.640]  Yeah.
[44:50.640 --> 44:51.640]  And you know what?
[44:51.640 --> 44:57.240]  I've been hearing the advertisements on some of these other Patriot networks, people selling
[44:57.240 --> 44:59.320]  these heirloom seeds.
[44:59.320 --> 45:07.960]  And when you do the math, their seeds cost anywhere from one to eight cents per seed.
[45:07.960 --> 45:11.920]  And Mark is offering eight seeds for one penny.
[45:11.920 --> 45:12.920]  Come on, people.
[45:12.920 --> 45:13.920]  Right.
[45:13.920 --> 45:20.720]  I've heard there's garden in a can and he gets most of his seeds from the same vendor
[45:20.720 --> 45:21.720]  I get.
[45:21.720 --> 45:26.080]  And on GCN, I know they sell it for around 90 or 100 bucks.
[45:26.080 --> 45:27.080]  So.
[45:27.080 --> 45:28.080]  Yeah.
[45:28.080 --> 45:29.080]  And you know what else?
[45:29.080 --> 45:35.640]  People talking about helping each other, Mark, we need to support Mark in Wisconsin, too,
[45:35.640 --> 45:41.240]  because he's one of our affiliates and he's broadcasting us on FM station in Madison,
[45:41.240 --> 45:43.400]  Wisconsin, which is a college town.
[45:43.400 --> 45:45.280]  It's a very progressive hip town.
[45:45.280 --> 45:46.280]  I've been there.
[45:46.280 --> 45:53.880]  Our band has played there before and people there are awake and can contribute to making
[45:53.880 --> 45:54.880]  a real difference.
[45:54.880 --> 45:57.720]  So we need to support our affiliates.
[45:57.720 --> 45:59.760]  And thank you for all you do, Mark.
[45:59.760 --> 46:03.560]  And I'll be getting a new antenna here in probably a month or so here.
[46:03.560 --> 46:07.040]  And it's going to double my signal.
[46:07.040 --> 46:10.520]  So hopefully we can reach even more people then.
[46:10.520 --> 46:12.120]  But anyway, I just wanted to call you.
[46:12.120 --> 46:17.520]  Thank you and extend that deal again so we can get the word out about rule of law all
[46:17.520 --> 46:18.920]  over the country.
[46:18.920 --> 46:19.920]  And thank you, Steve.
[46:19.920 --> 46:20.920]  Excellent show.
[46:20.920 --> 46:21.920]  Good night.
[46:21.920 --> 46:22.920]  Good night, Mark.
[46:22.920 --> 46:23.920]  Thank you, Mark.
[46:23.920 --> 46:24.920]  Thank you.
[46:24.920 --> 46:25.920]  OK.
[46:25.920 --> 46:32.600]  We're going to actually since it's the top of the hour for the sake of the archives,
[46:32.600 --> 46:41.840]  because we need to maintain a programming schedule for our affiliates who run archives on a regular
[46:41.840 --> 46:42.840]  basis.
[46:42.840 --> 46:46.920]  We're going to take a break at the top of the hour so our archive will be exactly 60
[46:46.920 --> 46:47.920]  minutes long.
[46:47.920 --> 46:52.600]  We're just going to take a short two, three minute break and we'll be right back.
[46:52.600 --> 46:57.760]  And we're going to go to Jesse, Karen, and Brian and finish taking your calls.
[46:57.760 --> 47:01.760]  Thank you for listening to Rule of Law Radio Network.
[47:01.760 --> 47:06.600]  Brandi Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, and our very special guest, Steve, will be
[47:06.600 --> 47:07.600]  right back.
[47:07.600 --> 47:36.600]  You love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter
[47:36.600 --> 47:59.240]  every day, you love gets sweeter every day, since I was sweet sixteen, I wanted you to
[47:59.240 --> 48:15.280]  make you my queen, then until the day you were, you're the lovin' girl that's taking
[48:15.280 --> 48:16.280]  my ass.
[48:16.280 --> 48:17.280]  You love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter
[48:17.280 --> 48:18.280]  every day.
[48:18.280 --> 48:33.920]  Now I'm glad I'm old and mad, these things are right into place, and baby if you promise
[48:33.920 --> 48:46.840]  me we can build our world together, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter
[48:46.840 --> 49:14.520]  every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day.
[49:14.520 --> 49:30.160]  You love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter
[49:30.160 --> 49:45.600]  every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love
[49:45.600 --> 50:07.720]  gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day,
[50:07.720 --> 50:30.360]  you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter
[50:30.360 --> 50:49.600]  every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love
[50:49.600 --> 51:09.000]  gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day,
[51:09.000 --> 51:24.640]  you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter
[51:24.640 --> 51:53.480]  every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love
[51:53.480 --> 52:12.960]  gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day,
[52:12.960 --> 52:33.600]  you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter every day, you love gets sweeter
[52:33.600 --> 52:35.600]  Woo-hoo!
[52:49.600 --> 52:51.600]  Hold it, now you can get high.
[52:52.600 --> 52:54.600]  Me more than all the wine.
[52:57.600 --> 53:00.600]  Hey, Mr. President, excuse me, sir.
[53:00.600 --> 53:06.600]  Would you send us a message into South Africa on the Roots Rockets?
[53:08.600 --> 53:11.600]  Send it on over to the government side.
[53:11.600 --> 53:18.600]  Tell them that we want them all to go ride on the Roots Rockets.
[53:20.600 --> 53:26.600]  Alright, my husband there, Jerry Stevens, some Route 1 music for you.
[53:26.600 --> 53:31.600]  Okay, we have three more callers on the board, Jesse, Karen, and Brian.
[53:31.600 --> 53:33.600]  Brian from Pennsylvania just called back in.
[53:33.600 --> 53:35.600]  Brian is a big supporter of the network also.
[53:35.600 --> 53:38.600]  We're going to go to Jesse first.
[53:38.600 --> 53:40.600]  He called in first.
[53:40.600 --> 53:41.600]  Jesse, thanks for calling in.
[53:41.600 --> 53:42.600]  What's on your mind tonight?
[53:42.600 --> 53:44.600]  Hi, Debra.
[53:44.600 --> 53:51.600]  I'll try to get Mark's contact information for the air loose beat.
[53:51.600 --> 54:03.600]  Go to our website, ruleoflawradio.com, and there is a link at the top of our page to get to his site.
[54:03.600 --> 54:08.600]  It's survivorseeds.com.
[54:08.600 --> 54:12.600]  Debra, he can click right on the little picture of vegetables.
[54:12.600 --> 54:18.600]  Yes, you can click right on the picture of the vegetables on our website and get to his site to order.
[54:18.600 --> 54:21.600]  Okay, great.
[54:21.600 --> 54:28.600]  And then when's a good time to come by your office to sign up for the seminar?
[54:28.600 --> 54:32.600]  Okay, well, first of all, we don't have an office.
[54:32.600 --> 54:39.600]  We don't have a studio, so to speak, for the radio network.
[54:39.600 --> 54:41.600]  Everything is done on servers.
[54:41.600 --> 54:42.600]  It's all virtual.
[54:42.600 --> 54:46.600]  The hosts broadcast from their own studios in their own locations.
[54:46.600 --> 54:50.600]  They connect over the Internet to the infrastructure.
[54:50.600 --> 54:56.600]  Everything is done on servers, which are stored in various different locations, ColoEd servers.
[54:56.600 --> 54:59.600]  So there is no main studio of the network.
[54:59.600 --> 55:01.600]  There is no office.
[55:01.600 --> 55:06.600]  But you can register by mailing us a check and sending us an email.
[55:06.600 --> 55:21.600]  And that address, the address to mail to us is 1516, that's 1516, South Lamar, number 112.
[55:21.600 --> 55:27.600]  That's number 112, Austin, Texas, 787-04.
[55:27.600 --> 55:30.600]  And please go to the website for payment instructions.
[55:30.600 --> 55:36.600]  Please do not, people do not make out a check to rule of law radio or rule of law radio network or anything like that.
[55:36.600 --> 55:39.600]  We do not have a business checking account set up at this time.
[55:39.600 --> 55:46.600]  In the banking system right now, the banks will not allow endorsement of checks made out to a business.
[55:46.600 --> 55:50.600]  You cannot endorse a check made out to a business over to a personal checking account.
[55:50.600 --> 55:55.600]  We're working on getting all that set up, LLCs and all that kind of thing.
[55:55.600 --> 56:00.600]  But right now I have to run everything through one of my personal accounts.
[56:00.600 --> 56:03.600]  So please make a check out to me, Deborah Stevens.
[56:03.600 --> 56:06.600]  And you can also pay with a credit card over PayPal.
[56:06.600 --> 56:08.600]  Okay?
[56:08.600 --> 56:11.600]  Do you have a question, a comment for our guest, Steve?
[56:11.600 --> 56:13.600]  Excellent, excellent.
[56:13.600 --> 56:14.600]  Chill tonight.
[56:14.600 --> 56:20.600]  It's been very beneficial.
[56:20.600 --> 56:21.600]  Thank you.
[56:21.600 --> 56:24.600]  Okay, thank you, Jesse.
[56:24.600 --> 56:28.600]  Okay, we're going to go to Karen in Maryland.
[56:28.600 --> 56:30.600]  Karen, thank you so much for holding.
[56:30.600 --> 56:33.600]  What is your question for our guest?
[56:33.600 --> 56:39.600]  Okay, well, I'm glad I hung on because it's very nice to hear about the seeds that you're selling.
[56:39.600 --> 56:44.600]  If the guest can't answer this, he can just tell me so and redirect me where to go.
[56:44.600 --> 56:54.600]  I have some questions about the elderly when they become unable to make decisions for themselves.
[56:54.600 --> 57:02.600]  Who else can make them for them?
[57:02.600 --> 57:07.600]  Well, Karen, I don't know if this is a topic for our guest.
[57:07.600 --> 57:14.600]  He may know of such things from what I understand.
[57:14.600 --> 57:18.600]  You need a power of attorney and perhaps a guardianship and things like this.
[57:18.600 --> 57:20.600]  Randy may be able to answer that question better.
[57:20.600 --> 57:21.600]  Maybe Eddie knows.
[57:21.600 --> 57:23.600]  Steve, do you know anything about that?
[57:23.600 --> 57:31.600]  Well, let me finish the question, if I may, because I'm not really necessarily asking about guardianship or power of attorney.
[57:31.600 --> 57:33.600]  But if that's part of the answer, that's fine.
[57:33.600 --> 57:40.600]  What I'm trying to get at is, you know, does an elderly person who can no longer make decisions for themselves,
[57:40.600 --> 57:43.600]  are they still able to divorce their spouse,
[57:43.600 --> 57:53.600]  and do they have any right to have their children care for them and have their children make decisions for them?
[57:53.600 --> 58:01.600]  Well, that would really depend on what status the family members have put that particular individual in.
[58:01.600 --> 58:08.600]  If they've had them declared mentally incompetent by a court, then someone has been appointed the guardian caretaker.
[58:08.600 --> 58:13.600]  That person will be in charge of any and all decision-making regarding that person.
[58:13.600 --> 58:14.600]  Okay.
[58:14.600 --> 58:23.600]  Yeah, if the elderly family member has not been declared mentally incompetent by a court, then, yeah, they can divorce their spouse.
[58:23.600 --> 58:27.600]  They can do anything they want.
[58:27.600 --> 58:35.600]  And then if they have, then it would be up to the appointed guardian whatever decisions they want to make regarding their care.
[58:35.600 --> 58:36.600]  Correct.
[58:36.600 --> 58:45.600]  So basically, if you get a person declared as such, you're at the mercy of the court.
[58:45.600 --> 58:49.600]  Well, it depends on what you mean by you're at the mercy of the court.
[58:49.600 --> 58:58.600]  The court will make a determination based upon whatever is presented to them and what type of competency hearing you're trying to have them hold.
[58:58.600 --> 59:06.600]  If you're having them declared insane, then they're going to have them committed, not just declared incompetent, so on and so forth.
[59:06.600 --> 59:12.600]  So it really depends upon what type of competency hearing we're talking about here.
[59:12.600 --> 59:23.600]  And then I presume if you do nothing and you do not go to court, you don't want the courts involved in this spouse just by default make the decisions?
[59:23.600 --> 59:25.600]  Normally, yes.
[59:25.600 --> 59:37.600]  But now what can be done without involving the court directly is to have the one sign over power of attorney for all matters to the other.
[59:37.600 --> 59:39.600]  Yes.
[59:39.600 --> 59:45.600]  How long is you do so, you know, when you're on sound mind to make that decision?
[59:45.600 --> 59:52.600]  Well, sound mind is up to anybody's particular category of judgment, personal opinion.
[59:52.600 --> 59:57.600]  Many people would like to declare me insane, but I, for one, wouldn't have it.
[59:57.600 --> 01:00:04.600]  So its perception, you know, is in the eye of the beholder, basically speaking.
[01:00:04.600 --> 01:00:11.600]  So whether or not a person is mentally competent to sign over power of attorney or anything like that,
[01:00:11.600 --> 01:00:23.600]  as long as someone is not inducing them to do so through undue influence, by fraud or by other means,
[01:00:23.600 --> 01:00:30.600]  and the purpose of getting the power of attorney is to ensure their welfare and well-being,
[01:00:30.600 --> 01:00:36.600]  you're not going to get many arguments out of somebody that that was wrong to do.
[01:00:36.600 --> 01:00:47.600]  Not unless you spoil their opportunity to take advantage of them, you know, which is what most attorneys, I think, would declare.
[01:00:47.600 --> 01:00:49.600]  Okay.
[01:00:49.600 --> 01:00:54.600]  I'm finished unless anybody wants to, somebody else wants to add something else.
[01:00:54.600 --> 01:00:55.600]  Okay.
[01:00:55.600 --> 01:00:56.600]  Thank you, Karen.
[01:00:56.600 --> 01:01:04.600]  Yeah, I guess mainly unless the courts have declared someone competent, they're a sovereign individual.
[01:01:04.600 --> 01:01:14.600]  They can do whatever they want with their finances, with their legal status, with their papers, divorcing, marrying, selling, whatever they want to do.
[01:01:14.600 --> 01:01:18.600]  They are a free human being.
[01:01:18.600 --> 01:01:30.600]  And so unless the courts have taken their freedom away from them for whatever reason, whether it be incarcerating them because of being convicted of a crime
[01:01:30.600 --> 01:01:41.600]  or whether they've been declared mentally incompetent by the courts because of whatever decisions they've been making, family members,
[01:01:41.600 --> 01:01:49.600]  even a person's spouse cannot control their spouse.
[01:01:49.600 --> 01:01:57.600]  A spouse cannot control another spouse regarding the decisions that he or she may make in any manner or shape whatsoever.
[01:01:57.600 --> 01:02:03.600]  And if the other spouse or if the rest of the family members don't like it or don't agree with it, you know what?
[01:02:03.600 --> 01:02:08.600]  Too bad because that's what freedom is.
[01:02:08.600 --> 01:02:11.600]  We are sovereign individual human beings.
[01:02:11.600 --> 01:02:22.600]  And if the family and the spouse believe that an individual is making reckless decisions that could endanger him or herself or other people,
[01:02:22.600 --> 01:02:26.600]  then they're going to have to go through a legitimate process in court.
[01:02:26.600 --> 01:02:28.600]  This is about due process.
[01:02:28.600 --> 01:02:33.600]  You cannot deprive anyone of their life, liberty or property without due process.
[01:02:33.600 --> 01:02:35.600]  So that's just the way it is.
[01:02:35.600 --> 01:02:40.600]  Yeah, the good thing about getting married is it makes you eligible for divorce.
[01:02:40.600 --> 01:02:42.600]  I'm sorry, say that again.
[01:02:42.600 --> 01:02:43.600]  Okay.
[01:02:43.600 --> 01:02:50.600]  The good thing about getting married is that it makes you eligible for divorce.
[01:02:50.600 --> 01:02:51.600]  Well, yeah, obviously.
[01:02:51.600 --> 01:02:54.600]  I mean, you can't divorce someone if you're not married.
[01:02:54.600 --> 01:02:57.600]  You sound really happy with the situation.
[01:02:57.600 --> 01:02:58.600]  Okay.
[01:02:58.600 --> 01:02:59.600]  All right.
[01:02:59.600 --> 01:03:00.600]  Thank you, Karen.
[01:03:00.600 --> 01:03:01.600]  Okay.
[01:03:01.600 --> 01:03:02.600]  Okay.
[01:03:02.600 --> 01:03:03.600]  All right.
[01:03:03.600 --> 01:03:04.600]  We have one last caller.
[01:03:04.600 --> 01:03:07.600]  We've got Brian from Pennsylvania who's called back in again.
[01:03:07.600 --> 01:03:09.600]  Brian, thanks for calling back in.
[01:03:09.600 --> 01:03:12.600]  What's on your mind?
[01:03:12.600 --> 01:03:16.600]  Brian?
[01:03:16.600 --> 01:03:17.600]  Do we have Brian?
[01:03:17.600 --> 01:03:18.600]  Okay.
[01:03:18.600 --> 01:03:25.600]  I guess we don't have Brian.
[01:03:25.600 --> 01:03:26.600]  We lost him.
[01:03:26.600 --> 01:03:30.600]  Brian, you still there?
[01:03:30.600 --> 01:03:31.600]  Okay.
[01:03:31.600 --> 01:03:32.600]  Great.
[01:03:32.600 --> 01:03:33.600]  All right.
[01:03:33.600 --> 01:03:34.600]  That's it.
[01:03:34.600 --> 01:03:37.600]  We don't have any more callers on the board.
[01:03:37.600 --> 01:03:42.600]  So we've gone overtime into the 1 o'clock hour.
[01:03:42.600 --> 01:03:45.600]  I believe Randy has fallen asleep.
[01:03:45.600 --> 01:03:51.600]  That or is beer fun caught up with him?
[01:03:51.600 --> 01:03:52.600]  That or is beer fun.
[01:03:52.600 --> 01:03:56.600]  I was just going to say that or is beer fun caught up with him.
[01:03:56.600 --> 01:03:58.600]  I'll give Brian one more chance, Brian.
[01:03:58.600 --> 01:03:59.600]  Okay.
[01:03:59.600 --> 01:04:00.600]  He's not there.
[01:04:00.600 --> 01:04:01.600]  All right.
[01:04:01.600 --> 01:04:02.600]  Very good.
[01:04:02.600 --> 01:04:04.600]  Thank you very much for joining us, Steve.
[01:04:04.600 --> 01:04:05.600]  Do you have any closing comments?
[01:04:05.600 --> 01:04:08.600]  Or Eddie, do you want to wrap up the show?
[01:04:08.600 --> 01:04:13.600]  How do you guys – what's on you guys' mind here?
[01:04:13.600 --> 01:04:15.600]  Eddie, you've been kind of quiet tonight.
[01:04:15.600 --> 01:04:18.600]  I've been listening.
[01:04:18.600 --> 01:04:22.600]  And it's all good stuff that I've listened to tonight.
[01:04:22.600 --> 01:04:27.600]  And I appreciate his efforts on our behalf to get people to contribute.
[01:04:27.600 --> 01:04:28.600]  And thank you very much for that.
[01:04:28.600 --> 01:04:31.600]  And we appreciate your time devoted to being here tonight.
[01:04:31.600 --> 01:04:33.600]  Yes, thank you so much, Steve.
[01:04:33.600 --> 01:04:37.600]  You've gone beyond the call of duty, staying into overtime mode with us.
[01:04:37.600 --> 01:04:39.600]  Do you have any closing comments?
[01:04:39.600 --> 01:04:41.600]  Yes, it was a real pleasure.
[01:04:41.600 --> 01:04:42.600]  Thank you, Deborah.
[01:04:42.600 --> 01:04:44.600]  Thank you, Eddie, Randy.
[01:04:44.600 --> 01:04:48.600]  Obviously you guys have put a lot of mind, soul,
[01:04:48.600 --> 01:04:56.600]  and spirit into what you're trying to do for how much you're trying to help people.
[01:04:56.600 --> 01:05:01.600]  If I was going to leave whatever remaining listeners are still on with anything tonight,
[01:05:01.600 --> 01:05:08.600]  it would be once in a while you really have to count your wealth by what do you receive,
[01:05:08.600 --> 01:05:11.600]  what do you get out of it.
[01:05:11.600 --> 01:05:16.600]  And if you consider what these people are doing on your behalf and the effort
[01:05:16.600 --> 01:05:22.600]  and the love and the dedication that it takes to provide what, you know,
[01:05:22.600 --> 01:05:28.600]  a few simple clicks on your mouse will bring you to.
[01:05:28.600 --> 01:05:31.600]  Try not to take it for granted.
[01:05:31.600 --> 01:05:36.600]  You know, obviously we all have limited resources.
[01:05:36.600 --> 01:05:41.600]  There's only so much any of us can do on any given day.
[01:05:41.600 --> 01:05:44.600]  With that being said, don't forget who your friends are.
[01:05:44.600 --> 01:05:50.600]  And even if you've never shaken the hands of the folks running this program for you,
[01:05:50.600 --> 01:05:54.600]  don't be shy to give them a helping hand once in a while.
[01:05:54.600 --> 01:06:01.600]  You might be surprised at just how much more you benefit personally from doing just that.
[01:06:01.600 --> 01:06:03.600]  And it was a real pleasure.
[01:06:03.600 --> 01:06:10.600]  And as always, anytime I have a chance to entertain or enlighten somebody,
[01:06:10.600 --> 01:06:12.600]  it's a big hoot for me.
[01:06:12.600 --> 01:06:23.600]  And it makes all this, you know, drudgery of study and depressing information much more worthwhile.
[01:06:23.600 --> 01:06:25.600]  I'm sorry, I was laughing when you said hoot.
[01:06:25.600 --> 01:06:31.600]  That's like one of Randy's favorite expressions, it's a hoot.
[01:06:31.600 --> 01:06:32.600]  All right.
[01:06:32.600 --> 01:06:33.600]  Well, thank you, listeners.
[01:06:33.600 --> 01:06:40.600]  At this point, we are going to sign off on our overtime session here on the rule of law,
[01:06:40.600 --> 01:06:41.600]  ruleoflawradio.com.
[01:06:41.600 --> 01:06:43.600]  We want to thank all our listeners.
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[01:06:45.600 --> 01:06:50.600]  Many of our affiliates continue to broadcast us.
[01:06:50.600 --> 01:06:59.600]  They changed their programming schedule on the fly at the last minute to continue to broadcast us after midnight on these nights.
[01:06:59.600 --> 01:07:04.600]  And we want to thank them for that for trumping their normally scheduled programs.
[01:07:04.600 --> 01:07:07.600]  So we appreciate everything.
[01:07:07.600 --> 01:07:12.600]  We'll be back Monday night and don't forget to tune in Sunday nights at 8 p.m.
[01:07:12.600 --> 01:07:17.600]  We haven't been promoting our newest show, Gary Johnson, Live and Let Live.
[01:07:17.600 --> 01:07:19.600]  People, you've got to listen to the archives.
[01:07:19.600 --> 01:07:23.600]  You've got to tune in to Gary's show on Sunday nights, 8 to 10 p.m.
[01:07:23.600 --> 01:07:24.600]  Live and Let Live.
[01:07:24.600 --> 01:07:28.600]  He's been broadcasting for over 20 years as a television host.
[01:07:28.600 --> 01:07:33.600]  Libertarian standpoint, he had Barry Goldwater Jr. as a guest two weeks ago.
[01:07:33.600 --> 01:07:41.600]  Highly recommend his show. So tune in Sundays at eight and we'll be back Monday at eight.
[01:07:41.600 --> 01:07:43.600]  This is the rule of law.
[01:07:43.600 --> 01:08:09.600]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Craig and Steve.