[00:00.000 --> 00:10.080]  Major General Curtis Scaparrotti, the incoming general in charge of U.S. troops along the
[00:10.080 --> 00:16.600]  Pakistan-Afghanistan border, vowed Wednesday to be careful in the use of future airstrikes.
[00:16.600 --> 00:22.660]  The Afghan government says 140 civilians died May 4th in a U.S. airstrike.
[00:22.660 --> 00:29.240]  The Organization of American States Thursday agreed to officially reverse its 1962 decision
[00:29.240 --> 00:31.800]  to expel Cuba from the group.
[00:31.800 --> 00:36.760]  The U.S. was reportedly pressing for Cuba to require democratic reforms and improve
[00:36.760 --> 00:40.760]  respect for human rights as a precondition.
[00:40.760 --> 00:47.180]  A new audio tape released by Osama Bin Laden Wednesday blames Barack Obama for the bloodshed
[00:47.180 --> 00:51.320]  and humanitarian disaster in Pakistan's Swat Valley.
[00:51.320 --> 00:56.560]  Bin Laden said the U.S. pressure on Pakistan that led to the Swat Valley offensive had
[00:56.560 --> 01:06.200]  generated new seeds of hatred and revenge against America.
[01:06.200 --> 01:11.480]  German Chancellor Angela Merkel, in a rare public rebuke of central banks, suggested
[01:11.480 --> 01:18.160]  the European Central Bank, ECB, and its counterparts in the U.S. and Britain have gone too far
[01:18.160 --> 01:23.280]  in fighting the financial crisis and may be laying the groundwork for another financial
[01:23.280 --> 01:24.280]  blow-up.
[01:24.280 --> 01:29.600]  Merkel said, quote, we must return together to an independent central bank policy and
[01:29.600 --> 01:35.040]  to a policy of reason, otherwise we will be in exactly the same situation in 10 years
[01:35.040 --> 01:36.040]  time.
[01:36.040 --> 01:41.320]  Merkel also said the ECB bowed to international pressure when it said last month it plans
[01:41.320 --> 01:47.480]  to buy $85 billion in corporate bonds, a move that is modest in comparison to asset buying
[01:47.480 --> 01:51.880]  by the U.S. Federal Reserve and the Bank of England.
[01:51.880 --> 01:58.040]  Europe and the 16 countries that share the euro rose to 9.2 percent in April but is still
[01:58.040 --> 02:08.320]  below the 11.5 percent the European Commission forecasts for 2010.
[02:08.320 --> 02:13.800]  A federal judge Wednesday dismissed lawsuits targeting the nation's telecom companies
[02:13.800 --> 02:18.700]  for their participation in George Bush's once-secret eavesdropping program.
[02:18.700 --> 02:24.700]  In his ruling, U.S. District Judge Vaughan Walker upheld legislation protecting the companies
[02:24.700 --> 02:26.120]  from the lawsuits.
[02:26.120 --> 02:31.640]  The legislation also granted the government authority to monitor Americans' telecommunications
[02:31.640 --> 02:38.040]  without warrants if the subject was communicating with somebody overseas suspected of terrorism.
[02:38.040 --> 02:43.600]  Bush claimed the so-called terror surveillance program gave him the authority to spy without
[02:43.600 --> 02:45.840]  court authorization.
[02:45.840 --> 02:50.880]  Walker's decision ends more than three years of litigation accusing the nation's carriers
[02:50.880 --> 02:56.600]  of funneling Americans' electronic communications to the Bush administration without warrants
[02:56.600 --> 02:58.400]  in the aftermath of 9-11.
[02:58.400 --> 03:09.400]  You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com, live free speech
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[03:40.000 --> 03:42.620]  BADBOYS!
[03:42.620 --> 03:44.440]  BADBOYS!
[03:44.440 --> 03:48.740]  Whatcha gonna do?
[03:48.740 --> 04:00.700]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:00.700 --> 04:03.440]  Badboys, badboys, whatcha gonna do?
[04:03.440 --> 04:06.280]  Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:06.280 --> 04:18.160]  Alright, Bad Boys, Bad Boys, what are you going to do when we come for you?
[04:18.160 --> 04:23.920]  Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Thomas James, and Barry Cooper.
[04:23.920 --> 04:29.520]  We have got a great show lined up for you guys tonight.
[04:29.520 --> 04:36.240]  We have Thomas James, one of our newest sponsors, our newest sponsor actually, from HempUSA.org.
[04:36.240 --> 04:44.120]  He is calling in tonight and he is going to be our guest for the first part of the show
[04:44.120 --> 04:49.680]  and then Barry Cooper is going to be calling in at 8.15 and so we are going to have a great
[04:49.680 --> 04:55.480]  show tonight talking about the war on drugs and also hemp, the difference between hemp
[04:55.480 --> 04:58.640]  and marijuana and such, so we want to welcome Thomas James to the show.
[04:58.640 --> 04:59.880]  Thank you for calling in, Thomas.
[04:59.880 --> 05:00.880]  Oh, Deb, it's great.
[05:00.880 --> 05:01.880]  Thanks for having me on.
[05:01.880 --> 05:02.880]  I am ready to go.
[05:02.880 --> 05:07.960]  Let's educate America and the world about what hemp is and what it can do for their
[05:07.960 --> 05:09.280]  body and their brain.
[05:09.280 --> 05:10.280]  Absolutely.
[05:10.280 --> 05:16.240]  So why don't you start off and give us the goods, so to speak, Thomas.
[05:16.240 --> 05:22.080]  Well basically what I want to let everyone know is the nomenclature has been just, it's
[05:22.080 --> 05:25.520]  been deception for the last 72 years.
[05:25.520 --> 05:28.920]  Hemp has been in prohibition longer than even alcohol.
[05:28.920 --> 05:31.520]  I think alcohol was 12 or 13 years.
[05:31.520 --> 05:37.240]  Alcohol hemp has been in prohibition and hemp food has been in prohibition for 72 years.
[05:37.240 --> 05:39.080]  We're not allowed to grow it here.
[05:39.080 --> 05:45.040]  We're allowed to import it and it has to be 100% THC free and our products are, but what
[05:45.040 --> 05:51.160]  I wanted to tell everybody is hemp is not marijuana and marijuana is not hemp.
[05:51.160 --> 05:57.600]  They are two totally distinctly different plants, different varieties of the same species.
[05:57.600 --> 05:59.000]  So I want to get that out of the way.
[05:59.000 --> 06:04.280]  They've hidden the hemp food plant behind the marijuana plant for years because they
[06:04.280 --> 06:10.000]  don't want the competition in the petrochemical industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the
[06:10.000 --> 06:11.920]  oil industry and the building industry.
[06:11.920 --> 06:13.360]  They don't want to let go of their profits.
[06:13.360 --> 06:16.320]  You know what I'm talking about, Deb?
[06:16.320 --> 06:19.000]  Oh absolutely.
[06:19.000 --> 06:26.560]  So I really think the most important thing is we need to know that and this food is the
[06:26.560 --> 06:30.200]  most densely nutrient food on the planet.
[06:30.200 --> 06:38.160]  It's grown in every country, every continent except Antarctica and it was in everybody's
[06:38.160 --> 06:43.680]  cereal 100 years ago and why are we the only industrialized nation in America not allowed
[06:43.680 --> 06:48.960]  to grow it and this is one of the things that people need to rant and rave about and get
[06:48.960 --> 06:56.360]  it legalized so we can grow it here and have our children healthy as they're growing up.
[06:56.360 --> 07:01.680]  Will you kind of give us a rundown on the health benefits of hemp?
[07:01.680 --> 07:02.680]  Yeah absolutely.
[07:02.680 --> 07:08.080]  First of all, our powder is the highest protein powder and I'm not talking about the hemp
[07:08.080 --> 07:12.360]  powder found on the shelves of the health food stores in this country, I'm talking about
[07:12.360 --> 07:19.520]  the product that I import from Canada has the highest protein content of any green food
[07:19.520 --> 07:20.520]  in the world.
[07:20.520 --> 07:23.360]  It's up to 53.5%.
[07:23.360 --> 07:28.040]  We have very specific sifting processes where we sift out most of the fiber and we turn
[07:28.040 --> 07:29.480]  it into a cake powder.
[07:29.480 --> 07:35.720]  It's very heavy, very dense and it is not a flour, it's a cake powder.
[07:35.720 --> 07:41.240]  Most of the ones you find on the shelves at the health food stores are flours and they're
[07:41.240 --> 07:42.520]  void of a lot of things.
[07:42.520 --> 07:48.560]  Now here's the thing, we in this food, we have all of the amino acids including all
[07:48.560 --> 07:49.560]  the essentials.
[07:49.560 --> 07:52.600]  22 aminos are found in the hemp powder.
[07:52.600 --> 07:54.620]  We have the highest protein content.
[07:54.620 --> 08:00.080]  We have all the digestive enzymes you need to digest your food and break down the protein
[08:00.080 --> 08:03.440]  so you can feed the nutrients to the rest of the body.
[08:03.440 --> 08:09.200]  We have all the essential fatty acids you need for growing brain cells and leaving the
[08:09.200 --> 08:14.920]  arteries stretchable and supple and allowing the blood to flow and become rich again because
[08:14.920 --> 08:20.760]  it's so densely nutrient, it'll turn your brain on and that's the kind of thank you
[08:20.760 --> 08:24.640]  letters I get and testimonies I get from around the world.
[08:24.640 --> 08:30.000]  So if you give the body the proper nutrients, it's going to heal itself and that's what
[08:30.000 --> 08:32.200]  I've been doing for the last five years.
[08:32.200 --> 08:36.880]  I just really want to let people know about hemp and how it can change their life, getting
[08:36.880 --> 08:41.760]  the vitamins, minerals and nutrients out of the foods you eat and not buying it in a little
[08:41.760 --> 08:45.840]  pill form and popping them every day.
[08:45.840 --> 08:56.600]  I certainly like the idea of eating my nutrients so I was once working on a septic tank and
[08:56.600 --> 09:03.880]  I pulled the lid off and it was covered with pills, complete, not digested at all.
[09:03.880 --> 09:04.880]  How disgusting.
[09:04.880 --> 09:06.340]  Isn't it something, you know?
[09:06.340 --> 09:10.480]  But people are so mesmerized by advertisements, they're controlled by the media.
[09:10.480 --> 09:12.400]  What we need to do is educate ourselves.
[09:12.400 --> 09:18.360]  We need to know that to stay away from genetically modified foods, I want to let everybody know
[09:18.360 --> 09:21.000]  that our foods are not genetically modified.
[09:21.000 --> 09:25.320]  There's no herbicides, pesticides or fungicides used.
[09:25.320 --> 09:31.320]  We rotate our crop every three years to another farm.
[09:31.320 --> 09:37.840]  Everything that we have, our powder, our seeds, our oil, everything comes from the seed of
[09:37.840 --> 09:39.020]  the plant.
[09:39.020 --> 09:44.680]  We cultivate the plant back into the soil and we actually neutralize the soil again
[09:44.680 --> 09:47.320]  for the following crop.
[09:47.320 --> 09:53.120]  What's interesting is a lot of people don't know that the hemp seed is actually a nut
[09:53.120 --> 09:59.440]  and it's the only outer shell of a nut that the human body can consume that's actually
[09:59.440 --> 10:05.840]  very beneficial nutritionally and it can be digested and scraped the colon clean.
[10:05.840 --> 10:10.200]  Our hemp seeds sell so quickly, I sell thousands of pounds of hemp seed.
[10:10.200 --> 10:14.840]  We're the only company in North America that toasts them and salts them with sea salt.
[10:14.840 --> 10:19.360]  They're the most tastiest, delicious seed and the most nutrient seed no demand.
[10:19.360 --> 10:23.560]  Yeah, and I can tell you the birds love them too because...
[10:23.560 --> 10:28.560]  They do that and they sing 40% more songs, that's a medical fact.
[10:28.560 --> 10:33.800]  I did know that and I can tell you from experience, the parakeets, they will pick out all the
[10:33.800 --> 10:34.800]  hemp seeds first.
[10:34.800 --> 10:40.480]  Yes, they will and matter of fact any animal will, I mean it's so nutrient, it really is.
[10:40.480 --> 10:45.120]  We have animal feed that's half the price of our regular seed so if anybody wants to
[10:45.120 --> 10:49.720]  feed them to their animals, we do very big business with animal, little animal companies
[10:49.720 --> 10:56.240]  are feeding squirrels and little animals and birds so if anybody needs animal seed, we
[10:56.240 --> 11:02.920]  specifically have it in 25 pounders so it's half the price of the regular human consumable
[11:02.920 --> 11:03.920]  seed.
[11:03.920 --> 11:10.880]  We just have so much fun with our customers, I tell people our oil is triple filtered.
[11:10.880 --> 11:16.720]  It is just the perfect balance of Omega 3 to Omega 6 over any oil in the world.
[11:16.720 --> 11:20.920]  It tastes better and I recommend not to cook with it because you'll be cooking out the
[11:20.920 --> 11:25.960]  enzymes and the really incredible nutrients that will make your brain work again.
[11:25.960 --> 11:30.920]  The more you consume hemp oil, the more you will desire being in the sun, gaining that
[11:30.920 --> 11:35.360]  vitamin D and all the beautiful rays that God's given us through the sun.
[11:35.360 --> 11:42.680]  You'll find when you get on the proper essential fatty acid oil, your body changes and it desires
[11:42.680 --> 11:46.000]  things that it normally wouldn't desire.
[11:46.000 --> 11:56.880]  Yes, and also for fuel, an acre of hemp makes 10 times more ethanol than an acre of corn.
[11:56.880 --> 12:00.520]  Oh yeah, yeah and actually it's just so incredibly.
[12:00.520 --> 12:07.600]  Did you know a three foot by three foot square area, you can literally fit three to six hundred
[12:07.600 --> 12:13.160]  hemp plants in that area and just to give you an example, you can only fit four marijuana
[12:13.160 --> 12:14.160]  plants.
[12:14.160 --> 12:20.320]  Can you imagine if this was growing in this country, how many jobs it would give Americans?
[12:20.320 --> 12:27.240]  I know and the quality of the fabric too, I mean hemp has been used for fabric and for
[12:27.240 --> 12:31.520]  riggings on ships, for ropes, I mean how do you think they made?
[12:31.520 --> 12:34.760]  Well of course, it's incredible, our constitution was signed on it, our Declaration of Independence,
[12:34.760 --> 12:40.840]  the first Levi jeans, our first American flag, you've got the Britannic Encyclopedia for
[12:40.840 --> 12:46.880]  the last 150 years Deb has been on this paper.
[12:46.880 --> 12:51.360]  How do you think they made all the riggings for all the ships and the sails, for all those
[12:51.360 --> 12:55.440]  giant schooners that came over here across the ocean?
[12:55.440 --> 13:02.480]  There's no other fiber that would be strong enough to make sails and riggings and rope.
[13:02.480 --> 13:06.600]  That's right and there is no other fiber so you can imagine if you're taking it, you're
[13:06.600 --> 13:13.840]  making your body incredible with it, you literally become just what God wants us to be, healthy
[13:13.840 --> 13:16.920]  human beings and it's a plant that heals us.
[13:16.920 --> 13:21.840]  Let's talk a little bit about why is hemp illegal when it is not a drug, it contains
[13:21.840 --> 13:29.400]  no THC whatsoever, it is a different plant than marijuana, actually it used to be required
[13:29.400 --> 13:38.080]  by farmers that 10% of their crop land, however much acreage that they had for crops, 10%
[13:38.080 --> 13:44.600]  or more was required by farmers by the US government to grow hemp because it's an excellent
[13:44.600 --> 13:50.080]  rotational plant for crop rotation and now it's prohibited from being grown.
[13:50.080 --> 13:53.360]  Randy, can you address the law on this issue?
[13:53.360 --> 13:55.360]  You looked up the federal statutes on this.
[13:55.360 --> 14:03.780]  Yeah, it was 1939, I'm sure Thomas is more familiar with it than me, the past day a federal
[14:03.780 --> 14:10.160]  statute that forbid the growing of hemp in the United States and they talked about how
[14:10.160 --> 14:20.000]  Manila had taken the place of hemp in sales and another product had taken the place of
[14:20.000 --> 14:34.240]  hemp in ropes and it's like they were trying to make a case for why they decided to forbid
[14:34.240 --> 14:36.440]  hemp and it didn't make sense.
[14:36.440 --> 14:42.400]  Yeah, I'm not surprised, I mean the thing is even if other fibers had taken the place
[14:42.400 --> 14:47.240]  which I'm sure that's not true but even if that was true, well then so what, that's the
[14:47.240 --> 14:52.760]  law, supply and demand of the marketplace, you don't make an industrial product illegal
[14:52.760 --> 14:56.280]  just because it's becoming obsolete even if it is, which it wasn't.
[14:56.280 --> 15:01.520]  Yeah, but here's the thing, the issue here is they never differentiated in the law the
[15:01.520 --> 15:06.840]  difference between hemp and marijuana, they kept everybody dead to the fact that it was
[15:06.840 --> 15:13.200]  the same plant and that's what happened so they hid, they're not scared of marijuana,
[15:13.200 --> 15:17.160]  they're scared of the hemp plant because it would take away all the profits of the petrochemical
[15:17.160 --> 15:21.720]  industries and all the super corporations that are sucking up the dollars from the American
[15:21.720 --> 15:27.040]  people, they don't want to share the wealth, it's all about money.
[15:27.040 --> 15:31.360]  And the marijuana plant would put the pharmaceutical companies out of business too so they are scared
[15:31.360 --> 15:32.360]  of that too.
[15:32.360 --> 15:35.680]  I mean you get a healthy body, you know what I mean, and there's not, I've never had a
[15:35.680 --> 15:39.720]  return on any of our products and if you try our products to people that are listening
[15:39.720 --> 15:46.040]  you will know the difference, I have over 4,000 doctors on our products and over 5,000
[15:46.040 --> 15:51.560]  weight lifters that used to use whey and they now use the best protein, the most powerful
[15:51.560 --> 15:58.520]  protein, matter of fact 60% of the protein is globulin, which is almost identical to
[15:58.520 --> 16:04.200]  human blood so you can imagine how incredible our hemp powder is once you get it in your
[16:04.200 --> 16:08.360]  system and you can take it with water, it tastes good, with water.
[16:08.360 --> 16:11.560]  Hemp and spirulina are the top two for sure.
[16:11.560 --> 16:18.240]  Well nothing is more, nothing is more densely nutrient than the hemp plant, that's a fact.
[16:18.240 --> 16:23.680]  Nothing and there are no known allergens, no one has ever put it in a medical journal
[16:23.680 --> 16:28.800]  of an allergen of hemp, I mean the clothing itself will keep you warmer in the winter
[16:28.800 --> 16:35.320]  and cooler in the summer, it lasts for years and it is just a wonderful plant, I get excited
[16:35.320 --> 16:40.640]  about it, I got so excited about it that we're now mixing it with a very high quality coffee
[16:40.640 --> 16:41.640]  from Guatemala.
[16:41.640 --> 16:45.600]  Well I'm loving it, I can't wait to get my sampler pack, alright listen, hold on the
[16:45.600 --> 16:50.480]  line, we are going to be right back after this short break and Barry Cooper is also
[16:50.480 --> 16:53.960]  on the line, he's been fighting the war on drugs as well, I'm sure he loves the hemp
[16:53.960 --> 16:57.840]  products too so we'll be right back to talk with Barry and Thomas.
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[18:16.240 --> 18:45.920]  Alright, tyranny, thema tear you, thema tear me, thema tear up the whole country, that's
[18:45.920 --> 18:51.320]  my band Three Shoes Posse, we're giving the bad guys three shoes, two on their feet and
[18:51.320 --> 18:54.840]  one you know where in the derriere.
[18:54.840 --> 18:58.240]  Alright I'm Deborah Stevens, we're here with Randy Kelton, we've got Barry Cooper on the
[18:58.240 --> 19:05.000]  line from nevergetbusted.com, copbusters.com and we are also talking with Thomas James
[19:05.000 --> 19:11.760]  from Hemp USA, okay so right now we are talking about the fact that Hemp, which is a different
[19:11.760 --> 19:18.880]  plant other than marijuana, was outlawed in 1939 and Randy you were saying it was unclear,
[19:18.880 --> 19:24.080]  their reasons just didn't make any sense to you.
[19:24.080 --> 19:29.760]  Well it was as if they were trying to say that because all of these other products came
[19:29.760 --> 19:37.040]  around that somehow it was proper, the article made it clear that Hemp and marijuana were
[19:37.040 --> 19:43.640]  not the same plant, that they were part of the same generic species but they were totally
[19:43.640 --> 19:50.400]  different plants but it was like they were trying to skate around the reasons for making
[19:50.400 --> 19:57.920]  it illegal to grow, they never did really state any reason and I had already talked
[19:57.920 --> 20:03.600]  to Thomas about it and it was pretty clear to me what the issue was they were trying
[20:03.600 --> 20:11.960]  to skate around that it was so valuable in other places that other financial interests
[20:11.960 --> 20:19.840]  didn't want it, it was a good opportunity when they banned marijuana to group Hemp in
[20:19.840 --> 20:23.920]  with it and get one piece of competition out of the way.
[20:23.920 --> 20:24.920]  Yeah really.
[20:24.920 --> 20:29.200]  Well Thomas, why don't you tell us how people can order your products?
[20:29.200 --> 20:30.200]  Thomas?
[20:30.200 --> 20:37.800]  Give the phone number out, it's for everybody around anywhere in the world, we ship to 164
[20:37.800 --> 20:48.880]  countries, they can call 1-9-0-8-6-9-1-2-6-0-8, that's 908-6-9-1-2-6-0-8 or they can go to
[20:48.880 --> 20:55.280]  the website which is Hemp, E-M-P-U-S-A dot org, O-R-G.
[20:55.280 --> 20:59.360]  And use coupon code number 252, that's for rule of law radio.
[20:59.360 --> 21:00.360]  Yes.
[21:00.360 --> 21:01.360]  Yes.
[21:01.360 --> 21:02.360]  All right.
[21:02.360 --> 21:06.760]  We'll be glad to take their order and help them with any kind of problem they have, even
[21:06.760 --> 21:10.880]  if they just want to call up and find out what Hemp is, a lot of people just don't know
[21:10.880 --> 21:15.720]  what it is, they don't know the difference of Hemp versus marijuana even though they're
[21:15.720 --> 21:18.640]  two distinctly different plants.
[21:18.640 --> 21:22.000]  We kind of run through the different products you have, I know you mentioned oil.
[21:22.000 --> 21:28.200]  Yes, we have powder, we have seeds.
[21:28.200 --> 21:33.480]  We have soft centers which is the center of the seed with alcohol, they're chewy, women
[21:33.480 --> 21:39.520]  seem to love them on their salads and their yogurts and their hot cereals, extremely nutritious.
[21:39.520 --> 21:46.360]  And we also have a 17-ounce oil and gallons of oil which is a very big seller.
[21:46.360 --> 21:55.800]  I noticed a lot of people alts with MS with it, so it kind of rebuilds the myelin sheath
[21:55.800 --> 22:01.120]  around the nerves because it's such a perfect balance of omega-3 to omega-6, so people will
[22:01.120 --> 22:02.960]  get results from this food.
[22:02.960 --> 22:07.680]  And as I said, it's not the same food you find on the shelves at the health food store,
[22:07.680 --> 22:11.240]  that is the reason we import it and we want to make and let people know about this all
[22:11.240 --> 22:13.240]  over the world.
[22:13.240 --> 22:14.240]  Wonderful.
[22:14.240 --> 22:15.240]  Wonderful.
[22:15.240 --> 22:22.200]  I'm looking forward to getting the Hemp because you said it turns the brain on.
[22:22.200 --> 22:23.200]  Absolutely.
[22:23.200 --> 22:32.320]  I see what happens is I really believe once you get this proper system, first of all,
[22:32.320 --> 22:36.280]  the people in America are eating absolutely deficient food.
[22:36.280 --> 22:41.460]  It's nutrient, it's dead, the soil is dead, it doesn't have silica in it and what we need
[22:41.460 --> 22:47.120]  is to get this superfood in our body and you watch it change your life.
[22:47.120 --> 22:52.680]  It'll really open up the brain, it'll start to develop brain cells and it will light up
[22:52.680 --> 22:59.200]  the pineal gland and it really, really kind of makes you feel good when you have the proper
[22:59.200 --> 23:00.200]  nutrients in the body.
[23:00.200 --> 23:05.800]  A lot of people are getting on drugs, antidepressants because they're not gaining the proper nutrients
[23:05.800 --> 23:07.520]  from the packaged foods.
[23:07.520 --> 23:12.520]  So with this, start doing shakes and start taking it with water, you will feel a difference
[23:12.520 --> 23:15.440]  and you will feel wonderful.
[23:15.440 --> 23:16.440]  That's excellent.
[23:16.440 --> 23:21.200]  Well, Barry, thank you, by the way, for joining us this evening.
[23:21.200 --> 23:22.800]  How are you tonight?
[23:22.800 --> 23:25.840]  I'm doing well, glad to be back with you guys.
[23:25.840 --> 23:27.200]  That's excellent.
[23:27.200 --> 23:29.200]  So what do you think about these hemp products?
[23:29.200 --> 23:33.040]  Have you ever had any hemp products like this?
[23:33.040 --> 23:41.240]  I've sampled a lot of different hemp products to see in the near future, them growing exponentially
[23:41.240 --> 23:43.240]  in popularity.
[23:43.240 --> 23:49.800]  People are catching on to all the benefits like Tom was speaking of and it just shows
[23:49.800 --> 23:58.640]  to how crazy this insane fear of marijuana has become that even those fears of the wonderful
[23:58.640 --> 24:03.440]  hemp plant to be outlawed as well.
[24:03.440 --> 24:05.120]  Absolutely.
[24:05.120 --> 24:09.680]  And Barry, you're doing a lot of work to fight this war on drugs and to try to liberate the
[24:09.680 --> 24:13.280]  hemp plant and the marijuana plant, is that correct?
[24:13.280 --> 24:19.960]  Yeah, in fact, just a week and a half ago, we were sneaking around in the backyard of
[24:19.960 --> 24:26.320]  a police officer that we've been watching that's involved in corruption and we'll be
[24:26.320 --> 24:33.200]  making him one of our upcoming episodes of Copbusters.
[24:33.200 --> 24:37.600]  Is that why you had some visitors last night?
[24:37.600 --> 24:41.840]  The visitors last night were unrelated to that.
[24:41.840 --> 24:48.240]  Please, since Candy and I have moved to Pflugerville, we live in one of the nicest neighborhoods.
[24:48.240 --> 24:51.240]  The police have been to our house five or six times.
[24:51.240 --> 24:56.720]  Six times, Candy just reminded me, yesterday it was the sixth.
[24:56.720 --> 25:02.160]  We have it all videoed on iDefinition camera and we're going to use these encounters with
[25:02.160 --> 25:08.200]  the police at your house in upcoming volume three of Never Get Busted to teach how to
[25:08.200 --> 25:12.440]  safely deal with the police when they come knocking at your door.
[25:12.440 --> 25:13.440]  That's great.
[25:13.440 --> 25:17.360]  I'm loving it.
[25:17.360 --> 25:22.360]  So what do you have planned for us here in the near future?
[25:22.360 --> 25:23.360]  In terms of...
[25:23.360 --> 25:32.200]  Well, we're the most excited about my running for Texas Attorney General 2010 because with
[25:32.200 --> 25:44.200]  that position and that power, I can change the criminal justice system in Texas overnight,
[25:44.200 --> 25:51.200]  starting with the releasing of nonviolent drug offenders and a zero tolerance policy
[25:51.200 --> 25:59.080]  where we'll fire each and every cop within 24 hours of conducting an illegal search or
[25:59.080 --> 26:01.540]  committing a civil rights violation.
[26:01.540 --> 26:10.440]  You know, it's always been our goal with Never Get Busted and Copbusters to release our prisoners.
[26:10.440 --> 26:13.120]  Those guys are prisoners of war to me.
[26:13.120 --> 26:21.120]  They need to be home with their families and up and coming we have the reality show Copbusters
[26:21.120 --> 26:28.560]  and then Fox Studios is shopping a 60-minute scripted drama about our lives.
[26:28.560 --> 26:38.640]  We want those two to get the fame and the cash and the clout necessary to win this election
[26:38.640 --> 26:39.640]  in Texas.
[26:39.640 --> 26:43.640]  Put my office there in the capital so we can really see some changes.
[26:43.640 --> 26:44.640]  I'm loving it.
[26:44.640 --> 26:45.640]  I'm loving it.
[26:45.640 --> 26:54.400]  Yeah, part of our campaign will be to, of course, setting up stings across Texas on
[26:54.400 --> 27:03.600]  corrupt officers and we're really proud of the grassroots campaign of teaching jury nullification.
[27:03.600 --> 27:11.360]  We're going to coordinate our supporters across Texas to stand in front of every courthouse
[27:11.360 --> 27:19.200]  in Texas handing out jury rights information in an understandable form, not a form that's
[27:19.200 --> 27:25.240]  crazy and kooky and too hard to understand, but really explain to the Texans that the
[27:25.240 --> 27:29.200]  citizens truly are the final say in the law.
[27:29.200 --> 27:38.640]  You know, the Texans vote on certain laws and then sitting on a jury, if they decide
[27:38.640 --> 27:42.680]  that that law is unjust, they can hang the jury.
[27:42.680 --> 27:44.040]  That's right.
[27:44.040 --> 27:52.000]  That puts the power of the law back in the hands of the citizens and citizens often think
[27:52.000 --> 27:56.840]  that the judge is the one in charge of that courtroom.
[27:56.840 --> 27:57.840]  That's not the truth.
[27:57.840 --> 27:58.840]  It's the jury.
[27:58.840 --> 28:04.000]  Yes, and I would like to include some information in these pamphlets that you intend on handing
[28:04.000 --> 28:09.720]  out to educate grand jurors as well so that we can get the grand juries to start indicting
[28:09.720 --> 28:15.080]  these public servants who are committing crimes so that grand juries aren't just tools of
[28:15.080 --> 28:19.400]  the prosecutor anymore, but rather they're going to indict the prosecutor.
[28:19.400 --> 28:22.400]  How about that?
[28:22.400 --> 28:23.400]  Excellent.
[28:23.400 --> 28:28.920]  Grand juries right now are nothing more than an extension of the mind of the prosecutor
[28:28.920 --> 28:31.480]  and that is not how it's supposed to be.
[28:31.480 --> 28:32.480]  Absolutely.
[28:32.480 --> 28:41.400]  Thomas Jefferson stated that it was the founder's very specific intent that the jury have the
[28:41.400 --> 28:45.880]  final say on the facts and the law.
[28:45.880 --> 28:54.420]  He very specifically said, if the legislature passes a bad law and juries refuse to enforce
[28:54.420 --> 28:58.440]  that law, they will have to change it.
[28:58.440 --> 29:06.320]  So they were fully aware of the jury's responsibility to consider the law as well as the facts.
[29:06.320 --> 29:10.160]  So we want to place citizens in front of the courthouses.
[29:10.160 --> 29:16.800]  We're going to offer a very, very inexpensive hidden camera.
[29:16.800 --> 29:23.320]  We're trying to negotiate a deal to get these for as little as $40 and they record two hours
[29:23.320 --> 29:32.360]  of color video and audio and take video of all of this taking place in front of the courthouses
[29:32.360 --> 29:36.880]  and upload it to our campaign website.
[29:36.880 --> 29:44.440]  We feel like that type of grassroots campaign along with the reality shows gives us an excellent
[29:44.440 --> 29:47.760]  chance to make my office the capital.
[29:47.760 --> 29:50.480]  I believe it and you know we're going to get the word out too.
[29:50.480 --> 29:54.320]  All right, listen, Barry, Thomas, hold on, we're going to break, we'll be right back
[29:54.320 --> 29:55.320]  after these messages.
[29:55.320 --> 29:58.880]  This is the rule of law.
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[30:02.880 --> 30:03.880]  to buy.
[30:03.880 --> 30:08.360]  With the value of the dollar, risks of inflation, geopolitical uncertainties and instability
[30:08.360 --> 30:11.880]  in rural financial systems, I see gold going up much higher.
[30:11.880 --> 30:15.200]  Hi, I'm Tim Fry at Roberts and Roberts Brokerage.
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[30:40.400 --> 30:43.780]  the event that we would be required to report any transaction.
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[31:22.640 --> 31:50.160]  Alright, more Three Shoes Posse music for you when you're going to stop abuse your power.
[31:50.160 --> 31:58.960]  Well, not until we make them stop, Barry, his wife Candy, Randy Kelton, me, all of us
[31:58.960 --> 32:03.960]  and we have to be properly nourished in order to fight the injustice.
[32:03.960 --> 32:11.880]  So everyone please go to HempUSA.org and use coupon code number 252 so that we can get
[32:11.880 --> 32:16.880]  a little credit here on Rule of Law Radio to help keep the network on the air.
[32:16.880 --> 32:21.000]  I'm just going to have Thomas say a few more words here real quick before we go back to
[32:21.000 --> 32:22.000]  Barry.
[32:22.000 --> 32:24.240]  But before we do that, I just want to make an announcement.
[32:24.240 --> 32:29.960]  We have an incredible storm here coming, headed directly for Austin.
[32:29.960 --> 32:33.720]  Randy has set up a battery backup system but we didn't have time to hook it up in tandem
[32:33.720 --> 32:39.280]  with the rest of the power set up so if we go off the air, just stay tuned because we
[32:39.280 --> 32:44.160]  got a battery backup ready to go and we'll be back up on the air shortly.
[32:44.160 --> 32:48.760]  So just hang tight, folks, because we are in a tornado warning here.
[32:48.760 --> 32:53.600]  So before we get back to Barry, I just wanted to go back to Thomas real quickly.
[32:53.600 --> 32:58.840]  Thomas, plug your website again and your products and tell people how they can order and we
[32:58.840 --> 33:01.360]  really do appreciate everything that you're doing, Thomas.
[33:01.360 --> 33:02.360]  So please go ahead.
[33:02.360 --> 33:03.360]  Thomas?
[33:03.360 --> 33:04.360]  Okay.
[33:04.360 --> 33:05.360]  It sounds like a coincidence to me.
[33:05.360 --> 33:06.360]  Thomas?
[33:06.360 --> 33:07.360]  Is Thomas there?
[33:07.360 --> 33:08.360]  Can you hear me?
[33:08.360 --> 33:09.360]  Okay, yes.
[33:09.360 --> 33:10.360]  Go ahead, Thomas.
[33:10.360 --> 33:11.360]  Yes.
[33:11.360 --> 33:20.080]  Well, for the American people and for the world, anyone who comes to the website, if
[33:20.080 --> 33:25.680]  they order $95 or more, it's free shipping anywhere in the country, including Alaska
[33:25.680 --> 33:35.680]  and Hawaii and we ship out within a 24-hour period so you'll get it very quick.
[33:35.680 --> 33:37.160]  I think we're losing Thomas.
[33:37.160 --> 33:43.080]  Technically modified, it contains no THC, so you don't have to worry about testing positive
[33:43.080 --> 33:44.080]  on any test.
[33:44.080 --> 33:45.080]  You will love our food.
[33:45.080 --> 33:46.080]  We have a new product.
[33:46.080 --> 33:47.080]  Thomas, we're losing you.
[33:47.080 --> 33:48.080]  Yeah.
[33:48.080 --> 33:49.080]  I think he dropped off the line.
[33:49.080 --> 33:50.080]  He's having a bad connection.
[33:50.080 --> 33:51.080]  All right.
[33:51.080 --> 33:52.080]  Maybe he'll call back in.
[33:52.080 --> 33:53.080]  All right.
[33:53.080 --> 33:54.080]  Everyone out there, please support our sponsors, HempUSA.org, Jurisdictionary.com.
[33:54.080 --> 34:14.320]  SleepWellInvestment.com, please support our sponsors because that is how we stay on the
[34:14.320 --> 34:16.880]  air and we do need your donations too.
[34:16.880 --> 34:22.080]  Actually, I'm sending a call out right now because I am going to the Rainbow Gathering
[34:22.080 --> 34:30.320]  again this year and I need to rent a satellite phone, so I need to raise $300 so I can rent
[34:30.320 --> 34:34.880]  a satellite phone for the week that I will be at the Rainbow because I need to have this
[34:34.880 --> 34:40.320]  people because it's a safety tool, to be honest.
[34:40.320 --> 34:46.320]  If it starts going down, I need to be able to call out and besides, I intend on doing
[34:46.320 --> 34:50.720]  the show anyway or at least participating in part of the show while I'm gone, so I need
[34:50.720 --> 34:52.160]  to be able to call them to the show.
[34:52.160 --> 34:56.200]  Everyone out there, please help donate whatever you can so I can raise the money to get my
[34:56.200 --> 35:01.960]  satellite phone so that Denver will not be lost to the Rainbow.
[35:01.960 --> 35:07.920]  Anyone who remembers last year's Rainbow will know that the satellite phone may well have
[35:07.920 --> 35:09.720]  saved a number of lives there.
[35:09.720 --> 35:14.640]  I'm telling you what, it really did because I was interviewing people live right after
[35:14.640 --> 35:20.360]  they had been shot but with the rubber bullets, filled with pepper spray, the feds came in
[35:20.360 --> 35:25.400]  and they shot children, they shot elderly people, most of the people who had wounds
[35:25.400 --> 35:31.640]  were wounded in the back, they were shot in the back, the kids were shot, some people
[35:31.640 --> 35:38.000]  had to be life flighted out, one elderly gentleman who had asthma had to be life flighted out
[35:38.000 --> 35:45.920]  because of these rogue forestry agents just wrecking havoc at the Rainbow.
[35:45.920 --> 35:52.160]  How much of a coward could you have to be to shoot children and women and elderly people
[35:52.160 --> 35:58.160]  with rubber bullets filled with pepper spray and to mount up riot teams at the front gate
[35:58.160 --> 36:02.080]  to come and storm troop a group of hippies in the woods?
[36:02.080 --> 36:03.080]  All over what?
[36:03.080 --> 36:04.080]  Yes.
[36:04.080 --> 36:05.080]  All over what?
[36:05.080 --> 36:06.080]  Hemp and pot.
[36:06.080 --> 36:07.080]  Okay?
[36:07.080 --> 36:08.080]  I'm serious.
[36:08.080 --> 36:09.080]  That's what it all had to do with.
[36:09.080 --> 36:14.620]  It all had to do with the feds had been after some guy for like 10 years because he would
[36:14.620 --> 36:20.040]  give away free marijuana at the Rainbow and so all these people were seriously injured
[36:20.040 --> 36:26.280]  and harmed and one person even nearly died all because of the good herb and because I
[36:26.280 --> 36:30.240]  had the satellite phone and I interviewed these people live on the spot and the feds
[36:30.240 --> 36:36.320]  were watching me and even at one point I was calling Randy because they were spreading
[36:36.320 --> 36:40.840]  out in military formation across the field and I was sitting on this big rock with the
[36:40.840 --> 36:44.040]  satellite phone and they knew what it was because it's obvious, the satellite phone
[36:44.040 --> 36:48.960]  does not look like a cell phone and they spread out in military formation around me.
[36:48.960 --> 36:49.960]  I'm serious.
[36:49.960 --> 36:54.480]  If I hadn't had that satellite phone for Randy to call the FBI, I know there would have been
[36:54.480 --> 36:55.480]  deaths.
[36:55.480 --> 36:56.480]  I just know it.
[36:56.480 --> 36:57.480]  Yes.
[36:57.480 --> 37:02.200]  And I had the FBI agent, he didn't know it but I took the cell phone and slid it up under
[37:02.200 --> 37:03.760]  my headset.
[37:03.760 --> 37:09.960]  He's going out over the air and I'm crawling down his throat about the feds mounting up
[37:09.960 --> 37:13.600]  all of these armed troops to go in there and murder someone.
[37:13.600 --> 37:14.600]  Absolutely.
[37:14.600 --> 37:18.240]  And he's saying how well that's not his business and you better make it your business.
[37:18.240 --> 37:19.240]  Of course it's his business.
[37:19.240 --> 37:24.440]  Because if anyone gets killed there, you knew about it and it was just a little while later
[37:24.440 --> 37:30.280]  we heard that all of those 60 Humvees and 200 guys in riot gear all backed out.
[37:30.280 --> 37:31.280]  Yes, they did.
[37:31.280 --> 37:32.280]  Thank you, Randy, for that.
[37:32.280 --> 37:35.120]  So anyway, please folks, help me get the satellite phone.
[37:35.120 --> 37:37.120]  I'm leaving on the 29th.
[37:37.120 --> 37:43.120]  I have to order it a week before so I've got about two weeks here, about a week and a half
[37:43.120 --> 37:44.840]  to get the 300 bucks together.
[37:44.840 --> 37:45.840]  So please help me with that.
[37:45.840 --> 37:50.080]  At any rate, okay, so if we go off the air, like I said, the storm, we're going to have
[37:50.080 --> 37:51.080]  a battery back up.
[37:51.080 --> 37:52.960]  We'll be right back on the air if we go off.
[37:52.960 --> 37:57.520]  So at any rate, we got Thomas James back up on the line and then we're going to go back
[37:57.520 --> 37:58.520]  to Barry.
[37:58.520 --> 38:01.440]  So Thomas, finish plugging your products and then we're going to go back to Barry.
[38:01.440 --> 38:02.440]  Oh, no.
[38:02.440 --> 38:06.320]  Yeah, and Thomas, back up a little bit because you were breaking up there toward the end.
[38:06.320 --> 38:10.280]  Yes, you fell off the line when you said something about if people order $95 the more they get
[38:10.280 --> 38:11.280]  free shipping.
[38:11.280 --> 38:12.280]  That's correct.
[38:12.280 --> 38:13.280]  Can you hear me now?
[38:13.280 --> 38:14.280]  Barely, yes.
[38:14.280 --> 38:15.280]  You kind of have a bad connection.
[38:15.280 --> 38:16.280]  Oh, it's a shame.
[38:16.280 --> 38:17.280]  Well, like I said before, can you hear me a little bit better?
[38:17.280 --> 38:18.280]  A little bit, yeah.
[38:18.280 --> 38:19.280]  Just go ahead.
[38:19.280 --> 38:20.280]  No.
[38:20.280 --> 38:21.280]  We will do free shipping.
[38:21.280 --> 38:32.280]  They'll get a free book and then we'll get a free sample of one of our new products.
[38:32.280 --> 38:46.280]  And if they call, they can call 908-691-2608 or go to musa.org and we'll take care of you.
[38:46.280 --> 38:47.280]  Okay.
[38:47.280 --> 38:48.280]  Thank you very much.
[38:48.280 --> 38:49.280]  You're breaking up pretty bad.
[38:49.280 --> 38:50.280]  Yeah, you're breaking up pretty bad.
[38:50.280 --> 38:53.280]  There may be something with the storm here and with our phone lines.
[38:53.280 --> 38:54.280]  All right.
[38:54.280 --> 38:55.280]  Thank you, Thomas.
[38:55.280 --> 38:56.280]  Thank you.
[38:56.280 --> 38:57.280]  God bless you guys.
[38:57.280 --> 38:58.280]  Okay.
[38:58.280 --> 39:01.280]  And Barry has dropped off the line too, and I'm concerned that it's because of the storm.
[39:01.280 --> 39:03.280]  I'm going to try to call him back.
[39:03.280 --> 39:08.280]  But at any rate, yeah, it's a serious thing.
[39:08.280 --> 39:09.280]  Yeah, I was wondering.
[39:09.280 --> 39:10.280]  Randy, go ahead.
[39:10.280 --> 39:13.280]  I'm going to try to get Barry back on the line.
[39:13.280 --> 39:14.280]  Yeah.
[39:14.280 --> 39:17.280]  When Barry gets back, I wanted to ask him about something.
[39:17.280 --> 39:27.280]  If this guy is out there giving away pot, now, it's illegal to sell pot, but is it illegal to give it away?
[39:27.280 --> 39:29.280]  It's illegal to possess it.
[39:29.280 --> 39:44.280]  It's considered a Schedule A drug as classified by the FDA, which means – what that means is Schedule A drugs are classified as drugs that have no medicinal use whatsoever, which is completely preposterous.
[39:44.280 --> 39:48.280]  Marijuana is the cure for cancer, and that's been proven.
[39:48.280 --> 39:49.280]  Okay.
[39:49.280 --> 39:52.280]  And the Rossman have known that for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years.
[39:52.280 --> 39:55.280]  There's no cancer in that culture, and that's the reason why.
[39:55.280 --> 39:56.280]  All right.
[39:56.280 --> 40:01.280]  It is the cure for glaucoma, it's the cure for asthma, it is the cure for so many things.
[40:01.280 --> 40:04.280]  And literally, it would put Big Pharma out of business.
[40:04.280 --> 40:06.280]  I'm talking about marijuana now, not him.
[40:06.280 --> 40:07.280]  Okay.
[40:07.280 --> 40:09.280]  It is the cure for so many known diseases.
[40:09.280 --> 40:25.280]  And every time a medical study, a legitimate medical study starts to get the ball rolling to prove these things under the FDA required, you know, all the hoops that have to be jumped through for these medical studies in order for the FDA
[40:25.280 --> 40:36.280]  to approve them, Big Pharma comes in and dumps so many millions and billions of dollars against it that they get these studies shut down.
[40:36.280 --> 40:37.280]  Okay.
[40:37.280 --> 40:49.280]  And that's why it's classified as a Schedule A drug, which means it's a drug that has no medicinal value whatsoever or any redeeming quality whatsoever, and it's just prohibited to even possess it, period.
[40:49.280 --> 40:56.280]  It's not like a pharmaceutical drug where you're only prohibited from having it if you don't have a prescription.
[40:56.280 --> 40:58.280]  It's just prohibited, period.
[40:58.280 --> 40:59.280]  It's a Schedule A drug.
[40:59.280 --> 41:03.280]  It's ridiculous, and it's all because of competition.
[41:03.280 --> 41:05.280]  They don't want to compete.
[41:05.280 --> 41:13.280]  And in fact, Big Pharma has created a pharmaceutical to try to emulate marijuana.
[41:13.280 --> 41:20.280]  It's called Marinal, M-A-R-I-N-O-L, and it's a synthetic form of THC, but it doesn't work.
[41:20.280 --> 41:37.280]  And the reason it doesn't work is because THC needs the hundreds and even thousands of cannabinoids, which are other chemicals in the plant that synthesize and work together with the THC in order for it to have its medicinal,
[41:37.280 --> 41:40.280]  in order for it to have the medicinal properties that it has.
[41:40.280 --> 41:47.280]  And so the Marinal has synthetic THC, but it doesn't have any of the cannabinoids, and that's why it doesn't work.
[41:47.280 --> 41:53.280]  And so that's another lame excuse that they've used to classify marijuana as a Schedule A drug.
[41:53.280 --> 41:56.280]  It's like, well, we have the Marinal, and it doesn't even work that well.
[41:56.280 --> 41:57.280]  Well, yeah, that's why.
[41:57.280 --> 42:00.280]  I mean, some things you just can't replicate what nature does.
[42:00.280 --> 42:06.280]  So, yeah, I would say it's probably illegal to give it away if it's illegal to possess it.
[42:06.280 --> 42:19.280]  But that's just at the federal level, though, because many states like California have decriminalized it and even made it legal under prescription.
[42:19.280 --> 42:25.280]  And that was the big case, Rach versus Ashcroft, which really was more about states' rights than drug laws,
[42:25.280 --> 42:34.280]  where Ashcroft came in with his federal SWAT teams and were dragging out elderly, terminally ill patients out of these marijuana clinics
[42:34.280 --> 42:39.280]  and dumping them on the floor and holding machine guns against people's heads who were in wheelchairs and such
[42:39.280 --> 42:47.280]  and dragging people off who were dying to federal prison because they were using the only known drug to man
[42:47.280 --> 42:52.280]  that would relieve their pain and not only help with the symptoms, but help cure their illness.
[42:52.280 --> 42:57.280]  Because the state of California, it was totally legal and authorized under California law.
[42:57.280 --> 42:59.280]  So that's the feds for you.
[42:59.280 --> 43:16.280]  I'm wondering how these new Tenth Amendment initiatives will affect the feds' ability to come in and enforce laws like the one in California.
[43:16.280 --> 43:17.280]  Well, see, I'll tell you what.
[43:17.280 --> 43:22.280]  The sheriff out in that county, oh, and we just got Barry Cooper, but then he dropped off the line again.
[43:22.280 --> 43:23.280]  Oh, darn.
[43:23.280 --> 43:24.280]  Okay.
[43:24.280 --> 43:25.280]  He'll probably call back.
[43:25.280 --> 43:27.280]  He must be having problems with his cell phone with a storm.
[43:27.280 --> 43:37.280]  But at any rate, the sheriff out in those counties where that case took place with Angel Rach, the sheriff should have come in.
[43:37.280 --> 43:40.280]  Well, the sheriff never should have let the feds in this county in the first place.
[43:40.280 --> 43:41.280]  Period.
[43:41.280 --> 43:43.280]  I mean, the sheriffs have to start standing up.
[43:43.280 --> 43:45.280]  And yeah, I hope these Tenth Amendment resolutions will help.
[43:45.280 --> 43:46.280]  All right.
[43:46.280 --> 43:49.280]  I'm going to try to get Barry Cooper back when we get back on the other side.
[43:49.280 --> 43:53.280]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[43:53.280 --> 43:58.280]  We shall be right back.
[43:58.280 --> 44:03.280]  If your body isn't feeling too well these days, you're going to start taking this hemp, I say.
[44:03.280 --> 44:08.280]  Go to HempUSA.org.
[44:08.280 --> 44:13.280]  You may not like what I'm about to say, but you know I'm going to say it anyway.
[44:13.280 --> 44:15.280]  The government doesn't want the best for you.
[44:15.280 --> 44:18.280]  They keep you down, they keep you blue.
[44:18.280 --> 44:23.280]  They starve your body for all its nutrients.
[44:23.280 --> 44:25.280]  They won't let you grow industrial hemp.
[44:25.280 --> 44:32.280]  It really doesn't make any kind of sense when it's so healthy for the world and useful for you, my friends.
[44:32.280 --> 44:37.280]  I hope Mr. Bush will hear this song, for the heart of America wants this one.
[44:37.280 --> 44:42.280]  Go to HempUSA.org.
[44:42.280 --> 44:51.280]  If you're a truther, an anarchist, a renegade, you only want things that God has made, go to HempUSA.org.
[44:51.280 --> 44:54.280]  We offer free shipping anywhere in the states.
[44:54.280 --> 44:59.280]  Go to HempUSA.org.
[44:59.280 --> 45:16.280]  If you did not have any problems, where are you going to look for one?
[45:16.280 --> 45:22.280]  If you could not wait any longer, would your purpose let you die?
[45:22.280 --> 45:29.280]  Such a symptom of a soldier, a warrior of love, scuffling the keys to peace.
[45:29.280 --> 45:32.280]  All they're taking is a misunderstanding.
[45:32.280 --> 45:34.280]  Somebody calls the police.
[45:34.280 --> 45:58.280]  Watching the sparks fly, watching the sparks fly, watching the sparks fly.
[45:58.280 --> 46:04.280]  When the friction is an addiction, the hard work can leave you cold as nails.
[46:04.280 --> 46:10.280]  An impossibility towards tranquility, a heavy load that fits an unscathed.
[46:10.280 --> 46:16.280]  The time is colliding with the conflict, you find out after a while.
[46:16.280 --> 46:21.280]  It's not your moral standards, it's your patience that's on trial.
[46:21.280 --> 46:42.280]  Watching the sparks fly, watching the sparks fly, watching the sparks fly.
[46:42.280 --> 46:49.280]  Okay, watching the sparks fly, and apparently there's some tornadoes flying around the area.
[46:49.280 --> 46:56.280]  I just spoke with Barry on the cell phone on break, and he will be calling back in as soon as possible,
[46:56.280 --> 47:04.280]  but right now they are running from a tornado which apparently has been sighted two blocks away from where they are.
[47:04.280 --> 47:09.280]  They're in the Whole Foods right now, and they're just trying to lay low,
[47:09.280 --> 47:15.280]  and it's very noisy in the store, and people are frantic and panicking and stuff because of the tornadoes.
[47:15.280 --> 47:22.280]  Barry will be calling back in before the end of the show because he had some important information he wanted to get out,
[47:22.280 --> 47:31.280]  but in the meantime, yeah, Deborah, we're having a Deborah money bomb, a money bomb for Deborah for the satellite phone,
[47:31.280 --> 47:34.280]  and it would be helpful if I could get a little gas money too.
[47:34.280 --> 47:36.280]  So I deserve it, people.
[47:36.280 --> 47:38.280]  Look, I've worked really hard for the last six months.
[47:38.280 --> 47:43.280]  I deserve to have a little vacation and go fight for our freedom, so to speak.
[47:43.280 --> 47:49.280]  So at any rate, help me with the satellite phone, folks, and Barry will be back on the line too.
[47:49.280 --> 47:56.280]  And so at any rate, Randy, please continue with what you were saying about the Fed.
[47:56.280 --> 48:04.280]  Yeah, I'm pulling up the weather right now, and the only real severe weather in Texas appears to be right over us.
[48:04.280 --> 48:07.280]  Great. Great.
[48:07.280 --> 48:16.280]  They've got a bunch of cloud cover-up a little north and the west, but some really, really ugly stuff bearing down on us right now.
[48:16.280 --> 48:18.280]  Actually, it looks like it's right over us.
[48:18.280 --> 48:20.280]  Oh, boy, and it hasn't hit yet.
[48:20.280 --> 48:21.280]  We're in South Austin.
[48:21.280 --> 48:22.280]  It's coming from the north.
[48:22.280 --> 48:26.280]  But yeah, at any rate, Randy, you were talking about the 10th Amendment resolutions.
[48:26.280 --> 48:30.280]  Hopefully, it will help the situation.
[48:30.280 --> 48:40.280]  I mean, I know that some of these states, they're also passing laws that are rejecting all federal firearms laws and firearms regulations.
[48:40.280 --> 48:50.280]  As long as the firearms are manufactured or the ammunition or whatever, the parts, as long as they're manufactured within the state and stay in the state,
[48:50.280 --> 48:59.280]  Congresses are saying, look, we are immune to your federal laws because it does not apply to us because this is strictly inside the state.
[48:59.280 --> 49:06.280]  And I sure do wish that they would do the same thing concerning growing plants of any sort.
[49:06.280 --> 49:11.280]  I mean, there are all kinds of outrageous legislation being proposed now at the federal level.
[49:11.280 --> 49:18.280]  The feds want to regulate people's gardens, okay, that have nothing to do with commerce at all.
[49:18.280 --> 49:23.280]  You have to get permission from the feds now to grow just like tomatoes in your backyard and stuff.
[49:23.280 --> 49:29.280]  I mean, I think that these state legislatures should do the same thing with the growing of any and all plants, period.
[49:29.280 --> 49:34.280]  Yes. I was talking about this with someone earlier today.
[49:34.280 --> 49:53.280]  And Tennessee just passed a new statute that said that in a national emergency in a crisis, the citizens of the state of Tennessee are allowed to keep their weapons.
[49:53.280 --> 50:03.280]  And this appeared to be a clear reaction to what they did in Louisiana to make sure that doesn't happen in Tennessee.
[50:03.280 --> 50:07.280]  We're seeing a backlash against the federal government.
[50:07.280 --> 50:14.280]  It seems like the harder they push, the more resistance they begin to get.
[50:14.280 --> 50:22.280]  And when I was talking about it, it occurred to me, the Military Commissions Act.
[50:22.280 --> 50:27.280]  Anyone who's a state official has to be terrified by that thing.
[50:27.280 --> 50:31.280]  You can't do anything about it because it hasn't been enacted.
[50:31.280 --> 50:35.280]  It's horrendously unconstitutional.
[50:35.280 --> 50:41.280]  However, you can't challenge it for being unconstitutional unless you've been harmed by it.
[50:41.280 --> 50:44.280]  And until it's been enacted, no one gets harmed.
[50:44.280 --> 50:49.280]  And the states are looking at a serious potential problem.
[50:49.280 --> 50:52.280]  So how do you handle that?
[50:52.280 --> 51:00.280]  You tell the federal government, if your law is not constitutional, keep it out of my state.
[51:00.280 --> 51:02.280]  That's exactly what they're doing.
[51:02.280 --> 51:07.280]  I believe the states are protecting themselves from the Military Commissions Act.
[51:07.280 --> 51:08.280]  Yeah.
[51:08.280 --> 51:09.280]  That's a good thing.
[51:09.280 --> 51:10.280]  All right.
[51:10.280 --> 51:19.280]  Well, while we're waiting for callers to call back in, I mean, while we're waiting, sorry, while we're waiting for Barry to call back in, callers would like to call in 512-646-1984.
[51:19.280 --> 51:21.280]  We do have a caller on the line.
[51:21.280 --> 51:26.280]  If you'd like to comment on the issues we've been discussing or any other, please feel free to call in.
[51:26.280 --> 51:28.280]  Do you want to take this call, Randy?
[51:28.280 --> 51:29.280]  Yes.
[51:29.280 --> 51:30.280]  Okay.
[51:30.280 --> 51:32.280]  We've got Jim in Texas.
[51:32.280 --> 51:33.280]  Hey, Jim, thanks for calling in.
[51:33.280 --> 51:35.280]  What's on your mind tonight?
[51:35.280 --> 51:43.280]  Oh, I was doing some research and I wanted to see how you guys thought about it.
[51:43.280 --> 51:58.280]  On public servants or public officers, everybody seems to want to be able to claim it seems like their immunity
[51:58.280 --> 52:02.280]  from the state immunity.
[52:02.280 --> 52:03.280]  Yeah.
[52:03.280 --> 52:07.280]  Official and what's the other one?
[52:07.280 --> 52:13.280]  You have official immunity and you have I don't think it's a secret term in a second.
[52:13.280 --> 52:14.280]  Yeah.
[52:14.280 --> 52:16.280]  Everybody wants to be immune, obviously.
[52:16.280 --> 52:18.280]  Well, I found a law case.
[52:18.280 --> 52:21.280]  It was out of Nevada.
[52:21.280 --> 52:28.280]  It defines public officers and they go through several things.
[52:28.280 --> 52:42.280]  This is the Nevada Supreme Court case that says a public officer has to have his duties and his job
[52:42.280 --> 52:45.280]  created by the Constitution or a statute.
[52:45.280 --> 53:00.280]  If it's not created by law, either the Constitution or statute, then he doesn't fall within that meaning.
[53:00.280 --> 53:05.280]  But a lot of these are not jobs that are created by statute.
[53:05.280 --> 53:17.280]  The main person, this case was on the college, the president of the college and it was a community college
[53:17.280 --> 53:19.280]  or a state on college.
[53:19.280 --> 53:28.280]  They were working on different things with it, but his didn't fall under any type of immunity
[53:28.280 --> 53:36.280]  because only the board of regents for the college would have fallen under that.
[53:36.280 --> 53:41.280]  I think that's what we would find and that's what I'm looking for still right now in the state of Texas
[53:41.280 --> 53:55.280]  is that a lot of these people that claim to be their boss may have immunity, but they don't.
[53:55.280 --> 54:05.280]  The one part was on driver's license and this was the director of, if I can find it real quick,
[54:05.280 --> 54:12.280]  the Public Service Commission driver's license division was not a public officer
[54:12.280 --> 54:20.280]  because the position was created by an agency administrator and not by law.
[54:20.280 --> 54:26.280]  There's a whole lot of them that actually don't have any immunity.
[54:26.280 --> 54:28.280]  Okay, that's a Nevada statute.
[54:28.280 --> 54:33.280]  That is a Nevada statute under a Nevada Supreme Court case.
[54:33.280 --> 54:40.280]  I've been trying to cross it with Texas and I have to refine my search down.
[54:40.280 --> 54:46.280]  I found one that I copied and I can't find it again on my computer, so I'll have to find it again.
[54:46.280 --> 54:57.280]  In Texas, all officials have qualified immunity if they're acting within the scope of an official authority.
[54:57.280 --> 55:01.280]  Well, but their official authority has to be granted by law.
[55:01.280 --> 55:11.280]  Well, the head of the agency can bestow the authority on the members, on those who work for him
[55:11.280 --> 55:16.280]  because they're acting in his capacity.
[55:16.280 --> 55:23.280]  We can't get away from the fact that a public official is immune from civil litigation
[55:23.280 --> 55:27.280]  when he's doing his job the way he's supposed to be.
[55:27.280 --> 55:31.280]  And frankly, I think that's as it should be.
[55:31.280 --> 55:38.280]  Well, from what I'm seeing in the cases, it says that it has to be by law.
[55:38.280 --> 55:51.280]  From what I read, they referred to a certain study that was done on public office and public officers
[55:51.280 --> 56:06.280]  and how those offices were created in order to be able to claim the immunity.
[56:06.280 --> 56:09.280]  That was a Texas case, so I'll have to find it and I'll send it to you.
[56:09.280 --> 56:12.280]  Yeah, I'd very much like to see that.
[56:12.280 --> 56:17.280]  I think, yeah, I mean, a lot of them have to have some type of immunity,
[56:17.280 --> 56:22.280]  but not a complete immunity like so many of them claim to have.
[56:22.280 --> 56:28.280]  The way the immunity is structured, it's very well structured.
[56:28.280 --> 56:34.280]  If a policeman's doing his job, you can't sue him for doing his job.
[56:34.280 --> 56:37.280]  He's doing his job the way he's supposed to within the rules.
[56:37.280 --> 56:38.280]  Right.
[56:38.280 --> 56:45.280]  Even if he makes a mistake in the heat of the moment and makes a wrong decision,
[56:45.280 --> 56:47.280]  he can't be sued for that.
[56:47.280 --> 56:52.280]  Otherwise, policemen would see a difficult situation occur and say, heck with that.
[56:52.280 --> 56:54.280]  I'm not getting involved in that.
[56:54.280 --> 56:55.280]  I'll be sued.
[56:55.280 --> 56:57.280]  Well, yeah, I understand that.
[56:57.280 --> 56:59.280]  And I think that's true.
[56:59.280 --> 57:04.280]  And I think that's one of the reasons that the causes of action are so important that no matter what,
[57:04.280 --> 57:07.280]  you have to have a cause of action to sue somebody.
[57:07.280 --> 57:12.280]  And once you step outside the legal limits of your authority, that's a different story.
[57:12.280 --> 57:13.280]  Right.
[57:13.280 --> 57:20.280]  One of the things I was particularly glad to see in Texas is the Good Samaritan Law.
[57:20.280 --> 57:25.280]  If you need assistance and I come to your assistance,
[57:25.280 --> 57:31.280]  I can screw up everything horribly and make it incredibly worse.
[57:31.280 --> 57:35.280]  But I still can't be sued.
[57:35.280 --> 57:41.280]  So you can be comfortable in Texas if someone needs help.
[57:41.280 --> 57:43.280]  You can go help them.
[57:43.280 --> 57:48.280]  When I came back from Vietnam, I had to go downtown in Chicago,
[57:48.280 --> 57:55.280]  and I was in full dress uniform on Staten Madison, one of the busiest intersections on planet Earth.
[57:55.280 --> 57:58.280]  Eight lanes of traffic in both directions.
[57:58.280 --> 58:01.280]  I'm sorry, four lanes in both directions.
[58:01.280 --> 58:06.280]  The sidewalks were eight feet wide and just crammed with people.
[58:06.280 --> 58:13.280]  And I stood there looking around thinking, this is the scariest place on earth.
[58:13.280 --> 58:16.280]  I could fall down here and die.
[58:16.280 --> 58:18.280]  And these people would step over me.
[58:18.280 --> 58:22.280]  Wow, you just got back from Vietnam and Staten Madison was the scariest place on earth?
[58:22.280 --> 58:23.280]  Yes.
[58:23.280 --> 58:24.280]  That says a lot.
[58:24.280 --> 58:29.280]  I was in Saigon and they were selling monkeys there.
[58:29.280 --> 58:31.280]  You know, they eat monkeys. They're like chickens.
[58:31.280 --> 58:34.280]  And these guys are haggling over this monkey.
[58:34.280 --> 58:38.280]  And their haggling is a part of the culture.
[58:38.280 --> 58:39.280]  So they're arguing back and forth.
[58:39.280 --> 58:44.280]  And one guy would reach up and jerk this monkey out of the cage and look at his teeth.
[58:44.280 --> 58:47.280]  Okay, hold on, Randy. We're about to go to break. It's going to cut us off.
[58:47.280 --> 58:48.280]  Okay.
[58:48.280 --> 58:49.280]  Okay, sorry.
[58:49.280 --> 58:50.280]  One more thing on the other side.
[58:50.280 --> 58:52.280]  Okay, one more thing on the other side.
[58:52.280 --> 58:56.280]  And then we also have Chris from New York, Freeman from Minnesota, and Wendy from Tennessee.
[58:56.280 --> 59:15.280]  We have Steve from California.
[59:15.280 --> 59:30.280]  Okay.
[59:30.280 --> 59:59.280]  Okay.
[59:59.280 --> 01:00:05.280]  You are listening to the Rule of Law Radio Network at ruleoflawradio.com.
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[01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:29.280]  Thank you.
[01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:56.280]  All right.
[01:00:56.280 --> 01:01:06.280]  Okay.
[01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:09.280]  We are speaking with Jim in Texas.
[01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:12.280]  We also have some others on the line.
[01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:13.280]  We had Steve from California.
[01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:16.280]  Steve, if you'd like to call back in, that would be great.
[01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:18.280]  We've also got Wendy from Tennessee, more.
[01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:19.280]  I hear the thunder in the background.
[01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:22.280]  Like I said, listeners, if we drop off the line, just hang tight.
[01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:28.280]  We will be back because we've got the battery back up, so we just didn't have a chance to set it up in tandem with the other equipment.
[01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:31.280]  So, okay.
[01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:32.280]  Jim, go ahead.
[01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:33.280]  You had one other point.
[01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:35.280]  Yeah, I'll make it later.
[01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.280]  I'm going to drop off and let the others get on, and I'll just listen.
[01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:39.280]  Okay.
[01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:40.280]  All right.
[01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:43.280]  And I'll call back if I come up with some other stuff.
[01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:44.280]  Okay.
[01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:47.280]  But I appreciate it and let the other people on.
[01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:48.280]  All right.
[01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:49.280]  Thank you, Jim.
[01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:50.280]  Bye.
[01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:52.280]  Okay, let's go now to Chris in New York.
[01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:53.280]  Hey, guys.
[01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:54.280]  How are you doing?
[01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:55.280]  Good.
[01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:56.280]  Thanks for calling in.
[01:01:56.280 --> 01:01:57.280]  Chris, what's on your mind?
[01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:58.280]  A little bit off topic, if that's okay.
[01:01:58.280 --> 01:01:59.280]  Of course.
[01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:00.280]  Go ahead.
[01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:09.280]  I'm putting on my WWRD hat, my What Would Randy Do hat right now, and had a couple of just a couple of quick questions.
[01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:17.280]  Long story short, received a garbage ticket, an appearance ticket in the mail for garbage on one of the properties that I own.
[01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:24.280]  Looked up penal law, I'm sorry, CPL, criminal procedure law, and it said that all appearance tickets must be served personally.
[01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:29.280]  I sent in my motions to dismiss for failure for personal service.
[01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:43.280]  Have not heard back from the motions, but they continued, I guess, forward with the case anyway when I wasn't present, and said I failed to appear, and they're rescheduling my date.
[01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:48.280]  I was curious, I was under the assumption they had to, they couldn't sit still on a motion.
[01:02:48.280 --> 01:02:52.280]  They had to make a decision one way or another and then invite me back.
[01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:58.280]  Well, you need to go, yeah, no, you have to go before the court and argue the motion.
[01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:11.280]  On a motion of this nature, on a challenge to the jurisdiction, what I would maintain is that the presentment before the court is
[01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:16.280]  insufficient to invoke the subject matter jurisdiction of the court.
[01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:24.280]  And once the court is noticed that the pleadings failed to invoke the subject matter jurisdiction,
[01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:32.280]  it is the responsibility of the judge to dismiss the case with or without prejudice.
[01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:36.280]  In this case, it would be without prejudice.
[01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:45.280]  If he attempts to move forward, he's just like me if I go out and rent a uniform
[01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:50.280]  and get me a little badge and a little bubblegum machine and put on the top of my car and pull you over.
[01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:57.280]  Are you going to challenge my jurisdiction or are you going to charge me with impersonating an officer?
[01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:03.280]  You've notified the judge that he has no subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:08.280]  If he attempts to continue to exercise subject matter jurisdiction,
[01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:18.280]  it's my opinion that the best challenge to jurisdiction is a criminal complaint and motion to disqualify.
[01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:24.280]  Charge him with impersonating a public official and move to disqualify him.
[01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:26.280]  What state are you in?
[01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:28.280]  New York.
[01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:37.280]  Look in the New York Code, there's probably a provision for Quo Warento removal.
[01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:40.280]  Are you familiar with Quo Warento?
[01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:49.280]  I've heard it used before and I thought it wasn't applied anymore in the state of New York, but I may be wrong.
[01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:58.280]  Well, if they don't call it Quo Warento, there still is a provision for removing public officials from office
[01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.280]  when they commit crimes in office.
[01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:09.280]  And for a judge to exercise an authority he does not have is a crime.
[01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:16.280]  So I've been trying to get people to take this approach to challenges to the jurisdiction.
[01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:22.280]  It's not the one that should be in a position to have to determine if the judge has jurisdiction.
[01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:29.280]  It's the judge's place to determine if he has the authority to do what he's purporting to do.
[01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:42.280]  If he fails to make the determination, he's committing a criminal act and he has no immunity of any kind.
[01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:55.280]  You might look at preparing a countersuit and sue the judge himself, claiming he has no subject matter jurisdiction
[01:05:55.280 --> 01:06:03.280]  and has attempted to exert an authority he does not have and has harmed you as a result.
[01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:07.280]  That would be a hoot.
[01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:14.280]  Okay. I'm going to go back and listen to the archive to make sure I understood everything
[01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:18.280]  and I'll have to call back if I misunderstood.
[01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:26.280]  And I had a second, What Would Randy Do?, fighting a traffic situation for about eight months now,
[01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:36.280]  no speeding ticket, and I just came to find out today that the person who prosecuted the case is not a lawyer.
[01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:39.280]  She is a law clerk for the town law department.
[01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:42.280]  Oh my goodness.
[01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:51.280]  And now there was another, the town prosecutor present, but he allowed her to question the police officer on his side of the story.
[01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:58.280]  And I didn't know that. I thought she was just a new lawyer starting out, and it turned out she doesn't have a bar card.
[01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:03.280]  She's not even a lawyer at all. She is just a law clerk for the town.
[01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:13.280]  Wonderful. Charger with impersonating a public official and charge the prosecutor with impersonating a public official
[01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:22.280]  because he facilitated the commission of the crime and is therefore equally culpable.
[01:07:22.280 --> 01:07:34.280]  And move for a file bar grievance against the prosecutor and file criminally against both a motion to disqualify.
[01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:45.280]  I was just looking at this issue in North Carolina, and North Carolina had a special statute to deal with prosecutors.
[01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:51.280]  I'm not sure how it is in New York, but in North Carolina, prosecutors are not impeached.
[01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:57.280]  There's a special statute for removing them, and there may be in New York.
[01:07:57.280 --> 01:08:01.280]  And I found it under a Quarantoo search.
[01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:12.280]  Whether New York has it or not, if you do a New York State Quarantoo on Ixquick or one of the other search engines,
[01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:21.280]  you should get some hits on issues of removing public officials because that's specifically what Quarantoo goes to.
[01:08:21.280 --> 01:08:22.280]  Great.
[01:08:22.280 --> 01:08:32.280]  And it'll give you some tools. And if you find some cases that you can't locate, send me an email with the case citation.
[01:08:32.280 --> 01:08:39.280]  I'll pull it up. If you can get me some cases on point.
[01:08:39.280 --> 01:08:43.280]  Maybe an article references a case.
[01:08:43.280 --> 01:08:50.280]  Once I hit a case on point, it's pretty easy to find others close to that point.
[01:08:50.280 --> 01:08:58.280]  So if you get me one close, I can probably get you some that's dead bang right on, and I'll send them back to you.
[01:08:58.280 --> 01:09:04.280]  I'll work on that for the next week, and I'll let you know, too, that I filed my first bar grievances this week.
[01:09:04.280 --> 01:09:09.280]  And tomorrow I file my first criminal complaint against a police officer.
[01:09:09.280 --> 01:09:12.280]  Wonderful. Okay. How are you going to file it?
[01:09:12.280 --> 01:09:18.280]  Well, I'm first going to go to his superior officer to see how he wants to handle it.
[01:09:18.280 --> 01:09:22.280]  Just because I already sent him letters, and everyone ignored me.
[01:09:22.280 --> 01:09:29.280]  I went into court. I suffer from some pretty major back ailment, and I let somebody know that previously going in.
[01:09:29.280 --> 01:09:35.280]  And all rise, and I didn't rise, and the officer removed me from the court.
[01:09:35.280 --> 01:09:39.280]  And he said, I acknowledge your back ailment, but you didn't even look at the judge when he walked in.
[01:09:39.280 --> 01:09:45.280]  And I said, seriously? You brought me out of my arraignment to tell me I didn't look at the judge?
[01:09:45.280 --> 01:09:47.280]  I said, I have to go back in and be heard.
[01:09:47.280 --> 01:09:53.280]  He goes, no, you're not going back in. You can go. More of a direct, you're not doing anything.
[01:09:53.280 --> 01:09:55.280]  I said, how am I going to know if my case is going to be heard?
[01:09:55.280 --> 01:10:01.280]  Because I don't care. And he shuts the door and prevented me from going back in.
[01:10:01.280 --> 01:10:04.280]  Denying you the public court.
[01:10:04.280 --> 01:10:09.280]  Well, not only that, you could be in trouble like if the judge didn't even know what was going on.
[01:10:09.280 --> 01:10:13.280]  You might get in trouble for not appearing at your arraignment.
[01:10:13.280 --> 01:10:16.280]  That was part of my motion to dismiss I was talking about earlier.
[01:10:16.280 --> 01:10:19.280]  So I'm filing my first complaint tomorrow.
[01:10:19.280 --> 01:10:20.280]  Oh, my goodness.
[01:10:20.280 --> 01:10:28.280]  This is exactly the kinds of complaints that I find to be the most effective.
[01:10:28.280 --> 01:10:38.280]  Whether or not you ever get that adjudicated against that police officer, this will scar him badly forever.
[01:10:38.280 --> 01:10:40.280]  He will never forget what you've done to him.
[01:10:40.280 --> 01:10:46.280]  Yes. And also, by the way, I just got a phone call from Barry on my cell.
[01:10:46.280 --> 01:10:52.280]  And they have released people from Whole Foods and he's on the way back home and he's going to call when he gets back home in about 15 minutes.
[01:10:52.280 --> 01:10:55.280]  Okay. Wonderful.
[01:10:55.280 --> 01:10:57.280]  So this is perfect.
[01:10:57.280 --> 01:11:03.280]  You're going to become, when you go to the courthouse, you're going to wind up with a personal escort just like the president.
[01:11:03.280 --> 01:11:06.280]  You'll have your own secret service.
[01:11:06.280 --> 01:11:07.280]  Oh, my goodness.
[01:11:07.280 --> 01:11:14.280]  And one of the things I do is like if you're going to go back to the court and you expect a problem,
[01:11:14.280 --> 01:11:19.280]  when you go in the door, get security and tell them, you need to come with me.
[01:11:19.280 --> 01:11:21.280]  I'm going to need you.
[01:11:21.280 --> 01:11:24.280]  I expect these guys to do something improper.
[01:11:24.280 --> 01:11:28.280]  And when they do, I need a security officer there to witness it.
[01:11:28.280 --> 01:11:31.280]  Now, they don't get to call security on them, on you.
[01:11:31.280 --> 01:11:34.280]  You've already called it on them.
[01:11:34.280 --> 01:11:35.280]  Okay. Okay.
[01:11:35.280 --> 01:11:37.280]  We got a bunch of callers.
[01:11:37.280 --> 01:11:38.280]  Thank you, guys.
[01:11:38.280 --> 01:11:39.280]  Thanks for calling.
[01:11:39.280 --> 01:11:40.280]  All right. Yes.
[01:11:40.280 --> 01:11:41.280]  Thank you. Thank you.
[01:11:41.280 --> 01:11:42.280]  Yes.
[01:11:42.280 --> 01:11:49.280]  Okay. We are going to go now to Steve in California.
[01:11:49.280 --> 01:11:50.280]  Okay, Steve.
[01:11:50.280 --> 01:11:51.280]  Yes.
[01:11:51.280 --> 01:11:52.280]  Thanks for calling back in.
[01:11:52.280 --> 01:11:55.280]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:11:55.280 --> 01:12:02.280]  I've discovered something that might link a thread on a multibillion-dollar revenue stream for the state of California,
[01:12:02.280 --> 01:12:05.280]  and I wanted to run it by you guys.
[01:12:05.280 --> 01:12:08.280]  Interesting.
[01:12:08.280 --> 01:12:14.280]  The California State Constitution, Article 1, Declaration of Rights.
[01:12:14.280 --> 01:12:18.280]  May I read two paragraphs to you?
[01:12:18.280 --> 01:12:19.280]  Okay.
[01:12:19.280 --> 01:12:25.280]  The people shall have the right to fish upon and from the public lands of the state and in the waters thereof,
[01:12:25.280 --> 01:12:29.280]  excepted upon lands set aside for fish hatcheries,
[01:12:29.280 --> 01:12:35.280]  and no land owned by the state shall ever be sold or transferred without reserving the right in the people
[01:12:35.280 --> 01:12:38.280]  the absolute right to fish their pond,
[01:12:38.280 --> 01:12:44.280]  and no laws shall ever be passed making it a crime for the people to enter upon public lands within the state
[01:12:44.280 --> 01:12:49.280]  for the purpose of fishing any waters containing fish that have been planted therein by the state,
[01:12:49.280 --> 01:12:55.280]  provided that the legislature may by statute provide for the season when
[01:12:55.280 --> 01:13:00.280]  and the conditions under which different species of fish may be taken.
[01:13:00.280 --> 01:13:01.280]  Okay.
[01:13:01.280 --> 01:13:03.280]  That's the end of it.
[01:13:03.280 --> 01:13:12.280]  Found in the Fish and Game Code, Section 1-89.1, Paragraph 3.
[01:13:12.280 --> 01:13:20.280]  The provisions of this Code, in so far as they are substantially the same as existing statutory provisions
[01:13:20.280 --> 01:13:29.280]  relating to the same subject matter, shall be construed as reinstatements and continuations thereof,
[01:13:29.280 --> 01:13:31.280]  and not as new enactments.
[01:13:31.280 --> 01:13:33.280]  This Code shall not...
[01:13:33.280 --> 01:13:36.280]  This is the sentence I want you to pay attention to.
[01:13:36.280 --> 01:13:44.280]  This Code shall not impair any privilege granted or right acquired under any of the laws of this state
[01:13:44.280 --> 01:13:48.280]  prior to the date it takes effect.
[01:13:48.280 --> 01:13:57.280]  My question to you would be if it's an absolute right to fish on the waters of the state of California,
[01:13:57.280 --> 01:14:05.280]  then the fishing license requirement should not be able to infringe on that right.
[01:14:05.280 --> 01:14:12.280]  I got your email on that, and it certainly appears that way.
[01:14:12.280 --> 01:14:20.280]  Have you done any research on... legal research on that particular point?
[01:14:20.280 --> 01:14:21.280]  No, sir.
[01:14:21.280 --> 01:14:23.280]  That's why I was calling tonight.
[01:14:23.280 --> 01:14:27.280]  I do not have any of the legal search engines or anything that might access.
[01:14:27.280 --> 01:14:30.280]  I was wondering where I might begin my search on that.
[01:14:30.280 --> 01:14:31.280]  Okay.
[01:14:31.280 --> 01:14:33.280]  I will...
[01:14:33.280 --> 01:14:39.280]  If you don't get that from me in a day or two, send me another email to remind me.
[01:14:39.280 --> 01:14:40.280]  I can...
[01:14:40.280 --> 01:14:46.280]  What I'll do is I'll go into California Constitution and pull down the annotations.
[01:14:46.280 --> 01:14:51.280]  I'll pull that section of the Constitution with the annotations that come with it
[01:14:51.280 --> 01:14:55.280]  and send that to you, and that will give you lots of things to look into.
[01:14:55.280 --> 01:14:56.280]  What about Facebook?
[01:14:56.280 --> 01:14:58.280]  I also called the fishing department...
[01:14:58.280 --> 01:15:00.280]  That's what the annotations are.
[01:15:00.280 --> 01:15:01.280]  Okay.
[01:15:01.280 --> 01:15:04.280]  I called the fishing game department here locally,
[01:15:04.280 --> 01:15:09.280]  and the game commissioner swore up and down that fishing was a privilege, not a right.
[01:15:09.280 --> 01:15:16.280]  And I'm reading the law in black and white saying I don't understand how you can come up with that.
[01:15:16.280 --> 01:15:17.280]  They don't know what they're talking about.
[01:15:17.280 --> 01:15:21.280]  They just don't know what they're talking about, that's all.
[01:15:21.280 --> 01:15:22.280]  Yeah, people...
[01:15:22.280 --> 01:15:24.280]  That is a very common condition.
[01:15:24.280 --> 01:15:31.280]  And it goes to their training, and they just think that that's the way it is, and they just don't know.
[01:15:31.280 --> 01:15:36.280]  But you see this pretty much the same way I see it, that there's a...
[01:15:36.280 --> 01:15:40.280]  That goes to the plain language of the law.
[01:15:40.280 --> 01:15:48.280]  The plain language of the Constitution there seems very clear and hard to misunderstand.
[01:15:48.280 --> 01:15:52.280]  So it looks like you have a really good issue.
[01:15:52.280 --> 01:15:53.280]  Yeah.
[01:15:53.280 --> 01:16:03.280]  Also the disclaimer in the fishing game code itself, saying this code does not impair any rights.
[01:16:03.280 --> 01:16:08.280]  So it only applies to those people who don't have a right to fish.
[01:16:08.280 --> 01:16:10.280]  And that would be nobody.
[01:16:10.280 --> 01:16:13.280]  Right.
[01:16:13.280 --> 01:16:16.280]  But this is a multibillion-dollar revenue source for the state of California.
[01:16:16.280 --> 01:16:18.280]  Fishing is huge out here.
[01:16:18.280 --> 01:16:20.280]  The fishing licenses are about $42 a year.
[01:16:20.280 --> 01:16:24.280]  Well, maybe it has to do with the same thing as the driver's license issue.
[01:16:24.280 --> 01:16:30.280]  It may be required for people to have a license if it has to do with commerce,
[01:16:30.280 --> 01:16:36.280]  but if you're just fishing for yourself or your family, then it's a right, and maybe something like that.
[01:16:36.280 --> 01:16:37.280]  Good point.
[01:16:37.280 --> 01:16:38.280]  We'll be looking for that email.
[01:16:38.280 --> 01:16:39.280]  Thanks a lot.
[01:16:39.280 --> 01:16:40.280]  Okay, great.
[01:16:40.280 --> 01:16:45.280]  Yeah, I have a feeling that that's what it is, because obviously if it has to do with commerce,
[01:16:45.280 --> 01:16:51.280]  it seems reasonable that a license would be required, but not for feeding your own family.
[01:16:51.280 --> 01:16:53.280]  All right, we're going to go to Wendy when we get back.
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[01:18:04.280 --> 01:18:10.280]  I ain't gonna blame me.
[01:18:10.280 --> 01:18:16.280]  Don't blame me.
[01:18:16.280 --> 01:18:29.280]  Well, I ain't gonna fool me with that same old thing again.
[01:18:29.280 --> 01:18:34.280]  I was blindsided, but now I can see your hand
[01:18:34.280 --> 01:18:39.280]  You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hand
[01:18:39.280 --> 01:18:44.280]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trick again
[01:18:44.280 --> 01:19:04.280]  Ain't gonna fool me, ain't gonna fool me
[01:19:04.280 --> 01:19:09.280]  Ain't gonna drive me with that same old sucker pun
[01:19:09.280 --> 01:19:14.280]  I get it now, but then I must have it now
[01:19:14.280 --> 01:19:19.280]  Back then you had room to move, but now you're feeling the run
[01:19:19.280 --> 01:19:44.280]  Ain't gonna get me with that same old sucker pun
[01:19:44.280 --> 01:19:49.280]  Ain't gonna please me with that same old man pun
[01:19:49.280 --> 01:19:54.280]  You thought you were right, but now you got it all wrong
[01:19:54.280 --> 01:19:59.280]  It was a weak moment for me, but I had the power all along
[01:19:59.280 --> 01:20:15.280]  Ain't gonna please me with that same old man pun
[01:20:29.280 --> 01:20:33.280]  I got it all wrong
[01:20:33.280 --> 01:20:38.280]  You thought you were right, but now you got it all wrong
[01:20:38.280 --> 01:20:43.280]  It was a weak moment for me, but now you got it all wrong
[01:20:43.280 --> 01:20:49.280]  Ain't gonna please me with that same old man pun
[01:20:49.280 --> 01:20:55.280]  You thought you were right, but now you got it all wrong
[01:20:55.280 --> 01:21:04.200]  I was calling in to update you on my friend's house, the sale Tuesday.
[01:21:04.200 --> 01:21:09.640]  They actually supposedly had the sale.
[01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:18.480]  We had watchers there, of course, and they sold it for $240,000, okay, and it's supposed
[01:21:18.480 --> 01:21:21.880]  to be an own cash sale.
[01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:31.920]  And they had, like, the SWAT team out passing my friend's picture around, saying that he
[01:21:31.920 --> 01:21:36.560]  could be armed and dangerous to keep a lookout for him.
[01:21:36.560 --> 01:21:46.440]  Okay, well, come to find out, what I didn't know is years past, he had borrowed $30,000
[01:21:46.440 --> 01:21:48.480]  on the house to buy a guitar.
[01:21:48.480 --> 01:21:51.960]  Anyway, so this mortgage is still on there.
[01:21:51.960 --> 01:21:52.960]  He's paying it off.
[01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:55.240]  He's taking out his checking account each month.
[01:21:55.240 --> 01:22:00.800]  Well, he went today to the bank and asked them why would they give personal information
[01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:06.080]  out about him, but the loan officer says, somebody's pulling your chain.
[01:22:06.080 --> 01:22:10.800]  We own the note of your house.
[01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:15.880]  And so he called the main office in Gettysburg, Mississippi, or something like that, Gettysburg,
[01:22:15.880 --> 01:22:19.880]  and they said no one has called them about no sale of no house.
[01:22:19.880 --> 01:22:24.880]  So did they actually sell the house or what?
[01:22:24.880 --> 01:22:27.600]  Well, this sounds interesting.
[01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:36.240]  Is the state, no, wait, they're claiming to sell the house to collect on a lien?
[01:22:36.240 --> 01:22:39.960]  Collect on a judgment, supposedly, of a divorce judgment.
[01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:45.720]  Was a lien filed against the property?
[01:22:45.720 --> 01:22:47.600]  That's the only way to collect on a judgment.
[01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:54.960]  You have to file a lien or what you have, I'm sorry, the judgment creates a lien.
[01:22:54.960 --> 01:23:02.200]  You have to file a notice of lien and then move for enforcement of the judgment on the
[01:23:02.200 --> 01:23:03.200]  notice of lien.
[01:23:03.200 --> 01:23:04.200]  Yeah.
[01:23:04.200 --> 01:23:08.540]  And I would have to say also, if it has to do with a divorce case, this whole thing sounds
[01:23:08.540 --> 01:23:14.880]  highly suspect because I know from watching my friends and family going through divorces
[01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:20.600]  where the judge will award the house to one ex-spouse and the credit card debt to the
[01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:24.000]  other ex-spouse, but it's all just a gentleman's agreement.
[01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:29.840]  It doesn't make any difference at all because you cannot make someone else responsible for
[01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:33.400]  the payment on a note if they did not sign the original agreement with the bank.
[01:23:33.400 --> 01:23:35.920]  I mean, that happened to a close friend of mine.
[01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:42.880]  The husband had signed to be the responsible payor on the note and the wife did not.
[01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:50.240]  And then the judge awards the house and the debt of the house to the wife, but it's a
[01:23:50.240 --> 01:23:52.080]  bogus judgment.
[01:23:52.080 --> 01:23:58.520]  It cannot be enforced because the wife did not sign to be a responsible party on the
[01:23:58.520 --> 01:23:59.520]  original note.
[01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:02.040]  It's just simply a gentleman's agreement is all it is.
[01:24:02.040 --> 01:24:03.040]  It cannot be enforced.
[01:24:03.040 --> 01:24:08.360]  These types of judgments in divorces and then they award the credit card debt to the husband
[01:24:08.360 --> 01:24:14.160]  where the wife was the one who had taken out and signed to be the responsible party of
[01:24:14.160 --> 01:24:15.160]  the credit cards.
[01:24:15.160 --> 01:24:19.080]  Wait, the judge can't force the husband to pay off the credit card debt when it wasn't
[01:24:19.080 --> 01:24:20.080]  his credit cards.
[01:24:20.080 --> 01:24:24.520]  Neither can the judge force the wife to pay the house off when her name wasn't on the
[01:24:24.520 --> 01:24:25.520]  note.
[01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:27.680]  It's just simply a gentleman's agreement is all it is.
[01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:31.160]  So if that's one of these deals, it just simply cannot be enforced.
[01:24:31.160 --> 01:24:33.480]  It's just completely bogus on its face.
[01:24:33.480 --> 01:24:35.760]  This sounds even more bogus than that.
[01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:36.760]  It does.
[01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:43.440]  Well, there does not appear to be a judgment in the public record.
[01:24:43.440 --> 01:24:47.280]  There is not one.
[01:24:47.280 --> 01:24:50.280]  So the notice of lien has never been filed.
[01:24:50.280 --> 01:24:51.280]  Exactly.
[01:24:51.280 --> 01:24:52.280]  This is odd.
[01:24:52.280 --> 01:24:53.280]  What a scam.
[01:24:53.280 --> 01:25:00.280]  So they claim to have sold it on the courthouse steps.
[01:25:00.280 --> 01:25:06.960]  Someone's going to claim title and he has published less pendants.
[01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:07.960]  Yes.
[01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:15.720]  So whoever buys it has just threw away $240,000.
[01:25:15.720 --> 01:25:16.720]  You were saying?
[01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:17.720]  I think it was the city.
[01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:27.800]  It was a person supposedly out of town who bought the house.
[01:25:27.800 --> 01:25:28.800]  He's got a problem.
[01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:36.920]  It may be a scam on the court's part to scam this guy and rip off his, you know, whoever
[01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:40.400]  buys it, they ripped him off.
[01:25:40.400 --> 01:25:50.600]  Well, I really think they thought Buddy would give in and, you know, pay her off, you know,
[01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:51.600]  what they did.
[01:25:51.600 --> 01:25:53.680]  She came into the marriage.
[01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:57.760]  She lied about not being married and she was married.
[01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:00.000]  She might have only been married once before.
[01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:05.800]  She was married four times before and everything else.
[01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:08.800]  And the court still awarded her?
[01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:10.360]  $300,000.
[01:26:10.360 --> 01:26:16.520]  Is this property that accumulated during the marriage?
[01:26:16.520 --> 01:26:17.520]  No.
[01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:21.720]  He owned the property before the marriage.
[01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:26.960]  His name is the only name that appears on the title and appears as single.
[01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:27.960]  Okay.
[01:26:27.960 --> 01:26:36.040]  I just was doing some work on disqualification today and I found a case out of North Carolina,
[01:26:36.040 --> 01:26:39.080]  a Spivey in Ray.
[01:26:39.080 --> 01:26:40.080]  I'm sorry.
[01:26:40.080 --> 01:26:41.080]  That's not it.
[01:26:41.080 --> 01:26:50.560]  It's where they went after a judge, where the judge issued an order allowing two people
[01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:55.480]  who had DUIs to drive.
[01:26:55.480 --> 01:27:00.440]  And I guess somebody took offense to that and said that the judge had no subject matter
[01:27:00.440 --> 01:27:04.400]  jurisdiction to do this.
[01:27:04.400 --> 01:27:13.520]  But instead of simply challenging the subject matter jurisdiction, they went after the judge
[01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:17.280]  and they got him.
[01:27:17.280 --> 01:27:29.280]  And what the case said was that it went to a judge not enforcing the law, that if he
[01:27:29.280 --> 01:27:36.640]  failed to enforce the law, he's subject to sanction or removal.
[01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:40.840]  I was looking for it on this computer, but I'm on the wrong computer.
[01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:42.840]  I will get you that case.
[01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:46.600]  It was very well done.
[01:27:46.600 --> 01:27:53.280]  And it goes to the very issue that I've been going after saying that if a judge fails to
[01:27:53.280 --> 01:28:02.160]  properly apply the law to the facts, he's personally liable, that it's a violation of
[01:28:02.160 --> 01:28:03.760]  a ministerial duty.
[01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:18.360]  If this judge gave away property that wasn't part of the marriage, and I'm assuming that
[01:28:18.360 --> 01:28:25.160]  the wife received property she wasn't entitled to, and that's maybe inappropriate because
[01:28:25.160 --> 01:28:28.520]  I don't know the facts of the case.
[01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:31.920]  Does Buddy challenge the validity of the ruling?
[01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:36.040]  Oh, yes, he's been working on this for six years.
[01:28:36.040 --> 01:28:42.600]  Okay, if he feels that the court improperly applied the law to the facts, he should sue
[01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:44.080]  the judge personally.
[01:28:44.080 --> 01:28:52.960]  Well, he's going on a counter-claim, you know, and...
[01:28:52.960 --> 01:28:56.320]  Well he might also, you know, instead of...
[01:28:56.320 --> 01:28:57.320]  In the civil.
[01:28:57.320 --> 01:29:01.520]  Yeah, and go to the civil with a cause of action.
[01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:08.280]  Now, they may question the counter-claim, the validity of it, and not be quite so frightened
[01:29:08.280 --> 01:29:14.480]  of that, and it probably will be hard to get that adjudicated, even if it's correct.
[01:29:14.480 --> 01:29:19.080]  But a cause of action in the civil is a whole other animal.
[01:29:19.080 --> 01:29:24.560]  That's where those people live, and that's what they deal with every day.
[01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:27.360]  We're about to go to break.
[01:29:27.360 --> 01:29:28.360]  Did we get Barry...
[01:29:28.360 --> 01:29:30.160]  Deb, did we get Barry back up?
[01:29:30.160 --> 01:29:32.440]  No, Barry has not called back in yet.
[01:29:32.440 --> 01:29:34.840]  I expect him to call back in any minute.
[01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:39.840]  Okay, we'll come back to this on the other side, Wendy, because this sounds interesting.
[01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:40.840]  Yes, indeed.
[01:29:40.840 --> 01:29:45.760]  And callers, if you'd like to call in and try to sneak in before Barry gets back, it's
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[01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:52.920]  We've got open phone lines, oh, Freeman's on the line, we'll take Freeman after we finish
[01:29:52.920 --> 01:29:53.920]  with Wendy.
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[01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:52.520]  Okay, the rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[01:31:52.520 --> 01:32:04.000]  Okay, we are here talking with Wendy from Tennessee about a very bizarre courthouse
[01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:07.160]  sale of a house.
[01:32:07.160 --> 01:32:09.600]  So Barry has not called back in yet.
[01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:11.400]  Freeman dropped off the line again.
[01:32:11.400 --> 01:32:16.800]  So go ahead, Randy, what you were saying to Wendy right before we went to break.
[01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:21.520]  So let me make sure I have this straight.
[01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:31.000]  What's going on with Buddy's house essentially only tangentially has to do with you guys
[01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:33.480]  beating him up.
[01:32:33.480 --> 01:32:36.320]  This really comes out of a divorce proceeding.
[01:32:36.320 --> 01:32:37.320]  Exactly.
[01:32:37.320 --> 01:32:48.120]  Yeah, so and the judges acted against Buddy because of what he's done to him otherwise.
[01:32:48.120 --> 01:32:50.240]  You know, this may be a great opportunity.
[01:32:50.240 --> 01:32:54.680]  Well, I guess I'm talking, I forget who I'm talking to.
[01:32:54.680 --> 01:33:02.720]  Wendy, you had already recognized that it's a great opportunity to go after the judge.
[01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:08.840]  Even if there is some validity to what the judge is doing, there were procedures that
[01:33:08.840 --> 01:33:18.720]  had to be handled and dealing with the lien holders on the note is definitely one of the
[01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:23.400]  things because the bank is first in line, first in time.
[01:33:23.400 --> 01:33:31.560]  Yes, and then Buddy has his liens on it as well.
[01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:34.680]  And then once the bank is done, then Buddy's liens.
[01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:42.160]  What they may call Buddy's liens is alter ego.
[01:33:42.160 --> 01:33:47.760]  If Buddy has a lien on his own house, okay, he's done that through the real man as opposed
[01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:48.760]  to the straw man.
[01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:55.760]  Yeah, well see, his divorce was under S.L. Summer instead of Stanley Lee Summer or Buddy
[01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:56.760]  Summer.
[01:33:56.760 --> 01:34:00.360]  It was S.L. Summer, just initials.
[01:34:00.360 --> 01:34:07.960]  Okay, and he allowed the, did he raise any abatement issue?
[01:34:07.960 --> 01:34:13.880]  Yes, he, yeah, we've done that too.
[01:34:13.880 --> 01:34:24.800]  With his divorce, the judge, when Buddy was on the witness stand, he just got up and left
[01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:25.800]  and abandoned.
[01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:28.520]  He said, I've had enough and left.
[01:34:28.520 --> 01:34:36.840]  He never adjudicated the divorce until weeks later.
[01:34:36.840 --> 01:34:41.440]  So he didn't, wait a minute, he walked out of the hearing.
[01:34:41.440 --> 01:34:44.040]  Is there no other hearing after that?
[01:34:44.040 --> 01:34:46.080]  No, that's it.
[01:34:46.080 --> 01:34:54.280]  So actually, Buddy's still on the witness stand.
[01:34:54.280 --> 01:34:59.560]  And who was examining Buddy, his attorney or was he on cross?
[01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:05.600]  On cross, her attorney was examining him.
[01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:07.080]  This is crazy.
[01:35:07.080 --> 01:35:14.320]  Well, then that would seem to harm her attorney because Buddy will have been able to get his
[01:35:14.320 --> 01:35:19.040]  testimony in and his testimony become uncontested.
[01:35:19.040 --> 01:35:28.600]  Yeah, but kind of funny, his attorneys, which was a good old boy's attorneys, when he questioned
[01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:34.120]  his attorneys about the judge leaving, they both said he did not because they were good
[01:35:34.120 --> 01:35:35.120]  friends of the judge.
[01:35:35.120 --> 01:35:41.880]  Did he file bar grievances against his attorney in a malpractice suit for the full amount
[01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:43.880]  against his attorneys?
[01:35:43.880 --> 01:35:44.880]  Yes.
[01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:47.880]  How did I know?
[01:35:47.880 --> 01:36:01.440]  He's done everything you can think of, but now his attorney he had then is the mayor.
[01:36:01.440 --> 01:36:03.440]  He got lean on the mayor.
[01:36:03.440 --> 01:36:09.160]  Did he file a civil action or did he just file a claim?
[01:36:09.160 --> 01:36:14.640]  He just filed a claim, but he needs to go back after a civil action.
[01:36:14.640 --> 01:36:15.640]  I understand that.
[01:36:15.640 --> 01:36:20.840]  Yeah, he needs to prepare a good civil action against him and that'll really drive them
[01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:23.080]  crazy and include the judge.
[01:36:23.080 --> 01:36:29.240]  When you do a civil, they get in a position to where they have to respond because it's
[01:36:29.240 --> 01:36:32.800]  the laws they use every day.
[01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:40.200]  Then they know that you're just looking for more charges to file against them.
[01:36:40.200 --> 01:36:42.840]  This really begins to wear them down.
[01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:48.600]  Robert Fox, in his case in Jackson County, they have really been working him over for
[01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:55.400]  a year or so, but it's beginning to wind down on them.
[01:36:55.400 --> 01:37:04.280]  They just offered him a deal on 19 bogus drug charges if he'll just take time served.
[01:37:04.280 --> 01:37:11.360]  They illegally held him on a bogus charge and now they want to convert that time into
[01:37:11.360 --> 01:37:15.120]  time served on this first bogus charge.
[01:37:15.120 --> 01:37:17.880]  That doesn't sound like a good deal.
[01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:19.920]  Maybe neither.
[01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:27.200]  Well, what it is is an admission, essentially on their part, you could say they blinked.
[01:37:27.200 --> 01:37:31.400]  Yeah, but they're also asking Robert to admit to a crime that he didn't commit.
[01:37:31.400 --> 01:37:32.400]  No, no, no.
[01:37:32.400 --> 01:37:33.400]  They didn't.
[01:37:33.400 --> 01:37:34.400]  This is all they asked for.
[01:37:34.400 --> 01:37:38.720]  But you said that they're asking him to accept time served on the first bogus charge.
[01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:40.760]  Let me finish.
[01:37:40.760 --> 01:37:50.120]  They said if you will forego a jury trial, we will cap punishment at time served.
[01:37:50.120 --> 01:37:52.080]  Okay, fine.
[01:37:52.080 --> 01:37:59.200]  But the point is the case would still be adjudicated with a level of guilt towards Robert Fox.
[01:37:59.200 --> 01:38:00.960]  No, no, no, no.
[01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:06.680]  What the prosecutor said is we won't ask for any more time than you've already served if
[01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:09.120]  we win.
[01:38:09.120 --> 01:38:10.120]  If we win.
[01:38:10.120 --> 01:38:11.120]  Oh, if we win.
[01:38:11.120 --> 01:38:14.720]  I thought you were saying that let's just make a deal.
[01:38:14.720 --> 01:38:17.920]  There's no plea involved.
[01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:24.160]  They're just saying if you'll let this be adjudicated before the judge, then we will
[01:38:24.160 --> 01:38:28.160]  cap the punishment at time served so he doesn't have to worry about going to jail.
[01:38:28.160 --> 01:38:36.800]  What they don't know yet is Robert went before this judge and the judge told him there will
[01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:45.360]  be no interlocutory appeals and I told Robert, heck, you should file an interlocutory appeal
[01:38:45.360 --> 01:38:46.360]  over that.
[01:38:46.360 --> 01:38:48.800]  Well, wait a minute, Randy, I don't understand.
[01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:57.040]  I mean, are they just saying, I mean, how can you adjudicate the case if he's not going
[01:38:57.040 --> 01:38:58.040]  to plea?
[01:38:58.040 --> 01:39:00.640]  I mean, what does that make any sense?
[01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:02.120]  He's already pled not guilty.
[01:39:02.120 --> 01:39:06.280]  Well, then why would he have time served for anything then?
[01:39:06.280 --> 01:39:16.040]  He asked for a jury trial and they said, okay, they're looking at 19 Class A misdemeanors.
[01:39:16.040 --> 01:39:18.480]  That could get him nine and a half years.
[01:39:18.480 --> 01:39:19.480]  Okay.
[01:39:19.480 --> 01:39:25.440]  That's what he's looking at and then they said, okay, tell you what we'll do.
[01:39:25.440 --> 01:39:32.880]  If you'll agree to a bench trial, we will ask for no more time than you've already served
[01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:33.880]  so there's no chance.
[01:39:33.880 --> 01:39:36.040]  Okay, that's where I was, that's where the missing link was.
[01:39:36.040 --> 01:39:41.520]  If you agree to a bench trial, that was the part that was missing.
[01:39:41.520 --> 01:39:46.400]  So to me, that says they blinked big time.
[01:39:46.400 --> 01:39:51.840]  See, they've got a visiting judge and they always bring in a hanging judge.
[01:39:51.840 --> 01:39:56.480]  If you disqualify the sitting judge, they bring in a retired judge who doesn't care
[01:39:56.480 --> 01:39:59.000]  and he'll spur your royal.
[01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:05.800]  So since the judge told him there will be no interlocutory appeals, he needs to file
[01:40:05.800 --> 01:40:14.960]  a motion to disqualify the judge for cause and file an interlocutory appeal of the ruling.
[01:40:14.960 --> 01:40:20.600]  And disqualify this judge for cause and then they'll appoint the next hanging judge and
[01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:26.000]  disqualify him on your constitutional disqualifications.
[01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:32.720]  They run out of hanging judges.
[01:40:32.720 --> 01:40:36.120]  I just called, go ahead, Wendy.
[01:40:36.120 --> 01:40:43.320]  Oh, I was just thinking, would not the sheriff be in contact with Buddy at any time?
[01:40:43.320 --> 01:40:47.040]  It's been since Tuesday.
[01:40:47.040 --> 01:40:49.080]  Is Buddy still in the house?
[01:40:49.080 --> 01:40:50.080]  Yes.
[01:40:50.080 --> 01:40:51.720]  Oh, good.
[01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:54.640]  I would think so.
[01:40:54.640 --> 01:40:58.620]  Now here, okay, here's the problem, he's in the house.
[01:40:58.620 --> 01:41:04.400]  Now they have to start an eviction proceeding.
[01:41:04.400 --> 01:41:10.720]  Who's the judge who's going to preside over the eviction proceeding?
[01:41:10.720 --> 01:41:11.720]  I don't know.
[01:41:11.720 --> 01:41:17.560]  Are there any left in Texas that you haven't filed liens against?
[01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:18.560]  In Tennessee, there is.
[01:41:18.560 --> 01:41:19.560]  In Tennessee, I mean, Tennessee.
[01:41:19.560 --> 01:41:24.560]  You may need to come to Texas to find one.
[01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:30.280]  In Tennessee, I would- The judge has liens on him.
[01:41:30.280 --> 01:41:31.280]  Pardon me?
[01:41:31.280 --> 01:41:34.720]  He leans, and the Maritime liens on him.
[01:41:34.720 --> 01:41:41.480]  Yeah, you've got liens on everybody, so they're disqualified as a matter of-
[01:41:41.480 --> 01:41:51.480]  Well, he said, the judge says that this is a special cause that he didn't have to excuse
[01:41:51.480 --> 01:41:54.480]  himself from it.
[01:41:54.480 --> 01:41:56.920]  Did he tell the Constitution that?
[01:41:56.920 --> 01:41:58.920]  No, he didn't.
[01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:02.480]  See, we had that problem in North Carolina.
[01:42:02.480 --> 01:42:08.480]  We had a- Apparently, the governor didn't like the oaths that everybody was swearing
[01:42:08.480 --> 01:42:16.360]  to, so he decided to change it, but he forgot to tell the Constitution.
[01:42:16.360 --> 01:42:23.360]  So the Constitution still thinks they're filing the same oath, and they have a problem.
[01:42:23.360 --> 01:42:29.880]  So I suspect your judge is going to have the same problem when he's trying to adjudication
[01:42:29.880 --> 01:42:33.720]  which he is disqualified as a matter of law.
[01:42:33.720 --> 01:42:34.720]  Yeah.
[01:42:34.720 --> 01:42:42.000]  Well, on this hearing where he brought up the stealing of the property, is this is the hearing
[01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:47.280]  that me and Bill, and me, my husband, and Buddy was all involved in.
[01:42:47.280 --> 01:42:51.600]  I mean, they combined all our hearings into one.
[01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:56.240]  And this hearing is where the judge just left the bench.
[01:42:56.240 --> 01:43:01.320]  He didn't adjudicate, didn't close the court or nothing.
[01:43:01.320 --> 01:43:03.160]  He just got up and walked off.
[01:43:03.160 --> 01:43:07.720]  And this is when I went to the podium and said, on and for the record, I declare a summary
[01:43:07.720 --> 01:43:10.400]  judgment in favor of the third-party plaintiffs.
[01:43:10.400 --> 01:43:18.360]  That's after he abandoned his court, I said, the judge has abandoned his court.
[01:43:18.360 --> 01:43:21.200]  Wendy, you scare me.
[01:43:21.200 --> 01:43:22.200]  Okay.
[01:43:22.200 --> 01:43:25.880]  We're about to go to break.
[01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:29.760]  We need to get an authority.
[01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:30.760]  Okay.
[01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:32.560]  We're about to go to break.
[01:43:32.560 --> 01:43:33.560]  Do you have any more?
[01:43:33.560 --> 01:43:38.800]  Bill, I'll let you go so someone else can get on, okay, and y'all have a good night.
[01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:39.800]  Thank you.
[01:43:39.800 --> 01:43:42.520]  All right, listen, and it looks like we're going to have Barry Cooper when we get back
[01:43:42.520 --> 01:43:44.040]  on the other side.
[01:43:44.040 --> 01:43:46.040]  So just hang tight.
[01:43:46.040 --> 01:43:47.320]  We're going to try to get him up on the line.
[01:43:47.320 --> 01:43:48.840]  He's been having trouble getting through.
[01:43:48.840 --> 01:43:50.680]  So Scott, hang on.
[01:43:50.680 --> 01:43:51.680]  Thank you for calling in.
[01:43:51.680 --> 01:43:54.200]  Also, Wendy, this is the rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[01:43:54.200 --> 01:43:57.200]  We'll be right back.
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[01:45:50.000 --> 01:46:19.800]  Alright, we are back.
[01:46:19.800 --> 01:46:24.200]  The rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stephens and we are joined by Barry Cooper
[01:46:24.200 --> 01:46:25.200]  again.
[01:46:25.200 --> 01:46:30.920]  Thank goodness, fortunately, I'm so glad you guys made it back home in one piece.
[01:46:30.920 --> 01:46:39.760]  Tornadoes tonight, yeah, cops last night and the tornadoes tonight, so well we've got one
[01:46:39.760 --> 01:46:43.920]  final segment here, so callers, we're just going to ask you to hold off on the calls
[01:46:43.920 --> 01:46:47.200]  of this segment so we can speak with our guests.
[01:46:47.200 --> 01:46:53.560]  So Barry, let's continue, you wanted to discuss something, you had a message for the Libertarian
[01:46:53.560 --> 01:46:54.560]  Party.
[01:46:54.560 --> 01:47:00.640]  Right, yes, we were at Whole Foods stores when that storm came in and they shut the
[01:47:00.640 --> 01:47:05.880]  doors and made everybody go back to the coolers because of those tornadoes, so sorry I had
[01:47:05.880 --> 01:47:10.520]  to bounce out of there, but everything's good, the storm looks like it's passed over.
[01:47:10.520 --> 01:47:16.840]  What I wanted to mention to the Libertarian Party, and if you want more details on this,
[01:47:16.840 --> 01:47:23.640]  look up the speech that I just gave at a DVD signing at Brave New Books in Austin Friday
[01:47:23.640 --> 01:47:33.240]  night and that entire speech has been YouTubed, but we need to remember that the Republicans
[01:47:33.240 --> 01:47:43.200]  and Democrats are our demographic, we're only getting 3% of the vote, which tells me there's
[01:47:43.200 --> 01:47:51.400]  not enough Libertarians, and I think one of the key problems with my party is it seems
[01:47:51.400 --> 01:47:57.760]  there's an attitude in my party that says the Libertarian Church is the only church
[01:47:57.760 --> 01:48:05.240]  to belong to in Texas or in America, and we seem to have experts, some of the smartest
[01:48:05.240 --> 01:48:15.560]  people in our party, some geniuses, and they seem to have a pet agenda or one area that
[01:48:15.560 --> 01:48:23.120]  they're ex in, they might have written a book in that area or studied it extensively,
[01:48:23.120 --> 01:48:27.120]  and those are the people you want to go to if you ever need questions answered in that
[01:48:27.120 --> 01:48:34.200]  area, but unfortunately it seems those people in our party with those gifts are also in
[01:48:34.200 --> 01:48:42.000]  control of our party, and if you don't agree with their expert one agenda, they kind of
[01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:49.760]  shun, shun the person or make them feel less, it's almost spiritual, it kind of reminds
[01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:56.800]  me of church, so what I'm saying is if we really want to win as Libertarians, we need
[01:48:56.800 --> 01:49:03.800]  to learn how to cross lines and become tripartisan with the Democrats and the Republicans, we
[01:49:03.800 --> 01:49:10.800]  will never win it acting kooky with our little pet agendas and screaming at each other on
[01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:16.480]  the internet like we do because we don't agree with one other person's, one or the other's
[01:49:16.480 --> 01:49:28.960]  pet doctrine, so I think what we're trying to bring to the table is a sense of well-being
[01:49:28.960 --> 01:49:35.680]  within our party, we're outside looking into it, they don't see it as kooky, they see it
[01:49:35.680 --> 01:49:42.960]  as cool, so I encourage the Libertarians out there to start mixing with the Republicans
[01:49:42.960 --> 01:49:51.920]  and Democrats and quit hating so much on our current president and anybody from any other
[01:49:51.920 --> 01:50:02.880]  party, we're all Americans, we can stand 100% for the freedoms that the Libertarian party
[01:50:02.880 --> 01:50:13.720]  stands for without being so hateful and dogmatic and I think that's really hurt our party and
[01:50:13.720 --> 01:50:21.160]  we want to change that and others in the Libertarian party are in agreement with that, so just
[01:50:21.160 --> 01:50:27.960]  chill, my advice to our party is just chill a little bit, understand that we've not scored
[01:50:27.960 --> 01:50:34.280]  a touchdown yet, we're thankful that we get 3% of the vote, but it's time to win people,
[01:50:34.280 --> 01:50:42.240]  it's time to win and part of that is going to have to be a total attitude change within
[01:50:42.240 --> 01:50:46.360]  our party and that's what we hope to bring to the table.
[01:50:46.360 --> 01:50:50.440]  Wonderful point and Barry, while we have you on the line, something that I wanted to address
[01:50:50.440 --> 01:50:57.800]  with you, I don't know if you're familiar with Randy Kelton's work here, but his field
[01:50:57.800 --> 01:51:09.560]  mainly in activism is to file criminal charges against public officials.
[01:51:09.560 --> 01:51:18.440]  That type of activism is right, but I haven't seen it work, I've seen a lot of people, a
[01:51:18.440 --> 01:51:25.920]  good activist, spend a lot of energy filing those criminal complaints against those public
[01:51:25.920 --> 01:51:31.960]  officials only for them to just be thrown in the trash can by those same public officials,
[01:51:31.960 --> 01:51:40.280]  so even though it's legally correct and all those papers and arguments are right, the
[01:51:40.280 --> 01:51:48.200]  people in control of those papers are discarding them, so to me personally, I want to put my
[01:51:48.200 --> 01:51:54.880]  efforts somewhere that's doing more than that, because it's not working.
[01:51:54.880 --> 01:52:02.960]  Well, Randy's been able to come up with some techniques that are working, in fact one of
[01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:03.960]  our last callers...
[01:52:03.960 --> 01:52:10.640]  Have there been any successful cases where the charges stuck on the prosecutor?
[01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:15.840]  The charges are not the point, they never were the point.
[01:52:15.840 --> 01:52:23.680]  The point is getting the officials to change their practices and procedures.
[01:52:23.680 --> 01:52:28.000]  And that is happening, in fact just the threat of the...
[01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:32.960]  When we went up to the county prosecutor in Williamson County and I made him cop to a
[01:52:32.960 --> 01:52:37.800]  felony tampering with a government document in his own office in front of me and about
[01:52:37.800 --> 01:52:43.820]  six other people, about a week after that, they started changing their procedures as
[01:52:43.820 --> 01:52:47.560]  far as how they handle the paperwork from the magistrate to the court.
[01:52:47.560 --> 01:52:48.560]  And that's really...
[01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:53.600]  Then it's effective, then it's effective, then I would encourage those efforts.
[01:52:53.600 --> 01:52:57.800]  And the reason I brought it up is because what you're doing is effective and I would
[01:52:57.800 --> 01:53:05.480]  like to see coordination on both parts, because Randy, he's back here writing the paperwork
[01:53:05.480 --> 01:53:11.200]  and you're out there on the front lines, and so I would like to see maybe coordinated effort
[01:53:11.200 --> 01:53:16.000]  between us and you to be able to do some real damage to the bad guys here.
[01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:19.200]  Sure, I love it, that sounds great.
[01:53:19.200 --> 01:53:24.880]  We're going to be leaning heavily on you guys with all your contacts and you're very popular
[01:53:24.880 --> 01:53:30.320]  to help us with the selection, so we want to help you guys however we can as well.
[01:53:30.320 --> 01:53:38.080]  Yeah, Barry, you are opening a tremendous door right in their faces.
[01:53:38.080 --> 01:53:43.640]  And then if you come in on every due process violation they make or every violation of
[01:53:43.640 --> 01:53:51.760]  a law and file against them, well, the boss is not going to want to adjudicate the complaint.
[01:53:51.760 --> 01:53:54.120]  Then you go after the boss.
[01:53:54.120 --> 01:54:00.920]  And then I do this, the first thing I want to do, I always want to get to the judge.
[01:54:00.920 --> 01:54:05.320]  I want to file criminal charges against the judge for protecting the prosecutor, for protecting
[01:54:05.320 --> 01:54:06.320]  the policeman.
[01:54:06.320 --> 01:54:10.480]  Now all of a sudden everybody's got a problem here.
[01:54:10.480 --> 01:54:16.400]  And yeah, for the most part, you'll almost never get one of these completely adjudicated,
[01:54:16.400 --> 01:54:21.360]  but the problem is, it's like playing Russian roulette.
[01:54:21.360 --> 01:54:22.480]  With the grand jury.
[01:54:22.480 --> 01:54:24.280]  That jerk gets it done.
[01:54:24.280 --> 01:54:25.280]  Yeah.
[01:54:25.280 --> 01:54:30.360]  I did a seminar in Colorado and asked who here would like to play Russian roulette?
[01:54:30.360 --> 01:54:34.000]  What, no takers?
[01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:39.200]  So not only that, but we're also getting into commercial law as well, filing liens against
[01:54:39.200 --> 01:54:40.200]  their bonds.
[01:54:40.200 --> 01:54:42.520]  So we follow the criminal charges against them.
[01:54:42.520 --> 01:54:46.600]  And if that doesn't get them worked up enough, then we start leaning their bonds.
[01:54:46.600 --> 01:54:50.520]  And that really has some serious effect.
[01:54:50.520 --> 01:54:53.520]  Wendy in Tennessee, I don't know if you've heard, she was on earlier tonight.
[01:54:53.520 --> 01:54:57.520]  She's been following our program since the beginning and she never knew anything about
[01:54:57.520 --> 01:54:59.780]  law or doing any of this stuff before the program.
[01:54:59.780 --> 01:55:02.880]  And now she's taken it way steps further than we have.
[01:55:02.880 --> 01:55:04.780]  And she's got the whole county locked down.
[01:55:04.780 --> 01:55:06.320]  They can't even hardly function.
[01:55:06.320 --> 01:55:10.400]  The courts, everything is shut down because she's filed so many criminal charges and leaned
[01:55:10.400 --> 01:55:11.400]  all their bonds.
[01:55:11.400 --> 01:55:12.400]  So...
[01:55:12.400 --> 01:55:16.320]  Wendy, now you think you're bad there?
[01:55:16.320 --> 01:55:18.680]  Which courthouse did she shut down?
[01:55:18.680 --> 01:55:22.280]  This is in Blount County, Tennessee.
[01:55:22.280 --> 01:55:26.240]  So if we call Blount County, Tennessee, their courthouse is shut down right now because
[01:55:26.240 --> 01:55:27.240]  of her...
[01:55:27.240 --> 01:55:28.240]  Let's open back up.
[01:55:28.240 --> 01:55:29.240]  Wait a minute.
[01:55:29.240 --> 01:55:30.240]  Wait a minute, Barry.
[01:55:30.240 --> 01:55:31.240]  Are you expecting magic?
[01:55:31.240 --> 01:55:33.240]  Oh, no.
[01:55:33.240 --> 01:55:34.240]  No, no, no.
[01:55:34.240 --> 01:55:35.240]  I'm expecting...
[01:55:35.240 --> 01:55:36.240]  We can't label bond.
[01:55:36.240 --> 01:55:37.240]  No, no, no.
[01:55:37.240 --> 01:55:38.240]  Listen.
[01:55:38.240 --> 01:55:41.720]  I get emails all the time talking about this very thing.
[01:55:41.720 --> 01:55:46.940]  And what I've seen are reports that are false.
[01:55:46.940 --> 01:55:49.560]  People claiming, I did this and here's what happened.
[01:55:49.560 --> 01:55:56.000]  And when I double check to find out if it's working, I want to use it.
[01:55:56.000 --> 01:55:57.000]  Right.
[01:55:57.000 --> 01:55:58.000]  I want to use it.
[01:55:58.000 --> 01:55:59.000]  Oh, absolutely.
[01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:05.200]  If you ask about Wendy Rosenbaum, you will absolutely get an earful.
[01:56:05.200 --> 01:56:07.000]  Just like with me.
[01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:13.440]  You call Hayes County, Williamson County, Travis County, Stevenson County, Wichita,
[01:56:13.440 --> 01:56:23.040]  Tarrant, Dallas, Stevens, Brown, Hayes, they all know me real well.
[01:56:23.040 --> 01:56:28.200]  And my real purpose is not getting these people indicted.
[01:56:28.200 --> 01:56:31.800]  I want to push them to change their policies.
[01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:33.480]  And we have managed to do that.
[01:56:33.480 --> 01:56:34.480]  That's for sure.
[01:56:34.480 --> 01:56:35.480]  Good, good.
[01:56:35.480 --> 01:56:36.480]  That's all I have.
[01:56:36.480 --> 01:56:37.480]  That's my only goal always.
[01:56:37.480 --> 01:56:38.480]  Well, listen.
[01:56:38.480 --> 01:56:39.480]  We're running out of time.
[01:56:39.480 --> 01:56:40.480]  We've got like two minutes left.
[01:56:40.480 --> 01:56:45.360]  So I wanted to give the floor to Barry at this point just to say whatever else you wanted
[01:56:45.360 --> 01:56:46.360]  to say.
[01:56:46.360 --> 01:56:49.920]  And Barry, we need to have you back or we're not being chased by tornadoes so we can have
[01:56:49.920 --> 01:56:50.920]  more time.
[01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:58.720]  And don't think I was being negative about that, but as a leader in the activism world,
[01:56:58.720 --> 01:57:03.440]  I have to put everything in perspective because I get asked all the time, what can I do to
[01:57:03.440 --> 01:57:05.360]  be effective?
[01:57:05.360 --> 01:57:08.880]  And I do see, I'm not saying your program is this.
[01:57:08.880 --> 01:57:13.920]  I'm saying there are a lot of programs out there that spend a massive amount of energy.
[01:57:13.920 --> 01:57:16.040]  Nothing ever gets in the media.
[01:57:16.040 --> 01:57:17.760]  Nobody ever hears anything about it.
[01:57:17.760 --> 01:57:20.560]  And there really isn't a change.
[01:57:20.560 --> 01:57:26.280]  The people in the battle are so excited from it and they're dealing with it every day.
[01:57:26.280 --> 01:57:31.400]  So they think everybody knows about it and the truth is, that's not the case.
[01:57:31.400 --> 01:57:36.560]  I don't know your efforts well enough to know, I'm just, so I wasn't being negative.
[01:57:36.560 --> 01:57:39.560]  I think all activism efforts are wonderful.
[01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:45.560]  I think we're in 2009 and some work better than others.
[01:57:45.560 --> 01:57:46.560]  Yes.
[01:57:46.560 --> 01:57:48.720]  And I was agreeing with everything you were saying.
[01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:55.440]  I do one tiny, focused little thing and I know I only do one tiny, focused little thing
[01:57:55.440 --> 01:57:58.600]  and one thing is not enough.
[01:57:58.600 --> 01:58:05.800]  I can't do everything so we need to all work together and work on what we do and not put
[01:58:05.800 --> 01:58:11.440]  down, you know, I appreciate what you do and that you don't understand all of what I do.
[01:58:11.440 --> 01:58:12.440]  That's okay.
[01:58:12.440 --> 01:58:13.440]  I understand that.
[01:58:13.440 --> 01:58:17.800]  We just all need to move in the same direction and I very much agree with your presentation.
[01:58:17.800 --> 01:58:23.120]  So listen, we have about 30 seconds left so Barry, any final words here and then we definitely
[01:58:23.120 --> 01:58:25.080]  need to have you back.
[01:58:25.080 --> 01:58:26.080]  Support us.
[01:58:26.080 --> 01:58:34.560]  Go to electbarrycooper.com and give us a donation or donate by ordering my DVDs at nevergetbusted.com.
[01:58:34.560 --> 01:58:38.160]  Absolutely and we want to help sell your DVDs also.
[01:58:38.160 --> 01:58:39.800]  Thank you.
[01:58:39.800 --> 01:58:44.680]  And these Rob Cops, we want to be the clean up crew.
[01:58:44.680 --> 01:58:48.520]  You know, you go out and bust some Barry and then me and Randy will follow up behind you
[01:58:48.520 --> 01:58:52.960]  and get the criminal charges to stick and the liens and all that kind of stuff.
[01:58:52.960 --> 01:58:53.960]  I love it.
[01:58:53.960 --> 01:58:54.960]  That's a great idea.
[01:58:54.960 --> 01:58:55.960]  That's a great idea.
[01:58:55.960 --> 01:58:56.960]  Okay, great.
[01:58:56.960 --> 01:59:19.960]  I'm like a stepping razor, don't you watch my sides, I'm dangerous, dangerous, I'm like
[01:59:19.960 --> 01:59:35.600]  a stepping razor, don't you watch my sides, I'm dangerous, dangerous, I'm like a stepping
[01:59:35.600 --> 01:59:48.000]  razor, don't you watch my sides, I'm dangerous, dangerous, I'm like a stepping razor, don't
[01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:50.400]  you watch my sides, I'm dangerous, dangerous, I'm like a stepping razor, don't you watch
[01:59:50.400 --> 01:59:52.680]  my sides, I'm dangerous, dangerous, I'm like a stepping razor, don't you watch my
[01:59:52.680 --> 01:59:58.880]  sides, I'm dangerous, dangerous, I'm like a stepping razor, don't you
[01:59:58.880 --> 02:00:00.940]  you