[00:00.000 --> 00:05.360] This news brief brought to you by the International News Network. [00:05.360 --> 00:12.040] Senator John McCain Tuesday endorsed Barack Obama's strategy of escalation in Afghanistan. [00:12.040 --> 00:17.920] Critics say the most hawkish positions on Iraq and Afghanistan are now official policy. [00:17.920 --> 00:24.780] Mohammed al-Adhahi, a Yemeni citizen who has been held by the U.S. since 2001 on charges [00:24.780 --> 00:31.800] stemming from owning a Casio wristwatch, was ordered released by a federal judge Tuesday. [00:31.800 --> 00:37.260] Robert Michelletti, Honduras' interim president, said Monday he won't agree to any proposal [00:37.260 --> 00:42.840] to resolve his country's political crisis that would allow ousted president Manuel Zelaya [00:42.840 --> 00:44.240] to return to power. [00:44.240 --> 00:48.480] This news brief brought to you by the International News Network. [00:48.480 --> 00:54.480] According to two polls by major Japanese dailies, the Liberal Democratic Party, Japan's ruling [00:54.480 --> 00:59.120] party for most of the past 50 years, is trailing dramatically. [00:59.120 --> 01:05.880] The Democratic Party of Japan, DPJ, a relatively new opposition party which runs on an anti-traditionalist [01:05.880 --> 01:09.240] platform, is shown leading by 20 percent. [01:09.240 --> 01:14.840] The DPJ has sought a break with business as usual in the notoriously conservative Japanese [01:14.840 --> 01:15.840] government. [01:15.840 --> 01:21.240] The DPJ advocates a limited and decentralized government domestically and an independent [01:21.240 --> 01:22.720] foreign policy abroad. [01:22.720 --> 01:28.200] They have criticized the LDP for unquestioningly following the American lead in matters of [01:28.200 --> 01:33.040] policy and have called for improved relations with China and Korea. [01:33.040 --> 01:38.880] They have also criticized the LDP for its efforts to stray from their pacifist constitution [01:38.880 --> 01:42.280] and get involved in military efforts overseas. [01:42.280 --> 01:48.000] But the most serious blow to the U.S. is that the DPJ has advocated reconsidering the U.S. [01:48.000 --> 01:56.000] military presence in Japan. [01:56.000 --> 02:02.120] More than 150 UBS clients in the U.S. are under investigation for concealing income [02:02.120 --> 02:04.720] and assets offshore at the bank. [02:04.720 --> 02:09.720] The scope of the investigation was disclosed Tuesday in a memo recommending that former [02:09.720 --> 02:15.800] UBS banker Bradley Birkenfeld serve 30 months in prison for conspiring to help wealthy Americans [02:15.800 --> 02:17.600] evade taxes. [02:17.600 --> 02:24.480] Birkenfeld pleaded guilty in 2008 to conspiracy saying he helped U.S. clients evade taxes [02:24.480 --> 02:26.760] through a Zurich-based UBS. 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[03:55.560 --> 03:58.960] Side effects from using Brave New Books products may include discernment and enlarged vocabulary [03:58.960 --> 04:01.960] and an overall increase in mental functioning. [04:01.960 --> 04:08.960] You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com, live free speech [04:08.960 --> 04:32.240] talk radio at its best. [05:08.960 --> 05:17.400] Bad boys, bad boys, what are you going to do when we come for you? [05:17.400 --> 05:24.240] This is the Rule of Law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens. [05:24.240 --> 05:33.920] Tonight, we have a very special guest, Mr. Michael Badenarek, presidential candidate [05:33.920 --> 05:46.000] from 2004, and Michael, you are teaching classes on the Constitution, so why don't you tell [05:46.000 --> 05:50.840] us a little bit more about that and when is your next class on the Constitution? [05:50.840 --> 05:54.440] You have a class coming up here in Austin, is that right? [05:54.440 --> 05:55.440] That is correct. [05:55.440 --> 06:01.440] I'll be in Austin on September 5th, which is Liberty Weekend, and I'll be teaching the [06:01.440 --> 06:09.160] class from 9 a.m. till 6 p.m., we take a one-hour lunch break, and after 6 o'clock, anybody [06:09.160 --> 06:15.160] that wants to join me at dinner can follow me to a restaurant someplace nearby and we [06:15.160 --> 06:20.440] can talk about the Constitution until the cows come home. [06:20.440 --> 06:25.760] I promise that I can answer questions about the Constitution longer than my students can [06:25.760 --> 06:29.160] stay awake to ask them. [06:29.160 --> 06:33.440] In New York, I went and taught my class, they kept me up till 2 o'clock in the morning trying [06:33.440 --> 06:35.560] to push me to the limit. [06:35.560 --> 06:45.640] I'll be at the Wyndham Garden Hotel on I-35, it is about a half a mile north of Ben White [06:45.640 --> 06:53.440] at Woodward, and if you'd like to join me for that class, you need to go to my website, [06:53.440 --> 07:02.400] ConstitutionPreservation.org, ConstitutionPreservation.org, and register for the class ahead of time. [07:02.400 --> 07:09.520] And I will also be teaching that same class in Grapevine, Texas, which is at the end of [07:09.520 --> 07:11.640] a DFW runway. [07:11.640 --> 07:19.280] That hotel is going to be the Embassy Suites Hotel, the Embassy Suites DFW. [07:19.280 --> 07:25.660] So that class is also available on my website, and if you know anybody in the Dallas area [07:25.660 --> 07:29.280] that would like to attend, please let them know about it. [07:29.280 --> 07:37.000] And I've been teaching this class since early 2001, and I've taught over 300 versions of [07:37.000 --> 07:44.760] the class, and people are just thrilled at what they learn about the Constitution. [07:44.760 --> 07:48.600] When I give presentations, I will frequently ask people to raise their hand if they're [07:48.600 --> 07:51.320] a good patriotic American. [07:51.320 --> 07:54.200] Not surprisingly, the entire audience raises their hand. [07:54.200 --> 07:56.840] Everybody's a good patriotic American. [07:56.840 --> 08:02.280] My next question is, raise your hand if you can tell me how many articles are in the Constitution, [08:02.280 --> 08:07.720] and very few people are ever able to raise their hand, you know, making me wonder what [08:07.720 --> 08:11.760] the criteria for being a good patriotic American actually is. [08:11.760 --> 08:15.640] You know, maybe it's so low that, you know, all you have to do is be able to dress yourself [08:15.640 --> 08:20.000] in the morning, and apparently that qualifies you as a good patriotic American. [08:20.000 --> 08:25.800] But after eight hours of my class, you will understand the reasons that the founding fathers [08:25.800 --> 08:27.480] wrote the Constitution. [08:27.480 --> 08:32.680] You will know the difference between rights and privileges, and you will come to the conclusion [08:32.680 --> 08:38.840] on your own that most of what our federal government does, and then other state governments [08:38.840 --> 08:43.160] as well, most of what our government does is unconstitutional. [08:43.160 --> 08:53.680] And people are usually inspired to become active in politics to help restore the Constitutional [08:53.680 --> 08:56.040] Republic that we're supposed to have. [08:56.040 --> 09:02.560] Absolutely, and I've taken Michael's course on the Constitution, and I highly recommend [09:02.560 --> 09:05.520] it to everyone. [09:05.520 --> 09:10.400] And at the risk of some accusing me of being in the left-right paradigm, I have to say [09:10.400 --> 09:20.440] that even the most hardcore liberal, bleeding-heart liberal leftist collectivist would walk out [09:20.440 --> 09:28.320] of Michael Baden-Erick's class, a gun-toting, totally individualist, a militia leader, okay, [09:28.320 --> 09:29.320] property rights activist. [09:29.320 --> 09:32.780] I'm sorry, I just got to tell it like it is. [09:32.780 --> 09:40.800] You cannot sit through Michael Baden-Erick's class and not just totally have the veil ripped [09:40.800 --> 09:43.040] off from in front of you. [09:43.040 --> 09:48.680] You cannot drink the Kool-Aid anymore once you sit through Michael's class. [09:48.680 --> 09:54.720] And for me, it's not even, Michael, your class wasn't even so much about the Constitution, [09:54.720 --> 10:01.760] but about the fundamental principles of liberty and freedom and rights and privileges and [10:01.760 --> 10:03.720] property and these sorts of things. [10:03.720 --> 10:09.520] So if you would please, can you just give us a little heads up, a little brief or a [10:09.520 --> 10:16.240] little teaser, so to speak, about the differences between what are rights versus privileges [10:16.240 --> 10:23.080] and where do we derive our rights from and how government doesn't have any rights and [10:23.080 --> 10:24.080] these sorts of things? [10:24.080 --> 10:30.200] Well, I started to teach this class many years ago primarily because I decided that most [10:30.200 --> 10:37.200] Americans don't know the difference between rights and privileges and this is really fundamental. [10:37.200 --> 10:43.080] A right is something that you can do without asking. [10:43.080 --> 10:50.320] Privilege is something that some authority, some higher authority allows you to do. [10:50.320 --> 10:55.720] For example, if I walk out of my home onto my land, I can walk back and forth on my land [10:55.720 --> 11:03.000] all day long and I don't need permission from anybody because walking on my land is right. [11:03.000 --> 11:08.280] Now if I want to walk across Randy's land, maybe I want to take a shortcut to the store, [11:08.280 --> 11:11.640] I can't walk across Randy's land any time I want. [11:11.640 --> 11:14.440] I need to get Randy's permission. [11:14.440 --> 11:18.560] Now if Randy and I have been neighbors for some period of time and I haven't set his [11:18.560 --> 11:23.400] cat on fire, done something reprehensible, I mean I've got at least a chance that Randy [11:23.400 --> 11:26.120] can say, sure Mike, what are friends for? [11:26.120 --> 11:32.120] So Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, Randy may allow me to walk across his land but on Thursday, [11:32.120 --> 11:37.160] for whatever reason he comes up with, he can change his mind and he can revoke that privilege. [11:37.160 --> 11:40.640] He can say, walk around, that's what fences are for. [11:40.640 --> 11:46.920] The important concept about privileges is that a privilege is granted to you and it [11:46.920 --> 11:50.960] can be revoked for whatever reason. [11:50.960 --> 11:58.320] So rights and privileges are opposites, either you need permission or you don't, it's a little [11:58.320 --> 12:04.240] bit like being pregnant, either you're pregnant or you're not, there's no little bit pregnant. [12:04.240 --> 12:11.240] And so either you have a right to do something because you don't need permission or somebody [12:11.240 --> 12:16.200] else is in charge of whether or not you are allowed to do something. [12:16.200 --> 12:25.240] Now the fact is that rights and privileges are opposites and we can debate that and typically [12:25.240 --> 12:30.760] in class we do debate that a little bit but given that they are opposites, then three [12:30.760 --> 12:37.040] other things are also true, they are corollaries and the first one is that all of your rights [12:37.040 --> 12:46.120] derive from property, rights, every right has an intrinsic responsibility and the third [12:46.120 --> 12:56.560] is that the only limitation on your rights are the equal rights of others and very quickly [12:56.560 --> 13:01.960] if it's my property, I have a right to walk on it, if it's Randy's property, it's a privilege. [13:01.960 --> 13:08.520] Now people will debate that and say I have a right to life but I don't own a farm and [13:08.520 --> 13:16.280] I remind them that your rights are not derived from land, your rights are derived from property [13:16.280 --> 13:21.760] and the next question is who owns your body and people look at me like I've grown a second [13:21.760 --> 13:27.360] head because the answer seems to be so obvious that every man, woman and child in the United [13:27.360 --> 13:35.160] States is assumed of course to own their body, however that was not always true, slaves were [13:35.160 --> 13:42.840] assumed to be owned by someone else and the women in Middle Eastern countries are not [13:42.840 --> 13:47.400] treated as if they own their own bodies, they certainly don't wear those burqas because [13:47.400 --> 13:54.280] they think they are in a wonderful fashion statement so all of our rules, all of our [13:54.280 --> 13:58.400] constitution, everything that we believe in about the United States is predicated on the [13:58.400 --> 14:05.400] assumption that each man, woman and child owns their own body, it's all about property. [14:05.400 --> 14:13.680] So the second corollary is that every right has a responsibility, two people have a right [14:13.680 --> 14:18.480] to have children but they also have a responsibility to feed the children, shelter the children [14:18.480 --> 14:25.400] and teach the children all the skills and values they need to be functional adults. [14:25.400 --> 14:32.800] We have a right to feed ourselves, we have a responsibility to provide for our own retirement [14:32.800 --> 14:38.880] but back when Franklin Delano Roosevelt was president he lied to the American public, [14:38.880 --> 14:43.880] told us that it was the government's job to take care of its people which is not true [14:43.880 --> 14:49.520] and they developed a social security system wherein you give the government your money, [14:49.520 --> 14:54.200] they invest it for you and supposedly when you're ready to retire you're going to have [14:54.200 --> 14:56.880] more money than you know what to do with. [14:56.880 --> 15:04.120] Well clearly nobody on social security feels secure, the government is going bankrupt, [15:04.120 --> 15:13.840] we've got $57 trillion of unfunded liability for social security, Medicare and Medicaid [15:13.840 --> 15:20.400] and anybody who is currently a baby boomer is very concerned about not getting the benefits [15:20.400 --> 15:23.000] that they thought they were promised. [15:23.000 --> 15:32.160] So my lesson for that is that I used to be a skydiving instructor and I was the only [15:32.160 --> 15:38.600] one that would be allowed to pack my parachute, it's my life, it's my responsibility to pack [15:38.600 --> 15:42.760] the parachute, the last thing I want to do with the last 10 seconds of my life is use [15:42.760 --> 15:45.080] your name in vain. [15:45.080 --> 15:50.680] So we need to pack our own parachute, we need to be responsible for ourselves and when [15:50.680 --> 15:58.360] more Americans become responsible for themselves and grasp their responsibilities then we will [15:58.360 --> 16:05.080] have far more liberty in the United States and the third corollary is that the only limitation [16:05.080 --> 16:09.400] on your rights or the equal rights of others, in other words you can do anything you want [16:09.400 --> 16:15.520] with your property, you can do nothing at all with somebody else's property, it is all [16:15.520 --> 16:20.280] a property issue, there's a one word answer for every question about the Constitution [16:20.280 --> 16:23.360] and that word is property. [16:23.360 --> 16:32.480] Awesome, Michael, we're going to skip break here because I want to get as much out of [16:32.480 --> 16:41.360] you as we can as you're willing to give, can you please talk about this issue of property [16:41.360 --> 16:49.900] and how our rights derive from property and how and what is the proper role of government [16:49.900 --> 16:55.080] and how, see one thing that I'm really concerned about, I'm maybe addressing a lot of issues [16:55.080 --> 17:02.120] here, is this whole mentality that I see these days of entitlement, of how I see so many [17:02.120 --> 17:10.320] people here in this society that have this entitlement mentality, they feel they're entitled [17:10.320 --> 17:15.440] to so many services and that the role of government, they feel the government is supposed to take [17:15.440 --> 17:22.440] care of us and I would like you to address what the proper role of government is, it's [17:22.440 --> 17:30.480] my belief that we are not entitled to any service, we're not entitled to anything for [17:30.480 --> 17:37.400] that matter, my belief, unless we own it and if you could just please address that and [17:37.400 --> 17:45.120] also the group rights thing because I'm really tired of hearing about women and I don't mean [17:45.120 --> 17:49.640] to be gender biased but I'm really getting tired of hearing about women's rights, I'm [17:49.640 --> 17:55.840] getting tired of hearing about minority rights and this, that and the other group rights, [17:55.840 --> 18:03.880] it's my belief that groups don't have rights, that rights, a right derives from individual [18:03.880 --> 18:07.720] property ownership so anyway if you could just address those things I appreciate it. [18:07.720 --> 18:11.000] Sure, when are we, how much time do we have before a commercial? [18:11.000 --> 18:12.000] About 11 minutes. [18:12.000 --> 18:13.000] Oh cool. [18:13.000 --> 18:16.440] At the bottom of the hour we'll go to Brett. [18:16.440 --> 18:23.600] Property, property is the most important thing, John Adams was the president right after George [18:23.600 --> 18:32.280] Washington and he is quoted as saying that the moment the idea that property is not as [18:32.280 --> 18:39.000] sacred as the law of God and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect [18:39.000 --> 18:46.600] it then anarchy and tyranny commence, before the Declaration of Independence all 13 colonies [18:46.600 --> 18:52.920] were presumed to be owned by King George and he had never even been here, never saw them [18:52.920 --> 18:59.520] personally they were just, he was the king and he owned everything, we lived in an allodial [18:59.520 --> 19:06.200] system where the king owned it and would loan it to you, after the American Revolution and [19:06.200 --> 19:15.720] the Treaty of Paris we changed from a feudal system to an allodial system where we the [19:15.720 --> 19:21.400] people actually owned our own property, this is where the concept of a man's home is his [19:21.400 --> 19:24.360] castle comes from. [19:24.360 --> 19:33.600] Now the ownership thing is very, very important, I own my own body, it doesn't look as good [19:33.600 --> 19:41.040] as it did when I was in college but it's mine and I decide what I eat, I decide what I drink [19:41.040 --> 19:49.200] and I decide whether or not I'm going to take any chemicals as medicine for any kind of [19:49.200 --> 19:57.160] a medical problem that I have because it is my body, the government treats you as a slave, [19:57.160 --> 20:07.120] they treat you as if the government owns your body because they decided that provision, [20:07.120 --> 20:11.320] we were going to prevent you from drinking alcohol because you're not smart enough to [20:11.320 --> 20:16.040] just make that decision, the government is going to make that decision for you, well [20:16.040 --> 20:21.440] most of us are adults, you know we can decide whether or not we're going to have an alcoholic [20:21.440 --> 20:28.240] beverage, that's part of our system here that we understand that everybody can make their [20:28.240 --> 20:35.160] own decisions, well fortunately we got rid of the 18th Amendment, the 21st Amendment [20:35.160 --> 20:39.880] but now we've got this whole drug war thing where the government is telling you that you're [20:39.880 --> 20:45.560] not allowed to smoke this, you're not allowed to take that as if they own your body and [20:45.560 --> 20:57.360] they control what you can and cannot take, the Codex Alimentarius is going to presumably [20:57.360 --> 21:03.400] make things like vitamin C a prescription item, so you won't be allowed to take a vitamin [21:03.400 --> 21:07.800] C tablet unless your doctor has written it as a prescription, once again the government [21:07.800 --> 21:13.480] trying to control your body, so you need to start to realize, you need to start to think [21:13.480 --> 21:22.200] about your body as your property, one that you control, not the government, now if I [21:22.200 --> 21:30.800] were to write a geometry book and I had a chapter called Round Circles, I mean people [21:30.800 --> 21:36.600] would laugh at my book, I mean this is ridiculous to have a chapter called Round Circles because [21:36.600 --> 21:43.800] round is the definition of a circle, well in my book Good to be King I have a chapter [21:43.800 --> 21:50.200] called Individual Rights, I'm a little embarrassed about that because it seems fairly redundant [21:50.200 --> 21:59.560] and obvious to me but the only type, the only type of rights that exist are individual rights, [21:59.560 --> 22:09.120] individuals have rights and as you said different communities and subgroups do not have rights, [22:09.120 --> 22:15.080] you have rights because you are an individual not because you're female, not because someone [22:15.080 --> 22:22.920] might be gay or black or any other subset of the population, you have individual rights, [22:22.920 --> 22:28.760] you don't have more rights or less rights because you belong to a particular group and [22:28.760 --> 22:35.800] this is one of the ideological battles that we are faced with on a day to day basis in [22:35.800 --> 22:42.360] the United States, we're in an ideological war, it's a war of ideas and it's a war between [22:42.360 --> 22:50.400] individualism and collectivism, the idea that you are an individual, you get to make your [22:50.400 --> 22:58.640] own choices and you are, you know, welcome to be different than anybody else, the collectivism [22:58.640 --> 23:07.880] is that we're all in this boat together and we all have to work for a group goal, well [23:07.880 --> 23:14.880] I'm all in favor of cooperation, if my car is stuck in the mud I'm more than happy to [23:14.880 --> 23:20.960] have other people come over and help me push my car out of the mud but that doesn't make [23:20.960 --> 23:28.560] it any less my car and it doesn't make me any less of an individual and when the government [23:28.560 --> 23:34.120] starts to control the property, when the government starts to make decisions for the, you know, [23:34.120 --> 23:41.280] the greater good of the community, that's when we're on this slippery slope to tyranny [23:41.280 --> 23:49.240] and individuals have rights, governments only have privileges, we give the government privileges [23:49.240 --> 23:54.040] and we can take those privileges away from the government any time we want, the Declaration [23:54.040 --> 24:01.280] of Independence documents that, we have the right to alter or abolish our government, [24:01.280 --> 24:04.600] I don't know what abolish means to everybody else but it means that we can get rid of it [24:04.600 --> 24:10.480] completely and start over in our scratch, we've already done that once, we were under [24:10.480 --> 24:15.440] the Articles of Confederation when those didn't work, we threw the Articles of Confederation [24:15.440 --> 24:22.040] away and we wrote the Constitution, the preamble of the Constitution says we the people in [24:22.040 --> 24:28.600] order to form a more perfect union, well more perfect than the Articles of Confederation [24:28.600 --> 24:36.320] that we just eliminated, so we the people are the source of all political power, we [24:36.320 --> 24:41.440] have individual rights, governments only have privileges and that fact is documented by [24:41.440 --> 24:51.280] the first five words of the Constitution, it says all legislative powers herein granted, [24:51.280 --> 24:56.720] the powers of what Congress has and those powers are granted meaning that it's a privilege [24:56.720 --> 25:02.960] granted by we the people and we the people can un-grant those privileges any time we [25:02.960 --> 25:12.120] decide that it's time to do so, so there are a lot of really simple ideas that people probably [25:12.120 --> 25:18.640] know, they've just forgotten, they just didn't realize that it applies to everyday life and [25:18.640 --> 25:25.720] you know when I teach people about the Constitution, I'm really teaching them about their Constitution, [25:25.720 --> 25:31.840] their Bill of Rights and suddenly the whole Constitution and government becomes very, [25:31.840 --> 25:37.680] very personal which is what it should be, it should be a personal thing and that's [25:37.680 --> 25:41.360] what motivates us to get involved. [25:41.360 --> 25:53.160] Absolutely, Michael I would like you to address, well I have a question about, it seems to [25:53.160 --> 26:01.320] me that there is a seduction at hand regarding this group rights thing and it's been going [26:01.320 --> 26:12.560] on for a while, many decades, hundreds of years and the idea of reparations that because [26:12.560 --> 26:18.720] you know women had been oppressed or because a certain minority or race, racial group had [26:18.720 --> 26:28.520] been oppressed, well now that group has more rights quote unquote or should be given you [26:28.520 --> 26:39.520] know some substantial stature in society and so how do we wake people up who feel that [26:39.520 --> 26:50.040] they've been harmed in that manner to understand that look okay, yes maybe you, well for one [26:50.040 --> 26:56.120] thing have you in particularly individually been harmed or were your forefathers been [26:56.120 --> 27:01.560] harmed or your ancestors been harmed, okay so first you've got to delineate that and [27:01.560 --> 27:09.320] if you have been harmed, does that necessarily mean that whatever group you may identify [27:09.320 --> 27:17.320] yourself with should have extra quote rights, I mean how do we break people out of this, [27:17.320 --> 27:23.120] you know it seems like a seduction thing to fall into this collectivism, how do we? [27:23.120 --> 27:31.920] Well it is seductive because if you are with a powerful group then you'll be able to take [27:31.920 --> 27:38.720] property away from a less powerful group, you know working for property, I mean it takes [27:38.720 --> 27:47.240] hard work and most people are lazy rather than working for the money or for the property [27:47.240 --> 27:53.080] that I want, it's much easier to let you work for it and then take it away from me. [27:53.080 --> 28:02.200] Now if we do that overtly it's called theft and everybody around the world understands [28:02.200 --> 28:08.040] that theft is bad, if you and I go to France and we're sitting along the Champs Elysees [28:08.040 --> 28:14.760] and I reach over and I pilfer someone's croissant and that person starts yelling at us in French, [28:14.760 --> 28:20.000] we may not understand the language but we are very, very clear on why they are upset, [28:20.000 --> 28:27.180] you can't go in any country, any language, any religion, everybody understands the sanctity [28:27.180 --> 28:31.600] of private property and some Middle Eastern countries presumably you get your hand cut [28:31.600 --> 28:38.040] off if you get caught stealing, even a two year old understands the importance of private [28:38.040 --> 28:44.440] property, a two year old's favorite word is mine but suddenly people think that there [28:44.440 --> 28:50.720] are exceptions to that rule that if I'm with a powerful group, you know if I'm with a bunch [28:50.720 --> 28:59.760] of people that I can associate with then we are entitled to somebody else's property and [28:59.760 --> 29:08.000] so it isn't as distasteful as theft, nobody wants to be a thief or a robber or at least [29:08.000 --> 29:13.800] be publicly identified as a thief or robber but people allow themselves to believe that [29:13.800 --> 29:19.840] if we're with a group then we're entitled to it and if we can convince ourselves and [29:19.840 --> 29:24.840] everybody else that we're not stealing it, that it belongs to us even though you worked [29:24.840 --> 29:32.840] for it, it just allows people to get somebody else's property without the guilt of thinking [29:32.840 --> 29:37.160] that you've stolen it. 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You pulled me over, and tell me to be silent, sir. I need to speak to my lawyer. [32:19.560 --> 32:41.560] Okay, we are back. The rule of law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, and a very special guest tonight, Michael Banerich. And Michael, I really, I really want to smash the, smash the state, as Gary Johnson would say, title of one of his shows, Smash the State. [32:41.560 --> 33:03.560] Just the idea of group rights. Okay, the principle is that rights derive from property ownership. And so how can, like if a group owns property and drives rights from that, and how does that filter down to the individual? It just, it doesn't make sense. I mean. [33:03.560 --> 33:16.560] When, when your listeners woke up this morning, I'm saying that they spent a few minutes alone in the bathroom all by themselves, staring at themselves in the mirror, trying to identify all the things they had to do today. [33:16.560 --> 33:32.560] And during that time alone in the bathroom, they did in fact have individual rights. There's nobody in the bathroom with them to violate their rights, yet they are there, they're an individual, and they have individual rights. [33:32.560 --> 33:41.560] At some point they come out of the bathroom, they get dressed, and maybe they go to work or, you know, go to a staff meeting, possibly they come to my Constitution class. [33:41.560 --> 33:53.560] Well, when I have a group of students in my Constitution class, do they have more rights or less rights now that they are sitting in the classroom? [33:53.560 --> 34:07.560] The answer is they have exactly the same amount of rights they had when they were, you know, alone in the bathroom. Your individual rights do not increase or decrease simply because you're participating in a group function. [34:07.560 --> 34:26.560] They are individual rights, and that's the only kind of rights that exist. Now we are battling this huge ideological war, this war of ideas, where people are putting really stupid ideas out there, and we're believing. [34:26.560 --> 34:39.560] And one of the lies that we've been told is community rights. And I haven't pronounced that properly. [34:39.560 --> 34:50.560] Whenever you say that phrase, you're supposed to say it very lovingly, very liberal. It's community rights. Like you want to have a group hug afterwards, that's the proper way to pronounce that. [34:50.560 --> 35:08.560] And the idea is that community rights somehow supersede individual rights. That yes, you may have some individual rights, but if we get a community together, that the community rights are more important or they somehow trump individual rights. [35:08.560 --> 35:21.560] And that's nonsense, absolute nonsense. You know, the community has a right to a nice clean neighborhood, so we're not going to let you park your boat in your driveway. [35:21.560 --> 35:33.560] Well, if it's my boat in my driveway, I will park that boat anywhere I want. And if I know that irritates you, maybe I'll put my Mercedes Benz up on cinder blocks, too, just to, you know, freak you out. [35:33.560 --> 35:53.560] The idea that your individual rights can be superseded is philosophical nonsense, but if we can convince you that the community is more important, then we can get you to voluntarily waive your individual rights. [35:53.560 --> 36:03.560] We can get you to stop fighting for your individual rights and just kind of volunteer to give all that up because a group of people voted. [36:03.560 --> 36:10.560] It's the worst kind of peer pressure that anybody can apply. [36:10.560 --> 36:20.560] Now, another lie that we've been told over and over and over again is the greatest good for the greatest number. [36:20.560 --> 36:24.560] You know, many of your listeners are probably familiar with where that comes from. [36:24.560 --> 36:34.560] That comes directly from the Communist Manifesto and from each according to his ability to each according to his need. [36:34.560 --> 36:42.560] And everybody is just supposed to work and then the government will dish out all of the resources and everybody's going to be perfectly happy. [36:42.560 --> 36:50.560] Well, it's based on a lie. I mean, it sounds really good, the greatest good for the greatest number. [36:50.560 --> 36:52.560] We're just going to maximize happiness. [36:52.560 --> 36:58.560] We're just going to follow these simple rules and everybody is going to be about as happy as you possibly can be. [36:58.560 --> 37:08.560] The problem with the idea is that it assumes that we are all part of the Borg, that we're all part of this organism, and we're not. [37:08.560 --> 37:18.560] We are individuals. You know, if I stay awake until 2 o'clock in the morning, I get smarter, but your IQ does not increase. [37:18.560 --> 37:25.560] You know, if I wake up in the morning and I eat a dozen donuts, you do not gain weight. [37:25.560 --> 37:28.560] I'm the one that starts to tip the scale a little bit heavier. [37:28.560 --> 37:36.560] And if I smack my thumb with a hammer, you know, you may think I'm pretty stupid, but you do not feel my pain [37:36.560 --> 37:40.560] because we are all individual. [37:40.560 --> 37:45.560] And each of us has an individual list of priorities. [37:45.560 --> 37:48.560] We each pursue happiness a different way. [37:48.560 --> 37:57.560] And the only way that you can maximize the great – the only way that you can achieve the greatest good for the greatest number [37:57.560 --> 38:04.560] is to assiduously, constantly defend individual rights in every single case. [38:04.560 --> 38:13.560] And that's the only way that we can maximize happiness in the community is to defend individual rights. [38:13.560 --> 38:16.560] Let me give a counterexample. [38:16.560 --> 38:20.560] Let us assume that, I don't know, we're talking about some community. [38:20.560 --> 38:22.560] Let's talk about Austin, Texas. [38:22.560 --> 38:28.560] And we count up the number of people and we do an evaluation of how much food is available. [38:28.560 --> 38:31.560] And it turns out there's really not enough food for everybody. [38:31.560 --> 38:41.560] And it may be for the greater good of the community basically to eliminate maybe 100 people in Austin. [38:41.560 --> 38:43.560] And only 100 people, that's all we have to do. [38:43.560 --> 38:45.560] We just reduce the population by 100. [38:45.560 --> 38:54.560] Now, if by some lunatic set of arguments I can convince the community to eliminate 100 people, [38:54.560 --> 38:58.560] what happened to those 100 people's individual rights? [38:58.560 --> 39:05.560] We violated their individual rights for some perception that the community, [39:05.560 --> 39:08.560] the greater community is going to be improved. [39:08.560 --> 39:14.560] Well, if I can convince people to eliminate 100 people in Austin today, [39:14.560 --> 39:19.560] well, then we can come up with another reason next week and another reason the following week. [39:19.560 --> 39:24.560] And as we eventually eliminate people in Austin, you know, [39:24.560 --> 39:30.560] we're going to be lacking lots of people eliminated until there's no community. [39:30.560 --> 39:38.560] We don't start with a big ball of community and then shave off little slivers of individual. [39:38.560 --> 39:40.560] That's the cart before the horse. [39:40.560 --> 39:48.560] We start with individuals and they are always individuals whether they are part of the community or not. [39:48.560 --> 39:53.560] And a given individual may join the community and may leave the community. [39:53.560 --> 39:59.560] If I go and sign up for the YMCA, you know, I become a member of that YMCA community, [39:59.560 --> 40:02.560] but I'm not obligated to stay there. [40:02.560 --> 40:07.560] You know, if I decide that I'm spending money every month and have decided not to use the pool [40:07.560 --> 40:10.560] and not to, you know, lift weights, it's really a waste of my money [40:10.560 --> 40:14.560] and I can choose to leave the community any time I want. [40:14.560 --> 40:17.560] That's one of my individual rights. [40:17.560 --> 40:22.560] And this whole idea of community rights is a lie. [40:22.560 --> 40:23.560] It's a very tempting lie. [40:23.560 --> 40:30.560] People tell it very, very well, but there are no community rights. [40:30.560 --> 40:34.560] It's a fictitious concept. [40:34.560 --> 40:38.560] And the only kind of rights that we have are individual rights. [40:38.560 --> 40:46.560] And the same thing is true if I am black or if I'm gay or if I'm a woman. [40:46.560 --> 40:54.560] I mean, being a member of those subclasses does not grant you some additional right [40:54.560 --> 40:56.560] that nobody else has. [40:56.560 --> 40:59.560] It certainly sounds tempting. [40:59.560 --> 41:03.560] You know, it certainly sounds tempting to get some additional benefit, [41:03.560 --> 41:09.560] but what you're asking the government to do is to ultimately take property away [41:09.560 --> 41:15.560] from anyone who's not in your group and give it to the people in your group, [41:15.560 --> 41:27.560] which is that is exactly what's happening with this whole concept of appropriations. [41:27.560 --> 41:30.560] What the black people are claiming is that... [41:30.560 --> 41:31.560] Reparations. [41:31.560 --> 41:33.560] Reparations, reparations. [41:33.560 --> 41:37.560] This whole reparations argument is a specious argument. [41:37.560 --> 41:41.560] I mean, let me start by saying that slavery is a terrible thing. [41:41.560 --> 41:45.560] And the fact that America started with... [41:45.560 --> 41:53.560] I mean, our Constitution supposedly grants black people three-fifths of a person. [41:53.560 --> 41:58.560] Okay, that's a 60% increase in personhood than they had before the Constitution. [41:58.560 --> 42:02.560] But still, the idea is that this is in the Constitution. [42:02.560 --> 42:04.560] It's an embarrassing part of our history. [42:04.560 --> 42:06.560] Slavery is terrible and awful. [42:06.560 --> 42:11.560] Nobody, I don't care what color you are, what gender you are, what your sexual preference is, [42:11.560 --> 42:15.560] nobody should be forced to work for somebody else for no pay. [42:15.560 --> 42:16.560] Nobody. [42:16.560 --> 42:18.560] I'm absolutely opposed to that. [42:18.560 --> 42:26.560] But the idea that black people today deserve money from white people today [42:26.560 --> 42:30.560] because black people in history have been slaves [42:30.560 --> 42:35.560] and the white people in history have been slave owners, it's ridiculous. [42:35.560 --> 42:41.560] I mean, you have never been a slave, and so you don't get any of the money. [42:41.560 --> 42:45.560] So if you can find somebody who is still alive who was a slave [42:45.560 --> 42:49.560] and find another white person who was a slave owner, [42:49.560 --> 42:52.560] okay, maybe we have some reparation going on there. [42:52.560 --> 43:00.560] But this class action suit is a complete denial of individuality, [43:00.560 --> 43:10.560] a complete denial of private property, and it just tears at the very fabric [43:10.560 --> 43:16.560] upon which this country was supposedly built. [43:16.560 --> 43:22.560] Yes, and we hear about this a lot and don't think of it that way. 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[45:05.560 --> 45:17.560] Music [45:17.560 --> 45:23.560] If you did not have any problems, where are you going to look for one? [45:23.560 --> 45:29.560] If you could not wait any longer, would you purposefully die? [45:29.560 --> 45:35.560] Such a symptom of the soldier, a warrior of love, scuffling that keeps him heat. [45:35.560 --> 45:38.560] All they're taking is a misunderstanding. [45:38.560 --> 45:46.560] Somebody calls the police, watching the sparks fly. [45:46.560 --> 46:03.560] Music [46:03.560 --> 46:08.560] All right, watching the sparks fly here on the rule of law. [46:08.560 --> 46:15.560] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Michael Baden-Erik, very special close friend of ours, [46:15.560 --> 46:19.560] Mr. Michael Baden-Erik, very blessed and honored to have him on the show tonight. [46:19.560 --> 46:21.560] We are taking your calls. [46:21.560 --> 46:23.560] Callers, please stay on point. [46:23.560 --> 46:26.560] We are going to Daryl in California. [46:26.560 --> 46:29.560] Daryl, what is your question for our guest, Michael Baden-Erik? [46:29.560 --> 46:33.560] Well, unfortunately, it's not on point, but Jeff suggested I raise a question [46:33.560 --> 46:40.560] about a lifestyle thing which just was on your break advertisement there. [46:40.560 --> 46:42.560] Can I do that? [46:42.560 --> 46:47.560] We'd rather keep the topic on point for our guest. [46:47.560 --> 46:48.560] Okay. [46:48.560 --> 46:49.560] Okay. [46:49.560 --> 46:50.560] Yes. [46:50.560 --> 46:51.560] Thank you, Mamie. [46:51.560 --> 46:52.560] Call back tomorrow night. [46:52.560 --> 46:53.560] Okay. [46:53.560 --> 46:54.560] Okay. [46:54.560 --> 46:56.560] We're going to Crystal in Texas. [46:56.560 --> 46:58.560] Crystal, thanks for calling in. [46:58.560 --> 47:02.560] What is your question or comment for our guest, Michael Baden-Erik? [47:02.560 --> 47:06.560] It's not on point, but it's a constitutional question. [47:06.560 --> 47:07.560] I have court tomorrow. [47:07.560 --> 47:11.560] Do I have to represent myself? [47:11.560 --> 47:13.560] I'm sorry, I didn't hear the question. [47:13.560 --> 47:16.560] It got garbled. [47:16.560 --> 47:22.560] I have court tomorrow, and my question is, do I have to represent myself? [47:22.560 --> 47:25.560] You can represent yourself. [47:25.560 --> 47:28.560] Nobody is going to defend your rights better than you will, [47:28.560 --> 47:37.560] but you're in a statutory court which puts you at a disadvantage, [47:37.560 --> 47:42.560] and something that I go into in my eight-hour Constitution class, [47:42.560 --> 47:50.560] Article 3 of the Constitution specifies common law, equity law, and admiralty law, [47:50.560 --> 47:56.560] and that's what you need in order to have due process of law, [47:56.560 --> 48:01.560] and what they've done ever since 1933 is they've invented another level of law [48:01.560 --> 48:04.560] called statutory law, which is private law. [48:04.560 --> 48:08.560] The judges and lawyers all have this law copyrighted, [48:08.560 --> 48:14.560] and unfortunately when you walk in and the judge asks you how you plead, [48:14.560 --> 48:20.560] if you say not guilty, you've just acquiesced to the jurisdiction of the court. [48:20.560 --> 48:24.560] You've basically said that you're willing to play the judge's silly little game [48:24.560 --> 48:26.560] even though you don't know the rule, [48:26.560 --> 48:35.560] and what most people are unaware of is that the Constitution doesn't apply in a statutory jurisdiction. [48:35.560 --> 48:44.560] But in a statutory jurisdiction, you always can bring counsel. [48:44.560 --> 48:48.560] Sometimes there are certain cases where you can't represent yourself, [48:48.560 --> 48:52.560] for instance, a capital murder case, [48:52.560 --> 48:57.560] but most everything else you can represent yourself if you want to. [48:57.560 --> 49:02.560] The judges don't like it, but you can always be represented by counsel. [49:02.560 --> 49:07.560] If that was your question, you can always get an attorney. [49:07.560 --> 49:12.560] I've asked for a court-appointed attorney, and I was not granted one. [49:12.560 --> 49:15.560] I was supposed to hire an attorney and come back. [49:15.560 --> 49:22.560] Is it a traffic ticket? [49:22.560 --> 49:25.560] I do not have the means to hire an attorney, [49:25.560 --> 49:31.560] and so do they have to force me to continue with that one? [49:31.560 --> 49:33.560] Yes. [49:33.560 --> 49:42.560] In that case, the only time you have a right to an attorney is in a criminal case, [49:42.560 --> 49:49.560] and they have essentially denied you that right to an attorney in traffic case. [49:49.560 --> 49:54.560] They're trying to straddle this line between criminal and civil. [49:54.560 --> 49:57.560] See, if I go into a lawsuit, I can bring an attorney, [49:57.560 --> 50:01.560] but I don't have a constitutional right to one. [50:01.560 --> 50:06.560] In criminal, I have the right to counsel. [50:06.560 --> 50:11.560] So if you can't afford one, if you come in without one, they will appoint you one, but not in traffic. [50:11.560 --> 50:13.560] Traffic's not going to make any difference anyway. [50:13.560 --> 50:19.560] If you hire an attorney, he's going to get you the same deal you could get if you go in by yourself. [50:19.560 --> 50:27.560] If you try to fight it in these courts until we can get the courts back, [50:27.560 --> 50:34.560] unless you have a really, really good argument, they almost rule against you out of hand. [50:34.560 --> 50:41.560] That's because we forgot about our Constitution. [50:41.560 --> 50:45.560] Is this a court case, Crystal, a traffic case? [50:45.560 --> 50:47.560] No, this is family law. [50:47.560 --> 50:48.560] Okay. [50:48.560 --> 50:52.560] And I'm homeless and losing custody of my kids because of it. [50:52.560 --> 50:54.560] Right. [50:54.560 --> 51:01.560] And so I don't have the means to hire an attorney because of my income, [51:01.560 --> 51:09.560] and so I've asked for a court-appointed attorney, and they told me to hire one, and I'm unable to do that. [51:09.560 --> 51:15.560] Then you might want to petition a higher court for a writ of mandamus. [51:15.560 --> 51:17.560] Mandamus means mandate. [51:17.560 --> 51:23.560] Ask a higher court, make your argument to the next higher court, and say, I can't afford an attorney, [51:23.560 --> 51:25.560] and they won't give me one. [51:25.560 --> 51:29.560] Crystal, you have a hearing tomorrow, is that right? [51:29.560 --> 51:31.560] Yes, ma'am. [51:31.560 --> 51:35.560] Okay, and what is the hearing tomorrow? [51:35.560 --> 51:39.560] What advice, what can we, well, I don't want to say advice. [51:39.560 --> 51:44.560] We don't give legal advice, but what can we do to help Crystal for tomorrow? [51:44.560 --> 51:50.560] What is it, Crystal, what is the nature of the hearing tomorrow? [51:50.560 --> 51:57.560] Well, the nature of the hearing is the father is keeping the child [51:57.560 --> 52:01.560] because I'm in between houses and staying with family right now, [52:01.560 --> 52:05.560] and so they're using it against me that because I'm homeless. [52:05.560 --> 52:09.560] So it's a, well, basically it's a custody hearing, is that correct? [52:09.560 --> 52:11.560] Yes, ma'am. [52:11.560 --> 52:13.560] Okay, I have a couple of questions. [52:13.560 --> 52:15.560] Are you a drug addict? [52:15.560 --> 52:18.560] No. [52:18.560 --> 52:24.560] Are there, is there anything else in your history that's really, really horrible? [52:24.560 --> 52:26.560] No. [52:26.560 --> 52:29.560] You're going to get the kids back. [52:29.560 --> 52:36.560] The husband may get temporary custody, but in Texas, if you're not a drug addict, [52:36.560 --> 52:39.560] the drug addict will cost you your children, [52:39.560 --> 52:45.560] or if you haven't done anything that clearly demonstrates that you're an unfit mother, [52:45.560 --> 52:47.560] you get the children. [52:47.560 --> 52:48.560] That's just how it works. [52:48.560 --> 52:54.560] They may take the children temporarily while you don't have a place, [52:54.560 --> 52:57.560] but once you get a place, you will get them back. [52:57.560 --> 53:06.560] So, you know, the guys in this regard, they scream bloody murder at the injustice of it. [53:06.560 --> 53:10.560] But that's generally how it works in Texas. [53:10.560 --> 53:18.560] The mother gets the children unless she's done something absolutely reprehensible. [53:18.560 --> 53:24.560] So you may, and it may be best for your children if someone who can give them a good stable home [53:24.560 --> 53:29.560] until you get back on your feet, if they go with them. [53:29.560 --> 53:35.560] But in the end, when you become established, you will get the children back. [53:35.560 --> 53:38.560] I can almost guarantee that. [53:38.560 --> 53:43.560] Guys don't get the kids. [53:43.560 --> 53:44.560] Okay, thank you. [53:44.560 --> 53:45.560] I appreciate it. [53:45.560 --> 53:47.560] Thank you, Crystal. [53:47.560 --> 53:48.560] Good luck. [53:48.560 --> 53:49.560] Thanks. [53:49.560 --> 53:50.560] Bye-bye. [53:50.560 --> 53:55.560] Okay, we're going now to Randy in Texas. [53:55.560 --> 53:56.560] Randy, thanks for calling in. [53:56.560 --> 54:00.560] What is your question or comment for our guest, Michael Banerich? [54:00.560 --> 54:04.560] Michael, I wanted to know, are you familiar with the Act of 1871 [54:04.560 --> 54:10.560] where the Congress took the Constitution of the United States of America [54:10.560 --> 54:19.560] and statutized it and made a federal constitution, a mere statute of this law that is the Constitution of the United States? [54:19.560 --> 54:22.560] And do you talk about that? [54:22.560 --> 54:23.560] I don't. [54:23.560 --> 54:24.560] I'm not that familiar with it. [54:24.560 --> 54:34.560] Most of my study has been on the period between 1760 and 1791. [54:34.560 --> 54:36.560] And I talk about principles. [54:36.560 --> 54:38.560] A lot of people are real surprised. [54:38.560 --> 54:42.560] They, you know, we'll get into a discussion and all of a sudden they go, [54:42.560 --> 54:48.560] well, what about, you know, the Supreme Court said this and somebody else said that and this law is printed on paper. [54:48.560 --> 54:51.560] And I go, I really don't care. [54:51.560 --> 54:52.560] You know, I don't know. [54:52.560 --> 54:59.560] And we can sit around and argue what the Constitution did say or what it was supposed to mean. [54:59.560 --> 55:01.560] But that was then. [55:01.560 --> 55:02.560] This is now. [55:02.560 --> 55:06.560] What I want to talk about is how things should be right now. [55:06.560 --> 55:09.560] And if they're not that way, let's fix it. [55:09.560 --> 55:11.560] Let's change it. [55:11.560 --> 55:13.560] Now, they also. [55:13.560 --> 55:20.560] Wouldn't it be important to realize maybe which Constitution these guys are operating under because there's no law? [55:20.560 --> 55:25.560] Most of what the government does is unconstitutional and it's based on fraud. [55:25.560 --> 55:34.560] And they've done a lot of things behind the scenes and the 1871 thing sounds like another one, [55:34.560 --> 55:38.560] that, you know, you and a small handful of people are familiar with. [55:38.560 --> 55:42.560] I'd love you to send that to me via email if you could. [55:42.560 --> 55:43.560] Sure. [55:43.560 --> 55:44.560] Yeah. [55:44.560 --> 55:54.560] I mean, basically the way I look at this is in 1871, you know, shortly after the Civil War, they took the Constitution [55:54.560 --> 55:57.560] and then they passed it as a law of the Congress. [55:57.560 --> 55:59.560] So now it's under them. [55:59.560 --> 56:04.560] Well, what authority did the Congress have to do that? [56:04.560 --> 56:09.560] Well, they were creating basically what they were saying. [56:09.560 --> 56:14.560] And let me, it was the 41st Congress. [56:14.560 --> 56:17.560] It was February 21, 1871. [56:17.560 --> 56:22.560] And it's an act to provide a government for the District of Columbia. [56:22.560 --> 56:23.560] Right. [56:23.560 --> 56:29.560] And so basically they created this separate municipal government for the District of Columbia. [56:29.560 --> 56:33.560] But why would they do that? [56:33.560 --> 56:36.560] So now we have two constitutions. [56:36.560 --> 56:37.560] Right. [56:37.560 --> 56:39.560] They would do it because of fraud. [56:39.560 --> 56:42.560] One of them they have total authority over because it's their law, [56:42.560 --> 56:45.560] and one of them is the one we're supposed to be operating under. [56:45.560 --> 56:48.560] But I suspect that they act like we're under the other one. [56:48.560 --> 56:49.560] Right. [56:49.560 --> 56:53.560] They act that way, and the reason they do it in secret is [56:53.560 --> 56:58.560] because if the American people realized how they were being screwed over politically, [56:58.560 --> 57:03.560] they would rise up and they wouldn't be burning these people in effigy. [57:03.560 --> 57:08.560] Man, they'd be tarn feathering the people who are responsible for it. [57:08.560 --> 57:15.560] So the people who are evil and criminal do this kind of stuff quietly, secretly, [57:15.560 --> 57:21.560] and behind the scenes, and they invent these new rules and they say, [57:21.560 --> 57:24.560] okay, we give ourselves this power. [57:24.560 --> 57:28.560] And then they operate as if they have that power. [57:28.560 --> 57:31.560] Most people can't tell you how many articles are in the Constitution, [57:31.560 --> 57:35.560] so when the police officer walks up with a gun in his hip and says, [57:35.560 --> 57:39.560] okay, this is what you're going to do, people are intimidated to follow along [57:39.560 --> 57:41.560] because, well, gosh, he's a police officer. [57:41.560 --> 57:44.560] He must know what he's talking about. [57:44.560 --> 57:46.560] And typically they don't. [57:46.560 --> 57:50.560] So I've not heard of this particular act. [57:50.560 --> 57:53.560] I'd love to have you send it to me at my email address, [57:53.560 --> 58:00.560] scholaratconstitutionpreservation.org. [58:00.560 --> 58:04.560] I'm always interested in the trivia, but as far as I'm concerned, [58:04.560 --> 58:10.560] it has no force in law. [58:10.560 --> 58:12.560] I hear the music, so I'll wait. [58:12.560 --> 58:13.560] All right. [58:13.560 --> 58:15.560] Okay, we'll come back after the hour. [58:15.560 --> 58:18.560] Yeah, we'll come back at the top of the hour. [58:18.560 --> 58:20.560] Randy, hold on. [58:20.560 --> 58:44.560] This is The Rule of Law with Michael Badneric, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens. [58:44.560 --> 59:12.560] Thank you very much. [59:12.560 --> 59:15.560] Thank you very much. [59:42.560 --> 01:00:05.560] You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com, [01:00:05.560 --> 01:00:23.560] a live free speech talk radio at its best. [01:00:23.560 --> 01:00:24.560] Okay, we are back. [01:00:24.560 --> 01:00:29.560] Top of the hour, The Rule of Law. [01:00:29.560 --> 01:00:33.560] Very special guest, Michael Badneric. [01:00:33.560 --> 01:00:38.560] And we are speaking with our caller Randy from Texas, [01:00:38.560 --> 01:00:44.560] talking about the Constitution and District of Columbia. [01:00:44.560 --> 01:00:46.560] Randy, go ahead. [01:00:46.560 --> 01:00:51.560] Well, I was going to say, you know, if we have these two constitutions, [01:00:51.560 --> 01:00:56.560] one is mere statutory law under the, so, you know, under that Constitution, [01:00:56.560 --> 01:01:02.560] the Congress could do whatever it wills, and it operates in federal places. [01:01:02.560 --> 01:01:09.560] What if you have corporate statutory or, you know, non-constitutional type states [01:01:09.560 --> 01:01:11.560] that we have now, the 50 states, [01:01:11.560 --> 01:01:16.560] and they just extended this out over their subjects who they are, [01:01:16.560 --> 01:01:21.560] they consider the 14th Amendment to be United States citizens? [01:01:21.560 --> 01:01:23.560] Because that would apply to, [01:01:23.560 --> 01:01:27.560] and that would explain a whole lot of what they're doing because they make an assumption, [01:01:27.560 --> 01:01:31.560] hey, you said you're a United States citizen, this is your Constitution, [01:01:31.560 --> 01:01:33.560] you're under arrest. [01:01:33.560 --> 01:01:35.560] But it's based on fraud. [01:01:35.560 --> 01:01:41.560] I don't think it's based on fraud, but if you don't, what do you call it, [01:01:41.560 --> 01:01:44.560] challenge it, then that's it. [01:01:44.560 --> 01:01:46.560] Well, I understand. [01:01:46.560 --> 01:01:48.560] I agree with you. [01:01:48.560 --> 01:01:52.560] But if the government says that I'm a seven-foot-tall purple rabbit, [01:01:52.560 --> 01:01:57.560] that doesn't make me a seven-foot-tall purple rabbit just because they've said so. [01:01:57.560 --> 01:02:02.560] You know, and the first thing that I need to do is to reject the idea [01:02:02.560 --> 01:02:06.560] and just kind of state the obvious that, you know, hey, guys, [01:02:06.560 --> 01:02:08.560] I'm not a seven-foot-tall purple rabbit. [01:02:08.560 --> 01:02:13.560] The government is claiming that I am a United States citizen [01:02:13.560 --> 01:02:16.560] subject to the jurisdiction of Congress. [01:02:16.560 --> 01:02:20.560] I've already gone through the trouble of typing up an affidavit of sovereignty [01:02:20.560 --> 01:02:23.560] explaining that I'm not a United States citizen. [01:02:23.560 --> 01:02:25.560] I am not subject to Congress. [01:02:25.560 --> 01:02:27.560] I am one of we, the people. [01:02:27.560 --> 01:02:30.560] I have, you know, individual, unalienable rights, [01:02:30.560 --> 01:02:35.560] and I will never have a concealed carry permit. [01:02:35.560 --> 01:02:36.560] I don't need a driver's license. [01:02:36.560 --> 01:02:39.560] I don't need government permission to do anything. [01:02:39.560 --> 01:02:42.560] The only thing I'm required to do is to not hurt, you know, [01:02:42.560 --> 01:02:44.560] somebody else or steal their property. [01:02:44.560 --> 01:02:47.560] As long as I've not violated somebody else's rights, [01:02:47.560 --> 01:02:50.560] the government can't touch me. [01:02:50.560 --> 01:02:52.560] And I agree with that. [01:02:52.560 --> 01:02:56.560] But how many people have, you know, said, hey, I'm a United States citizen [01:02:56.560 --> 01:02:57.560] by the tree? [01:02:57.560 --> 01:02:58.560] Well, I understand. [01:02:58.560 --> 01:02:59.560] It's a deception. [01:02:59.560 --> 01:03:00.560] I know. [01:03:00.560 --> 01:03:01.560] It's fraud. [01:03:01.560 --> 01:03:05.560] So what I do is I go around teaching eight-hour class on the Constitution, [01:03:05.560 --> 01:03:09.560] teaching people the fraud and getting them all lathered up to go, [01:03:09.560 --> 01:03:12.560] wait a minute, I'm not a seven-foot-tall purple rabbit. [01:03:12.560 --> 01:03:19.560] So, you know, again, just because it's written on paper doesn't mean a thing. [01:03:19.560 --> 01:03:22.560] You know, the Constitution is only a piece of paper. [01:03:22.560 --> 01:03:28.560] It's up to we the people to defend the ideas that are written on that piece of paper. [01:03:28.560 --> 01:03:31.560] If we don't defend those ideas, [01:03:31.560 --> 01:03:34.560] then the United States will just become a communist country [01:03:34.560 --> 01:03:36.560] and a totalitarian dictatorship, [01:03:36.560 --> 01:03:38.560] and eventually they'll burn the Constitution, [01:03:38.560 --> 01:03:42.560] shred the Bill of Rights, and at that point nobody will seem to care. [01:03:42.560 --> 01:03:46.560] So if we the people don't care about what the Constitution says, [01:03:46.560 --> 01:03:52.560] we haven't learned those ideas, that's why I say that this is an ideological war. [01:03:52.560 --> 01:03:57.560] You know, they have the idea that we're United States citizens subject to their, [01:03:57.560 --> 01:04:01.560] you know, jurisdiction, and I've got the idea that I am sovereign, [01:04:01.560 --> 01:04:05.560] that I'm individual, and that they can't force me to work for them, [01:04:05.560 --> 01:04:08.560] they can't force me to think a certain way, [01:04:08.560 --> 01:04:13.560] and that, you know, I have individual rights and as a government entity [01:04:13.560 --> 01:04:16.560] they only have privileges. [01:04:16.560 --> 01:04:20.560] So, you know, I may die in a hail of gunfire at some point in the future [01:04:20.560 --> 01:04:25.560] trying to defend those ideas, but that's kind of the way it is. [01:04:25.560 --> 01:04:28.560] If I can't teach enough people in the United States, you know, [01:04:28.560 --> 01:04:30.560] the way things I think they should be, [01:04:30.560 --> 01:04:37.560] and they don't join me in this effort, then the liberty is a lost cause. [01:04:37.560 --> 01:04:43.560] So the, you know, the document, the 1817 document that you're talking about is just, [01:04:43.560 --> 01:04:51.560] oh, not 1817, 1871, is just more evidence of the corruption and fraud [01:04:51.560 --> 01:04:53.560] that the government has perpetrated against the people [01:04:53.560 --> 01:05:00.560] living on this part of the North American continent. [01:05:00.560 --> 01:05:05.560] But just because they have a piece of paper doesn't give them automatic credibility. [01:05:05.560 --> 01:05:10.560] Yeah, and the whole idea of citizenship or is it state citizenship [01:05:10.560 --> 01:05:16.560] or federal citizenship or whatever, that doesn't mean anything to me anyway [01:05:16.560 --> 01:05:23.560] because the whole idea is we need to get back to the fundamental principles, okay, [01:05:23.560 --> 01:05:27.560] of liberty and freedom and property, [01:05:27.560 --> 01:05:31.560] and that our rights derive from property ownership [01:05:31.560 --> 01:05:38.560] and there's no such thing as group rights, okay, all these sort of things. [01:05:38.560 --> 01:05:43.560] There was never a federal citizenship of the United, you know, [01:05:43.560 --> 01:05:46.560] citizenship of the United States until the 14th Amendment. [01:05:46.560 --> 01:05:47.560] That's right. [01:05:47.560 --> 01:05:50.560] And all of it came about after the Civil War. [01:05:50.560 --> 01:05:56.560] And they did, during the Senate, you know, the Congress, sendai, [01:05:56.560 --> 01:06:00.560] which means without day, so that they did break the Constitution [01:06:00.560 --> 01:06:02.560] and what was it, 1861. [01:06:02.560 --> 01:06:03.560] Right. [01:06:03.560 --> 01:06:06.560] And so, I mean, and then they, you know, kept it going [01:06:06.560 --> 01:06:08.560] and then they had the Reconstruction Acts, [01:06:08.560 --> 01:06:11.560] which are still in full force and effective today. [01:06:11.560 --> 01:06:15.560] So do you think that any of that has any effect on you? [01:06:15.560 --> 01:06:18.560] I don't believe it does, but the thing is when you walk into court, [01:06:18.560 --> 01:06:22.560] unless you can rebut it, they operate as if it does. [01:06:22.560 --> 01:06:25.560] And the problem is people have no idea whatsoever. [01:06:25.560 --> 01:06:27.560] They've just been totally lied to. [01:06:27.560 --> 01:06:30.560] Well, I hope that you'll send me a copy of that [01:06:30.560 --> 01:06:32.560] and I hope that you'll continue lighting the fires of liberty [01:06:32.560 --> 01:06:35.560] by teaching people what you know about it. [01:06:35.560 --> 01:06:38.560] You know, when the people realize that the government is, you know, [01:06:38.560 --> 01:06:44.560] the greatest fraud in human history, they'll fix it. [01:06:44.560 --> 01:06:46.560] We're well on our way. [01:06:46.560 --> 01:06:48.560] We don't have all the time for the rest of the listeners, [01:06:48.560 --> 01:06:49.560] so I'll let you guys go. [01:06:49.560 --> 01:06:53.560] But I just wanted to mention that to see if you had any, you know, [01:06:53.560 --> 01:06:54.560] or had heard of it, [01:06:54.560 --> 01:06:57.560] because it seems to kind of slip under the radar a lot of times [01:06:57.560 --> 01:06:59.560] because it happened way back when, [01:06:59.560 --> 01:07:02.560] and it's kind of interesting that we actually have the two constitutions. [01:07:02.560 --> 01:07:05.560] Well, send me a copy. [01:07:05.560 --> 01:07:06.560] We'll do it. [01:07:06.560 --> 01:07:07.560] Thank you, Randy. [01:07:07.560 --> 01:07:08.560] Thanks. [01:07:08.560 --> 01:07:09.560] Good night. [01:07:09.560 --> 01:07:10.560] Good night. [01:07:10.560 --> 01:07:11.560] Okay. [01:07:11.560 --> 01:07:14.560] Along those lines, Michael, I had a question for you [01:07:14.560 --> 01:07:22.560] that I've been contemplating all day concerning injured parties, okay, [01:07:22.560 --> 01:07:25.560] and the role of government. [01:07:25.560 --> 01:07:32.560] It seems clear to me that the role of government [01:07:32.560 --> 01:07:38.560] is simply to protect an individual's life, liberty, and property [01:07:38.560 --> 01:07:42.560] if there even should be a government at all. [01:07:42.560 --> 01:07:46.560] And I agree with what John Bush was saying earlier last night [01:07:46.560 --> 01:07:56.560] that we as human beings should be and are evolving more and more [01:07:56.560 --> 01:08:01.560] to a state where we should need more and more restrictions [01:08:01.560 --> 01:08:06.560] and government control and statism, but rather less and less, [01:08:06.560 --> 01:08:12.560] and that we should be more and more governing ourselves. [01:08:12.560 --> 01:08:18.560] And what is the role of government other than to protect an individual's life, [01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:21.560] liberty, and property, and nothing else, [01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:28.560] i.e. enforcing the non-aggression truce, okay? [01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:33.560] And so this comes down to who is the injured party, [01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:40.560] and we're facing all kinds of quote-unquote laws, statutory laws, codes, et cetera, [01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:45.560] red light cameras, on and on and on, and who is the injured party? [01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:47.560] But the state says they're the injured party. [01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:49.560] Well, who is the state, we the people? [01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:51.560] Well, if somebody runs the red light, [01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:56.560] but they're not crashing into another car and killing themselves, [01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:58.560] well, who's the injured party, [01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:03.560] and why should they have to pay the state, i.e. taxes compensating we the people? [01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:06.560] And how do we deal with this situation? [01:09:06.560 --> 01:09:10.560] Because it's my fundamental belief that if there's not an injured party, [01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:13.560] then a crime has not been committed. [01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:17.560] And so can you please address this issue? [01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:18.560] Well, you are correct. [01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:22.560] If there is no injured party, there is no crime, [01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:28.560] but that applies only to common law, which is what the Constitution is. [01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:31.560] And as our previous caller has indicated, [01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:36.560] we've gotten so far afield from what the Constitution actually says [01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:41.560] that we have now replaced common law with statutory law. [01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:46.560] And under statutory law, the government is in charge, [01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:53.560] and we are merely pawns in their big chess game. [01:09:53.560 --> 01:10:01.560] And it's only under statutory law that you can have compelled performance. [01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:05.560] The government can force you to do things that you normally wouldn't want to do [01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:10.560] because, again, we have gotten away from the Constitution [01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:17.560] where we the people created Congress and that Congress works for us. [01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:20.560] And we can point to a lot of different ways, [01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:23.560] a lot of different places where it happened little by little. [01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:27.560] But right now we operate on a system where I'm from the government, [01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:31.560] I'm here to help, and everybody's blood runs cold. [01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:40.560] So the injured party that you keep talking about is a wonderful idea, [01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:47.560] but the idea is only relevant in a Constitutional venue. [01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:54.560] People need to understand the importance of jurisdiction, [01:10:54.560 --> 01:10:57.560] and typically they don't. [01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:01.560] Let's pretend that I am an expert on football. [01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:07.560] I am just so smart about football that when John Madden has a question, he calls me. [01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:10.560] So I know all the answers about football and got it off the top of my head, [01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:15.560] and I go stand on second base, and I raise my hands over my head [01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:17.560] and I yell, touchdown. [01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:22.560] Well, how many points do you think the umpire is going to give me standing on second base? [01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:24.560] The answer is none. [01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:27.560] He's going to say, you there with the funny shoulder pads, [01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:32.560] get the hell off my baseball then, and go, well, wait a minute, I've studied football. [01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:34.560] I know that touchdown is an important thing to say. [01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:39.560] Well, it may be an important thing to say, you know, on the gridiron, [01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:43.560] when you're standing on the football field, that's a perfectly legitimate thing to say. [01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:48.560] But standing on second base, you've got a whole different set of rules. [01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:55.560] And so people don't realize that the rules in the United States have been changed. [01:11:55.560 --> 01:12:01.560] The people who study the Constitution think that they're still playing football, [01:12:01.560 --> 01:12:05.560] except that statutory laws are a completely different set of rules. [01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:07.560] The Constitution does not apply. [01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:13.560] A personal friend of mine, Rick Stanley, holstered a gun in Denver, [01:12:13.560 --> 01:12:19.560] went to court explicitly so he could use the Constitution to defend himself in the Second Amendment, [01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:26.560] and the judge told him and his attorney that you're not allowed to mention the Constitution in my court. [01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:28.560] You're not allowed to ask questions about the Constitution. [01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:29.560] You're not allowed to mention it. [01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:30.560] You're a voir dire. [01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:35.560] You know, you're not allowed to quiz the jurors on the Constitution. [01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:39.560] You're not allowed to mention the Constitution in this court. [01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:41.560] And everybody was stunned. [01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:47.560] Nobody could believe that any judge in the United States could tell you that, you know, [01:12:47.560 --> 01:12:51.560] the Constitution, the Supreme Law of Land, was not allowed to be mentioned. [01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:58.560] Well, it's a true fact, because in statutory jurisdiction, the Constitution doesn't apply. [01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:07.560] It doesn't apply in a statutory jurisdiction any more than the U.S. Constitution would apply in a French court. [01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:13.560] So once people begin to understand the importance of jurisdiction [01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:19.560] and questioning the jurisdiction that they're in, then they're going to have a little bit more success. [01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:26.560] But any time you walk into any court in the United States these days, traffic court or otherwise, [01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:33.560] you are in a statutory jurisdiction, and they're not going to bother to tell you. [01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:38.560] And that's why everything seems so screwed up. [01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:43.560] Yes, so if you're stuck in a statutory court, at least be good with the statutory court, [01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:51.560] because the problem that the Constitution is not there is not as bad as it seems, [01:13:51.560 --> 01:14:02.560] because essentially in statute, all of the rights granted by Constitution also are reflected in statute. [01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:03.560] Right. [01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:11.560] So I was disappointed in hearing about these guys standing in court railing about the Constitution. [01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:16.560] And then if I remember right, your friend lost the case, didn't he? [01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:19.560] Yes, he did, in big time. [01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:27.560] Had he not yelled so loud about jurisdiction, I mean about Constitution, [01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:34.560] and taken the statutory laws that were there and kicked the crap out of them with that, [01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:37.560] you would not have gotten more traction. [01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:39.560] You can't win the game if you don't know the rules. [01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:43.560] So if you're standing on second base, you better put your football rules down [01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:46.560] and learn the rules of baseball real quick. [01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:51.560] Precisely. [01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:54.560] So does that answer your question, Deborah? [01:14:54.560 --> 01:15:00.560] I mean basically we've got two sets of rules, one set that makes perfect logical sense to us, [01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:05.560] but those are not the rules we're using in court. [01:15:05.560 --> 01:15:12.560] Well, yes, because you've got a certain set of rules if you've agreed to it. [01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:16.560] Well, we haven't necessarily agreed to it, that's just the way things are, [01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:20.560] and we are so outnumbered. [01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:28.560] If you find yourself in the jungle, you may not like the fact that there are tigers in the jungle, [01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:33.560] but you better figure out a way to get through the jungle without being eaten. [01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:39.560] So we've got to get people to wake up, understand these different philosophies, [01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:43.560] and once enough people understand the Constitution, [01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:49.560] understand the difference between a republic and a democracy, [01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:52.560] most people think the United States is a democracy. [01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:58.560] That's certainly the way that it's being operated, but the founding fathers loathed the democracy. [01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:01.560] They thought it was a tyranny of the majority. [01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:10.560] Basically it's mob rule where 51% can take away the property and rights of the 49%, [01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:15.560] and that's what most of these organizations are trying to do. [01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:20.560] We could just get 51% of the people to vote away the Second Amendment, [01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:23.560] then Michael won't be able to carry his gun. [01:16:23.560 --> 01:16:28.560] That's a really bad train of thought. [01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:29.560] Absolutely. [01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:32.560] We're going to break, Michael. [01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:42.560] When we come back, I just had a quick comment concerning the role of government and the injured party status, [01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:47.560] because I just don't see how the state could be an injured party. [01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:53.560] I don't see how there could be a crime if there's not an individual that has been harmed. [01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:58.560] So I just want to make a brief comment on the other side. We'll be right back. [01:16:58.560 --> 01:17:00.560] We'll be right back. [01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:53.560] When ordering from survivalgearsource.com, remember to use promo code ruleoflawradio.com. [01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:58.560] Again, that special promo code is ruleoflawradio.com. [01:18:23.560 --> 01:18:35.560] Okay, we are back. [01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:39.560] The rule of law, Michael Badnerich, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens. [01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:46.560] We're going to go to your calls, and I just want to finish up briefly on this injured party thing, [01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:56.560] going back to the whole individual rights and how rights are derived. [01:18:56.560 --> 01:19:05.560] It's impossible for the state, for the government to be an injured party, period, because it's a fantasy. [01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:10.560] It's not an individual. [01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:13.560] The state cannot be injured. [01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:26.560] So it's total BS for the state to say that a crime has been committed if there has not been a specific individual [01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:30.560] that steps forward and says that he or she has been harmed. [01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:36.560] That's all there is to it, because it all goes back to collectivism versus individualism. [01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:43.560] The state represents, quote, unquote, represents the people. [01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:47.560] The people, quote, unquote, cannot be harmed because the people, quote, unquote, do not have rights. [01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:49.560] Groups cannot have rights. [01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:51.560] Am I on the right track, Michael? [01:19:51.560 --> 01:19:53.560] Yes, absolutely. [01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:54.560] You're saying it well. [01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:55.560] Okay, all right. [01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:57.560] I've got to say it. [01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:02.560] All right, we're going to go now to Guy in Arkansas. [01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:04.560] Guy, thanks for calling in. [01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:06.560] What is your question and comment for Michael Bannerich? [01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:10.560] Yeah, hello all you great people there. [01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:21.560] Okay, Michael, have you ever heard of a gentleman from the 1850s who did a bunch of essays called Linsander Spooner? [01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:24.560] Oh, Linsander Spooner, one of my favorites. [01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:30.560] I like Linsander Spooner because he makes me look like a moderate. [01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:38.560] Well, okay, for the listeners who are not familiar with him, back in the 1850s he wrote a bunch of essays basically saying [01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:44.560] that it's the Constitution of no authority, meaning that since we are not signatories to the Constitution, [01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:48.560] therefore we are not party to the Constitution nor is the Constitution party to us. [01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:58.560] Therefore, in a sense, we are totally free people unabound by any laws or statutes or any kind of restrictions or rights, [01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:03.560] let's just say, that the Constitution affords any of us. [01:21:03.560 --> 01:21:09.560] Like you say, we are under the fraud because we are tricked into these adhesive contracts [01:21:09.560 --> 01:21:16.560] and all these other kind of contracts through duress, threats, et cetera. [01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:27.560] So I think that we might want to start a revolution of a Linsander Spooner's found fundamentals and start fresh from there. [01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:28.560] What do you think? [01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:32.560] And I'll get off the phone and listen to your comments off air and give time to other callers. [01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:34.560] Thank you. [01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:43.560] Well, I keep saying this is an ideological war where it's a challenge of ideas. [01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:49.560] And one idea leads to life, the other idea leads to death. [01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:55.560] And Linsander Spooner was a great proponent of individual rights. [01:21:55.560 --> 01:22:05.560] So yes, the more people who are familiar with Linsander Spooner, the better off we will be overall. [01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:11.560] You know, we just need to focus on the simplest things and, again, private property. [01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:14.560] Everybody understands private property. [01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:22.560] And once we start to understand those basics, all the other stuff kind of falls into place. [01:22:22.560 --> 01:22:33.560] But I came to learn about Linsander Spooner fairly late in my political career, only about five, 10 years ago. [01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:36.560] And he is wonderful. [01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:45.560] I do recommend that anybody who has the time and the inclination to go out and download some of his writings. [01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:52.560] Could I make a comment here, Michael, about what the caller said? Sure. [01:22:52.560 --> 01:22:57.560] On the one hand, I agree that the Constitution does not apply to us. [01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:05.560] And some people may say, oh, what is she saying concerning the Bill of Rights? [01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:13.560] But actually in my view, the Bill of Rights is not a Bill of Rights, but rather a Bill of Restrictions [01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:19.560] because it does not grant us, that piece of paper does not grant us any rights, [01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:24.560] but rather the entire Constitution, including the so-called Bill of Rights, [01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:31.560] is actually a document of restrictions upon the government that we have created. [01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:34.560] And so, yes, he's right, it does not apply to us. [01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:39.560] It applies to the government. It is a Bill of Restrictions. [01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:45.560] It lays out very specific guidelines authorizing the government to do certain things [01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:51.560] and requiring the government to do certain things and setting up specific positions of authorization [01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:57.560] and requirement on those positions and entities. [01:23:57.560 --> 01:24:07.560] It also forbids them to do what they're not specifically authorized to do. [01:24:07.560 --> 01:24:15.560] Well, I don't know if it does or not. I think that it's just the way it is. [01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:20.560] It does forbid them from doing anything not explicitly listed. [01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:21.560] That's to the Pents Amendment. [01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:25.560] And these are all topics that I cover in my Constitution class. [01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:30.560] And again, if you are in the Austin area, I recommend that you go to my Web site, [01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:38.560] constitutionpreservation.org, and register for my class on September 5th. [01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:40.560] We'll get into all of these issues and more. [01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:46.560] And you will walk away with a very clear understanding of your relationship, [01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:52.560] the proper relationship between you and the state and federal government. [01:24:52.560 --> 01:24:57.560] Yes, and I just have one other comment too about the law and people and this other caller, [01:24:57.560 --> 01:25:02.560] this previous caller saying, well, it doesn't apply to us or we can just do whatever we want. [01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:07.560] Well, no, that's not exactly true because the common law still applies. [01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:14.560] I mean, if you harm someone else, all right, steal their property, take their property, [01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:23.560] injure them or injure their property, what have you, there is going to be some consequences, [01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:24.560] one way or the other. [01:25:24.560 --> 01:25:25.560] Absolutely. [01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:29.560] And that is the common law, okay. [01:25:29.560 --> 01:25:36.560] And so just because the Constitution is a piece of paper that restricts the government [01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:42.560] and, oh, it doesn't apply to us, that doesn't mean that we can just run around doing whatever we want, [01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:50.560] okay, and having no regard for our fellow humankind, brothers and sisters. [01:25:50.560 --> 01:25:55.560] Again, if we had more, if we took our responsibilities more seriously, [01:25:55.560 --> 01:26:01.560] then we would have more of our rights that we hope to protect. [01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:03.560] So it's all about responsibility. [01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:08.560] And you're absolutely right, you're not allowed to do anything you want. [01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:13.560] You're not allowed to injure somebody else or take their property. [01:26:13.560 --> 01:26:18.560] Other than that, you're pretty much free and open to pursue happiness any way you want. [01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:21.560] Make sure you're not hurting somebody else or violating their rights. [01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:29.560] Yes, and the government is, the role of government is not to provide services, okay. [01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:32.560] We don't have a right to services, people. [01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:35.560] We don't have a right to health care, okay. [01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:41.560] But the proper role of government is not to provide services and take care of us, okay. [01:26:41.560 --> 01:26:44.560] There shouldn't even be a government in my book, all right. [01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:51.560] The only reason there is a government is out of necessity because there is a very small percentage of people [01:26:51.560 --> 01:26:54.560] who violate the non-aggression troops, all right. [01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:59.560] The only reason government should be here at all is to protect the life, [01:26:59.560 --> 01:27:06.560] liberty, and property of the individual, and that is in the story, period. [01:27:06.560 --> 01:27:15.560] And if we people could evolve and grow in our spirit and come to know the Lord [01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:18.560] so that we would not violate the non-aggression troops, [01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:27.560] we would not need this self-created, self-imposed shackles of government, okay. [01:27:27.560 --> 01:27:29.560] Michael, comments. [01:27:29.560 --> 01:27:30.560] How do you really feel, Deborah? [01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:36.560] I mean, can I open up and let us into your innermost feelings? [01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:38.560] You got to stop being so shy. [01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:40.560] Deborah's always holding back. [01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:43.560] She never gets right to it. [01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:46.560] And that's why we love her. [01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:47.560] Anyway. [01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:51.560] Yeah, there's never a doubt on where Deborah stands on the issue. [01:27:51.560 --> 01:27:54.560] She's our precious little Oreo cookie. [01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:55.560] Oreo cookie. [01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:57.560] Sweet as she can be. [01:27:57.560 --> 01:28:00.560] Oh, boy, I'm telling you what. [01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:02.560] Okay. [01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:05.560] So is that true? [01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:08.560] I mean, what the heck? [01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:13.560] Yes, it is true, but it doesn't make any difference if it's true, [01:28:13.560 --> 01:28:15.560] if people don't understand it. [01:28:15.560 --> 01:28:16.560] So we need education. [01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:21.560] We need to light the fires of liberty one-hearted time. [01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:25.560] Every person living in the United States and literally around the world needs to [01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:28.560] understand individual rights and private property. [01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:32.560] When they do, all these political problems will go away. [01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:38.560] But we have a huge education problem because so many people have been buffaloed, [01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:44.560] and they believe the fraud that has been perpetrated on us by these criminals [01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:46.560] in government. [01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:52.560] And, man, I don't want to be the people in Congress, the people in power when [01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:59.560] the, you know, the American public realizes just how bad things have gotten [01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:04.560] because I don't think it's going to be real pretty. [01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:07.560] Well, it already ain't pretty. [01:29:07.560 --> 01:29:12.560] People are screaming mad at these town hall meetings, [01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:19.560] and Obama is trying to censor the media and tell them not to cover it, [01:29:19.560 --> 01:29:22.560] and all this disinfo is going out. [01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:24.560] Oh, it's staged. [01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:28.560] It's all, you know, just a big dog and pony show. [01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:29.560] No, it ain't. [01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:34.560] Even people that don't know nothing about 9-11 truth, okay, or anything else, [01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:36.560] they're mad, okay? [01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:41.560] They're raving mad, and we should be mad. [01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:44.560] See, get rid of them all. [01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:46.560] Out of office, okay? [01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:49.560] We are the ones that need to be up in there. [01:29:49.560 --> 01:29:51.560] Okay, we're going to take calls on the other side. [01:29:51.560 --> 01:29:53.560] We'll be right back. 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[01:32:11.560 --> 01:32:17.560] The rule of law. [01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:20.560] Randy Michael Debra. [01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:25.560] We are here telling it like it is, okay? [01:32:25.560 --> 01:32:28.560] That's all there is to it. [01:32:28.560 --> 01:32:29.560] Thank you for taking your calls. [01:32:29.560 --> 01:32:31.560] We've got Jerry from Oregon. [01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:36.560] Jerry, what is your question and comment for our guest, Michael Banerich? [01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:39.560] Michael, I have a question for you. [01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:45.560] How do you assert that common law jurisdiction [01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:50.560] and remain in it no matter what other jurisdictions [01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:53.560] the government might like to put you in, [01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:57.560] but how do you maintain that stand in that common law jurisdiction? [01:32:57.560 --> 01:32:59.560] Do you have that correct? [01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:02.560] Yes, it's difficult to do. [01:33:02.560 --> 01:33:07.560] I mean, they're going to try to lure you into the statutory jurisdiction. [01:33:07.560 --> 01:33:11.560] And there's no clear cut way. [01:33:11.560 --> 01:33:13.560] I mean, like I said, the government is evil [01:33:13.560 --> 01:33:16.560] and they're willing to use all form of deception. [01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:24.560] But one of the things that we've been fairly successful with is I cannot proceed [01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:28.560] without the assistance of counsel for my defense. [01:33:28.560 --> 01:33:30.560] If you're familiar with the Sixth Amendment, [01:33:30.560 --> 01:33:36.560] the Sixth Amendment guarantees your right to the assistance of counsel for your defense. [01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:42.560] And by using that phraseology, you're basically asking for a, [01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:46.560] you're demanding your common law right venue. [01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:51.560] And since there are no common law venues available, [01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:53.560] at least none that I'm currently aware of, [01:33:53.560 --> 01:33:57.560] and in other words, got a couple of states that are trying to bring them back, [01:33:57.560 --> 01:34:02.560] basically it puts the government in a Catch-22 position [01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:08.560] where they can't offer you the Catch-22 or they can't offer you the common law venue [01:34:08.560 --> 01:34:11.560] and you're not willing to be anywhere else. [01:34:11.560 --> 01:34:16.560] And so we've had cases here in Austin where the judge finally just got frustrated [01:34:16.560 --> 01:34:20.560] and dropped the case, dismissed the case. [01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:22.560] Now, that's not a guarantee. [01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:25.560] I certainly am not giving any legal advice. [01:34:25.560 --> 01:34:30.560] This is something that I have tried with, you know, moderate success. [01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:34.560] But, you know, I just launch, I do what I do best. [01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:36.560] I teach the Constitution. [01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:39.560] And when I am approached by police officers, [01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:44.560] I ask if they have taken a note to protect, defend the Constitution. [01:34:44.560 --> 01:34:46.560] The answer is yes. [01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:49.560] Then I ask them how many articles are in the Constitution, and they don't know. [01:34:49.560 --> 01:34:53.560] And I say, well, how can you defend the Constitution if you don't know what's in it? [01:34:53.560 --> 01:34:58.560] And then then I go on to, you know, a bunch of other different ideas, [01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:02.560] and I have them so discombobulated and confused, [01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:08.560] they're actually afraid to try to promote any of their statutory law. [01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:11.560] But that's not a guarantee. [01:35:11.560 --> 01:35:17.560] Michael, I was listening to your answer, and frankly I was intrigued. [01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:27.560] You're saying that you cannot proceed without your right to assistance of counsel. [01:35:27.560 --> 01:35:28.560] Right. [01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:34.560] And that's a whole other ballgame than proceeding with an attorney to represent you. [01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:35.560] Absolutely. [01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:36.560] Wait a minute. [01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:37.560] Wait a minute. [01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:41.560] Cannot or have the option to choose not to? [01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:43.560] You know, I will not proceed. [01:35:43.560 --> 01:35:44.560] I cannot proceed. [01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:49.560] You know, when the judge asks you, you know, how do you plea? [01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:53.560] If you offer a plea, you acquiesce to the jurisdiction. [01:35:53.560 --> 01:35:55.560] You're in statutory jurisdiction. [01:35:55.560 --> 01:35:58.560] And as Randy says, if you're in statutory jurisdiction, [01:35:58.560 --> 01:36:01.560] you probably ought to learn how to play that game. [01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:05.560] And Randy does that fairly successfully. [01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:11.560] If it is possible to not be in statutory jurisdiction in the first place, [01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:12.560] that would be my preference. [01:36:12.560 --> 01:36:15.560] And that's what I attempt to do. [01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:18.560] But there's no silver bullet. [01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:22.560] There's no guaranteed way to do that. [01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:27.560] So they may still act aggressively against you, [01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:37.560] but I guess you'll just be left with the peace of mind of knowing that you're in the right no matter what they do to you. [01:36:37.560 --> 01:36:38.560] Absolutely. [01:36:38.560 --> 01:36:43.560] And, you know, there's a bumper sticker company, libertystickers.com, [01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:49.560] and they have several of my quotes on vinyl that you can put them on your car, [01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:54.560] one of which is, if the First Amendment doesn't work, the Second Amendment will. [01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:59.560] And, you know, I'm all happy to talk about it and explain the philosophy [01:36:59.560 --> 01:37:03.560] and, you know, teach people about the Constitution and my rights. [01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:11.560] But ultimately, you know, if somebody's going to try to kill me, I will do my best to stop them ballistically. [01:37:11.560 --> 01:37:20.560] Yeah, and here's my other favorite Michael Badnerich quote regarding forced vaccinations, just a side issue. [01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:31.560] You come with the syringe, the needle, and I'll come with my 45, and we'll see who makes a bigger hole, okay? [01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:33.560] I have one last question. [01:37:33.560 --> 01:37:38.560] Is the affidavit of sovereignty an operation of common law? [01:37:38.560 --> 01:37:43.560] Is it a declaration within the jurisdiction of common law? [01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:46.560] Is that the idea behind that? [01:37:46.560 --> 01:37:49.560] It is simply a statement. [01:37:49.560 --> 01:37:55.560] You know, I'm making a public statement, and, you know, people can interpret it. [01:37:55.560 --> 01:38:03.560] So what I did was I wrote up – at some point I was frustrated because, you know, [01:38:03.560 --> 01:38:06.560] I knew what the Constitution said, and I could see what the government was doing, [01:38:06.560 --> 01:38:10.560] and I didn't know how to, you know, straddle the two. [01:38:10.560 --> 01:38:16.560] And I decided that if I really believed all this stuff, I ought to put my money where my mouth is. [01:38:16.560 --> 01:38:21.560] So I wrote the affidavit of sovereignty just from scratch. [01:38:21.560 --> 01:38:27.560] The founding fathers didn't have to get permission from King George to write the Declaration of Independence. [01:38:27.560 --> 01:38:29.560] You know, I don't need anybody's permission. [01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:31.560] I just wrote what I felt. [01:38:31.560 --> 01:38:40.560] And an affidavit is a statement of truth in the legal system until it is rebutted. [01:38:40.560 --> 01:38:46.560] So legally, if I claim the moon is made out of green cheese, if nobody argues with me, [01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:53.560] then for all legal intents and purposes, the moon is made out of green cheese, even though most of us know that's not true. [01:38:53.560 --> 01:38:57.560] So my statement is that I'm not a United States citizen. [01:38:57.560 --> 01:38:59.560] I don't get permission from the government. [01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:05.560] I have, you know, inherent rights, et cetera, et cetera. [01:39:05.560 --> 01:39:09.560] So my affidavit went on for four pages, and I took it to the Travis County courthouse, [01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:13.560] and it took them a while because they'd never seen one of those before. [01:39:13.560 --> 01:39:20.560] But eventually, it was documented under real property. [01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:27.560] Now, I don't understand that, but I'm guessing it's because my body is real property, and they had no place else to put it. [01:39:27.560 --> 01:39:33.560] So from that point, that was happened, what, back in 1998, I believe. [01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:41.560] Ever since that point, any time I got to go to court, that's the first document that I submit. [01:39:41.560 --> 01:39:46.560] You know, it's an affidavit, and I've yet to have the government rebut it. [01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:48.560] They just tend to ignore it. [01:39:48.560 --> 01:39:50.560] That's funny you mention that. [01:39:50.560 --> 01:39:56.560] I found a quote from James Madison, government is instituted to protect property of every sort, [01:39:56.560 --> 01:40:00.560] and conscience is the most sacred of all property. [01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:04.560] So maybe that's why they put it there. [01:40:04.560 --> 01:40:07.560] That sounds good. [01:40:07.560 --> 01:40:10.560] Could you send me that Madison quote? [01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:12.560] That sounds good. [01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:14.560] Yeah, yeah, I just was going through it. [01:40:14.560 --> 01:40:19.560] I wrote my own affidavit because I didn't think, I just figured, you know, [01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:21.560] I don't need anybody's permission to do this. [01:40:21.560 --> 01:40:24.560] It's my own. [01:40:24.560 --> 01:40:25.560] Absolutely. [01:40:25.560 --> 01:40:34.560] Whether people respect it or not, I have that peace of mind that that's where I stand. [01:40:34.560 --> 01:40:35.560] Excellent. [01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:37.560] I'll send that to you. [01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:38.560] Excellent. [01:40:38.560 --> 01:40:43.560] And I'd love to read your statement of your affidavit of sovereignty as well, [01:40:43.560 --> 01:40:44.560] and I'll send you mine. [01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:47.560] We can kind of compare notes. [01:40:47.560 --> 01:40:48.560] Great. [01:40:48.560 --> 01:40:49.560] Could you give me that e-mail address? [01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:54.560] I'll go to the library tomorrow and send it to you, and I'll listen to the rest of the program. [01:40:54.560 --> 01:41:05.560] Scholar, S-C-H-O-L-A-R, scholar at constitutionpreservation.org. [01:41:05.560 --> 01:41:07.560] Thank you. [01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:08.560] My pleasure. [01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:12.560] All right, thanks, Jerry. [01:41:12.560 --> 01:41:14.560] All right, we've got Scott from Connecticut. [01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:19.560] But before we take Scott, I just wanted to announce we've got one more segment. [01:41:19.560 --> 01:41:22.560] We're coming up on a break. [01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:25.560] We've got one last segment in the show with Michael Badnerich, [01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:34.560] and I just wanted to put out a call to all collectivists out there, all collectivists, all liberals. [01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:37.560] Call in, argue your point. [01:41:37.560 --> 01:41:38.560] We want to hear it. [01:41:38.560 --> 01:41:40.560] Let's hear what you've got to say. [01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:41.560] Bankers, call in. [01:41:41.560 --> 01:41:44.560] Bankers, call in, collectivists. [01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:45.560] We want to hear it. [01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:50.560] Why you think that, you know, democracy is so great. [01:41:50.560 --> 01:41:55.560] Why you think it's so great to take away our property. [01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:56.560] You know, I have a very good friend. [01:41:56.560 --> 01:41:58.560] His name is Son. [01:41:58.560 --> 01:42:01.560] He used to do a TV show with him on the Jeff Davis show. [01:42:01.560 --> 01:42:09.560] And I'm going to use his example to people who want to argue socialism and collectivism. [01:42:09.560 --> 01:42:13.560] Oh, you think it's so great to share all your property. [01:42:13.560 --> 01:42:16.560] The government owns the property, redistribution of wealth. [01:42:16.560 --> 01:42:17.560] Well, how about this? [01:42:17.560 --> 01:42:19.560] Give me your car keys then. [01:42:19.560 --> 01:42:25.560] Hand them over, pal, because I need them more than you, because I say so. [01:42:25.560 --> 01:42:28.560] How about those cookies? [01:42:28.560 --> 01:42:30.560] What do you think about that, Michael? [01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:31.560] That's a great example. [01:42:31.560 --> 01:42:33.560] I've used the same example myself. [01:42:33.560 --> 01:42:36.560] There was a rally in front of the Austin Capitol. [01:42:36.560 --> 01:42:40.560] There was a woman at a Socialist Party of America table, [01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:45.560] and she was arguing that private property didn't exist. [01:42:45.560 --> 01:42:47.560] I said, well, then give me my sweater. [01:42:47.560 --> 01:42:48.560] She goes, what? [01:42:48.560 --> 01:42:50.560] I said, well, you've been wearing that sort of effect some time. [01:42:50.560 --> 01:42:51.560] Now it's my turn. [01:42:51.560 --> 01:42:53.560] She goes, this is my sweater. [01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:54.560] I said, no, it's not. [01:42:54.560 --> 01:42:56.560] You just argued that there was no private property. [01:42:56.560 --> 01:42:57.560] See. [01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:02.560] So they can't really follow through on their own philosophy. [01:43:02.560 --> 01:43:08.560] It's a self-contradiction. [01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:13.560] People seldom operate from a consistent set of beliefs. [01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:19.560] There is no private property when the property is yours or under your control, [01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:23.560] but the property under my control, well, that's different. [01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:26.560] That's right. [01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:27.560] Okay. [01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:28.560] We're heading into break. [01:43:28.560 --> 01:43:29.560] We've got one more segment. [01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:31.560] We've got Scott from Connecticut, callers. [01:43:31.560 --> 01:43:37.560] One last segment, 512-646-1984. [01:43:37.560 --> 01:43:41.560] Call on in, collectivists. [01:43:41.560 --> 01:43:42.560] See what you got. [01:43:42.560 --> 01:43:45.560] We'll be right back. [01:43:45.560 --> 01:43:58.560] Music [01:43:58.560 --> 01:44:01.560] Stock markets are taking hit after hit. [01:44:01.560 --> 01:44:04.560] Corrupt bankers are choking on subprime debt. 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[01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:19.560] I just wanted a quick short rant about this proposed socialist health care system. [01:46:19.560 --> 01:46:25.560] I've been hearing from friends of mine who are leftist leaning, lesser hearts. [01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:29.560] They just don't know any better. [01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:33.560] Now, look what the free market has got us into. [01:46:33.560 --> 01:46:37.560] Look what capitalism has done. [01:46:37.560 --> 01:46:41.560] It's the most expensive health care system in the world. [01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:43.560] Almost no one can afford it. [01:46:43.560 --> 01:46:46.560] Well, you know what? That ain't true. [01:46:46.560 --> 01:46:53.560] Just ask my sister, who is a doctor, a bona fide MV, yes, indeed, [01:46:53.560 --> 01:46:58.560] and Greg Chapman, one of the other hosts on this network. [01:46:58.560 --> 01:47:01.560] Guess what, ladies and gentlemen? [01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:06.560] You want to know why the health care system, all the prices are so expensive? [01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:08.560] It's because of the government. [01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:09.560] That's why. [01:47:09.560 --> 01:47:21.560] It's because Medicare sets the prices for all health care services in the western medical field. [01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:31.560] Okay, Medicare sets the prices, all private insurance companies go along with what Medicare says, [01:47:31.560 --> 01:47:34.560] and the doctors have to charge. [01:47:34.560 --> 01:47:36.560] They can't charge more. [01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:42.560] Well, I guess they could charge less and chump themselves and not be able to survive as a doctor. [01:47:42.560 --> 01:47:47.560] I know, because my sister is one, all right? [01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:56.560] You got to go along with what Medicare charges or else you can't pay your bills, all right, as a doctor. [01:47:56.560 --> 01:47:57.560] You just don't survive. [01:47:57.560 --> 01:47:59.560] You can't pay back your student loans. [01:47:59.560 --> 01:48:08.560] So it ain't because, oh, of capitalism or because this is what the free market has got us. [01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:17.560] No, maybe if we did have a free market, maybe we would have a reasonable health care system, affordable. [01:48:17.560 --> 01:48:18.560] Not maybe. [01:48:18.560 --> 01:48:19.560] Maybe. [01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:20.560] Not maybe. [01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:22.560] We would have a reasonable health care system. [01:48:22.560 --> 01:48:24.560] We would, because the free market rules. [01:48:24.560 --> 01:48:25.560] Let's go to the caller. [01:48:25.560 --> 01:48:26.560] We only have about 10 minutes. [01:48:26.560 --> 01:48:31.560] All right, I just want to put that out there, because that is something that most people don't know. [01:48:31.560 --> 01:48:33.560] Go ahead, Scott. [01:48:33.560 --> 01:48:34.560] Hey, Mike, how are you doing? [01:48:34.560 --> 01:48:36.560] I'm well, thanks. [01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:38.560] Okay, I got a question for you. [01:48:38.560 --> 01:48:44.560] I heard a gentleman by the name of Ralph Epperson on another program the other night. [01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:45.560] Okay. [01:48:45.560 --> 01:48:51.560] He mentioned something that occurred, and I only caught 90 percent of it. [01:48:51.560 --> 01:48:58.560] Around 1933, those criminals in the government did something else to usurp the Constitution, [01:48:58.560 --> 01:49:08.560] and somehow he described it as somehow we got changed from constitutional law or common law to contract law. [01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:09.560] Yes. [01:49:09.560 --> 01:49:10.560] Well, it's not contract law. [01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:12.560] It's the Uniform Commercial Code. [01:49:12.560 --> 01:49:13.560] Okay. [01:49:13.560 --> 01:49:17.560] Let me give you the Reader's Digest version. [01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:23.560] If you've got an apple and I've got silver and we trade, we just traded property. [01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:28.560] Your apple is property, my silver is property, and we automatically fall under common law. [01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:33.560] In 1933, they took away gold and silver. [01:49:33.560 --> 01:49:41.560] They literally made it illegal, which is nonsense, and they gave us Federal Reserve notes, which are fiat money. [01:49:41.560 --> 01:49:48.560] So when you have an apple and I have, you know, paper dollar, we're not exchanging property. [01:49:48.560 --> 01:49:55.560] You're giving me your apple, but I'm giving you a debt instrument, an IOU. [01:49:55.560 --> 01:50:04.560] And so because we're not exchanging property, we no longer fall under common law, and they had to create a new body of law. [01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:13.560] The paper money is colorable money, and so they had to invent colorable law to adjudicate it. [01:50:13.560 --> 01:50:21.560] And so in 1933-ish, I don't know exact time or date, but they took equity law and admiralty law, [01:50:21.560 --> 01:50:27.560] merged them together so they were uniform, and they created commercial code. [01:50:27.560 --> 01:50:32.560] It's all about trading commercial paper like the Federal Reserve notes, and it is code. [01:50:32.560 --> 01:50:34.560] It's not law. [01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:38.560] It only applies to people who use Federal Reserve notes. [01:50:38.560 --> 01:50:40.560] Which would be most of us. [01:50:40.560 --> 01:50:45.560] Yeah, it would be just about everybody because they basically eliminated any other option. [01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:55.560] And my buddy Bernard Von Nothaus has the Liberty Dollar, and they were, you know, having people trade silver. [01:50:55.560 --> 01:50:59.560] And the FBI and the Justice Department went in, [01:50:59.560 --> 01:51:09.560] and they stole several hundreds of thousands of dollars of gold and silver from their office in Evansville. [01:51:09.560 --> 01:51:15.560] And their argument, and I'm not kidding, the government's argument is that Federal Reserve notes, [01:51:15.560 --> 01:51:23.560] which are printed out of thin air, are real money, and that silver and gold are counterfeit. [01:51:23.560 --> 01:51:29.560] It's like, okay, you want to actually say that out loud in court? [01:51:29.560 --> 01:51:30.560] I want to hear that. [01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:35.560] But that should be going to court in January, I believe. [01:51:35.560 --> 01:51:43.560] Okay, so that was my comment. My question sort of is how can we, and I'm sure we'll never answer this tonight. [01:51:43.560 --> 01:51:45.560] Everybody's going to have to work on this. [01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:51.560] But how can we stay under the safety of the Constitution and common law, okay, [01:51:51.560 --> 01:51:56.560] and fight these people with their own medicine, so to speak, [01:51:56.560 --> 01:52:02.560] use the statutory law to protect ourselves from them also, and use it against them, [01:52:02.560 --> 01:52:11.560] and use the commercial code to fight back against these people? [01:52:11.560 --> 01:52:16.560] If you're a Star Trek fan, you know that the resistance is futile. [01:52:16.560 --> 01:52:18.560] You will be assimilated. [01:52:18.560 --> 01:52:20.560] Well, I'm not going to be part of the board. [01:52:20.560 --> 01:52:23.560] I'm not going to be part of the uniform commercial code. [01:52:23.560 --> 01:52:27.560] Resistance is not futile. Resistance is mandatory. [01:52:27.560 --> 01:52:31.560] You need to understand the ideas, and you need to be willing to fight for your rights. [01:52:31.560 --> 01:52:36.560] Thomas Jefferson said the only rights you have are the ones you're willing to fight for. [01:52:36.560 --> 01:52:43.560] And when I was growing up, my mom told my brothers and I, only floss the teeth you want to keep. [01:52:43.560 --> 01:52:51.560] So if you want your rights, you've got to understand them, you've got to stand up, and you've got to defend them. [01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:57.560] And when we start getting more and more people across the country doing that, [01:52:57.560 --> 01:53:03.560] genuinely understanding the difference between rights and privileges, then these problems will go away. [01:53:03.560 --> 01:53:10.560] And I'd like to say that my Chapter 2 of my book, Rights vs. Privileges, is available for free. [01:53:10.560 --> 01:53:17.560] You can go to my website, constitutionpreservation.org, click on the menu item for book, [01:53:17.560 --> 01:53:23.560] and then right below the photo of the book, you can download a PDF copy of Chapter 2. [01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:29.560] And you can read Chapter 2 for free. If that doesn't light your socks up, then you don't want my book. [01:53:29.560 --> 01:53:35.560] If it suddenly gives you clarity, then feel free to buy my book, attend my class, [01:53:35.560 --> 01:53:40.560] and help me light the fires of liberty one heart at a time. [01:53:40.560 --> 01:53:43.560] Okay. Well, just one Reader's Digest version back. [01:53:43.560 --> 01:53:48.560] If I'm walking down the street and get caught carrying my handgun without the proper permit, [01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:51.560] how do I keep myself out of prison? [01:53:51.560 --> 01:53:55.560] Pull the trigger. [01:53:55.560 --> 01:53:57.560] I wish it was that simple. [01:53:57.560 --> 01:54:01.560] Oh, it is that simple. It's just people don't have the courage to do that. [01:54:01.560 --> 01:54:08.560] And give me a call, turn the line tomorrow, and I'll tell you some really good anecdotes. [01:54:08.560 --> 01:54:12.560] Okay. I'll let somebody else jump on the line here. [01:54:12.560 --> 01:54:14.560] All right. Thanks for your call. [01:54:14.560 --> 01:54:19.560] Okay. Yep. [01:54:19.560 --> 01:54:25.560] Thank you, Scott. Yep. [01:54:25.560 --> 01:54:35.560] I would like to add that if everyone walked down the street bearing their arms, sidearms, [01:54:35.560 --> 01:54:44.560] long arms, pistols, whatever it may be, then we wouldn't have this problem. [01:54:44.560 --> 01:54:46.560] That's right. [01:54:46.560 --> 01:54:51.560] I can testify to how well that works. [01:54:51.560 --> 01:54:59.560] Once upon a time in Korat, Thailand, I was thrown through the top half of a window out of a beer joint. [01:54:59.560 --> 01:55:02.560] Big fight broke out in the beer joint. [01:55:02.560 --> 01:55:08.560] And I was minding my own business, but they threw me through the top half of the window. [01:55:08.560 --> 01:55:12.560] Everyone in the place was armed to the teeth. [01:55:12.560 --> 01:55:19.560] No one even considered pulling a weapon, not unless you had a death wish. [01:55:19.560 --> 01:55:28.560] So when everybody's armed, it has a certain calming effect. [01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:32.560] Well, it was kind of clear there that this was Army and Air Force. [01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:36.560] But if anybody pulled a weapon, it was no longer Army and Air Force. [01:55:36.560 --> 01:55:42.560] It was everybody else against the one that pulled the weapon. [01:55:42.560 --> 01:55:48.560] So it does have a – when they passed the right to carry law, I was very pleased with it. [01:55:48.560 --> 01:55:50.560] My son was arguing against it. [01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:54.560] And he was saying how it wouldn't do any good because if somebody's going to rob you, [01:55:54.560 --> 01:55:57.560] they wouldn't give you a chance to get to your weapon. [01:55:57.560 --> 01:56:00.560] And I told him, well, that's not the one you got to worry about. [01:56:00.560 --> 01:56:05.560] It's the guy across the street or down the block in Dallas. [01:56:05.560 --> 01:56:14.560] In Dallas, Texas, the very day that the right to carry law went into effect, [01:56:14.560 --> 01:56:21.560] a woman on North Central Expressway, heavy traffic, a guy run up, [01:56:21.560 --> 01:56:26.560] jerked her door open, grabbed her by the hair of the head and threw her out of the car. [01:56:26.560 --> 01:56:31.560] The guy behind her stepped out and dropped him in his tracks. [01:56:31.560 --> 01:56:37.560] It turned out he happened to be an FBI agent, so he already had his permit. [01:56:37.560 --> 01:56:41.560] But you don't have to worry about the one that you're stealing the car from. [01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:47.560] You've got to worry about the one behind you or across the street. [01:56:47.560 --> 01:56:53.560] So I don't advocate the use of guns, but if everybody had one, we wouldn't have to use them. [01:56:53.560 --> 01:56:57.560] Well, I don't advocate the use of guns either unless you're defending yourself from the government [01:56:57.560 --> 01:56:59.560] or somebody else. [01:56:59.560 --> 01:57:01.560] We have a right to life. [01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:06.560] We have a right to defend our life, and we have a right to use firearms to defend ourselves [01:57:06.560 --> 01:57:11.560] because that's the most efficient and useful way to do so. [01:57:11.560 --> 01:57:19.560] And any law, any gun law that infringes on your right to keep the bear arms is unconstitutional. [01:57:19.560 --> 01:57:21.560] It's null and void. [01:57:21.560 --> 01:57:24.560] Just refer to Barber v. Madison. [01:57:24.560 --> 01:57:29.560] And before we get off the air, I just want to remind everybody that I am going to be teaching my [01:57:29.560 --> 01:57:36.560] Constitution class in Austin, Austin, Texas, September 5th, which is Labor Day weekend. [01:57:36.560 --> 01:57:45.560] It will be at the Wynton Garden Hotel on I-35, about half a mile north of Ben White at Woodward. [01:57:45.560 --> 01:57:55.560] And if you want to attend, you need to register for the class by going to constitutionpreservation.org, [01:57:55.560 --> 01:57:58.560] constitutionpreservation.org, right there on the home page. [01:57:58.560 --> 01:57:59.560] You can't miss it. [01:57:59.560 --> 01:58:02.560] Press the PayPal button for dollars per person. [01:58:02.560 --> 01:58:07.560] It will be the most enlightening class you've ever taken. [01:58:07.560 --> 01:58:09.560] I agree wholeheartedly. [01:58:09.560 --> 01:58:12.560] Everyone go to Michael's class. [01:58:12.560 --> 01:58:18.560] I just want to add that as far as the right to bear arms, it's just basically just an enumeration [01:58:18.560 --> 01:58:19.560] of our right to survival. [01:58:19.560 --> 01:58:28.560] We have the right to live by whatever means necessary. [01:58:28.560 --> 01:58:29.560] Right, Randy? [01:58:29.560 --> 01:58:30.560] Yes. [01:58:30.560 --> 01:58:32.560] And thank you, Michael, for a great show. [01:58:32.560 --> 01:58:33.560] Thank you, Michael. [01:58:33.560 --> 01:58:34.560] Thank you. [01:58:34.560 --> 01:58:35.560] I've enjoyed it. [01:58:35.560 --> 01:58:36.560] You two are my favorite people. [01:58:36.560 --> 01:58:40.560] I appreciate all the work that you do here in Rule of Law Radio. [01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:44.560] And thank you for letting me spend some time with you. [01:58:44.560 --> 01:58:46.560] And stay tuned for Endless Fraud Detection. 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