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[00:05.400 --> 00:12.240]  In Lahore, Pakistan, Safrez Naimi, a prominent anti-Taliban Muslim cleric who condemned suicide
[00:12.240 --> 00:16.160]  bombings, was killed Friday in a suicide attack.
[00:16.160 --> 00:21.380]  In the Iranian elections, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was awarded 63% of the vote, but opposition
[00:21.380 --> 00:26.680]  candidates complained that some polling stations results were announced before the ballot boxes
[00:26.680 --> 00:32.240]  were opened, and in others, more than 100% of the electorate turned out to vote.
[00:32.240 --> 00:37.240]  The US Postal Service, having posted a $2 billion second quarter loss, is contemplating
[00:37.240 --> 00:50.240]  cutting tens of thousands more jobs and closing or consolidating 3100 of its 36,000 outlets.
[00:50.240 --> 00:54.800]  According to financial disclosure reports released Friday, senators who oversee the
[00:54.800 --> 01:00.000]  $700 billion Wall Street bailout held stocks in many of the banks bailed out toward the
[01:00.000 --> 01:01.200]  end of last year.
[01:01.200 --> 01:06.180]  The reports detailing senators' finances in 2008 show nearly half the Senate Banking
[01:06.180 --> 01:11.600]  Committee had holdings in financial institutions that have taken funds from TARP, the Troubled
[01:11.600 --> 01:13.400]  Asset Relief Program.
[01:13.400 --> 01:18.520]  For example, Senator Tim Johnson, a banking panel member, has assets in several banks
[01:18.520 --> 01:20.200]  that have taken bailout funds.
[01:20.200 --> 01:24.800]  Along with Goldman Sachs, the senator has several assets in Bank of America funds worth
[01:24.800 --> 01:27.440]  at least $115,000.
[01:27.440 --> 01:31.320]  Bank of America has received $45 billion in government funds.
[01:31.320 --> 01:36.400]  Another Democrat invested in bailout institutions is Senator Chuck Schumer, with assets valued
[01:36.400 --> 01:43.000]  between $15,000 and $50,000 in Morgan Stanley and $1,000 and $15,000 in Citibank.
[01:43.000 --> 01:51.240]  Morgan Stanley received $10 billion in TARP money, while Citigroup was given $25 billion.
[01:51.240 --> 01:56.160]  Bloomberg News reports as U.S. stock markets plummeted last September, the Senate's number
[01:56.160 --> 02:02.600]  two Democrat, Dick Durbin, sold $115,000 worth of stocks and mutual funds and used much of
[02:02.600 --> 02:06.040]  the money to invest in Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway.
[02:06.040 --> 02:11.360]  The Illinois senator's 2008 financial disclosure statement shows he sold mutual fund shares
[02:11.360 --> 02:17.880]  worth $42,600 on September 19, the day after then Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and
[02:17.880 --> 02:23.120]  Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke urged congressional leaders in a closed meeting
[02:23.120 --> 02:26.800]  to craft legislation to help financially troubled banks.
[02:26.800 --> 02:32.120]  The same day, he bought $43,000 worth of Berkshire Hathaway's Class B stock.
[02:32.120 --> 02:38.520]  The Standard & Poor's 500 index plunged 4.7% last September 15, after the bankruptcy of
[02:38.520 --> 02:43.840]  Lehman Brothers and Bank of America's government-engineered takeover of Merrill Lynch.
[02:43.840 --> 02:48.120]  Durbin's spokesman Joe Shoemaker said Durbin didn't capitalize on anything Paulson and
[02:48.120 --> 02:52.760]  Bernanke told congressional leaders at the September 18 meeting, since the information
[02:52.760 --> 03:11.040]  wasn't secret or classified and was disclosed publicly the next day.
[03:23.600 --> 03:50.520]  Bad boys, bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, whatcha
[03:50.520 --> 03:57.160]  gonna do, when they come for you, when you were eight and you had bad dreams, you'd
[03:57.160 --> 04:02.680]  go to school and learn the golden rule, so why are you acting like a bloody fool, if
[04:02.680 --> 04:08.680]  you get hot then you must get cool, bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna
[04:08.680 --> 04:14.680]  do when they come for you, bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do, when
[04:14.680 --> 04:19.640]  they come for you, you took it on that one, you took it on this one, you took it on your
[04:19.640 --> 04:23.560]  mother and you took it on your father, you took it on your brother and you took it on
[04:23.560 --> 04:29.000]  your sister, you took it on that one and you took it on me, bad boys, bad boys, whatcha
[04:29.000 --> 04:34.520]  gonna do, whatcha gonna do, when they come for you, bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna
[04:34.520 --> 04:35.640]  do, bad boys, bad boys.
[04:35.640 --> 04:42.520]  All right, we're back up, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Rural Law Radio with Eddie Craig.
[04:42.520 --> 04:47.840]  Deborah won't be with us tonight, she's on her way to the rainbow gathering.
[04:47.840 --> 04:53.740]  And hopefully, this year, we won't have as much excitement up there as we had last year.
[04:55.180 --> 04:59.580]  Tonight, Eddie and I are going to, we made a trip to Randall County last week.
[05:00.940 --> 05:03.600]  And we're going to talk about that, start out.
[05:06.420 --> 05:11.940]  And, Eddie, you want to kind of open us up, kind of give a lead in?
[05:11.940 --> 05:16.900]  Well, it was an interesting trip, to say the least.
[05:18.200 --> 05:21.660]  Randy was on a baiting expedition, and he got a few bites.
[05:22.140 --> 05:30.780]  We went down, and we went through some of the court files, just trying to not let them know exactly what it was that we were looking for,
[05:30.900 --> 05:36.220]  so that when we got to the specifics of the case we were interested in, they wouldn't know one from the other.
[05:36.220 --> 05:41.760]  We also managed to find some interesting things in some of those cases we were just sampling.
[05:41.760 --> 05:53.280]  But, for the most part, his fishing expedition resulted in the district attorney committing a couple of very problematic things for him.
[05:53.280 --> 06:00.640]  The first one being that he refused to take the criminal complaints against the magistrate who refused to allow us to view their morning
[06:00.640 --> 06:08.880]  magistration down at the jail. We did have good luck with the captain at the jail, though. She was perfectly willing to sign the criminal complaint
[06:08.880 --> 06:18.160]  against the magistrate and did so. We then took that to the district attorney. The district attorney, for his part, refused to actually act upon the
[06:18.160 --> 06:27.360]  criminal complaint. Randy did a Randy thing. He kind of showed himself in such a way as to get them all excited. He likes stirring up the
[06:27.360 --> 06:33.840]  hornets' nests, so to speak, and he does a good job of it. If anyone gets the chance to accompany him on a trip, do so.
[06:36.160 --> 06:44.800]  It was interesting. Yeah, he did manage to survive the entire few days without getting thrown in jail even once, though he was making quite the effort.
[06:47.200 --> 06:55.200]  Well, I was just following the thunder. I was pleased with how they treated me,
[06:55.200 --> 07:02.400]  and if anyone from Randall County is listening, I'm going to say some bad things about some of the officials, but
[07:03.760 --> 07:20.160]  that would be tempered with a respect in that everyone seemed to be smart enough to recognize that they had a problem here,
[07:20.160 --> 07:33.680]  and no one acted ignorant or overly ignorant. So, to that degree, I have to give them credit.
[07:35.280 --> 07:42.320]  There's one security guy there that every time I go there, I wind up just crawling down his throat,
[07:42.320 --> 07:56.560]  and frankly, he handles it really well. This time, I told him to beat it, and he kind of stepped back, and then he stopped, and he said,
[07:56.560 --> 08:12.800]  wait a minute, you can't tell him to talk to me like that. I said, yeah, I can, get lost, and he didn't lose his cool. He wanted to, but he didn't.
[08:12.800 --> 08:22.800]  Yeah, Randall did manage to elicit a fair number of, what did you say to me, excuse me, out of the guy before he gave up.
[08:22.800 --> 08:30.800]  I guess we should kind of start at the beginning. I set him up, and I hope that the prosecuting attorney, by the time we were done and left,
[08:31.680 --> 08:42.560]  realized that I set him up, and what we did was, is we went down, and first we did some searching around in the court records,
[08:42.560 --> 08:58.560]  and that's just kind of let them know we're around, and just be vague, just be a minor annoyance, and then I called the captain on the sheriff's department.
[08:58.560 --> 09:16.560]  The last time I was there, I encountered a lieutenant on the sheriff's department, and I really gave him a hard time. He was somewhat difficult, but he didn't lose his cool either.
[09:16.560 --> 09:32.560]  He was not as helpful as I would have liked, but I had to give him credit. He, when I told him in front of all of his troops, well, the short guy I always give a hard time to,
[09:32.560 --> 09:42.560]  I wanted him to take a complaint against the court clerk for not giving me the physical copies of some records, and he called his lieutenant,
[09:42.560 --> 09:51.560]  and the lieutenant came out, and I told him I needed him to take a complaint against the clerk, and he said, well, nobody will be taking any complaints here today,
[09:51.560 --> 10:02.560]  and I turned to this short guy, and it wasn't this time, it was the time before, and I said, what did you bring him for? He's worthless. If you guys aren't going to do anything, you can just beat it.
[10:02.560 --> 10:15.560]  You're all dismissed. You can go, and clearly the lieutenant wanted to reach down my throat and jerk my lungs out, but he didn't, so that was very good.
[10:15.560 --> 10:28.560]  I was real pleased with that, and this time, however, I didn't want to engage that same lieutenant, so before I went down there,
[10:28.560 --> 10:40.560]  I called, I looked on the Internet and found out who the boss was, and called this captain, she was a female, and told her that I wanted to come down and observe the morning hearing,
[10:40.560 --> 10:50.560]  and she told me which magistrate would be holding the hearing. I called the magistrate's office, and the magistrate's office told me that the magistrate just left for the jail.
[10:50.560 --> 11:04.560]  I said, perfect timing, so I headed down to the jail, and requested from their administrative office records of all the people had been arrested in May,
[11:04.560 --> 11:19.560]  and then requested to observe the morning hearing, and eventually the captain came out with this lieutenant in tow,
[11:19.560 --> 11:26.560]  and told me that the magistrate said that I couldn't observe the hearing, so I told her that was too bad.
[11:26.560 --> 11:37.560]  I hated to hear that, and asked the captain to verify my criminal complaint against the magistrate.
[11:37.560 --> 11:46.560]  Now the last time I was there, I asked the lieutenant to verify a criminal complaint, and he refused.
[11:46.560 --> 11:52.560]  When I asked the captain to verify a criminal complaint, she said, sure.
[11:52.560 --> 12:02.560]  I made up the complaint, gave it to her, and she verified my signature on it, and the lieutenant was standing behind her, never said a word,
[12:02.560 --> 12:12.560]  but when she said she would verify my criminal complaint, he spun on his heel, he just spun on his heel and walked away.
[12:12.560 --> 12:17.560]  Yes, that was good.
[12:17.560 --> 12:27.560]  Once she verified my complaint, then we took that to the district attorney, and he was a rather diminutive fellow.
[12:27.560 --> 12:32.560]  He wasn't terribly tall, he was almost as big around as he was tall,
[12:32.560 --> 12:43.560]  and I gave his clerk or secretary, the receptionist, whatever she was, the complaint,
[12:43.560 --> 12:48.560]  and she was trying to do some dance around, dance around, and I finally got a little short with her,
[12:48.560 --> 12:54.560]  just told her to give that to the prosecutor and let him deal with it, and so she did.
[12:54.560 --> 13:04.560]  Then the district attorney came out and said, what can I do for you? He was hiding behind this glass partition.
[13:04.560 --> 13:16.560]  He said, what can I do for you? I said, you can give me an initial and give me a copy of that complaint I just gave you.
[13:16.560 --> 13:25.560]  He said, why would I do that? He gave me this really smug, smart-mouthed look.
[13:25.560 --> 13:31.560]  I said, because it's polite. Well, I'm not going to do that. Is there anything else I can do for you?
[13:31.560 --> 13:38.560]  Yes, there is. You can take that complaint I gave you and present it to the grand jury the way Article 203 commands you to do.
[13:38.560 --> 13:42.560]  I won't be presenting anything to the grand jury.
[13:42.560 --> 13:47.560]  Is that so? Well, in that case, I need security.
[13:47.560 --> 13:55.560]  And he said, you are very secure here. Yeah, maybe I am, but you're not, Bubba.
[13:55.560 --> 14:00.560]  And I headed for security. And then we started up a big stink with security.
[14:00.560 --> 14:06.560]  You know, they didn't want to arrest their district attorney. I don't know why.
[14:06.560 --> 14:16.560]  And so I asked them for the non-emergency number to the Sheriff's Department. They said, no, you'll have to call the local police.
[14:16.560 --> 14:27.560]  And then we got into this little give and take about the local police not having subject matter jurisdiction within a county building.
[14:27.560 --> 14:43.560]  They insisted. So I called the city police. City police came and took my complaint against the district attorney, but the officer refused to verify it.
[14:43.560 --> 14:47.560]  But he was very careful.
[14:47.560 --> 14:54.560]  So we've got Randall County's attention in that they're everybody's being real cautious in what they do with us.
[14:54.560 --> 15:02.560]  So now we have a criminal complaint in the hands of the city of Canyon Police Department.
[15:02.560 --> 15:09.560]  Now, the city of Canyon Police Department is going to throw that in the trash.
[15:09.560 --> 15:22.560]  And then what these guys will have done is started a fight with the city of Canyon Police Department because then whoever touches that complaint,
[15:22.560 --> 15:35.560]  I will file criminal charges against them if they don't present the complaint to some magistrate the way Article 2.13 commands them to do.
[15:35.560 --> 15:43.560]  And then we will eventually put together the standard lawsuit we're working up against the whole outfit.
[15:43.560 --> 16:00.560]  I'm preparing a criminal complaint for the grand jury and primarily it will be against the police department for shielding a complaint against the district attorney from the grand jury.
[16:00.560 --> 16:06.560]  And the complaint against the district attorney is shielding the complaint against the judge from the grand jury.
[16:06.560 --> 16:09.560]  This is going to be a hoot.
[16:09.560 --> 16:18.560]  So it's kind of the standard procedure. Those who listen to us quite a bit, I'm sure you've all heard this before.
[16:18.560 --> 16:25.560]  So it's the standard routine. They all just tend to fall right in.
[16:25.560 --> 16:34.560]  Well, it's getting close to break. We'll pick back up on the other side and kind of get Eddie's opinions on this.
[16:34.560 --> 16:44.560]  And then we'll start taking calls. We have Rodney from Texas. We'll pick him up when we come back from break.
[16:44.560 --> 16:58.560]  Just hang on in there. Rule of Law Radio will be back in just a few moments.
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[17:58.560 --> 18:25.560]  Look what we've got. We asked the question. I wonder what they're hiding. We don't have the answer. What they're not hiding. We asked the question.
[18:25.560 --> 18:36.560]  Let's learn again. We don't have the answer. How slow can sleep and slide? They might talk about issues. But see, Lord, how they want to win them if it's easy.
[18:36.560 --> 18:46.560]  They might talk way too politically. And they might get mad and angry. Let them stand up and fight and fight for their freedom and be free.
[18:46.560 --> 19:03.560]  Oh, are we in? Yes, we are. Debra's not here tonight and I'm waiting for Debra to bring us in. I'm brain dead. That's your job, my friend.
[19:03.560 --> 19:19.560]  Okay, we're back. Sort of. I think we're back. If I can keep my brains in the right place. We've got Rodney from Texas. Rodney, there you have a question for us.
[19:19.560 --> 19:37.560]  Yeah. Your technique that you use, like following a complaint. If I were to do some legal research, say from the Texas Jurisprudence.
[19:37.560 --> 19:41.560]  Wait, Rodney, I'm having trouble understanding you. Can you speak up a little?
[19:41.560 --> 20:06.560]  I'm asking you, if I were to look at the Texas Jurisprudence, would I be able to find cases where by individuals use some of the techniques that you use to have some of these people arrested for violating their oath of office?
[20:06.560 --> 20:19.560]  Well, I don't know. What I do is essentially what a police officer is supposed to be doing.
[20:19.560 --> 20:47.560]  You won't find what I do in the Texas Jurisprudence. That's a legal encyclopedia. You're not likely to find it because generally this is kind of an accepted procedure, but citizens almost never do it.
[20:47.560 --> 21:03.560]  So you won't find it in terms of citizens. Just pretend like you're a police officer and look at what police officers do and prosecutors wear all of those things because we're the sovereign.
[21:03.560 --> 21:18.560]  It's like I own my own company and I hire people to do jobs for me. But in the end, if the job doesn't get done, it's my place to go. I have to go in and do it.
[21:18.560 --> 21:38.560]  And in that capacity, we're the sovereigns and whatever needs to be done, we can do it. So if you're looking for something in law to give you a prescription of what to do, just look what a policeman's authorized to do.
[21:38.560 --> 22:05.560]  Now, there are some things he can do that we can't do, which should be clear and carry a pistol, arrest people for misdemeanors. Those areas of what a policeman does that is specifically stipulated by law and made within his purview alone, we can't do.
[22:05.560 --> 22:17.560]  Like drive around in a police car and turn on our sirens and exceed the speed limit whenever we want to and and eat donuts all day.
[22:17.560 --> 22:38.560]  It's kind of hard to get this across because it's kind of a backward way of understanding this. You and I, we're sovereign citizens, so we can do anything we are not specifically forbidden to do.
[22:38.560 --> 22:54.560]  That's how I can do what I do. If the law doesn't say a private citizen may not file a criminal complaint, then a private citizen can file a criminal complaint.
[22:54.560 --> 23:12.560]  Now, the law does say that a private person cannot make a citizen's arrest for a misdemeanor unless the misdemeanor is a breach of the peace.
[23:12.560 --> 23:26.560]  A citizen can make a citizen's arrest for a felony, but he may not make it for a misdemeanor that's not a breach of the peace. So in that regard, I am restricted.
[23:26.560 --> 23:46.560]  Other than that, I'm not restricted. And the problems these guys have is, you know, I want to go to the grand jury. I don't look for something to say you can do this, you can do that. I look for something that says you can't talk to the grand jury foreman while he's sitting on the toilet.
[23:46.560 --> 23:56.560]  I don't see that anymore. That means I can talk to the grand jury foreman while he's sitting on the toilet. I hope that makes sense, Rodney.
[23:56.560 --> 24:06.560]  Yeah, I'm not trying to be a smart aleck or anything, but I'm trying to teach myself to ABC political research.
[24:06.560 --> 24:19.560]  I didn't think you were being a smart aleck at all. And that was, it's a really good question because it takes a different mindset in order to grasp this.
[24:19.560 --> 24:40.560]  Once you kind of get it down, it makes absolute sense. Once you learn to take off your litigant's hat and put on your sovereign's hat, it makes sense to look at these guys that all of our public officials are following management policy.
[24:40.560 --> 24:57.560]  A management. It's my policy. I don't have to follow. That's true. It's pretty much just as simple as the fact that, you know, we gave them a list of statutes that is their code of conduct.
[24:57.560 --> 25:13.560]  We gave them certain powers within that code of conduct. We delegated the powers to them. So those powers are in their domain. But any power we did not give to them is still ours.
[25:13.560 --> 25:35.560]  Okay. All right. Well, that makes sense. I had a question for you, Eddie. I just, just the jurisdictionary court, I haven't gotten it yet, but I heard you say that you've actually used it.
[25:35.560 --> 25:52.560]  Use some of the principles that Randy uses? Well, I don't know what you mean by the principles. What it does do is it instructs you on how to work the world that the courts work in.
[25:52.560 --> 26:05.560]  It teaches you how to write a motion, what elements need to be in a motion, how to determine whether or not every thing that has to be proven in a case has been.
[26:05.560 --> 26:16.560]  Basically, it gives you from A to Z everything involving the paper side, the process side, and the how to think of things side.
[26:16.560 --> 26:26.560]  It teaches you about discovery and so on and so forth. And the way I've heard it put is that for every one hour of the 24 hours you spend studying the jurisdictionary course,
[26:26.560 --> 26:40.560]  you put in four to five hours reading case law, reading law books, doing research of your own, and adding to that capable knowledge, then you're on par with 80% of the lawyers across the U.S.
[26:40.560 --> 26:53.560]  as far as knowledge and ability, which I would pretty much say is probably higher than that considering most of the lawyers I've met can't tie their shoes without an instruction booklet.
[26:53.560 --> 27:05.560]  Well, I mean, Randy, I'm not trying to belittle you by asking these questions. I just want to be able to use that course in conjunction with the techniques that I hear you discussing of your ship.
[27:05.560 --> 27:14.560]  Oh, you don't have to worry about that. I don't feel that way at all. I actually use what's in the jurisdictionary all the time.
[27:14.560 --> 27:29.560]  I'm always writing motions and different documents. When somebody asks me about what do I do here and I tell them why you need to file a writ habeas corpus or writ amandamus or file this motion or that motion,
[27:29.560 --> 27:38.560]  that's all about jurisdictionary. That's the basics that you need to understand what's going on.
[27:38.560 --> 27:49.560]  One show particularly stands out. I had a caller from Michigan, Michigan or Wisconsin. His son was arrested with a couple other kids in a car.
[27:49.560 --> 28:00.560]  The son wasn't driving, didn't own the car. They found marijuana in the glove compartment or in the center console. Very small amount. Arrested all the kids.
[28:00.560 --> 28:11.560]  And he took them on. And we were talking and he told what they did. I said, well, you know, you ought to file a writ amandamus. He said, I did that.
[28:11.560 --> 28:19.560]  And he said, you filed it, but nothing happened. I said, well, then you really need to file a motion to compel. Oh, I did that.
[28:19.560 --> 28:27.560]  I said, wait a minute. Have you got the jurisdictionary courts? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I got that one all through.
[28:27.560 --> 28:46.560]  No wonder, because with him, I was able to step up to another level. I didn't have to do all the really basic stuff. The jurisdictionary brought him a step that was way up there.
[28:46.560 --> 28:55.560]  Ninety percent of these attorneys do the same exact things over and over and over. That's why they specialize.
[28:55.560 --> 29:11.560]  If you hire an attorney to represent you in your case, the attorney is going to tell you, OK, we're going to go down and file this motion to express all the evidence.
[29:11.560 --> 29:18.560]  And then they're going to get in court and going to have this do this song and dance ritual between your attorney and the prosecutor.
[29:18.560 --> 29:25.560]  And then the judge is going to turn down his motion. He's going to come run to you. Oh, no. Oh, no. This is terrible. You're going to have to take this deal.
[29:25.560 --> 29:31.560]  Every case, they do the same thing. They don't know anything. That's all they know.
[29:31.560 --> 29:39.560]  Well, that's why I listened to your show and I got this course because I want to be more proactive.
[29:39.560 --> 29:45.560]  Well, you can be encouraged. It doesn't take much to get ahead of these attorneys. We're about to go to break.
[29:45.560 --> 29:50.560]  Yeah, we're going to go break. If you want to hang on to the other side, we'll be back in just a little bit.
[29:50.560 --> 29:58.560]  Sure.
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[31:11.560 --> 31:16.560]  Okay, we're back. There's something I want to address right up here in the front.
[31:16.560 --> 31:22.560]  Rodney was concerned that he might be stepping on my toes.
[31:22.560 --> 31:27.560]  Primarily, what I do is I do legal reform.
[31:27.560 --> 31:31.560]  The radio is secondary to what I actually do.
[31:31.560 --> 31:38.560]  And in doing legal reform, I'm always trying to improve my technology.
[31:38.560 --> 31:46.560]  So there is almost no challenge you can make to me other than I'm fat and ugly.
[31:46.560 --> 31:49.560]  That will in any way hurt my feelings.
[31:49.560 --> 31:53.560]  I'm here to improve my technology.
[31:53.560 --> 32:04.560]  If you disagree with me, by all means let me know and I know I'm speaking for Eddie, but I have no doubt he feels the same way.
[32:04.560 --> 32:13.560]  If you think it's a good question, ask it. If you think it's a stupid question, ask it anyway.
[32:13.560 --> 32:20.560]  And if you think we're doing something dumb or stupid, by all means let us know and don't ever worry about hurting our feelings.
[32:20.560 --> 32:23.560]  Yes, please. There's an old saying I've lived by a long time.
[32:23.560 --> 32:31.560]  The only stupid question is an unasked question unless it's the same question ten times in a row.
[32:31.560 --> 32:45.560]  I just want to say the reason why I ask if any of your techniques might be found in the Texas jurisdiction is because I actually asked that question
[32:45.560 --> 32:53.560]  of a lawyer that I hired in a year ago about some issues that he was supposed to handle for me.
[32:53.560 --> 32:56.560]  And he said, no, there were no cases.
[32:56.560 --> 33:08.560]  I found out later there were hundreds of cases out there that were relevant to my case, but I didn't know where to look for.
[33:08.560 --> 33:11.560]  I guess he didn't either.
[33:11.560 --> 33:20.560]  We've been talking about putting together a show on how to do legal research.
[33:20.560 --> 33:29.560]  It's not that terribly difficult, but it does take a certain amount of mental discipline.
[33:29.560 --> 33:33.560]  I've been going through cases here recently.
[33:33.560 --> 33:51.560]  And Eddie, I sent Eddie a chat saying how what I was looking through annoyed me because of the sightings, case sightings people had given me that weren't correct.
[33:51.560 --> 33:55.560]  And he said a lot of things annoy you. Yes, they do.
[33:55.560 --> 34:06.560]  When people mis-sight cases, that annoys me. And the reason they're mis-sighting cases is because they're reading proactively.
[34:06.560 --> 34:17.560]  They're reading to find what they're looking for rather than reading to find what's actually in the case they're looking at.
[34:17.560 --> 34:27.560]  Now, I do research to find what I'm looking for. But when I read a case, I have to read it very carefully.
[34:27.560 --> 34:31.560]  I forget what my interest is.
[34:31.560 --> 34:40.560]  Step outside myself and read that case to understand what it's saying and what it's pointing to.
[34:40.560 --> 34:49.560]  I got a case that said all debt is maritime.
[34:49.560 --> 34:54.560]  I got this citation and they gave me the case.
[34:54.560 --> 34:57.560]  I got the case.
[34:57.560 --> 35:03.560]  The citation they gave me was not in there.
[35:03.560 --> 35:16.560]  But what the case did say was that all debt was maritime before 1966.
[35:16.560 --> 35:24.560]  After 1966, the maritime was combined with the federal civil.
[35:24.560 --> 35:38.560]  And now instead of a debt ringing in maritime, it rings in civil on the rules of civil procedure as condemnation.
[35:38.560 --> 35:56.560]  So the guy was looking for a way to get to maritime, and he saw that in there, read it, misinterpreted what he read, and stated his misinterpretation as a sight in the case.
[35:56.560 --> 36:09.560]  That will destroy your credibility quicker than anything, and I find this in legal reform all the time, and people are being terribly misled by it.
[36:09.560 --> 36:11.560]  Randy, could I butt in real quick?
[36:11.560 --> 36:12.560]  Sure.
[36:12.560 --> 36:27.560]  I've actually seen lawyers use that trick in court. They miss citations, and if you don't call them on it, they use that citation to win the case.
[36:27.560 --> 36:32.560]  I've seen this many times with some very high-profile lawyers.
[36:32.560 --> 36:43.560]  If I catch a lawyer doing that, he gets a bar grievance, and he gets a motion for sanctions and fraud on the court.
[36:43.560 --> 36:46.560]  A possible motion to dismiss.
[36:46.560 --> 36:55.560]  Yes, and that's grounds to get a decision overturned if the judge is making a decision based on misrepresentation of law.
[36:55.560 --> 37:00.560]  I catch them doing that. I'm going to give them a new attitude.
[37:00.560 --> 37:07.560]  I think that a lot of people should be aware of that because I actually lost the case to a lawyer.
[37:07.560 --> 37:19.560]  It's essentially the same thing, and I've seen other lawyers do it in other cases while I actually was in the court for myself.
[37:19.560 --> 37:28.560]  If an attorney misquotes law to the court, you can sue the attorney for malpractice, even if he's not your attorney.
[37:28.560 --> 37:35.560]  By any chance, did he do this in a brief or a motion?
[37:35.560 --> 37:37.560]  It was a motion.
[37:37.560 --> 37:40.560]  Did you get a copy of it in order to review it?
[37:40.560 --> 37:52.560]  I actually didn't know what was going on at the time. It wasn't until much later that I discovered that he had miscited.
[37:52.560 --> 37:56.560]  Well, yeah, but I mean, the question is, were you provided a copy of it?
[37:56.560 --> 37:58.560]  Yes, I do have copies.
[37:58.560 --> 38:07.560]  Okay. Yeah, always read something that the opposition files carefully and research what they put in there carefully.
[38:07.560 --> 38:11.560]  I know you didn't know that then, but that's just an FYI for all the other folks listening.
[38:11.560 --> 38:20.560]  More than that, if your attorney is quoting case law, he gives you a place to start.
[38:20.560 --> 38:35.560]  The first thing I want to do is look at the other side's case law. Ben Drum, friend of mine, in a tax case, the opposite side quotes a case in a brief.
[38:35.560 --> 38:46.560]  He reads it, goes, looks it up, comes back into court and literally annihilated them with the case they cited.
[38:46.560 --> 38:54.560]  So if they had misread the case, Ben got it, read it, and it was dead on what he needed.
[38:54.560 --> 38:57.560]  He said, it hadn't been for them. I've never found that case.
[38:57.560 --> 39:03.560]  And yeah, and the hardest part about legal research is getting your first case on point.
[39:03.560 --> 39:09.560]  Once you get a case on point, it'll quote other cases on point. You can bounce off of those and find what you need.
[39:09.560 --> 39:16.560]  So yeah, anytime I can get the other side to give me case law, I'm just thrilled with it.
[39:16.560 --> 39:20.560]  We do need to move along. The callers are really stacking up.
[39:20.560 --> 39:29.560]  Okay. I'm sorry about that. I just wanted to put that point out there because my lawyer told me just shut up and let me do all the talking well.
[39:29.560 --> 39:31.560]  That did me.
[39:31.560 --> 39:34.560]  He meant let me do all the stealing.
[39:34.560 --> 39:37.560]  Yeah. I hope you learned what that means.
[39:37.560 --> 39:39.560]  Let me bring the Vaseline.
[39:39.560 --> 39:43.560]  Have a good evening, guys.
[39:43.560 --> 39:45.560]  Okay. Good evening.
[39:45.560 --> 39:46.560]  You, too.
[39:46.560 --> 39:50.560]  Okay. We have Michael from Texas.
[39:50.560 --> 39:53.560]  Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my call.
[39:53.560 --> 39:55.560]  This question is for Randy.
[39:55.560 --> 40:09.560]  Randy, I've just been purchasing Tim Turner's seminar online and got to watch that this past weekend
[40:09.560 --> 40:15.560]  and really got a bunch of really good information.
[40:15.560 --> 40:20.560]  And I noticed that you were in the audience during the seminar.
[40:20.560 --> 40:27.560]  And obviously people are attending the seminar, they're attending it in groups,
[40:27.560 --> 40:30.560]  and they've got people that are kind of supporting one another.
[40:30.560 --> 40:35.560]  And my question to you is, I've got a couple different questions.
[40:35.560 --> 40:44.560]  First of all, filing these, like the freedom documents is how I'm going to take this on, is try to do it in chunks.
[40:44.560 --> 40:47.560]  Because obviously it's a lot of paperwork and it's a lot of filing.
[40:47.560 --> 40:53.560]  And there's procedure obviously and the procedure for filing the freedom documents locally.
[40:53.560 --> 40:59.560]  My question for you is, have you started filing these documents
[40:59.560 --> 41:03.560]  and have you had any trouble filing them here in Travis County?
[41:03.560 --> 41:09.560]  I only got my face smashed into one wall and thrown in jail twice.
[41:09.560 --> 41:10.560]  Really?
[41:10.560 --> 41:13.560]  Really.
[41:13.560 --> 41:20.560]  But then again, that was, I have a tendency sometimes to press the edge of the envelope.
[41:20.560 --> 41:26.560]  And Randy's, you know, in their defense, Randy has that ability.
[41:26.560 --> 41:31.560]  He's a button pusher to show up and file these documents.
[41:31.560 --> 41:39.560]  Well, okay, you can, there's a, if you saw Denise, I'm sure she was on the video.
[41:39.560 --> 41:40.560]  Yes.
[41:40.560 --> 41:45.560]  There's a website where you can publish all the documents that need to be made public.
[41:45.560 --> 41:49.560]  So you don't have to mess with these locals trying to file documents.
[41:49.560 --> 41:50.560]  Okay.
[41:50.560 --> 41:52.560]  The rest can be filed by mail.
[41:52.560 --> 41:56.560]  I advise, don't go down to the court unless you have to.
[41:56.560 --> 41:58.560]  If you can do it by mail, better.
[41:58.560 --> 42:01.560]  And anything you don't have to file with them, don't.
[42:01.560 --> 42:07.560]  If you could publish it online, so much the better, less fights you get into.
[42:07.560 --> 42:11.560]  I had someone file most of those documents for me.
[42:11.560 --> 42:18.560]  I'm still not sure what I think of all of it.
[42:18.560 --> 42:20.560]  What do you mean?
[42:20.560 --> 42:29.560]  Well, I, the one question I went to the seminar for, I didn't get answered.
[42:29.560 --> 42:36.560]  How do I get off the water onto the land and maritime?
[42:36.560 --> 42:39.560]  No one has answered me at that question for me.
[42:39.560 --> 42:47.560]  They keep assuring me there is an answer and keep telling me they will provide me with the case law.
[42:47.560 --> 42:53.560]  Well, I was going through a bunch of case law that people had sent me.
[42:53.560 --> 42:59.560]  And frankly, what I found did not please me one little bit.
[42:59.560 --> 43:01.560]  Could you elaborate on that?
[43:01.560 --> 43:11.560]  Yes, so far as I can tell, you cannot get off the sea.
[43:11.560 --> 43:17.560]  I know Harmon Taylor talked about how, about this acrylic ceiling,
[43:17.560 --> 43:23.560]  about bringing the maritime down out of the air onto the ground.
[43:23.560 --> 43:25.560]  Misconception.
[43:25.560 --> 43:30.560]  The air over the ground is not in maritime.
[43:30.560 --> 43:34.560]  The only thing that's in maritime is over the water.
[43:34.560 --> 43:39.560]  Maritime contracts do not necessarily go to maritime.
[43:39.560 --> 43:41.560]  That's what they were saying.
[43:41.560 --> 43:43.560]  Okay, we're going to go to break.
[43:43.560 --> 43:45.560]  I'll address that a little more when I come back.
[43:45.560 --> 43:46.560]  Okay.
[43:46.560 --> 43:49.560]  But I'm real disappointed on that issue.
[43:49.560 --> 43:53.560]  It's giving me heartburn as a matter of fact.
[43:53.560 --> 43:55.560]  And it's annoying me.
[43:55.560 --> 44:00.560]  We'll be right back.
[44:25.560 --> 44:27.560]  We'll be right back.
[44:55.560 --> 45:16.560]  And he's off and running again.
[45:16.560 --> 45:18.560]  This is Rule of Law Radio.
[45:18.560 --> 45:22.560]  We're back and we're going to let Randy finish his discussion.
[45:22.560 --> 45:28.560]  Okay, I have a document here that Tim Ehrlich sent me, Ehrlich.
[45:28.560 --> 45:30.560]  And I appreciate it because he said he went through it
[45:30.560 --> 45:32.560]  and he couldn't verify the case law
[45:32.560 --> 45:34.560]  and he wanted me to look at the case law and verify it.
[45:34.560 --> 45:35.560]  Okay.
[45:35.560 --> 45:36.560]  So I looked at it.
[45:36.560 --> 45:41.560]  One of the first pieces of case law in it was the propeller,
[45:41.560 --> 45:48.560]  Janice Chief, 53 U.S. 12 Howe.
[45:48.560 --> 45:53.560]  Well, that was an incorrect citation.
[45:53.560 --> 45:58.560]  The case, they cited the case wrong.
[45:58.560 --> 46:03.560]  But anyway, this case was superseded
[46:03.560 --> 46:11.560]  and criticized by another case which propeller Janice,
[46:11.560 --> 46:18.560]  if I remember what I read right, said that I think this was the one
[46:18.560 --> 46:26.560]  that went to debt being ringing in maritime.
[46:26.560 --> 46:30.560]  And then later it was completely overturned.
[46:30.560 --> 46:35.560]  So it was no longer useful law on the very point that they addressed.
[46:35.560 --> 46:41.560]  Now, when you look at a case, it's not enough just to cite the case.
[46:41.560 --> 46:46.560]  You need to look at Shepard's.
[46:46.560 --> 46:51.560]  Westlaw has something similar where it will list all of the cases
[46:51.560 --> 46:54.560]  that has mentioned your case.
[46:54.560 --> 46:56.560]  And sometimes they'll mention your case
[46:56.560 --> 47:01.560]  and the Supreme Court will say it's a bunch of crapola.
[47:01.560 --> 47:03.560]  It doesn't apply anymore.
[47:03.560 --> 47:05.560]  And that's what happened in Janice.
[47:05.560 --> 47:08.560]  It's an 1851 case.
[47:08.560 --> 47:13.560]  The rulings in 1851 do not apply anymore.
[47:13.560 --> 47:18.560]  I've got Jackson versus the Magnolia.
[47:18.560 --> 47:20.560]  Wrong name.
[47:20.560 --> 47:23.560]  The name of the case is the People's Ferry Company of Boston,
[47:23.560 --> 47:31.560]  claimants of Steamboat Jefferson, Appellants versus Joseph Beers.
[47:31.560 --> 47:36.560]  Right case, wrong name, case didn't apply anymore.
[47:36.560 --> 47:40.560]  And through the whole thing, wrong citation.
[47:40.560 --> 47:43.560]  The Huntress, they reference the Huntress.
[47:43.560 --> 47:46.560]  This is an 1840 case.
[47:46.560 --> 47:52.560]  And the Huntress only went to salvage.
[47:52.560 --> 47:55.560]  I have a next notation here that I won't read on the air.
[47:55.560 --> 47:59.560]  Totally opposite reading of the citation.
[47:59.560 --> 48:01.560]  Oh, this is the one on debt.
[48:01.560 --> 48:07.560]  283 Federal Supplement 904, 1968 case.
[48:07.560 --> 48:09.560]  Forfeiture should be an action of debt.
[48:09.560 --> 48:14.560]  Debt begins in Admiralty rather on land or navigable waters.
[48:14.560 --> 48:19.560]  The case says exactly the opposite.
[48:19.560 --> 48:21.560]  And the guy's quoting this.
[48:21.560 --> 48:24.560]  This is the kind of stuff that drives me crazy.
[48:24.560 --> 48:29.560]  I spent several hours on maritime law.
[48:29.560 --> 48:37.560]  And from my digging in the case law, it seems absolutely clear.
[48:37.560 --> 48:41.560]  Contract does not take you to maritime.
[48:41.560 --> 48:48.560]  Only if it is clearly a maritime contract that brings us salt water.
[48:48.560 --> 48:53.560]  One of the cases said this contract does not bring in maritime
[48:53.560 --> 48:56.560]  because it's not salty enough.
[48:56.560 --> 49:00.560]  So unless somebody can give me some good case law,
[49:00.560 --> 49:05.560]  it appears to me that all this stuff is to do about maritime
[49:05.560 --> 49:07.560]  could really be a problem.
[49:07.560 --> 49:13.560]  People filing maritime liens could be treading very, very deep water.
[49:13.560 --> 49:14.560]  Okay, we need to move along.
[49:14.560 --> 49:16.560]  Got lots of callers.
[49:16.560 --> 49:20.560]  We may want to talk about this more Friday night when we've got four hours.
[49:20.560 --> 49:22.560]  I'll have time to do a little more research.
[49:22.560 --> 49:25.560]  All right, I'll give you a call back on Friday.
[49:25.560 --> 49:26.560]  Okay, good.
[49:26.560 --> 49:27.560]  Thank you.
[49:27.560 --> 49:30.560]  Thanks, Randy.
[49:30.560 --> 49:33.560]  Okay, we have Al from Florida.
[49:33.560 --> 49:35.560]  Al, you got a question or comment?
[49:35.560 --> 49:37.560]  No, I'm just listening in.
[49:37.560 --> 49:40.560]  Very good information.
[49:40.560 --> 49:43.560]  Oh, okay.
[49:43.560 --> 49:46.560]  We have a listener line.
[49:46.560 --> 49:49.560]  I'm looking for it.
[49:49.560 --> 49:51.560]  Eddie, you know what the listener line is?
[49:51.560 --> 49:55.560]  Oh, I think I wrote the wrong one.
[49:55.560 --> 49:58.560]  It's the 485-9010.
[49:58.560 --> 49:59.560]  That's it.
[49:59.560 --> 50:01.560]  Is that the listen call?
[50:01.560 --> 50:02.560]  Yes.
[50:02.560 --> 50:05.560]  Oh, I got into 646-1984?
[50:05.560 --> 50:06.560]  Yeah.
[50:06.560 --> 50:08.560]  Yeah, that's the call in line.
[50:08.560 --> 50:09.560]  I apologize.
[50:09.560 --> 50:11.560]  Now you have to talk for five minutes.
[50:11.560 --> 50:13.560]  What's that?
[50:13.560 --> 50:16.560]  I say now you have to talk on the radio for 20 minutes
[50:16.560 --> 50:19.560]  and say something really intelligent and insightful.
[50:19.560 --> 50:21.560]  Well, I got a mean call right now,
[50:21.560 --> 50:24.560]  so I don't think I'd be good candidate right now.
[50:24.560 --> 50:25.560]  Okay, okay.
[50:25.560 --> 50:27.560]  We'll go to Duane in Louisiana.
[50:27.560 --> 50:28.560]  Thank you.
[50:28.560 --> 50:30.560]  Hello, Duane.
[50:30.560 --> 50:32.560]  You have a question for us, a comment?
[50:32.560 --> 50:34.560]  I'm calling with a comment.
[50:34.560 --> 50:36.560]  Hello?
[50:36.560 --> 50:37.560]  Hello, we're here.
[50:37.560 --> 50:38.560]  Yeah, go ahead.
[50:38.560 --> 50:44.560]  Yeah, it's about that thing I sent to Debra and you
[50:44.560 --> 50:46.560]  a couple of weeks ago on the dam,
[50:46.560 --> 50:49.560]  you know, from the Department of Environmental Quality.
[50:49.560 --> 50:51.560]  Ah, you're the dam rider of the dam.
[50:51.560 --> 50:52.560]  I'm the dam rider.
[50:52.560 --> 50:55.560]  I received something like that a couple of years ago.
[50:55.560 --> 50:58.560]  Well, it's the first time I've seen it,
[50:58.560 --> 51:01.560]  besides really enjoying what I read in that.
[51:01.560 --> 51:06.560]  It reminded me of another situation I was aware of in Illinois
[51:06.560 --> 51:13.560]  where there was an organic farmer, late 90s I think, maybe 96, 97,
[51:13.560 --> 51:16.560]  15-acre organic farm.
[51:16.560 --> 51:21.560]  The guy was a total naturalist and very much into what he did and does.
[51:21.560 --> 51:26.560]  And one of the things he did to make cash was take from all the area
[51:26.560 --> 51:30.560]  salvage yards, take all of their propane tanks,
[51:30.560 --> 51:33.560]  and he would pull the stems out of them.
[51:33.560 --> 51:36.560]  One, that for the brass, he would sell the brass.
[51:36.560 --> 51:39.560]  And then two, he'd cut them in half so that then those tanks,
[51:39.560 --> 51:42.560]  they were steel and then they could go to salvage.
[51:42.560 --> 51:45.560]  Well, the Illinois State Department of Environmental Quality
[51:45.560 --> 51:48.560]  had an agent in the neighborhood that came on his property
[51:48.560 --> 51:56.560]  and cited him for polluting the air and the soil and took him to court
[51:56.560 --> 51:59.560]  because he wasn't going to pay him any fines or anything
[51:59.560 --> 52:01.560]  because they were trying to shut down his whole operation,
[52:01.560 --> 52:05.560]  not only the salvage part but also his farm.
[52:05.560 --> 52:08.560]  So he'd messed with them for about a year going back and forth.
[52:08.560 --> 52:09.560]  He did pro se work.
[52:09.560 --> 52:14.560]  He did all his own studying and it kept going back and forth, back and forth.
[52:14.560 --> 52:17.560]  And then he finally, after about a year,
[52:17.560 --> 52:21.560]  came up with the idea to motion the court to show him the law
[52:21.560 --> 52:27.560]  that legally established the Illinois Department of Environmental Quality.
[52:27.560 --> 52:32.560]  And at that point, the court all of a sudden went into,
[52:32.560 --> 52:36.560]  we're done with the case, we're going to give you a $25 fine,
[52:36.560 --> 52:40.560]  which we suspend and then they ordered the agent
[52:40.560 --> 52:43.560]  to never go on the guy's property again.
[52:43.560 --> 52:48.560]  So that told me, and I actually, I read the motion and what have you,
[52:48.560 --> 52:53.560]  and that told me that they couldn't prove that the Department of Environmental
[52:53.560 --> 52:57.560]  Quality for Illinois was ever legally established.
[52:57.560 --> 53:00.560]  And somebody just did, I don't know what or why or how,
[53:00.560 --> 53:02.560]  but they didn't do it properly.
[53:02.560 --> 53:09.560]  And I'm wondering how many other state agencies may be out there that are
[53:09.560 --> 53:12.560]  operating that weren't legally established.
[53:12.560 --> 53:14.560]  Oh, that's interesting.
[53:14.560 --> 53:17.560]  That's why, that's as much, that's what triggered me.
[53:17.560 --> 53:20.560]  I'm willing to bet you the majority of them,
[53:20.560 --> 53:22.560]  even if they are lawfully established,
[53:22.560 --> 53:26.560]  are not operating under the strict rules that they were given to operate by.
[53:26.560 --> 53:28.560]  They've expanded them of their own accord.
[53:28.560 --> 53:34.560]  If that's a particular interest to you in your saying that,
[53:34.560 --> 53:40.560]  it brought two words to my mind, quitam.
[53:40.560 --> 53:43.560]  Are you familiar with quitam?
[53:43.560 --> 53:47.560]  I have heard that before and no, I don't know, remember exactly where, why or how.
[53:47.560 --> 53:50.560]  This is what a quitam action is.
[53:50.560 --> 54:01.560]  If any company or governmental agency is wasting or misusing federal funds,
[54:01.560 --> 54:08.560]  anyone can file a quitam action against them to recover the misused funds.
[54:08.560 --> 54:14.560]  So if an agency is receiving funds to perform some duty or service,
[54:14.560 --> 54:18.560]  and they're acting outside the limits of their authority,
[54:18.560 --> 54:21.560]  then they're misusing the funds, you can go in and sue them.
[54:21.560 --> 54:27.560]  If you sue under quitam and the government chooses not to participate,
[54:27.560 --> 54:33.560]  then whatever you recover for the government, you keep 25%.
[54:33.560 --> 54:37.560]  If the government chooses to participate, and they can,
[54:37.560 --> 54:39.560]  once you initiate a quitam action,
[54:39.560 --> 54:43.560]  the government can come in and take over the quitam action.
[54:43.560 --> 54:47.560]  And you essentially are moved to second chair,
[54:47.560 --> 54:51.560]  but you're still second chair because you have a monetary interest.
[54:51.560 --> 54:55.560]  Then if you win, I think you get either 10% or 15%.
[54:55.560 --> 54:58.560]  That could turn into a lot of fun.
[54:58.560 --> 55:01.560]  And then at that point, as second chair,
[55:01.560 --> 55:06.560]  you would have standing to be able to make sure that the first chair did their job right.
[55:06.560 --> 55:08.560]  Precisely.
[55:08.560 --> 55:13.560]  Okay, so this is now just a tangent going off here.
[55:13.560 --> 55:17.560]  And it goes to these maritime liens, not knowing anything about it,
[55:17.560 --> 55:25.560]  but what I've heard from all these people in the Agenda 21 guys over the last maybe two months or so.
[55:25.560 --> 55:33.560]  International law, possibly bankruptcy law, and maybe, if not that, something like what you just said,
[55:33.560 --> 55:39.560]  could there be applications in other areas besides U.S. case law?
[55:39.560 --> 55:43.560]  Because I understand maritime is not just case law,
[55:43.560 --> 55:48.560]  but it's also case law and actual regulation law.
[55:48.560 --> 55:49.560]  Okay.
[55:49.560 --> 55:51.560]  All law is that way.
[55:51.560 --> 55:52.560]  Okay.
[55:52.560 --> 55:58.560]  But case law and, well, case law and statutory law.
[55:58.560 --> 56:05.560]  But maritime is more convoluted than just regular civil or criminal procedure.
[56:05.560 --> 56:14.560]  One of the primary things maritime does is there are no jury trials in the maritime courts.
[56:14.560 --> 56:16.560]  Because it's all admiralty.
[56:16.560 --> 56:17.560]  It's all admiralty.
[56:17.560 --> 56:19.560]  There's no jury.
[56:19.560 --> 56:21.560]  It's good to be king.
[56:21.560 --> 56:23.560]  It's good to be king.
[56:23.560 --> 56:31.560]  But there are problems with, well, the maritime still actually exists.
[56:31.560 --> 56:36.560]  It's been combined with the statutory law.
[56:36.560 --> 56:39.560]  I'm still trying to sort this out.
[56:39.560 --> 56:43.560]  What I've gotten from the people who are promoting maritime,
[56:43.560 --> 56:47.560]  I've never heard of mention this part, that the two have been combined.
[56:47.560 --> 56:57.560]  In looking at the case law, the courts seem very clear that maritime goes to navigable waters.
[56:57.560 --> 57:01.560]  I'll give you an example, International Jet v. something or other.
[57:01.560 --> 57:09.560]  Jets taking off from an airport, picks up some birds in the intakes, shuts down the engine.
[57:09.560 --> 57:12.560]  They drop the plane in Lake Erie.
[57:12.560 --> 57:21.560]  They tried to sue under maritime because maritime gives you a lien that's first in line first in time.
[57:21.560 --> 57:33.560]  But the court said no, that the tort occurred over the land, in the air above the land, but over the land.
[57:33.560 --> 57:36.560]  At the impact where the birds went into the...
[57:36.560 --> 57:37.560]  Exactly.
[57:37.560 --> 57:43.560]  That's where the tort was created, not where the plane happened to land, happened to set down by.
[57:43.560 --> 57:45.560]  It was simply happenstance.
[57:45.560 --> 57:49.560]  The tort occurred over land, and this is the thing about in the air.
[57:49.560 --> 57:54.560]  And therefore, the tort did not ring in maritime.
[57:54.560 --> 57:57.560]  It rung in statutory.
[57:57.560 --> 58:02.560]  So, I'm not getting this from the people in...
[58:02.560 --> 58:09.560]  Yeah, and the other thing, I mean, also there's got to be something where it goes to the finance,
[58:09.560 --> 58:15.560]  and the finance, and that gentleman that came on last week, I think maybe Friday,
[58:15.560 --> 58:18.560]  because I think I ended up, I listened to your archives this weekend.
[58:18.560 --> 58:22.560]  But the guy that knew all that information about the bonds, is that correct?
[58:22.560 --> 58:23.560]  Yes.
[58:23.560 --> 58:24.560]  Paul.
[58:24.560 --> 58:27.560]  That gentleman may know something, or somebody of his stature,
[58:27.560 --> 58:33.560]  of how this finance is applying to maritime that I'm missing.
[58:33.560 --> 58:36.560]  I can't find it. It doesn't appear to me.
[58:36.560 --> 58:38.560]  People are trying to claim it does.
[58:38.560 --> 58:42.560]  They're saying, contract rings in maritime, I can't find it.
[58:42.560 --> 58:44.560]  And the courts are saying, no, it doesn't.
[58:44.560 --> 58:46.560]  Okay, we're about to go break.
[58:46.560 --> 58:48.560]  That's good, and I'll talk to you guys later, thanks.
[58:48.560 --> 58:49.560]  Okay, thank you.
[58:49.560 --> 58:52.560]  Thank you.
[58:52.560 --> 59:20.560]  All right, this is Rule of All Radio, and we'll be back in just a few moments.
[59:22.560 --> 59:25.560]  We'll be right back.
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[01:00:32.560 --> 01:00:54.160]  This is rule of law radio with Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens and Eddie Craig. We're back on the air.
[01:00:54.160 --> 01:01:10.160]  Randy, we're going to take Russ as the next caller, I believe. That would be Babyface Mortland. Russ, are you there?
[01:01:10.160 --> 01:01:19.160]  Hey, what's up? Hey, Russell. So Eddie got to see you in action for three or four days. Yeah, for a couple up there.
[01:01:19.160 --> 01:01:32.160]  He took my car keys. Several times. I don't blame him. I was going to call him and suggest that, but then when he said he did that, I figured he was like me. I wanted to get home, too.
[01:01:32.160 --> 01:01:42.160]  Yeah, you know, I've seen this kind of activity for folks before. I know what can happen on the other side of it. So I was being, you know, the good boy scout.
[01:01:42.160 --> 01:01:57.160]  Yeah, Russell's been to court with me before. Not because of you. That's the good thing. Matter of fact, I asked the police to arrest the clerk when I was there with Russell.
[01:01:57.160 --> 01:02:16.160]  Remember that, Russell? Yeah, Waco. Oh, you mean Waco? You pulled that stunt in Waco? I did it with when Russell was there in Hays County. Right. Yeah, Russell got blamed for all the shenanigans that he stirred up.
[01:02:16.160 --> 01:02:21.160]  Russell got called to another hearing and got blamed for everything.
[01:02:21.160 --> 01:02:40.160]  I'll teach you to duck sooner, Russell. But, you know, it's kind of amazing to watch him in action and see the command of respect that he gets, even though these people want to, you know, bite his head off and destroy him and everything else.
[01:02:40.160 --> 01:02:54.160]  So, I mean, he still commands the respect. Well, if you could have seen this DA, he was anything but a respectable individual. If he had have fallen down walking up to the counter, he'd have rocked himself to sleep trying to get back up.
[01:02:54.160 --> 01:03:07.160]  And then on top of that, he was short enough, when he got up to the counter, he couldn't hear Randy through the glass, so he surreptitiously put the heel of both hands up on it and rocked up onto his hands so he could get close to the glass to hear Randy.
[01:03:07.160 --> 01:03:16.160]  His feet wouldn't touch the floor. He made quite a sight, kind of like a diminutive Santa without the beard and suit.
[01:03:16.160 --> 01:03:30.160]  I thought Waco was best when the actual DA came out, and Randy said he was going to make this request, and the DA started saying, well, we don't have to abide by, you know, Texas open records and things like that.
[01:03:30.160 --> 01:03:41.160]  And he goes, well, this is a 1730 request. But this guy had never even ever heard of that. He had to go get the damn book to read it to know what the hell Randy was talking about.
[01:03:41.160 --> 01:03:53.160]  Well, that's what I was saying a while ago about the jurisdiction area stuff. If you study that and do your own reading and research, you'll know as much as 80 to 90 percent of these guys do because they certainly don't spend any time reading.
[01:03:53.160 --> 01:03:57.160]  They've got it all by word of mouth, not function of brains.
[01:03:57.160 --> 01:04:12.160]  I like this guy in Waco. He was tall. He was an older guy. And I told him about 1730, directing the magistrate to seal all the documents in an envelope, put his name across the seal of the envelope, send it to the clerk of the court.
[01:04:12.160 --> 01:04:22.160]  And I said, I checked the clerk of the court, and the records are not there. So somebody's got them. And whoever has them has them to the exclusion of the clerk of the court.
[01:04:22.160 --> 01:04:37.160]  And that's a felony in Texas. Tell me, do you have those documents? And he says, oh, no, no, no, no. Oh, we wouldn't do a thing like that. Oh, absolutely not. Liar. He did have them.
[01:04:37.160 --> 01:04:47.160]  He had them. He knew he had them. And he knew that I knew he had them. But he handled himself real well. Oh, no, we would never do a thing like that.
[01:04:47.160 --> 01:04:57.160]  I appreciated him. And he never lost his cool either. He didn't do like this guy in Randall County played. I'm big and bad and you're a chump.
[01:04:57.160 --> 01:05:06.160]  It just seems to me like when these people get elected and they come into this office and these offices and they say, well, I'm going to do things the way I want to do them.
[01:05:06.160 --> 01:05:15.160]  They don't bother to check the law to see if they're violating the law or anything else. They don't even bother to learn the law before they even want to get elected into the office.
[01:05:15.160 --> 01:05:19.160]  I think that's the reason why this thing has gotten so screwed up.
[01:05:19.160 --> 01:05:29.160]  Yeah, you would think one of the prerequisites for becoming a county attorney or district attorney would be that you've actually read the law. But no.
[01:05:29.160 --> 01:05:37.160]  What? They have to take an intelligence test. But if they pass it, they can't run.
[01:05:37.160 --> 01:05:45.160]  Anyway, enough ad hominem attacks on these poor, misunderstood prosecutors.
[01:05:45.160 --> 01:05:54.160]  Well, it doesn't have to be prosecutors. It could be anybody. And that's why everything is so controlled against us.
[01:05:54.160 --> 01:06:00.160]  You can't get to the damn grand juries and stuff until you start using Randy's methods and stuff.
[01:06:00.160 --> 01:06:08.160]  And because that puts them in liability and they don't want the liability. So you finally get before the grand jury.
[01:06:08.160 --> 01:06:14.160]  This is really where we have a very strong power over them.
[01:06:14.160 --> 01:06:22.160]  This prosecuting attorney is looking at me ruining his career and I could care less about him.
[01:06:22.160 --> 01:06:27.160]  As far as I'm concerned, he's cannon fodder.
[01:06:27.160 --> 01:06:39.160]  So I think my remarks about the maritime is about to get me clobbered. Our board is really stacking up.
[01:06:39.160 --> 01:06:42.160]  Yeah, I imagine so.
[01:06:42.160 --> 01:06:55.160]  People that get the jurisprudence, they get a couple steps ahead and they learn how to approach this stuff when it comes to all the court procedures and motions and everything else.
[01:06:55.160 --> 01:07:04.160]  But there's something else that I love and I like to watch because there's so many things that are exposed on that program.
[01:07:04.160 --> 01:07:14.160]  And it's the old program called JAG, what the judge advocate general was on for nine years.
[01:07:14.160 --> 01:07:23.160]  That program, when I first started learning a lot about the law, taught me so much about the law and how the procedures went in court.
[01:07:23.160 --> 01:07:30.160]  And that's supposed to be a maritime court. But yet it's identical to our court system, the way it operates.
[01:07:30.160 --> 01:07:36.160]  Yeah, maritime will be identical because all of it runs under the rules of civil procedure now.
[01:07:36.160 --> 01:07:47.160]  Right. But I mean, you learn about motions and limiting, you learn about the rules of the court, what's admittable, what's not, because they have all those kind of arguments all the time.
[01:07:47.160 --> 01:07:55.160]  Oh, I got a recording every day. I mean, there's two shows come out every day on FX or something like that.
[01:07:55.160 --> 01:08:04.160]  And I watch every one of them because it brings back memories of like, damn, I remember that, motion and limiting.
[01:08:04.160 --> 01:08:11.160]  Because the guy filed motion and limiting and then this guy turns around and gets up there and brings it up into court.
[01:08:11.160 --> 01:08:19.160]  And he jumps up and says, Your Honor, this motion and limiting file, you know, this is wrong. You know, they explain all that kind of stuff.
[01:08:19.160 --> 01:08:26.160]  And that is also very helpful. And they go through the rules and they go through the procedures for discovery and all that.
[01:08:26.160 --> 01:08:34.160]  For those who are wondering, a motion and limiting is a motion that has all of the questions the other side is forbidden to ask.
[01:08:34.160 --> 01:08:41.160]  I got a 20-page motion and limiting. And it is a hoot.
[01:08:41.160 --> 01:08:56.160]  If you say like you got a DWI case and you successfully get the judge to grant your motion and limiting saying that he cannot refer to anything about a DWI, then the other party cannot bring up DWI whatsoever.
[01:08:56.160 --> 01:09:05.160]  Right. I was in a motion, in a hearing on my limiting motion. And my limiting motion has everything in it.
[01:09:05.160 --> 01:09:17.160]  And the judge said, You're requesting that no questions be raised about any hypnotic interviews.
[01:09:17.160 --> 01:09:20.160]  Mr. Kelton, were you hypnotized?
[01:09:20.160 --> 01:09:26.160]  Well, I don't know, Judge. Ask him. You know how they make you forget all that kind of stuff.
[01:09:26.160 --> 01:09:31.160]  The judge was not happy. But he had to go through the whole motion.
[01:09:31.160 --> 01:09:32.160]  Right.
[01:09:32.160 --> 01:09:44.160]  It was a hoot. It's good to know what all these are. Eliminy, Brady, rule of witnesses. It's called invoking the rule. Anyway, that's a whole lot of them.
[01:09:44.160 --> 01:09:53.160]  The one I actually like is when they try to make a motion excluding the actual law you're being charged with from being brought up in the case.
[01:09:53.160 --> 01:09:56.160]  Right. Okay. Talk to you later.
[01:09:56.160 --> 01:10:03.160]  Okay. Thank you, Russell. Okay. We're going to go to Mark in Wisconsin.
[01:10:03.160 --> 01:10:06.160]  Hello. Is this the Eddie Craig Show?
[01:10:06.160 --> 01:10:08.160]  The who? Eddie who?
[01:10:08.160 --> 01:10:09.160]  Is this the Eddie Craig Show?
[01:10:09.160 --> 01:10:13.160]  No, it's not the Eddie Craig Show, but he is a partaker from time to time. What can we do for you?
[01:10:13.160 --> 01:10:17.160]  You know, Randy, that kind of makes you the Ed McMahon.
[01:10:17.160 --> 01:10:22.160]  Yeah, it kind of does. The comic relief.
[01:10:22.160 --> 01:10:24.160]  Yeah.
[01:10:24.160 --> 01:10:27.160]  I thought that was my job.
[01:10:27.160 --> 01:10:35.160]  Hey, Randy, I got a brother. He's going to family court. And granted, he did come out of the shallow end of the gene pool.
[01:10:35.160 --> 01:10:42.160]  And he does have a face for radio like you fellas. But I like to look out for him.
[01:10:42.160 --> 01:10:49.160]  Anyway, he's in court and the judge is ordering him to pay $500 to opposing counsel.
[01:10:49.160 --> 01:10:53.160]  And the opposing counsel says they're going to pay it into the fund for child support.
[01:10:53.160 --> 01:10:55.160]  Now we've been looking for a way to hang these guys.
[01:10:55.160 --> 01:11:01.160]  Should we hand them a personal check and then get them somehow for that?
[01:11:01.160 --> 01:11:02.160]  I don't know.
[01:11:02.160 --> 01:11:10.160]  I would think that if the personal check is valid and they convert the funds and put it into child support,
[01:11:10.160 --> 01:11:15.160]  I don't see how you could get a shot at them.
[01:11:15.160 --> 01:11:23.160]  Well, I'm wondering why the check would go to opposing counsel. I mean, that seems a little strange.
[01:11:23.160 --> 01:11:29.160]  Is opposing counsel the state? Is this a state action to collect child support?
[01:11:29.160 --> 01:11:39.160]  No, he's working for my brother's girlfriend who's got the child.
[01:11:39.160 --> 01:11:42.160]  But it's not state's counsel that's representing her?
[01:11:42.160 --> 01:11:44.160]  No. No, it's private counsel.
[01:11:44.160 --> 01:11:51.160]  Then most likely she's either signed a power of attorney for him to manage the funds
[01:11:51.160 --> 01:11:55.160]  or they've got an agreement where he gets first shot at the funds before they go to her.
[01:11:55.160 --> 01:12:04.160]  Well, in the order it says he's going to turn it over to the SDU, which I'm guessing is the agency that handles the funds.
[01:12:04.160 --> 01:12:14.160]  That's certainly something you could put in a motion for discovery on in order to audit the books of both the attorney
[01:12:14.160 --> 01:12:21.160]  and the other side to make sure he actually distributed the funds the way he was required to.
[01:12:21.160 --> 01:12:28.160]  And that'll open the door to auditing his books. That'll make him crazy.
[01:12:28.160 --> 01:12:36.160]  But unless he does something inappropriate with the funds, like applies it to his fee,
[01:12:36.160 --> 01:12:49.160]  then I don't see anything that would be beyond the scope of the power of the judge.
[01:12:49.160 --> 01:12:53.160]  Did your brother lose the case, by the way?
[01:12:53.160 --> 01:13:00.160]  Well, yeah. I mean, at 16, he probably got to see him five times. I would say that he lost the case, yeah.
[01:13:00.160 --> 01:13:04.160]  So is the case over or is it still in progress?
[01:13:04.160 --> 01:13:10.160]  Actually, the court keeps calling him back and telling him come back in two weeks with 500 bucks
[01:13:10.160 --> 01:13:13.160]  or we're going to throw him in jail.
[01:13:13.160 --> 01:13:17.160]  Another 500 or the same 500?
[01:13:17.160 --> 01:13:20.160]  Another 500. So he's in perpetual threat of jail.
[01:13:20.160 --> 01:13:25.160]  That's why I'm wondering, because they're threatening for him to go to jail or pay opposing counsel,
[01:13:25.160 --> 01:13:28.160]  which the counsel says he's going to pay to somebody else.
[01:13:28.160 --> 01:13:38.160]  Okay, yeah. He should audit opposing counsel's books for one thing, but this sounds kind of odd.
[01:13:38.160 --> 01:13:43.160]  Yeah. Has there been a final ruling in the case?
[01:13:43.160 --> 01:13:49.160]  Yeah. He owes like $5,000 in back child support.
[01:13:49.160 --> 01:13:52.160]  That explains it. Okay.
[01:13:52.160 --> 01:13:59.160]  What were the terms of the settlement on paying the behind amount?
[01:13:59.160 --> 01:14:05.160]  There are no terms. Like the town he lives in, there's barely any work.
[01:14:05.160 --> 01:14:14.160]  So the terms were that he was bringing affidavit to court to say that he applied for 10 jobs in between when he's not working.
[01:14:14.160 --> 01:14:22.160]  And what happened is he went to court one day and he didn't take the affidavit because he was working for me at the time.
[01:14:22.160 --> 01:14:27.160]  Well, they called that contempt of court because he didn't bring the affidavit.
[01:14:27.160 --> 01:14:36.160]  So now they're saying he's in contempt every time he goes to court, and if he doesn't bring $500, he's going to jail.
[01:14:36.160 --> 01:14:44.160]  Oh, this judge can do that unless you demand a hearing on the contempt charge.
[01:14:44.160 --> 01:14:48.160]  Oh, that's a good idea because why would he still be in contempt?
[01:14:48.160 --> 01:14:50.160]  Yeah, demand a hearing on the contempt charge.
[01:14:50.160 --> 01:14:59.160]  If he had reason for not bringing the 10 applications if he's working, it kind of makes applications moot.
[01:14:59.160 --> 01:15:03.160]  Right, right. And they keep telling him to come back every two weeks.
[01:15:03.160 --> 01:15:10.160]  Now, this attorney he's dealing with, he calls him all kinds of names in court when they were having the custody battle
[01:15:10.160 --> 01:15:15.160]  and he's offering up testimony and he's counsel.
[01:15:15.160 --> 01:15:23.160]  And I was wondering what kind of bar grievance that he could file against him just to smack him around a little bit.
[01:15:23.160 --> 01:15:29.160]  File a bar grievance against him for being a jerk, for parting his hair on the wrong side,
[01:15:29.160 --> 01:15:34.160]  professional misconduct, for disparaging him.
[01:15:34.160 --> 01:15:40.160]  Yeah, you can file a bar grievance for just about anything and it still gets added up, right?
[01:15:40.160 --> 01:15:46.160]  Right. The bar is going to throw it out whether it's valid or not.
[01:15:46.160 --> 01:15:51.160]  But make sure you file them separate and at different times.
[01:15:51.160 --> 01:15:59.160]  Dale in Minnesota filed 15 and the bar treated them as if they were one.
[01:15:59.160 --> 01:16:05.160]  What I'm wondering is if his insurance company treated him as one.
[01:16:05.160 --> 01:16:11.160]  And so what we're going to do is get her to find out what insurance companies do,
[01:16:11.160 --> 01:16:18.160]  malpractice insurance in Minnesota and send them all a copy of all 15.
[01:16:18.160 --> 01:16:26.160]  So what's likely to happen to the attorney if she didn't report all 15 and Dale sends them all 15,
[01:16:26.160 --> 01:16:30.160]  they'll cancel her malpractice insurance immediately.
[01:16:30.160 --> 01:16:31.160]  All right.
[01:16:31.160 --> 01:16:33.160]  There's a chance of that.
[01:16:33.160 --> 01:16:35.160]  Okay, you have any more questions?
[01:16:35.160 --> 01:16:36.160]  We're about to go to break.
[01:16:36.160 --> 01:16:38.160]  You want to hang on to the next slide?
[01:16:38.160 --> 01:16:39.160]  Yeah, thanks.
[01:16:39.160 --> 01:16:41.160]  Okay, we're about to go to break.
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[01:18:26.160 --> 01:18:29.160]  Mark, do you have any more questions?
[01:18:29.160 --> 01:18:31.160]  Yeah, how do you file a motion of audit?
[01:18:31.160 --> 01:18:32.160]  That's another thing, too.
[01:18:32.160 --> 01:18:33.160]  They ignore all his motions.
[01:18:33.160 --> 01:18:35.160]  And I said, well, is it a court of record?
[01:18:35.160 --> 01:18:36.160]  No.
[01:18:36.160 --> 01:18:39.160]  I said, well, then you're going to have to start filing them with the clerk.
[01:18:39.160 --> 01:18:40.160]  Wait a minute.
[01:18:40.160 --> 01:18:42.160]  How can it not be a court of record?
[01:18:42.160 --> 01:18:44.160]  They're not recording anything.
[01:18:44.160 --> 01:18:47.160]  I mean, the only thing they record are the judge's orders.
[01:18:47.160 --> 01:18:49.160]  Wait a minute.
[01:18:49.160 --> 01:18:55.160]  It's got to be at least a county court, and most likely it's a district court.
[01:18:55.160 --> 01:18:57.160]  It's got to have a court reporter present.
[01:18:57.160 --> 01:19:00.160]  Well, I need a motion for a court reporter.
[01:19:00.160 --> 01:19:01.160]  They're not recording anything.
[01:19:01.160 --> 01:19:02.160]  Okay.
[01:19:02.160 --> 01:19:10.160]  When you file a motion, nothing happens unless you either petition the court directly
[01:19:10.160 --> 01:19:17.160]  or petition the court coordinator or the judge's clerk or whoever handles the judge's calendar
[01:19:17.160 --> 01:19:21.160]  to put the motion on for hearing.
[01:19:21.160 --> 01:19:28.160]  So you need to send a letter to the court requesting that the motion be put on for hearing
[01:19:28.160 --> 01:19:32.160]  at the next sitting of the court for motion hearings.
[01:19:32.160 --> 01:19:37.160]  Generally, a court will sit once a week just to hear motions.
[01:19:37.160 --> 01:19:39.160]  You have to put them on for hearing.
[01:19:39.160 --> 01:19:47.160]  And then if the court is not hearing your motions, file a motion for writ of mandamus
[01:19:47.160 --> 01:19:51.160]  to the next higher court to force the court to hear your motions.
[01:19:51.160 --> 01:19:53.160]  Yeah, I told them that.
[01:19:53.160 --> 01:19:57.160]  Hey, Randy, with my case, I'm going to be suing this municipality in about two months.
[01:19:57.160 --> 01:20:01.160]  I was wondering what kind of FOIA requests I can send in there just to rattle their cage.
[01:20:01.160 --> 01:20:04.160]  I like to keep these guys on pins and needles.
[01:20:04.160 --> 01:20:05.160]  Have you sent them to the toilet?
[01:20:05.160 --> 01:20:09.160]  I'm sweating them like they sweat an ex-convict.
[01:20:09.160 --> 01:20:10.160]  You dig me?
[01:20:10.160 --> 01:20:12.160]  Yes.
[01:20:12.160 --> 01:20:14.160]  Have you sent them a tort letter?
[01:20:14.160 --> 01:20:15.160]  Yes, I have.
[01:20:15.160 --> 01:20:17.160]  Good.
[01:20:17.160 --> 01:20:21.160]  Have you lined out all of the causes of action?
[01:20:21.160 --> 01:20:25.160]  Yeah, I just want to go with one cause of action because I'm an amateur
[01:20:25.160 --> 01:20:29.160]  and I don't want to clear about 10 bars, you know what I'm saying?
[01:20:29.160 --> 01:20:31.160]  Oh, put in more than one.
[01:20:31.160 --> 01:20:34.160]  Put in every cause of action you can.
[01:20:34.160 --> 01:20:35.160]  Go ahead.
[01:20:35.160 --> 01:20:38.160]  Yeah, make sure you know what the elements of each cause are that has to be proven
[01:20:38.160 --> 01:20:41.160]  because if you miss one, the whole thing falls apart.
[01:20:41.160 --> 01:20:44.160]  Now, remember, Randy, this is a municipality, too,
[01:20:44.160 --> 01:20:49.160]  and they say they're immune from a lot of these civil suits,
[01:20:49.160 --> 01:20:54.160]  and you said since they use a city card to kidnap my son, there's a way around that.
[01:20:54.160 --> 01:20:57.160]  You know what part of the law I would look for for that?
[01:20:57.160 --> 01:21:06.160]  I don't know what it is in Wisconsin law, but in Texas, it's Texas civil torts and remedies.
[01:21:06.160 --> 01:21:09.160]  But every state has it.
[01:21:09.160 --> 01:21:20.160]  If the city has a street sweeper and the driver of the street sweeper runs over your car,
[01:21:20.160 --> 01:21:23.160]  you can sue the city for it.
[01:21:23.160 --> 01:21:25.160]  They waive their sovereign immunity for that.
[01:21:25.160 --> 01:21:26.160]  Right, right.
[01:21:26.160 --> 01:21:30.160]  Because a city employee caused a tort against you
[01:21:30.160 --> 01:21:34.160]  while operating a piece of city-owned motorized equipment.
[01:21:34.160 --> 01:21:36.160]  That's almost a standard.
[01:21:36.160 --> 01:21:40.160]  But there are other reasons you can sue the city.
[01:21:40.160 --> 01:21:50.160]  If the judge abused his discretion or failed to, I'm sorry, abused a ministerial duty,
[01:21:50.160 --> 01:21:55.160]  failed to apply the law to the facts, he can be sued.
[01:21:55.160 --> 01:21:58.160]  Let me point out, she's ugly, too.
[01:21:58.160 --> 01:22:00.160]  That makes it easier.
[01:22:00.160 --> 01:22:05.160]  Now, the other part is if they committed a criminal act under color of law,
[01:22:05.160 --> 01:22:08.160]  as if it was their duty, they're also subject to tort action.
[01:22:08.160 --> 01:22:09.160]  Yes, they did.
[01:22:09.160 --> 01:22:15.160]  They were prosecuting my son with no jurisdiction.
[01:22:15.160 --> 01:22:19.160]  No jurisdiction, no immunity of any kind.
[01:22:19.160 --> 01:22:27.160]  Okay, you remember that, Randy, the prosecuting attorney said right in court.
[01:22:27.160 --> 01:22:30.160]  Yeah, I just brought this up the other day.
[01:22:30.160 --> 01:22:34.160]  The prosecutor came in court and said, we don't have any jurisdiction, Judge.
[01:22:34.160 --> 01:22:36.160]  Duh!
[01:22:36.160 --> 01:22:38.160]  So you bought it?
[01:22:38.160 --> 01:22:41.160]  Let's proceed anyway, okay?
[01:22:41.160 --> 01:22:49.160]  The first thing you want to do is address their immunity.
[01:22:49.160 --> 01:22:56.160]  It's not what you can prove up in court that keeps the case alive.
[01:22:56.160 --> 01:22:58.160]  It's what you plead.
[01:22:58.160 --> 01:23:14.160]  If you plead that the city is without subject matter jurisdiction for whatever reason it is,
[01:23:14.160 --> 01:23:17.160]  it doesn't matter if you can prove it or not.
[01:23:17.160 --> 01:23:21.160]  You plead it, and they're going to say, well, that's not true.
[01:23:21.160 --> 01:23:28.160]  That leaves a material fact in controversy, so there can be no summary judgment.
[01:23:28.160 --> 01:23:30.160]  That's how you beat summary judgment.
[01:23:30.160 --> 01:23:34.160]  So make absolutely sure you plead out your jurisdiction first.
[01:23:34.160 --> 01:23:39.160]  Okay, and what kind of FOIAs would give them fits down there?
[01:23:39.160 --> 01:23:42.160]  Oh, I'd have to look at the case.
[01:23:42.160 --> 01:23:46.160]  What kind of information are they not going to want to tell you?
[01:23:46.160 --> 01:23:50.160]  How many other cases have they done like this?
[01:23:50.160 --> 01:23:55.160]  How many due process violations did they create?
[01:23:55.160 --> 01:24:00.160]  I've got seven due process violations.
[01:24:00.160 --> 01:24:03.160]  If you can find where they did something improper.
[01:24:03.160 --> 01:24:05.160]  Seven.
[01:24:05.160 --> 01:24:11.160]  And find that they do this same improper thing as a matter of course.
[01:24:11.160 --> 01:24:12.160]  They do.
[01:24:12.160 --> 01:24:14.160]  They're right by a high school.
[01:24:14.160 --> 01:24:18.160]  Okay, that goes to policy in the Monell sense.
[01:24:18.160 --> 01:24:28.160]  Monell, when a policy adopted by the city or the municipality is in violation of law, they have no immunity.
[01:24:28.160 --> 01:24:31.160]  If that's the case, if you know they've done this multiple times,
[01:24:31.160 --> 01:24:35.160]  all you should have to do is just do a FOIA request for all of the records,
[01:24:35.160 --> 01:24:39.160]  and you could probably get them without it considering these are public records,
[01:24:39.160 --> 01:24:46.160]  but you could get records from all the other cases that show they committed the same act multiple times for the same purpose.
[01:24:46.160 --> 01:24:50.160]  And that would establish Monell, M-O-N-E-L-L.
[01:24:50.160 --> 01:24:52.160]  And Monell is standard.
[01:24:52.160 --> 01:24:55.160]  Every city knows Monell frontwards and backwards.
[01:24:55.160 --> 01:24:58.160]  Oh, that's a painting, right?
[01:24:58.160 --> 01:25:01.160]  No, that's a painter.
[01:25:01.160 --> 01:25:04.160]  Hey, and if that doesn't work, I'm going to take a kiddie pool in there.
[01:25:04.160 --> 01:25:06.160]  I'm going to put a couple inches of water in there.
[01:25:06.160 --> 01:25:08.160]  I'm going to say, watch it, Judge.
[01:25:08.160 --> 01:25:10.160]  I'm in maritime law.
[01:25:10.160 --> 01:25:12.160]  I'll lien your bond.
[01:25:12.160 --> 01:25:17.160]  We've got to put some salt in it.
[01:25:17.160 --> 01:25:23.160]  Or just go dip some out of Lake Michigan if it doesn't stink too bad.
[01:25:23.160 --> 01:25:25.160]  Okay, we need to move along.
[01:25:25.160 --> 01:25:26.160]  We've got lots of callers.
[01:25:26.160 --> 01:25:27.160]  Have a good night.
[01:25:27.160 --> 01:25:28.160]  Bye-bye.
[01:25:28.160 --> 01:25:30.160]  Okay, thanks for calling, Mark.
[01:25:30.160 --> 01:25:35.160]  Okay, now we're going to Doug in Texas.
[01:25:35.160 --> 01:25:36.160]  Steve.
[01:25:36.160 --> 01:25:38.160]  No, Doug was, which one was next?
[01:25:38.160 --> 01:25:39.160]  Steve was next.
[01:25:39.160 --> 01:25:41.160]  John's before Doug.
[01:25:41.160 --> 01:25:43.160]  Okay.
[01:25:43.160 --> 01:25:44.160]  Deborah's not here tonight.
[01:25:44.160 --> 01:25:46.160]  I'm screwing it up again.
[01:25:46.160 --> 01:25:47.160]  Steve, you there?
[01:25:47.160 --> 01:25:49.160]  Yes, sir.
[01:25:49.160 --> 01:25:50.160]  Am I on?
[01:25:50.160 --> 01:25:51.160]  Yes, sir.
[01:25:51.160 --> 01:25:53.160]  Tell us you've got good news.
[01:25:53.160 --> 01:25:55.160]  Well, I don't know.
[01:25:55.160 --> 01:25:59.160]  I don't know if I've got good news or not.
[01:25:59.160 --> 01:26:01.160]  I may have boogered up, as a matter of fact.
[01:26:01.160 --> 01:26:03.160]  I was going to ask you.
[01:26:03.160 --> 01:26:09.160]  I called you earlier, Randy, that Deborah said to call you and see if you had
[01:26:09.160 --> 01:26:17.160]  had your O'Connor's Causes of Action book somewhere because you couldn't find it.
[01:26:17.160 --> 01:26:19.160]  I've got it with me.
[01:26:19.160 --> 01:26:20.160]  You've got it with you.
[01:26:20.160 --> 01:26:22.160]  But Russell's got one.
[01:26:22.160 --> 01:26:24.160]  Okay, that's all right.
[01:26:24.160 --> 01:26:26.160]  We can deal with that later.
[01:26:26.160 --> 01:26:30.160]  Russell's got a brand new one, and I'm sure he'll make it available to you.
[01:26:30.160 --> 01:26:35.160]  You spent 270 bucks on that thing there, Russell.
[01:26:35.160 --> 01:26:40.160]  Yeah, I looked it up online today, or the wife did, and they don't give those things away.
[01:26:40.160 --> 01:26:51.160]  Anyway, the question I've got for you, Randy, is I filed my suit in Travis County
[01:26:51.160 --> 01:26:53.160]  District Court.
[01:26:53.160 --> 01:26:57.160]  Now, this is something I thought about.
[01:26:57.160 --> 01:27:00.160]  I may have filed this in the wrong court because of the mortgage issue.
[01:27:00.160 --> 01:27:09.160]  The contract, or the alleged contract, is a matter over $75,000.
[01:27:09.160 --> 01:27:11.160]  The district can handle that.
[01:27:11.160 --> 01:27:13.160]  Yeah, that's okay.
[01:27:13.160 --> 01:27:17.160]  $75,000 doesn't necessarily put it in the federal jurisdiction.
[01:27:17.160 --> 01:27:20.160]  You have to have diversity of jurisdiction.
[01:27:20.160 --> 01:27:21.160]  Okay.
[01:27:21.160 --> 01:27:24.160]  I mean, you have to have diversity of litigants.
[01:27:24.160 --> 01:27:31.160]  If the mortgage company has an office and does business in Texas, and you're in Texas,
[01:27:31.160 --> 01:27:33.160]  there's no federal implication.
[01:27:33.160 --> 01:27:36.160]  I see.
[01:27:36.160 --> 01:27:46.160]  So no matter what the amount, the $75,000 only, let's see, that goes to, I think,
[01:27:46.160 --> 01:27:49.160]  change of venue.
[01:27:49.160 --> 01:27:50.160]  Right.
[01:27:50.160 --> 01:27:55.160]  Well, they're out of it.
[01:27:55.160 --> 01:27:59.160]  To federal jurisdiction, you have to be $75,000 controversy.
[01:27:59.160 --> 01:28:00.160]  Yeah.
[01:28:00.160 --> 01:28:01.160]  Something about that.
[01:28:01.160 --> 01:28:04.160]  Anyway, but no, you can sue for any amount in the district court.
[01:28:04.160 --> 01:28:05.160]  Okay.
[01:28:05.160 --> 01:28:06.160]  Okay.
[01:28:06.160 --> 01:28:11.160]  I was wondering if they could move to dismiss for like a subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:28:11.160 --> 01:28:12.160]  Okay, wait.
[01:28:12.160 --> 01:28:16.160]  In my car accident, we sued for a million in this district court.
[01:28:16.160 --> 01:28:20.160]  Okay, I have a concern.
[01:28:20.160 --> 01:28:23.160]  You ask about causes of action.
[01:28:23.160 --> 01:28:24.160]  Yes.
[01:28:24.160 --> 01:28:26.160]  Did you have a causes of action?
[01:28:26.160 --> 01:28:29.160]  Did you file your suit in terms of causes of action?
[01:28:29.160 --> 01:28:30.160]  No, I didn't.
[01:28:30.160 --> 01:28:32.160]  I'm going to have to amend that.
[01:28:32.160 --> 01:28:33.160]  Okay.
[01:28:33.160 --> 01:28:37.160]  Try to get it amended before they move.
[01:28:37.160 --> 01:28:43.160]  If they move to dismiss for lack of a claim on which relief can be had,
[01:28:43.160 --> 01:28:47.160]  I'm going to question the court for leave to amend.
[01:28:47.160 --> 01:28:51.160]  And that will stop the action to dismiss.
[01:28:51.160 --> 01:28:53.160]  They haven't been served yet.
[01:28:53.160 --> 01:28:58.160]  We haven't had process served yet because we can't find a corporate officer to serve.
[01:28:58.160 --> 01:29:01.160]  Oh, well, that's interesting.
[01:29:01.160 --> 01:29:02.160]  Isn't it?
[01:29:02.160 --> 01:29:04.160]  Do they have a corporate address?
[01:29:04.160 --> 01:29:07.160]  They have a corporate address in Miamisburg, Ohio.
[01:29:07.160 --> 01:29:08.160]  Okay.
[01:29:08.160 --> 01:29:10.160]  P.O. Box.
[01:29:10.160 --> 01:29:15.160]  For a present, did you get the mortgage in Texas?
[01:29:15.160 --> 01:29:16.160]  Yes.
[01:29:16.160 --> 01:29:17.160]  What bank did?
[01:29:17.160 --> 01:29:19.160]  Did you get it with a local bank?
[01:29:19.160 --> 01:29:27.160]  No, the mortgage company is a subsidiary company of a national bank.
[01:29:27.160 --> 01:29:37.160]  Okay, then you can serve the subsidiary or move for alternative service.
[01:29:37.160 --> 01:29:39.160]  Okay.
[01:29:39.160 --> 01:29:44.160]  You can serve by publication if you can't find an address on it.
[01:29:44.160 --> 01:29:47.160]  Well, I've got their address, but we've been told that we...
[01:29:47.160 --> 01:29:48.160]  Okay, hold on.
[01:29:48.160 --> 01:29:49.160]  We're about to go to break.
[01:29:49.160 --> 01:29:50.160]  Hang on.
[01:29:50.160 --> 01:29:52.160]  We'll pick this up on the other side.
[01:29:52.160 --> 01:29:53.160]  Okay.
[01:29:53.160 --> 01:29:56.160]  Randy Kelton, David Stevens, Eddie Craig, rule of law.
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[01:31:52.160 --> 01:32:06.160]  Okay, we're back. Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Eddie Craig. Steve, where were we?
[01:32:06.160 --> 01:32:11.160]  We were on jurisdictional issues.
[01:32:11.160 --> 01:32:17.160]  Oh, the thing I was going to try to tell you, and I kept interrupting myself.
[01:32:17.160 --> 01:32:30.160]  If you don't have a causes of action, call around to a few law firms and ask them if they have any old O'Connors, if they've replaced their O'Connors and have some old ones they want to get rid of.
[01:32:30.160 --> 01:32:31.160]  Okay.
[01:32:31.160 --> 01:32:34.160]  You might be able to get a whole set for like 10 bucks a piece.
[01:32:34.160 --> 01:32:36.160]  Oh, wonderful.
[01:32:36.160 --> 01:32:41.160]  Attorneys need new ones every year because it has the latest case law in it.
[01:32:41.160 --> 01:32:42.160]  Sure.
[01:32:42.160 --> 01:32:49.160]  We can get, you know, for causes of action, we're not so concerned about this year or last year.
[01:32:49.160 --> 01:32:50.160]  Right.
[01:32:50.160 --> 01:32:55.160]  It'll give us generally the causes of action, and you read the causes of action, you'll love it.
[01:32:55.160 --> 01:32:58.160]  And while you're at it, see if you can find me one on malpractice.
[01:32:58.160 --> 01:33:00.160]  Okay.
[01:33:00.160 --> 01:33:05.160]  As a matter of fact, I may call a couple malpractice attorneys and see if I can locate one.
[01:33:05.160 --> 01:33:07.160]  Okay, you have any more questions?
[01:33:07.160 --> 01:33:24.160]  Yes, actually, with servicing the mortgage company, I talked with Mike Holloway today, and what he did was service the CFO of his mortgage company.
[01:33:24.160 --> 01:33:26.160]  That's good enough.
[01:33:26.160 --> 01:33:27.160]  Good enough.
[01:33:27.160 --> 01:33:36.160]  Yeah, if the mortgage, you don't care which, as long as this, whoever is, you serve is connected to the company.
[01:33:36.160 --> 01:33:37.160]  Okay.
[01:33:37.160 --> 01:33:43.160]  You're notifying the company, not specifically any individual person.
[01:33:43.160 --> 01:33:45.160]  So the company has constructive notice.
[01:33:45.160 --> 01:33:51.160]  If you serve an individual in the company and he don't give it to his boss, that's the boss's problem.
[01:33:51.160 --> 01:33:53.160]  Gotcha.
[01:33:53.160 --> 01:33:54.160]  Gotcha.
[01:33:54.160 --> 01:33:55.160]  Okay.
[01:33:55.160 --> 01:34:05.160]  And, Eddie, if you're on, Debra gave me your number and suggested that I call you about some other issues that might give me trouble actually going into court.
[01:34:05.160 --> 01:34:06.160]  Okay.
[01:34:06.160 --> 01:34:11.160]  So if you don't mind, I'll call you after the show and give you a brief rundown.
[01:34:11.160 --> 01:34:12.160]  That'll be fine.
[01:34:12.160 --> 01:34:15.160]  I don't know how well my phone's going to work.
[01:34:15.160 --> 01:34:19.160]  We had a little storm through the area today and it cut my signal down to nothing, but you can give it a shot.
[01:34:19.160 --> 01:34:22.160]  If not, I'll try you tomorrow, or you can try me tomorrow.
[01:34:22.160 --> 01:34:23.160]  We'll do it.
[01:34:23.160 --> 01:34:24.160]  All righty.
[01:34:24.160 --> 01:34:25.160]  That's all I got for this evening, folks.
[01:34:25.160 --> 01:34:29.160]  Thank you very much for you, for taking my call, and I'll get off for the next call.
[01:34:29.160 --> 01:34:30.160]  Okay.
[01:34:30.160 --> 01:34:31.160]  Thank you, Steve.
[01:34:31.160 --> 01:34:32.160]  Thank you.
[01:34:32.160 --> 01:34:33.160]  That's John.
[01:34:33.160 --> 01:34:35.160]  Okay.
[01:34:35.160 --> 01:34:36.160]  John from Georgia.
[01:34:36.160 --> 01:34:37.160]  Are you there?
[01:34:37.160 --> 01:34:38.160]  Yes.
[01:34:38.160 --> 01:34:39.160]  How are you doing today?
[01:34:39.160 --> 01:34:41.160]  We're doing pretty good.
[01:34:41.160 --> 01:34:42.160]  Okay.
[01:34:42.160 --> 01:34:44.160]  Well, then you're doing better than I am.
[01:34:44.160 --> 01:34:45.160]  Okay.
[01:34:45.160 --> 01:34:47.160]  What's the deal?
[01:34:47.160 --> 01:34:49.160]  I'm on the losing side this time.
[01:34:49.160 --> 01:34:50.160]  I've done one.
[01:34:50.160 --> 01:34:51.160]  I used your strategy.
[01:34:51.160 --> 01:34:59.160]  I've won in state court three cases, and this time I had a case in what they – this is in Columbus, Georgia, Muskogee County.
[01:34:59.160 --> 01:35:03.160]  They have a court here they call environmental court.
[01:35:03.160 --> 01:35:05.160]  It used to be in recorder's court pretty much.
[01:35:05.160 --> 01:35:08.160]  It's the grass cops, the code enforcement officers come out here,
[01:35:08.160 --> 01:35:13.160]  write you up for your vehicle being a junk vehicle, your grass too tall.
[01:35:13.160 --> 01:35:23.160]  I went to court with one guy, and I ended up winning on his junk vehicles because, like you said, read what all of the –
[01:35:23.160 --> 01:35:29.160]  jeez, now you've got me stumped.
[01:35:29.160 --> 01:35:33.160]  What qualifies the vehicle to be a junk vehicle?
[01:35:33.160 --> 01:35:40.160]  None of the things listed there qualify his vehicle as junk vehicles.
[01:35:40.160 --> 01:35:46.160]  Well, they wanted to come onto his property and go in his backyard behind his fence and take pictures of some cars he had back there.
[01:35:46.160 --> 01:35:49.160]  He said, no, unless you have a warrant, you can't come back here.
[01:35:49.160 --> 01:35:54.160]  So they wrote him a citation for obstruction of justice, and the judge stood on the obstruction of justice
[01:35:54.160 --> 01:35:57.160]  and dropped the charges on the junk vehicle.
[01:35:57.160 --> 01:35:59.160]  Now I'm going to be filing a –
[01:35:59.160 --> 01:36:03.160]  Okay, this is what the case law says.
[01:36:03.160 --> 01:36:12.160]  It is a due process violation of the most basic sort to punish a person for doing what the law clearly allows him to do,
[01:36:12.160 --> 01:36:22.160]  charge the judge with retaliation. I don't know if it's a felony in Georgia or not, but this is retaliation.
[01:36:22.160 --> 01:36:28.160]  Yeah, there's another case that says the exercise of a right cannot be converted into a crime.
[01:36:28.160 --> 01:36:38.160]  I tried to use that in Miranda versus Arizona where rights are concerned, no legislation or rulemaking can be made to abridge them,
[01:36:38.160 --> 01:36:41.160]  where he's got a right to a peaceful ownership of private property.
[01:36:41.160 --> 01:36:46.160]  Okay, that's not really on point. That doesn't go to a rule.
[01:36:46.160 --> 01:36:59.160]  This went to a judicial determination by a court, and this is a court determining that exercising your Fourth Amendment right is a crime.
[01:36:59.160 --> 01:37:06.160]  That goes to the sentence, Ms. Folley. Make up a criminal complaint against the judge.
[01:37:06.160 --> 01:37:10.160]  I tried to do that, and they refused to do it. Even the sheriff refused to do it.
[01:37:10.160 --> 01:37:12.160]  I even called the GBI.
[01:37:12.160 --> 01:37:15.160]  Okay, did you hear the beginning of the show?
[01:37:15.160 --> 01:37:18.160]  No, I missed it.
[01:37:18.160 --> 01:37:27.160]  Okay, I make up criminal complaints. What I did in Randall County is I set up the district attorney,
[01:37:27.160 --> 01:37:35.160]  and the way I set him up was I brought him a criminal complaint against another public official and got him to refuse to take it.
[01:37:35.160 --> 01:37:40.160]  So that gave me an opportunity to file criminal charges against him.
[01:37:40.160 --> 01:37:50.160]  Now you can file against the sheriff for shielding from prosecution, and when you go to tort action, you get to name the sheriff.
[01:37:50.160 --> 01:38:00.160]  He is not going to like that one little bit, and he's going to go to these guys and tell them, you guys got to quit getting me in this problem.
[01:38:00.160 --> 01:38:05.160]  So anytime they don't do what they're supposed to, I add them to the list.
[01:38:05.160 --> 01:38:15.160]  But what I was going to say is make up a complaint with a statement of probable cause, put it in 23 envelopes.
[01:38:15.160 --> 01:38:28.160]  I think that's how many federal grand juries we have, and send it to your local federal district judge who consecrated your local grand jury.
[01:38:28.160 --> 01:38:34.160]  Call the federal courthouse, ask which judge has a grand jury.
[01:38:34.160 --> 01:38:44.160]  Then send your documents, address to grand jury one through, I think it's 23 on a federal, I'm not sure.
[01:38:44.160 --> 01:38:53.160]  Grand jury one through 23, and address it to this district judge, send it certified mail.
[01:38:53.160 --> 01:38:55.160]  Return signature requested.
[01:38:55.160 --> 01:38:57.160]  Absolutely.
[01:38:57.160 --> 01:38:58.160]  Okay.
[01:38:58.160 --> 01:39:00.160]  Those are not in their shorts.
[01:39:00.160 --> 01:39:28.160]  And then when you go to the clerk and ask for a list of all true bills and no bills, if you don't find this municipal judge listed in a true bill or a no bill, then you go to the postal inspectors and sick them on the judge.
[01:39:28.160 --> 01:39:30.160]  They just did that in Florida.
[01:39:30.160 --> 01:39:38.160]  They got a five-year investigation stopped, 29 people under criminal investigation.
[01:39:38.160 --> 01:39:42.160]  Postal inspectors get real ugly.
[01:39:42.160 --> 01:39:47.160]  And what you're doing is you're stirring up a lot of trouble for these guys.
[01:39:47.160 --> 01:39:48.160]  Why?
[01:39:48.160 --> 01:39:51.160]  You got the feds in trouble for protecting them.
[01:39:51.160 --> 01:39:55.160]  How long do you think the feds are going to protect these guys?
[01:39:55.160 --> 01:39:59.160]  I've already learned, not very long.
[01:39:59.160 --> 01:40:01.160]  Say that again, you drifted out.
[01:40:01.160 --> 01:40:05.160]  I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interject in you, but yes, I learned that.
[01:40:05.160 --> 01:40:08.160]  They do not like that very much at all.
[01:40:08.160 --> 01:40:20.160]  So if they think that you're going to file criminal charges against them at the drop of a hat, the word will go out to watch your step.
[01:40:20.160 --> 01:40:27.160]  This guy is going to cause you major grief, and they'll start doing everything they can to fix it.
[01:40:27.160 --> 01:40:30.160]  Okay, do you have any more questions?
[01:40:30.160 --> 01:40:33.160]  We're running short on time and long on callers.
[01:40:33.160 --> 01:40:35.160]  I'm going to make it real short.
[01:40:35.160 --> 01:40:36.160]  That's what I learned the first time.
[01:40:36.160 --> 01:40:41.160]  They don't come after me anymore, but this guy, they came after his father who lives next door.
[01:40:41.160 --> 01:40:45.160]  They came over there and wrote him up a bunch of citations for vehicles in his yard.
[01:40:45.160 --> 01:40:56.160]  So under 50-10-61, OCGA 50-10-61, I filed a motion to have the case moved from environmental court to superior court,
[01:40:56.160 --> 01:41:02.160]  and the judge absolutely refused to do so, said that he had to go to environmental court,
[01:41:02.160 --> 01:41:12.160]  and then if he loses, he can file a de novo review or an appeal to have it moved out of his court.
[01:41:12.160 --> 01:41:17.160]  Under 50-10-61 says that he has a right, if he wants a jury trial,
[01:41:17.160 --> 01:41:21.160]  to have it moved from that environmental court, which is under the magistrate court.
[01:41:21.160 --> 01:41:25.160]  It actually says from magistrate court, but environmental court falls under that jurisdiction.
[01:41:25.160 --> 01:41:29.160]  And we also tried to challenge subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:41:29.160 --> 01:41:34.160]  The judge refused to hear that, said she had all absolute jurisdiction over the case.
[01:41:34.160 --> 01:41:39.160]  And this one here, we tried to file it with the clerk's office.
[01:41:39.160 --> 01:41:42.160]  She laughed and said, she is not going to accept it.
[01:41:42.160 --> 01:41:44.160]  And I said, you have to accept it.
[01:41:44.160 --> 01:41:45.160]  You have to accept all motions.
[01:41:45.160 --> 01:41:49.160]  I don't care if you agree with it or not, or it puts me in jail, you have to accept it.
[01:41:49.160 --> 01:41:51.160]  Let me give you a strategy on that.
[01:41:51.160 --> 01:41:52.160]  Okay.
[01:41:52.160 --> 01:41:57.160]  Go to the clerk and ask the clerk to do something the clerk is required to do.
[01:41:57.160 --> 01:41:59.160]  This I did in Randall County the first time we were there.
[01:41:59.160 --> 01:42:04.160]  I asked to see the physical file, and she said, I don't have the time or staff to give me the physical file.
[01:42:04.160 --> 01:42:07.160]  You'll have to look on the computer.
[01:42:07.160 --> 01:42:09.160]  They don't keep files.
[01:42:09.160 --> 01:42:10.160]  They don't keep files there.
[01:42:10.160 --> 01:42:11.160]  Okay.
[01:42:11.160 --> 01:42:13.160]  I said, wait right here.
[01:42:13.160 --> 01:42:15.160]  I need to go get security.
[01:42:15.160 --> 01:42:16.160]  Boom, I'm gone.
[01:42:16.160 --> 01:42:22.160]  But now I'm out there arguing with security, trying to get security to arrest her.
[01:42:22.160 --> 01:42:27.160]  She comes out with a lieutenant, and she's got a handful of files in her hand.
[01:42:27.160 --> 01:42:31.160]  And the lieutenant starts to say something to me, and I say, no, no, no, I can't talk to you guys.
[01:42:31.160 --> 01:42:33.160]  But she's got the files you wanted.
[01:42:33.160 --> 01:42:38.160]  Sorry, Bubba, that bell's already been rung.
[01:42:38.160 --> 01:42:41.160]  And the clerk is standing there not believing this.
[01:42:41.160 --> 01:42:47.160]  I'm waiting for the police, who I called, to come to file a criminal charge against her.
[01:42:47.160 --> 01:42:50.160]  Now she's trying to give me the records, and I won't take them.
[01:42:50.160 --> 01:42:52.160]  She was mortified.
[01:42:52.160 --> 01:42:57.160]  And I think Craig will attest that when I was there, she was doing everything she could to make me happy.
[01:42:57.160 --> 01:43:03.160]  Oh, yes, she was extremely cooperative of both of us this time because I had a little side thing going on,
[01:43:03.160 --> 01:43:08.160]  trying to find a money trail while Randy was doing his thing, and she was very helpful to us both.
[01:43:08.160 --> 01:43:09.160]  Yeah, that gets their attention.
[01:43:09.160 --> 01:43:10.160]  I never argue with them.
[01:43:10.160 --> 01:43:13.160]  I never tell them, this is your job, this is your duty.
[01:43:13.160 --> 01:43:15.160]  I tell them, this is what I want.
[01:43:15.160 --> 01:43:18.160]  That's exactly what I did to the district attorney.
[01:43:18.160 --> 01:43:22.160]  When he said he wasn't going to file those complaints, we have nothing more to talk about.
[01:43:22.160 --> 01:43:25.160]  Now I go talk to somebody trying to get them to arrest you.
[01:43:25.160 --> 01:43:27.160]  He doesn't get to explain himself.
[01:43:27.160 --> 01:43:30.160]  He doesn't get to tell me how smart he is.
[01:43:30.160 --> 01:43:33.160]  He can go tell the district court or the grand jury.
[01:43:33.160 --> 01:43:36.160]  Okay, we're going, we got one more segment left.
[01:43:36.160 --> 01:43:39.160]  We're about to go to break.
[01:43:39.160 --> 01:43:42.160]  Do you have any more, John?
[01:43:42.160 --> 01:43:46.160]  What I did was I sent a copy of the motion.
[01:43:46.160 --> 01:43:48.160]  Wait, no, wait, we're going to break.
[01:43:48.160 --> 01:43:50.160]  We'll pick you up on the other side.
[01:43:50.160 --> 01:43:51.160]  Okay.
[01:43:51.160 --> 01:43:52.160]  Okay.
[01:43:52.160 --> 01:43:57.160]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, and Eddie Craig, we'll be right back.
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[01:44:55.160 --> 01:44:58.160]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig.
[01:44:58.160 --> 01:45:02.160]  Okay, John, you had another question or comment?
[01:45:02.160 --> 01:45:03.160]  Right.
[01:45:03.160 --> 01:45:07.160]  What I did was I went ahead and sent, well, I had him send it, certified mail return,
[01:45:07.160 --> 01:45:10.160]  signatures and all that kind of stuff.
[01:45:10.160 --> 01:45:12.160]  I sent him a copy of the motion.
[01:45:12.160 --> 01:45:14.160]  I sent him a copy of the motion.
[01:45:14.160 --> 01:45:16.160]  I sent him a copy of the motion.
[01:45:16.160 --> 01:45:18.160]  I sent him a copy of the motion.
[01:45:18.160 --> 01:45:20.160]  I sent him a copy of the motion.
[01:45:20.160 --> 01:45:26.160]  I had him send it, certified mail return signature requested overnight to the
[01:45:26.160 --> 01:45:32.160]  clerk's office and to the judge personally because he goes to court on Wednesday,
[01:45:32.160 --> 01:45:36.160]  and I tried to file this motion Friday to have it moved,
[01:45:36.160 --> 01:45:38.160]  and it says any time prior to trial.
[01:45:38.160 --> 01:45:41.160]  And even the judge was involved and he refused to hear it.
[01:45:41.160 --> 01:45:45.160]  And they had a deputy sheriff there, a lady that does security there,
[01:45:45.160 --> 01:45:47.160]  and she just laughed the whole thing off.
[01:45:47.160 --> 01:45:50.160]  And Gary, my friend here in Columbus, Georgia, you know him,
[01:45:50.160 --> 01:45:55.160]  he told the deputy sheriff that she had a duty that he would file a criminal
[01:45:55.160 --> 01:45:57.160]  complaint against the judge.
[01:45:57.160 --> 01:46:00.160]  And she just laughed about it and said she wasn't going to do anything about it.
[01:46:00.160 --> 01:46:03.160]  So now he has to be in court on Wednesday.
[01:46:03.160 --> 01:46:07.160]  And I told him the first thing to do is plead no subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:46:07.160 --> 01:46:11.160]  When I listened to your show earlier, they were talking about maritime law and
[01:46:11.160 --> 01:46:15.160]  where you had no right to a jury trial in these magistrate courts.
[01:46:15.160 --> 01:46:18.160]  So that's what kind of confused me a little bit.
[01:46:18.160 --> 01:46:19.160]  Oh, okay.
[01:46:19.160 --> 01:46:23.160]  In some states, the magistrate courts, you don't have a right to a jury trial.
[01:46:23.160 --> 01:46:24.160]  That doesn't matter.
[01:46:24.160 --> 01:46:28.160]  File a motion to disqualify the judge.
[01:46:28.160 --> 01:46:29.160]  Okay.
[01:46:29.160 --> 01:46:33.160]  Well, I'm down to the wire now because he has to be in court on Wednesday.
[01:46:33.160 --> 01:46:34.160]  Yeah, take it with him.
[01:46:34.160 --> 01:46:36.160]  Motion to disqualify.
[01:46:36.160 --> 01:46:38.160]  Tell the judge, stand down from the bench.
[01:46:38.160 --> 01:46:42.160]  You are disqualified, you lousy scoundrel.
[01:46:42.160 --> 01:46:47.160]  Now, the thing is that the judge cannot rule on a motion to disqualify themselves.
[01:46:47.160 --> 01:46:50.160]  It has to be a separate magistrate to make that determination.
[01:46:50.160 --> 01:46:52.160]  Right, right, right.
[01:46:52.160 --> 01:46:56.160]  I've read that under Title 15 also.
[01:46:56.160 --> 01:46:57.160]  Okay.
[01:46:57.160 --> 01:47:01.160]  Here's how you get to constitutional disqualification.
[01:47:01.160 --> 01:47:07.160]  The judge has exercised an authority the judge doesn't have and violated a
[01:47:07.160 --> 01:47:14.160]  ministerial duty for which the judge has no official immunity from suit and in
[01:47:14.160 --> 01:47:17.160]  the process created a tort.
[01:47:17.160 --> 01:47:23.160]  Now the defendant has a tort action against the judge that gives the judge a
[01:47:23.160 --> 01:47:30.160]  monetary interest in the outcome of the case and therefore he's disqualified.
[01:47:30.160 --> 01:47:31.160]  Okay.
[01:47:31.160 --> 01:47:34.160]  Well, what I'll do then is I'll go down tomorrow morning and I'll have him file a
[01:47:34.160 --> 01:47:35.160]  civil suit.
[01:47:35.160 --> 01:47:39.160]  I'll give him the money against that judge because I called the judicial
[01:47:39.160 --> 01:47:45.160]  qualification committee today up there about immoral conduct of a judge under
[01:47:45.160 --> 01:47:52.160]  the third canon of the judge's canon and she gave me the criminal complaint
[01:47:52.160 --> 01:47:55.160]  form to fill out, to send there, but it's not going to get there because they
[01:47:55.160 --> 01:48:02.160]  only meet once a month and I've had this done before about six months ago when
[01:48:02.160 --> 01:48:07.160]  I listened to your show and had a court reporter and another lady fired from
[01:48:07.160 --> 01:48:14.160]  that judge's staff for moving a case out of a court that didn't have jurisdiction.
[01:48:14.160 --> 01:48:15.160]  Good.
[01:48:15.160 --> 01:48:16.160]  Good.
[01:48:16.160 --> 01:48:17.160]  Stay after them.
[01:48:17.160 --> 01:48:18.160]  We have to move along.
[01:48:18.160 --> 01:48:19.160]  We've got two more callers.
[01:48:19.160 --> 01:48:20.160]  Okay.
[01:48:20.160 --> 01:48:21.160]  We're running out of time.
[01:48:21.160 --> 01:48:22.160]  Call us back.
[01:48:22.160 --> 01:48:23.160]  Okay.
[01:48:23.160 --> 01:48:24.160]  I will.
[01:48:24.160 --> 01:48:25.160]  I thank you very much for your time.
[01:48:25.160 --> 01:48:26.160]  Okay.
[01:48:26.160 --> 01:48:27.160]  Thank you.
[01:48:27.160 --> 01:48:28.160]  All right.
[01:48:28.160 --> 01:48:29.160]  Bye-bye.
[01:48:29.160 --> 01:48:30.160]  Okay.
[01:48:30.160 --> 01:48:31.160]  Doug, you there?
[01:48:31.160 --> 01:48:32.160]  I'm here.
[01:48:32.160 --> 01:48:33.160]  Doug from Texas.
[01:48:33.160 --> 01:48:34.160]  I'm here.
[01:48:34.160 --> 01:48:39.160]  Yeah, gentlemen, let's take a few pages to what a tort is.
[01:48:39.160 --> 01:48:47.160]  What I've known for the last 30, 40 years, a tort is a deliberate action that
[01:48:47.160 --> 01:48:49.160]  harms another individual.
[01:48:49.160 --> 01:48:53.160]  I know what you did on purpose.
[01:48:53.160 --> 01:48:55.160]  You harmed them.
[01:48:55.160 --> 01:48:56.160]  It's not fair.
[01:48:56.160 --> 01:48:57.160]  It's not fair.
[01:48:57.160 --> 01:48:58.160]  I don't know.
[01:48:58.160 --> 01:49:00.160]  Doug, you're breaking up really badly.
[01:49:00.160 --> 01:49:01.160]  Are you on a cell phone?
[01:49:01.160 --> 01:49:02.160]  Yeah.
[01:49:02.160 --> 01:49:07.160]  Try moving away from whatever electronics or fluorescent lighting or whatever
[01:49:07.160 --> 01:49:10.160]  you're close to because it's breaking you up really bad.
[01:49:10.160 --> 01:49:13.160]  You think better?
[01:49:13.160 --> 01:49:14.160]  That's better.
[01:49:14.160 --> 01:49:15.160]  That's better.
[01:49:15.160 --> 01:49:16.160]  Okay.
[01:49:16.160 --> 01:49:17.160]  I turned my truck off.
[01:49:17.160 --> 01:49:18.160]  Okay.
[01:49:18.160 --> 01:49:28.160]  A tort to me is a deliberate action that harms another individual that is not
[01:49:28.160 --> 01:49:30.160]  criminal, it's civil.
[01:49:30.160 --> 01:49:32.160]  Am I correct in that?
[01:49:32.160 --> 01:49:33.160]  Yeah.
[01:49:33.160 --> 01:49:36.160]  Well, it doesn't necessarily have to be deliberate.
[01:49:36.160 --> 01:49:39.160]  It can be from reckless conduct.
[01:49:39.160 --> 01:49:48.160]  It's a conduct on the part of one litigant that causes harm to another litigant as
[01:49:48.160 --> 01:49:52.160]  opposed to a contract action.
[01:49:52.160 --> 01:49:56.160]  Yeah, it can be through negligence.
[01:49:56.160 --> 01:49:59.160]  It doesn't have to be intentional as Randy was saying.
[01:49:59.160 --> 01:50:07.160]  I've been instructed and I've thought that a tort had to be deliberate, a
[01:50:07.160 --> 01:50:08.160]  deliberate action.
[01:50:08.160 --> 01:50:09.160]  No.
[01:50:09.160 --> 01:50:15.160]  It's just you're just if someone does something that harms you, it can be
[01:50:15.160 --> 01:50:19.160]  either intentional or it can be by negligence.
[01:50:19.160 --> 01:50:24.160]  If I'm driving at 90 miles an hour through town and you pull out of a side
[01:50:24.160 --> 01:50:28.160]  street and I'm coming so fast, you never see me and I whack your car and
[01:50:28.160 --> 01:50:32.160]  knock it all to pieces, I didn't intend to run over your car.
[01:50:32.160 --> 01:50:33.160]  Randy.
[01:50:33.160 --> 01:50:35.160]  But I drove in a negligent manner.
[01:50:35.160 --> 01:50:37.160]  So I think it's a tort.
[01:50:37.160 --> 01:50:38.160]  Go ahead.
[01:50:38.160 --> 01:50:46.160]  Gentlemen, I invite you to research that further because my father had a
[01:50:46.160 --> 01:50:54.160]  law degree and from a very young age I was interested in the law and he
[01:50:54.160 --> 01:50:58.160]  explained it to me and he explained to me, now he could have been wrong and
[01:50:58.160 --> 01:51:04.160]  he's dead now and I can call him maybe a dumb guy or something, but he always
[01:51:04.160 --> 01:51:08.160]  taught me that a tort had to be intentional.
[01:51:08.160 --> 01:51:14.160]  It may have been just a circumstance that you were talking about.
[01:51:14.160 --> 01:51:17.160]  There are certain things that can cause harm.
[01:51:17.160 --> 01:51:18.160]  Right.
[01:51:18.160 --> 01:51:24.160]  That can be just purely accidental and not as a result of negligence.
[01:51:24.160 --> 01:51:25.160]  Right.
[01:51:25.160 --> 01:51:29.160]  He has rights to the person's civility for that.
[01:51:29.160 --> 01:51:35.160]  But I thought the element of intent had to be involved for it to be a tort.
[01:51:35.160 --> 01:51:46.160]  Well, in order for, okay, by intent, intent doesn't necessarily mean that
[01:51:46.160 --> 01:51:52.160]  you intended to cause the harm that was caused.
[01:51:52.160 --> 01:52:00.160]  If I'm in a car and say I rent an automobile and I start driving down the
[01:52:00.160 --> 01:52:08.160]  road in the throttle sticks and I whack into somebody else, I'm speeding,
[01:52:08.160 --> 01:52:13.160]  but it wasn't my intent to drive at that reckless speed.
[01:52:13.160 --> 01:52:19.160]  Now, if I was intentionally driving at the reckless speed and something
[01:52:19.160 --> 01:52:24.160]  happened that caused a tort, now I didn't have to mean to run into you,
[01:52:24.160 --> 01:52:28.160]  but if I intended to do something, that's what goes to recklessness.
[01:52:28.160 --> 01:52:35.160]  I was reckless in something I chose to do, and because I chose to do that,
[01:52:35.160 --> 01:52:38.160]  I accidentally harmed you.
[01:52:38.160 --> 01:52:42.160]  I didn't mean to harm you, but I did mean to do something that created a
[01:52:42.160 --> 01:52:43.160]  condition.
[01:52:43.160 --> 01:52:47.160]  So to that degree, intent would have to be involved.
[01:52:47.160 --> 01:52:48.160]  Yeah.
[01:52:48.160 --> 01:52:51.160]  I mean, you could be involved in a car accident because your car skidded on
[01:52:51.160 --> 01:52:52.160]  black ice.
[01:52:52.160 --> 01:52:54.160]  That wouldn't be intentional.
[01:52:54.160 --> 01:52:56.160]  You lost control because you hid the plane in the rain.
[01:52:56.160 --> 01:52:58.160]  That wouldn't be intentional.
[01:52:58.160 --> 01:53:01.160]  Your brakes failed or your power steering column broke.
[01:53:01.160 --> 01:53:05.160]  None of those would be intentional, but if you called TARM in the process,
[01:53:05.160 --> 01:53:08.160]  that's still a tort action on the other individual's part.
[01:53:08.160 --> 01:53:16.160]  Eddie, you know, I expect you to have a bunch, but I think you need to look
[01:53:16.160 --> 01:53:26.160]  at that tort again because I think that a tort has to be where you're
[01:53:26.160 --> 01:53:29.160]  intentionally harming somebody else.
[01:53:29.160 --> 01:53:30.160]  Okay.
[01:53:30.160 --> 01:53:34.160]  I can assure you that it doesn't have to be intent.
[01:53:34.160 --> 01:53:37.160]  Intent is one element.
[01:53:37.160 --> 01:53:41.160]  There are other elements that can create a tort.
[01:53:41.160 --> 01:53:42.160]  Okay.
[01:53:42.160 --> 01:53:50.160]  If you're driving in your car and, Eddie's example, the brakes fail and you
[01:53:50.160 --> 01:53:54.160]  smash into somebody else, you've harmed someone else.
[01:53:54.160 --> 01:53:55.160]  Right.
[01:53:55.160 --> 01:53:56.160]  Now, you're going to say, I didn't mean to.
[01:53:56.160 --> 01:53:57.160]  Right.
[01:53:57.160 --> 01:54:03.160]  And they're going to say, well, you didn't adequately maintain your car so
[01:54:03.160 --> 01:54:06.160]  it failed and caused this problem, so you're negligent.
[01:54:06.160 --> 01:54:08.160]  You're truly blind.
[01:54:08.160 --> 01:54:12.160]  You can say, well, how was I supposed to know the brakes are going to fail?
[01:54:12.160 --> 01:54:16.160]  And the courts are going to say, you know, sorry.
[01:54:16.160 --> 01:54:18.160]  We have to maintain our own.
[01:54:18.160 --> 01:54:23.160]  If your dog gets out, digs under your fence and attacks an
[01:54:23.160 --> 01:54:24.160]  extra neighbor.
[01:54:24.160 --> 01:54:26.160]  Hey, Randy, I can solve this real quick.
[01:54:26.160 --> 01:54:32.160]  Bouviers, 1856, tort, an injury, a wrong, hence the expression an
[01:54:32.160 --> 01:54:35.160]  executor de son de tort of his own wrong.
[01:54:35.160 --> 01:54:39.160]  Torts may be committed with force as trespasses, which may be an injury to
[01:54:39.160 --> 01:54:42.160]  the person, such as an assault, battery imprisonment, to a property in
[01:54:42.160 --> 01:54:45.160]  possession, or they may be committed without force.
[01:54:45.160 --> 01:54:49.160]  Torts of this nature are to be absolute or relative rights of persons or to
[01:54:49.160 --> 01:54:53.160]  personal property in possession or reversion or to real property, corporal
[01:54:53.160 --> 01:54:54.160]  or incorporeal.
[01:54:54.160 --> 01:54:58.160]  In possession or reversion, these injuries may either be by nonfeasance,
[01:54:58.160 --> 01:55:00.160]  malfeasance, or misfeasance.
[01:55:00.160 --> 01:55:05.160]  In other words, it can be any or all of the above, intentional, accidental,
[01:55:05.160 --> 01:55:06.160]  or through negligence.
[01:55:06.160 --> 01:55:10.160]  That's from 1856 to the current.
[01:55:10.160 --> 01:55:11.160]  Okay.
[01:55:11.160 --> 01:55:12.160]  All right.
[01:55:12.160 --> 01:55:19.160]  Well, I've always been under the impression that a tort had to be intentional.
[01:55:19.160 --> 01:55:22.160]  No, it doesn't have to be intentional.
[01:55:22.160 --> 01:55:26.160]  That is absolutely one element.
[01:55:26.160 --> 01:55:28.160]  We really need to move on.
[01:55:28.160 --> 01:55:30.160]  We've got more callers and we're running out of time really fast.
[01:55:30.160 --> 01:55:31.160]  All right.
[01:55:31.160 --> 01:55:32.160]  Nice start.
[01:55:32.160 --> 01:55:33.160]  Thank you, Doug.
[01:55:33.160 --> 01:55:34.160]  All right.
[01:55:34.160 --> 01:55:35.160]  Okay.
[01:55:35.160 --> 01:55:38.160]  We're going to go to Georgian, Texas.
[01:55:38.160 --> 01:55:39.160]  George, you there?
[01:55:39.160 --> 01:55:41.160]  How are you doing, Randy?
[01:55:41.160 --> 01:55:43.160]  Deborah's not with you tonight?
[01:55:43.160 --> 01:55:45.160]  She's on her way to Rainbow.
[01:55:45.160 --> 01:55:51.160]  Oh, yeah, I'd say thank goodness, gentlemen, you're not researching for
[01:55:51.160 --> 01:55:54.160]  the Jackson family.
[01:55:54.160 --> 01:55:56.160]  Oh, yeah.
[01:55:56.160 --> 01:56:01.160]  I can tell you half of the LA County court documents could be something about
[01:56:01.160 --> 01:56:02.160]  Michael Jackson.
[01:56:02.160 --> 01:56:05.160]  Yeah, I wasn't even going to mention him.
[01:56:05.160 --> 01:56:09.160]  Everybody else has mentioned him and I just didn't care about him that much.
[01:56:09.160 --> 01:56:12.160]  The thing that really depressed me was Farrah Fawcett.
[01:56:12.160 --> 01:56:14.160]  Yeah, he almost cried in his lunch.
[01:56:14.160 --> 01:56:15.160]  Yeah.
[01:56:15.160 --> 01:56:21.160]  To think of a world without Farrah Fawcett in it, it's just a lesser world.
[01:56:21.160 --> 01:56:23.160]  Well, I can make you madder.
[01:56:23.160 --> 01:56:24.160]  I met her at one time.
[01:56:24.160 --> 01:56:25.160]  Is that right?
[01:56:25.160 --> 01:56:27.160]  I got an autograph.
[01:56:27.160 --> 01:56:30.160]  Pin up poster.
[01:56:30.160 --> 01:56:36.160]  Hold your face real close to the mic so I can slap you.
[01:56:36.160 --> 01:56:39.160]  But anyway, she talked to me for about a couple minutes.
[01:56:39.160 --> 01:56:44.160]  I mean, I was like a teenager, 12 years old, and you know, she seemed very
[01:56:44.160 --> 01:56:48.160]  gracious, very smiling, had a small-town Texas attitude.
[01:56:48.160 --> 01:56:49.160]  She wasn't...
[01:56:49.160 --> 01:56:51.160]  Do you know where she's from?
[01:56:51.160 --> 01:56:53.160]  Corpus Christi.
[01:56:53.160 --> 01:57:02.160]  No, Aquila, a tiny, infinitesimally small little town down below
[01:57:02.160 --> 01:57:04.160]  Hillsboro.
[01:57:04.160 --> 01:57:06.160]  A friend of mine lives there.
[01:57:06.160 --> 01:57:08.160]  Oh.
[01:57:08.160 --> 01:57:13.160]  She may have left Aquila and went to Corpus, but she was originally from Aquila.
[01:57:13.160 --> 01:57:16.160]  Oh, okay.
[01:57:16.160 --> 01:57:19.160]  But anyway, Randy, here's the question I got.
[01:57:19.160 --> 01:57:23.160]  I went looking through the Texas Constitution a little bit and the U.S. Constitution.
[01:57:23.160 --> 01:57:27.160]  You know, when they mentioned grand jury, there's nothing...
[01:57:27.160 --> 01:57:31.160]  there's no branch of government that takes over the grand jury.
[01:57:31.160 --> 01:57:33.160]  That's right.
[01:57:33.160 --> 01:57:43.160]  According to Scalia in 1989 case, I think it was Williams v. U.S.,
[01:57:43.160 --> 01:57:48.160]  he said the grand jury is a fourth branch of government.
[01:57:48.160 --> 01:57:53.160]  While the federal court consecrates the grand jury, once the grand jury is in
[01:57:53.160 --> 01:58:01.160]  place, it does not answer to anyone.
[01:58:01.160 --> 01:58:03.160]  Is that cool?
[01:58:03.160 --> 01:58:04.160]  Yes.
[01:58:04.160 --> 01:58:08.160]  I mean, I got these citizens grand juries indicting, but yet the court doesn't
[01:58:08.160 --> 01:58:12.160]  recognize them.
[01:58:12.160 --> 01:58:13.160]  What?
[01:58:13.160 --> 01:58:14.160]  Okay.
[01:58:14.160 --> 01:58:15.160]  We're running out of time.
[01:58:15.160 --> 01:58:16.160]  We're going to have to...
[01:58:16.160 --> 01:58:18.160]  You know, that Friday, we need to address that.
[01:58:18.160 --> 01:58:22.160]  The court's not recognizing grand jury indictments?
[01:58:22.160 --> 01:58:23.160]  Or the citizens grand jury.
[01:58:23.160 --> 01:58:24.160]  The citizens grand juries.
[01:58:24.160 --> 01:58:29.160]  Oh, that's because these guys are making that stuff up.
[01:58:29.160 --> 01:58:30.160]  Okay.
[01:58:30.160 --> 01:58:33.160]  We're out of time, but yeah, we'll talk about that next.
[01:58:33.160 --> 01:58:35.160]  Call in Friday, we'll have time.
[01:58:35.160 --> 01:58:38.160]  I'd like to go into that because these citizen grand juries are going to get
[01:58:38.160 --> 01:58:40.160]  people in trouble.
[01:58:40.160 --> 01:58:41.160]  Okay.
[01:58:41.160 --> 01:58:42.160]  All right.
[01:58:42.160 --> 01:58:43.160]  They're trying...
[01:58:43.160 --> 01:58:46.160]  They're acting under color of law, claiming an authority they don't expressly
[01:58:46.160 --> 01:58:48.160]  have.
[01:58:48.160 --> 01:58:50.160]  Okay, Randy.
[01:58:50.160 --> 01:58:51.160]  We got to go.
[01:58:51.160 --> 01:58:53.160]  We're almost out of time.
[01:58:53.160 --> 01:58:56.160]  Randy Kelton, Debra Stevens, Eddie Craig, rule of law.
[01:58:56.160 --> 01:58:58.160]  See you Thursday.
[01:58:58.160 --> 01:59:13.160]  All right.
[01:59:13.160 --> 01:59:28.160]  We're out of time.
[01:59:28.160 --> 01:59:54.160]  We're out of time.
[01:59:58.160 --> 01:59:59.160]  All right.