[00:00.000 --> 00:05.480] This news brief brought to you by the International News Net. [00:05.480 --> 00:12.320] In Lahore, Pakistan, Safrez Naimi, a prominent anti-Taliban Muslim cleric who condemned suicide [00:12.320 --> 00:16.240] bombings, was killed Friday in a suicide attack. [00:16.240 --> 00:21.460] In the Iranian elections, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was awarded 63% of the vote, but opposition [00:21.460 --> 00:26.160] candidates complained that at some polling stations results were announced before the [00:26.160 --> 00:31.040] ballot boxes were opened and in others more than 100% of the electorate turned out to [00:31.040 --> 00:32.040] vote. [00:32.040 --> 00:37.360] The US Postal Service, having posted a $2 billion second quarter loss, is contemplating [00:37.360 --> 00:50.360] cutting tens of thousands more jobs and closing or consolidating 3100 of its 36,000 outlets. [00:50.360 --> 00:54.800] According to financial disclosure reports released Friday, senators who oversee the [00:54.800 --> 01:00.120] $700 billion Wall Street bailout held stocks in many of the banks bailed out toward the [01:00.120 --> 01:01.280] end of last year. [01:01.280 --> 01:06.320] The reports detailing senators' finances in 2008 show nearly half the Senate Banking [01:06.320 --> 01:11.720] Committee had holdings in financial institutions that have taken funds from TARP, the Troubled [01:11.720 --> 01:13.520] Asset Relief Program. [01:13.520 --> 01:18.640] For example, Senator Tim Johnson, a banking panel member, has assets in several banks [01:18.640 --> 01:20.360] that have taken bailout funds. [01:20.360 --> 01:24.920] Along with Goldman Sachs, the senator has several assets in Bank of America funds worth [01:24.920 --> 01:27.560] at least $115,000. [01:27.560 --> 01:31.440] Bank of America has received $45 billion in government funds. [01:31.440 --> 01:36.480] Another Democrat invested in bailout institutions is Senator Chuck Schumer with assets valued [01:36.480 --> 01:43.160] between $15,000 and $50,000 in Morgan Stanley and $1,000 and $15,000 in Citibank. [01:43.160 --> 01:51.320] Morgan Stanley received $10 billion in TARP money while Citigroup was given $25 billion. [01:51.320 --> 01:56.240] Bloomberg News reports as U.S. stock markets plummeted last September, the Senate's number [01:56.240 --> 02:02.680] two Democrat, Dick Durbin, sold $115,000 worth of stocks and mutual funds and used much of [02:02.680 --> 02:06.120] the money to invest in Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway. [02:06.120 --> 02:11.440] The Illinois senator's 2008 financial disclosure statement shows he sold mutual fund shares [02:11.440 --> 02:17.960] worth $42,600 on September 19, the day after then Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and [02:17.960 --> 02:23.200] Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke urged congressional leaders in a closed meeting [02:23.200 --> 02:26.880] to craft legislation to help financially troubled banks. [02:26.880 --> 02:32.200] The same day, he bought $43,000 worth of Berkshire Hathaway's Class B stock. [02:32.200 --> 02:38.560] The Standard & Poor's 500 index plunged 4.7% last September 15, after the bankruptcy of [02:38.560 --> 02:43.920] Lehman Brothers and Bank of America's government-engineered takeover of Merrill Lynch. [02:43.920 --> 02:48.200] Durbin's spokesman Joe Shoemaker said Durbin didn't capitalize on anything Paulson and [02:48.200 --> 02:52.840] Bernanke told congressional leaders at the September 18 meeting, since the information [02:52.840 --> 02:56.960] wasn't secret or classified and was disclosed publicly the next day. [02:56.960 --> 03:09.400] You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com, live free speech [03:09.400 --> 03:14.400] talk radio at its best. [03:14.400 --> 03:44.040] I'm Joe Shoemaker, and I'll see you next time on Rule of Law Radio. [03:45.060 --> 03:46.260] Whatcha gonna do? [03:46.260 --> 03:48.740] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:48.740 --> 03:50.520] Bad boys, bad boys. [03:50.520 --> 03:51.680] Whatcha gonna do? [03:51.680 --> 03:54.080] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [03:54.080 --> 03:59.860] When you were eight and ya had bad traits you'll go to school and learn the golden rules so [03:59.860 --> 04:02.300] why are you acting like a bloody fool? [04:02.300 --> 04:05.140] If you get hot then your mouth get cool! [04:05.140 --> 04:06.640] Bad boys, bad boys. [04:06.640 --> 04:08.120] Whatcha gonna do? [04:08.120 --> 04:10.600] Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? [04:10.600 --> 04:12.100] Bad boys, bad boys. [04:12.100 --> 04:13.760] Whatcha gonna do? [04:13.760 --> 04:16.260] What you gonna do when they come for you? [04:16.260 --> 04:19.060] You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one [04:19.060 --> 04:21.860] You chuck it on your mother and you chuck it on your father [04:21.860 --> 04:24.660] You chuck it on your brother and you chuck it on your sister [04:24.660 --> 04:27.660] You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me [04:27.660 --> 04:30.660] The Chuckies, the bad boys [04:30.660 --> 04:34.860] They're always trying to start it up, start the fights [04:34.860 --> 04:37.060] They always try to push our buttons [04:37.060 --> 04:42.060] Officer Ben even admitted it on the air [04:42.060 --> 04:44.860] Can't let these people get under your skin [04:44.860 --> 04:49.460] And apparently the Chuckies are chucking up against Randy Kelton [04:49.460 --> 04:51.460] As of late [04:51.460 --> 04:55.660] They've got a warrant out for his arrest in Cherokee County, Texas [04:55.660 --> 04:58.060] Randy, what's the deal? [04:58.060 --> 05:00.460] Well, I've been... [05:00.460 --> 05:02.860] Robert Fox case [05:02.860 --> 05:05.060] They've been after Robert [05:05.060 --> 05:09.060] It seems that in Cherokee County [05:09.060 --> 05:12.060] If you get accused of a crime [05:12.060 --> 05:15.260] And you attempt to defend yourself [05:15.260 --> 05:20.460] That they will come after you with every tool in their arsenal [05:20.460 --> 05:22.260] And when those run out [05:22.260 --> 05:26.060] They'll make up some new ones most people never heard of [05:26.060 --> 05:29.060] They have some really artful stuff [05:29.060 --> 05:34.860] Like charging you with everything they can think up [05:34.860 --> 05:38.060] They arrested Robert in court [05:38.060 --> 05:40.260] When he came to court [05:40.260 --> 05:44.060] On an allegation that he was dealing drugs [05:44.060 --> 05:47.660] Because in a building [05:47.660 --> 05:49.060] The same building he was in [05:49.060 --> 05:51.060] But two suites down [05:51.060 --> 05:53.060] A dentist had went to prison [05:53.060 --> 05:55.860] Because he refused to get a license [05:55.860 --> 05:57.060] Or renew his license [05:57.060 --> 06:00.060] And he had left some antibiotics there [06:00.060 --> 06:04.660] The officers knew that those antibiotics belonged to the dentist [06:04.660 --> 06:07.660] But they arrested Robert and accused him of having the antibiotics [06:07.660 --> 06:10.060] And even then they weren't controlled substances [06:10.060 --> 06:11.460] So it didn't matter [06:11.460 --> 06:12.660] But they didn't care [06:12.660 --> 06:14.060] They threw him in jail anyway [06:14.060 --> 06:17.660] And when he came to the first hearing on the matter [06:17.660 --> 06:21.060] They arrested him for baritory [06:21.060 --> 06:25.260] Now never mind that Robert's not licensed in any professional [06:25.260 --> 06:29.260] And the only way you can commit the act of baritory [06:29.260 --> 06:33.260] Is if you are a licensed professional [06:33.260 --> 06:41.660] And you advertise personally or you personally promote business for yourself [06:41.660 --> 06:43.860] You see an attorney can't go to you and say [06:43.860 --> 06:47.660] Hey I'm an attorney and I want to represent you [06:47.660 --> 06:48.460] That's baritory [06:48.460 --> 06:50.860] That's a felony [06:50.860 --> 06:53.860] A doctor can't do that [06:53.860 --> 06:57.660] Neither can an engineer or a private investigator [06:57.660 --> 06:58.860] They're licensed professionals [06:58.860 --> 07:01.260] A plumber can't do it [07:01.260 --> 07:02.260] They're licensed professionals [07:02.260 --> 07:03.260] They're forbidden to do that [07:03.260 --> 07:04.060] It's baritory [07:04.060 --> 07:04.860] Wait a minute, wait a minute [07:04.860 --> 07:14.060] Randy, are you saying that any licensed professional cannot solicit for work? [07:14.060 --> 07:14.860] That's right [07:14.860 --> 07:18.060] They can't, like you can't tell like your friend [07:18.060 --> 07:20.460] Like a new acquaintance [07:20.460 --> 07:24.060] Who may be having to complain of plumbing problems [07:24.060 --> 07:24.860] You can't say [07:24.860 --> 07:26.860] Oh well I just happen to be a plumber [07:26.860 --> 07:28.060] I can help you out with that [07:28.060 --> 07:30.860] That's a felony [07:30.860 --> 07:33.660] If you go to them to solicit business [07:33.660 --> 07:36.660] Now someone can come to you and say [07:36.660 --> 07:37.660] Hi are you a plumber? [07:37.660 --> 07:38.660] You can say yes I am [07:38.660 --> 07:44.060] Yeah but see in the example that I gave [07:44.060 --> 07:46.260] Technically the plumber would be going to them [07:46.260 --> 07:50.060] Because the guy like wouldn't know that you are a plumber [07:50.060 --> 07:51.060] He would just like be saying [07:51.060 --> 07:53.060] Man I got some plumbing problems [07:53.060 --> 07:53.660] And you would say [07:53.660 --> 07:54.860] Well I just happen to be a plumber [07:54.860 --> 07:55.860] I can help you out with that [07:55.860 --> 07:57.460] You can't do that [07:57.460 --> 07:59.460] Nope, it's a felony in Texas [07:59.460 --> 08:03.060] I understand that doesn't make any sense at all [08:03.060 --> 08:06.660] It's generally not enforced against [08:06.660 --> 08:09.860] Primaries, carpenters, electricians [08:09.860 --> 08:10.860] But it is enforced [08:10.860 --> 08:14.660] It's always been enforced against attorneys [08:14.660 --> 08:18.460] And it's sometimes enforced against doctors [08:18.460 --> 08:23.660] But generally not anywhere to the degree that it is against attorneys [08:23.660 --> 08:27.460] But it clearly does not specify attorneys [08:27.460 --> 08:28.860] Okay well let me ask you something [08:28.860 --> 08:31.660] I mean and I don't want to lead too far off like [08:31.660 --> 08:33.460] Where you're going with this whole Robert Fox thing [08:33.460 --> 08:34.260] And what's going on with you [08:34.260 --> 08:40.260] But can you just briefly explain why that is the crime [08:40.260 --> 08:41.060] And why that is a felony [08:41.060 --> 08:42.860] That doesn't make any sense to me at all [08:42.860 --> 08:47.460] Well I think it was originally put in place for attorneys [08:47.460 --> 08:50.460] To keep attorneys from fomenting litigation [08:50.460 --> 08:53.660] To keep them from ambulance chasing so to speak [08:53.660 --> 08:56.060] For going out and creating litigation [08:56.060 --> 08:57.060] But they do it anyway [08:57.060 --> 08:59.660] Because they have these attorney's lists from the jails [08:59.660 --> 09:02.460] And you pay 100 bucks a month to get the attorney's list [09:02.460 --> 09:03.860] And they solicit [09:03.860 --> 09:05.660] They find out everyone who's been arrested [09:05.660 --> 09:07.060] And they send them letters [09:07.060 --> 09:08.260] That's recent [09:08.260 --> 09:09.660] That's a recent change [09:09.660 --> 09:15.460] Where they specifically allowed attorneys to advertise openly [09:15.460 --> 09:17.260] Up until about 15 years ago [09:17.260 --> 09:20.060] An attorney couldn't take out an ad for his attorney [09:20.060 --> 09:21.460] No, that's not advertising [09:21.460 --> 09:24.060] They're getting the list of people who are arrested [09:24.060 --> 09:26.260] And mailing directly to them [09:26.260 --> 09:28.460] Yeah, this is very recent [09:28.460 --> 09:35.060] They've recently allowed attorneys to do direct mailing [09:35.060 --> 09:36.060] But they can only mail [09:36.060 --> 09:38.260] They can't call them [09:38.260 --> 09:39.860] They can send them the mailing now [09:39.860 --> 09:40.860] And that used to be forbidden [09:40.860 --> 09:42.860] But now they allow them to do that [09:42.860 --> 09:45.060] And if the person responds to the mailing [09:45.060 --> 09:45.860] They can do business [09:45.860 --> 09:50.660] But they can't follow this up with a phone call or anything [09:50.660 --> 09:52.060] Still [09:52.060 --> 09:59.060] But in any case, it only applies to a licensed professional [09:59.060 --> 10:02.460] And Robert's not a licensed professional [10:02.460 --> 10:03.260] But it didn't matter [10:03.260 --> 10:04.260] They arrested him, threw him in jail [10:04.260 --> 10:07.660] Charged him a $30,000 bond anyway [10:07.660 --> 10:10.060] They didn't really care [10:10.060 --> 10:14.060] And okay, the prosecutor didn't pursue prosecution [10:14.060 --> 10:17.060] So when he came back to court the next time [10:17.060 --> 10:22.860] They arrested him for tampering with a government document [10:22.860 --> 10:26.460] He sent a tort letter to the city of Jacksonville [10:26.460 --> 10:30.260] Advising to them that he had been harmed [10:30.260 --> 10:35.060] And in the complaint by a Jacksonville police officer [10:35.060 --> 10:40.060] Whom had already had criminal charges filed against him by Robert Fox [10:40.060 --> 10:47.060] He claimed that the only statement of fact in Fox's letter [10:47.060 --> 10:50.860] Was the statement that he was arrested on December 3 [10:50.860 --> 10:53.060] What he claimed was that on December 3 [10:53.060 --> 10:57.060] He was arrested in front of a magistrate [10:57.060 --> 11:00.460] In the courthouse in Rusk, Texas [11:00.460 --> 11:03.260] He was arrested in front of the magistrate [11:03.260 --> 11:05.860] Who had issued the warrant [11:05.860 --> 11:10.860] And generally when you go to a magistrate and ask him to issue a warrant [11:10.860 --> 11:12.660] You owe him probable cause [11:12.660 --> 11:14.860] And if he finds probable cause he issues a warrant [11:14.860 --> 11:18.060] But this is an ex parte hearing [11:18.060 --> 11:20.060] Only one side's there [11:20.060 --> 11:21.860] So generally the warrant must say [11:21.860 --> 11:26.460] Arrest this person and bring him before me [11:26.460 --> 11:28.860] And the reason it says that [11:28.860 --> 11:31.260] Is you bring him back before me [11:31.260 --> 11:33.260] And you come and show cause [11:33.260 --> 11:37.260] And he gets an opportunity to present a culpatory evidence [11:37.260 --> 11:40.260] And we hold ourselves an examining trial [11:40.260 --> 11:43.060] So Robert told Judge Fletcher [11:43.060 --> 11:46.260] I want an examining trial [11:46.260 --> 11:49.860] Judge Fletcher told him he didn't have a right to an examining trial [11:49.860 --> 11:54.460] And turned him over to the city of Jacksonville police [11:54.460 --> 11:56.260] Now they weren't in the city of Jacksonville [11:56.260 --> 11:59.260] They were in the city of Rusk [11:59.260 --> 12:02.860] Eleven miles away from Jacksonville [12:02.860 --> 12:07.260] The city of Rusk being the county seat [12:07.260 --> 12:09.460] They were in the county courthouse [12:09.460 --> 12:11.660] He was charged with a felony [12:11.660 --> 12:14.060] Rusk could have no subject matter jurisdiction [12:14.060 --> 12:16.260] I mean the city of Jacksonville police [12:16.260 --> 12:18.260] Or the court in the city of Jacksonville [12:18.260 --> 12:20.460] Could have no subject matter jurisdiction [12:20.460 --> 12:25.260] That jurisdiction was in the county in Rusk [12:25.260 --> 12:26.460] But he gave them to these police [12:26.460 --> 12:29.660] Against whom he had filed criminal charges already [12:29.660 --> 12:32.460] And had notice of a civil suit against them [12:32.460 --> 12:35.460] Gives them to these guys so they can take him to Jacksonville [12:35.460 --> 12:37.860] And assault him in Jacksonville [12:37.860 --> 12:39.260] And then bring him back to Rusk [12:39.260 --> 12:40.660] And put him in the county jail [12:40.660 --> 12:43.660] Where he should have been in the first place [12:43.660 --> 12:46.660] Then after that was December 3rd the first time [12:46.660 --> 12:50.660] And then the second time when they did that to him [12:50.660 --> 12:54.260] He accused them of kidnapping [12:54.260 --> 12:57.260] Because they didn't take him to the magistrate he was in front of [12:57.260 --> 12:58.660] They took him from the magistrate [12:58.660 --> 13:00.860] Denied him an examining trial [13:00.860 --> 13:04.060] Took him to another jurisdiction to assault him [13:04.060 --> 13:07.060] Since there is no false imprisonment statute [13:07.060 --> 13:10.060] There's only a cause of action for false imprisonment [13:10.060 --> 13:12.060] In Texas the charge is kidnapping [13:12.060 --> 13:15.860] So he accused them of kidnapping him [13:15.860 --> 13:21.460] And the officer claimed that the accusation was false [13:21.460 --> 13:25.460] Therefore he had committed [13:25.460 --> 13:28.860] He had put a false statement on a government document [13:28.860 --> 13:33.660] Well a tort letter is a letter between two individuals [13:33.660 --> 13:37.060] Even if the individual happened to be the corporate [13:37.060 --> 13:39.460] City of Jacksonville [13:39.460 --> 13:44.860] And it is your requirement before you can sue a governmental entity [13:44.860 --> 13:49.060] Is to give them notice and opportunity to cure [13:49.060 --> 13:52.460] So he sent notice and opportunity to cure [13:52.460 --> 13:54.260] And they called that a government document [13:54.260 --> 13:57.860] And claimed that his conclusion on the government document [13:57.860 --> 14:02.060] Was false therefore he put a false statement on a government document [14:02.060 --> 14:07.060] Well you can only make a false statement to statements of fact [14:07.060 --> 14:09.860] You can have a conclusion that's not true [14:09.860 --> 14:13.260] But that's a matter for the courts to determine [14:13.260 --> 14:15.460] It's still only a conclusion [14:15.460 --> 14:20.260] Well he was held for a hundred some odd days [14:20.260 --> 14:26.060] For accusing a police officer of committing a crime [14:26.060 --> 14:29.060] They don't care that it's illegal who cares [14:29.060 --> 14:30.260] They'll file for anything [14:30.260 --> 14:35.260] And now when I went down and filed criminal charges against all of them [14:35.260 --> 14:42.060] I went into the courtroom on January on March the 23rd [14:42.060 --> 14:47.260] With Judge Fletcher in the courtroom holding a hearing [14:47.260 --> 14:49.260] In Robert Fox's case [14:49.260 --> 14:53.060] Now never mind that Robert Fox had filed a motion to disqualify Fletcher [14:53.060 --> 14:56.660] Had filed criminal charges against Fletcher back in November [14:56.660 --> 15:00.660] And noticed them of his intent to sue them all [15:00.660 --> 15:03.060] He was disqualified as a matter of law [15:03.060 --> 15:06.660] But he still insisted on holding the hearing [15:06.660 --> 15:10.260] Robert had requested assistance of counsel [15:10.260 --> 15:13.660] But he put in a notice of inability to pay [15:13.660 --> 15:16.660] Well they denied it, refused to appoint him counsel [15:16.660 --> 15:20.060] Forcing him to come in and defend himself [15:20.060 --> 15:24.660] And they turned down everything that he filed as a matter of course [15:24.660 --> 15:27.660] Well I was in the courtroom and I rose as an amicus curia [15:27.660 --> 15:30.260] As a friend of the court and noticed the judge [15:30.260 --> 15:34.660] That that day I had filed a number of criminal complaints against him [15:34.660 --> 15:37.460] Because of his illegal actions against Fox [15:37.460 --> 15:41.260] And he needed to stand down from the bench [15:41.260 --> 15:44.060] Well he refused [15:44.060 --> 15:46.460] It seems that later that day [15:46.460 --> 15:52.060] Because on the same day I had filed a stack of criminal charges with the grand jury [15:52.060 --> 15:56.060] Eleven of which named Judge Fletcher [15:56.060 --> 16:00.860] Later that day the investigator for the district attorney [16:00.860 --> 16:06.460] Filed criminal charges against me with Judge Fletcher [16:06.460 --> 16:14.260] Accusing me of operating an investigating company without a license [16:14.260 --> 16:16.660] I ought to be ashamed of myself [16:16.660 --> 16:17.660] And I am [16:17.660 --> 16:20.260] I'm ashamed of that [16:20.260 --> 16:22.660] The problem is [16:22.660 --> 16:30.060] Is even if I had been operating an investigating company without a license [16:30.060 --> 16:33.260] That's not a crime in the state of Texas [16:33.260 --> 16:34.460] Okay well listen [16:34.460 --> 16:36.060] Yeah [16:36.060 --> 16:37.260] Minor detail [16:37.260 --> 16:40.460] Minor detail that it's not a crime in the state of Texas anyway [16:40.460 --> 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you're saying that there's no such thing as a crime [19:04.660 --> 19:09.660] There is no crime to perform the duties of a private investigator without a license [19:09.660 --> 19:11.460] Then why do they have a license? [19:11.460 --> 19:13.860] Why do they even license them at all? [19:13.860 --> 19:16.460] There is a civil infraction [19:16.460 --> 19:20.660] You can be fined up to $10,000 [19:20.660 --> 19:22.460] But it's not a criminal act [19:22.460 --> 19:24.060] It's not a criminal act [19:24.060 --> 19:28.060] So they require a license [19:28.060 --> 19:31.860] So that they can fine you and get money out of you [19:31.860 --> 19:37.260] If you don't get the license if you perform the duties [19:37.260 --> 19:38.260] Is what you're saying [19:38.260 --> 19:43.660] It's like if you go out and try to be a plumber without a plumbing license [19:43.660 --> 19:45.860] And okay there's a reason for that [19:45.860 --> 19:51.260] You know if you need a plumber and I come to you and tell you I'm a plumber [19:51.260 --> 19:54.060] And I'm not a licensed plumber [19:54.060 --> 19:57.460] And I do let me give a real good case in point [19:57.460 --> 20:01.660] A restaurant in a 17 story building New York City [20:01.660 --> 20:04.660] Saturday night stove breaks down [20:04.660 --> 20:06.860] Can't find a plumber [20:06.860 --> 20:10.260] Guy gets his brother-in-law who's a plumber but he's not a licensed plumber [20:10.260 --> 20:12.260] He comes in and works on the stove [20:12.260 --> 20:15.260] They call the city say hey we fixed the stove [20:15.260 --> 20:16.660] And the city calls the gas company [20:16.660 --> 20:19.860] They both come look at it and say yeah it's okay you can go [20:19.860 --> 20:22.660] Sunday morning the whole building blows up [20:22.660 --> 20:26.060] Kills several people [20:26.060 --> 20:28.860] Because the plumber didn't know what he was doing [20:28.860 --> 20:30.860] Oh come on Randy [20:30.860 --> 20:33.860] That is not an argument for the state to [20:33.860 --> 20:36.060] This was attributed to the plumber [20:36.060 --> 20:39.460] Randy I know that but what listen hold on [20:39.460 --> 20:41.460] Wait hold on let me make my point here [20:41.460 --> 20:45.460] That is not an argument to [20:45.460 --> 20:50.660] To require the state to have licenses [20:50.660 --> 20:55.660] That even licensing even state enforced licensing is not going to ensure that [20:55.660 --> 20:57.260] No if somebody doesn't know what they're doing [20:57.260 --> 20:58.260] I'm sorry I'm a libertarian [20:58.260 --> 21:00.260] I don't believe in that kind of thing [21:00.260 --> 21:06.860] The the efficacy of the requirements that's what's in place [21:06.860 --> 21:09.460] And that's their rationale for putting it in place [21:09.460 --> 21:10.260] Okay well [21:10.260 --> 21:14.260] To assure that if you hire a licensed professional [21:14.260 --> 21:19.060] He at least has a verifiable level of competence [21:19.060 --> 21:21.060] Okay that's the reason they do that [21:21.060 --> 21:26.260] But it's not a crime if this guy didn't commit a crime by [21:26.260 --> 21:29.860] Claiming he was a plumber when he wasn't a licensed plumber [21:29.860 --> 21:33.460] Now he can be fined for it [21:33.460 --> 21:36.460] But that's a civil infraction it's not a criminal act [21:36.460 --> 21:39.460] And that's the only point I was going to [21:39.460 --> 21:43.260] If you operate a investigating company without a license [21:43.260 --> 21:46.660] You can be fined up to ten grand [21:46.660 --> 21:48.260] That's not a crime [21:48.260 --> 21:50.860] And these morons [21:50.860 --> 21:52.460] It's just a height of arrogance [21:52.460 --> 21:54.460] Okay yeah and then what [21:54.460 --> 21:59.060] Okay before before we before I ask you the next question about what they're charging with [21:59.060 --> 22:03.460] I want to make another point here about this licensing thing and $10,000 fine [22:03.460 --> 22:06.260] Okay according to your rationale [22:06.260 --> 22:10.260] Well I mean according to what you're saying the state rationale is [22:10.260 --> 22:12.660] Regarding these professional licenses [22:12.660 --> 22:13.460] All right [22:13.460 --> 22:17.260] It's for people's safety because all these people died [22:17.260 --> 22:19.660] Because oh my god he wasn't a licensed professional [22:19.660 --> 22:22.260] He was incompetent so we must have licenses [22:22.260 --> 22:25.060] For these sorts of things or else people could die [22:25.060 --> 22:25.660] All right [22:25.660 --> 22:29.860] Well if that's really what they what the rationale is [22:29.860 --> 22:34.860] Then they should make it a crime to perform these duties [22:34.860 --> 22:40.460] And to you know engage in these activities in commerce without a license [22:40.460 --> 22:45.660] If it's if they're really trying to protect people's life liberty and property [22:45.660 --> 22:47.260] Then it should be a crime [22:47.260 --> 22:50.260] But no it's all about revenue extraction [22:50.260 --> 22:51.660] They don't make it a crime [22:51.660 --> 22:52.660] They just make it [22:52.660 --> 22:54.460] Well no you got to pay the state [22:54.460 --> 22:57.660] Well how is that protecting people's life liberty and property [22:57.660 --> 23:01.660] To extract a fine to the state [23:01.660 --> 23:05.260] Not even to a harmed individual or to punish them [23:05.260 --> 23:08.660] No I'm sorry this bogus wrong [23:08.660 --> 23:11.260] I mean I'm not saying I'm not saying you're wrong [23:11.260 --> 23:13.660] I'm I am just calling [23:13.660 --> 23:16.260] I am just calling this for what it is [23:16.260 --> 23:18.660] All right as far as smashing the state [23:18.660 --> 23:20.860] Which Gary Johnson likes to say [23:20.860 --> 23:21.260] All right [23:21.260 --> 23:22.260] You can give that to Gary [23:22.260 --> 23:23.660] This is not my issue [23:23.660 --> 23:27.060] No I know and I'm just making an ideological point here [23:27.060 --> 23:27.460] That's all [23:27.460 --> 23:31.260] Okay so now let me ask you the next question concerning your case [23:31.260 --> 23:35.660] They charged you with the crime [23:35.660 --> 23:40.260] Which isn't even a crime of performing the duties of a private investigator without a license [23:40.260 --> 23:42.860] What statute did they cite [23:42.860 --> 23:48.660] Did they cite any code you know paragraph title you know article [23:48.660 --> 23:50.460] They issued a warrant [23:50.460 --> 23:54.260] But they hadn't quite figured out if it's a class A or a class B misdemeanor [23:54.260 --> 23:56.460] Yeah because there isn't one that's why [23:56.460 --> 23:57.260] Yeah I know [23:57.260 --> 24:02.260] So I've written I wrote a document today that's a challenge to the jurisdiction [24:02.260 --> 24:06.260] And in the prayer and what I asked the judge to do [24:06.260 --> 24:08.660] I asked him to [24:08.660 --> 24:13.260] Defendant moves the court to dismiss the current prosecution [24:13.260 --> 24:16.860] In the alternative defendant moves the court to disqualify itself for cause [24:16.860 --> 24:21.260] And petition the head administrative judge of the district to appoint a judge to hear the motion [24:21.260 --> 24:24.260] Any alternative [24:24.260 --> 24:27.860] Defendant moves the court to quash the warrant [24:27.860 --> 24:29.660] And the court [24:29.660 --> 24:33.460] Quash the warrant the court issued and stay for the proceedings until such time [24:33.460 --> 24:38.260] As a proper examining trial can be held in accordance to Chapter 16 Code of Criminal Procedure [24:38.260 --> 24:41.060] Any alternative [24:41.060 --> 24:45.660] Quash the warrant the court issued and stay for the proceedings until such time as the hearing [24:45.660 --> 24:50.060] Can be held on the disqualification of the court [24:50.060 --> 24:53.060] Any alternative means if he doesn't do that one then okay [24:53.060 --> 24:54.260] Any alternative [24:54.260 --> 24:56.660] Defendant moves the court to quash the warrant [24:56.660 --> 25:01.460] The court issued and stay any further proceedings until such time as the defendant can petition the district court [25:01.460 --> 25:06.060] For a writ of mandamus declaring the prosecution as a stupid arrogant abuse of office [25:06.060 --> 25:08.060] And dismiss the prosecution with prejudice [25:08.060 --> 25:12.660] Convene a court of inquiry into the pattern of abuse by the courts in Cherokee County [25:12.660 --> 25:21.260] Remove Judge Flesher and Caldwell Qua Warranto as ringleaders in a street gang as defined by Section 72 penal code [25:21.260 --> 25:22.260] Any alternative [25:22.260 --> 25:26.260] That's the document you're submitting what you just read [25:26.260 --> 25:27.260] Yeah [25:27.260 --> 25:28.260] Wait a minute [25:28.260 --> 25:30.260] Any alternative [25:30.260 --> 25:34.260] Both the judge and prosecutor should leave the courtroom [25:34.260 --> 25:35.860] Hang themselves [25:35.860 --> 25:41.460] And when you meet in hell explain to one another how stupid all this is [25:41.460 --> 25:44.460] You're putting that in the document [25:44.460 --> 25:45.460] Yes [25:45.460 --> 25:48.860] Randy [25:48.860 --> 25:52.260] This is so dumb it deserves it [25:52.260 --> 25:55.260] And in the order [25:55.260 --> 25:56.660] Wait a minute hold on [25:56.660 --> 25:58.260] Randy [25:58.260 --> 26:02.460] Isn't Robert Fox in all of this trouble to begin with [26:02.460 --> 26:07.660] Because he writes letters to these people using this type of language [26:07.660 --> 26:09.660] No [26:09.660 --> 26:13.260] He writes letters that have no point [26:13.260 --> 26:15.660] That have no purpose [26:15.660 --> 26:21.460] That ask for nothing that say nothing other than that you guys are stupid and you're jerks [26:21.460 --> 26:27.060] Okay but you're and you're you're saying in your in your document to them you guys are stupid and you're jerks [26:27.060 --> 26:29.660] But at least you're telling them why is that right [26:29.660 --> 26:33.660] If the judge if either one of them read law [26:33.660 --> 26:37.260] They will recognize this as a paraphrase [26:37.260 --> 26:38.460] Poor Robert [26:38.460 --> 26:41.660] I hope Robert's not listening right now oh my god [26:41.660 --> 26:47.660] This is a paraphrase of a very famous quote [26:47.660 --> 26:53.260] Yeah I got it out of a 1908 book on cross-examination [26:53.260 --> 26:54.460] It's very famous [26:54.460 --> 26:56.860] A barrister in England [26:56.860 --> 26:59.860] You know in England they have [26:59.860 --> 27:01.660] I forget what the [27:01.660 --> 27:04.460] The attorneys call who represents the client [27:04.460 --> 27:09.860] But the regular attorney doesn't do prosecution doesn't go before the court [27:09.860 --> 27:11.660] Barristers do that [27:11.660 --> 27:13.860] They specialize in [27:13.860 --> 27:15.660] Going before the courts [27:15.660 --> 27:19.860] And a barrister is being pressed by a [27:19.860 --> 27:23.060] Murder defendant's attorney [27:23.060 --> 27:28.660] To ask a specific question and the barrister doesn't want to [27:28.660 --> 27:30.460] And the attorney presses him [27:30.460 --> 27:33.660] And finally he asks the question [27:33.660 --> 27:37.460] The accused is on the stand [27:37.460 --> 27:42.660] The accused answers to the question convicts him [27:42.660 --> 27:48.060] The barrister turned to the attorney and told him leave the courtroom [27:48.060 --> 27:50.260] Shoot yourself [27:50.260 --> 27:53.660] And when you meet your client in hell [27:53.660 --> 27:56.060] Apologize to him [27:56.060 --> 27:58.460] Now what is a barrister [27:58.460 --> 28:00.460] A barrister in England [28:00.460 --> 28:02.860] In England they have [28:02.860 --> 28:06.460] One attorney that represents the client [28:06.460 --> 28:10.460] But he doesn't actually do the court proceedings [28:10.460 --> 28:14.060] They have barristers who that's all they do [28:14.060 --> 28:16.660] They specialize in [28:16.660 --> 28:18.860] Proceedings in the courtroom [28:18.860 --> 28:21.660] We have attorneys here who never go into the courtroom [28:21.660 --> 28:26.660] We also have attorneys here who specialize in court litigation [28:26.660 --> 28:29.860] And in England they say you're crazy [28:29.860 --> 28:32.060] To have an ordinary attorney go [28:32.060 --> 28:34.260] Represent you in the court [28:34.260 --> 28:36.660] He can represent you in other proceedings [28:36.660 --> 28:38.060] And get things ready for the court [28:38.060 --> 28:41.260] But you need a specialist to go before the court [28:41.260 --> 28:45.260] So there are specialists who do that here but [28:45.260 --> 28:50.060] It's not as clearly defined as it is in England [28:50.060 --> 28:51.660] But anyway they'll recognize that [28:51.660 --> 28:54.860] Actually Ken's trying to get me to take that out [28:54.860 --> 28:58.260] And I probably will but I don't want to [28:58.260 --> 29:01.460] My last thing in the order is [29:01.460 --> 29:03.260] The judge and prosecutor will go out [29:03.260 --> 29:05.660] And hang themselves for just cause [29:05.660 --> 29:07.260] So ordered or denied [29:07.260 --> 29:11.660] Oh come on Randy [29:11.660 --> 29:18.860] This particular complaint is so egregious [29:18.860 --> 29:23.060] The day I file criminal charges against this judge [29:23.060 --> 29:28.660] That would absolutely disqualify him [29:28.660 --> 29:31.660] He issues a warrant for my arrest [29:31.660 --> 29:35.060] For a crime that's not a crime [29:35.060 --> 29:36.460] Okay Randy all right [29:36.460 --> 29:38.460] I have to go to the witness [29:38.460 --> 29:40.860] All right listen we're going to break Randy [29:40.860 --> 29:42.860] We'll talk about this some on the other side [29:42.860 --> 29:44.260] We got some callers too [29:44.260 --> 29:47.460] We'll be right back [29:47.460 --> 29:49.660] Gold prices are at historic highs [29:49.660 --> 29:52.660] And with the recent pullback this is a great time to buy [29:52.660 --> 29:55.260] With the value of the dollar, risks of inflation [29:55.260 --> 29:57.460] Geopolitical uncertainties and instability [29:57.460 --> 29:58.860] And world 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would be required to report any transaction [30:32.660 --> 30:35.460] If you have gold silver platinum you'd like to sell [30:35.460 --> 30:37.460] We can convert it for immediate payment [30:37.460 --> 30:41.460] Call us at 800-874-9760 [30:41.460 --> 30:43.460] We're Roberts and Roberts brokerage [30:43.460 --> 30:57.860] 800-874-9760 [30:57.860 --> 31:01.860] Well this one is dedicated to a girl named Julie [31:01.860 --> 31:04.660] You know she wears a gully [31:04.660 --> 31:07.860] Some say she's a coolie [31:07.860 --> 31:10.860] But Julie is no fool [31:10.860 --> 31:14.260] She wants money when it comes to romance [31:14.260 --> 31:17.060] And I'm not got an answer [31:17.060 --> 31:18.060] Okay [31:18.060 --> 31:21.060] Because Julie, man, she wears a gully [31:21.060 --> 31:23.660] She says she doesn't want no man who's a fool [31:23.660 --> 31:26.660] Because Julie, man, she wears a gully [31:26.660 --> 31:29.660] She says she only wants a helicopter, but not me [31:29.660 --> 31:32.260] Because the man needs to bring the money [31:32.260 --> 31:35.060] Bring the money in US currency [31:35.060 --> 31:37.860] Bring the money to give it to Julie [31:37.860 --> 31:40.660] She says she loves to always fool [31:40.660 --> 31:43.260] She says she only wants the US currency [31:43.260 --> 31:46.060] But now the economy is getting badly [31:46.060 --> 31:48.860] While she's losing a lot of money [31:48.860 --> 31:52.060] Julie says she only wants yen around Sibyka [31:52.060 --> 31:54.260] Julie, man, she wears a gully [31:54.260 --> 31:57.460] She says she only wants US currency [31:57.460 --> 31:59.860] Julie, man, she wears a gully [31:59.860 --> 32:02.860] She says she only wants a helicopter, but not me [32:02.860 --> 32:05.260] But not me, man, I need to bring the money [32:05.260 --> 32:08.060] So that the man works for the woman in the sea [32:08.060 --> 32:10.860] So that the man works for the woman in the sea [32:10.860 --> 32:13.660] And when it comes to printing all the money [32:13.660 --> 32:16.460] You better call Helicopter Bonanki [32:16.460 --> 32:19.260] And when you call him and he gives the money [32:19.260 --> 32:22.060] Gets the money and he prints it quickly [32:22.060 --> 32:24.860] Gets an order from the presidency [32:24.860 --> 32:27.460] Julie says, Lord, she wears a gully [32:27.460 --> 32:30.260] She wants Bonanki to give she money [32:30.260 --> 32:33.260] When Bonanki prints it, she gives it to she [32:33.260 --> 32:36.060] She promises she'll go see everything [32:36.060 --> 32:39.060] Bonanki only sees the king in the sea [32:39.060 --> 32:41.660] The queen in the sea, nothing [32:41.660 --> 32:44.260] You see your old and him so happy [32:44.260 --> 32:47.260] Bonanki spends all US currency, baby [32:47.260 --> 32:49.660] Julie, man, she wears a gully [32:49.660 --> 33:07.660] Okay, we are back. The rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens. Okay, so, Randy, please finish up. You were talking about this order, you know, this petition that you're sending to the court and what it says at the end. [33:07.660 --> 33:18.660] Yeah, except I may not get opportunity to send it to the court. They have ordered me to be in court on the 17th, but there's not any way I'm going to go there. [33:18.660 --> 33:27.660] Wait a minute, hold on. Wait a minute, back up. You were saying something about the document right at the end before we went to the break. [33:27.660 --> 33:28.660] Oh, the order. [33:28.660 --> 33:29.660] And it got cut off. [33:29.660 --> 33:39.660] Oh, in the order, the last thing in the order is, when you write an order, you write an order to reflect the prayer. [33:39.660 --> 33:46.660] In the prayer, I asked the court to do a number of things, to do one thing and the alternative do another and the alternative do another. [33:46.660 --> 33:57.660] When you write an order, you put in a statement as if the judge were ordering exactly what you asked him to do. [33:57.660 --> 34:04.660] Like in the order I put in, it is hereby ordered that the court is without subject matter jurisdiction and the cause is dismissed. [34:04.660 --> 34:10.660] Underneath that, I put so ordered and denied. You can check whichever one. [34:10.660 --> 34:21.660] And then the warrant is quashed and the court recuses itself. So order denied. All action is stayed and a continuance is granted until such time as the proper examining trial can be had. [34:21.660 --> 34:30.660] So order denied. All action is stayed and continuance is granted until such time as the district court can rule and rid mandamus. So order denied. [34:30.660 --> 34:37.660] The last one, the judge and prosecutor will go out and hang themselves for just cause. So order denied. [34:37.660 --> 34:41.660] I wonder what he's going to do with that one. [34:41.660 --> 34:50.660] But I probably won't ever get this filed because I'm not going down to their court. [34:50.660 --> 35:13.660] What I'm going to do is go to the court in the county in which I live, petition for a restraining order with the district court and file criminal charges against all of them and ask this court to subpoena them to Wise County to a show cause hearing. [35:13.660 --> 35:32.660] Okay, Randy, I want to ask you something about the strategy, okay, because you've always said that when people get subpoenas, they need to go, okay, and not just say, well, it's a bogus court because it's commercial and it's a corporation or whatever. [35:32.660 --> 35:45.660] So I don't have to go or because, you know, Texas was never properly incorporated into the union, so the state doesn't really exist. And it's like, well, because they're going to throw you in their pretend jail anyway. [35:45.660 --> 35:57.660] So now why are you all of a sudden, after all of that, saying I'm not going to go to the hearing that I was subpoenaed for? What's up with that, Randy? [35:57.660 --> 36:03.660] Well, because if I go, they're going to throw me in jail for certain. [36:03.660 --> 36:09.660] You don't think that they're going to, the judge is going to set bail? [36:09.660 --> 36:20.660] Oh, if they're going to throw me in jail first. There's a warrant issued for my arrest and the judge has a history of refusing to hold an examining trial. [36:20.660 --> 36:28.660] And that's exactly what they intend. Once they get me in there, I'm concerned that the judge is going to file contempt against me. [36:28.660 --> 36:41.660] Then he gets jurisdiction and he can hold me 90 days. And when that 90 days runs out, he can do it again and do it again as a woman in Arizona that's been in jail almost a year now. [36:41.660 --> 36:46.660] Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Explain that again. Why would he hold you in contempt if you went to the hearing? [36:46.660 --> 36:53.660] Because I filed criminal charges against him. Why would he file criminal charges for a non-existent crime? [36:53.660 --> 36:59.660] Wait a minute. He's going to hold you in contempt for filing criminal charges against him. How is that? [36:59.660 --> 37:07.660] He can hold me for anything he wants to. We have a judge here who absolutely does not care what the law is. [37:07.660 --> 37:14.660] So you're saying that this guy is going to hold you in contempt no matter what you do just because he is that corrupt? [37:14.660 --> 37:23.660] He has absolutely demonstrated that he absolutely has zero regard for law. That is absolutely clear. [37:23.660 --> 37:30.660] I've got a stack of judicial conduct complaints I'm preparing against him now and bar grievances and criminal charges. [37:30.660 --> 37:43.660] I've already filed 11 criminal charges against him. And because I filed criminal charges against me, he issued this false warrant the very day I filed criminal charges against him. [37:43.660 --> 37:49.660] Let me ask you something, Randy, regarding contempt of court. [37:49.660 --> 37:59.660] Doesn't the judge have to show that he ordered you to do something and that you disobeyed the order of the court and that that's why you're in contempt? [37:59.660 --> 38:03.660] He can't just say you're in contempt of court just because I don't like you. [38:03.660 --> 38:10.660] You don't understand. You're assuming that the judge has to pay attention to some law. [38:10.660 --> 38:25.660] Well, no, I'm asking does the judge have to answer to a higher authority to show that he has a legitimate lawful reason for holding you in contempt and to show a higher authority that, look, this is the order I gave this person. [38:25.660 --> 38:33.660] He disobeyed this order, so it's contempt. I mean, does he have to answer? I'm not assuming anything. I'm just asking a question. [38:33.660 --> 38:37.660] I'm asking if there's a higher authority that he has to show that to. [38:37.660 --> 38:42.660] He would have to answer if I could get him there. [38:42.660 --> 38:50.660] But if they get me trapped in jail, then I'll be just like Robert was. Can't do anything. [38:50.660 --> 38:57.660] No paper, no pencil, no legal library, no phone calls. [38:57.660 --> 39:16.660] He couldn't do anything. He'd come out about once a month. And remember, this is podunk, redneck, rural, backwoods, East Texas people is not a place that you want to, it's like very, very, you know, sparse population. [39:16.660 --> 39:28.660] It's scary, okay, when it gets like that, these corrupt, you know, cops and judges in these backwoods, rural areas of these, you know, podunk places. [39:28.660 --> 39:34.660] I'm telling you, it's a very scary place. I would never live up there. Woof, boy. [39:34.660 --> 39:41.660] They can't get away with that kind of thing in the city because there's too many people watching down the shoulder, breathing down an egg. [39:41.660 --> 39:46.660] Things are beginning to unravel on them. So they're getting desperate. [39:46.660 --> 39:59.660] They've acted incredibly ignorant. And their problem is, is with a 99.6% conviction rate, they've been lulled into thinking they can do absolutely anything they want to. [39:59.660 --> 40:08.660] And if I sound like I'm critical of Robert, I don't mean to be. Demand spent over 90 days in solitary confinement. [40:08.660 --> 40:11.660] That's just horrible. [40:11.660 --> 40:15.660] And he did not knuckle under. [40:15.660 --> 40:19.660] What do you mean knuckle under? What were they trying to get him to do? [40:19.660 --> 40:23.660] Make a deal. [40:23.660 --> 40:30.660] And he told them he would die first. When he first got him in there, he had a heart attack. [40:30.660 --> 40:32.660] He had a heart attack? [40:32.660 --> 40:35.660] Yeah, he had a minor heart attack. [40:35.660 --> 40:44.660] So if you tried to get him any money to his canteen in there, the jail was taking it to pay the doctors, which is illegal. [40:44.660 --> 40:46.660] There's no law there. [40:46.660 --> 40:48.660] Oh my God. [40:48.660 --> 40:56.660] And the problem is, is no matter what they did to Robert, they couldn't get him to lay down and roll over for him. [40:56.660 --> 41:02.660] He just hung in there and kept coming back at him. And he has all my respect for that. [41:02.660 --> 41:05.660] Yeah, for real. I agree. [41:05.660 --> 41:11.660] He goes to court and they arrest him for the most ignorant stuff. [41:11.660 --> 41:14.660] Absolutely no grounds whatsoever. [41:14.660 --> 41:18.660] He gets bailed out. He goes back. They do something even dumber. [41:18.660 --> 41:21.660] And then something even dumber. [41:21.660 --> 41:33.660] Police chief, Lee Daniels, said in a newspaper article, I've got more jail cells than Mr. Fox has paper. [41:33.660 --> 41:42.660] It's very clear it was their intent to keep arresting him and having him have to pay a bondsman to get out until they ran him out of money. [41:42.660 --> 41:44.660] And that's exactly what they did. [41:44.660 --> 41:48.660] Oh my God. Well, how did he finally get out? [41:48.660 --> 41:51.660] He got the judge disqualified. [41:51.660 --> 41:52.660] He did? [41:52.660 --> 41:58.660] Yes. And between David Ball and another, they did the same thing too. [41:58.660 --> 42:00.660] He stayed in jail almost a year. [42:00.660 --> 42:02.660] How did? Oh my God. [42:02.660 --> 42:05.660] And he never knuckled under and he finally beat him. [42:05.660 --> 42:10.660] How did Robert Fox manage to finally get the judge disqualified? With your papers? [42:10.660 --> 42:25.660] No. Someone he knew called the head administrative judge and told the head administrative judge that Robert had filed a motion to disqualify this judge and the judge was ignoring the motions. [42:25.660 --> 42:33.660] The head administrative judge made an inquiry and immediately this judge Fletcher recused himself. [42:33.660 --> 42:38.660] As soon as the head administrative judge found out there was a motion to disqualify. [42:38.660 --> 42:43.660] Let me explain motion to disqualify, motion to recuse. [42:43.660 --> 42:58.660] Under rules of civil procedure 18A, if a motion to recuse is filed, the judge can voluntarily recuse himself or he can rule on the motion. [42:58.660 --> 43:11.660] If a motion to disqualify is filed, the judge must forward the motion. He can either, the judge can recuse himself as a matter of cause. [43:11.660 --> 43:17.660] If he recuses himself, it's similar to disqualification, but he's removed from the case. [43:17.660 --> 43:21.660] So disqualification becomes moot. [43:21.660 --> 43:32.660] Or he must forward the motion to the head administrative judge of the district who shall appoint a judge to hear that motion. [43:32.660 --> 43:36.660] That's ministerial. He has no discretion in the matter. [43:36.660 --> 43:39.660] This judge just simply refused. [43:39.660 --> 43:52.660] This is awful. Okay, listen, we're going to break. We'll be right back. [44:09.660 --> 44:28.660] Okay, listen, we're going to break. We're going to break. [44:28.660 --> 44:47.660] We're going to break. [44:47.660 --> 45:05.660] If you did not have any problem, where are you going to look for one? [45:05.660 --> 45:11.660] If you could not wait any longer, would you purposefully die? [45:11.660 --> 45:21.660] If you could not wait any longer, would you purposefully die? [45:21.660 --> 45:48.660] If you could not wait any longer, would you purposefully die? [45:48.660 --> 45:59.660] If you could not wait any longer, would you purposefully die? [45:59.660 --> 46:17.660] If you could not wait any longer, would you purposefully die? [46:17.660 --> 46:22.660] Watchin' the Spikes fly [46:22.660 --> 46:48.660] Watchin' the Spikes fly [46:48.660 --> 46:57.660] Watchin' the Spikes fly [46:57.660 --> 47:00.660] Action out on the outpost [47:00.660 --> 47:03.660] The first kiss was so sweet [47:03.660 --> 47:04.660] Don't happen tell me [47:04.660 --> 47:05.660] You're fighting for another [47:05.660 --> 47:08.660] Till it's knockin' you right off of your feet [47:08.660 --> 47:11.660] It's the time that you will struggle [47:11.660 --> 47:14.660] At the chance of lighting the lights [47:14.660 --> 47:17.660] It's the time your voice had a negotiation [47:17.660 --> 47:19.660] And trying at least for a time [47:19.660 --> 47:39.660] Watchin' the Spikes fly [47:39.660 --> 47:43.660] Alright, Watchin' the Spikes fly [47:43.660 --> 47:48.660] Watchin' the Spikes fly [47:48.660 --> 47:49.660] This is unbelievable [47:49.660 --> 47:51.660] This guy sat in jail for a year [47:51.660 --> 47:53.660] David Ball, you're saying? [47:53.660 --> 47:54.660] Yeah, almost a year [47:54.660 --> 47:55.660] Oh my god, okay [47:55.660 --> 47:57.660] And Robert Fox was in jail for almost 90 days [47:57.660 --> 47:58.660] And he wouldn't budge [47:58.660 --> 48:00.660] And he wouldn't give in and plea [48:00.660 --> 48:02.660] And I think that that is very honorable [48:02.660 --> 48:03.660] Because I'll tell you [48:03.660 --> 48:05.660] If it was me, no way [48:05.660 --> 48:07.660] I'd say whatever they wanted me to say [48:07.660 --> 48:08.660] To get out of there [48:08.660 --> 48:17.660] Because I am a 5 foot, 6, 110 pound little woman [48:17.660 --> 48:18.660] Alright [48:18.660 --> 48:20.660] And I would not survive in jail [48:20.660 --> 48:22.660] I just would not, okay [48:22.660 --> 48:23.660] I could not take it [48:23.660 --> 48:25.660] My body could not take it [48:25.660 --> 48:27.660] They'd probably rape me, beat me up, everything else [48:27.660 --> 48:28.660] I couldn't handle it [48:28.660 --> 48:30.660] I mean, I have to [48:30.660 --> 48:32.660] You know, people, a lot of people [48:32.660 --> 48:34.660] Try to criticize me because [48:34.660 --> 48:35.660] You know, I have a driver's license [48:35.660 --> 48:37.660] Well, and don't I believe in right travel? [48:37.660 --> 48:39.660] It's like we have to pick our battles [48:39.660 --> 48:40.660] I can't go to jail [48:40.660 --> 48:41.660] I can't, personally me [48:41.660 --> 48:42.660] I can't go to jail no matter what [48:42.660 --> 48:43.660] If I ever get thrown in jail [48:43.660 --> 48:45.660] I have to do whatever I have to do to get out [48:45.660 --> 48:48.660] Even if it means I have to agree to something I didn't do [48:48.660 --> 48:51.660] So I really got to hand it to Robert [48:51.660 --> 48:54.660] You know, and David Ball for doing that [48:54.660 --> 48:56.660] So, Randy, I can understand now [48:56.660 --> 48:59.660] Why you're not going to go to that hearing [48:59.660 --> 49:03.660] So what are you planning on doing about it now? [49:03.660 --> 49:07.660] I'm going to go to the district attorney in the county I live in [49:07.660 --> 49:12.660] Because that's where they sent the summons to [49:12.660 --> 49:17.660] And I'm going to file criminal charges with the district attorney [49:17.660 --> 49:22.660] And petition for a restraining order against [49:22.660 --> 49:27.660] The county judge in city of Jacksonville [49:27.660 --> 49:32.660] And ask the prosecuting attorney to subpoena them [49:32.660 --> 49:37.660] To a show cause hearing here in Wise County [49:37.660 --> 49:43.660] And then I'll be filing with the attorney general in Washington, D.C. [49:43.660 --> 49:50.660] Or the U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C. against these guys [49:50.660 --> 49:52.660] We'll see who wins out in the end [49:52.660 --> 49:55.660] When I say go to court [49:55.660 --> 49:59.660] You know, I'm still going to court just not to theirs [49:59.660 --> 50:02.660] I'm going to go to a somewhat friendlier venue [50:02.660 --> 50:06.660] Now, granted the district judge in Wise County hates my guts [50:06.660 --> 50:09.660] And would like to see me dead [50:09.660 --> 50:14.660] But the district attorney doesn't hate my guts [50:14.660 --> 50:17.660] At least not as much as the district judge does [50:17.660 --> 50:24.660] And they're more concerned about me now that I do this radio program and such [50:24.660 --> 50:27.660] They're likely to do the right thing [50:27.660 --> 50:33.660] It's more like they're not going to be as stupid as these guys in Cherokee County are [50:33.660 --> 50:36.660] It's hard to believe [50:36.660 --> 50:45.660] What has happened to them is they're so accustomed to getting everything they want the way they want it [50:45.660 --> 50:50.660] They don't know how to deal with someone with integrity [50:50.660 --> 50:55.660] They don't know how to deal with someone who won't be bullied [50:55.660 --> 50:59.660] David Ball was originally arrested for failure to ID [50:59.660 --> 51:04.660] The arrest was criminal, was improper, and he knew it [51:04.660 --> 51:12.660] And all of this has come about because David Ball fought a class C misdemeanor citation [51:12.660 --> 51:19.660] When he sued them, they started coming after him with everything they could find [51:19.660 --> 51:26.660] They called Missouri and found that David Ball had [51:26.660 --> 51:31.660] He had went to jail on the driver's license issue [51:31.660 --> 51:40.660] So after David sued them, they summoned him to Texas to be at a hearing on this class C misdemeanor [51:40.660 --> 51:43.660] On May the 14th last year [51:43.660 --> 51:49.660] David came down from Missouri to fight this thing, a class C misdemeanor [51:49.660 --> 51:58.660] He got to court on May the 14th and they continued the hearing until July the 18th [51:58.660 --> 52:06.660] That day, because he showed up, the chief of police called Missouri [52:06.660 --> 52:13.660] And got a hold of his probation officer and told him that David was here consorting with felons [52:13.660 --> 52:16.660] Which was absolutely untrue [52:16.660 --> 52:28.660] And somehow got the parole officer there to say he would institute extradition proceedings [52:28.660 --> 52:31.660] But he never did [52:31.660 --> 52:39.660] Then the police went to the local magistrate, who had just been sued by Ball [52:39.660 --> 52:49.660] And told him in a statement that there were felony warrants for Ball's arrest, which there wasn't [52:49.660 --> 52:55.660] The next day, the 15th of May, they smashed the door down, which they're forbidden to do [52:55.660 --> 53:02.660] To arrest someone unless it's their own house, and this wasn't David Ball's house [53:02.660 --> 53:05.660] Went in and arrested David [53:05.660 --> 53:09.660] He spent almost a year in jail fighting this [53:09.660 --> 53:15.660] And finally they had to let him out because there never was a warrant for his arrest [53:15.660 --> 53:17.660] It was all bogus [53:17.660 --> 53:21.660] But they figured they'd do this and he would lay down and roll over for them [53:21.660 --> 53:23.660] Well, he didn't [53:23.660 --> 53:30.660] And this happened to David Ball in Cherokee County also, the same court, the same group of thugs [53:30.660 --> 53:34.660] Yes, he was staying with Robert Fox [53:34.660 --> 53:39.660] So once they got Ball in jail, then they went after Fox [53:39.660 --> 53:43.660] And it just kept escalating, it was all nonsense [53:43.660 --> 53:49.660] What in the world, why did they go after David Ball to begin with anyway? [53:49.660 --> 53:52.660] A policeman was just being a jerk [53:52.660 --> 53:55.660] Oh, come on, there has to be more to it than that [53:55.660 --> 54:01.660] That's all it is, they're standing, two guys are standing in a parking lot next to the building where they were staying, talking [54:01.660 --> 54:04.660] Cop comes up, asks them for ID [54:04.660 --> 54:08.660] David Ball said, ask them, what are you doing here? He said, I'm relaxing [54:08.660 --> 54:15.660] He demanded ID, he said, what probable cause do you have? I don't need probable cause, show me your ID [54:15.660 --> 54:20.660] He said, I haven't done anything, I have no requirement to identify myself [54:20.660 --> 54:23.660] Costs him, throws him in a car [54:23.660 --> 54:25.660] What do you call that? [54:25.660 --> 54:30.660] He has to have, by law, articulatable probable cause [54:30.660 --> 54:39.660] Okay, so it's not just because the cop decided to harass him, it's because David Ball stood up for his rights [54:39.660 --> 54:44.660] But he stood up for his rights, like I said [54:44.660 --> 54:52.660] In a backwoods, podunk, redneck, rural east Texas area [54:52.660 --> 54:58.660] Where the corruption runs so deep that you don't even want to drive anywhere near the county [54:58.660 --> 55:06.660] Because since it's such a rural area, there's not many people looking down over their shoulder [55:06.660 --> 55:12.660] And so like, if it was me, I would stand up for my rights just like David Ball if it was in Austin [55:12.660 --> 55:17.660] But up there? You want to see my ID? Fine, yes sir [55:17.660 --> 55:22.660] Because I know, I don't want, I wouldn't risk that [55:22.660 --> 55:27.660] It is absolutely clear that all of these guys are in bed together [55:27.660 --> 55:32.660] Their problem is, is it's beginning to unravel [55:32.660 --> 55:38.660] The charge of barritory, the district attorney refused to adjudicate [55:38.660 --> 55:45.660] And the mayor, the chief of police, the, who, several people [55:45.660 --> 55:50.660] Went to their congressman and their state senator [55:50.660 --> 55:58.660] And tried to put pressure on the district attorney to force him to prosecute this non-crime [55:58.660 --> 56:02.660] So that drove a rift between the prosecuting attorney and these guys [56:02.660 --> 56:06.660] Now they're calling each other names [56:06.660 --> 56:11.660] Then I come in and file a whole stack of criminal complaints against them [56:11.660 --> 56:17.660] And now it's beginning to heat up, so they come back after me [56:17.660 --> 56:20.660] It's just getting out of hand for them [56:20.660 --> 56:29.660] You know, I have to say here that the level of outrageousness here, this is more corrupt than Williamson County [56:29.660 --> 56:37.660] However, Williamson County is more corrupt on a different level because the scheme of Williamson County is so big [56:37.660 --> 56:40.660] It's such a money-making, gigantic revenue machine [56:40.660 --> 56:46.660] There's so many people involved and it's just so much, millions and even billions of dollars [56:46.660 --> 56:50.660] That's why in the financial sense it's the most corrupt [56:50.660 --> 56:59.660] I've never even heard of Williamson County law enforcement or Williamson County courts doing something like this [56:59.660 --> 57:03.660] They can't because it's a metropolitan area [57:03.660 --> 57:13.660] I can understand doing it for money, but the reason these people are doing it is just incredibly stupid [57:13.660 --> 57:18.660] It's called hubris, it's not stupid, it's called hubris [57:18.660 --> 57:25.660] It's called arrogant, they feel like they are gods practically and that they can do whatever they want [57:25.660 --> 57:30.660] And that we are peons, that we are their slaves, their servants [57:30.660 --> 57:36.660] And they have the power because they got the guns and the badges and the keys to the jail [57:36.660 --> 57:42.660] And we just better lick their boots and do whatever they say or else we're just going to get thrown in jail for however long [57:42.660 --> 57:44.660] That's what it is, it's called hubris [57:44.660 --> 57:49.660] It's called drunk on power is what it is [57:49.660 --> 57:54.660] And it causes them to be stupid [57:54.660 --> 58:01.660] The drunkenness of the power, the arrogance is what causes them to be stupid [58:01.660 --> 58:05.660] It's a horrible situation, we have to do something about it [58:05.660 --> 58:12.660] I mean this is so bad, it almost sounds like it's time for an FBI investigation or something [58:12.660 --> 58:14.660] This is out of control [58:14.660 --> 58:18.660] We're going there, that's going to be the next step [58:18.660 --> 58:22.660] Okay well we're going to break, we're at the top of the hour here [58:22.660 --> 58:26.660] I'm sorry callers, Cathy's been hanging for a long time [58:26.660 --> 58:33.660] We are going to take some calls but Randy and I need to discuss this situation because it's a very serious issue [58:33.660 --> 58:38.660] It's horrible, we can't let it go on because it's everywhere [58:38.660 --> 58:43.660] I mean how many rural backwards counties is this kind of thing going on that we don't even know about [58:43.660 --> 58:46.660] We'll be right back [58:46.660 --> 58:50.660] Are you the plaintiff or defendant in a lawsuit? 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866-LAW-EZ [59:47.660 --> 59:54.660] You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com [59:54.660 --> 59:58.660] Live free speech talk radio at its best [59:58.660 --> 01:00:03.660] WTPRN.com [01:00:28.660 --> 01:00:34.660] Never, never take your dog out of my yard [01:00:36.660 --> 01:00:42.660] Never, never take your dog out of my yard [01:00:44.660 --> 01:00:48.660] I try to do the sleeping, the dog always barking [01:00:48.660 --> 01:00:50.660] Disturbing me when I'm flexing [01:00:50.660 --> 01:00:52.660] Never, never disturb him [01:00:52.660 --> 01:00:54.660] I give him some of my ketchup [01:00:54.660 --> 01:00:56.660] Chocolate in the kitchen [01:00:56.660 --> 01:00:58.660] Chocolate in the kitchen [01:00:58.660 --> 01:01:00.660] Going channel backing [01:01:00.660 --> 01:01:02.660] Never come and argue with [01:01:02.660 --> 01:01:04.660] Tell me how did I listen [01:01:04.660 --> 01:01:06.660] Tell me never one second [01:01:06.660 --> 01:01:08.660] Six hour one second half of the win [01:01:08.660 --> 01:01:10.660] Six, six, six, six, six [01:01:10.660 --> 01:01:12.660] Never take your dog out of my yard [01:01:12.660 --> 01:01:14.660] Always in my backyard [01:01:14.660 --> 01:01:16.660] You're disturbing me [01:01:16.660 --> 01:01:22.660] Never, never take your dog out of my backyard [01:01:22.660 --> 01:01:30.660] Never, never take your dog out of my backyard [01:01:30.660 --> 01:01:32.660] I gave him sponges eating [01:01:32.660 --> 01:01:34.660] Gave him bread him eating [01:01:34.660 --> 01:01:36.660] Washed clothes after he's dressing [01:01:36.660 --> 01:01:38.660] Wooden stuff from backing [01:01:38.660 --> 01:01:40.660] Fasting never pitted [01:01:40.660 --> 01:01:42.660] Looking over seeking [01:01:42.660 --> 01:01:44.660] Your dog in my Niagara [01:01:44.660 --> 01:01:46.660] Barking disturbing [01:01:46.660 --> 01:01:48.660] When he just starts sleeping [01:01:48.660 --> 01:01:50.660] Your dog barking barking [01:01:50.660 --> 01:01:52.660] Your dog body barking [01:01:52.660 --> 01:01:54.660] You who's got money crowing [01:01:54.660 --> 01:01:56.660] I've been singing I'm flexing [01:01:56.660 --> 01:01:58.660] You know that's a wrong thing [01:01:58.660 --> 01:02:00.660] With me you feel I do it [01:02:00.660 --> 01:02:02.660] Tell me how you like it [01:02:02.660 --> 01:02:04.660] How your dog is barking [01:02:04.660 --> 01:02:06.660] Let you know I'm whining [01:02:06.660 --> 01:02:08.660] But your dog barks too much I think [01:02:08.660 --> 01:02:10.660] Disturbing neighborhood ya [01:02:10.660 --> 01:02:12.660] People just sitting under [01:02:12.660 --> 01:02:14.660] That's why I give them ketchup [01:02:14.660 --> 01:02:16.660] And the dog I chew that [01:02:16.660 --> 01:02:18.660] No the dog do chewing [01:02:18.660 --> 01:02:20.660] No the dog not barking [01:02:20.660 --> 01:02:22.660] So never, never [01:02:22.660 --> 01:02:26.660] Take your dog out of my yard [01:02:28.660 --> 01:02:30.660] Never, never [01:02:30.660 --> 01:02:34.660] Take your dog out of my yard [01:02:36.660 --> 01:02:38.660] Never, never [01:02:38.660 --> 01:02:42.660] Take your dog out of my yard [01:02:44.660 --> 01:02:46.660] Six of me say something [01:02:46.660 --> 01:02:48.660] Half a dozen he'll take [01:02:48.660 --> 01:02:50.660] Six of me say one thing [01:02:50.660 --> 01:02:52.660] Half a dozen he'll take [01:02:52.660 --> 01:03:16.660] You know that's a wrong thing [01:03:22.660 --> 01:03:28.660] This is a story of the absolutely monstrosity [01:03:28.660 --> 01:03:30.660] Of the corruption [01:03:30.660 --> 01:03:32.660] To the levels [01:03:32.660 --> 01:03:34.660] That are just [01:03:34.660 --> 01:03:36.660] I mean almost [01:03:36.660 --> 01:03:38.660] It's just evil okay [01:03:38.660 --> 01:03:40.660] That these people [01:03:40.660 --> 01:03:42.660] Like I was saying [01:03:42.660 --> 01:03:44.660] How many backwoods counties [01:03:44.660 --> 01:03:46.660] Does this kind of thing go on [01:03:46.660 --> 01:03:48.660] That we have no idea [01:03:48.660 --> 01:03:50.660] That we don't even know about okay [01:03:50.660 --> 01:03:52.660] This is one county [01:03:52.660 --> 01:03:54.660] In East Texas [01:03:54.660 --> 01:03:56.660] And the only reason that we even know [01:03:56.660 --> 01:03:58.660] About this level of corruption [01:03:58.660 --> 01:04:00.660] Is because we have two patriots [01:04:00.660 --> 01:04:02.660] Up in that [01:04:02.660 --> 01:04:04.660] That just happen to live up in that area [01:04:04.660 --> 01:04:06.660] That stood up for their rights [01:04:06.660 --> 01:04:08.660] And that's how we know about it [01:04:08.660 --> 01:04:10.660] And they're connected with us [01:04:10.660 --> 01:04:12.660] And we're on the radio [01:04:12.660 --> 01:04:14.660] So now everybody else knows about it [01:04:14.660 --> 01:04:16.660] In a lot of other states [01:04:16.660 --> 01:04:18.660] So how much else [01:04:18.660 --> 01:04:20.660] How many other counties [01:04:20.660 --> 01:04:22.660] Is this happening all over the country [01:04:22.660 --> 01:04:24.660] That's why we have to stop this [01:04:24.660 --> 01:04:26.660] We've got to make an example out of Cherokee County [01:04:26.660 --> 01:04:28.660] Alright [01:04:28.660 --> 01:04:30.660] So that this corruption [01:04:30.660 --> 01:04:32.660] These people will quit [01:04:32.660 --> 01:04:34.660] Because I know it's going on all over the country [01:04:34.660 --> 01:04:36.660] And when you think about it [01:04:36.660 --> 01:04:38.660] Most of the United States is rural areas [01:04:38.660 --> 01:04:40.660] Okay there's of course [01:04:40.660 --> 01:04:42.660] You know [01:04:42.660 --> 01:04:44.660] Billions of people but they're all [01:04:44.660 --> 01:04:46.660] In a densified urban areas [01:04:46.660 --> 01:04:48.660] There's so many counties [01:04:48.660 --> 01:04:50.660] So many [01:04:50.660 --> 01:04:52.660] That are rural [01:04:52.660 --> 01:04:54.660] I mean how many it's just unbelievable [01:04:54.660 --> 01:04:56.660] I can only imagine [01:04:56.660 --> 01:04:58.660] Okay I have pretty well [01:04:58.660 --> 01:05:00.660] Villified Cherokee County [01:05:00.660 --> 01:05:02.660] Now let me speak [01:05:02.660 --> 01:05:04.660] Someone in their defense [01:05:04.660 --> 01:05:06.660] Well [01:05:06.660 --> 01:05:08.660] They haven't actually [01:05:08.660 --> 01:05:10.660] You know [01:05:10.660 --> 01:05:12.660] There's no other stories here about them [01:05:12.660 --> 01:05:14.660] Beating that crap out of Robert [01:05:14.660 --> 01:05:16.660] Or really physically [01:05:16.660 --> 01:05:18.660] Doing him any harm [01:05:18.660 --> 01:05:20.660] He was afraid that on one of the arrests [01:05:20.660 --> 01:05:22.660] They intended to kill him [01:05:22.660 --> 01:05:24.660] But he had a female [01:05:24.660 --> 01:05:26.660] 73 year old woman there [01:05:26.660 --> 01:05:28.660] And he thinks that's what stopped him [01:05:28.660 --> 01:05:30.660] But that's just [01:05:30.660 --> 01:05:32.660] Hold on Randy [01:05:32.660 --> 01:05:34.660] They starved him [01:05:34.660 --> 01:05:36.660] I mean look I know Robert Fox [01:05:36.660 --> 01:05:38.660] He used to look like [01:05:38.660 --> 01:05:40.660] A big jovial [01:05:40.660 --> 01:05:42.660] Santa Claus kind of guy [01:05:42.660 --> 01:05:44.660] Like [01:05:44.660 --> 01:05:46.660] Your grandpa [01:05:46.660 --> 01:05:48.660] Like 250, 300 pounds or something [01:05:48.660 --> 01:05:50.660] I mean you told me that by the time [01:05:50.660 --> 01:05:52.660] They let him out of jail he was 135 pounds [01:05:52.660 --> 01:05:54.660] I can't imagine [01:05:54.660 --> 01:05:56.660] I think he lost that much [01:05:56.660 --> 01:05:58.660] His belly only sticks out about [01:05:58.660 --> 01:06:00.660] 8 or 9 inches now [01:06:00.660 --> 01:06:02.660] So yeah [01:06:02.660 --> 01:06:04.660] He lost a lot of weight but [01:06:04.660 --> 01:06:06.660] Okay they did deprive him of ice cream [01:06:06.660 --> 01:06:08.660] And that was [01:06:08.660 --> 01:06:10.660] Reprehensible [01:06:10.660 --> 01:06:12.660] Yeah [01:06:12.660 --> 01:06:14.660] They didn't beat him up or [01:06:14.660 --> 01:06:16.660] Do anything really [01:06:16.660 --> 01:06:18.660] I hear really really bad stories [01:06:18.660 --> 01:06:20.660] What did occur [01:06:20.660 --> 01:06:22.660] In this county [01:06:22.660 --> 01:06:24.660] Two years ago [01:06:24.660 --> 01:06:26.660] Is a police officer [01:06:26.660 --> 01:06:28.660] Was arrested for raping [01:06:28.660 --> 01:06:30.660] Six women [01:06:30.660 --> 01:06:32.660] They let him out of jail [01:06:32.660 --> 01:06:34.660] And it took the feds [01:06:34.660 --> 01:06:36.660] To come in and stop him [01:06:36.660 --> 01:06:38.660] Before he killed all of them [01:06:38.660 --> 01:06:40.660] Wait wait wait [01:06:40.660 --> 01:06:42.660] He was raping women [01:06:42.660 --> 01:06:44.660] And the women [01:06:44.660 --> 01:06:46.660] Were trying to do something about it [01:06:46.660 --> 01:06:48.660] And so they had [01:06:48.660 --> 01:06:50.660] And so then he was [01:06:50.660 --> 01:06:52.660] Killing them [01:06:52.660 --> 01:06:54.660] To prevent them from talking [01:06:54.660 --> 01:06:56.660] How many did he kill [01:06:56.660 --> 01:06:58.660] I don't remember I think it was either 3 or 4 [01:06:58.660 --> 01:07:00.660] And Jacksonville [01:07:00.660 --> 01:07:02.660] Wouldn't do anything about it [01:07:02.660 --> 01:07:04.660] These women are turning up dead [01:07:04.660 --> 01:07:06.660] The rapist is on the street [01:07:06.660 --> 01:07:08.660] And they wouldn't do anything about it [01:07:08.660 --> 01:07:10.660] People had to go out [01:07:10.660 --> 01:07:12.660] And the feds had to come in and arrest him [01:07:12.660 --> 01:07:14.660] Because the locals wouldn't do it [01:07:14.660 --> 01:07:16.660] Oh my god [01:07:16.660 --> 01:07:18.660] They would have let him kill them all [01:07:18.660 --> 01:07:20.660] So it could be a lot worse [01:07:20.660 --> 01:07:22.660] Yeah and you know why too [01:07:22.660 --> 01:07:24.660] Because it's not just the thin blue line [01:07:24.660 --> 01:07:26.660] I know because [01:07:26.660 --> 01:07:28.660] Part of my family [01:07:28.660 --> 01:07:30.660] Is from East Texas [01:07:30.660 --> 01:07:32.660] And it's the most chauvinist [01:07:32.660 --> 01:07:34.660] Area [01:07:34.660 --> 01:07:36.660] And group people [01:07:36.660 --> 01:07:38.660] I'm sorry [01:07:38.660 --> 01:07:40.660] For the most part [01:07:40.660 --> 01:07:42.660] It's horrible up there [01:07:42.660 --> 01:07:44.660] The way that [01:07:44.660 --> 01:07:46.660] The attitude of the men towards the women [01:07:46.660 --> 01:07:48.660] There are some good ones [01:07:48.660 --> 01:07:50.660] Eddie is a good one [01:07:50.660 --> 01:07:52.660] I believe [01:07:52.660 --> 01:07:54.660] But I'm telling you for the most part [01:07:54.660 --> 01:07:56.660] They consider women as [01:07:56.660 --> 01:07:58.660] Cattle [01:07:58.660 --> 01:08:00.660] You can't blame them [01:08:00.660 --> 01:08:02.660] So they don't care [01:08:02.660 --> 01:08:04.660] And your family tree looks like a telephone pole [01:08:04.660 --> 01:08:06.660] Oh my god [01:08:06.660 --> 01:08:08.660] Okay [01:08:08.660 --> 01:08:10.660] They haven't [01:08:10.660 --> 01:08:12.660] They hadn't shot at me [01:08:12.660 --> 01:08:14.660] Or Robert or any of us [01:08:14.660 --> 01:08:16.660] And [01:08:16.660 --> 01:08:18.660] To that degree [01:08:18.660 --> 01:08:20.660] It could be a whole lot worse [01:08:20.660 --> 01:08:22.660] It's just that they seem to be [01:08:22.660 --> 01:08:24.660] Incredibly [01:08:24.660 --> 01:08:26.660] No this was in Cherokee County [01:08:26.660 --> 01:08:28.660] This cop that was [01:08:28.660 --> 01:08:30.660] Raping and killing the women [01:08:30.660 --> 01:08:32.660] Was in the city of Jacksonville [01:08:32.660 --> 01:08:34.660] Where Robert's at [01:08:38.660 --> 01:08:40.660] So the feds already know [01:08:40.660 --> 01:08:42.660] That this is a bad place [01:08:42.660 --> 01:08:44.660] So it wouldn't be too hard [01:08:44.660 --> 01:08:46.660] To get the feds to get involved again [01:08:46.660 --> 01:08:48.660] I would imagine [01:08:48.660 --> 01:08:50.660] I'm going to file criminally against the local FBI agent [01:08:50.660 --> 01:08:52.660] Why? [01:08:52.660 --> 01:08:54.660] Because he's been noticed several times [01:08:54.660 --> 01:08:56.660] And refused to do anything [01:08:56.660 --> 01:08:58.660] About the courts? [01:08:58.660 --> 01:09:00.660] Not that they're going to Robert and such [01:09:00.660 --> 01:09:02.660] He knows all about it and refuses to do anything [01:09:02.660 --> 01:09:04.660] So I'm going to go to the [01:09:04.660 --> 01:09:06.660] To the US attorney in DC [01:09:06.660 --> 01:09:08.660] Can't you go to the FBI [01:09:08.660 --> 01:09:10.660] In another city? [01:09:10.660 --> 01:09:12.660] No [01:09:12.660 --> 01:09:14.660] I went to FBI [01:09:14.660 --> 01:09:16.660] Here and all they could do [01:09:16.660 --> 01:09:18.660] Is refer it to where they're at [01:09:18.660 --> 01:09:20.660] So I'll go to DC [01:09:20.660 --> 01:09:22.660] With criminal complaints against the [01:09:22.660 --> 01:09:24.660] Local US attorney [01:09:24.660 --> 01:09:26.660] And the local FBI agents [01:09:26.660 --> 01:09:28.660] For having knowledge of this [01:09:28.660 --> 01:09:30.660] And refusing to act [01:09:30.660 --> 01:09:32.660] Let me ask you something else [01:09:32.660 --> 01:09:34.660] What about asking [01:09:34.660 --> 01:09:36.660] Maybe for the inspector general [01:09:36.660 --> 01:09:38.660] Is there some office [01:09:38.660 --> 01:09:40.660] Inside [01:09:40.660 --> 01:09:42.660] Within the FBI [01:09:42.660 --> 01:09:44.660] To look into corruption [01:09:44.660 --> 01:09:46.660] Of different branches [01:09:46.660 --> 01:09:48.660] Is there some sort of [01:09:48.660 --> 01:09:50.660] Administrative [01:09:50.660 --> 01:09:52.660] Complaints? [01:09:52.660 --> 01:09:54.660] Public integrity unit [01:09:54.660 --> 01:09:56.660] But the problem with the public integrity [01:09:56.660 --> 01:09:58.660] Unit is they tend to be [01:09:58.660 --> 01:10:00.660] A public relations agency [01:10:00.660 --> 01:10:02.660] For the departments [01:10:02.660 --> 01:10:04.660] Just like [01:10:04.660 --> 01:10:06.660] Internal affairs is [01:10:06.660 --> 01:10:08.660] For the police department [01:10:08.660 --> 01:10:10.660] Well that's what I was saying [01:10:10.660 --> 01:10:12.660] Do they have an internal affairs [01:10:12.660 --> 01:10:14.660] That would maybe actually try to do something about this [01:10:14.660 --> 01:10:16.660] They just try to protect their buddies [01:10:16.660 --> 01:10:18.660] Unless you put them on the dime [01:10:18.660 --> 01:10:20.660] So what I do is go to the attorney general [01:10:20.660 --> 01:10:22.660] With the complaints and let it come down [01:10:22.660 --> 01:10:24.660] Back to the people it needs to be [01:10:24.660 --> 01:10:26.660] Okay so Randy let me ask you this [01:10:26.660 --> 01:10:28.660] If the feds took down this cop [01:10:28.660 --> 01:10:30.660] Who was murdering and raping these women [01:10:30.660 --> 01:10:32.660] Why are they not doing [01:10:32.660 --> 01:10:34.660] Anything about this situation [01:10:34.660 --> 01:10:36.660] Of the courts and the cops and Robert [01:10:36.660 --> 01:10:38.660] Fox [01:10:38.660 --> 01:10:40.660] They didn't do it until he killed four of them [01:10:40.660 --> 01:10:42.660] Four of six [01:10:42.660 --> 01:10:44.660] And enough people just screamed bloody murder [01:10:44.660 --> 01:10:46.660] Until they finally come in [01:10:46.660 --> 01:10:48.660] If they [01:10:48.660 --> 01:10:50.660] If the public hadn't raised such a stink [01:10:50.660 --> 01:10:52.660] About it then let them kill them all [01:10:52.660 --> 01:10:54.660] They didn't care [01:10:54.660 --> 01:10:56.660] They only care [01:10:56.660 --> 01:10:58.660] When you step on them [01:10:58.660 --> 01:11:00.660] That's the only way we're going to get them to care [01:11:00.660 --> 01:11:02.660] Is when you force them to [01:11:02.660 --> 01:11:04.660] Oh my god [01:11:04.660 --> 01:11:06.660] Okay we have Eddie from [01:11:06.660 --> 01:11:08.660] We have Eddie Craig on the line here [01:11:08.660 --> 01:11:10.660] Randy but let's [01:11:10.660 --> 01:11:12.660] Wait a minute but Eddie's from that area [01:11:12.660 --> 01:11:14.660] Well I just said [01:11:14.660 --> 01:11:16.660] Eddie [01:11:16.660 --> 01:11:18.660] Eddie [01:11:18.660 --> 01:11:20.660] You got a lot [01:11:20.660 --> 01:11:22.660] Of background noise on your end so [01:11:22.660 --> 01:11:24.660] I can't keep you on long but do you have any quick comments [01:11:24.660 --> 01:11:26.660] Well [01:11:26.660 --> 01:11:28.660] I can honestly say I am familiar with [01:11:28.660 --> 01:11:30.660] The police officers in Jacksonville [01:11:30.660 --> 01:11:32.660] And I'm surprised they're not all being arrested [01:11:32.660 --> 01:11:34.660] For murdering somebody somewhere [01:11:34.660 --> 01:11:36.660] Wow [01:11:36.660 --> 01:11:38.660] You're right in one thing [01:11:38.660 --> 01:11:40.660] Deborah when they have a star [01:11:40.660 --> 01:11:42.660] To hide behind they are the bunch [01:11:42.660 --> 01:11:44.660] Of most egotistical guys [01:11:44.660 --> 01:11:46.660] You can find in that branch of service [01:11:46.660 --> 01:11:48.660] In this area now don't get me wrong [01:11:48.660 --> 01:11:50.660] That's not all of them but there is [01:11:50.660 --> 01:11:52.660] A huge number of them there's a big [01:11:52.660 --> 01:11:54.660] Ego trip over that badge around this part [01:11:54.660 --> 01:11:56.660] Of Texas [01:11:56.660 --> 01:11:58.660] Well and when you're in a rural area it's a lot easier to get away [01:11:58.660 --> 01:12:00.660] With that too because like I said there's not [01:12:00.660 --> 01:12:02.660] So many people breathing [01:12:02.660 --> 01:12:04.660] Down your neck over it to keep you in line [01:12:04.660 --> 01:12:06.660] Yeah [01:12:06.660 --> 01:12:08.660] It's dangerous [01:12:08.660 --> 01:12:10.660] If I manage to make it [01:12:10.660 --> 01:12:12.660] To be elected sheriff here [01:12:12.660 --> 01:12:14.660] Somebody will be doing something [01:12:14.660 --> 01:12:16.660] Even if it means throwing a few of them badges [01:12:16.660 --> 01:12:18.660] Under the jail [01:12:18.660 --> 01:12:20.660] Alright good for you Eddie [01:12:20.660 --> 01:12:22.660] Of course Randy will have to [01:12:22.660 --> 01:12:24.660] Come see you know to my funeral [01:12:24.660 --> 01:12:26.660] And see the number of bullet holes in me but still [01:12:28.660 --> 01:12:30.660] Well Eddie I'm behind you [01:12:30.660 --> 01:12:32.660] I'm right behind you [01:12:32.660 --> 01:12:34.660] I'm sure you are on the bullet stop [01:12:34.660 --> 01:12:36.660] Yeah I want [01:12:36.660 --> 01:12:38.660] Yeah I want Randy [01:12:38.660 --> 01:12:40.660] I want Randy to run for sheriff for Travis County [01:12:40.660 --> 01:12:42.660] Well I wish him [01:12:42.660 --> 01:12:44.660] All the best as well [01:12:44.660 --> 01:12:46.660] I tried running for sheriff [01:12:46.660 --> 01:12:48.660] Once [01:12:48.660 --> 01:12:50.660] Yeah maybe we ought to do that [01:12:50.660 --> 01:12:52.660] That New Hampshire thing [01:12:52.660 --> 01:12:54.660] Get everybody that moves to McAdogis get me elected [01:12:54.660 --> 01:12:56.660] And then we'll move to another county after that [01:12:56.660 --> 01:12:58.660] And elect him [01:12:58.660 --> 01:13:00.660] We'll see we'll see listen Randy I know you [01:13:00.660 --> 01:13:02.660] I'm going to mute you for just one second Eddie [01:13:02.660 --> 01:13:04.660] Randy I know that you [01:13:04.660 --> 01:13:06.660] Ran for sheriff before [01:13:06.660 --> 01:13:08.660] But you ran for sheriff up in [01:13:08.660 --> 01:13:10.660] Podunk you know the area north [01:13:10.660 --> 01:13:12.660] Of Fort Worth and [01:13:12.660 --> 01:13:14.660] Now you're a big time [01:13:14.660 --> 01:13:16.660] Radio star [01:13:16.660 --> 01:13:18.660] Here in Austin there are [01:13:18.660 --> 01:13:20.660] Tens of thousands of people [01:13:20.660 --> 01:13:22.660] Hundreds maybe even here just in [01:13:22.660 --> 01:13:24.660] This county that listen to your show [01:13:24.660 --> 01:13:26.660] Every day I think [01:13:26.660 --> 01:13:28.660] You have a reasonable chance of getting [01:13:28.660 --> 01:13:30.660] Elected sheriff around here [01:13:30.660 --> 01:13:32.660] This thing about being a big time radio star [01:13:32.660 --> 01:13:34.660] I was in a dollar [01:13:34.660 --> 01:13:36.660] Store in Pasadena California [01:13:36.660 --> 01:13:38.660] I had a shirt and tie on [01:13:38.660 --> 01:13:40.660] And this lady come up to me [01:13:40.660 --> 01:13:42.660] And started asking me where stuff was [01:13:42.660 --> 01:13:44.660] And I told her wait a minute wait a minute [01:13:44.660 --> 01:13:46.660] Reach in my pocket and pull out my press pass [01:13:46.660 --> 01:13:48.660] So look at that look at that I'm a famous radio star [01:13:48.660 --> 01:13:50.660] Don't you recognize me [01:13:50.660 --> 01:13:52.660] Why do you recognize me [01:13:52.660 --> 01:13:54.660] Yeah but they recognize your name [01:13:54.660 --> 01:13:56.660] Okay I'm bringing Eddie back up [01:13:56.660 --> 01:13:58.660] Eddie so you got any more comments [01:13:58.660 --> 01:14:00.660] Yeah what did she [01:14:00.660 --> 01:14:02.660] Say Randy what are you Joe Bob or Billy [01:14:02.660 --> 01:14:04.660] She looked around like she [01:14:04.660 --> 01:14:06.660] Was looking for the guys in the white coat [01:14:08.660 --> 01:14:10.660] No you asked me [01:14:10.660 --> 01:14:12.660] A cost of a Deborah and by the time [01:14:12.660 --> 01:14:14.660] I got around to it it was in the wee a.m. [01:14:14.660 --> 01:14:16.660] But I just want to let you know so far [01:14:16.660 --> 01:14:18.660] All is well I haven't slept since Thursday [01:14:18.660 --> 01:14:20.660] Except for a couple hours last night [01:14:20.660 --> 01:14:22.660] But I'm almost [01:14:22.660 --> 01:14:24.660] Done and my landlord started [01:14:24.660 --> 01:14:26.660] To act more like a real landlord right now [01:14:26.660 --> 01:14:28.660] If you can get my drift [01:14:28.660 --> 01:14:30.660] And I'm pretty sure [01:14:30.660 --> 01:14:32.660] He'd be impressed with however the good news [01:14:32.660 --> 01:14:34.660] Is that all the property [01:14:34.660 --> 01:14:36.660] That was seized by the comptroller [01:14:36.660 --> 01:14:38.660] Is being returned to me [01:14:38.660 --> 01:14:40.660] By my landlord's attorney [01:14:40.660 --> 01:14:42.660] Who told them that they would release it [01:14:42.660 --> 01:14:44.660] Because they'd stolen his building [01:14:44.660 --> 01:14:46.660] As well as my property [01:14:46.660 --> 01:14:48.660] So I have asked him to get his attorney [01:14:48.660 --> 01:14:50.660] To give me a copy of [01:14:50.660 --> 01:14:52.660] Anything he has served upon the comptroller [01:14:52.660 --> 01:14:54.660] Because that will only strengthen my case [01:14:56.660 --> 01:14:58.660] Excellent this is wonderful [01:14:58.660 --> 01:15:00.660] News Eddie and see [01:15:00.660 --> 01:15:02.660] We really can [01:15:02.660 --> 01:15:04.660] Make a difference and we [01:15:04.660 --> 01:15:06.660] These remedies [01:15:06.660 --> 01:15:08.660] Really do work [01:15:08.660 --> 01:15:10.660] Is what we like to hear [01:15:10.660 --> 01:15:12.660] You just got to stay after [01:15:12.660 --> 01:15:14.660] You just have to stay [01:15:14.660 --> 01:15:16.660] Yeah yeah persistence [01:15:16.660 --> 01:15:18.660] Diligence [01:15:18.660 --> 01:15:20.660] I'm going to be headed out to the country where I'm going to lose you [01:15:20.660 --> 01:15:22.660] But y'all have a good show tonight and I will try to be with you [01:15:22.660 --> 01:15:24.660] Randy called me for that conference [01:15:24.660 --> 01:15:26.660] Thursday we discussed [01:15:26.660 --> 01:15:28.660] Right you won't need to show up Wednesday [01:15:28.660 --> 01:15:30.660] Because I'm not going to [01:15:30.660 --> 01:15:32.660] Okay [01:15:32.660 --> 01:15:34.660] Eddie was going to show up in [01:15:34.660 --> 01:15:36.660] Jacksonville to bail me out [01:15:36.660 --> 01:15:38.660] But I'm not going to show up [01:15:38.660 --> 01:15:40.660] I agree I don't think you should go [01:15:40.660 --> 01:15:42.660] Randy [01:15:42.660 --> 01:15:44.660] I don't know how you bailed out a guy in a box the way they're [01:15:44.660 --> 01:15:46.660] Acting down there right now [01:15:46.660 --> 01:15:48.660] Yeah really [01:15:48.660 --> 01:15:50.660] Eddie when you get [01:15:50.660 --> 01:15:52.660] Your computer set up send me a Skype chat [01:15:52.660 --> 01:15:54.660] Will do [01:15:54.660 --> 01:15:56.660] Okay thanks [01:15:56.660 --> 01:15:58.660] Okay bye [01:15:58.660 --> 01:16:00.660] Okay [01:16:00.660 --> 01:16:02.660] Eddie Craig our newest [01:16:02.660 --> 01:16:04.660] Our new co-host on the rule of law [01:16:04.660 --> 01:16:06.660] He'll most likely be [01:16:06.660 --> 01:16:08.660] Joining us for sure [01:16:08.660 --> 01:16:10.660] Every Friday and probably on [01:16:10.660 --> 01:16:12.660] Mondays too so [01:16:12.660 --> 01:16:14.660] Official co-host [01:16:14.660 --> 01:16:16.660] Let's take Cathy [01:16:16.660 --> 01:16:18.660] She's been holding on [01:16:18.660 --> 01:16:20.660] Oh you know what we're going to break [01:16:20.660 --> 01:16:22.660] Cathy we'll take your call as soon as we get back [01:16:22.660 --> 01:16:24.660] On the other side [01:16:24.660 --> 01:16:26.660] Three seconds [01:16:26.660 --> 01:16:28.660] No no she doesn't have three seconds [01:16:28.660 --> 01:16:30.660] Okay this is the 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That's sleepwellinvestment.com or call 817-975-2431. [01:18:10.660 --> 01:18:32.660] ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again. i was blindsided but now i can see your plan. you put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hand. ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again. [01:18:40.660 --> 01:19:07.660] ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again. [01:19:07.660 --> 01:19:34.660] okay we are back. the rule of law, randy kelton and deborah stevens here on rule of law radio. we got here sheriff, we were just speaking with sheriff elect, well not sheriff elect, future sheriff elect, eddie craig and future sheriff elect, randy kelton. [01:19:34.660 --> 01:19:39.660] and we are going to go to kathy in texas now. hey kathy thanks for calling in. what's on your mind tonight? [01:19:39.660 --> 01:19:52.660] well i had a couple of questions about our bad boys in haze county but i am very relieved to hear randy that you are not going to Texas tomorrow. and when you do run for sheriff i will vote for you twice. [01:19:52.660 --> 01:20:11.660] well thank you. because i bet i can. but anyway i think that would be great. i think you need to run in haze county instead. and yet that's you know for personal reasons only because i am very selfish in that way. [01:20:11.660 --> 01:20:19.660] but kathy you know that randy could get a lot more done in travis county because he is the seat of government of the state. [01:20:19.660 --> 01:20:27.660] well i know but he would have to find some way to affect haze a lot because they need affecting quite well. [01:20:27.660 --> 01:20:48.660] talking about jackson though and i will put off my questions because i can always track you down later. but on this thing in jacksonville is there a place that people just people like us can write or call and become like the public voice and say we know what's going on [01:20:48.660 --> 01:20:58.660] and we want you to be aware that everybody in austin is listening to your garbage being aired. do you know this kind of thing? is there something we can jump in there and do that? [01:20:58.660 --> 01:21:01.660] you could call the judge himself. [01:21:01.660 --> 01:21:20.660] you know what i think everyone who wants to do something about this should write a letter concerning this and send it to the police department there in sherekees county and the newspaper and the courts send it to the newspaper. [01:21:20.660 --> 01:21:33.660] it needs to be writing not just phone calls. you need to write and send these people. we need to flood these people's mailbox. we need to flood jacksonville. that's the city right? [01:21:33.660 --> 01:21:51.660] city of jacksonville. if you want to call it a city it's a whatever. city of jacksonville police department. i say we send them so much mail that the mailman starts complaining. [01:21:51.660 --> 01:22:09.660] you know your activities are going out on the air not just in austin but guess what? 15 major cities in the country. minneapolis, st. louis, missouri, all right? [01:22:09.660 --> 01:22:23.660] two falls south dakota, omaha, nebraska, madison wisconsin, tosa, oklahoma, oklahoma city or corvallis oregon. it's like people all over the place know about you guys now. all right? [01:22:23.660 --> 01:22:29.660] what if we wrote to where is it randy that you were going to file? what county? [01:22:29.660 --> 01:22:31.660] sherekees county. [01:22:31.660 --> 01:22:34.660] no but you said you were going to go to the d.a. in your home county. [01:22:34.660 --> 01:22:35.660] oh wyse county. [01:22:35.660 --> 01:22:42.660] wyse county. would it be better to write there because then they won't just throw it in the trash? [01:22:42.660 --> 01:22:46.660] no i think it would be better at sherekees county. [01:22:46.660 --> 01:22:47.660] sherekees county? [01:22:47.660 --> 01:23:07.660] yeah especially if the newspaper and the mayors start getting a lot of bad press they're not going to like that kind of thing and they're going to start looking a little more seriously at the chief of police because the chief of police is the problem here. [01:23:07.660 --> 01:23:08.660] right. [01:23:08.660 --> 01:23:12.660] he's the chief of police here because he can't get a job anywhere else. [01:23:12.660 --> 01:23:19.660] yes but he's in collusion with the judges and all of the cops that work for him and all of that. i mean apparently they're all in it together. [01:23:19.660 --> 01:23:26.660] wait a minute, wait a minute guys i have to interrupt you. we had a guest that we've been expecting to call in and we didn't know exactly when they'd be calling. [01:23:26.660 --> 01:23:45.660] kathy hold on the line we're going to go right back to you but i have to interrupt this conversation to take john bush's call because he's reporting from a very important city meeting tonight concerning the implementation of agenda 21 here in travis county as well as the budgetary crisis here. [01:23:45.660 --> 01:23:46.660] john thanks for calling in. [01:23:46.660 --> 01:23:49.660] give us an update what's going on at the meeting. [01:23:49.660 --> 01:23:51.660] hi nebra. hello everybody. [01:23:51.660 --> 01:24:01.660] yeah so i just left city of austin they held a budgetary hearing to it was basically a town hall or they said it was a town hall in order to get public input. [01:24:01.660 --> 01:24:19.660] but the thing is the way that they ran the meeting they used the delphi seat which is a favorite among collectivists and among new world order agenda 21 type and basically they have a predetermined outcome that they use these different manipulative techniques in order to reach. [01:24:19.660 --> 01:24:32.660] so what happens is it gives the illusion that the public is participating and that they're participating in a democratic process when in reality the only thing that we were allowed to debate were already determined by the city itself. [01:24:32.660 --> 01:24:40.660] so here in the city of austin we're facing a 30 million dollar budget shortfall so the city manager decided to call these town hall meetings. [01:24:40.660 --> 01:24:53.660] but really it's just a big farce because the only items that we were able to discuss and rank as far as which ones we thought should be taken out and which ones we thought should be kept are items that they themselves determined. [01:24:53.660 --> 01:25:05.660] so here in austin we just started a campaign to remove the fluoride from austin's water and i'm sure many listeners know the ills of fluoridation of water not to mention it's forced compulsory medication. [01:25:05.660 --> 01:25:15.660] we also had a campaign last november to stop the city from giving 65 million dollars worth of tax subsidies to a luxury mall up in north austin. [01:25:15.660 --> 01:25:25.660] so now that we have this economic recession and i'll go ahead and quote Rahm Emanuel he said we can't let these crises go to waste. [01:25:25.660 --> 01:25:44.660] so here we have the opportunity that the city is wanting to make a budget short cut. so we have the opportunity to put these terrible issues on the public stock and hopefully let the people know that we're paying a million dollars a year here in austin to basically poison ourselves with fluorosolistic ads. [01:25:44.660 --> 01:25:58.660] so we're here talking about cutting library hours, cutting park hours, cutting community programs, cutting training of the police officers yet we're giving 2 million dollars next year to one of the biggest developers in the country. [01:25:58.660 --> 01:26:06.660] so we showed up to the meeting today it's basically a recon mission they're having another one tomorrow wednesday at 6 30 p.m. at the tony burger center. [01:26:06.660 --> 01:26:14.660] we're encouraging people to show up to that meeting because basically what we're going to do is use the delphi technique against the city. [01:26:14.660 --> 01:26:21.660] so we're going to use the delphi technique to counter the delphi technique itself and basically we're going to op the op and it's going to be very beautiful. [01:26:21.660 --> 01:26:31.660] what we hope to do is encourage a lot of people to show up and basically at every single table they had a mediator which is somebody from the city staff. [01:26:31.660 --> 01:26:42.660] i thought that they might have been more deceptive a lot of the times with the delphi technique the facilitators at the table themselves are agents and they're trained in how to control the way that the discussion and debate is going. [01:26:42.660 --> 01:26:47.660] but this time it was merely just an innocent city worker who was still a city staff and agent of the city. [01:26:47.660 --> 01:26:49.660] they didn't really control they kept people on pad. [01:26:49.660 --> 01:26:55.660] but we want to encourage everybody to come out tomorrow so we can have enough people to have one of us at each one of the tables. [01:26:55.660 --> 01:27:08.660] we're going to come up with a document that says rather than cut library hours there's this cute little girl there because apparently they're planning on cutting a baseball optimist where these children play baseball. [01:27:08.660 --> 01:27:13.660] personally i don't think my personal philosophy is against the state funding programs such as this. [01:27:13.660 --> 01:27:21.660] but i do feel however that we should keep that rather than cutting this little kiddos dream to play baseball down the road. [01:27:21.660 --> 01:27:27.660] we should stop giving two million dollars to the richest developer in the country simon malls and endeavor real estate. [01:27:27.660 --> 01:27:30.660] so we want to have enough people show up that we can have one of our people at the table. [01:27:30.660 --> 01:27:40.660] we can get people to sign on and have a census that the city of austin rather than cut these programs should consider stopping fluoridation, saving a million dollars. [01:27:40.660 --> 01:27:49.660] should consider not giving two million dollars to the domain mall this year because we're not contractually or legally or financially obligated to give that, it's entirely voluntary. [01:27:49.660 --> 01:27:56.660] and we're going to come up with another police state measure like the city of austin shouldn't have the money for these surveillance cameras or what not. [01:27:56.660 --> 01:27:58.660] so we need you to come out and participate. [01:27:58.660 --> 01:28:07.660] so if y'all could come, anybody here in austin or central texas listening, tomorrow at 630 it's going to be at the tony burger center which is 3200 jones road. [01:28:07.660 --> 01:28:16.660] the event starts at 630 but we're encouraging people to show up around 615 so we can get some strategy out to them on how to overcome this delphi technique. [01:28:16.660 --> 01:28:19.660] okay john, let me ask you something real quick. [01:28:19.660 --> 01:28:27.660] okay, you're saying tonight they would not take any public input on anything other than issues that they wanted to bring up. [01:28:27.660 --> 01:28:31.660] were there like microphones, like could the public get up and speak? [01:28:31.660 --> 01:28:33.660] i mean people could just say whatever they wanted. [01:28:33.660 --> 01:28:40.660] in that case how was this thing actually run where people were not, i mean because once i get on the mic i'll say whatever i want. [01:28:40.660 --> 01:28:50.660] i mean even if they don't want me to talk about something that they don't want me to talk about like my lead singer pat says i don't pay rent for my mouth. [01:28:50.660 --> 01:28:52.660] i can say whatever i want. [01:28:52.660 --> 01:28:56.660] so how did they stop people from bringing up these other issues? [01:28:56.660 --> 01:28:59.660] i had a mic in my hand at one point. [01:28:59.660 --> 01:29:07.660] but the whole idea is the entire process was centered around this document that had 30 potential budget cuts. [01:29:07.660 --> 01:29:14.660] these 30 potential budget cuts were the budget cuts that were predetermined by city and the city staff itself and the city department. [01:29:14.660 --> 01:29:16.660] so that's how it's controlled. [01:29:16.660 --> 01:29:21.660] we came to the table to discuss, to basically rank their predetermined budget cuts. [01:29:21.660 --> 01:29:30.660] whenever you say town hall or whenever they say we're calling on the city to show up to these meetings for public input, in my eyes in a true democracy that means that they're opening up, [01:29:30.660 --> 01:29:36.660] they're coming out to the community in different parts of town and they're asking us what we think we should cut. [01:29:36.660 --> 01:29:41.660] the city of austin is saying hey austin resident, hey tax payer, what do you think we should cut? [01:29:41.660 --> 01:29:43.660] that's the way that it's supposed to work. [01:29:43.660 --> 01:29:52.660] at the end, after we did our little breakouts, groups of seven or eight and we ranked their 30 items, they opened up the floor for questions and for cops. [01:29:52.660 --> 01:30:02.660] and at that point a lot of the people, majority of the people were there just seeing their program that they put their life into, that they poured their heart and soul into that's about to be wiped out. [01:30:02.660 --> 01:30:11.660] there was a lot of public service, there's firefighters there, there's a whole program where they help prevent euthanizing of pets. [01:30:11.660 --> 01:30:21.660] and then there was a group of like four or five little young girls in their baseball uniform and their father there who's also the coach, they were there defending their comments. [01:30:21.660 --> 01:30:31.660] so i was sure of course, being the loudmouth that i am, to voice my opinion and i turned around to everybody and said i want everybody to know that you're going to leave here tonight with a warm feeling in your heart. [01:30:31.660 --> 01:30:39.660] you're going to feel like you participated. when the budget gets passed you're going to say hey, i was there that day at gus garcia recreation center, i participated in that. [01:30:39.660 --> 01:30:43.660] this is all just an illusion. they're using the delphi technique here. [01:30:43.660 --> 01:30:52.660] we've only debated the items that they have allowed us to debate. they're not taking our input on these other items. when are we going to be allowed to give our other input? [01:30:52.660 --> 01:31:05.660] well john, how is it going to be any different tomorrow night? is it going to be run differently? will y'all be allowed to give your input on what you want to say tomorrow night? [01:31:05.660 --> 01:31:13.660] and again, i open it up for questions. a couple of people said we should cut this. a lot of people reiterated what i said and brought up the domain. we don't need to give them their two million dollars. [01:31:13.660 --> 01:31:25.660] but the strategy for tomorrow, again, is to off the op. for us to use the delphi technique to our advantage, even though i don't support it and it's very manipulative, we're going to come in and manipulate the manipulator. [01:31:25.660 --> 01:31:36.660] and if we're able to get one person at every single table, and if we're able to get those seven to eight people at each table, a majority of each one of the tables to agree that the city of austin should consider these budget cuts, [01:31:36.660 --> 01:31:52.660] we're going to compile all those documents, try to get them included in the final report of these meetings. if not, we're going to go directly to the council and say, hey, we went to your meeting and everybody at this meeting decided that, agrees that we should at least consider these other central cuts. [01:31:52.660 --> 01:32:07.660] so rather than just saying at the end, hey, mark god, he's our city manager, would you please consider these blah, blah, blah, we're going to use their own meeting, we're going to use their own deceptive and manipulative technique in order to get a consensus that these other items should be considered. [01:32:07.660 --> 01:32:19.660] so that's what we hope to accomplish. and this is a very important thing, people to show up, if you don't want to participate and if you feel shy, you don't necessarily have to take over the group, but just get them to sign off or consider this stuff. [01:32:19.660 --> 01:32:27.660] it's very important to know by technique, because like i said before, of the establishment, yes. [01:32:27.660 --> 01:32:48.660] yeah, okay, you just dropped out for a second. yeah, so like what you were saying earlier, according to rob emmanuel, john, are you saying that what we need is a new pearl harbor? are you saying that the $30 million budgetary crisis here, deficit in austin, is this our new pearl harbor that we can use? [01:32:48.660 --> 01:33:07.660] it is, it is. it's time to get a little dirty. our opposition, they have the power of the state, they have the power of monopoly on coercion, they have the power of the purse as well, but they still continue to use deceitful, manipulative tactics in order to push their agenda. [01:33:07.660 --> 01:33:20.660] what i'm saying now, it's time to stop playing softball and start playing in their league, because we're not going to get anywhere if we, you know, if we got a bongo kumbaya around the fire hoping for them to change, because we asked them nicely. [01:33:20.660 --> 01:33:40.660] so i'm saying, this learning opportunity, and the way that it ties into agenda 21, is the agenda 21 philosophy of sustainable development is being figured out throughout the country and throughout the world for that matter, by simply using the consensus process and using the delphi technique at public meeting. [01:33:40.660 --> 01:33:55.660] so what they're, you know, 100 years from now, we're going to live in a state where private property is abolished, we live in compact cities, and there's different corridors where humans can't even travel through in order to control us, and what they're going to say is, the people asked for this. [01:33:55.660 --> 01:34:05.660] we let the people participate, the people decided that they wanted this. when in reality, it's already been determined by the global biodiversity assessment and agenda 21, they determined it. [01:34:05.660 --> 01:34:14.660] they came together at their united nations meeting, their de janeiro conference, their earth summit, and they determined what the future is going to look like at that point. [01:34:14.660 --> 01:34:34.660] now, since we have these three countries, since we had revolutions 200, 300 years ago, in order to carry out their agenda, in order to re-implement feudal serfdom that we had of the old world order, because as Daniel Eschelin says, the new world order is simply the old world order of feudalism and serfdom and total control of the population. [01:34:34.660 --> 01:34:39.660] this is their primary technique, one of their main techniques, one of their MOs for carrying this out. [01:34:39.660 --> 01:34:56.660] they make it seem like it was a democratic participatory process, and the people are asking for these new smart growth developments, and the people are asking to corridor off entire sections of entire states, people are asking for roads in order to control traffic and freedom of movement. [01:34:56.660 --> 01:35:11.660] when in reality, this predetermined conclusion was reached back in 1993, even more before then, now their implementation process at the local level, basically what they do is they use the Delphi technique, and they manipulate the public input, they manipulate the entire process. [01:35:11.660 --> 01:35:35.660] so please show up tomorrow at 630, because not only do we have an opportunity to raise awareness of our particular issues, the corporate welfare and the domain mall and the fluoridation, the dumbing down, the industry chicanery of the fluoride, but we also have the opportunity to learn firsthand the tactics and the techniques of this elite that's controlling and manipulating our future. [01:35:35.660 --> 01:35:53.660] and what we do, and what my philosophy of activism is, take all their documents, they have so much hubris that they put all this stuff out in the open, take it all, examine it, learn how to fight them by using their own tactics and by understanding the way that they implement things, and hopefully it will bring us one step closer to success. [01:35:53.660 --> 01:36:13.660] Absolutely, and John, I wanted to tell you also, I was so just blown away by the interview that you did last Wednesday with that chemist concerning fluoride, listen, what was his name, John? [01:36:13.660 --> 01:36:18.660] Dr. Paul Conant of fluoridealert.org and the Fluoride Action Network. [01:36:18.660 --> 01:36:42.660] Listeners that are out there listening right now, if you didn't hear John's show last week, you've got to download the archive for sure, for sure, and listen to hour two, if nothing else, because, I mean, and I thought I knew a lot about fluoride, this guy, I mean, it totally blew me out of water, so to speak, no pun intended. [01:36:42.660 --> 01:36:48.660] All right, and I told Randy about the interview and just kind of summarized it for him. [01:36:48.660 --> 01:37:03.660] I don't know if Randy's had a chance to hear it yet, and Randy and I were discussing this, and we think that there is a way that we can use Randy's techniques of criminal complaints and filing charges and motions, even in the civil arena and such, [01:37:03.660 --> 01:37:14.660] because the evidence now has become so overwhelming that literally I want to accuse these people of murder, okay? [01:37:14.660 --> 01:37:27.660] I mean, it's just horrifying, and the fact that the main point that hit me more than anything was when he was talking about the fact that, okay, number one, this is not sodium fluoride. [01:37:27.660 --> 01:37:35.660] This isn't pharmaceutical grade fluoride, even if it was, it's a poison to take it systemically, not topically, okay, but it's not sodium fluoride. [01:37:35.660 --> 01:37:53.660] It is a toxic waste from the fertilizer industry that they scrape off the scrubber brushes of the equipment when they make this toxic chemical fertilizer, [01:37:53.660 --> 01:38:03.660] and it is a toxic waste that, according to the EPA, has to be disposed of in certain manners, and if they don't, the company is fine. [01:38:03.660 --> 01:38:11.660] Okay, they have to pay a lot of money to companies to properly dispose of this extremely hazardous toxic waste. [01:38:11.660 --> 01:38:12.660] Hold on, Randy. [01:38:12.660 --> 01:38:14.660] You don't want it to get in the water. [01:38:14.660 --> 01:38:15.660] Randy, hold on. [01:38:15.660 --> 01:38:17.660] Let me finish this, okay? [01:38:17.660 --> 01:38:21.660] But here was the main point that hit me more than anything. [01:38:21.660 --> 01:38:22.660] Okay, yeah, Randy, exactly. [01:38:22.660 --> 01:38:23.660] They don't want it to get in the water. [01:38:23.660 --> 01:38:24.660] That's exactly right. [01:38:24.660 --> 01:38:32.660] Okay, they don't want it to get in the water, so they have to pay a whole lot of money to get it disposed of properly, all right? [01:38:32.660 --> 01:38:49.660] But, however, under federal law, I think is what this guy was saying, okay, a toxic waste is no longer categorized legally as a toxic waste if they sell it to somebody else. [01:38:49.660 --> 01:38:57.660] Once somebody else purchases it, then it's considered an industrial product, okay? [01:38:57.660 --> 01:39:12.660] And so that's how they, you know, schmooze by and totally defraud us and poison us, all right, by putting toxic waste in the water, [01:39:12.660 --> 01:39:23.660] because instead of just, you know, dumping it in the water, they sell it to the taxpayers to dump in the water, and I'm sorry, that is fraud on its face, all right? [01:39:23.660 --> 01:39:24.660] They're murderers. [01:39:24.660 --> 01:39:31.660] This is a horrible situation, and Randy and I think that we can do something about it in the legal realm, John. [01:39:31.660 --> 01:39:33.660] I mean, this has got to go. [01:39:33.660 --> 01:39:39.660] Yeah, in Texas, we have a state law that says it's illegal and it can be punishable. [01:39:39.660 --> 01:39:48.660] It's a crime to put deleterious material in the water, and the actual definition of deleterious is something that causes harm without people knowing it. [01:39:48.660 --> 01:39:50.660] That's exactly what fluoride is. [01:39:50.660 --> 01:39:51.660] Yes. [01:39:51.660 --> 01:39:58.660] And it's those holistic acids that we're putting in the water here in the City of Austin, those holistic acids. [01:39:58.660 --> 01:40:01.660] John, will you get me the statute number on that? [01:40:01.660 --> 01:40:02.660] Sure. [01:40:02.660 --> 01:40:04.660] That's in the penal code, right? [01:40:04.660 --> 01:40:08.660] Yeah, and then there's federal clean, I'm not sure if it's in the penal code or not. [01:40:08.660 --> 01:40:10.660] Oh, it's in the federal code. [01:40:10.660 --> 01:40:12.660] No, no, no, there's a state law. [01:40:12.660 --> 01:40:17.660] I was going to say there's also federal environmental laws against putting stuff like the Federal Clean Water Act or something, [01:40:17.660 --> 01:40:25.660] and then you also have city laws and city ordinances that prevent material, hazard material from entering into water municipalities. [01:40:25.660 --> 01:40:32.660] But the beauty of it all, and this is a problem that we face in so many different aspects of this whole liberty versus tyranny fight, [01:40:32.660 --> 01:40:38.660] is the joy of the state is that they have the intellectuals working for them. [01:40:38.660 --> 01:40:40.660] And this is another thing Murray Rothbard always talks about. [01:40:40.660 --> 01:40:43.660] The state always has intellectuals, a crew of intellectuals. [01:40:43.660 --> 01:40:45.660] The early state, the intellectuals, was the priesthood. [01:40:45.660 --> 01:40:50.660] Basically, they would say the king has divine rights to rule over you, so don't question it. [01:40:50.660 --> 01:40:52.660] Well, that doesn't work anymore, especially here in America. [01:40:52.660 --> 01:40:58.660] So what they had to do is bring in all these experts, all these industry experts, to convince the American public that this is so [01:40:58.660 --> 01:41:01.660] and that the state is legitimate and these programs are legitimate. [01:41:01.660 --> 01:41:04.660] And we see the exact same thing happening with the whole global warming debate. [01:41:04.660 --> 01:41:10.660] There's a reason why there's so many scientists coming out and saying that global warming is anthropogenic [01:41:10.660 --> 01:41:15.660] and that it's made by carbon emissions, because that's where all the money is directed to. [01:41:15.660 --> 01:41:17.660] The money is directed to the programs that are saying that. [01:41:17.660 --> 01:41:20.660] It's called junk science. It's called junk science. [01:41:20.660 --> 01:41:28.660] That's right. So it's very difficult to go up against the status quo, because anybody that's reasonable and uses logic, [01:41:28.660 --> 01:41:31.660] if you sit down and chat with them, then if they were to start with a clean slate [01:41:31.660 --> 01:41:34.660] and you were to say, hey, check out this evidence that I have on fluoride, [01:41:34.660 --> 01:41:38.660] it actually increases the risk of osteoscaroma, which is bone cancer. [01:41:38.660 --> 01:41:42.660] It messes with the endocrine system. It decreases young children. [01:41:42.660 --> 01:41:43.660] Here's all these studies. [01:41:43.660 --> 01:41:48.660] A clean slate, they would say, wow, what are you talking about putting this in my water? This is crazy. [01:41:48.660 --> 01:41:55.660] However, we all grow up as Americans with our doctors and our dentists saying that this is good for you. [01:41:55.660 --> 01:41:57.660] This is okay. This is normal. This is the way to do. [01:41:57.660 --> 01:42:03.660] And that was actually part of a massive propaganda campaign back in the 50s led by Edward L. Bernays, [01:42:03.660 --> 01:42:09.660] who is known as the father of modern propaganda, who also happens to be Sigmund Freud's nephew. [01:42:09.660 --> 01:42:17.660] He said in order to push this to the public, we should appeal to authority figures for people. [01:42:17.660 --> 01:42:22.660] And he specifically states that people put authority and people vest their trust in doctors and dentists, [01:42:22.660 --> 01:42:25.660] because we can just convince the doctors and dentists through their schooling, [01:42:25.660 --> 01:42:28.660] which of course is all controlled by the state for the most part, through schooling, [01:42:28.660 --> 01:42:33.660] then we can convince the people rather than having to hit the people single-handedly. [01:42:33.660 --> 01:42:37.660] And it's interesting, this whole process of fluoridation got brought through industry [01:42:37.660 --> 01:42:42.660] because they were using the steam industry during World War II, had to use fluoride. [01:42:42.660 --> 01:42:48.660] In order to enrich uranium during the Manhattan Project, we were using a whole lot of fluoride. [01:42:48.660 --> 01:42:53.660] So people were starting to get sick. Towns were starting to be destroyed by a fluoride leak. [01:42:53.660 --> 01:42:56.660] And rather than have to deal with that, slow down our Manhattan Project, [01:42:56.660 --> 01:43:00.660] and God forbid, not just a particular weapon, or slow down the steel industry, [01:43:00.660 --> 01:43:03.660] and God forbid, people not be able to make their millions, [01:43:03.660 --> 01:43:08.660] they simply convinced the entire American public through lots of nice little pictures of girls with shiny teeth [01:43:08.660 --> 01:43:12.660] that fluoridation is good for the public health and it helps out the poor people. [01:43:12.660 --> 01:43:16.660] And basically here we are today where it's difficult and you get laughed at. [01:43:16.660 --> 01:43:19.660] Not only that, but they also turned it into a conspiracy theory too, [01:43:19.660 --> 01:43:25.660] and the media makes it a point to say that this is a fringe element that tries to push stuff. [01:43:25.660 --> 01:43:31.660] Case in point, John, the movie Dr. Strangelove. [01:43:31.660 --> 01:43:42.660] The psychopathic general who sent out the order for the planes to set off the nukes and bomb Russia, [01:43:42.660 --> 01:43:48.660] there was like a 15-minute segment of the movie where he was talking about the evils of fluoridating the water. [01:43:48.660 --> 01:43:54.660] So there you go, Hollywood, the media controlled by the government, [01:43:54.660 --> 01:44:03.660] psychologically framed and depicted someone who was concerned about the poisons of fluoride [01:44:03.660 --> 01:44:07.660] and put him in a role of being a total psychopath. [01:44:07.660 --> 01:44:09.660] So yeah, this has been going on for a long time. [01:44:09.660 --> 01:44:14.660] And one thing that you all didn't mention on the show, I was almost going to call in and mention this, [01:44:14.660 --> 01:44:19.660] Hitler was one of the first ones who ever put fluoride in the water [01:44:19.660 --> 01:44:25.660] because the scientists had been able to determine that it makes the population docile. [01:44:25.660 --> 01:44:28.660] And guess what? I have fluoride filters. [01:44:28.660 --> 01:44:30.660] I don't drink fluoridated water. [01:44:30.660 --> 01:44:36.660] That's why I'm always ranting and pissed off towards the government and doing something about it [01:44:36.660 --> 01:44:40.660] because I'm not docile because I don't drink the fluoride. [01:44:40.660 --> 01:44:46.660] And John, just one other thing I wanted to tell you, if this is Texas criminal law, [01:44:46.660 --> 01:44:49.660] if this is a crime, what you're saying, then it will be in the penal code. [01:44:49.660 --> 01:44:58.660] And it won't matter if there is federal law that categorizes the toxic waste as a product. [01:44:58.660 --> 01:45:07.660] If it's sold, it doesn't matter because there's state law that says that they can't put these poisons [01:45:07.660 --> 01:45:12.660] in the water without people knowing about it. [01:45:12.660 --> 01:45:13.660] That's right. [01:45:13.660 --> 01:45:16.660] And we'd definitely love to work with you all and get some advice on how to go forward with that [01:45:16.660 --> 01:45:22.660] because I think it's a wonderful tool to help out with our lobbying campaigns to always have the threat there. [01:45:22.660 --> 01:45:27.660] Well, if you guys don't listen to us, then we're simply going to take you to court because you're breaking the law. [01:45:27.660 --> 01:45:28.660] I think it's a very powerful tool too. [01:45:28.660 --> 01:45:33.660] And hell, maybe we might even go through with it and take them to court. [01:45:33.660 --> 01:45:37.660] Well, we'll file criminal charges against them in front of the grand jury. [01:45:37.660 --> 01:45:39.660] We'll sue them. [01:45:39.660 --> 01:45:41.660] You know what? [01:45:41.660 --> 01:45:43.660] We'll lien their bonds. [01:45:43.660 --> 01:45:45.660] That's what we'll do. [01:45:45.660 --> 01:45:48.660] That'll put a stop to it. [01:45:48.660 --> 01:45:53.660] Randy is into the criminal complaint thing, and I agree with that too. [01:45:53.660 --> 01:46:01.660] And the grand juries and all that, we'll try to get these, we can try to threaten to attempt to get these people indicted [01:46:01.660 --> 01:46:10.660] and say, look, you guys may get indicted, you know, for doing this, but if that isn't enough of a threat, how about this? [01:46:10.660 --> 01:46:20.660] We can show that these officials have harmed us, and that means we have standing to file liens on their bonds. [01:46:20.660 --> 01:46:26.660] And what that means is they can't be a public official if we lien their bonds. [01:46:26.660 --> 01:46:34.660] Okay, the bond-leaning thing, I'm starting to get into this commercial law now, and they talk about this on the Agenda 21 talk, okay? [01:46:34.660 --> 01:46:36.660] These guys are getting it down. [01:46:36.660 --> 01:46:43.660] And Wendy in Tennessee, one of our frequent callers, and she's a guest frequently here and on the Agenda 21 talk, [01:46:43.660 --> 01:46:49.660] she practically shut down the county where she's at, Blount County in Tennessee. [01:46:49.660 --> 01:46:52.660] She shut down the courthouse because she leans people's bonds. [01:46:52.660 --> 01:46:53.660] They're open again. [01:46:53.660 --> 01:47:00.660] But it's like, you know, in the commercial realm, you hit them on a whole different level. [01:47:00.660 --> 01:47:01.660] It's like hitting them below the belt. [01:47:01.660 --> 01:47:10.660] Remember what you were saying earlier, John, about, okay, you crack me up, bongos and kumbaya around the fire asking them to change? [01:47:10.660 --> 01:47:13.660] No, it's like we have to start playing hardball. [01:47:13.660 --> 01:47:18.660] We have to start playing the way they play, ruthless. [01:47:18.660 --> 01:47:23.660] I'm talking ruthless to the core because this is a matter of survival. [01:47:23.660 --> 01:47:24.660] They're trying to kill us. [01:47:24.660 --> 01:47:25.660] All right? [01:47:25.660 --> 01:47:26.660] So lean your bonds. [01:47:26.660 --> 01:47:28.660] We're going to do that too, John. [01:47:28.660 --> 01:47:29.660] Great. [01:47:29.660 --> 01:47:36.660] I could file a civil action against him claiming a cause of action that the fluoride has made me docile. [01:47:36.660 --> 01:47:44.660] If it had not made me docile, I would have pinched your head off by now. [01:47:44.660 --> 01:47:56.660] And I've tried to find a source, the primary source material for the fluoridation of the water in the concentration camps. [01:47:56.660 --> 01:47:59.660] And also I've heard that Stalin did it in his gulags. [01:47:59.660 --> 01:48:05.660] However, I haven't been able to find any primary source material, unfortunately. [01:48:05.660 --> 01:48:07.660] But that's not to say that it's not out there. [01:48:07.660 --> 01:48:09.660] Perhaps I just haven't dig deep enough. [01:48:09.660 --> 01:48:14.660] But I mean, of course, I believe it to be true. [01:48:14.660 --> 01:48:18.660] But as far as factual, I haven't found the fact to prove that quite yet. [01:48:18.660 --> 01:48:20.660] It makes perfect sense if you ask me. [01:48:20.660 --> 01:48:21.660] There's a whole other element. [01:48:21.660 --> 01:48:30.660] I mean, it started off as industry needed an excuse to dispose of it so they didn't have to pay for it all and pay for all these lawsuits and whatnot. [01:48:30.660 --> 01:48:33.660] But there's definitely an element there that, sure, it's slowing down our children. [01:48:33.660 --> 01:48:39.660] And it fits into the bigger agenda of establishing their global order. [01:48:39.660 --> 01:48:43.660] And the people are going to get in the way of that, of course, because people like their sovereignty. [01:48:43.660 --> 01:48:44.660] People like their civil liberties. [01:48:44.660 --> 01:48:46.660] People like their Constitution. [01:48:46.660 --> 01:48:50.660] So in order to slow us all down, of course, yeah, why not slow them down? [01:48:50.660 --> 01:48:51.660] Okay, wait a minute. [01:48:51.660 --> 01:48:57.660] Okay, I just got a chat from our producer here. [01:48:57.660 --> 01:49:02.660] He's saying that health – okay, this is a state statute. [01:49:02.660 --> 01:49:04.660] I'm going to read this to you. [01:49:04.660 --> 01:49:05.660] Okay. [01:49:05.660 --> 01:49:20.660] Health and Safety Code Subchapter C, Sanitary Standards of Drinking Water, Protection of Public Water Supplies and Bodies of Water, Section 341.031, Public Drinking Water. [01:49:20.660 --> 01:49:26.660] A, public drinking water must be free from deleterious matter – [01:49:26.660 --> 01:49:27.660] I don't know how to pronounce it. [01:49:27.660 --> 01:49:29.660] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:49:29.660 --> 01:49:33.660] I'm having trouble here because the monitor is a little bit far away from my mic – [01:49:33.660 --> 01:49:40.660] and must comply with the standards established by the Commission or the United States Environmental Protection Agency. [01:49:40.660 --> 01:49:47.660] The Commission may adopt and enforce rules to implement the Federal Safe Drinking Water Act. [01:49:47.660 --> 01:49:54.660] Okay, now this says they have to comply – basically they have to comply with the EPA. [01:49:54.660 --> 01:50:04.660] Now, John, didn't you say – weren't you and your guests talking last Wednesday about the fact that the EPA has declared fluoride hazardous [01:50:04.660 --> 01:50:11.660] and they even regulate and they're even debating over whether it should be one part per million or four parts per million, et cetera? [01:50:11.660 --> 01:50:18.660] No, it was the National Research Council that said that it should be lowered from four parts per million. [01:50:18.660 --> 01:50:26.660] But here's the problem and by all means I support it and I think it's an important tactic to file up charges, to bring them before a grand jury. [01:50:26.660 --> 01:50:34.660] But again, the status quo and the consensus now among the smartest scientists in the world and the CDC and the American Dental Association [01:50:34.660 --> 01:50:43.660] and the Environmental Protection Agency, that putting fluoride in at one part per million or four parts per million or less is not in fact harmful. [01:50:43.660 --> 01:50:49.660] So what happens if we were to go through this judicial route, it's going to end up being expert versus expert [01:50:49.660 --> 01:50:55.660] and unfortunately people are conditioned to side with the experts of authority, which of course are with the state. [01:50:55.660 --> 01:51:03.660] So I think it's definitely a wonderful tactic and it will hold their feet to the fire and it's something that we should use to hit them from all angles. [01:51:03.660 --> 01:51:07.660] But I see what that boils down to is, okay, well then prove to us that it's purely serious. [01:51:07.660 --> 01:51:13.660] Okay, well we'll bring in Dr. Paul Conn as toxicologist, we'll bring in our expert, they're going to bring in their own industry expert, [01:51:13.660 --> 01:51:18.660] their bought and paid for expert and usually as history has shown they're just going to shoot us down. [01:51:18.660 --> 01:51:25.660] Well, okay, in a way you may be right, John, but the thing is it's like a lot of people ask Randy, [01:51:25.660 --> 01:51:29.660] well how many public officials have you ever gotten indicted? [01:51:29.660 --> 01:51:39.660] The answer is none, but the thing is his tactics cause so, they wreck so much havoc into the system [01:51:39.660 --> 01:51:46.660] that they end up accomplishing the main goal, which is to get them to stop doing whatever the heck that they're doing [01:51:46.660 --> 01:51:52.660] that is violating our rights and harming us because that's ultimately the outcome that we want. [01:51:52.660 --> 01:52:00.660] All right, and if, and agreed, okay, it may be experts versus experts, okay, and as far as like grand juries [01:52:00.660 --> 01:52:05.660] and indictments and stuff, of course that would be very difficult, but it would also be a grave threat [01:52:05.660 --> 01:52:10.660] because that's the threat of jail and like Randy says, it's like playing Russian roulette. [01:52:10.660 --> 01:52:17.660] Most likely not, they're not going to get indicted, but what about that one chance that they will, okay? [01:52:17.660 --> 01:52:20.660] It's, you know, who wants to play Russian roulette, you know what I'm saying? [01:52:20.660 --> 01:52:25.660] And the thing with leaning the bonds, if they, if we can show that there is damage, [01:52:25.660 --> 01:52:33.660] all we have to do is basically assert that there's damage and the thing is with the process of leaning the bonds, [01:52:33.660 --> 01:52:39.660] you file these paperwork and if they don't refute it, then it's considered a matter of public record [01:52:39.660 --> 01:52:46.660] and that they've accepted the claim and that means it's already a done deal and it doesn't even need to be adjudicated [01:52:46.660 --> 01:52:50.660] and that's where you get the standing and the ground to lean the bonds, okay? [01:52:50.660 --> 01:52:55.660] So it's like we just hit them with these, with all these different angles and we just pressure them, [01:52:55.660 --> 01:53:00.660] pressure them, pressure them, pressure them until we get our way. [01:53:00.660 --> 01:53:05.660] Yeah, you're right. Yeah, and bringing it to the court also, it raises public awareness [01:53:05.660 --> 01:53:08.660] because the media will get involved and it will allow people to question like, [01:53:08.660 --> 01:53:12.660] wait a second, what, they're taking people to court, what's this fluoride thing? [01:53:12.660 --> 01:53:15.660] I thought fluoride was okay, maybe I'll look into it myself. [01:53:15.660 --> 01:53:17.660] That definitely has a virtue without a doubt, for sure. [01:53:17.660 --> 01:53:22.660] Randy, is the health and safety code, is that on the civil side of law or the criminal side of law? [01:53:22.660 --> 01:53:24.660] It'll depend on the code itself. [01:53:24.660 --> 01:53:31.660] The code will pretty well tell whether something is a crime or not. [01:53:31.660 --> 01:53:36.660] If they violate something in the health and safety code and it's designated a crime, [01:53:36.660 --> 01:53:43.660] like what they charged me was designated a civil offense or it wasn't designated anything, just said you could be fined, [01:53:43.660 --> 01:53:46.660] it would have to designate it a criminal act. [01:53:46.660 --> 01:53:48.660] Okay, we'll have to look at the code and see. [01:53:48.660 --> 01:53:57.660] Well, unless you can show that, if you can show that a public official violated a law relating to his office, [01:53:57.660 --> 01:54:01.660] it doesn't have to be designated a crime. [01:54:01.660 --> 01:54:07.660] The violation of any law relating to a public official's office is a Class A misdemeanor. [01:54:07.660 --> 01:54:14.660] 3903 makes it a crime for a public official to violate a law relating to his office [01:54:14.660 --> 01:54:17.660] or fail to perform a duty he's required to perform. [01:54:17.660 --> 01:54:23.660] And if a public official is required to ensure the safety of the drinking water and he doesn't do that, [01:54:23.660 --> 01:54:25.660] then I'm harmed as a result. [01:54:25.660 --> 01:54:30.660] Well, see, the thing is, and I'm not even so sure that it's going to go down to a matter of experts versus experts [01:54:30.660 --> 01:54:40.660] because the bottom line is the city is purchasing hazardous toxic waste from these fertilizer corporations [01:54:40.660 --> 01:54:46.660] that otherwise would have to pay exorbitant amounts of money to dispose of properly. [01:54:46.660 --> 01:54:50.660] So from the get-go, it's a hazardous waste straight up. [01:54:50.660 --> 01:54:51.660] That's all there is to it. [01:54:51.660 --> 01:54:55.660] There's no room for any debate. [01:54:55.660 --> 01:55:00.660] Yeah, they say Dr. Paul Conant brought up a nice little play on words. [01:55:00.660 --> 01:55:04.660] They say the solution to pollution is dilution. [01:55:04.660 --> 01:55:08.660] So rather than have to, you know, if they take those gallons, you know, [01:55:08.660 --> 01:55:13.660] thousands of gallons of fluoride and toss it into the ocean or into the Colorado River, then it's pollution. [01:55:13.660 --> 01:55:18.660] But if they give it to us one part per million at a time, then it's simply diluting it. [01:55:18.660 --> 01:55:24.660] And again, the EPA and all the government scientists say that it's okay at one part per million. [01:55:24.660 --> 01:55:26.660] Okay, good. [01:55:26.660 --> 01:55:33.660] Okay, so even if we want to entertain these rogues with that kind of line of thinking that they have, [01:55:33.660 --> 01:55:38.660] then why are they making the taxpayers pay for it? [01:55:38.660 --> 01:55:41.660] Okay, then just do it then. [01:55:41.660 --> 01:55:43.660] Don't make us pay for it. [01:55:43.660 --> 01:55:45.660] Why are you making us pay for it? [01:55:45.660 --> 01:55:49.660] Okay, if the solution to the pollution is the dilution [01:55:49.660 --> 01:55:52.660] and they otherwise would have to pay to have it properly disposed of, [01:55:52.660 --> 01:55:56.660] then just pay to have it disposed of however you think you should, [01:55:56.660 --> 01:55:58.660] even if it means doping in the water. [01:55:58.660 --> 01:56:00.660] Don't make me pay for it. [01:56:00.660 --> 01:56:05.660] They need human beings to process their toxic waste for them. [01:56:05.660 --> 01:56:07.660] Give me a break. [01:56:07.660 --> 01:56:08.660] It's like we're pigs. [01:56:08.660 --> 01:56:14.660] And then there's a whole other aspect just on the surface, on the face of it all. [01:56:14.660 --> 01:56:16.660] It's compulsory medication. [01:56:16.660 --> 01:56:19.660] It's the only thing that's added to our water that has a health benefit. [01:56:19.660 --> 01:56:22.660] Everything else is added to the water to clean the water and purify the water [01:56:22.660 --> 01:56:24.660] and take chemicals out of the water. [01:56:24.660 --> 01:56:28.660] This one is an actual medicine that's supposed to help medicate us. [01:56:28.660 --> 01:56:32.660] And they can't control the dosage. [01:56:32.660 --> 01:56:37.660] That's right, because people eat vegetables and fluoride is in juices, fluoride is on lettuce. [01:56:37.660 --> 01:56:39.660] Lettuce has a high concentration of fluoride. [01:56:39.660 --> 01:56:40.660] Here's the thing that happens. [01:56:40.660 --> 01:56:43.660] Whenever you wash off your fruit or you wash your lettuce under the water, [01:56:43.660 --> 01:56:50.660] the fluorine compound, I'm sorry, it doesn't break down, the fluoride compound, [01:56:50.660 --> 01:56:54.660] it attaches itself to the fluoride compound on the lettuce. [01:56:54.660 --> 01:56:56.660] So you get double the fluoride. [01:56:56.660 --> 01:57:00.660] Rather than that water flow off and the fluoride compounds go down the drain with it, [01:57:00.660 --> 01:57:05.660] those fluoride compounds that come in contact with fluoride compounds that are already on the lettuce, [01:57:05.660 --> 01:57:09.660] they bond together and you get more fluoride for your brain. [01:57:09.660 --> 01:57:10.660] You're quite beautiful. [01:57:10.660 --> 01:57:16.660] You hear that, people? You hear that, people? Don't order salads in restaurants anymore. [01:57:16.660 --> 01:57:19.660] Don't wash your salads, people. [01:57:19.660 --> 01:57:21.660] Wash your, yeah, yeah. [01:57:21.660 --> 01:57:23.660] Well, you know, I'll tell you what. [01:57:23.660 --> 01:57:28.660] It's like I do wash my vegetables with my non-fluoridated water, you know, [01:57:28.660 --> 01:57:32.660] but it's like if you're going to grow a garden, what are you going to do? [01:57:32.660 --> 01:57:36.660] Yeah, you need water unless you get an entire fluoride filter for your whole house. [01:57:36.660 --> 01:57:41.660] So whenever you're watering your organic garden with fluoridated water, it's no longer organic, unfortunately. [01:57:41.660 --> 01:57:42.660] Don't give it to your pets. [01:57:42.660 --> 01:57:46.660] I don't give fluoridated water to my pets. [01:57:46.660 --> 01:57:50.660] Yeah, I'm so broke sometimes that I can't afford to buy bottled water or filters, [01:57:50.660 --> 01:57:52.660] so I drink the fluoridated water. [01:57:52.660 --> 01:57:58.660] Meanwhile, I'm going on a crusade to stop it and every single time I pour that tap water out, I'm like, oh. [01:57:58.660 --> 01:58:02.660] Well, you know what, John, we're going to be getting a water sponsor, [01:58:02.660 --> 01:58:08.660] I mean a water filter sponsor here pretty soon, so when we do that, you know, [01:58:08.660 --> 01:58:17.660] we'll be able to get some deals regarding, you know, getting some good fluoride filters for everybody. [01:58:17.660 --> 01:58:18.660] That's a good plan. [01:58:18.660 --> 01:58:24.660] See, and there, again, originally it was intended to help out the underprivileged and the poor folks [01:58:24.660 --> 01:58:29.660] who couldn't afford proper dental care, but really it's hurting the underprivileged and the poor folks [01:58:29.660 --> 01:58:33.660] who couldn't afford the alternatives that many other people can't afford. [01:58:33.660 --> 01:58:35.660] Okay, well, listen, John, I'm sorry. [01:58:35.660 --> 01:58:36.660] We have to go. [01:58:36.660 --> 01:58:37.660] We've only got 10 seconds left. 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