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[05:18.560 --> 05:25.760] Alright, so if you could please, if you could just start off going over how you arrived [05:25.760 --> 05:32.320] at this process, what is the background and how is this applied today in the different [05:32.320 --> 05:34.400] arenas that you are applying it to? [05:34.400 --> 05:40.680] Yes, yes, well you know I have been looking over the common law statutory, statutory is [05:40.680 --> 05:46.640] obviously it is the law set up for argument and with all that is codified there is a lot [05:46.640 --> 05:52.960] to try to remember but I am sure there is you know those versus statutory they can grasp [05:52.960 --> 06:00.360] hold of a couple of statutes and run with it but in the common law, well it is really [06:00.360 --> 06:05.840] I mean we are as natural men and women we file motions in the statutory but in the common [06:05.840 --> 06:12.840] law we file declarations, big difference but there is a catalyst between the two and I [06:12.840 --> 06:14.960] could not find the bridge. [06:14.960 --> 06:22.200] What happened, what started to get me thinking on it or what was a big aha if you will was [06:22.200 --> 06:30.760] when a local journalist here close to me, his wife, a Mexican illegal broke into their [06:30.760 --> 06:35.960] office and she held him at gunpoint, called the sheriff until he got there or deputy rather [06:35.960 --> 06:41.400] until he got there and this illegal had no paperwork that was relative to the United [06:41.400 --> 06:47.840] States in any way, shape or form, driver's license, birth certificate, doors, wound up [06:47.840 --> 06:55.760] the deputy just let him go, the illegal walks out into the street turning back around laughing [06:55.760 --> 07:05.280] you know they thought it was funny and the journalist's wife is okay what just happened [07:05.280 --> 07:12.040] and so the journalist is making a big issue over it, why did the deputy let him go and [07:12.040 --> 07:18.640] he wanted answers, FOIA, the works, trying to get information on what the deal was with [07:18.640 --> 07:24.520] that of course the sheriff was mum but I started trying to figure out why was that, what was [07:24.520 --> 07:33.480] up with that and then I started noticing a parallel in some of these affidavits, affidavits [07:33.480 --> 07:40.720] of truth that was coming out with or rather came out from individuals such as I say individuals [07:40.720 --> 07:50.160] or groups such as the Constitutional Party in Pennsylvania and Frederick Mann and I [07:50.160 --> 07:56.400] remember one more I read and we were talking about pages and pages and pages of stuff but [07:56.400 --> 08:00.800] there was one common denominator and everything's mathematical as far as I'm concerned, the [08:00.800 --> 08:04.800] one common denominator was the redicase of the power of attorney and I just kept going [08:04.800 --> 08:09.920] over that and finally you know I just thought well you know let's try this out, I did try [08:09.920 --> 08:17.520] it and miraculous things worked and started out with the IRS, didn't even fall into the [08:17.520 --> 08:22.520] county nothing just straight up mail, here you go revoking all power of attorney for [08:22.520 --> 08:28.960] all state contracts to include driver's license, word driver's licenses rather or voluntary [08:28.960 --> 08:35.120] and certificates and titles or bicolor of law and title and boy that just shut down [08:35.120 --> 08:41.280] the IRS boom look at he split so I thought hey you know there must be something to this [08:41.280 --> 08:48.760] where a lot of declarations from individuals nowadays, men and women nowadays, you know [08:48.760 --> 08:52.680] free man on the land that sounds great and all but I've got to tell you that it goes [08:52.680 --> 09:01.800] back 20, 40, 60 years where when it had intensity, it had gravity, it had weight, people knew [09:01.800 --> 09:06.080] what that meant back then, now things have changed, you start talking about free man [09:06.080 --> 09:11.720] on the land and a lot of these folks are like oh god one of them, the deal with the revocation [09:11.720 --> 09:16.040] of power of attorney then was to bring it forward and get to the point, put it in words [09:16.040 --> 09:19.680] that these folks are going to know exactly what you're talking about and cut straight [09:19.680 --> 09:26.240] to the chase, this is where I'm coming from and by the way I'm on to you, you know and [09:26.240 --> 09:32.400] that was with the rather coupling it with if you will, the revocation of power of attorney [09:32.400 --> 09:38.080] with the notice of fraud and then the notice to cease and desist and that has been like [09:38.080 --> 09:45.240] a knife in so many different situations but all situations being the same where it all [09:45.240 --> 09:53.120] goes back to everything revolving around debt in one form or another, you know all these [09:53.120 --> 10:01.280] things tying together at some point and it all revolves around we as natural men and women [10:01.280 --> 10:11.880] being creditors to this bankruptcy and not being able to have our status recognized at [10:11.880 --> 10:20.480] least not conventionally, you know and that's pretty much where all that started from. [10:20.480 --> 10:32.000] All right, that's very true about us being creditors in this bankruptcy, yes so can you [10:32.000 --> 10:36.120] give us, I'm sorry go ahead Randy you're trying to say something? [10:36.120 --> 10:44.400] I'm trying to understand how the revocation of power of attorney becomes necessary, who [10:44.400 --> 10:48.040] gets power of attorney, how and when? [10:48.040 --> 10:52.200] Okay, who specifically as far as which agency or? [10:52.200 --> 10:53.200] Yes, yes. [10:53.200 --> 10:56.200] When does it, okay when does it begin? [10:56.200 --> 10:57.200] Yes. [10:57.200 --> 11:01.200] Do I mean that's, you know that's pretty astute because now we're talking about which comes [11:01.200 --> 11:09.320] first, the chicken or the egg, I mean from what I can see our parents passed state power [11:09.320 --> 11:15.600] of attorney over us and to us as products of either their marriage or products from [11:15.600 --> 11:20.760] their own certificates whereas and here's something I found, you know whenever you make [11:20.760 --> 11:29.560] an affidavit or declaration in commerce and now this maybe does sound a bit antiquated [11:29.560 --> 11:36.960] but you know an affidavit unrebutted stands as truth in commerce so I mean if I were to [11:36.960 --> 11:44.860] and I've discovered this it really does work, send a notice of declaration of power of attorney [11:44.860 --> 11:49.560] over an individual, give them proof of service and say look you have three days to rebut [11:49.560 --> 11:54.160] this, if you do not within that three days guess what I have your power of attorney. [11:54.160 --> 12:02.640] From what I see this is relatively similar and that's the birth process alone of course [12:02.640 --> 12:11.600] we solidify that more so with our volunteering to accept these licenses or driver's licenses [12:11.600 --> 12:18.560] if you will and then of course Social Security where the benefits thereof we ascribe to and [12:18.560 --> 12:27.160] that's debatable as far as how beneficial those benefits are. [12:27.160 --> 12:32.520] Okay so if somebody wanted to do something like this what would be one of the applications [12:32.520 --> 12:36.120] like where would, what would they, who would they file this with first? [12:36.120 --> 12:43.840] Okay well you know usually the way any enlightened individual gets involved in anything like [12:43.840 --> 12:50.800] this is because somebody has trespassed upon their rights in one form or another or at [12:50.800 --> 12:59.200] least you know that is the appearance and by that like a lot of and I guess we'll call [12:59.200 --> 13:02.960] it the Patriot community because I really think of myself more as a natural woman but [13:02.960 --> 13:12.760] patriotism is part of that too is that you know somebody gets a ticket like wow you know [13:12.760 --> 13:21.320] or these licenses and you have to have a registration and your car titles are bonded and your home [13:21.320 --> 13:26.560] titles are bonded but you know you get either a ticket or you get thrown in jail or the [13:26.560 --> 13:31.960] IRS comes after you or you get a bill collector you know all of a sudden you have to go proactive [13:31.960 --> 13:36.160] and understand or if not understand or at least try to defend yourself because now you're [13:36.160 --> 13:41.720] put in this position where you have to try to figure out what your outcome is going to [13:41.720 --> 13:47.480] be and what's you know what's the most beneficial route and of course now to listen to the statutory [13:47.480 --> 13:52.200] is just to do whatever they tell you to do because there's that parent child relationship [13:52.200 --> 14:01.000] you know we know everything just ask us we'll tell you or you know for your own good type [14:01.000 --> 14:12.000] of situation but as far as like driver's licenses or tickets or even the IRS let's say you get [14:12.000 --> 14:21.280] a ticket you don't want to pay it of course not you have a right to travel you can just [14:21.280 --> 14:27.320] file that RPOA straight away into the court case but here's the deal you get started on [14:27.320 --> 14:32.280] anything like this even if it's just the smallest level and even if it's just a traffic ticket [14:32.280 --> 14:38.080] follow it up the line because this is preventive for anything in the future and of course thereafter [14:38.080 --> 14:45.240] you should always reserve your rights with your signature each time after you have made [14:45.240 --> 14:50.320] these declarations because really this is a movement for your status you are separating [14:50.320 --> 14:56.840] yourself from the statutory you are separating yourself into your understanding of what your [14:56.840 --> 15:03.240] position is as far as commerce is concerned so you get your tickets and you file your [15:03.240 --> 15:06.080] replication of power of attorney into the ticket of course the judge isn't going to [15:06.080 --> 15:11.160] like it you know and then you send it to all the gun agencies and by that that would be [15:11.160 --> 15:20.520] okay for this application it would be the sheriff depending on your location the city [15:20.520 --> 15:27.480] police or your constable and such you know you take care of it at that level but now [15:27.480 --> 15:37.520] you have an ability to further this and go proactive or go on the offenses if you will [15:37.520 --> 15:42.920] you can take this court case now and you can fall straight up the line because these court [15:42.920 --> 15:49.880] cases these titles they are all bonded and without full disclosure somebody is making [15:49.880 --> 15:55.560] profit off of this you know they take your promissory note on your home it is sold multiple [15:55.560 --> 16:03.880] times yeah it is sold somebody takes that they bundle it into multiple QCIP numbers [16:03.880 --> 16:08.400] or if you will single QCIP numbers security and exchange commission takes that and begins [16:08.400 --> 16:13.240] trading it on Wall Street there is some profit going on it is your signature you are not [16:13.240 --> 16:20.120] getting the benefit of that profit so then because it is going to the security exchange [16:20.120 --> 16:29.680] commission therefore it is to your well again benefit to follow that up the line and the [16:29.680 --> 16:36.640] trail is deep and there is a lot of hands in that pod I mean the folks that aren't [16:36.640 --> 16:42.320] telling you this regarding disclosure and some of these folks are involved in it without [16:42.320 --> 16:46.960] even knowing really what their role is in it all right well listen listen hold on hold [16:46.960 --> 16:51.240] on we are going to break see all right we have a caller on the line too we will be right [16:51.240 --> 17:00.640] back okay we are talking about verification of power of attorney you invest you buy insurance [17:00.640 --> 17:05.560] you wear your seatbelt you do things to ensure your family's future and protection but why [17:05.560 --> 17:10.960] just in case with the current state of affairs ask yourself am I ready preparation starts [17:10.960 --> 17:16.840] at survivalgearsource.com survivalgearsource.com has a huge selection of vital products emergency 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about [19:37.000 --> 19:43.440] revocation of power of attorney and we have a caller on the line Debra from Georgia who [19:43.440 --> 19:47.280] called in to ask you a question Debra thanks for calling in what is your question for friend [19:47.280 --> 19:48.280] C? [19:48.280 --> 19:57.560] Hi C has helped me tremendously recently and I'm the help I mean against me C how are you [19:57.560 --> 19:58.560] doing? [19:58.560 --> 19:59.560] How are you? [19:59.560 --> 20:08.200] I'm doing fine and I'm prepared my RPOA to get going to the courthouse one of the questions [20:08.200 --> 20:15.160] what I want to let you know I'm going to send it through email today a federal investigative [20:15.160 --> 20:23.440] services came near my property but I have the no trespass sign and she told my son she [20:23.440 --> 20:28.240] lied to say that she was going to be investigating the people next door because of somebody you [20:28.240 --> 20:32.800] know getting a government job you know to see if they're going to be in a trust position [20:32.800 --> 20:39.000] and later we found a card on my doorstep trying to act like they want to ask questions about [20:39.000 --> 20:44.600] somebody else like we're going to tell them about our neighbors or like do you feel like [20:44.600 --> 20:51.360] they have any reason to speak to you about some other situation or I mean what? [20:51.360 --> 20:58.280] All I know is I had a 45 day letter from the IRS you know 45 a day was going with the 10th [20:58.280 --> 21:04.400] so the other thing for Thursday is the state revenue liquidating my assets if I don't pay [21:04.400 --> 21:10.880] by Thursday so that's why I'm doing a RPOA and the internal revenue was told me they [21:10.880 --> 21:15.160] was going to get back with me after they review my stuff you know except for value and everything [21:15.160 --> 21:21.920] in 45 days so I don't know who she is but I think she lied about how much she was coming [21:21.920 --> 21:26.440] for a neighbor and she tried to flash down my mother-in-law she's elderly her nurse [21:26.440 --> 21:27.440] was here. [21:27.440 --> 21:31.400] Oh yeah as much information as they can get out of you to use it against you later but [21:31.400 --> 21:36.000] you said federal agents she didn't identify herself any further than that or what defined [21:36.000 --> 21:38.000] federal agents then? [21:38.000 --> 21:42.440] At the time she didn't but what she did was seem like she waited for everybody to leave [21:42.440 --> 21:47.560] and then drop the cart on my doorstep for us to call her I said that didn't trap me [21:47.560 --> 21:50.560] she's trying to get me to trap her and act like she's investigating something else. [21:50.560 --> 21:51.560] That's exactly right yeah. [21:51.560 --> 21:58.360] But us to call her so I was also considering putting like the RPOA article 3 notice outside [21:58.360 --> 21:59.360] my door. [21:59.360 --> 22:08.120] That would be a good idea actually because actually some folks are doing it at work as [22:08.120 --> 22:16.160] far as a private property no trespass no trespassing but no trespass is relative to that you could [22:16.160 --> 22:20.400] do that but I would just call her up and tell her to stay off and as she tries to come back [22:20.400 --> 22:25.720] on again call the sheriff or call the local municipality I've got this crazy woman with [22:25.720 --> 22:32.320] a gun on my property and I'm in fear of my life and she doesn't have any paperwork to [22:32.320 --> 22:39.760] stay while she's there and federal jurisdiction is lame so I mean it works it does work. [22:39.760 --> 22:44.320] I know she didn't address me but I really feel that there's them and possibly MIB trying [22:44.320 --> 22:48.440] to eventually come to me but I think by the time they look again in the morning when they [22:48.440 --> 22:51.560] wake up they're going to see my notice post all over my house. [22:51.560 --> 22:52.560] Oh good. [22:52.560 --> 22:57.720] I do want to say you have a lot of callers and we all are just so impressed between you [22:57.720 --> 23:03.200] and Ralph I just want to say people who ever are listening she is the bomb and sorry about [23:03.200 --> 23:07.640] that word because I know they look like word right but you are awesome and I'm so glad [23:07.640 --> 23:11.400] I got a chance to tell you personally and I will of course keep nagging you about info [23:11.400 --> 23:16.560] but thank you for everybody's help and she's very wise everybody thank you for letting [23:16.560 --> 23:17.560] me speak. [23:17.560 --> 23:18.560] All right. [23:18.560 --> 23:19.560] Thank you Debra. [23:19.560 --> 23:20.560] That was Debra from Georgia. [23:20.560 --> 23:27.480] You got a fan club out there C. Okay so C would you please continue. [23:27.480 --> 23:28.480] Sure. [23:28.480 --> 23:29.480] Before we went to the break. [23:29.480 --> 23:30.480] Sure. [23:30.480 --> 23:36.200] I guess you're back on the train of thought then as far as finding the trail yeah you [23:36.200 --> 23:37.200] know. [23:37.200 --> 23:47.560] You can explain a RPOA Article 3 notice that she mentioned. [23:47.560 --> 23:52.280] Article 3 well that's the common law jurisdiction actually Article 3 court when you declare [23:52.280 --> 23:58.400] common law jurisdiction you're taking yourself into Article 3 jurisdiction. [23:58.400 --> 24:05.160] Okay is that there wasn't anything beyond that okay you're talking about the revocation [24:05.160 --> 24:11.200] of power of attorney Article 3 notice how do those two tie together or is that and the [24:11.200 --> 24:12.200] articles? [24:12.200 --> 24:15.640] Yeah that's pretty interesting you asked that too because you've got a couple of different [24:15.640 --> 24:21.480] factors engaging your revocation of power of attorney and for your safety really more [24:21.480 --> 24:25.800] anything else first of all yes you're declaring the revocation of power of attorney but you're [24:25.800 --> 24:27.600] declaring it in the common law. [24:27.600 --> 24:32.520] Now if any of these folks in the statutory try to refuse that or try to even call attention [24:32.520 --> 24:37.920] to it they have just engaged in common law entrance and left the statutory and that's [24:37.920 --> 24:41.920] a no no because they've got those adhesion contracts and that's just completely they [24:41.920 --> 24:45.240] get in other words they stick themselves with the bonds when they do that they are not going [24:45.240 --> 24:46.240] to do that. [24:46.240 --> 24:49.400] They are not going to traverse their own field of play. [24:49.400 --> 24:55.960] So I mean that's their own double jeopardy there as far as even engaging the RPOA is [24:55.960 --> 25:00.640] filed with a common law declaration it's really. [25:00.640 --> 25:04.560] What is the nature of the adhesion contracts? [25:04.560 --> 25:09.640] The nature of profit by all means for anyone other than ourselves. [25:09.640 --> 25:17.680] How is the adhesion contract created and how would I know when I'm dealing with one? [25:17.680 --> 25:19.840] How would you know when what please again? [25:19.840 --> 25:23.520] When I'm dealing with an adhesion contract. [25:23.520 --> 25:25.520] How would you know when you're dealing with one? [25:25.520 --> 25:33.240] When you have a present from the court of summons you have a bill those are all public [25:33.240 --> 25:34.240] filings. [25:34.240 --> 25:38.680] You know that you have been bonded if they are in the public if you have that on your [25:38.680 --> 25:46.880] credit report if you have that in a background check record those are bonded filings they [25:46.880 --> 25:48.480] are public. [25:48.480 --> 25:53.880] I mean you can of course break the presumption by filing or rather signing your name all [25:53.880 --> 25:57.960] rights reserved but you know the farthest distance doesn't stop there even if you sign [25:57.960 --> 26:02.920] all rights reserved they still continue to try to contract you around that. [26:02.920 --> 26:09.600] You know like that one gentleman and name escapes me an English gentleman I can't remember [26:09.600 --> 26:14.800] his name anyhow he spent 30 days in jail on a single traffic ticket and he signed all [26:14.800 --> 26:20.400] rights reserved of course he wasn't too well aware of what it was that he was signing but [26:20.400 --> 26:24.360] they were that's for sure and they couldn't get a contract on him which why they kept [26:24.360 --> 26:31.360] him in there as long as they could and of course without public record thereof to break [26:31.360 --> 26:39.440] this man so that he would find they were they already got the contract on him but the warrant [26:39.440 --> 26:45.240] if you will that's the judge or whichever actors involved in that they go and take those [26:45.240 --> 26:49.160] warrants out they become the surety for it and they need somebody to pick up the slack [26:49.160 --> 26:54.200] on that surety and accept the responsibility thereof and that would be yourself being the [26:54.200 --> 26:58.880] case is yours in the first place I mean these guys get in there they do this by design they're [26:58.880 --> 27:03.400] not they kind of have an idea there's something wrong with it but they're not challenging [27:03.400 --> 27:08.600] it but they're still proliferating the fraud any way you look at it. [27:08.600 --> 27:15.240] Okay I'm I've been trying to understand this for a while right now I kind of feel like [27:15.240 --> 27:23.640] you started in the middle of something and I missed the first class. [27:23.640 --> 27:31.040] I was playing hooky that day and how does all of this become commercial? [27:31.040 --> 27:37.240] Okay how does it they all start through your signature everything starts through your signature [27:37.240 --> 27:43.200] what it is you consent to of course you're not sure what you're consenting to a lot also [27:43.200 --> 27:48.040] I mean I mean how many times can anybody admit to the fact that they've signed something [27:48.040 --> 27:53.680] without really reading the fine print I'm just as guilty in that fine print though you [27:53.680 --> 28:00.880] have just assigned your rights away for anybody to offset against you and by offset generally [28:00.880 --> 28:08.000] it's with a treasure of a known entity and that could be your state and or federal jurisdiction [28:08.000 --> 28:13.840] if you will so I mean now we're talking about reading every single contract you come across [28:13.840 --> 28:20.040] or just sign the contract all rights reserved or just sign the contract and then revoke [28:20.040 --> 28:30.080] all power of attorney thereof these are identical I guess you could say remedy but it's still [28:30.080 --> 28:35.840] the reservation of rights is inclusive and by jumping in the middle that's understandable [28:35.840 --> 28:43.840] I mean where does the power of attorney how do you find the paper trail for that I mean [28:43.840 --> 28:51.240] I had to go and look high and low for that there's a if you go to a Pennsylvania University [28:51.240 --> 28:58.920] there are the precedent for there rather there's a list of precedent of statutes on their website [28:58.920 --> 29:07.680] for all states of course each state modifies the statute to suit themselves as their own [29:07.680 --> 29:13.160] sovereignty which all states are really are you talking what statutes are you talking [29:13.160 --> 29:17.480] about you're talking about models I'm talking about the uniform power of attorney act the [29:17.480 --> 29:22.880] uniform commercial code and other uniform act these are here you know you hear about [29:22.880 --> 29:26.280] the uniform commercial code all the time but you never hear about the uniform power of [29:26.280 --> 29:32.600] attorney act and it's very relative I mean even if you sign your driver's license if [29:32.600 --> 29:36.000] you look at the application it might not even state that on there but if they've got that [29:36.000 --> 29:41.640] flashed all over somewhere by the way you know this is what happens when you sign for [29:41.640 --> 29:46.760] your driver's license maybe you didn't read it but it's out there in the public and it's [29:46.760 --> 29:51.960] by declaration all right hold on one second see we're going to break we'll be right back [29:51.960 --> 29:58.840] we're going to talk now more about this power of attorney on the other side okay. 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[30:58.080 --> 31:18.960] Well this one is dedicated to the girl named Julie, she's well ghouly, some say she's cool, [31:18.960 --> 31:28.400] but Julie's no fool, she want money and come to romance, and I'm not not an angel, I'll [31:28.400 --> 31:35.400] count, because Julie knows she's well ghouly, she says she don't want no man with me, because [31:35.400 --> 31:41.400] Julie man she's well ghouly, she says she only want helicopter but not me, because you [31:41.400 --> 31:47.400] man need to bring the money, bring the money in US currency, bring the currency to give [31:47.400 --> 31:54.400] it to Julie, Julie says she love to always tell me, she says she only want US currency, [31:54.400 --> 32:01.400] but now the economy getting badly, while she's losing on autonomy, Julie says she only want [32:01.400 --> 32:09.400] yen around Sibika, Julie man she's well ghouly, she says she only want US currency, Julie man [32:09.400 --> 32:15.400] she's well ghouly, she says she only want helicopter but not me, but not me man need [32:15.400 --> 32:22.400] to bring the money, so that the man work for the women to see, so that the man work for [32:22.400 --> 32:26.400] the women to see, and when you come to print in all the young women, you better call helicopter [32:26.400 --> 32:32.400] Bonanti, and when you call him and he give the money, get the money and he print it quickly, [32:32.400 --> 32:39.400] get the order from the presidency, Julie says lord she's well ghouly, she want Bonanti to [32:39.400 --> 32:45.400] give she money, when Bonanti print quickly give it to she, she permission she go see [32:45.400 --> 32:52.400] everything, Bonanti only see the king in the street, the queen in the street nothing, [32:52.400 --> 32:54.400] you see all the men so happy. [32:54.400 --> 33:02.400] Okay, we are back, helicopter Bonanti, song about the federal reserve there, okay before [33:02.400 --> 33:08.400] we, before we go to the show, I have to make a comment here, this night I have gotten more [33:08.400 --> 33:13.400] people calling in that are just wanting to listen, than I think any other night, now [33:13.400 --> 33:17.400] apparently the listener line is full, alright and I have been trying to pay attention to [33:17.400 --> 33:21.400] my own show and screen the calls at the same time, which is a very difficult situation, [33:21.400 --> 33:27.400] alright so people listen, if you have a computer, alright if you can get online, please go to [33:27.400 --> 33:34.400] ruleoflawradio.com and listen online, because we need the numbers, this is what ups our [33:34.400 --> 33:40.400] Annie on shoutcast, alright listening on the listener line really doesn't help us, alright [33:40.400 --> 33:46.400] we need people to hit the website and listen to the stream on the website, okay people [33:46.400 --> 33:52.400] even if you are listening on one of our 15 AM and FM affiliates, alright we appreciate [33:52.400 --> 33:56.400] our affiliates, we love them carrying our stream, but please people we need as many [33:56.400 --> 34:02.400] people as possible who have the ability to please pull the stream from the website, okay [34:02.400 --> 34:08.400] but listening on the listener line doesn't help, alright and so if you have to listen [34:08.400 --> 34:12.400] on the listener line, because you are in a car and you are not online or whatever, that [34:12.400 --> 34:22.400] listener line number is 512-485-9010, the 512-646-1984 is for callers, is for people [34:22.400 --> 34:28.400] who want to call in and talk to us on the air, it is not a listener line, alright the [34:28.400 --> 34:34.400] listener line is 485-9010 with Erica 512, but please try to listen to the stream, okay [34:34.400 --> 34:38.400] because we need the numbers, alright I just want to make that clear because it is getting [34:38.400 --> 34:43.400] very confusing here, alright so Randy you had a question for C. [34:43.400 --> 34:52.400] Yes I have pulled down the Uniform Power of Attorney Act, I started reading it, it was [34:52.400 --> 35:02.400] a rather large document and gave me a headache frankly, what am I looking for, I saw the [35:02.400 --> 35:10.400] regular language of how to give someone power of attorney in different situations, what [35:10.400 --> 35:12.400] am I looking for there? [35:12.400 --> 35:16.400] Yes you know you are going to do that whenever you get into a banking situation, there is [35:16.400 --> 35:20.400] going to be in the contract, there is going to be power of attorney there somewhere and [35:20.400 --> 35:23.400] of course in their language, but you know that does not really connect the dots for [35:23.400 --> 35:29.400] you, I can tell you it is not like they are going to tell you by the way you know you [35:29.400 --> 35:32.400] are giving us power of attorney, we are going to go out and create a bunch of bonds against [35:32.400 --> 35:37.400] you, they are not going to do that obviously, so I mean for me it was just getting out there [35:37.400 --> 35:42.400] and just filing and then seeing the results and that is what gave me. [35:42.400 --> 35:51.400] Okay so you are saying the power of attorney is not like they hold out a separate document [35:51.400 --> 35:57.400] titled power of attorney, that power of attorney is embedded in the contract? [35:57.400 --> 35:59.400] Yes. [35:59.400 --> 36:07.400] Now is power of attorney embedded into a? [36:07.400 --> 36:10.400] Randy? [36:10.400 --> 36:21.400] How did my mic do, I did not do that, okay anyway how does power of attorney? [36:21.400 --> 36:22.400] Hello. [36:22.400 --> 36:25.400] Randy, I think we are losing Randy. [36:25.400 --> 36:27.400] My mic is muted. [36:27.400 --> 36:30.400] Yes, every time you say the word attorney you get cut off. [36:30.400 --> 36:38.400] Yes, maybe there is somebody there with a little button, okay I am trying to understand [36:38.400 --> 36:48.400] how I get into a contract where I grant someone power of attorney without being aware that [36:48.400 --> 36:53.400] I granted him power of attorney, because it is not like they wave a document in front [36:53.400 --> 36:56.400] of me and say hey this is a power of attorney, I want you to sign it. [36:56.400 --> 36:59.400] Well no they are not telling you that, well sometimes they tell you that though, actually [36:59.400 --> 37:04.400] sometimes they do, but I mean go back over some of the documents you have signed, your [37:04.400 --> 37:10.400] loan, your deed of trust, go look in there, because I mean basically you are the grantor, [37:10.400 --> 37:13.400] okay and then you do not make a payment if they throw you out. [37:13.400 --> 37:19.400] Now how on these foreclosure documents that says okay grantor and we are filing foreclosure, [37:19.400 --> 37:26.400] you know what grantor means, it means you are in charge, but through the deed of trust [37:26.400 --> 37:31.400] you have given them consent to task you out of your own house if you do not abide by their [37:31.400 --> 37:37.400] terms, whereas the promissory note actually paid off the house in full in the first place [37:37.400 --> 37:40.400] and then they take that promissory note and sell it multiple times. [37:40.400 --> 37:41.400] Okay, please answer the question. [37:41.400 --> 37:44.400] So there are three notes in the house, you have already paid the house off in full through [37:44.400 --> 37:47.400] the promissory note as credit of the United States bankruptcy, what do they do, they turn [37:47.400 --> 37:50.400] around and sell the house again and get somebody else to pay it off. [37:50.400 --> 37:59.400] Okay how does power of attorney enter into that, do I give them power of attorney over [37:59.400 --> 38:04.400] to handle the bond, to do what they do, do I make them trustees? [38:04.400 --> 38:10.400] To handle the bond and all the securities, to handle your, how you participate in the [38:10.400 --> 38:15.400] commerce of the contract also, I mean the mortgage company, you just told them okay [38:15.400 --> 38:17.400] do with me what you will. [38:17.400 --> 38:26.400] How do I unknowingly give someone power of attorney over a bond that I have no ideas [38:26.400 --> 38:29.400] ever created. [38:29.400 --> 38:31.400] How do you unknowingly do that? [38:31.400 --> 38:37.400] Right, I didn't know these bonds existed and somehow I gave- [38:37.400 --> 38:41.400] That's HDR192, how's that resolution 192? [38:41.400 --> 38:46.400] Well I understand that but I entered into a contract nobody ever said a word about [38:46.400 --> 38:47.400] HDR192. [38:47.400 --> 38:48.400] That's exactly right. [38:48.400 --> 38:52.400] Nobody ever said a word about any kinds of bonds, about any kind of- [38:52.400 --> 38:57.400] See that's public notice, that's your federal register right there, HDR192, we're allowed [38:57.400 --> 38:58.400] to do this. [38:58.400 --> 39:01.400] I can't read the federal register, it's 35,000 pages. [39:01.400 --> 39:07.400] How do I know when I enter into a contract, it has to be within the four corners of the [39:07.400 --> 39:13.400] contract and I enter into a contract to finance my house. [39:13.400 --> 39:17.400] It does not have to be within the four corners of the contract actually, it really doesn't. [39:17.400 --> 39:22.400] Then they can take the contracts just out of air without any- [39:22.400 --> 39:29.400] No on the state contracts, there is implied and there are express contracts. [39:29.400 --> 39:36.400] I went to one of the top law schools in the nation but I went for different disciplines [39:36.400 --> 39:41.400] and they don't teach you this stuff but in my course you can enter into a contract by [39:41.400 --> 39:43.400] handshake as long as there's two witnesses. [39:43.400 --> 39:51.400] The thing is though, if you're entering, if the person is representative of a corporation [39:51.400 --> 39:56.400] then you've just gotten statutory entrance. [39:56.400 --> 40:02.400] Whereas the corporation is the public entity, you are the private citizen, there is a crossover. [40:02.400 --> 40:05.400] Does that help somewhat? [40:05.400 --> 40:07.400] No. [40:07.400 --> 40:11.400] What I'm really looking at is the adhesion contracts. [40:11.400 --> 40:19.400] The contract I enter into without realizing that's what I'm doing. [40:19.400 --> 40:24.400] You want to find definitive proof of the adhesion contracts then? [40:24.400 --> 40:31.400] Well, I'm not so concerned about definitive proof because I want to understand how it's [40:31.400 --> 40:39.400] created so that I can understand how to uncreate it or how to avoid it. [40:39.400 --> 40:45.400] How do I avoid getting into a contract I'm not aware of? [40:45.400 --> 40:47.400] That's by your reservation of rights. [40:47.400 --> 40:52.400] First of all, all rights reserved after your name or UCC 1-207 depending on the state or [40:52.400 --> 40:54.400] UCC 1-308. [40:54.400 --> 41:01.400] Even though the Uniform Commercial Code is being subtly manipulated by Article 9 and [41:01.400 --> 41:14.400] for entrance into statutory, still the older versions call for respect and reverence, if [41:14.400 --> 41:19.400] you will, for the common law regardless or constitutional law, if you will. [41:19.400 --> 41:24.400] I mean, when you reserve your rights then, you are reserving your right not to enter [41:24.400 --> 41:29.400] into these contracts by virtue of your signature and only with the contract itself where the [41:29.400 --> 41:36.400] common law is consensual also but it's with full disclosure, statutory is not. [41:36.400 --> 41:38.400] That's what I'm getting at. [41:38.400 --> 41:48.400] I enter into statutory contracts by my actions and I'm not aware I've entered into the [41:48.400 --> 41:50.400] contract. [41:50.400 --> 41:58.400] This is not a contract I enter into under Uniform Commercial Code with full disclosure [41:58.400 --> 42:00.400] free of coercion. [42:00.400 --> 42:02.400] Agreed. [42:02.400 --> 42:05.400] But you were already contracted before then. [42:05.400 --> 42:07.400] You just contracted yourself further. [42:07.400 --> 42:09.400] You were already contracted initially. [42:09.400 --> 42:10.400] I understand that. [42:10.400 --> 42:16.400] I'm trying to figure out how I got there and how to recognize when I'm moving in that [42:16.400 --> 42:23.400] direction and then if I do find myself in one, how legally to extricate. [42:23.400 --> 42:32.400] The concern this brings up is if I enter into a contract knowingly and intentionally [42:32.400 --> 42:40.400] which grants power of attorney and then right after I enter into it, then I step back and [42:40.400 --> 42:41.400] revoke power of attorney. [42:41.400 --> 42:44.400] Doesn't that repudiate the contract? [42:44.400 --> 42:45.400] No. [42:45.400 --> 42:46.400] No. [42:46.400 --> 42:51.400] Because the contract itself, the heating contracts are separate contracts. [42:51.400 --> 42:54.400] They're not the original contract. [42:54.400 --> 42:55.400] Okay. [42:55.400 --> 42:57.400] Whereas with the original contract you're the creditor. [42:57.400 --> 43:02.400] As in the instance of the promissory note, you just paid off for your house. [43:02.400 --> 43:05.400] But they're not telling you, by the way, you paid your house in full. [43:05.400 --> 43:07.400] That's what I'm trying to tell you today. [43:07.400 --> 43:09.400] They're signing the promissory note. [43:09.400 --> 43:14.400] To you, what they're presenting to you is that, by the way, you just signed an IOU and [43:14.400 --> 43:16.400] you have to pay it off. [43:16.400 --> 43:20.400] They didn't tell you that the promissory note actually is full payment. [43:20.400 --> 43:21.400] Why? [43:21.400 --> 43:24.400] Because by virtue of the bankruptcy of the United States. [43:24.400 --> 43:29.400] So the adhesion contract then, in addition to the bonds, okay, the adhesion contract [43:29.400 --> 43:34.400] then is for them to tell you, okay, by virtue of this promissory note, now you have an IOU [43:34.400 --> 43:38.400] with us that you need to pay off and you need to fulfill the terms of that contract which [43:38.400 --> 43:40.400] is the original contract. [43:40.400 --> 43:42.400] Actually, no, that's not even the original contract. [43:42.400 --> 43:44.400] The original contract is the promissory note. [43:44.400 --> 43:47.400] The adhesion contract is them telling you you have to pay it off. [43:47.400 --> 43:51.400] And then, of course, further adhesion contracts are them selling your promissory note and [43:51.400 --> 43:52.400] selling it up the line. [43:52.400 --> 43:53.400] All right, listen. [43:53.400 --> 43:54.400] Listen, we're going to break. [43:54.400 --> 43:58.400] We'll be right back. [43:58.400 --> 44:01.400] Special Roast Hemp Coffee from HempUSA.org. [44:01.400 --> 44:05.400] Our coffee grows in the dense volcanic rich soil, herbicide and pesticide free, and in [44:05.400 --> 44:10.400] the high altitudes of Guatemala in conditions that are ideal for natural growth of this [44:10.400 --> 44:11.400] high quality coffee. 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[45:18.400 --> 45:22.400] We're here with our special guest, Cee, talking about revocation of power of attorney. [45:22.400 --> 45:28.400] All right, so Cee, if you would back up please and talk a little bit more about these contracts [45:28.400 --> 45:35.400] and the promissory note, how it is payment in full, because basically they turn that [45:35.400 --> 45:41.400] into a security instrument and they are able to get their remedy, their payment at that [45:41.400 --> 45:42.400] point. [45:42.400 --> 45:44.400] Many, many, many times over as a matter of fact. [45:44.400 --> 45:48.400] Multiple times, yeah, depending on the court cases, I mean, the high profication of court [45:48.400 --> 45:50.400] cases is really out there too. [45:50.400 --> 45:56.400] Okay, so can you give us an example of how revocation of power of attorney would be used [45:56.400 --> 45:57.400] in this case? [45:57.400 --> 45:58.400] For remedy? [45:58.400 --> 45:59.400] Okay, let's talk about the mortgage case. [45:59.400 --> 46:05.400] Well, you gave two examples regarding foreclosure on the break, so go over both of those. [46:05.400 --> 46:06.400] Sure. [46:06.400 --> 46:12.400] Okay, so you have your mortgage or you're not making your mortgage payments, you get [46:12.400 --> 46:14.400] a notice of default. [46:14.400 --> 46:18.400] Now, we'll take this in a nonjudicial capacity then. [46:18.400 --> 46:22.400] Basically, the thing is you need to file this in the county so you can go to your county [46:22.400 --> 46:27.400] clerk, but of course anybody who's gone before a county clerk and, you know, if they haven't [46:27.400 --> 46:34.400] had experience with her before to try to, you know, get her to understand her position [46:34.400 --> 46:38.400] in the matter where she has to accept your filings otherwise it's obstruction of justice, [46:38.400 --> 46:44.400] then, you know, you need to make your public declaration out somewhere anyway. [46:44.400 --> 46:48.400] I mean, you can send your revocation of power of attorney to them directly without filing [46:48.400 --> 46:51.400] it to the public, have it witnessed, you know. [46:51.400 --> 46:52.400] Does this work? [46:52.400 --> 46:53.400] Yes, it does. [46:53.400 --> 46:55.400] The thing is, is of course the proof of service. [46:55.400 --> 46:58.400] To me, you can file this into anything. [46:58.400 --> 47:02.400] I mean, you can even borrow somebody's court case and file it there. [47:02.400 --> 47:04.400] They can give you a limited power of attorney. [47:04.400 --> 47:06.400] You can file your declarations in that. [47:06.400 --> 47:13.400] Basically, all you're doing is take any court case is your public declaration where, you [47:13.400 --> 47:19.400] know, of course the county clerk, you know, she supersedes one particular area or one [47:19.400 --> 47:25.400] docket, if you will, but any court case will work for filing your public notices, but whereas [47:25.400 --> 47:31.400] in the case of, let's say, nonjudicial foreclosure you can start with that without making it [47:31.400 --> 47:38.400] public, but you see, that would be prohibitive then for them to engage in any type of trustee [47:38.400 --> 47:44.400] action or action with the sheriff because then you can also notice the sheriff. [47:44.400 --> 47:48.400] By the way, I sent the revocation of power of attorney and the sheriff didn't know what's [47:48.400 --> 47:49.400] going on. [47:49.400 --> 47:53.400] I mean, some of them don't, but, you know, when they start, they know that they need [47:53.400 --> 48:02.400] to be moved to operate in Article III capacity or rather by their oath of office. [48:02.400 --> 48:09.400] So, you know, you notice the sheriff or you notice the gun agencies and that's it. [48:09.400 --> 48:12.400] You're not looking at losing your house anytime soon. [48:12.400 --> 48:17.400] You know, it's prohibitive for them to even begin filing anything in order to do that [48:17.400 --> 48:20.400] and, of course, the sheriff, having been noticed, will not engage. [48:20.400 --> 48:24.400] That's nonjudicial. [48:24.400 --> 48:29.400] Judicial now, of course, you're going to file this into any court case and you're going [48:29.400 --> 48:33.400] to serve them and then you're going to file your proof of service into the court case, [48:33.400 --> 48:39.400] which, of course, is utterly important, but it's still prohibitive for them to engage [48:39.400 --> 48:40.400] any further. [48:40.400 --> 48:41.400] Wait a minute. [48:41.400 --> 48:43.400] Maybe I understand something. [48:43.400 --> 48:51.400] The power, when you file the revocation of power of attorney, then that takes away their [48:51.400 --> 48:53.400] control of the bond. [48:53.400 --> 48:55.400] Yes. [48:55.400 --> 48:56.400] That's already been paid off. [48:56.400 --> 48:57.400] Absolutely. [48:57.400 --> 49:00.400] It sticks them with the bond, especially in court cases. [49:00.400 --> 49:05.400] Yes, judges don't want, judges do not like that because they assign themselves surety [49:05.400 --> 49:08.400] for bonds and warranty or rather warrants rather. [49:08.400 --> 49:11.400] So, I mean, they've got a warrant for your arrest. [49:11.400 --> 49:15.400] Well, in order to get that warrant for your arrest, they made them self-surety first, [49:15.400 --> 49:21.400] then they stick your body in jail, and then they assign you the tax bill, if you will, [49:21.400 --> 49:22.400] for that warrant. [49:22.400 --> 49:23.400] Wait a minute. [49:23.400 --> 49:24.400] If they can get you in jail. [49:24.400 --> 49:25.400] Wait a minute. [49:25.400 --> 49:32.400] That brings up an interesting avenue, the reason that I want to understand this better. [49:32.400 --> 49:35.400] I'm in a case out of Cherokee County. [49:35.400 --> 49:36.400] I know. [49:36.400 --> 49:37.400] I was going to say file it into there. [49:37.400 --> 49:38.400] Come on, Randy, do it. [49:38.400 --> 49:39.400] I am. [49:39.400 --> 49:40.400] I will. [49:40.400 --> 49:42.400] Listen, it gets more interesting. [49:42.400 --> 49:43.400] Okay. [49:43.400 --> 49:46.400] The judge did not issue the warrant. [49:46.400 --> 49:47.400] A warrant? [49:47.400 --> 49:48.400] He didn't? [49:48.400 --> 49:51.400] No, the clerk did. [49:51.400 --> 49:55.400] And the clerk is forbidden by law to do that in the Constitution. [49:55.400 --> 49:57.400] Yeah, impersonating an officer. [49:57.400 --> 50:00.400] So, who became the surety? [50:00.400 --> 50:05.400] Oh, that would be the clerk then. [50:05.400 --> 50:07.400] Oh, life is good. [50:07.400 --> 50:12.400] So, how do I nail the clerk? [50:12.400 --> 50:13.400] I totally forgot about that. [50:13.400 --> 50:14.400] That's true. [50:14.400 --> 50:15.400] They do that. [50:15.400 --> 50:16.400] Yeah. [50:16.400 --> 50:17.400] They become surety for us. [50:17.400 --> 50:19.400] Oh, look at that. [50:19.400 --> 50:23.400] The judge just passed off responsibility on somebody else to accept the tax bill. [50:23.400 --> 50:24.400] Okay, understand. [50:24.400 --> 50:26.400] The clerk here is my leverage. [50:26.400 --> 50:36.400] I have filed a whole stack of criminal charges against the clerk, claiming that she has acted in concert inclusion [50:36.400 --> 50:37.400] with all these other guys. [50:37.400 --> 50:41.400] So, I charged her for filing, for signing the warrant. [50:41.400 --> 50:49.400] I also charged her for tampering with a witness, obstruction of justice, perjury, subordination of perjury, [50:49.400 --> 50:50.400] just on and on. [50:50.400 --> 50:52.400] Like, I'm just stuck in a sanatorium. [50:52.400 --> 50:54.400] It's not going to go anywhere because her buddies are going to make sure of it. [50:54.400 --> 50:55.400] Well, I understand that. [50:55.400 --> 50:57.400] You've got to really take the power of attorney, though. [50:57.400 --> 50:58.400] Ooh, that's trouble. [50:58.400 --> 50:59.400] That's why this looks good. [50:59.400 --> 51:04.400] What I did was told her what I was doing to her and apologized to her for having to do that. [51:04.400 --> 51:10.400] I realized that you have been given bad advice, but I can't pick and choose who I file against. [51:10.400 --> 51:18.400] So, when I told her that, I know she ran and grabbed the judge around his throat and was wanting to know why [51:18.400 --> 51:25.400] she's getting in trouble and getting charges filed against her because doing what he said. [51:25.400 --> 51:27.400] He put her out in front. [51:27.400 --> 51:32.400] If I can also make her the surety, she's going to claw his eyes out. [51:32.400 --> 51:36.400] There's nothing worse than the court of angry woman. [51:36.400 --> 51:38.400] Oh, yeah. [51:38.400 --> 51:43.400] The judge has basically just turned her into a cannon fodder, so he's not going to have to deal with it. [51:43.400 --> 51:44.400] It's all he's done. [51:44.400 --> 51:46.400] That's exactly what he's done. [51:46.400 --> 51:53.400] What I want to do is create that image in the mind of the clerk and of every official. [51:53.400 --> 51:55.400] Yeah, use the psychology of the situation. [51:55.400 --> 51:56.400] That's what they do to us. [51:56.400 --> 51:59.400] They have us at each other's throats, so do that for them. [51:59.400 --> 52:01.400] Oh, that's what I've been doing. [52:01.400 --> 52:05.400] You're going to give me some real powerful tool to do that with. [52:05.400 --> 52:07.400] So, I really need to understand that. [52:07.400 --> 52:15.400] That's why I want to understand this is how we can use it in the criminal to force these people back within rule of law. [52:15.400 --> 52:17.400] See, that's another thing, too. [52:17.400 --> 52:23.400] See, on the criminal affidavit in the statutory now, you have to have one of them verify it, which usually meets the resistance. [52:23.400 --> 52:28.400] But in the common law, you do not have to have anybody oath to verify anything. [52:28.400 --> 52:35.400] And by common law, you see, I haven't touched on that part because really the revocation of the power of attorney, [52:35.400 --> 52:37.400] it scares the bejeebers out of them. [52:37.400 --> 52:39.400] I mean, they run for cover. [52:39.400 --> 52:46.400] Okay, one thing we need to realize, as we get more people doing this, they're going to develop a defense. [52:46.400 --> 52:48.400] A new tactic, I know. [52:48.400 --> 52:56.400] I want to be at least two steps in front of them. [52:56.400 --> 53:00.400] Well, right now, and I was thinking about that, too, you know, advanced preparation. [53:00.400 --> 53:05.400] Now, what would be their remedy then to try to continue on with the fraudulent system? [53:05.400 --> 53:08.400] And I've thought on that and thought on that and thought on that. [53:08.400 --> 53:17.400] And right now, I don't see that unless they just completely turn our country upside down because, honestly, the statutory system is nationwide. [53:17.400 --> 53:19.400] Okay, we have to expect them. [53:19.400 --> 53:23.400] Okay, that's because you're having trouble because you're an honest person. [53:23.400 --> 53:26.400] They cheat. [53:26.400 --> 53:27.400] Well, of course. [53:27.400 --> 53:29.400] So how would we cheat? [53:29.400 --> 53:31.400] How would they cheat us? [53:31.400 --> 53:33.400] What would they do? [53:33.400 --> 53:39.400] Oh, okay, now this thought did occur to me because this is something you can do, [53:39.400 --> 53:43.400] and that is you can issue a declaration of power of attorney over somebody. [53:43.400 --> 53:45.400] And, of course, we're going to make power of attorney right now. [53:45.400 --> 53:46.400] I'm just speaking on that. [53:46.400 --> 53:51.400] But I'm sure there are other elements that would give them remedy. [53:51.400 --> 53:57.400] But you can issue a declaration of power of attorney over somebody if they don't rebut and give them a period of time to rebut it. [53:57.400 --> 54:01.400] And if they don't rebut it with that period of time, you automatically have power of attorney over them. [54:01.400 --> 54:05.400] So, I mean, for all intents and purposes, from what I see, we can go back and forth over that, [54:05.400 --> 54:11.400] which means you have to look for where they do this in order to be able to rebut this. [54:11.400 --> 54:21.400] You know, now that I've just said this, you know, whoever's listening to this might, oh, well, she just gave us a remedy. [54:21.400 --> 54:28.400] Well, maybe, but so far I haven't found them sharp. [54:28.400 --> 54:30.400] Most of them aren't sharp enough. [54:30.400 --> 54:35.400] We seem to have two kinds of people who become prosecutors. [54:35.400 --> 54:45.400] One is the guy who took him the third time to pass the bar exam and no law firm would hire him, not the sharpest knife in the drawer. [54:45.400 --> 54:50.400] The other one is the guy who aspires to a political position. [54:50.400 --> 54:57.400] That is the sharp knife in the drawer, and that's the one I always want to play to. [54:57.400 --> 55:05.400] Yeah, well, the thing with that, too, is that in a way, in this example, the local district attorney here, I use him. [55:05.400 --> 55:06.400] I use him a lot. [55:06.400 --> 55:07.400] It sounds awful, but it's true. [55:07.400 --> 55:09.400] But I don't think he's that bad of a guy. [55:09.400 --> 55:18.400] I think he's caught up in a situation that he didn't realize he was getting into, and now, oh, shoot, here I am, but now I've got to try to make the best of it. [55:18.400 --> 55:25.400] So, I mean, you know, he's gotten a lot of my love letters, and, you know, they definitely were an attitude adjustment for him, [55:25.400 --> 55:28.400] and I've noticed changes in the county, too, since he's gotten them. [55:28.400 --> 55:41.400] Well, you know, I'm glad that you said that because this is a position I've taken all along, is I don't see these guys being as smart as they're given credit for being. [55:41.400 --> 55:48.400] I see them falling into something and doing things the way they're done because that's the way they're done. [55:48.400 --> 55:50.400] It's rude, yeah. [55:50.400 --> 55:59.400] They're afraid to do it different because they're afraid some problem will precipitate out of the air that they never anticipated. [55:59.400 --> 56:00.400] Exactly. [56:00.400 --> 56:02.400] Well, it will knock them off their little pedestal. [56:02.400 --> 56:03.400] I mean, come on. [56:03.400 --> 56:12.400] When you're into elected position, everybody, you're glorified, everybody loves you, you know, your self-esteem, your self-respect is just through the roof. [56:12.400 --> 56:19.400] You know, you want to keep it that way, obviously, whereas if you're on the other end of the spectrum, well, that's the psychology of the situation, too, [56:19.400 --> 56:26.400] is to utterly destroy the self-respect and self-esteem of individuals, and that's what happened to our country. [56:26.400 --> 56:34.400] I mean, we lost our pride because we let these people, you know, take it from us, you know, and that's such a tragedy. [56:34.400 --> 56:36.400] It's the largest tragedy, you know. [56:36.400 --> 56:40.400] I think that's a lot of what we're going through right now as a whole nation. [56:40.400 --> 56:42.400] Yeah, I think this is a time. [56:42.400 --> 56:44.400] It's time for us to reassert ourselves, you know. [56:44.400 --> 56:53.400] We go through times where things are easy and we're not under stress and we're not diligent and we let things get out of control. [56:53.400 --> 56:54.400] That's right. [56:54.400 --> 56:55.400] We're complacent, yeah. [56:55.400 --> 57:01.400] And then we go through cycles of adjustment, and this is just a period of adjustment. [57:01.400 --> 57:05.400] That's the divine law of averages, which is the real public service, you know. [57:05.400 --> 57:07.400] I mean, you're out of balance there for a while. [57:07.400 --> 57:13.400] I mean, you're complacent, everything suddenly sneaks up on you, then all of a sudden you have to get proactive, [57:13.400 --> 57:16.400] and you go back and forth over this over a period of time. [57:16.400 --> 57:19.400] But then there's an element in there, too, that keeps on testing us. [57:19.400 --> 57:21.400] Yeah, good. [57:21.400 --> 57:25.400] And I keep saying this to people so that they don't feel so depressed. [57:25.400 --> 57:27.400] It's not as bad as it appears. [57:27.400 --> 57:31.400] Every 40 or 50 years we have to do this. [57:31.400 --> 57:34.400] Our parents went through a depression. [57:34.400 --> 57:35.400] Yeah. [57:35.400 --> 57:37.400] We're going to go through a depression. [57:37.400 --> 57:40.400] This is how it works. [57:40.400 --> 57:44.400] You know, I don't think depression would probably be welcome somewhat. [57:44.400 --> 57:52.400] I mean, we'll have a – okay, so maybe we'll start using shelves to pay for things, or we'll barter, you know. [57:52.400 --> 57:57.400] But I'm saying there's something I've noticed about Texas, and this is just citing Texas as an example, [57:57.400 --> 58:02.400] because the republic, when the rest of the United States is doing terrible, Texas is doing really good. [58:02.400 --> 58:09.400] And I don't understand the principle in that, mostly, some part, yes. [58:09.400 --> 58:10.400] I think we're going to break now. [58:10.400 --> 58:12.400] Yeah, we're at the top of the hour. [58:12.400 --> 58:15.400] And maybe when we get back, I'd like to start taking some calls. [58:15.400 --> 58:17.400] We've got some of our longtime callers that are calling in. [58:17.400 --> 58:22.400] Wendy from Tennessee, she probably has some comments on this situation as well. [58:22.400 --> 58:26.400] She's been invoking quite a number of commercial remedies herself. [58:26.400 --> 58:28.400] And Christian from Florida is also an artist. [58:28.400 --> 58:30.400] She's a lady who engages in liens considerably, right? [58:30.400 --> 58:32.400] Yes, yes. [58:32.400 --> 58:34.400] We've got Christian from Florida, Rick from California. [58:34.400 --> 58:38.400] So we'll be right back after this top-of-the-hour break. [58:38.400 --> 58:41.400] This is Rule of Law on Rule of Law Radio. [59:08.400 --> 59:10.400] This is Rule of Law on Rule of Law Radio. [59:38.400 --> 01:00:06.400] You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com. [01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:35.400] Live free speech talk radio at its best. [01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:36.400] Okay, we are back. [01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:40.400] The Rule of Law here on Rule of Law Radio. [01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:43.400] Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig. [01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:45.400] We're here with our very special guest, Cee. [01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:47.400] We're going to be taking your calls now. [01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:50.400] When we ask callers, please stay on topic. [01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:51.400] Please stay on point. [01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:53.400] We're going to go first to Wendy in Tennessee. [01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:56.400] She's been invoking some commercial remedies. [01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:58.400] Wendy, thanks for calling in. [01:00:58.400 --> 01:00:59.400] What's on your mind? [01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:00.400] Do you have a question for Cee? [01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:01.400] Yes, I do. [01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:05.400] Cee and my friend Buddy who had a house issue here, [01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:08.400] that they have sold his home on a share sale, [01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:11.400] and they have taken his possessions and stuff, [01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:15.400] but they haven't invoked him as of yet. [01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:19.400] We did the revocation of the power of attorney [01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:21.400] and rescission of the signature, [01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:24.400] and the attorney, we filed it. [01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:28.400] We emailed a copy to the Register of Dates office, [01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:31.400] and her attorney says, [01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:33.400] it does not appear to be any source [01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:36.400] of legitimate revocation of power of attorney, [01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:38.400] but instead appears to be a document [01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:42.400] trying to undo mortgage documents [01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:45.400] that have been recorded in the Register of Dates office. [01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:47.400] It's not appropriate. [01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:49.400] That's absolutely true. [01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:53.400] Did he sign over his rights as grantor [01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:55.400] to the property by any chance? [01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:57.400] Because what they do is they kick you out first, [01:01:57.400 --> 01:02:01.400] kick you with some crazy deal like cash for keys. [01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:02.400] They say, we'll give you money for the keys, [01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:03.400] but really they don't need that. [01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:05.400] They can just break in the house. [01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:08.400] No, he hasn't. [01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:10.400] He's supposed to appear in court. [01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:11.400] Oh, okay. [01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:14.400] How recent is this? [01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:18.400] Well, they came and got his stuff Wednesday. [01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:21.400] They supposedly sold the home on June 4, [01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:28.400] and he's supposed to go to court because of a detainer warrant. [01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:30.400] A variety. [01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:33.400] A detainer warrant for a separate situation? [01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:35.400] No, for the same thing. [01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:38.400] For the same thing, okay. [01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:42.400] Who did he file the revocation of power of attorney with specifically? [01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:45.400] Well, he filed it with the Register of Dates [01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:48.400] and into the court case. [01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:51.400] Okay, but did he serve anybody else? [01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:54.400] That's just part of the remedy. [01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:56.400] Did he serve it to anybody else? [01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:57.400] No, he hasn't. [01:02:57.400 --> 01:02:59.400] Who else would he be serving? [01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:02.400] It's a court case, so the judge would be part of it. [01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:06.400] Since it's in, obviously the clerk of the court got the case, [01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:08.400] so we have that in there. [01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:10.400] Hopefully you have your proof of service with that too. [01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:13.400] Serve it to the sheriff, all the gun agencies. [01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:15.400] Go get back in the house. [01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:17.400] Oh, and serve it to the mortgage company too. [01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:19.400] And go move back in. [01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:22.400] Okay, we will do. [01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:23.400] Thank you. [01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:25.400] Anyway, I won't hang up. [01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:27.400] Something else you might want to do too, [01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:30.400] since you filed that in the court case, get your proof of services together, [01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:31.400] make a little folder. [01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:32.400] I like those. [01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:34.400] It works out quite well. [01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:37.400] You might want to stick that in the window after you move back in. [01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:40.400] Well, obviously you're serving the mortgage company, [01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:43.400] but once they get that revocation of power of attorney and notice of fraud, [01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:45.400] I don't think you'll be hearing from them again. [01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:47.400] You might even want to. [01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:48.400] I don't know. [01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:51.400] Is the deed of trust and the promissory note two separate instruments? [01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:54.400] Do you know? [01:03:54.400 --> 01:04:00.400] Sometimes they make the deed of trust and the promissory note one and the same. [01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.400] Well, I'm not sure. [01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:03.400] I mean, I'll look. [01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:04.400] I'll check it out. [01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:07.400] But he is living in the home still. [01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:09.400] Oh, good. [01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:12.400] They haven't evicted him yet. [01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:13.400] Oh, even better. [01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:17.400] Yeah, just serve all the alpha betters and the local gun agencies, [01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:18.400] and he'll be fine. [01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:19.400] Okay. [01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:20.400] You hear that, Betty, don't you? [01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:21.400] He's listening to mine. [01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:22.400] Okay. [01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:24.400] I've got a lot to do. [01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:26.400] Anyway, I'll let you go. [01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:30.400] You might even want to take up the deal with the situation of that is, [01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:32.400] okay, that's not to the county level, [01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:37.400] but the bonds against the promissory notes are still generating the obligation. [01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:41.400] So with me, what I like to do is I have a tendency to file a rash. [01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:44.400] I guess I'm kind of extreme like that. [01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:45.400] I just followed up the line. [01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:49.400] I give it to the treasurer, the county treasurer, the county auditor, [01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:53.400] and for Grims I serve the district attorney too in case they try anything else. [01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:55.400] Okay, I did that in my husband's case. [01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:57.400] Also to the state comptroller. [01:04:57.400 --> 01:04:58.400] Sorry? [01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:00.400] I did that in my husband's case. [01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:02.400] So we've never had them. [01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:06.400] Yeah, the state comptroller, just for Grims, the state attorney general's office too, [01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:09.400] because these guys, you know, hey, look at what she's doing. [01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:10.400] She's calling fraud on us. [01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:12.400] Shut that business down now. [01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:14.400] They start fighting with each other. [01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:15.400] We'll let them fight. [01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:17.400] Let them eat cake, you know? [01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:18.400] So it's serving up the line. [01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:22.400] And stick it with the Treasury also, the Treasury, the IRS, [01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:25.400] and I would even go as far as to send it to the DTC, the Federal Reserve, [01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:28.400] and to the SEC also. [01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:30.400] Okay, I appreciate that. [01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:32.400] Here's something else to that. [01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:33.400] I'm sorry. [01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:37.400] I've got to add to this too because you're not only indemnifying yourself with the House, [01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:39.400] but any future presentments as well. [01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:44.400] I mean, this is for any future activity, you're protecting yourself. [01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:46.400] They're going to remember you, in other words, in the future, [01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:51.400] and they're not going to be sorely pressed to want to do anything else like this ever again with you. [01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:54.400] I bet they'll remember us. [01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:56.400] They will remember you, I guarantee it. [01:05:56.400 --> 01:06:01.400] I've got cops right now, and the constables and sheriffs all passed by, [01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.400] and I'll be driving, and you can see them stop wherever they're at. [01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:08.400] They see me coming, and they stop, even if it's in the middle of the road. [01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:11.400] They just let me by. [01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:12.400] It's really funny. [01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:15.400] That's good. [01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:17.400] I'm nervous with a smile. [01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:21.400] Anyway, I'd like to go because I know there's so many other people who need help too, [01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:22.400] and I appreciate it. [01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:23.400] Thank you. [01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:24.400] Bye-bye. [01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:25.400] Thanks, Wendy. [01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:29.400] Okay, let's go now to Brian in Pennsylvania. [01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:30.400] Brian, thanks for calling in. [01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:34.400] What's your question for our guest, C? [01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:38.400] Well, I wasn't expecting that already. [01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:40.400] Thank you. [01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:41.400] Go ahead. [01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:42.400] What is your question for our guest? [01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:43.400] I have two really. [01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:50.400] I was hoping she could maybe get more into the nuts and bolts of what she's talking about with the Revocation of Power of Attorney, [01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:59.400] and I think maybe it would be easier to say first is I may be having a problem with maybe what Randy might be having too [01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:06.400] and trying to have the equity being separated once you're going commercial, [01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:11.400] because couldn't it still be an equitable court like an Article III court would be? [01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:20.400] Okay, so you're separating the assets from the obligations, is that what you're saying, of sorts? [01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:25.400] Well, right, because wouldn't there still be some type of grievance or tort, you know? [01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:29.400] Against who, though? Against them or...? [01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:30.400] Oh, right. [01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:35.400] Somebody has a complaint against you, say. [01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:40.400] Somebody has a complaint against you under Article III jurisdiction, is that what I'm getting? [01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:41.400] No, no, no. [01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:46.400] I'm saying because it's commercial, I don't understand why that can't be, say, an Article III court, [01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:52.400] because that's what I'm getting the gist of, that's what I'm picking up, right, what you're saying? [01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:57.400] I guess I'm not quite following you, then, because I mean, I know right now, presently, everything is in... [01:07:57.400 --> 01:08:05.400] all things commercial are in the statutory, or at least that's the state of the system, if you will. [01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:10.400] So are you talking about where I want to take it, then, is take them into Article III jurisdiction, then, [01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:14.400] as far as the obligation is concerned? [01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:18.400] Right, you're trying to force them to uphold Article III oaths, is that what you're saying? [01:08:18.400 --> 01:08:25.400] Absolutely. When you declare a common law, first of all, with the revocation of power of attorney, [01:08:25.400 --> 01:08:30.400] that in itself, you can do a revocation of power of attorney in the statutory, you know, [01:08:30.400 --> 01:08:37.400] but the thing is, is that the really excellent thing about declaring a revocation of power of attorney [01:08:37.400 --> 01:08:41.400] in the common law is that they do not want to touch any common law declaration, [01:08:41.400 --> 01:08:47.400] because then they have just left the statutory jurisdiction and entered your jurisdiction. [01:08:47.400 --> 01:08:49.400] They don't want to do that. [01:08:49.400 --> 01:08:53.400] To do that, then, and if there are sureties for any bonds or any warrants, [01:08:53.400 --> 01:08:55.400] they've just given themselves the bill. [01:08:55.400 --> 01:08:59.400] They don't want to do that. They don't want... they want you to have the bill. [01:08:59.400 --> 01:09:00.400] Right. [01:09:00.400 --> 01:09:02.400] Is that making sense? [01:09:02.400 --> 01:09:07.400] If, to take something that I recently heard from someone speaking, if the books do have to balance, [01:09:07.400 --> 01:09:10.400] then, you know, someone would be left holding the bag. [01:09:10.400 --> 01:09:12.400] So, right, they don't want to be... [01:09:12.400 --> 01:09:15.400] That's right, somebody's getting stuck with the bond, guaranteed. [01:09:15.400 --> 01:09:21.400] If these arrest warrants get destroyed, you know, the judge is over himself. [01:09:21.400 --> 01:09:27.400] I mean, the sheriff, chances are, well, if anybody's going to get rid of the warrant for arrest, [01:09:27.400 --> 01:09:32.400] it will be the sheriff, because really, he's the higher authority in the county, or at least he's the guy [01:09:32.400 --> 01:09:39.400] that is not engaging in the profit of any obligation without disclosure. [01:09:39.400 --> 01:09:41.400] He's not getting any money for that. [01:09:41.400 --> 01:09:46.400] He's got a gun, though, and they engage him to operate in a capacity for which they do, [01:09:46.400 --> 01:09:48.400] because, you know, it's by their office. [01:09:48.400 --> 01:09:50.400] Well, the sheriff is the real law, though. [01:09:50.400 --> 01:09:52.400] The sheriff is the law. [01:09:52.400 --> 01:09:57.400] I mean, you can tell that the FBI or whatever, [01:09:57.400 --> 01:10:00.400] Alpha Better comes into the county and says, hey, well, we're taking over. [01:10:00.400 --> 01:10:03.400] The sheriff is not like hell you are, you know. [01:10:03.400 --> 01:10:04.400] Hopefully. [01:10:04.400 --> 01:10:05.400] They have the power to say that. [01:10:05.400 --> 01:10:07.400] Right. [01:10:07.400 --> 01:10:14.400] Now, could you go more into the nuts and bolts of what makes up the revocation of power of attorney? [01:10:14.400 --> 01:10:15.400] Okay. [01:10:15.400 --> 01:10:19.400] That particular form, have you seen it by any chance? [01:10:19.400 --> 01:10:20.400] No. [01:10:20.400 --> 01:10:23.400] Do you have it somewhere in the public domain? [01:10:23.400 --> 01:10:24.400] Oh, yeah. [01:10:24.400 --> 01:10:25.400] Okay. [01:10:25.400 --> 01:10:30.400] There's a couple of different areas, but one of them is on a Yahoo group. [01:10:30.400 --> 01:10:34.400] Wow, there's already 2,000 members on there, but I guess we're going to have some more. [01:10:34.400 --> 01:10:38.400] It's called Redemption by Method. [01:10:38.400 --> 01:10:39.400] Right. [01:10:39.400 --> 01:10:40.400] Yeah. [01:10:40.400 --> 01:10:42.400] That's in the file section. [01:10:42.400 --> 01:10:45.400] Okay. [01:10:45.400 --> 01:10:46.400] You can get on there. [01:10:46.400 --> 01:10:50.400] There's a notice box, too, and I'm sorry, it's eluding me right now, but you can get on that group. [01:10:50.400 --> 01:10:55.400] There's a lot of folks on there that say, yeah, if not, they've got their own copies over to you, [01:10:55.400 --> 01:10:58.400] or if not, I will, because I'm on that group as well. [01:10:58.400 --> 01:11:00.400] We discuss it quite liberally. [01:11:00.400 --> 01:11:04.400] I mean, it's like baking a cake, you know, serve it liberally. [01:11:04.400 --> 01:11:06.400] What's your name again? [01:11:06.400 --> 01:11:08.400] Redemption by Method. [01:11:08.400 --> 01:11:09.400] No, not you. [01:11:09.400 --> 01:11:11.400] Was it Sue? [01:11:11.400 --> 01:11:12.400] I beg your pardon? [01:11:12.400 --> 01:11:13.400] C. [01:11:13.400 --> 01:11:16.400] Oh, C. All right. [01:11:16.400 --> 01:11:18.400] All right. [01:11:18.400 --> 01:11:20.400] Yeah, well, it sounds interesting. [01:11:20.400 --> 01:11:27.400] I just think that it's, you know, maybe if people don't really understand the court procedures well enough, [01:11:27.400 --> 01:11:29.400] they might find it dangerous. [01:11:29.400 --> 01:11:34.400] I think that it's not really dangerous, but if people are trying to make the law up and get confused, [01:11:34.400 --> 01:11:36.400] like maybe even I would, you know, at least. [01:11:36.400 --> 01:11:38.400] Yeah. [01:11:38.400 --> 01:11:44.400] Well, I mean, you know, a lot, I can tell you, before I started filing the revocation of the power of attorney, [01:11:44.400 --> 01:11:47.400] I did the common law copyright, so I saw that working. [01:11:47.400 --> 01:11:55.400] I mean, I was sending love letters that, you know, I know that I was expecting them to show up on my doorstep at any minute, [01:11:55.400 --> 01:11:58.400] and they didn't, so I knew something was protecting me. [01:11:58.400 --> 01:12:03.400] So I got in with the copyright to start with, and then I started filing everything else, [01:12:03.400 --> 01:12:09.400] and I thought, you know, for everything I hear about on the news, they should have already jacked me up a long time ago. [01:12:09.400 --> 01:12:13.400] So I'm doing something right, basically, you know. [01:12:13.400 --> 01:12:19.400] But in the revocation of power of attorney, I mean, that's just, that's the enforcement also for the copyright, [01:12:19.400 --> 01:12:27.400] because, okay, yes, it's a common law copyright, but they can tell you, no, we can't do anything if you're not trying to enforce it. [01:12:27.400 --> 01:12:29.400] That's the enforcement for the 1099-OID. [01:12:29.400 --> 01:12:32.400] That's the enforcement for anything, and that's kind of where I'm at right now, [01:12:32.400 --> 01:12:36.400] because here I am revoking power of attorney with all the alphabeters, all the agencies, [01:12:36.400 --> 01:12:43.400] and if these bonds are operating, I want to see what they're, okay, before they were funneling these monies off to foreign countries, [01:12:43.400 --> 01:12:45.400] maybe China, who knows. [01:12:45.400 --> 01:12:48.400] Okay, now that they got the revocation of power of attorney, where do those monies go? [01:12:48.400 --> 01:12:51.400] I'm interested in seeing the results of that personally. [01:12:51.400 --> 01:12:54.400] And why do you need to necessarily revoke the power of attorney? [01:12:54.400 --> 01:13:01.400] Because you have a unilateral contract there, or because there's some phraseology in some papers that you associated with this entity? [01:13:01.400 --> 01:13:04.400] Both, especially in written. [01:13:04.400 --> 01:13:05.400] All right. [01:13:05.400 --> 01:13:07.400] I mean, first of all, it starts with a state contract. [01:13:07.400 --> 01:13:12.400] That, and really, again, the Chicken of the Eight, which came first, I mean, your parents, [01:13:12.400 --> 01:13:15.400] you're a product of their state-licensed marriage. [01:13:15.400 --> 01:13:20.400] I mean, the state owns the marriage, really, and all products thereof, which happen to be you. [01:13:20.400 --> 01:13:26.400] Or, of course, it could be in the case where it's just your mom, who also, you know, by virtue of her contract, [01:13:26.400 --> 01:13:29.400] gave power of attorney over you to the state as well. [01:13:29.400 --> 01:13:30.400] That's inception. [01:13:30.400 --> 01:13:32.400] Another party in my marriage. [01:13:32.400 --> 01:13:37.400] If there's a three-party, it's between me, a wife, and a creator, not the state. [01:13:37.400 --> 01:13:39.400] Agreed, completely agreed. [01:13:39.400 --> 01:13:43.400] I mean, you can still go ahead and get your marriage license as long as you sign all rights reserved, [01:13:43.400 --> 01:13:48.400] which you should be doing on anything, on everything anyway, on every single bill. [01:13:48.400 --> 01:13:55.400] And anytime you sign your signature anywhere, any singular time, you should always be reserving your rights, [01:13:55.400 --> 01:13:57.400] always a reservation of rights. [01:13:57.400 --> 01:14:02.400] I mean, this gets rid of, the signature alone gets rid of hospital bills, all kinds of things. [01:14:02.400 --> 01:14:06.400] That's the RPOA right there, where you did not sign your reservation of rights. [01:14:06.400 --> 01:14:09.400] The RPA goes back and puts them on notice. [01:14:09.400 --> 01:14:16.400] Okay, we didn't reserve our rights then, but now we find there's a bit of collusion activity going on here, conspiracy. [01:14:16.400 --> 01:14:22.400] Well, we're reserving our rights now, and it's retro, back to that inception of the signature. [01:14:22.400 --> 01:14:24.400] I see what you were saying about a marriage license. [01:14:24.400 --> 01:14:31.400] I don't know if everybody's aware of this, but in Texas, you are not required to have a marriage license in order to be married. [01:14:31.400 --> 01:14:32.400] Common law, right. [01:14:32.400 --> 01:14:33.400] Common law? [01:14:33.400 --> 01:14:37.400] No, actually, you can go down and file your own license that's written, [01:14:37.400 --> 01:14:42.400] that's a written agreement between you and your partner and file that instead. [01:14:42.400 --> 01:14:44.400] Yes, it's called common law. [01:14:44.400 --> 01:14:47.400] It's the proper way to do it, but. [01:14:47.400 --> 01:14:51.400] Well, that's how they used to do it before 1933, Erie v. Conkins. [01:14:51.400 --> 01:14:58.400] I mean, I looked at some of the genealogical records on this date, such as such, you know, [01:14:58.400 --> 01:15:03.400] declare vows to each other as witnessed thereof by blah, blah, blah. [01:15:03.400 --> 01:15:06.400] That's what they did, and then they filed that in the county. [01:15:06.400 --> 01:15:11.400] Yeah, I actually told a couple of pastors, if you're going to marry me and this woman, [01:15:11.400 --> 01:15:16.400] why are you saying by the power invested in me by the state of something or other? [01:15:16.400 --> 01:15:19.400] I'm not asking the state to marry me. [01:15:19.400 --> 01:15:20.400] That's exactly right. [01:15:20.400 --> 01:15:25.400] Well, and the deal with that, too, is, okay, so that's not statutory then at that moment, [01:15:25.400 --> 01:15:34.400] but then you can turn around and get whoever you are with in this contract can file statutorily then to divorce you. [01:15:34.400 --> 01:15:41.400] So, I mean, even though you've engaged in a contract that wasn't bonded, as in for marriage, [01:15:41.400 --> 01:15:56.400] then they can go ahead and engage you, excuse me, in a cause to divorce, which would then be state obligated. [01:15:56.400 --> 01:15:57.400] Correct. [01:15:57.400 --> 01:15:58.400] Hey, Steve. [01:15:58.400 --> 01:15:59.400] Hello. [01:15:59.400 --> 01:16:04.400] Now, how does your blue ink signature appear on papers that you sign when you're signing it? [01:16:04.400 --> 01:16:06.400] My name and then all rights reserved. [01:16:06.400 --> 01:16:07.400] But how does your name appear? [01:16:07.400 --> 01:16:14.400] It's sometimes at arm's length or I guess it's, you know, if I really want to, if I really just one of those days, [01:16:14.400 --> 01:16:23.400] you know, with a gun in my hand or whatever, you know, it depends on the moment, but usually it's all rights reserved. [01:16:23.400 --> 01:16:26.400] But is there any particular way that the penmanship is on the paper? [01:16:26.400 --> 01:16:29.400] Do you use it? [01:16:29.400 --> 01:16:30.400] Yes, I see what you're saying. [01:16:30.400 --> 01:16:31.400] Bankers ink. [01:16:31.400 --> 01:16:32.400] Yeah. [01:16:32.400 --> 01:16:33.400] No, no, no. [01:16:33.400 --> 01:16:35.400] It's all cast or is it script? [01:16:35.400 --> 01:16:38.400] No, script, upper, lower. [01:16:38.400 --> 01:16:39.400] Because maybe that's... [01:16:39.400 --> 01:16:43.400] Yeah, I do not use their contrived version of my name because it is my name. [01:16:43.400 --> 01:16:44.400] They just contrived. [01:16:44.400 --> 01:16:47.400] It's just like artwork, you know, and we have music. [01:16:47.400 --> 01:16:48.400] Okay, listen, listen. [01:16:48.400 --> 01:16:49.400] We're going to break. [01:16:49.400 --> 01:16:50.400] We're going to break. 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[01:19:16.400 --> 01:19:17.400] Hi, Eddie. [01:19:17.400 --> 01:19:19.400] How are you, Randy? [01:19:19.400 --> 01:19:20.400] How are you doing tonight? [01:19:20.400 --> 01:19:21.400] Good, good. [01:19:21.400 --> 01:19:24.400] How are you doing with that fourth fee the other night? [01:19:24.400 --> 01:19:25.400] Good. [01:19:25.400 --> 01:19:27.400] So what is your question for C? [01:19:27.400 --> 01:19:36.400] Well, Randy had asked her a question on how do we get into these contracts. [01:19:36.400 --> 01:19:46.400] And UCC 2-206 states that conduct by both parties that recognizes the existence of a [01:19:46.400 --> 01:19:50.400] contract is sufficient to establish a contract for sale, even though the writings of the [01:19:50.400 --> 01:19:54.400] parties do not otherwise establish a contract. [01:19:54.400 --> 01:19:58.400] And then really we have silence as acceptance. [01:19:58.400 --> 01:20:05.400] It really is a general rule that silence of a person does not constitute acceptance. [01:20:05.400 --> 01:20:11.400] But there is an exception to that rule, and an exception to the rule is that there are [01:20:11.400 --> 01:20:16.400] a number of exceptions to the general rule where the person is not involuntarily put [01:20:16.400 --> 01:20:23.400] into a situation where the person must either take an affirmative action or reject the offer [01:20:23.400 --> 01:20:27.400] or else become liable on the contract. [01:20:27.400 --> 01:20:37.400] Well, isn't that where the person initiates a proactive action that affects the secondary party? [01:20:37.400 --> 01:20:39.400] RPOA breaking the presumption. [01:20:39.400 --> 01:20:46.400] So this is not exactly unilateral, for instance in Wendy's case. [01:20:46.400 --> 01:20:53.400] Wendy just didn't go out and start filing notices to people of harm. [01:20:53.400 --> 01:21:01.400] She filed notices to people of harm who had done something to her without her instigating it, [01:21:01.400 --> 01:21:05.400] without her trying to contract with them. [01:21:05.400 --> 01:21:14.400] And then she noticed them that what you did adversely affected me and you harmed me, [01:21:14.400 --> 01:21:17.400] and this was simply essentially a port letter. [01:21:17.400 --> 01:21:18.400] And that I understand. [01:21:18.400 --> 01:21:24.400] We had people here in Austin who were just sending out letters to people, to officials, [01:21:24.400 --> 01:21:30.400] claiming that if you don't respond within a certain time, you owe us a certain amount of money. [01:21:30.400 --> 01:21:32.400] And I had a serious question about that. [01:21:32.400 --> 01:21:36.400] Well, how do you unilaterally engage someone in a contract? [01:21:36.400 --> 01:21:37.400] Well, you don't. [01:21:37.400 --> 01:21:42.400] I mean, they would have had to actually do something in order for you to have a claim, [01:21:42.400 --> 01:21:44.400] a legitimate claim against them. [01:21:44.400 --> 01:21:45.400] Right. [01:21:45.400 --> 01:21:48.400] But you'd asked her, you know, how did we get into these contracts of adhesion [01:21:48.400 --> 01:21:51.400] or by these invisible contracts supposedly? [01:21:51.400 --> 01:21:53.400] Yes, that was exactly the point. [01:21:53.400 --> 01:21:57.400] What am I doing that engages me? [01:21:57.400 --> 01:21:59.400] Well, you're acting like a debtor for a while. [01:21:59.400 --> 01:22:01.400] I mean, you're not breaking the presumption. [01:22:01.400 --> 01:22:04.400] You're not making your statements. [01:22:04.400 --> 01:22:05.400] No, no, no, wait, wait. [01:22:05.400 --> 01:22:08.400] You're talking about how I'm doing what I'm doing. [01:22:08.400 --> 01:22:12.400] I'm not talking about how I'm doing it, but what? [01:22:12.400 --> 01:22:14.400] When I get up in the morning and brush my teeth? [01:22:14.400 --> 01:22:16.400] What are you doing to engage in the contracts? [01:22:16.400 --> 01:22:22.400] They'll say, so okay, so contracts specifically then, or specific contracts rather. [01:22:22.400 --> 01:22:23.400] Is that what you're saying? [01:22:23.400 --> 01:22:24.400] Yes. [01:22:24.400 --> 01:22:27.400] I mean, you could do that with your public utilities. [01:22:27.400 --> 01:22:34.400] Well, you were probably asking, how does silence get me into a contract? [01:22:34.400 --> 01:22:38.400] Well, silence will constitute acceptance where the offeree, [01:22:38.400 --> 01:22:41.400] by their own prior words or conduct, [01:22:41.400 --> 01:22:47.400] gave the offeror reason to interpret their silence as acceptance. [01:22:47.400 --> 01:22:50.400] Now, that's Hobbs v. Masonite Whip Company. [01:22:50.400 --> 01:22:52.400] It's an old case, 1893, [01:22:52.400 --> 01:23:00.400] and also National Union Fire Insurance Company v. Elric, 1924 case. [01:23:00.400 --> 01:23:05.400] And it follows that silence coupled with subjective intent to acceptance, [01:23:05.400 --> 01:23:07.400] where silence will constitute acceptance, [01:23:07.400 --> 01:23:11.400] where the offeree has said that silence will constitute acceptance, [01:23:11.400 --> 01:23:14.400] and the offeree remains silent. [01:23:14.400 --> 01:23:22.400] Yes. [01:23:22.400 --> 01:23:31.400] And how do I put myself in those positions to be subjected to an adhesion contract? [01:23:31.400 --> 01:23:36.400] And you're born in the United States or anywhere on this planet, really? [01:23:36.400 --> 01:23:39.400] That's what I was getting at. [01:23:39.400 --> 01:23:42.400] Everybody got speakers on? [01:23:42.400 --> 01:23:43.400] This is how it happens. [01:23:43.400 --> 01:23:45.400] Pay attention to this. [01:23:45.400 --> 01:23:46.400] This is an example right now. [01:23:46.400 --> 01:23:51.400] On January 2nd, seller writes to the buyer and says, quote, [01:23:51.400 --> 01:23:57.400] I will send you lithographs by messenger from time to time with a stated price, [01:23:57.400 --> 01:24:00.400] and if I do not hear from you within five days, [01:24:00.400 --> 01:24:05.400] I will give you the lithographs accepted at that price, unquote. [01:24:05.400 --> 01:24:07.400] Then the buyer does not reply. [01:24:07.400 --> 01:24:13.400] And on February 1st, almost a month later, seller sends buyers some lithographs [01:24:13.400 --> 01:24:16.400] by messenger with a stated price of $300, [01:24:16.400 --> 01:24:19.400] and buyer inspects the lithographs in forms of subjective intent [01:24:19.400 --> 01:24:24.400] to the acceptor's seller offer in accordance with the seller's letter on January 2nd. [01:24:24.400 --> 01:24:29.400] Then buyer's subjective intent constitutes acceptance of seller's offer, [01:24:29.400 --> 01:24:34.400] and the buyer is contractually bound to pay the seller the stated price. [01:24:34.400 --> 01:24:37.400] And in that case, then you go proactive, [01:24:37.400 --> 01:24:41.400] and then you have to tell them to cease and desist initially from the get-go. [01:24:41.400 --> 01:24:47.400] Look, I don't want anything to do with you now or in the future as a result, [01:24:47.400 --> 01:24:50.400] or not even as a result, proactively. [01:24:50.400 --> 01:24:51.400] You know, okay, you sent me this. [01:24:51.400 --> 01:24:52.400] That's fine. [01:24:52.400 --> 01:24:56.400] Do not ever send me any further notice regarding anything in the future. [01:24:56.400 --> 01:24:58.400] Cease and desist. [01:24:58.400 --> 01:25:01.400] But are you holding it? [01:25:01.400 --> 01:25:02.400] Holding what? [01:25:02.400 --> 01:25:05.400] The buyer had not informed the subjective intent to acceptance. [01:25:05.400 --> 01:25:07.400] She would not have been bound, [01:25:07.400 --> 01:25:12.400] provided she did not exercise dominion over the lithography. [01:25:12.400 --> 01:25:18.400] So whoever the recipient was, was contacted directly. [01:25:18.400 --> 01:25:23.400] Yes, in other words, in possession, as holder, you are liable. [01:25:23.400 --> 01:25:26.400] And there are ways to give you possession that I transfer to you [01:25:26.400 --> 01:25:30.400] under negotiable instruments law that can't get out of not holding [01:25:30.400 --> 01:25:32.400] and having possession. [01:25:32.400 --> 01:25:34.400] Either written or expressly implied, yes. [01:25:34.400 --> 01:25:37.400] Right. [01:25:37.400 --> 01:25:40.400] So that's kind of what I'm going to, [01:25:40.400 --> 01:25:43.400] is you wind up in these contracts you weren't aware of, [01:25:43.400 --> 01:25:47.400] and that kind of contract we all tend to understand [01:25:47.400 --> 01:25:51.400] is when somebody sends us correspondence. [01:25:51.400 --> 01:25:52.400] When I get correspondence, [01:25:52.400 --> 01:25:57.400] I'll always assume I'm trying to be snookered into a contract. [01:25:57.400 --> 01:26:01.400] But what I'm looking at is how the courts do it to me, [01:26:01.400 --> 01:26:06.400] specifically how they get me there so I know clearly. [01:26:06.400 --> 01:26:08.400] Well, doesn't the judge have an information on you? [01:26:08.400 --> 01:26:09.400] He pulls your record, [01:26:09.400 --> 01:26:11.400] and he sees that you've got a Social Security card, [01:26:11.400 --> 01:26:13.400] you've got a driver's license. [01:26:13.400 --> 01:26:18.400] Yes, the public side of your corporate entity, [01:26:18.400 --> 01:26:20.400] where you're no longer a private citizen, [01:26:20.400 --> 01:26:25.400] but you're a corporate agent thereof. [01:26:25.400 --> 01:26:28.400] That's where I've been trying to get everybody to go. [01:26:28.400 --> 01:26:29.400] That's the public side. [01:26:29.400 --> 01:26:30.400] You have the private citizen, [01:26:30.400 --> 01:26:36.400] and then you have the corporate entity, which is ascribed to you. [01:26:36.400 --> 01:26:41.400] So this is what everybody means when they talk about the straw man. [01:26:41.400 --> 01:26:44.400] The straw man's not a very good metaphor. [01:26:44.400 --> 01:26:50.400] It's not like there's a separate entity over there. [01:26:50.400 --> 01:26:55.400] There's you moving around, having experience in the culture. [01:26:55.400 --> 01:27:02.400] Sometimes you are in a situation where you're moving in and out of contract, [01:27:02.400 --> 01:27:05.400] and in those cases, you're not in the private side, [01:27:05.400 --> 01:27:07.400] but you're in the public side. [01:27:07.400 --> 01:27:17.400] And these revocation of power of attorney would tend to act as notice [01:27:17.400 --> 01:27:23.400] of your intent to non-participation in these adhesion contracts. [01:27:23.400 --> 01:27:25.400] Is that accurately stated? [01:27:25.400 --> 01:27:28.400] That is accurately stated, yes. [01:27:28.400 --> 01:27:35.400] It also predisposes your position that you are a private citizen as well. [01:27:35.400 --> 01:27:39.400] I mean, especially the way this particular revocation is drawn up, [01:27:39.400 --> 01:27:44.400] which states you are a natural man or a woman. [01:27:44.400 --> 01:27:47.400] Well, in this case, I drew it up as natural woman. [01:27:47.400 --> 01:27:50.400] But the presumption then that you are a corporate entity [01:27:50.400 --> 01:27:56.400] or that you ascribe to allowing yourself to be looked upon [01:27:56.400 --> 01:28:02.400] or engaged as a corporate entity, then that presumption is broken. [01:28:02.400 --> 01:28:06.400] So it's kind of similar to finding the UCC-1 documents. [01:28:06.400 --> 01:28:07.400] It's my understanding... [01:28:07.400 --> 01:28:11.400] It really is, because the UCC is at the state level, [01:28:11.400 --> 01:28:14.400] where this RPOA is at the county level. [01:28:14.400 --> 01:28:16.400] And these UCCs I've seen filing... [01:28:16.400 --> 01:28:18.400] I've filed, rather, you know, if... [01:28:18.400 --> 01:28:21.400] Okay, first of all, if it's not a transmitting utility, [01:28:21.400 --> 01:28:23.400] if it's not in your state, [01:28:23.400 --> 01:28:28.400] and if it's not against their corporate-contrived version of you, [01:28:28.400 --> 01:28:30.400] it's not a UCC, as far as I'm concerned. [01:28:30.400 --> 01:28:31.400] It just doesn't work. [01:28:31.400 --> 01:28:34.400] The UCC, from my understanding, the way it works is [01:28:34.400 --> 01:28:37.400] if they file a contract against you, [01:28:37.400 --> 01:28:40.400] and of course, that attaches directly to the status records, [01:28:40.400 --> 01:28:43.400] to the nationwide and the statewide database, [01:28:43.400 --> 01:28:46.400] if they attach a contract to you or file a warrant bond, whatever, [01:28:46.400 --> 01:28:48.400] they automatically get the tax bill. [01:28:48.400 --> 01:28:51.400] It goes into their personal accounts and empties it [01:28:51.400 --> 01:28:56.400] to fund those bonds or warrants that they try to attach to you. [01:28:56.400 --> 01:28:57.400] That's the UCC. [01:28:57.400 --> 01:29:00.400] It's all automated, you know? [01:29:00.400 --> 01:29:01.400] So I see... [01:29:01.400 --> 01:29:02.400] Well, I saw my UCC. [01:29:02.400 --> 01:29:03.400] Well, okay, fine. [01:29:03.400 --> 01:29:05.400] Did they boot you out of jail after 72 hours? [01:29:05.400 --> 01:29:06.400] No. [01:29:06.400 --> 01:29:07.400] Well, then your UCC didn't work. [01:29:07.400 --> 01:29:08.400] It's faulty. [01:29:08.400 --> 01:29:11.400] There's something wrong with it. [01:29:11.400 --> 01:29:13.400] Just as far as I'm concerned, the UCCs are wannabes [01:29:13.400 --> 01:29:17.400] if they're not booting you out of jail before 72 hours are up. [01:29:17.400 --> 01:29:20.400] Yeah, you certainly have to file it correctly. [01:29:20.400 --> 01:29:21.400] I mean, but... [01:29:21.400 --> 01:29:22.400] And they have to be transmitting utility, [01:29:22.400 --> 01:29:24.400] and nine times out of ten they don't. [01:29:24.400 --> 01:29:25.400] Right. [01:29:25.400 --> 01:29:28.400] Of course, your statutory presence has something to do with that. [01:29:28.400 --> 01:29:30.400] They refuse to file that. [01:29:30.400 --> 01:29:31.400] But I got... [01:29:31.400 --> 01:29:34.400] Now, the Secretary of State for the State of Texas, [01:29:34.400 --> 01:29:37.400] I have railed on that woman left and right. [01:29:37.400 --> 01:29:39.400] I finally got back... [01:29:39.400 --> 01:29:41.400] I even filed something in a court case [01:29:41.400 --> 01:29:45.400] where I was just going to criminal complaint everything in the common law. [01:29:45.400 --> 01:29:46.400] All right, well, wait. [01:29:46.400 --> 01:29:47.400] Hold on, hold on. 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[01:30:52.400 --> 01:30:59.400] We are Roberts & Roberts Brokerage, 800-874-9760. [01:31:22.400 --> 01:31:24.400] Thank you. [01:31:52.400 --> 01:31:55.400] Okay, we are back. [01:31:55.400 --> 01:32:00.400] The rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig. [01:32:00.400 --> 01:32:03.400] We're here with C. [01:32:03.400 --> 01:32:08.400] Okay, and yes, we're discussing on the break about the UCC-1 filings, [01:32:08.400 --> 01:32:14.400] and it's a straw man, whatever you want to call it, absolutely a straw man. [01:32:14.400 --> 01:32:16.400] It's a straw man. [01:32:16.400 --> 01:32:22.400] It has to be, or else your UCC-1 form gets rejected, [01:32:22.400 --> 01:32:27.400] because you can't have the debtor and the secured party be the same entity. [01:32:27.400 --> 01:32:30.400] That's one reason why people's forms are getting rejected, [01:32:30.400 --> 01:32:32.400] because they're not filing them properly. [01:32:32.400 --> 01:32:34.400] They're not setting it up correctly, [01:32:34.400 --> 01:32:39.400] because you are making a very firm distinction between yourself as a human being, [01:32:39.400 --> 01:32:42.400] as a natural soul, as a human being, [01:32:42.400 --> 01:32:47.400] you're making a firm distinction between yourself as a human being, as a natural soul, [01:32:47.400 --> 01:32:50.400] as a living, breathing, human person. [01:32:50.400 --> 01:32:53.400] You know, I don't even want to use the word person, a living soul. [01:32:53.400 --> 01:32:59.400] The difference between that and this trust that's set up as a legal fictional entity [01:32:59.400 --> 01:33:02.400] that would be the debtor and yourself as a living soul as the creditor. [01:33:02.400 --> 01:33:06.400] So they absolutely are two completely separate different things. [01:33:06.400 --> 01:33:11.400] They have to be, because all laws apply to commercial entities anyway. [01:33:11.400 --> 01:33:14.400] So it's not just you, yourself, and sort of... [01:33:14.400 --> 01:33:16.400] Say that again. [01:33:16.400 --> 01:33:21.400] They also have your consent to refuse your filing with the power of attorney. [01:33:21.400 --> 01:33:24.400] I mean, there's all kinds of laws involved here. [01:33:24.400 --> 01:33:26.400] We're talking about probate, trust, commercial. [01:33:26.400 --> 01:33:29.400] It's all compilatory. [01:33:29.400 --> 01:33:33.400] I mean, each one is a subset thereof. [01:33:33.400 --> 01:33:38.400] I mean, through the state contracts, I mean, some UCC filings, [01:33:38.400 --> 01:33:43.400] I would imagine some have to be lawful, but they had your consent to refuse your filing also [01:33:43.400 --> 01:33:46.400] by virtue of your power of attorney with a state contract as well. [01:33:46.400 --> 01:33:54.400] Even if your UCC filing is correct, obviously they don't want you to have that remedy. [01:33:54.400 --> 01:34:00.400] Through the power of attorney given to them by you, then they can reject that as well. [01:34:00.400 --> 01:34:02.400] That's just another remedy for them. [01:34:02.400 --> 01:34:03.400] Right. [01:34:03.400 --> 01:34:04.400] All right. [01:34:04.400 --> 01:34:05.400] Let's move on to some more callers. [01:34:05.400 --> 01:34:08.400] Christian, you're welcome to hang on the line. [01:34:08.400 --> 01:34:11.400] We'll try to get back to you, but we do have a lot of callers I want to get to before the end of the show. [01:34:11.400 --> 01:34:12.400] Oh, something else I want to add. [01:34:12.400 --> 01:34:15.400] Randy, I got this notice back from the Secretary of State. [01:34:15.400 --> 01:34:17.400] I want to send it to you, and I want you to... [01:34:17.400 --> 01:34:19.400] I'd like you to pick it apart and see what you... [01:34:19.400 --> 01:34:21.400] And Deborah, you too, as well. [01:34:21.400 --> 01:34:22.400] Yes, send it to me. [01:34:22.400 --> 01:34:23.400] Yeah. [01:34:23.400 --> 01:34:24.400] Pick it apart and see... [01:34:24.400 --> 01:34:26.400] Because she gave me remedy. [01:34:26.400 --> 01:34:29.400] She told me, basically, how to follow the darn thing. [01:34:29.400 --> 01:34:31.400] It's all lined out right there. [01:34:31.400 --> 01:34:33.400] You know, and I just haven't gotten back into it. [01:34:33.400 --> 01:34:37.400] But I would like to pick it apart to see what exactly it is. [01:34:37.400 --> 01:34:38.400] All right. [01:34:38.400 --> 01:34:39.400] Excellent. [01:34:39.400 --> 01:34:40.400] All right. [01:34:40.400 --> 01:34:41.400] Let's go now to Rick in California. [01:34:41.400 --> 01:34:43.400] Rick, thanks for calling in. [01:34:43.400 --> 01:34:45.400] What is your question for our guest seat? [01:34:45.400 --> 01:34:46.400] How's it going? [01:34:46.400 --> 01:34:53.400] I wanted to ask, how is it that one can start getting into finding out about bonds? [01:34:53.400 --> 01:35:00.400] Because every time I hear someone going after someone's bond or putting a lien, they end up in jail somehow. [01:35:00.400 --> 01:35:06.400] And it seems that you and, I guess, Wendy are the only ones that I've heard about that haven't been in jail for doing that. [01:35:06.400 --> 01:35:08.400] So do you have... [01:35:08.400 --> 01:35:11.400] Can you tell us, novice people, you know, how we can start by going and doing that? [01:35:11.400 --> 01:35:15.400] Well, if you're speaking to me, I mean, the revocation of power of attorney... [01:35:15.400 --> 01:35:17.400] The bonds already fall in the case anyway. [01:35:17.400 --> 01:35:19.400] You issued this revocation of power of attorney. [01:35:19.400 --> 01:35:20.400] They just took the bonds. [01:35:20.400 --> 01:35:22.400] They just accepted responsibility for them. [01:35:22.400 --> 01:35:23.400] Where did we get that file? [01:35:23.400 --> 01:35:24.400] I'm sorry? [01:35:24.400 --> 01:35:25.400] Is there a certain file for it? [01:35:25.400 --> 01:35:32.400] Is there a certain file we need to look for that in every state or is that just like a...can there be like a sample? [01:35:32.400 --> 01:35:36.400] No, this revocation of power of attorney that I'm speaking of is a form that I drafted. [01:35:36.400 --> 01:35:41.400] And I gave it to Deborah and Randy, too, if they want to make it public by all means. [01:35:41.400 --> 01:35:43.400] It's for remedy all around. [01:35:43.400 --> 01:35:44.400] Everybody can have it. [01:35:44.400 --> 01:35:48.400] Freely use it liberally to your benefit. [01:35:48.400 --> 01:35:49.400] Okay. [01:35:49.400 --> 01:35:54.400] And Randy and Deb, are you guys going to put that up sometime or I don't know if you guys... [01:35:54.400 --> 01:36:02.400] On jurisprudence, I will put a C folder under blanks and documents and I'll drop it in that folder. [01:36:02.400 --> 01:36:03.400] Okay. [01:36:03.400 --> 01:36:10.400] So like for a situation of a traffic ticket, where would Rick file his revocation of power of attorney? [01:36:10.400 --> 01:36:17.400] Directly into that case with the clerk of the court and then notice the judge and then notice all the gun agencies associated. [01:36:17.400 --> 01:36:27.400] If it's for justice of the peace, then with the constable, if it's in the city, then with the chief of police, but always the sheriff, always, [01:36:27.400 --> 01:36:33.400] because the sheriff is primary source here as far as the gun agencies are concerned. [01:36:33.400 --> 01:36:34.400] Excellent. [01:36:34.400 --> 01:36:34.400] Okay. [01:36:34.400 --> 01:36:35.400] That's awesome. [01:36:35.400 --> 01:36:36.400] That's awesome. [01:36:36.400 --> 01:36:37.400] Okay. [01:36:37.400 --> 01:36:38.400] And I want to thank you for that and I want to... [01:36:38.400 --> 01:36:39.400] I would not stop there, though. [01:36:39.400 --> 01:36:46.400] I'm telling you, this...see, it's...okay, that stops the ticket right there, sure, but the bonds are still existing. [01:36:46.400 --> 01:36:52.400] I mean, if you want to become completely a private...not a private citizen. [01:36:52.400 --> 01:37:00.400] If you want to completely assert your rights, because you're still contracted, I'm not revoking the...I have a passport. [01:37:00.400 --> 01:37:01.400] I have my Social Security card. [01:37:01.400 --> 01:37:02.400] I have my birth certificate. [01:37:02.400 --> 01:37:03.400] I'm not revoking that. [01:37:03.400 --> 01:37:04.400] I'm not revoking the signatures on that. [01:37:04.400 --> 01:37:06.400] I'm not redacting, in other words. [01:37:06.400 --> 01:37:15.400] I've still got those contracts, but I'm revoking all contingent contracts based on my signatures with those. [01:37:15.400 --> 01:37:17.400] So, I mean, I was followed up the line. [01:37:17.400 --> 01:37:33.400] I follow it with the county treasurer, with the auditor, with the state comptroller, with...I might even send a district attorney, the attorney general, the DTC, the SEC, the Treasury, the IRS. [01:37:33.400 --> 01:37:38.400] Just go up the line, because that revocation of power of attorney is for all contracts. [01:37:38.400 --> 01:37:39.400] That's the beauty of it. [01:37:39.400 --> 01:37:44.400] It's preventative for any future situations as well. [01:37:44.400 --> 01:37:45.400] Okay. [01:37:45.400 --> 01:37:46.400] And I was going to ask another thing. [01:37:46.400 --> 01:37:48.400] Do you know Jack Smith? [01:37:48.400 --> 01:37:50.400] Because you talk...things you say remind you of him. [01:37:50.400 --> 01:37:51.400] Oh, yeah. [01:37:51.400 --> 01:37:52.400] Yeah. [01:37:52.400 --> 01:37:53.400] Yeah. [01:37:53.400 --> 01:37:56.400] I like a lot of what Jack Smith has to say. [01:37:56.400 --> 01:37:57.400] He's predominantly statutory. [01:37:57.400 --> 01:38:00.400] He's really versed in that. [01:38:00.400 --> 01:38:11.400] But he comes off as...he's very careful not to put anything out that he hasn't somehow tested. [01:38:11.400 --> 01:38:12.400] And I like that. [01:38:12.400 --> 01:38:13.400] I appreciate that. [01:38:13.400 --> 01:38:15.400] Right, because he talks about the private and public side as well. [01:38:15.400 --> 01:38:18.400] So I want to thank you guys, and I'll let you guys get on to the next caller. [01:38:18.400 --> 01:38:19.400] All right. [01:38:19.400 --> 01:38:20.400] Thanks, Rick. [01:38:20.400 --> 01:38:21.400] Okay. [01:38:21.400 --> 01:38:37.400] So before I take the next caller, I wanted to ask Cecil, if somebody had, you know, accurately, correctly filed their UCC-1 documents and all the amendments and all that thing, how would they use that in conjunction with your revocation of power of attorney? [01:38:37.400 --> 01:38:38.400] They wouldn't need to. [01:38:38.400 --> 01:38:39.400] Well, I mean, they would. [01:38:39.400 --> 01:38:43.400] The revocation of power of attorney would just be a tandem filing, really. [01:38:43.400 --> 01:38:51.400] But the UCC thereafter, I mean, that's a statewide notice, whereas the revocation of power of attorney begins in the county. [01:38:51.400 --> 01:38:56.400] And, of course, you have to do all the footwork for that to send it up the line to all the alphabetters, if you will. [01:38:56.400 --> 01:38:57.400] I see. [01:38:57.400 --> 01:38:58.400] But we're at the state level. [01:38:58.400 --> 01:39:01.400] That automatically puts everybody on notice. [01:39:01.400 --> 01:39:03.400] And through their databases as well. [01:39:03.400 --> 01:39:05.400] They've got a situs database. [01:39:05.400 --> 01:39:06.400] I mean, that's for all property. [01:39:06.400 --> 01:39:08.400] That's for all contracts. [01:39:08.400 --> 01:39:10.400] That's for access for debt, et cetera. [01:39:10.400 --> 01:39:29.400] I mean, the UCC, it's noticed out there way in the public for all federal and state agencies that you are grounded in your private citizenship and that any contracts against you automatically becomes your property possession. [01:39:29.400 --> 01:39:32.400] And they become the debtor then as a result of that. [01:39:32.400 --> 01:39:33.400] They assign themselves. [01:39:33.400 --> 01:39:36.400] So, hey, they just accept their big fat bill for it. [01:39:36.400 --> 01:39:37.400] All right. [01:39:37.400 --> 01:39:38.400] Excellent. [01:39:38.400 --> 01:39:39.400] Okay. [01:39:39.400 --> 01:39:40.400] Let's move on to some other callers here. [01:39:40.400 --> 01:39:44.400] We've got Michael from Texas. [01:39:44.400 --> 01:39:45.400] Hi, guys. [01:39:45.400 --> 01:39:46.400] Hi, Randy. [01:39:46.400 --> 01:39:47.400] Hi, Deborah. [01:39:47.400 --> 01:39:48.400] Hi, Eddie. [01:39:48.400 --> 01:39:50.400] See, it's been great listening to you. [01:39:50.400 --> 01:39:51.400] I have a really simple question. [01:39:51.400 --> 01:39:58.400] When can we get you out to Austin to do a two-and-a-half-day seminar where we can fly you out here and pay you to hear you talk? [01:39:58.400 --> 01:40:00.400] You sound very well organized and very on point. [01:40:00.400 --> 01:40:02.400] And you're making a lot of sense. [01:40:02.400 --> 01:40:08.400] So if that's at all possible, I'd like to hear a discussion about how we can make that happen [01:40:08.400 --> 01:40:10.400] because we really need you here in Austin. [01:40:10.400 --> 01:40:14.400] We need to get our keys into your process. [01:40:14.400 --> 01:40:22.400] Or if you have any websites or a book or any DVDs, anything where we can get you a loan for a large amount of time [01:40:22.400 --> 01:40:30.400] and where we can study your method and get your references and get your documents and how we can initiate them in the process. [01:40:30.400 --> 01:40:31.400] So that's it. [01:40:31.400 --> 01:40:32.400] Thank you for your time. [01:40:32.400 --> 01:40:33.400] Well, everything I put out, I put out for free. [01:40:33.400 --> 01:40:36.400] I don't charge. [01:40:36.400 --> 01:40:41.400] I mean, I know a lot of these guys get out there and do their seminars and all that. [01:40:41.400 --> 01:40:50.400] The reason I haven't gone into doing seminars as such is that, well, you're obligating yourself in to help people [01:40:50.400 --> 01:40:54.400] when you accept any money from them as a result of that. [01:40:54.400 --> 01:40:58.400] And I just put my documents out freely, take them, use them, do what you want with them. [01:40:58.400 --> 01:40:59.400] There's no copyrighted on them. [01:40:59.400 --> 01:41:03.400] Is there a site where they're consolidated and easily accessible? [01:41:03.400 --> 01:41:07.400] I put a lot of files on a redemption by method group in Yahoo. [01:41:07.400 --> 01:41:09.400] There's a lot out there. [01:41:09.400 --> 01:41:20.400] And I think the list owner, and I guess I can go ahead and, well, I don't know if he appreciates me saying his name or not, [01:41:20.400 --> 01:41:27.400] but he might be putting these in a tangent area, but of course he announces that. [01:41:27.400 --> 01:41:29.400] I'm not really good about that. [01:41:29.400 --> 01:41:34.400] So, you know, I mean, if these are spread out in different areas, that's fine with me. [01:41:34.400 --> 01:41:36.400] Take them, use them liberally. [01:41:36.400 --> 01:41:39.400] Here's the deal with this is that there's safety in numbers. [01:41:39.400 --> 01:41:45.400] The more that people file these remedies, items of remedy, if you will, [01:41:45.400 --> 01:41:50.400] the more that we become the nation that we ascribe to be originally, you know, [01:41:50.400 --> 01:41:56.400] the more that we regain our self-respect, our pride, you know. [01:41:56.400 --> 01:42:04.400] If you will send those documents to me, I'll post them on jurisprudence in the C directory. [01:42:04.400 --> 01:42:06.400] Will do. [01:42:06.400 --> 01:42:09.400] Then anybody can download them from anywhere. [01:42:09.400 --> 01:42:13.400] I'd be glad to. [01:42:13.400 --> 01:42:14.400] Great. [01:42:14.400 --> 01:42:16.400] I appreciate your time and thank you. [01:42:16.400 --> 01:42:17.400] All right. [01:42:17.400 --> 01:42:18.400] Thank you, Michael. [01:42:18.400 --> 01:42:19.400] Okay. [01:42:19.400 --> 01:42:22.400] We're going to go now to George in Texas. [01:42:22.400 --> 01:42:23.400] George, thanks for calling in. [01:42:23.400 --> 01:42:24.400] What's on your mind tonight? [01:42:24.400 --> 01:42:26.400] Hey, how you doing? [01:42:26.400 --> 01:42:27.400] Can you hear me? [01:42:27.400 --> 01:42:28.400] Yes, go ahead. [01:42:28.400 --> 01:42:30.400] What's your question for our guest? [01:42:30.400 --> 01:42:31.400] Yes. [01:42:31.400 --> 01:42:33.400] You know, the thing is, I get these bills in the mail. [01:42:33.400 --> 01:42:35.400] They got my corporate name on it. [01:42:35.400 --> 01:42:38.400] Is that considered mail fraud? [01:42:38.400 --> 01:42:39.400] Well, yeah. [01:42:39.400 --> 01:42:44.400] If you haven't, if you've broken a presumption, then yes, it is. [01:42:44.400 --> 01:42:51.400] But, I mean, otherwise, no, because you gave them consent to be able to do that with your original contract. [01:42:51.400 --> 01:42:56.400] Would it be fraud if they weren't aware, if you haven't noticed them? [01:42:56.400 --> 01:43:02.400] Well, yeah, but if you haven't called them on it, if you haven't noticed them in some way, shape, or form publicly, [01:43:02.400 --> 01:43:06.400] then it's not fraud because it's by cast of consent. [01:43:06.400 --> 01:43:08.400] Yes, so you'd have to- [01:43:08.400 --> 01:43:11.400] And HJR192 gave them that permission. [01:43:11.400 --> 01:43:12.400] Yeah. [01:43:12.400 --> 01:43:15.400] So I would have to tell them this is not my name? [01:43:15.400 --> 01:43:17.400] Right. [01:43:17.400 --> 01:43:23.400] Tell them you have it copyrighted, if you use it again, you agree to pay me this much money. [01:43:23.400 --> 01:43:25.400] Oh, wow. [01:43:25.400 --> 01:43:27.400] It creates a little adhesion contract. [01:43:27.400 --> 01:43:30.400] Well, tell them that their contracts are fraud also without full disclosure. [01:43:30.400 --> 01:43:36.400] They've taken your name and they've bonded it for their profit, and they're doing that fraudulently without full disclosure. [01:43:36.400 --> 01:43:38.400] Well, I'll tell you what, that works every time. [01:43:38.400 --> 01:43:40.400] Send them a notice to cease and desist. [01:43:40.400 --> 01:43:42.400] Oh, that works very nicely. [01:43:42.400 --> 01:43:50.400] And your notice to cease and desist, tell them, you know, by the way, you're bonding my signature without full disclosure. 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[01:45:06.400 --> 01:45:33.400] OK, we are back. [01:45:33.400 --> 01:45:40.400] Our final segment here on the rule of law and we are here with our guest C. [01:45:40.400 --> 01:45:42.400] George, do you have anything else? [01:45:42.400 --> 01:45:55.400] Yes, I would like to rescind my kids' Social Security cards because I know that is a contract and my kids are still a minor and they can't engage into a contract. [01:45:55.400 --> 01:46:14.400] You know, there's a situation with that that I'm rather unfamiliar but as far as doing that I haven't removed myself from my Social Security card or passport or birth certificate if you will. [01:46:14.400 --> 01:46:19.400] There's a gentleman by the name of Harper Van Dyke and he did this but he also took it a step further. [01:46:19.400 --> 01:46:26.400] It got a little bit greedy I think because he decided to take over the Social Security Trust and then start putting his own money. [01:46:26.400 --> 01:46:28.400] But the thing is he's in a redaction unit right now. [01:46:28.400 --> 01:46:32.400] He completely revoked his signature on all contracts. [01:46:32.400 --> 01:46:37.400] So I mean, I don't know, I'm still on the fence about that. [01:46:37.400 --> 01:46:44.400] I believe in if you're going to contract then take control of the contract because you still need to operate in commerce. [01:46:44.400 --> 01:46:50.400] I mean, any time you use a Federal Reserve note, I mean, that right there is statutory also. [01:46:50.400 --> 01:46:56.400] And the thing is that's what the trade is now is with Federal Reserve notes. [01:46:56.400 --> 01:46:58.400] So I'm... [01:46:58.400 --> 01:47:02.400] Yes, you know about some of these UCC... [01:47:02.400 --> 01:47:07.400] I had one guy sitting there go, for $1,000 do you give me your birth certificate or your Social Security card? [01:47:07.400 --> 01:47:13.400] We use the bankruptcy laws of 1933 to disbarry all your debts. [01:47:13.400 --> 01:47:14.400] Have you heard that? [01:47:14.400 --> 01:47:19.400] Well, it sounds like he's doing the exact same thing as far as revoking the power of attorney too. [01:47:19.400 --> 01:47:23.400] I would not be surprised if he put the affidavit of truth in there. [01:47:23.400 --> 01:47:25.400] But the thing is those affidavit of truth are four pages. [01:47:25.400 --> 01:47:29.400] You know, your eyes cross by the time you get to the last page. [01:47:29.400 --> 01:47:38.400] It's better you're just doing it in a one or two page declaration and just get to the point, you know, without the fluff. [01:47:38.400 --> 01:47:43.400] I think I'll get off the fly now. I'll wait until you post the documents on Randy's site and I'll... [01:47:43.400 --> 01:47:45.400] If I got any questions, I'll contact you. [01:47:45.400 --> 01:47:46.400] Yes, take a look at them. [01:47:46.400 --> 01:47:51.400] I mean, really read it, go over it, go over it once, go over it twice, go over it three times [01:47:51.400 --> 01:47:55.400] until it becomes solid in your mind the why, you know. [01:47:55.400 --> 01:47:59.400] And not only that, once you get out there and you start doing this, you see the results of it. [01:47:59.400 --> 01:48:08.400] And then it starts...the power of it. [01:48:08.400 --> 01:48:09.400] Well, you know... [01:48:09.400 --> 01:48:13.400] You realize it. It's realized. [01:48:13.400 --> 01:48:19.400] And you start to see the results of it and it makes a profound difference. [01:48:19.400 --> 01:48:24.400] Well, you know, the strange thing, I got my license renewed down at the DPS. [01:48:24.400 --> 01:48:28.400] I'd love to check, Mark, off one question. [01:48:28.400 --> 01:48:30.400] Are you a citizen of the United States? [01:48:30.400 --> 01:48:34.400] Which is what I left blank. [01:48:34.400 --> 01:48:36.400] And they didn't say nothing about it. [01:48:36.400 --> 01:48:38.400] They probably didn't notice it. [01:48:38.400 --> 01:48:39.400] We really need to move along. [01:48:39.400 --> 01:48:42.400] Yeah, we need to move on because we got a whole bunch of callers. [01:48:42.400 --> 01:48:43.400] All right, thank you. [01:48:43.400 --> 01:48:44.400] Okay, thanks, George. [01:48:44.400 --> 01:48:48.400] Okay, we're going to go now to Jeff in Michigan. [01:48:48.400 --> 01:48:49.400] Jeff, thanks for calling in. [01:48:49.400 --> 01:48:51.400] What's your question for our guest? [01:48:51.400 --> 01:48:52.400] Hey, Deborah, how are you doing? [01:48:52.400 --> 01:48:55.400] Steve, I need some advice from you. [01:48:55.400 --> 01:49:03.400] I have put together security agreements, a power of attorney, and a copyright. [01:49:03.400 --> 01:49:08.400] And I took it to the county and they refused to file them. [01:49:08.400 --> 01:49:10.400] Yeah. [01:49:10.400 --> 01:49:14.400] I took them to another county and they said they'd take them, [01:49:14.400 --> 01:49:18.400] but my property is not in their county so I can't do it there. [01:49:18.400 --> 01:49:21.400] And what I did is I put everything... [01:49:21.400 --> 01:49:24.400] But they wouldn't let you file in the adjacent county either? [01:49:24.400 --> 01:49:26.400] No. [01:49:26.400 --> 01:49:32.400] Well, go back to your county and get security, take security with you. [01:49:32.400 --> 01:49:34.400] Go up to them, hand them the documents, [01:49:34.400 --> 01:49:42.400] and when they refuse to file them, do what I did in Wise County. [01:49:42.400 --> 01:49:44.400] Kyle was the security officer. [01:49:44.400 --> 01:49:45.400] I knew him real well. [01:49:45.400 --> 01:49:50.400] And I knew the county attorney and county clerk real well too, Sherry Parker. [01:49:50.400 --> 01:49:53.400] I said, well, Kyle, arrest her. [01:49:53.400 --> 01:49:54.400] I said, well, I can't arrest her. [01:49:54.400 --> 01:49:55.400] She sure can. [01:49:55.400 --> 01:49:58.400] Just throw the cuffs on her and drag her off to jail. [01:49:58.400 --> 01:49:59.400] You haven't got far to go. [01:49:59.400 --> 01:50:01.400] There's a cut one right in the basement. [01:50:01.400 --> 01:50:03.400] Well, there is an easier way too. [01:50:03.400 --> 01:50:08.400] And I've discovered this purely by accident, but it sure does work. [01:50:08.400 --> 01:50:11.400] And this is for some cases I took on for other people. [01:50:11.400 --> 01:50:17.400] I mean, do you have a traffic ticket or an old case, anything like that? [01:50:17.400 --> 01:50:18.400] I don't know. [01:50:18.400 --> 01:50:20.400] Have you gotten a ticket in the last three or four years? [01:50:20.400 --> 01:50:23.400] I got a ticket just a couple months ago that the cop didn't sign it. [01:50:23.400 --> 01:50:27.400] I sent it in with an affidavit of truth, and they ignored all that. [01:50:27.400 --> 01:50:31.400] So I sent it in for avoidant judgment, a petition to avoid the judgment. [01:50:31.400 --> 01:50:36.400] The judge has now said, you've got to submit a motion or an appeal. [01:50:36.400 --> 01:50:39.400] So now I'm preparing a letter back to him to reconsider [01:50:39.400 --> 01:50:42.400] and citing the fact that it is a void and all this. [01:50:42.400 --> 01:50:43.400] What do you count on? [01:50:43.400 --> 01:50:46.400] You're coming right into that case. [01:50:46.400 --> 01:50:48.400] You don't have to go through the county clerk. [01:50:48.400 --> 01:50:50.400] It's in the county anyway. [01:50:50.400 --> 01:50:51.400] Just file it into that case. [01:50:51.400 --> 01:50:52.400] Use that case. [01:50:52.400 --> 01:50:53.400] It's your case. [01:50:53.400 --> 01:50:54.400] You're the principal. [01:50:54.400 --> 01:50:55.400] You own it. [01:50:55.400 --> 01:50:56.400] Use it. [01:50:56.400 --> 01:50:57.400] Good. [01:50:57.400 --> 01:50:59.400] So all I have to do is go get a parking ticket. [01:50:59.400 --> 01:51:01.400] You don't have to go to the county clerk and all the rejection and everything. [01:51:01.400 --> 01:51:02.400] You don't have to do that. [01:51:02.400 --> 01:51:04.400] These court cases are your property. [01:51:04.400 --> 01:51:06.400] Use it to your benefit then. [01:51:06.400 --> 01:51:09.400] File it into that case and then start noticing everybody. [01:51:09.400 --> 01:51:12.400] So you need a parking ticket. [01:51:12.400 --> 01:51:14.400] I beg your pardon? [01:51:14.400 --> 01:51:15.400] I'm sorry? [01:51:15.400 --> 01:51:16.400] A parking ticket. [01:51:16.400 --> 01:51:17.400] You get a parking ticket. [01:51:17.400 --> 01:51:18.400] You get a parking ticket. [01:51:18.400 --> 01:51:19.400] You can do it with a parking ticket. [01:51:19.400 --> 01:51:20.400] You can do it with anything. [01:51:20.400 --> 01:51:24.400] You can even borrow somebody's court case, have them give you a limited power of attorney [01:51:24.400 --> 01:51:27.400] and file all your docs into there. [01:51:27.400 --> 01:51:28.400] It'll work. [01:51:28.400 --> 01:51:31.400] Could I just put my power of attorney copyright papers, [01:51:31.400 --> 01:51:36.400] copies of those in with the letter to the judge to the petition to void? [01:51:36.400 --> 01:51:39.400] Put it in his exhibit. [01:51:39.400 --> 01:51:40.400] Put it in his exhibit. [01:51:40.400 --> 01:51:41.400] Well, that's statutory. [01:51:41.400 --> 01:51:42.400] You don't have to put it. [01:51:42.400 --> 01:51:49.400] Well, you would notice the judge separately and directly, obviously, [01:51:49.400 --> 01:51:53.400] and then of course you would notice the clerk for entry into the record. [01:51:53.400 --> 01:51:58.400] And then you would notice the gun agencies, which to me is imperative. [01:51:58.400 --> 01:52:01.400] You need to do that regardless. [01:52:01.400 --> 01:52:04.400] I like that term, gun agencies. [01:52:04.400 --> 01:52:09.400] I didn't know that you should submit copies to all these different places. [01:52:09.400 --> 01:52:12.400] Well, you see that's a strength in there, a lot of people don't. [01:52:12.400 --> 01:52:14.400] Proof of service is critical. [01:52:14.400 --> 01:52:15.400] It is imperative. [01:52:15.400 --> 01:52:19.400] You put back into that case that you served so-and-so. [01:52:19.400 --> 01:52:20.400] You served this gun agency. [01:52:20.400 --> 01:52:21.400] You served this judge. [01:52:21.400 --> 01:52:22.400] You served so-so. [01:52:22.400 --> 01:52:26.400] Now all of a sudden their name is attached to your filing. [01:52:26.400 --> 01:52:29.400] There is a record of the fact that, hey, they received this copy, [01:52:29.400 --> 01:52:33.400] and they are not engaging lawfully according to your declaration. [01:52:33.400 --> 01:52:37.400] Once again, in the statutory you file motions, which is permission. [01:52:37.400 --> 01:52:39.400] You're asking for permission or forgiveness. [01:52:39.400 --> 01:52:42.400] In the common law, you file a declaration. [01:52:42.400 --> 01:52:48.400] You're not asking permission or forgiveness. [01:52:48.400 --> 01:52:52.400] So I should just send copies to the county anyway, send copies that say, [01:52:52.400 --> 01:52:55.400] you know, you rejected this, but file it anyway because... [01:52:55.400 --> 01:52:57.400] No, I wouldn't even deal with that. [01:52:57.400 --> 01:52:59.400] The county, I mean, here's the deal. [01:52:59.400 --> 01:53:01.400] When you put it in the miscellaneous file of the county clerk, [01:53:01.400 --> 01:53:04.400] you still have to direct them to where it's at. [01:53:04.400 --> 01:53:07.400] The thing is with the traffic ticket, well, [01:53:07.400 --> 01:53:09.400] they've already assigned status to you under that. [01:53:09.400 --> 01:53:11.400] They've already made you the principal. [01:53:11.400 --> 01:53:14.400] So, I mean, it's public record that that's your court case. [01:53:14.400 --> 01:53:19.400] They know that, you know, it's you filing it where you don't have to go [01:53:19.400 --> 01:53:22.400] and go look in miscellaneous file numbers, such-and-such, [01:53:22.400 --> 01:53:24.400] which is one thing with everybody else's. [01:53:24.400 --> 01:53:27.400] So I can send it to the court with anything that... [01:53:27.400 --> 01:53:31.400] attach it to anything that my name is attached to court case-wise. [01:53:31.400 --> 01:53:33.400] Absolutely. [01:53:33.400 --> 01:53:35.400] You are the principal. [01:53:35.400 --> 01:53:38.400] And I just send the copyright and power of attorney. [01:53:38.400 --> 01:53:41.400] I don't send my security agreement. [01:53:41.400 --> 01:53:45.400] Well, the security agreement, I'm not... [01:53:45.400 --> 01:53:48.400] And also you're filing a power of attorney for what? [01:53:48.400 --> 01:53:49.400] The straw man? [01:53:49.400 --> 01:53:51.400] Am I getting that correctly? [01:53:51.400 --> 01:53:53.400] Yeah, well, it's the truth of it, David, [01:53:53.400 --> 01:53:57.400] in the nature of supplemental rules for administrative and maritime claims [01:53:57.400 --> 01:54:01.400] and rules, power of attorney in fact saying that I am, you know, [01:54:01.400 --> 01:54:04.400] the principal living soul and take possession... [01:54:04.400 --> 01:54:07.400] Without reading it, you see that to me that sounds like a specific [01:54:07.400 --> 01:54:10.400] or limited power of attorney, which is good too. [01:54:10.400 --> 01:54:14.400] That's like the 456 fiduciary assignment for trust action as well. [01:54:14.400 --> 01:54:19.400] You're assigning power of attorney to them, but it's by copy only [01:54:19.400 --> 01:54:24.400] and where they have no signatory performance, which is good. [01:54:24.400 --> 01:54:25.400] I mean, they're relegated then. [01:54:25.400 --> 01:54:28.400] They can't do anything, but they can accept the liability, [01:54:28.400 --> 01:54:31.400] which is, you know, if anything happens to you, then they get just as much [01:54:31.400 --> 01:54:32.400] as you do. [01:54:32.400 --> 01:54:35.400] But the fiduciary assignment, see, that's all statutory forms. [01:54:35.400 --> 01:54:39.400] So to me, the common law outlines everything as far as I'm concerned. [01:54:39.400 --> 01:54:41.400] I mean, there's no ambiguity there. [01:54:41.400 --> 01:54:43.400] I like that. [01:54:43.400 --> 01:54:47.400] Well, these are just boilerplate templates for the redemption process [01:54:47.400 --> 01:54:48.400] that I use. [01:54:48.400 --> 01:54:50.400] Again, this is... [01:54:50.400 --> 01:54:55.400] I'm not sure which filing you have or just without looking at it. [01:54:55.400 --> 01:55:00.400] There's a number of different ones out there and some of them are... [01:55:00.400 --> 01:55:02.400] well, they vary from what I see. [01:55:02.400 --> 01:55:05.400] And then again, you have to remember, there's disinformation agents [01:55:05.400 --> 01:55:06.400] in this business too. [01:55:06.400 --> 01:55:09.400] They get those documents and I'm not saying this is the case for all of them, [01:55:09.400 --> 01:55:13.400] but, you know, they get out there and they'll take your paperwork [01:55:13.400 --> 01:55:17.400] and they'll modify it and stick it back out there. [01:55:17.400 --> 01:55:20.400] And, you know, they've got access to servers. [01:55:20.400 --> 01:55:24.400] They can pretty much do all kinds of things. [01:55:24.400 --> 01:55:29.400] Can you send me some copies of your boilerplate documents? [01:55:29.400 --> 01:55:30.400] Jeff? [01:55:30.400 --> 01:55:31.400] Can I? [01:55:31.400 --> 01:55:32.400] Yes. [01:55:32.400 --> 01:55:34.400] Send it to Randy and me both, please. [01:55:34.400 --> 01:55:37.400] You know what would be really nice, because again, to me, [01:55:37.400 --> 01:55:40.400] everything is mathematical, is to look in all these documents [01:55:40.400 --> 01:55:44.400] that are ascribed to be similar, but to look for the common denominator [01:55:44.400 --> 01:55:49.400] in each one to see what exactly the point is of these documents [01:55:49.400 --> 01:55:57.400] and then try to narrow it down to exactly what the force is behind these. [01:55:57.400 --> 01:55:59.400] All right, listen, we've got about two minutes left [01:55:59.400 --> 01:56:02.400] and I want to move on, Jeff, because we have a couple other callers on the line. [01:56:02.400 --> 01:56:04.400] We've got Mike from Texas and Kevin. [01:56:04.400 --> 01:56:08.400] Let's quickly try to jam in some calls here before they even show. [01:56:08.400 --> 01:56:10.400] Mike, what's on your mind tonight? [01:56:10.400 --> 01:56:12.400] What's your question for Steve, quickly? [01:56:12.400 --> 01:56:13.400] All right, guys, I've got two questions. [01:56:13.400 --> 01:56:15.400] And, Steve, first of all, do you have... [01:56:15.400 --> 01:56:20.400] You guys are talking about these templates in the UCC-1 [01:56:20.400 --> 01:56:24.400] and the copyright or the affidavit of this and that. [01:56:24.400 --> 01:56:26.400] I mean, I've seen those used, you know, [01:56:26.400 --> 01:56:28.400] I've known people who used them five years ago, [01:56:28.400 --> 01:56:30.400] but I don't know how effective they've been. [01:56:30.400 --> 01:56:31.400] So do you... [01:56:31.400 --> 01:56:34.400] Are you saying you have... [01:56:34.400 --> 01:56:35.400] I have a copyright. [01:56:35.400 --> 01:56:36.400] I like it. [01:56:36.400 --> 01:56:37.400] Oh, I like the copyright. [01:56:37.400 --> 01:56:38.400] Yes, I do. [01:56:38.400 --> 01:56:41.400] And you have put them down on numerous occasions or on several occasions? [01:56:41.400 --> 01:56:42.400] Oh, yeah. [01:56:42.400 --> 01:56:43.400] Oh, yeah. [01:56:43.400 --> 01:56:47.400] Do you have that somewhere where we can see it, your particular document? [01:56:47.400 --> 01:56:51.400] Yeah, actually, you know, I got my copyright... [01:56:51.400 --> 01:56:55.400] Where did that copyright come from? [01:56:55.400 --> 01:56:56.400] I'm not even sure where it came from. [01:56:56.400 --> 01:57:00.400] I would not be surprised if Roger Eldick had something to do with that. [01:57:00.400 --> 01:57:03.400] But the thing is, I've read over it, and it is succinct. [01:57:03.400 --> 01:57:05.400] It gets to the point, and it sure does work. [01:57:05.400 --> 01:57:08.400] And the thing is, this copyright originally was... [01:57:08.400 --> 01:57:10.400] If you send me a copy, I'll load it up. [01:57:10.400 --> 01:57:11.400] Okay. [01:57:11.400 --> 01:57:15.400] Yeah, the thing is, the way it was designed was to be filed with a county clerk. [01:57:15.400 --> 01:57:17.400] Well, shoot, I just took that a step further now [01:57:17.400 --> 01:57:25.400] and put a cause header on it for filing in your county with traffic tickets, whatever. [01:57:25.400 --> 01:57:26.400] That's great. [01:57:26.400 --> 01:57:29.400] And so you just put that in your file folder whenever they have something on you. [01:57:29.400 --> 01:57:31.400] But, okay, next question is on the UCC-1. [01:57:31.400 --> 01:57:33.400] You seem to know a little bit about it. [01:57:33.400 --> 01:57:42.400] It seems to me that because it's your basic bottom-of-the-road bling or whatever you want to call it, [01:57:42.400 --> 01:57:51.400] that if you have a UCC-1, how can you not be void of all taxes, property taxes, anyway? [01:57:51.400 --> 01:57:53.400] How do you know it works? [01:57:53.400 --> 01:57:54.400] Is that what you're saying? [01:57:54.400 --> 01:57:55.400] Right. [01:57:55.400 --> 01:57:56.400] Yeah. [01:57:56.400 --> 01:57:57.400] See, that's the thing with these UCCs. [01:57:57.400 --> 01:58:00.400] I mean, I see a lot of them filed, but they're not working. [01:58:00.400 --> 01:58:04.400] Like, my understanding is that they should be working. [01:58:04.400 --> 01:58:09.400] My understanding is it needs to be filed in your state or your place of commerce. [01:58:09.400 --> 01:58:15.400] I mean, okay, if you're born in a particular state and you then set up residence in another state, [01:58:15.400 --> 01:58:17.400] then you should have UCCs filed in both states, obviously, [01:58:17.400 --> 01:58:20.400] because it was a point of origination of your contract. [01:58:20.400 --> 01:58:25.400] But that doesn't stop the tax people from messing with you. [01:58:25.400 --> 01:58:26.400] Well, that's just it. [01:58:26.400 --> 01:58:27.400] Yeah, I agree with that. [01:58:27.400 --> 01:58:35.400] If it's not filed in your state of commerce and if it's not filed, it's transmitting utility. [01:58:35.400 --> 01:58:38.400] It's the transmitting utility part that's the big kicker. [01:58:38.400 --> 01:58:40.400] That's a 30-year commitment, too. [01:58:40.400 --> 01:58:43.400] And when I originally filed mine, because I was getting there and tinkering around, [01:58:43.400 --> 01:58:46.400] my bank account came back and said, utility on it. [01:58:46.400 --> 01:58:47.400] Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute. [01:58:47.400 --> 01:58:48.400] Hold on. [01:58:48.400 --> 01:58:49.400] I'm sorry. [01:58:49.400 --> 01:58:51.400] I have to cut you off, see, because we're at the end of the show. [01:58:51.400 --> 01:58:53.400] We'll have to have you back to discuss this some more. [01:58:53.400 --> 01:58:54.400] This has been the rule of law. [01:58:54.400 --> 01:58:57.400] We'll be back Thursday night. [01:59:24.400 --> 01:59:39.400] Thank you very much. [01:59:39.400 --> 01:59:54.400] Thank you.