[00:00.000 --> 00:09.680]  The Israeli parliament gave initial approval Wednesday to a bill that would make it a crime
[00:09.680 --> 00:15.840]  to deny Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state punishable by up to a year in prison.
[00:15.840 --> 00:21.020]  The measure was denounced by critics as an assault on free speech, particularly for Israeli
[00:21.020 --> 00:25.280]  Arab citizens, most of whom are of Palestinian origin.
[00:25.280 --> 00:30.480]  The former head of Italy's military intelligence, Nicolo Polari, told a court Wednesday he had
[00:30.480 --> 00:36.560]  no role in the kidnapping of an Egyptian terror suspect, allegedly part of the CIA's extraordinary
[00:36.560 --> 00:38.160]  rendition program.
[00:38.160 --> 00:43.680]  Polari claimed he cannot prove his innocence because the evidence is classified.
[00:43.680 --> 00:50.640]  Shakru Abu Bakr and Ghassam Elashi, founders of the Holy Land Foundation, were each sentenced
[00:50.640 --> 00:56.280]  to 65 years in prison on charges of supporting a terrorist organization.
[00:56.280 --> 01:01.520]  Before 9-11, the Foundation was the largest Muslim charity in the U.S. and funded schools
[01:01.520 --> 01:10.800]  the U.S. alleges were controlled by Hamas.
[01:10.800 --> 01:15.560]  The website Global Research reports some of America's leading billionaires met secretly
[01:15.560 --> 01:21.280]  early in May to consider how their wealth could be used to slow world population growth
[01:21.280 --> 01:24.120]  and speed up improvements in health and education.
[01:24.120 --> 01:30.080]  They included David Rockefeller, an advocate of population control, financiers Warren Buffett
[01:30.080 --> 01:37.160]  and George Soros, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and media moguls Ted Turner and Oprah Winfrey.
[01:37.160 --> 01:42.600]  The gathering, called at the behest of Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, was briefed as security
[01:42.600 --> 01:48.000]  briefings. An unnamed guest said there was a consensus the group would back a strategy
[01:48.000 --> 01:53.640]  in which population growth would be tackled as a potentially disastrous environmental,
[01:53.640 --> 01:59.000]  social and industrial threat, adding they wanted to speak rich to rich without worrying
[01:59.000 --> 02:06.520]  anything they said would end up in the newspapers, painting them as an alternative world government.
[02:06.520 --> 02:10.680]  Earlier this month, a global elite met in secret in Greece for the annual Bilderberg
[02:10.680 --> 02:16.560]  conference. Investigative journalist Daniel Estulin reported 130 of the world's most powerful
[02:16.560 --> 02:21.560]  individuals discussed whether the economic crisis should be a depression that dooms the
[02:21.560 --> 02:27.760]  world to decades of stagnation, decline and poverty, or an intense but shorter one that
[02:27.760 --> 02:34.160]  paves the way for a new economic world order with less sovereignty but more efficiency.
[02:34.160 --> 02:39.480]  Other agenda items included a plan to continue to deceive millions of savers and investors
[02:39.480 --> 02:45.880]  who believe the hype about the supposed upturn in the economy. Estulin said these investors
[02:45.880 --> 03:11.200]  are about to be set up for massive losses and searing financial pain in the months ahead.
[03:45.880 --> 04:12.280]  the world to decades of stagnation, decline and poverty, or an intense but shorter one
[04:12.280 --> 04:30.200]  that paves the way for a new economic world order with less sovereignty but more efficiency.
[04:30.200 --> 04:35.880]  You are listening to the rule of law on rule of law radio network with Randy Kelton and
[04:35.880 --> 04:42.240]  Debra Stevens. We're also here with Eddie Craig and tonight we're going to be speaking with
[04:42.240 --> 04:48.400]  Mr. Michael Badnarek, Libertarian candidate for president in 2004. He was also broadcaster
[04:48.400 --> 04:53.680]  on We the People radio network and GCN radio network and he's been doing a lot of great
[04:53.680 --> 05:01.520]  things lately regarding constitutional congress and teaching his constitution class. So Michael,
[05:01.520 --> 05:03.720]  thank you for joining us tonight.
[05:03.720 --> 05:06.720]  Thank you so much for inviting me. I hope everybody's doing well.
[05:06.720 --> 05:12.480]  Oh, we've been doing just fine. We've been adding more shows and getting more affiliates
[05:12.480 --> 05:18.160]  all throughout the country. So we've been growing the network and things are really
[05:18.160 --> 05:22.200]  picking up speed. So tell me how have you been doing? It's been a while since we've
[05:22.200 --> 05:24.360]  talked to you.
[05:24.360 --> 05:30.500]  I have been busy. I am lighting the fires of liberty. I've got soot and burn marks
[05:30.500 --> 05:31.500]  all over me.
[05:31.500 --> 05:36.560]  That's just wonderful. So tell us how have your constitution classes been going?
[05:36.560 --> 05:43.160]  In 2007, 2008, I could not give my class away. I couldn't find more than two or three people
[05:43.160 --> 05:48.760]  at any one location that wanted to sit still long enough to learn about the constitution.
[05:48.760 --> 05:55.720]  But ever since the fiasco that we refer to as the presidential election and the trillion
[05:55.720 --> 06:02.040]  dollar bailout package last year and the double trillion dollar stimulus package this year,
[06:02.040 --> 06:07.360]  suddenly I've become very, very popular. I've been teaching my constitution classes. I just
[06:07.360 --> 06:15.560]  got back from the Minneapolis St. Paul area and the classes are getting larger. I taught
[06:15.560 --> 06:20.480]  my class to 136 people in Oak Ridge, Tennessee in January.
[06:20.480 --> 06:21.480]  Hallelujah.
[06:21.480 --> 06:29.040]  You know, people call me and say, well, gosh, can you bring your constitution class to my
[06:29.040 --> 06:37.240]  town? And I try to stifle the reaction to go, well, it's about time. But the good news
[06:37.240 --> 06:44.000]  is that people really are starting to pay attention. We had millions of people organized
[06:44.000 --> 06:52.360]  in a thousand cities across the United States on April 15th for the Tea Party rallies. And
[06:52.360 --> 07:00.200]  I know that those Tea Parties were successful because the mainstream media spent four days
[07:00.200 --> 07:04.640]  telling us that nothing happened. Nobody showed up. They were a complete flop. Nobody was
[07:04.640 --> 07:11.200]  there. Well, if nobody was there, the mainstream media wouldn't have mentioned it at all. The
[07:11.200 --> 07:18.040]  fact that they spent four days trying to downplay the Tea Party rallies is an indication that
[07:18.040 --> 07:22.520]  the government is scared. The government realizes that people are waking up.
[07:22.520 --> 07:23.520]  Right.
[07:23.520 --> 07:32.280]  And now we have to capture that energy and that momentum and direct it in a positive
[07:32.280 --> 07:33.280]  direction.
[07:33.280 --> 07:37.080]  Yes, Michael. We used to talk about people being asleep and awake.
[07:37.080 --> 07:38.080]  Like that idea.
[07:38.080 --> 07:41.400]  If you're not awake now, you're in a coma.
[07:41.400 --> 07:47.680]  The other thing that I've been working on, probably for the last three months, is the
[07:47.680 --> 07:54.360]  latest project organized by Bob Schultz. Bob Schultz started We the People Foundation many,
[07:54.360 --> 08:04.720]  many years ago. The primary website is GiveMeLiberty.org. And he is famous for having full-page ads
[08:04.720 --> 08:13.200]  printed in the USA Today. There were six USA Today ads talking about the IRS. Joe Bannister
[08:13.200 --> 08:18.280]  and all these people were featured. And they said, you don't have to pay the taxes. Taxes
[08:18.280 --> 08:25.880]  are voluntary. And that's where people probably will know Bob Schultz's name. He also organized
[08:25.880 --> 08:33.120]  a hunger strike on the front steps of the IRS. And the IRS and the Department of Justice
[08:33.120 --> 08:39.840]  actually agreed to sit down with television cameras present and answer, you know, somewhat
[08:39.840 --> 08:48.920]  over 500 questions. And I was a little suspicious. You know, I wasn't sure why the IRS agreed
[08:48.920 --> 08:49.920]  to that.
[08:49.920 --> 08:50.920]  What's that? Hello?
[08:50.920 --> 08:51.920]  Yes, go ahead. We hear you. We got you.
[08:51.920 --> 08:52.920]  You got me?
[08:52.920 --> 08:53.920]  Yes, yes.
[08:53.920 --> 09:10.280]  Okay. So I was really curious how or why the IRS would agree to answer these questions
[09:10.280 --> 09:22.840]  on television. And that video meeting was scheduled for late September in 2001 and so
[09:22.840 --> 09:28.880]  on September 11, obviously, there was a tragedy in New York City. And as time went on, one
[09:28.880 --> 09:34.280]  of the things that occurred to me is that somebody probably knew in advance that this
[09:34.280 --> 09:39.560]  was going to happen. And they scheduled the IRS meeting after that, knowing full well
[09:39.560 --> 09:46.160]  that it would be postponed. And the IRS has since never, you know, agreed to reschedule
[09:46.160 --> 09:47.160]  those meetings.
[09:47.160 --> 09:53.200]  So the bottom line is that for the last 19 years, we've been sending paperwork to the
[09:53.200 --> 09:57.320]  government, you know, both houses of Congress, the president of the White House and the Supreme
[09:57.320 --> 10:03.080]  Court. And they have flat out ignored, I mean, they haven't even given us the dignity of
[10:03.080 --> 10:09.480]  a response. And this is the same situation that the founding fathers were in back in
[10:09.480 --> 10:19.760]  1774. And then in late 1774, they decided to send people to Philadelphia to come up
[10:19.760 --> 10:26.040]  with a solution. You know, how are we going to deal with the king if the king won't sit
[10:26.040 --> 10:31.840]  down and negotiate with us? And eventually, the Continental Congress came up with a piece
[10:31.840 --> 10:39.600]  of paper called the Declaration of Independence. So being in the same situation, Bob Scholz's
[10:39.600 --> 10:50.080]  organization, WeThePeopleCongress.org is organizing Continental Congress 2009. The plan is to
[10:50.080 --> 10:58.440]  nominate three delegates from each state, plus Washington, D.C., and for 153 people
[10:58.440 --> 11:03.920]  will get together. These are supposed to be the modern founding fathers and mothers, people
[11:03.920 --> 11:09.240]  who are passionate about the Constitution, who understand what the Constitution says,
[11:09.240 --> 11:16.560]  and more importantly, the principles that underlie the Constitution. And our modern
[11:16.560 --> 11:21.360]  Continental Congress will get together to decide what we should do about a government
[11:21.360 --> 11:22.960]  that is out of control.
[11:22.960 --> 11:30.960]  Now, Michael, can you please explain to us what a Continental Congress is? And is this
[11:30.960 --> 11:35.560]  entity defined in the Constitution? Or where did this concept come from?
[11:35.560 --> 11:43.440]  Well, it's not defined in the Constitution because it actually precedes the Constitution.
[11:43.440 --> 11:51.200]  Most people recognize the Declaration of Independence as the founding philosophy. And in the Declaration
[11:51.200 --> 11:56.480]  of Independence, it says that when any government becomes destructive of our rights, we have
[11:56.480 --> 12:04.800]  the right to alter or abolish it. But we've been trying to alter it for, you know, 19
[12:04.800 --> 12:10.120]  years now. And, you know, most people realize that the rallies that we hold pretty much
[12:10.120 --> 12:14.560]  don't do anything. Voting doesn't seem to do anything, especially if you're on electronic
[12:14.560 --> 12:21.840]  voting machines. And, you know, we've had a couple cases in fairly recent history where
[12:21.840 --> 12:26.680]  the President of the United States was expected of doing things that, well, you know, may
[12:26.680 --> 12:33.840]  be illegal and unconstitutional. And in those circumstances, we organized a congressional
[12:33.840 --> 12:39.600]  subcommittee. And the congressional subcommittee will listen to evidence and come down basically
[12:39.600 --> 12:46.480]  with judicial decisions. And it's an impeachment hearing. And we managed to impeach Richard
[12:46.480 --> 12:53.720]  Nixon and Bill Clinton. And this is all part of the, you know, self-corrected process.
[12:53.720 --> 13:01.800]  Well, the question then comes, what if you suspect Congress of violating the Constitution?
[13:01.800 --> 13:10.400]  What if 534 people, because I make an exception for Ron Paul, are violating the Constitution?
[13:10.400 --> 13:15.400]  They know they're violating the Constitution because they signed the Patriot Act, the Military
[13:15.400 --> 13:22.120]  Commissions Act, the Homegrown Terrorist Act. You know, who would you call if you suspect
[13:22.120 --> 13:28.960]  that Congress is violating the Constitution? Well, there's no legislative body higher
[13:28.960 --> 13:36.840]  than Congress. The only entity would be we, the people. We, the people, ordain and establish
[13:36.840 --> 13:45.020]  the Constitution. We invented Congress. And as the Declaration of Independence implies,
[13:45.020 --> 13:51.960]  we can alter or abolish it. So we, the people, are the source of all political power. The
[13:51.960 --> 13:56.600]  government has to get permission from us, not the other way around.
[13:56.600 --> 14:01.600]  Most people say, well, you know, where, where is this Continental Congress going to get
[14:01.600 --> 14:07.720]  the government permission to do this? And I laugh and I ask them where the founding
[14:07.720 --> 14:13.640]  fathers got permission to sit down and write the Declaration of Independence. You know,
[14:13.640 --> 14:18.720]  you don't need permission. You don't need permission to think. You don't need permission
[14:18.720 --> 14:23.960]  to, you know, wish for a better life. And you certainly don't need government permission
[14:23.960 --> 14:30.800]  to exercise your right. I mean, that's a contradiction in terms.
[14:30.800 --> 14:36.480]  And so most people understand that things have gotten worse. This is not the type of
[14:36.480 --> 14:41.760]  United States that they learned about in school, that they, you know, thought they were growing
[14:41.760 --> 14:51.360]  up in. And, you know, the question is, well, how do you, how do you police the police?
[14:51.360 --> 14:56.520]  You know, at a local level, you hire people to wear a uniform and a badge and keep law
[14:56.520 --> 15:05.280]  in order. But what would happen, hypothetically, if the local police were going around and
[15:05.280 --> 15:12.560]  shaking people down for bribes and actually stealing? And, you know, here in the United
[15:12.560 --> 15:22.560]  States, we find that a little bit difficult to accept. But in 50% of the, they have special
[15:22.560 --> 15:31.320]  task force, you know, drug task force groups in almost all the police, you know, organizations
[15:31.320 --> 15:36.120]  in the United States. And, you know, usually about half of them are corrupt. You know,
[15:36.120 --> 15:41.640]  they go and they arrest the drug dealers, you know, and they confiscate the drugs. And
[15:41.640 --> 15:47.200]  if they have 100 pounds of, you know, heroin when they stop the people, you know, maybe
[15:47.200 --> 15:53.480]  50 pounds goes into the evidence locker and the other 50 percent, you know, 50 pounds
[15:53.480 --> 16:02.200]  gets sold. So, I mean, what do you do if the police that you've hired to protect you are
[16:02.200 --> 16:10.040]  the ones that are violating your right? Well, you've got to have some means of self-defense.
[16:10.040 --> 16:17.640]  And so, the Continental Congress is an effort to dramatically change the way things are
[16:17.640 --> 16:27.440]  happening. Now, it's important for people to understand that we are not a con con. Ever
[16:27.440 --> 16:34.880]  since 1970, people have been talking about a constitutional convention. And it comes
[16:34.880 --> 16:39.160]  back every couple of years. They talk about that. I think we're having a conversation
[16:39.160 --> 16:43.320]  about that. Yes. Yeah. We're going to break. Just give us just give us a couple of minutes,
[16:43.320 --> 16:46.840]  Michael. We'll be right back. And to talk about the difference between what you're doing
[16:46.840 --> 16:51.560]  in the constitutional convention. All right. We'll be right back. This is Randy Kelton,
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[18:08.800 --> 18:23.360]  Look what we've got. Who reacts to questions? I wonder what they're hiding. They don't have
[18:23.360 --> 18:34.880]  the answer. Who reacts to questions? Look what we've got. And they don't have the answer.
[18:34.880 --> 18:52.960]  Look what we've got. Who reacts to questions? I wonder what they're hiding. They don't have
[18:52.960 --> 19:18.480]  the answer. Look what we've got. All right, we are back. We asked the questions and they
[19:18.480 --> 19:28.720]  don't have the answers. The whole country. Okay. We are talking about the difference
[19:28.720 --> 19:40.880]  between a Constitutional Convention and the Continental Congress. So please go ahead Michael.
[19:40.880 --> 19:46.860]  Constitutional Convention would want to open up a meeting to modify the Constitution right
[19:46.860 --> 19:55.760]  out of existence. So those of us who are patriots and liberty-minded people have been steadfastly
[19:55.760 --> 20:06.000]  opposed to a Constitutional Convention. It's a con-con. What Bob Schulz's organization
[20:06.000 --> 20:13.560]  is trying to do is defend the Constitution and actually enforce the Constitution. We
[20:13.560 --> 20:20.040]  are a Continental Congress. We are in the spirit of the founding fathers. The idea is
[20:20.040 --> 20:28.120]  to get 150 people together, the brightest minds across the nation, to decide how to
[20:28.120 --> 20:35.040]  enforce it. If you have a sign that says, do not walk on the grass, and you've got a
[20:35.040 --> 20:41.480]  bunch of bad guys walking across the grass, the sign isn't going to stop them. Somebody's
[20:41.480 --> 20:50.000]  going to have to go in and basically get the people off the grass to enforce the rule that
[20:50.000 --> 20:56.520]  the sign is trying to establish. Well, there is one thing that George Bush was correct
[20:56.520 --> 21:02.400]  about and that is that the Constitution is only a piece of paper. It has some wonderful
[21:02.400 --> 21:10.560]  ideas that the Constitution cannot enforce itself. The Constitution limits the power
[21:10.560 --> 21:20.480]  of government. It outlines and defines what Congress is allowed to do. When Congress is
[21:20.480 --> 21:28.520]  not doing that, that Constitution must be protected, must be enforced. The Continental
[21:28.520 --> 21:38.200]  Congress, which admittedly could be abbreviated as a con-con, is there to protect the Constitution
[21:38.200 --> 21:45.560]  rather than to try and change it. We are basically trying to get together to make sure that the
[21:45.560 --> 21:52.880]  people in Congress follow the rules, especially those outlined in Article 1, Section 8 of
[21:52.880 --> 21:53.880]  the Constitution.
[21:53.880 --> 22:01.120]  Well, yes, that's wonderful. I'm glad to hear you explain that because I have heard
[22:01.120 --> 22:08.040]  some people have been confused about just what exactly the difference is. That's great
[22:08.040 --> 22:12.440]  news. So what is the plan at this point?
[22:12.440 --> 22:24.840]  Well, the plan at this point is really still organizational. The primary website is wethepeoplecongress.org
[22:24.840 --> 22:30.280]  and you can go to that website. It has a lot of information. You can download a bunch of
[22:30.280 --> 22:41.840]  stuff and read it. You can also reroute yourself to your state's page. We have 51 pages, 50
[22:41.840 --> 22:47.320]  states plus Washington, D.C. So if you do the pull down window and go to Texas, you
[22:47.320 --> 22:54.240]  will see a photo of my smiling face. I am the Texas State Coordinator for the Continental
[22:54.240 --> 23:02.200]  Congress. And over the last six weeks, I've also been acting as one of two national coordinators
[23:02.200 --> 23:06.800]  helping to get the other state coordinators organized.
[23:06.800 --> 23:16.160]  Here in each state, there is a conference call. Every Tuesday night, 7 p.m. local time,
[23:16.160 --> 23:21.560]  you can join a one-hour conference call to find out more about the Continental Congress.
[23:21.560 --> 23:31.440]  I organize the Texas conference call and it's on talk show. If you go to wethepeoplecongress.org,
[23:31.440 --> 23:37.720]  go to Texas. One of the first little news items there will be the conference call. It
[23:37.720 --> 23:45.480]  gives you the phone number and the conference number that you can use to join in.
[23:45.480 --> 23:50.440]  And so every Tuesday night, we do another one-hour conference call to explain what it is, what
[23:50.440 --> 23:57.960]  we're trying to do. And, you know, all 21 million people in Texas will be invited to
[23:57.960 --> 24:04.560]  vote by paper affidavit, because we don't trust the electronic voting machine, to select
[24:04.560 --> 24:10.640]  three people who will be modern-day founding fathers and mothers. And those people will
[24:10.640 --> 24:17.440]  then be sent to a central location. We're still trying to pick the venue, but that will
[24:17.440 --> 24:24.520]  be between November 9th and November 24th later this year.
[24:24.520 --> 24:36.600]  Excellent. Wonderful news. So are you doing your classes still, your Constitution classes?
[24:36.600 --> 24:44.760]  Well, I am thrilled to report that interest in my Constitution class is skyrocketing.
[24:44.760 --> 24:52.320]  In 2007 and 2008, I couldn't give my class away. I could not find two or three people
[24:52.320 --> 24:57.920]  in the same location willing to sit still long enough to take it. I suspect that a little
[24:57.920 --> 25:04.400]  bit of that had to do with Ron Paul's presidential campaign. Everybody was devoting their money
[25:04.400 --> 25:08.480]  and their time to trying to get Ron Paul elected president.
[25:08.480 --> 25:16.000]  Well, now that Ron's campaign is over, and we've had this phony election and a trillion
[25:16.000 --> 25:22.600]  dollar bailout and a double trillion dollar stimulus package this year, suddenly there
[25:22.600 --> 25:27.800]  are more and more people interested in the Constitution. They realize that something
[25:27.800 --> 25:33.080]  has gone wrong. And my phone is pretty much ringing off the hook. About every two or three
[25:33.080 --> 25:40.240]  days, I get another person calling me, asking me to bring my Constitution class to their
[25:40.240 --> 25:50.560]  town. I just got home from Minneapolis, St. Paul, where I taught 32 people this last Saturday.
[25:50.560 --> 25:55.360]  Next Saturday, I'll be in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Then I come back here to the Dallas area.
[25:55.360 --> 26:02.600]  I'll be teaching my class in Grapevine on June 13th. Then I go to North Carolina Saturday
[26:02.600 --> 26:11.640]  in Raleigh, Sunday in Charlotte. And I go from North Carolina down to Orlando. And I'll
[26:11.640 --> 26:16.920]  be teaching my Constitution class in Orlando on the 27th of June.
[26:16.920 --> 26:22.640]  Then I come back to Dallas for the Tea Party rally here in Dallas on the 4th of July. And
[26:22.640 --> 26:29.280]  then I go to Vegas for the Freedom Fest. And then I go to Anchorage, Alaska to teach my
[26:29.280 --> 26:31.200]  class. It'll be my first trip to Alaska.
[26:31.200 --> 26:36.000]  Wow, that's wonderful, Michael. That's excellent.
[26:36.000 --> 26:41.520]  So the momentum is building. More and more people are watching my Constitution class
[26:41.520 --> 26:49.200]  off the Internet. There are seven one-hour video segments on many websites. They had
[26:49.200 --> 26:57.120]  to break it down into, I think it was like 42 or 48 10-minute segments to put it on YouTube.
[26:57.120 --> 27:04.000]  But my Constitution class is available for free on YouTube and Google. All you have to
[27:04.000 --> 27:13.000]  do is just do a search for Bagnarok Constitution. And I'm sure that you will find it.
[27:13.000 --> 27:16.000]  That's excellent. Good job.
[27:16.000 --> 27:21.760]  Well, I want Thomas Jefferson to be proud of me when I see him.
[27:21.760 --> 27:22.760]  I know, exactly.
[27:22.760 --> 27:23.760]  I agree.
[27:23.760 --> 27:29.320]  Exactly. Well, you are. You're doing excellent work. You always have. And I've always loved
[27:29.320 --> 27:34.040]  your class. Randy, what do you think? Have you taken his class, Michael Bagnarok's Constitution
[27:34.040 --> 27:35.040]  class?
[27:35.040 --> 27:39.560]  I took it after we did our seminar.
[27:39.560 --> 27:46.560]  Oh, that's great. Yeah, I had already taken it. So I didn't go that day. But I recommend
[27:46.560 --> 27:53.680]  to everyone to get the book, Good to Be King. You know, I was, it reminded me, Sunday night,
[27:53.680 --> 27:59.680]  we did an interview with Gary Johnson, who does his show, Live and Let Live, was doing
[27:59.680 --> 28:03.800]  a show on cable access. Cable access is going through some changes and they're shutting
[28:03.800 --> 28:08.840]  down for a while. And actually, Gary Johnson is going to be a broadcaster on this network.
[28:08.840 --> 28:13.640]  He's going to be on every Sunday from 8 to 10 p.m. doing his show, Live and Let Live.
[28:13.640 --> 28:19.000]  That'll be starting June 14th. And when we were on his TV show the other night, it reminded
[28:19.000 --> 28:23.880]  me of you, Michael Bagnarok. You know, we are all kings and queens. It is good to be
[28:23.880 --> 28:24.880]  king.
[28:24.880 --> 28:29.840]  And we've got a bunch of people in Minneapolis now that understand that.
[28:29.840 --> 28:33.800]  That's great. Okay, listen, we're going to break. We'll be right back. This is the rule
[28:33.800 --> 28:41.920]  of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens with Michael Bagnarok.
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[28:45.920 --> 28:50.760]  to buy. With the value of the dollar, risks of inflation, geopolitical uncertainties and
[28:50.760 --> 28:55.720]  instability in rural financial systems, I see gold going up much higher. Hi, I'm Tim
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[29:52.560 --> 30:18.400]  Okay!
[30:18.400 --> 30:23.640]  Julie, man, she well bully. She says she only want helicopter, one and three.
[30:23.640 --> 30:26.300]  Because you, man, need to drink the money.
[30:26.300 --> 30:29.060]  Drink the money in US currency.
[30:29.060 --> 30:31.820]  When you come to the city, give it to Julie.
[30:31.820 --> 30:34.580]  Julie says she love to always see.
[30:34.580 --> 30:37.260]  Says she only want to say US currency.
[30:37.260 --> 30:40.060]  But now the economy getting badly.
[30:40.060 --> 30:42.860]  While she losing all autonomy.
[30:42.860 --> 30:46.020]  Julie says she only want yen around city cause...
[30:46.020 --> 30:51.460]  Julie, man, she well bully. She says she only want US currency.
[30:51.460 --> 30:56.700]  Julie, man, she well bully. She says she only want helicopter, one and three.
[30:56.700 --> 30:59.300]  One and three, man, need to drink the money.
[30:59.300 --> 31:02.060]  So that the man work for the women, you see.
[31:02.060 --> 31:04.780]  So that the man work, you see, for the bank, you see.
[31:04.780 --> 31:07.580]  And when you come to drink in all the money.
[31:07.580 --> 31:10.340]  You better call helicopter, one and three.
[31:10.340 --> 31:13.220]  And when you call him, man, he get the money.
[31:13.220 --> 31:17.660]  And he drink it quickly. Get the order from the presidency.
[31:17.660 --> 31:20.340]  Julie says, Lord, she well bully.
[31:20.340 --> 31:23.140]  She want Bonanki to give she money.
[31:23.140 --> 31:26.100]  When Bonanki drink it, she give it to she.
[31:26.100 --> 31:28.980]  She promise him she go see the king.
[31:28.980 --> 31:31.380]  Bonanki only see the king.
[31:31.380 --> 31:34.580]  He not see the queen. He not see nothing.
[31:34.580 --> 31:37.220]  She say her old name so happy.
[31:37.220 --> 31:40.260]  Bonanki spend all US currency because...
[31:40.260 --> 31:43.340]  Julie, man, she well bully.
[31:43.340 --> 31:46.020]  Say, little girl, man, she not bully.
[31:46.020 --> 31:48.700]  Julie, man, she well bully.
[31:48.700 --> 31:50.180]  She say she only want...
[31:50.180 --> 31:52.900]  All right. Julie is well bully.
[31:52.900 --> 31:55.860]  She only wants helicopter or Bonanki.
[31:55.860 --> 32:00.140]  All right. Little humor there from Three Shoes Posse.
[32:00.140 --> 32:03.300]  I don't know if there's really a woman named Julie.
[32:03.300 --> 32:09.100]  It's just basically another song that we wrote trying to expose the fraud of the Federal Reserve.
[32:09.100 --> 32:13.620]  All right. So we've got Michael Ben-Erik on the line here.
[32:13.620 --> 32:17.260]  And I'm sure most of y'all already know who he is.
[32:17.260 --> 32:23.060]  He was a broadcaster with We the People and GCN and teaches his constitution class.
[32:23.060 --> 32:27.540]  He ran for president on the libertarian ticket in 04.
[32:27.540 --> 32:32.380]  And callers, if you'd like to call in and speak to Michael, ask some questions.
[32:32.380 --> 32:37.780]  We've...you're welcome to call in 512-646-1984.
[32:37.780 --> 32:44.300]  And I have a question, Michael, was discussing with someone a couple of weeks ago
[32:44.300 --> 32:51.060]  concerning the issue of impeachment of the president and indictment and prosecution of the president.
[32:51.060 --> 32:57.260]  And it came up in the conversation that this other person was under the impression
[32:57.260 --> 33:03.860]  that you could not prosecute the president or have him or try to get him indicted
[33:03.860 --> 33:08.940]  or even have an indictment be legal unless he was impeached first.
[33:08.940 --> 33:11.180]  And I said, well, that just doesn't make any sense.
[33:11.180 --> 33:17.060]  I mean, if that were the case, then that would mean that the president's above the law
[33:17.060 --> 33:21.820]  because he could only be touched by Congress and not the courts.
[33:21.820 --> 33:24.180]  And I said, no, that just cannot be the way it is.
[33:24.180 --> 33:29.100]  I can't believe that our founders would put something like that in the constitution.
[33:29.100 --> 33:32.900]  The only thing that I've ever read in the constitution concerning, you know,
[33:32.900 --> 33:37.460]  the ordering of how any kind of situation with a president like that would be handled
[33:37.460 --> 33:42.700]  is that he cannot be removed from office until he's impeached by Congress.
[33:42.700 --> 33:45.540]  But I've never seen anything in the constitution that says anything about that.
[33:45.540 --> 33:49.220]  He can't be prosecuted or indicted until he's impeached.
[33:49.220 --> 33:52.620]  Can you please give us your take on that, Michael?
[33:52.620 --> 33:59.020]  Yeah, impeachment and indictment are two different things.
[33:59.020 --> 34:06.340]  Impeachment is a constitutional process where the president of the United States
[34:06.340 --> 34:13.340]  is removed from the White House, you know, and I'm exaggerating here and joking, of course.
[34:13.340 --> 34:17.900]  But let's say that the president decides to, you know, wear a plaid jacket
[34:17.900 --> 34:24.220]  during his State of the Union address and Congress decides this is just really a fashion faux pas.
[34:24.220 --> 34:30.540]  You know, wearing a plaid jacket is not against the law, but Congress could,
[34:30.540 --> 34:34.260]  for whatever reason, vote to impeach the president.
[34:34.260 --> 34:39.220]  So impeaching the president is basically just there to remove him from office.
[34:39.220 --> 34:44.900]  Now, I mean, obviously, we would expect that to be for some wrongdoing,
[34:44.900 --> 34:48.220]  but that doesn't necessarily have to be.
[34:48.220 --> 34:54.420]  Indicting someone is to, you know, accuse them of breaking the law.
[34:54.420 --> 34:58.380]  And you are correct, the president of the United States is not above the law.
[34:58.380 --> 35:05.260]  And I don't think there's anything in the constitution that specifically addresses it,
[35:05.260 --> 35:11.140]  but I think that we've established a policy where if you indict the president,
[35:11.140 --> 35:16.940]  you can't, like, drag him off to jail right now because he's being, you know,
[35:16.940 --> 35:18.940]  he's busy being the president.
[35:18.940 --> 35:23.700]  And, you know, they'd wait politely until he finishes his oath of office, you know,
[35:23.700 --> 35:28.700]  his term of office, and then, you know, as he leaves the White House,
[35:28.700 --> 35:31.740]  you slap the havencuffs on him and take him off.
[35:31.740 --> 35:32.820]  Well, I don't know, Michael.
[35:32.820 --> 35:35.700]  I mean, what if he commits murder or something, or treason?
[35:35.700 --> 35:38.700]  I mean, it seems like, you know, any of the rest of us,
[35:38.700 --> 35:40.740]  they wouldn't hesitate to put us in the slammer.
[35:40.740 --> 35:45.220]  I mean, I would think that Congress would impeach him anyway in a case like that.
[35:45.220 --> 35:49.940]  Well, one would hope, you know, one would hope that would happen.
[35:49.940 --> 35:56.780]  And if you're correct, if, you know, we have the president of the United States,
[35:56.780 --> 36:01.780]  you know, pulling the trigger on a political opponent, we'd get it on videotape,
[36:01.780 --> 36:06.580]  I'm pretty sure that, you know, the president would be removed from the White House,
[36:06.580 --> 36:09.180]  you know, the very, you know, very same day.
[36:09.180 --> 36:12.460]  I would think the U.S. Marshals would come and haul him away.
[36:12.460 --> 36:17.780]  Right. But, I mean, legal, I mean, it's hard to come up with, you know,
[36:17.780 --> 36:21.820]  hypothetical situations that explain and define the process,
[36:21.820 --> 36:26.620]  but the impeachment process and the indictment process
[36:26.620 --> 36:29.660]  are two separate and independent things.
[36:29.660 --> 36:32.740]  You can be indicted and not impeached.
[36:32.740 --> 36:36.540]  You can be impeached and not indicted.
[36:36.540 --> 36:40.540]  Although, depending on, you know, what the problem was,
[36:40.540 --> 36:45.300]  it's very likely that a person would be impeached and indicted.
[36:45.300 --> 36:47.140]  Yeah. All right.
[36:47.140 --> 36:48.340]  Well, that's kind of what I thought.
[36:48.340 --> 36:50.100]  Thank you for clarifying that.
[36:50.100 --> 36:51.820]  And we do have a caller on the line.
[36:51.820 --> 36:55.300]  We've got Jerry from Oregon.
[36:55.300 --> 36:56.420]  Jerry, thanks for calling in.
[36:56.420 --> 36:58.900]  What's on your mind tonight?
[36:58.900 --> 37:01.380]  Hey, guys, I just wanted to share something with you
[37:01.380 --> 37:06.300]  that happened to me three hours after I talked to you Friday night.
[37:06.300 --> 37:09.100]  Do you remember how I was asking about the formula
[37:09.100 --> 37:14.060]  as far as what to do with when you encounter a police officer?
[37:14.060 --> 37:16.060]  Yes. Yeah.
[37:16.060 --> 37:19.540]  Well, I was walking to the store about three hours after that,
[37:19.540 --> 37:21.740]  and I was on my way back,
[37:21.740 --> 37:26.140]  and I saw this homeless guy just laying in this,
[37:26.140 --> 37:31.420]  well, under this storefront, and, well, you know, I felt bad,
[37:31.420 --> 37:37.820]  and I was almost in my house when I grabbed a piece of cardboard
[37:37.820 --> 37:39.300]  long enough for him to lay on it,
[37:39.300 --> 37:41.980]  and I walked it back over there to him and woke him up
[37:41.980 --> 37:43.980]  and told him to slide it under him
[37:43.980 --> 37:45.900]  because I figured it would probably be cold,
[37:45.900 --> 37:50.660]  and I didn't want him to get hypothermia or anything off the concrete.
[37:50.660 --> 37:54.460]  Well, I'm walking back to my house after doing that,
[37:54.460 --> 37:57.900]  and then the next thing I know, this patrol car pulls up,
[37:57.900 --> 38:02.060]  and he's right, he's like 10 feet from me,
[38:02.060 --> 38:04.180]  and he jumps out of the car,
[38:04.180 --> 38:06.940]  and he asks me what I'm doing with this piece of plywood,
[38:06.940 --> 38:08.700]  and, guys, you know what?
[38:08.700 --> 38:11.860]  I wasn't even thinking about him, anything.
[38:11.860 --> 38:17.020]  I was just thinking, gee, did I do enough, you know?
[38:17.020 --> 38:21.300]  And I ask him if there's something I can help him with
[38:21.300 --> 38:25.780]  because it's not registering to me why he's stopping me.
[38:25.780 --> 38:27.300]  I'm thinking, what, is there some law
[38:27.300 --> 38:29.780]  that you can't walk out at night or something?
[38:29.780 --> 38:36.220]  I don't know, and he asked me what I'm doing with this piece of plywood.
[38:36.220 --> 38:39.900]  Finally, I realize he's talking about the cardboard,
[38:39.900 --> 38:41.900]  and I begin to approach him,
[38:41.900 --> 38:45.460]  and he tells me, of course, back up, back up,
[38:45.460 --> 38:46.860]  and so I did.
[38:46.860 --> 38:50.420]  I abided by his instructions,
[38:50.420 --> 38:53.020]  and then I started to get a little agitated, you know?
[38:53.020 --> 38:55.700]  I'm like, you know what? I'm not doing anything,
[38:55.700 --> 38:59.900]  and I'm more than willing to comply with anything you want,
[38:59.900 --> 39:05.620]  but I'm not willing to, like, just, I don't know,
[39:05.620 --> 39:09.420]  be bossed around like some idiot,
[39:09.420 --> 39:14.620]  and, you know, I started to get a little agitated at that point,
[39:14.620 --> 39:17.380]  and I explained to him what I was doing,
[39:17.380 --> 39:20.020]  and he just looked at me like I was crazy,
[39:20.020 --> 39:24.100]  and then I told him, hey, look, you know what?
[39:24.100 --> 39:26.780]  I don't know why you're busting my you-know-what,
[39:26.780 --> 39:31.780]  but I don't have any problems, and I was just on my way home,
[39:31.780 --> 39:36.260]  and he got offended that I accused him of that,
[39:36.260 --> 39:42.620]  and the next thing he did was he invaded my personal space.
[39:42.620 --> 39:44.580]  Do you know what I mean?
[39:44.580 --> 39:47.700]  You know, where you just, how you naturally want to put out
[39:47.700 --> 39:51.020]  your arm to stop somebody from coming into your space?
[39:51.020 --> 39:54.300]  I showed God that I didn't do that, okay?
[39:54.300 --> 39:56.820]  Because at that point, I was kind of like,
[39:56.820 --> 39:58.700]  I really don't care what happens,
[39:58.700 --> 40:02.860]  but if he manhandles me, it's on,
[40:02.860 --> 40:05.180]  because I haven't done anything,
[40:05.180 --> 40:08.180]  and granted, I know it's not going to be good for me,
[40:08.180 --> 40:10.180]  but I'm not going to allow that.
[40:10.180 --> 40:13.940]  I don't care, and especially over something like that,
[40:13.940 --> 40:18.980]  and, you know, of course, he kicks in my face
[40:18.980 --> 40:22.460]  and stares at me and says, you know,
[40:22.460 --> 40:23.900]  we've had some problems over there,
[40:23.900 --> 40:26.220]  and you have a nice night, you know,
[40:26.220 --> 40:28.740]  kind of like that testosterone test.
[40:28.740 --> 40:31.900]  You know what we call that in the Jamaican culture?
[40:31.900 --> 40:35.420]  It's called chucking, okay?
[40:35.420 --> 40:38.340]  Yeah, it's called, people who do that are called chuckies.
[40:38.340 --> 40:40.900]  Okay, they're like bucking up against you.
[40:40.900 --> 40:43.580]  It's like this little challenge getting up in your face,
[40:43.580 --> 40:45.860]  and, you know, because they're trying to start a fight,
[40:45.860 --> 40:47.660]  they're trying to challenge you,
[40:47.660 --> 40:52.820]  and it's all to just establish some stupid pecking order
[40:52.820 --> 40:54.860]  in their own minds of who's on top.
[40:54.860 --> 40:56.820]  It's ridiculous.
[40:56.820 --> 40:58.020]  Oh, absolutely.
[40:58.020 --> 41:03.620]  So I saw that escalation of them towards,
[41:03.620 --> 41:05.460]  you know, just the general public,
[41:05.460 --> 41:09.260]  and I finally just got educated enough
[41:09.260 --> 41:12.420]  after I had that confrontation,
[41:12.420 --> 41:14.540]  and I called and talked to his duty officer.
[41:14.540 --> 41:16.300]  I'm like, you know what?
[41:16.300 --> 41:18.060]  I'm not putting up with that.
[41:18.060 --> 41:21.380]  So, you know, I talked to his duty officer
[41:21.380 --> 41:25.100]  and shared with him my opinion on the matter,
[41:25.100 --> 41:29.220]  and I don't know whether the officer was new or whether,
[41:29.220 --> 41:33.420]  but, you know, there's that escalation.
[41:33.420 --> 41:36.420]  I shared with him that had I put my arm out,
[41:36.420 --> 41:39.420]  I would have been accused of assault and...
[41:39.420 --> 41:41.100]  Oh, yeah, they would have taken you down,
[41:41.100 --> 41:44.380]  because, see, listen, the police are trained to escalate.
[41:44.380 --> 41:49.540]  They are trained to bait you into doing something like that
[41:49.540 --> 41:51.260]  so that they can take you down.
[41:51.260 --> 41:52.740]  Absolutely.
[41:52.740 --> 41:54.860]  And so it's good for you to...
[41:54.860 --> 41:57.260]  It's good that you restrain yourself,
[41:57.260 --> 41:59.260]  because, really, it's not worth it.
[41:59.260 --> 42:02.820]  You know, like we were talking about on Friday night,
[42:02.820 --> 42:05.620]  you don't want to confront them.
[42:05.620 --> 42:07.900]  You don't want to get in a fight with a cop on the street,
[42:07.900 --> 42:09.300]  because it's not worth it.
[42:09.300 --> 42:10.260]  I know what you're saying,
[42:10.260 --> 42:12.100]  that you're not going to put up with that at all,
[42:12.100 --> 42:13.380]  but, really, you're just the one
[42:13.380 --> 42:15.820]  that's going to end up getting hurt more,
[42:15.820 --> 42:18.420]  if, you know, it's like fight them later.
[42:18.420 --> 42:19.820]  But, listen, we're going to break.
[42:19.820 --> 42:21.140]  Did you have a question for Michael,
[42:21.140 --> 42:24.300]  or you just called to relay the story?
[42:24.300 --> 42:26.220]  Yeah, I just called to relay that story,
[42:26.220 --> 42:28.900]  and I'll listen to more of what Michael's got to say,
[42:28.900 --> 42:31.580]  but I just... OK, excellent.
[42:31.580 --> 42:33.300]  OK, well, listen, we're about to go to break.
[42:33.300 --> 42:34.180]  We're about to go to break.
[42:34.180 --> 42:36.460]  We'll talk about that on the other side.
[42:36.460 --> 42:37.860]  We'll be right back.
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[44:32.860 --> 44:35.060]  Somebody calls the police.
[44:35.060 --> 44:38.020]  All it takes, perfect.
[44:38.020 --> 44:41.260]  Perfect bumper music right after that story.
[44:41.260 --> 44:43.180]  All it takes is a misunderstanding
[44:43.180 --> 44:44.260]  and the police show up,
[44:44.260 --> 44:46.740]  even if nobody calls in this case.
[44:47.780 --> 44:51.500]  We've got Jerry from Oregon on the line,
[44:51.500 --> 44:56.500]  and I was wondering if Jerry even told the cop
[44:56.620 --> 44:58.540]  that it wasn't even a piece of card,
[44:58.540 --> 44:59.860]  I mean it wasn't a piece of plywood,
[44:59.860 --> 45:01.660]  it was a piece of cardboard,
[45:01.660 --> 45:04.780]  but yeah, it's good that you didn't react
[45:04.780 --> 45:06.420]  because they are Chuckies.
[45:06.420 --> 45:09.340]  They do try to bait you on purpose
[45:09.340 --> 45:11.540]  so that they can have a reason to take you down to jail
[45:11.540 --> 45:12.700]  and they'll just beat you up
[45:12.700 --> 45:15.860]  and smash your face into the wall
[45:15.860 --> 45:18.020]  or in the case of the pastor,
[45:18.020 --> 45:20.620]  they broke the glass of his window of his car
[45:20.620 --> 45:23.820]  and ground his face into the broken glass
[45:23.820 --> 45:25.300]  and the guy had to have stitches
[45:25.300 --> 45:28.740]  and it's like you just really can't say anything
[45:28.740 --> 45:33.180]  to these people cross-eyed or else they will,
[45:33.180 --> 45:34.980]  they'll make you hurt really bad
[45:34.980 --> 45:36.700]  and it's just not worth it.
[45:36.700 --> 45:39.140]  It's like it's better to go after them in other ways,
[45:39.140 --> 45:42.420]  but Michael, what are your comments on this?
[45:43.980 --> 45:48.580]  It takes a certain personality type to do that job
[45:48.580 --> 45:52.900]  and they are now looking for people who will escalate it
[45:52.900 --> 45:55.220]  and you're right, it's really difficult
[45:55.220 --> 45:57.140]  to interact with them at all
[45:57.140 --> 46:00.580]  because they can interpret anything that you say
[46:00.580 --> 46:03.540]  as an attack on them.
[46:03.540 --> 46:07.940]  There was a woman who was stopped for a traffic stop
[46:07.940 --> 46:10.780]  and she had the unmitigated gall
[46:10.780 --> 46:13.740]  to ask the police officer a few questions
[46:13.740 --> 46:16.420]  and they arrested her for assault
[46:17.300 --> 46:18.460]  and so she went to court,
[46:18.460 --> 46:20.780]  she was explaining that she had never raised her voice,
[46:20.780 --> 46:23.820]  she'd never took a swing at the officer,
[46:23.820 --> 46:27.340]  she didn't know how this could possibly be addressed
[46:27.340 --> 46:31.020]  as assault and the judge assured her that it was
[46:31.020 --> 46:33.020]  and then she was questioning the judge
[46:33.020 --> 46:35.740]  and she says, well, what if the police officer
[46:35.740 --> 46:37.820]  is raping me?
[46:37.820 --> 46:40.580]  And the judge's response was,
[46:40.580 --> 46:43.340]  wait until he is finished and then file a complaint.
[46:43.340 --> 46:46.380]  Oh, give me a break, I don't think so.
[46:46.380 --> 46:50.260]  No, no, because in that sense,
[46:50.260 --> 46:52.620]  and that's already been adjudicated too
[46:52.620 --> 46:55.140]  because if he's taking an action
[46:55.140 --> 46:59.780]  that is outside of the authority of his commission
[46:59.780 --> 47:04.780]  as a public servant, then that means he is not protected
[47:05.500 --> 47:10.500]  by all the parameters of his position as a public servant
[47:12.700 --> 47:16.300]  and he can be sued personally for that as well,
[47:16.300 --> 47:17.140]  so that's ridiculous.
[47:17.140 --> 47:19.780]  Outside the law, he is an outlaw
[47:19.780 --> 47:23.300]  and if I'm nearby, he's probably going to the hospital.
[47:23.300 --> 47:25.060]  Yeah, or worse.
[47:25.060 --> 47:27.580]  Yeah, well, he's not protected by the law,
[47:27.580 --> 47:30.660]  he's just protected by that Mickey Mouse in the black robe.
[47:30.660 --> 47:33.260]  Give me a break, wait till he's done.
[47:33.260 --> 47:35.460]  I can't believe a judge had the gall
[47:35.460 --> 47:37.020]  to say something like that
[47:37.020 --> 47:39.820]  and there was a woman here in Travis County,
[47:39.820 --> 47:42.340]  a 72-year-old woman who had the gall
[47:42.340 --> 47:44.500]  to ask a police officer a few questions
[47:44.500 --> 47:46.660]  when she got pulled over and they tased her,
[47:46.660 --> 47:50.620]  a 72-year-old woman here in Travis County.
[47:50.620 --> 47:54.620]  Well, you know those 72-year-old women can be pretty vicious.
[47:54.620 --> 47:58.140]  They can raise an eyebrow and look at you
[47:58.140 --> 48:00.020]  with that cold stare.
[48:00.020 --> 48:02.580]  We can't have that running around now, can we?
[48:02.580 --> 48:03.420]  Yeah.
[48:03.420 --> 48:05.340]  Especially if they're a Jewish mother.
[48:05.340 --> 48:08.220]  Well, we had a police officer call into our show
[48:08.220 --> 48:09.220]  a couple of weeks ago.
[48:09.220 --> 48:11.220]  You may want to listen to it at some point,
[48:11.220 --> 48:14.500]  if you have time, the call lasted for about a half an hour
[48:14.500 --> 48:19.420]  and this cop here in Austin told us on the air
[48:19.420 --> 48:23.100]  on the air, don't make us mad.
[48:23.100 --> 48:24.940]  The law doesn't matter.
[48:24.940 --> 48:28.140]  And if we don't like you, if you make us mad,
[48:28.140 --> 48:29.940]  we're just gonna arrest you and beat you up
[48:29.940 --> 48:32.380]  and we'll make up a charge on the way to jail.
[48:32.380 --> 48:36.180]  That's what he told us and everybody on the air.
[48:38.340 --> 48:39.180]  Don't doubt it.
[48:39.180 --> 48:41.460]  I wanted to listen to it to know that's true.
[48:41.460 --> 48:42.540]  Yeah.
[48:43.540 --> 48:45.460]  He thought it was okay.
[48:45.460 --> 48:48.180]  When I asked him how many policemen,
[48:48.180 --> 48:50.780]  what percentage of the police,
[48:50.780 --> 48:53.780]  he told us that if you made them mad,
[48:53.780 --> 48:55.660]  they'd just arrest you and take you to jail
[48:55.660 --> 48:57.140]  and make up something on the way to jail.
[48:57.140 --> 49:00.060]  I said, well, about what percentage of the police
[49:00.060 --> 49:03.100]  do you believe are like that?
[49:03.100 --> 49:08.100]  And I expected him to say about three or 5%, 50%.
[49:08.780 --> 49:11.620]  Yeah, I think he was downplaying it too
[49:12.540 --> 49:14.180]  when he answered that question.
[49:15.020 --> 49:17.060]  The only reason I wanted to share that with you
[49:17.060 --> 49:19.820]  is so you would, that was a prime example
[49:19.820 --> 49:22.740]  of something absolutely innocent.
[49:22.740 --> 49:24.740]  And it couldn't be any more innocent
[49:24.740 --> 49:26.220]  than something like that.
[49:26.220 --> 49:31.220]  And then to have that unknown just fly up in your face
[49:31.420 --> 49:35.020]  without having any expectation of anything
[49:35.020 --> 49:36.940]  other than going home.
[49:36.940 --> 49:38.340]  Maybe he just thought you were gonna make
[49:38.340 --> 49:40.580]  a really large political protest sign
[49:40.580 --> 49:42.420]  and he just couldn't have that in his neighborhood.
[49:42.420 --> 49:43.900]  Yeah, did you ever even tell him
[49:43.900 --> 49:45.500]  that it was cardboard and not plywood
[49:45.500 --> 49:47.020]  and why would that even matter?
[49:48.140 --> 49:48.980]  Yeah, I did.
[49:48.980 --> 49:51.060]  I explained the whole thing to him
[49:51.060 --> 49:53.380]  and then he was just looking at me like,
[49:54.380 --> 49:58.620]  you know, like I wasn't supposed to help out a homeless guy.
[49:58.620 --> 50:01.260]  And I'm like, you know, I'm not,
[50:01.260 --> 50:02.500]  I don't know, at that point,
[50:02.500 --> 50:04.300]  it just kind of just made me angry
[50:04.300 --> 50:06.340]  and I didn't care if there were 10 of them
[50:06.340 --> 50:11.020]  because I was willing to give as much as I got
[50:11.020 --> 50:12.140]  if it went to that.
[50:12.140 --> 50:13.780]  Because you know what guys,
[50:13.780 --> 50:15.740]  I think there's a point to where
[50:15.740 --> 50:18.300]  it just really doesn't matter what the odds are.
[50:18.300 --> 50:20.820]  It's like you have a piece inside of you
[50:20.820 --> 50:23.820]  and there was no fear in me whatsoever.
[50:23.820 --> 50:25.660]  And I should be prepared.
[50:25.660 --> 50:27.220]  Well see, the thing that strikes me
[50:27.220 --> 50:29.860]  is so really odd about all of this
[50:29.860 --> 50:33.340]  is that, you know, the police are supposed to be here
[50:33.340 --> 50:38.340]  to protect us and investigate possible dangerous behavior,
[50:39.660 --> 50:41.220]  criminal behavior.
[50:41.220 --> 50:44.580]  I don't see why a guy walking down the street
[50:44.580 --> 50:46.380]  with a piece of cardboard
[50:46.380 --> 50:49.260]  or even if it was a piece of plywood,
[50:49.260 --> 50:52.580]  how does that constitute as dangerous
[50:52.580 --> 50:55.700]  or possibly criminal behavior?
[50:55.700 --> 50:57.820]  I mean, I think the guy was just curious.
[50:57.820 --> 51:01.780]  It just struck him as an odd thing to see
[51:01.780 --> 51:03.660]  and he just wanted to know what was going on
[51:03.660 --> 51:06.260]  and you know, if that's the case,
[51:06.260 --> 51:08.300]  then he's abusing his capacity
[51:08.300 --> 51:09.820]  as a law enforcement official.
[51:09.820 --> 51:11.860]  It's none of his damn business
[51:11.860 --> 51:13.980]  what you're doing with that piece of plywood
[51:13.980 --> 51:15.300]  or cardboard, okay?
[51:15.300 --> 51:16.540]  He didn't have the right to know.
[51:16.540 --> 51:19.980]  As long as you're not looking like
[51:19.980 --> 51:22.060]  you're harming someone with it,
[51:22.060 --> 51:23.740]  I mean, it's not like you have,
[51:23.740 --> 51:24.820]  you're walking down the street
[51:24.820 --> 51:27.660]  with a big old gun in your hand or a knife,
[51:27.660 --> 51:29.860]  which I mean, we should be able to walk down the street
[51:29.860 --> 51:34.860]  with, you know, guns on our holsters, okay?
[51:35.180 --> 51:36.740]  I mean, if you were pointing at somebody,
[51:36.740 --> 51:38.180]  that'd be a different story.
[51:38.180 --> 51:41.780]  But the point is, it wasn't even a freaking weapon, okay?
[51:41.780 --> 51:45.220]  So it's just totally abuse of their authority
[51:45.220 --> 51:47.660]  to even bother to ask you
[51:47.660 --> 51:49.700]  what you're doing with that thing, okay?
[51:49.700 --> 51:51.340]  We gotta stop this.
[51:51.340 --> 51:53.780]  I would have gotten an immediate ride downtown
[51:53.780 --> 51:55.420]  because my response would have been,
[51:55.420 --> 51:57.820]  I'm painting a free donut sign, come by at six.
[51:57.820 --> 52:02.820]  I just talked to, I was at a,
[52:04.900 --> 52:07.900]  I just pulled in a little thrift store
[52:07.900 --> 52:10.020]  and these two cop cars were out front
[52:10.020 --> 52:11.460]  and they were talking to this guy
[52:11.460 --> 52:13.260]  and I walked by one of them and I said,
[52:13.260 --> 52:14.380]  what are you guys doing here?
[52:14.380 --> 52:15.780]  This is not a donut shop.
[52:15.780 --> 52:17.220]  Oh, Randy.
[52:17.220 --> 52:20.620]  He said, I know we're lost.
[52:20.620 --> 52:21.940]  I know we're lost.
[52:21.940 --> 52:23.140]  Well, I just wanna, you know,
[52:23.140 --> 52:26.100]  a lot of people listening may not realize that,
[52:26.100 --> 52:27.700]  I don't know, for me, it's like,
[52:27.700 --> 52:29.540]  that's why when I ask a question,
[52:29.540 --> 52:33.260]  I kinda need to know every little step you gotta take.
[52:33.260 --> 52:34.820]  What's the mile marker?
[52:34.820 --> 52:36.260]  How do I know when I'm there?
[52:36.260 --> 52:38.420]  Because if I go past that,
[52:38.420 --> 52:40.220]  then I'm gonna make a mistake
[52:40.220 --> 52:41.900]  and I'm gonna end up paying for it
[52:41.900 --> 52:45.100]  and if it's my fault, well, then it's my fault.
[52:45.100 --> 52:47.180]  But if it's not my fault,
[52:47.180 --> 52:49.100]  because I listened, I paid attention
[52:49.100 --> 52:52.620]  and I followed the mile marker and I stopped.
[52:52.620 --> 52:55.060]  So, you know, there's probably a lot of people
[52:55.060 --> 52:58.100]  out there listening and I never expected that
[52:58.100 --> 52:59.420]  when I made that phone call.
[52:59.420 --> 53:03.180]  I was just asking because, to ask.
[53:03.180 --> 53:07.500]  My suggestion is think, Bubba,
[53:07.500 --> 53:09.660]  you're not gonna believe how much grief
[53:09.660 --> 53:11.620]  I'm gonna cause you in the morning.
[53:12.660 --> 53:15.780]  You need to think that after you've been stopped,
[53:15.780 --> 53:17.900]  somebody's jerked you around like this,
[53:17.900 --> 53:22.700]  call at least 10 people who supervise this police officer.
[53:23.940 --> 53:26.660]  His sergeant, his lieutenant, chief of police,
[53:26.660 --> 53:29.180]  mayor, few council members,
[53:29.180 --> 53:32.500]  write to everybody you can think of.
[53:32.500 --> 53:36.940]  I started talking to them like they're unruly children.
[53:36.940 --> 53:38.060]  What do you mean?
[53:38.060 --> 53:40.980]  Why aren't you, you know, finding something better to do?
[53:40.980 --> 53:42.380]  Go on, get out of my face.
[53:43.340 --> 53:46.900]  I tried that and wound up with my face in a stone wall.
[53:46.900 --> 53:48.260]  Well, see, the thing that struck me
[53:48.260 --> 53:50.140]  about that whole incident that you described, Jerry,
[53:50.140 --> 53:52.460]  also is the fact that at first he was like,
[53:52.460 --> 53:54.260]  back off, back off, get back,
[53:54.260 --> 53:57.060]  but then he goes and gets in your face.
[53:57.060 --> 53:59.900]  Right, that's the escalation point.
[53:59.900 --> 54:01.900]  You know that recognizing me
[54:01.900 --> 54:03.620]  or not knowing whether I'm a threat,
[54:03.620 --> 54:06.780]  okay, I can bear with that, okay, I'll stand back.
[54:06.780 --> 54:08.140]  I'm okay with that.
[54:08.140 --> 54:09.780]  But when it's all said and done,
[54:09.780 --> 54:13.460]  then to get up in my face, stare at me,
[54:13.460 --> 54:16.820]  and plex with me like.
[54:16.820 --> 54:18.860]  That's just a power trip.
[54:18.860 --> 54:20.660]  All right, well listen, listen, Jerry,
[54:20.660 --> 54:21.500]  we need to let you go
[54:21.500 --> 54:23.740]  because we've only got like three minutes left
[54:23.740 --> 54:26.300]  of this segment and then Michael's gonna have to go,
[54:26.300 --> 54:28.260]  but thank you for calling in.
[54:28.260 --> 54:30.980]  Michael, we've got about three minutes left,
[54:30.980 --> 54:33.580]  so would you like to give us some closing comments?
[54:34.700 --> 54:38.780]  I wanted to talk to you about that rainbow gathering
[54:38.780 --> 54:40.700]  that you go to every spring.
[54:40.700 --> 54:42.380]  Yep, I'm going.
[54:42.380 --> 54:44.540]  I wonder if they'd be interested
[54:44.540 --> 54:47.140]  in having me teach my constitution class out there.
[54:47.140 --> 54:48.140]  Absolutely.
[54:49.860 --> 54:52.580]  We can talk about it off the air, that would be great.
[54:52.580 --> 54:53.420]  That'd be great.
[54:53.420 --> 54:54.580]  Don't forget to gas mask.
[54:54.580 --> 54:56.860]  It's in New Mexico and we're going.
[54:56.860 --> 54:57.700]  We're going this year.
[54:57.700 --> 54:59.500]  I don't know if Randy's going, but I'm certainly going.
[54:59.500 --> 55:00.660]  Jerry and I are going.
[55:00.660 --> 55:02.500]  So yeah, I think it'd be a great idea.
[55:02.500 --> 55:04.020]  You wanna go?
[55:04.020 --> 55:05.340]  I was thinking about it.
[55:05.340 --> 55:08.540]  Okay, well maybe you can ride with us.
[55:08.540 --> 55:11.020]  Anybody that wants to find out more about my book
[55:11.020 --> 55:12.460]  or my constitution classes
[55:12.460 --> 55:17.300]  can go to constitutionpreservation.org.
[55:17.300 --> 55:22.060]  Constitutionpreservation.org, absolutely.
[55:22.060 --> 55:25.380]  And when is the Continental Congress here in Texas?
[55:25.380 --> 55:28.180]  Do you guys have regular meetings or what's up with that?
[55:28.180 --> 55:30.540]  We have, we're organizing.
[55:30.540 --> 55:35.540]  You can go to the website, wethepeoplecongress.org,
[55:35.900 --> 55:38.900]  follow the link to Texas and give me a call
[55:38.900 --> 55:42.220]  or send me an email and I'll make sure
[55:42.220 --> 55:44.460]  that you can help volunteer your time.
[55:44.460 --> 55:47.940]  Okay, is the Congress, the Continental Congress
[55:47.940 --> 55:48.780]  scheduled yet?
[55:48.780 --> 55:52.260]  The Congress is scheduled for November 9th
[55:52.260 --> 55:54.300]  through November 24th.
[55:54.300 --> 55:55.700]  Of this year?
[55:55.700 --> 55:59.740]  Of this year, we have not picked our 150 delegates yet,
[55:59.740 --> 56:02.140]  but that's a process we're going through.
[56:02.140 --> 56:03.900]  We want to work very little time.
[56:03.900 --> 56:08.780]  And where is the Congress gonna be?
[56:08.780 --> 56:10.020]  We haven't decided that.
[56:10.020 --> 56:11.620]  We've got about five locations.
[56:11.620 --> 56:13.180]  We're trying to narrow it down.
[56:13.180 --> 56:14.420]  And it has to be narrowed down
[56:14.420 --> 56:17.460]  to like 150 delegates, you said?
[56:17.460 --> 56:20.140]  That's right, three delegates from each state.
[56:20.140 --> 56:23.620]  Because, you know, Congress is 435.
[56:23.620 --> 56:26.700]  Look how long they talk and debate about things.
[56:26.700 --> 56:30.500]  If you had too many people, you wouldn't get anything done.
[56:30.500 --> 56:31.820]  Right, right.
[56:31.820 --> 56:35.300]  So we're limiting this to three delegates from each state.
[56:35.300 --> 56:36.140]  Wow.
[56:36.140 --> 56:37.940]  I mean, you can certainly have additional advisors there,
[56:37.940 --> 56:42.180]  but we've got to get people together, organize and talk.
[56:42.180 --> 56:45.580]  Even if everybody talks for five minutes.
[56:45.580 --> 56:47.180]  It's still gonna take a while.
[56:47.180 --> 56:49.340]  Yeah, multiply that by 150.
[56:49.340 --> 56:52.740]  And you've got some, you know, several days of-
[56:52.740 --> 56:57.340]  Will it be open to observers?
[56:57.340 --> 57:00.260]  We are gonna live stream video it.
[57:00.260 --> 57:02.780]  So everybody here across the nation and around the world
[57:02.780 --> 57:05.420]  will be able to watch proceedings as they happen.
[57:06.580 --> 57:07.540]  That's great.
[57:07.540 --> 57:08.380]  That's perfect.
[57:08.380 --> 57:09.220]  I love it.
[57:09.220 --> 57:11.340]  Transparency, wonderful.
[57:11.340 --> 57:13.220]  Well, Michael, we want to thank you again
[57:13.220 --> 57:15.140]  for joining us for this past hour.
[57:15.140 --> 57:18.340]  Michael Badnerich, one of my best friends in the whole world.
[57:18.340 --> 57:21.620]  So glad to know you and be working with you.
[57:21.620 --> 57:23.660]  So I will definitely be in touch
[57:23.660 --> 57:24.940]  about this Continental Congress
[57:24.940 --> 57:28.220]  and maybe you can ride with us to the rainbow.
[57:28.220 --> 57:29.140]  That sounds great.
[57:29.140 --> 57:31.020]  Okay, we will be back.
[57:32.180 --> 57:33.180]  After the top of the hour,
[57:33.180 --> 57:34.980]  we've got Mike from Texas on the line.
[57:34.980 --> 57:36.460]  This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton
[57:36.460 --> 57:38.260]  and Deborah Stevens with Michael Badnerich.
[57:38.260 --> 57:39.260]  We'll be right back.
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[59:20.420 --> 59:32.260]  Neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of my yard.
[59:32.260 --> 59:35.900]  Neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of my yard.
[59:35.900 --> 59:37.940]  Okay, this is the Rule of Law,
[59:37.940 --> 59:43.660]  Randy Kelton and Debra Stevens song for Randy out there.
[59:43.660 --> 59:44.260]  Randy in Texas.
[59:44.260 --> 59:45.220]  We didn't write it for him,
[59:45.220 --> 59:50.900]  but we felt inspired to get that song mixed
[59:50.900 --> 59:53.220]  after his story about his dog.
[59:53.220 --> 59:55.780]  But, you know, we always gotta poke fun at people.
[59:55.780 --> 59:59.180]  All right, we have a caller on the line.
[59:59.180 --> 01:00:02.580]  We've got Mike from Texas.
[01:00:02.580 --> 01:00:03.900]  And then Randy's gonna talk about
[01:00:03.900 --> 01:00:07.180]  some impending criminal charges against him.
[01:00:07.180 --> 01:00:08.780]  Okay, Mike, what's on your mind?
[01:00:09.820 --> 01:00:11.100]  Hey Debra, hey Randy.
[01:00:12.660 --> 01:00:14.540]  I called in on Friday.
[01:00:14.540 --> 01:00:19.540]  I got some tickets and I went to an arraignment today.
[01:00:24.420 --> 01:00:29.420]  And this is like a really strange traffic court.
[01:00:33.220 --> 01:00:36.540]  It's like a suburb of Houston.
[01:00:37.460 --> 01:00:39.420]  And I've never been there before.
[01:00:39.420 --> 01:00:43.900]  And it's in a real tiny little courthouse.
[01:00:43.900 --> 01:00:48.420]  And right when you walk in the door,
[01:00:48.420 --> 01:00:50.540]  they make you fill out this paper.
[01:00:51.860 --> 01:00:55.380]  And they ask you if you're gonna plead guilty, not guilty,
[01:00:55.380 --> 01:00:58.820]  no contest or, you know, you have to check one of those off
[01:00:58.820 --> 01:01:02.460]  and then you have to write down your information,
[01:01:02.460 --> 01:01:05.140]  you know, who you are, what your address is
[01:01:05.140 --> 01:01:07.500]  and the ticket number and all that.
[01:01:07.500 --> 01:01:12.500]  And then they had the judge, the prosecutor and the clerk
[01:01:13.140 --> 01:01:16.980]  and they're all crammed in real close to each other.
[01:01:18.020 --> 01:01:23.020]  And they called me up there and it was the prosecutor
[01:01:24.220 --> 01:01:27.420]  that, and she's sitting right next to the judge.
[01:01:29.420 --> 01:01:32.660]  And she asked me, you know,
[01:01:32.660 --> 01:01:34.740]  how I was gonna flee and everything.
[01:01:34.740 --> 01:01:38.900]  I remembered Randy saying something about,
[01:01:40.340 --> 01:01:44.980]  don't talk to the prosecutor, but I wasn't very comfortable.
[01:01:44.980 --> 01:01:46.940]  I felt really uncomfortable in there.
[01:01:48.140 --> 01:01:50.420]  The part of town that it's in,
[01:01:50.420 --> 01:01:54.140]  this suburb that it's in, really high scale.
[01:01:56.820 --> 01:01:59.820]  Lots of expensive houses, expensive cars everywhere,
[01:01:59.820 --> 01:02:03.380]  shopping malls and all kinds of stuff.
[01:02:03.380 --> 01:02:06.300]  But when you get in a courtroom, it's all minorities
[01:02:06.300 --> 01:02:09.260]  and low income people who are in the court.
[01:02:09.260 --> 01:02:12.860]  So it seemed to me like that's,
[01:02:12.860 --> 01:02:16.420]  they're targeting poor people and minorities.
[01:02:16.420 --> 01:02:18.740]  They don't want, I guess, riff raff
[01:02:18.740 --> 01:02:21.420]  going through their neighborhood or something.
[01:02:21.420 --> 01:02:24.100]  That's kind of the impression that I got.
[01:02:24.100 --> 01:02:26.340]  I didn't see one suit in the whole place
[01:02:26.340 --> 01:02:29.700]  other than the judge.
[01:02:29.700 --> 01:02:33.940]  And anyhow, I went ahead and pled not guilty
[01:02:33.940 --> 01:02:36.100]  because I'm not really prepared
[01:02:36.100 --> 01:02:39.580]  and I wasn't really comfortable.
[01:02:41.500 --> 01:02:42.540]  I wasn't really comfortable.
[01:02:42.540 --> 01:02:44.460]  I didn't feel really centered.
[01:02:44.460 --> 01:02:47.620]  I wasn't really prepared to fight this.
[01:02:48.740 --> 01:02:52.700]  I didn't have all the motions and complaints
[01:02:52.700 --> 01:02:54.620]  and things that I wanted to file.
[01:02:54.620 --> 01:02:56.700]  So I figured, well, if I pled not guilty,
[01:02:56.700 --> 01:03:00.540]  it would give me some time to try to get that together.
[01:03:00.540 --> 01:03:05.540]  And I just wanted, I've got like about six weeks
[01:03:06.300 --> 01:03:08.980]  before I've got to, before I need to appear.
[01:03:09.900 --> 01:03:14.900]  And I want, what we talked about on Friday was
[01:03:15.540 --> 01:03:20.460]  me filing a criminal complaint against the officer
[01:03:20.460 --> 01:03:23.540]  because my ticket does say honor before.
[01:03:23.540 --> 01:03:28.540]  And, but I don't have a, I don't have a complaint
[01:03:29.220 --> 01:03:30.460]  or an example of a complaint.
[01:03:30.460 --> 01:03:32.460]  I've never done anything like that before.
[01:03:32.460 --> 01:03:33.660]  Send me an email.
[01:03:34.620 --> 01:03:37.380]  Or me, either one of us can send you examples.
[01:03:39.340 --> 01:03:43.140]  Okay, I don't have your email, Eddie.
[01:03:43.140 --> 01:03:48.140]  I did send one to you, Randy, on say either Saturday
[01:03:49.420 --> 01:03:50.660]  or Sunday, I sent you an email.
[01:03:50.660 --> 01:03:53.580]  I think I sent you a set of motions back
[01:03:53.580 --> 01:03:55.860]  that need to be adjusted to your case.
[01:03:55.860 --> 01:04:00.020]  Aren't there, yeah, Randy, aren't there example documents
[01:04:00.020 --> 01:04:01.500]  on the website?
[01:04:01.500 --> 01:04:04.660]  No, not this particular, not the traffic stuff.
[01:04:04.660 --> 01:04:05.500]  I haven't posted it.
[01:04:05.500 --> 01:04:06.860]  Oh, okay, okay.
[01:04:06.860 --> 01:04:07.980]  I need a rewrite of it.
[01:04:10.060 --> 01:04:11.900]  I don't, I didn't get them, Randy.
[01:04:11.900 --> 01:04:14.500]  I mean, I looked at my email and I didn't get them.
[01:04:14.500 --> 01:04:16.860]  Send me another email and I'll respond to you.
[01:04:16.860 --> 01:04:18.540]  Yeah, and Eddie, if you want to send me
[01:04:18.540 --> 01:04:21.060]  some sample documents, I'll post them on the website
[01:04:21.060 --> 01:04:23.700]  so that people don't have to email us
[01:04:23.700 --> 01:04:25.060]  and then we have to email them.
[01:04:25.060 --> 01:04:26.300]  Because everyone's busy.
[01:04:26.300 --> 01:04:29.340]  We are incredibly busy and we get hundreds of emails a day
[01:04:29.340 --> 01:04:31.780]  and both me and Randy tell people,
[01:04:31.780 --> 01:04:34.340]  oh, email us, email us and we'll send you sample documents
[01:04:34.340 --> 01:04:35.740]  and then sometimes it just doesn't happen.
[01:04:35.740 --> 01:04:38.700]  So we'll be posting those on the internet,
[01:04:38.700 --> 01:04:40.500]  on the website so people can just download them.
[01:04:40.500 --> 01:04:42.780]  So send me your stuff, too, Eddie.
[01:04:42.780 --> 01:04:45.740]  All right, now remember, guys, when we post these samples,
[01:04:45.740 --> 01:04:47.780]  they're gonna be filled out like they're the real thing.
[01:04:47.780 --> 01:04:50.780]  Don't use a fill-in-the-blank complaint.
[01:04:50.780 --> 01:04:54.620]  You need to write it in the same format as what we give you
[01:04:54.620 --> 01:04:57.860]  but you need to write the details that apply to you.
[01:04:57.860 --> 01:04:59.260]  Don't use a fill-in-the-blank
[01:04:59.260 --> 01:05:01.580]  because it's gonna wind up messing you up.
[01:05:01.580 --> 01:05:04.420]  And we can print that out on a regular printer
[01:05:04.420 --> 01:05:06.020]  and that's fine, right?
[01:05:06.020 --> 01:05:06.860]  Oh, yeah.
[01:05:06.860 --> 01:05:08.900]  Yeah, but Eddie's saying that you're gonna need
[01:05:08.900 --> 01:05:10.460]  to modify the document anyway.
[01:05:10.460 --> 01:05:11.300]  You can look on...
[01:05:11.300 --> 01:05:13.300]  Oh, yeah, yeah, I do that.
[01:05:13.300 --> 01:05:16.940]  I knew, you know, you don't want a bunch of underlying stuff
[01:05:16.940 --> 01:05:20.780]  and blanks and you want it to look sharp.
[01:05:20.780 --> 01:05:25.780]  You wanna look on my web on jurisimprudence.com.
[01:05:25.900 --> 01:05:28.260]  There you'll find a blank section
[01:05:28.260 --> 01:05:30.620]  and you'll find blank complaints in there.
[01:05:31.500 --> 01:05:33.300]  Okay, now I got a question for you.
[01:05:34.300 --> 01:05:37.780]  I believe the thing that you told me to do first
[01:05:37.780 --> 01:05:42.020]  was to file a criminal complaint against the officer.
[01:05:42.020 --> 01:05:43.020]  Yes.
[01:05:43.020 --> 01:05:44.820]  Can I file that pretty much any time?
[01:05:44.820 --> 01:05:46.620]  Can I just go up to the courthouse and say,
[01:05:46.620 --> 01:05:49.620]  hey, I wanna see the magistrate and file that complaint?
[01:05:49.620 --> 01:05:50.900]  Yes.
[01:05:50.900 --> 01:05:55.060]  Okay, and then if he doesn't accept it,
[01:05:55.060 --> 01:05:57.460]  if the judge says, oh, I'm not doing that,
[01:05:57.460 --> 01:06:00.420]  then I wanna file a complaint against the judge,
[01:06:00.420 --> 01:06:02.500]  but who do I file that with?
[01:06:02.500 --> 01:06:03.660]  The next higher court.
[01:06:03.660 --> 01:06:04.500]  Yeah.
[01:06:05.740 --> 01:06:09.060]  Okay, so if he refuses to do that,
[01:06:09.060 --> 01:06:11.380]  I immediately go to the next higher court and say,
[01:06:11.380 --> 01:06:14.260]  hey, I tried to file this complaint, the judge...
[01:06:14.260 --> 01:06:17.620]  Yeah, is it a municipal court that you're appearing in?
[01:06:17.620 --> 01:06:18.940]  Yes, it is.
[01:06:18.940 --> 01:06:21.340]  Okay, then you'd go to the county court,
[01:06:21.340 --> 01:06:22.900]  which is the next higher court.
[01:06:24.220 --> 01:06:25.900]  Okay, go to the Harris County,
[01:06:25.900 --> 01:06:28.300]  then that's what I'm gonna go, that's what I'll do.
[01:06:29.580 --> 01:06:33.420]  Technically speaking, you can file it with any judge or JP,
[01:06:33.420 --> 01:06:35.580]  as Randy's put it, anywhere.
[01:06:35.580 --> 01:06:38.420]  You don't have to do it in any particular county.
[01:06:38.420 --> 01:06:39.260]  Okay.
[01:06:39.260 --> 01:06:42.700]  Once I file the complaint or complaints,
[01:06:43.740 --> 01:06:47.020]  do I then file a motion to dismiss, or?
[01:06:47.980 --> 01:06:49.820]  Well, you file a motion, you can do that,
[01:06:49.820 --> 01:06:51.700]  or you can do one to disqualify the cop,
[01:06:51.700 --> 01:06:53.500]  because he has pending criminal charges,
[01:06:53.500 --> 01:06:58.340]  or you can ask for a motion suspending further proceedings
[01:06:58.340 --> 01:07:01.100]  until the criminal charges against the cop are reconciled.
[01:07:02.100 --> 01:07:04.380]  Ah, so, okay, cool.
[01:07:04.380 --> 01:07:06.260]  So I'm sure there's an order
[01:07:06.260 --> 01:07:08.260]  in which I would wanna do that, right?
[01:07:08.260 --> 01:07:13.260]  Yes, we need to do a section here soon on due process,
[01:07:13.980 --> 01:07:17.980]  on filing complaints and the strategy and how to do that.
[01:07:18.780 --> 01:07:20.780]  I read the codes that you told me to read,
[01:07:20.780 --> 01:07:24.780]  Randy and Eddie, I read those codes
[01:07:24.780 --> 01:07:26.060]  and I was just blown away.
[01:07:26.060 --> 01:07:28.060]  I was like, it's all right there.
[01:07:28.060 --> 01:07:32.060]  It's all in the same spot, you know, it's like, wow,
[01:07:32.060 --> 01:07:33.460]  that's pretty powerful.
[01:07:34.460 --> 01:07:36.780]  Be fun when you start doing that,
[01:07:36.780 --> 01:07:39.380]  be fun when you start dropping it on them.
[01:07:39.380 --> 01:07:42.580]  It's a lot more fun when you're the one on the attack.
[01:07:43.820 --> 01:07:45.780]  Well, you know, Randy,
[01:07:48.540 --> 01:07:51.620]  when I first got there, I was really uncomfortable,
[01:07:51.620 --> 01:07:55.060]  you know, I was like, wow, it's spooky going in,
[01:07:55.060 --> 01:07:59.540]  it's just, it's not the kind of courtroom
[01:07:59.540 --> 01:08:02.860]  I'm accustomed to going into, and even then,
[01:08:02.860 --> 01:08:06.780]  you know, even if it was a familiar courtroom to me,
[01:08:06.780 --> 01:08:08.820]  it's still kind of intimidating and,
[01:08:11.620 --> 01:08:16.620]  but I just looked around at all the people in the courtroom
[01:08:16.620 --> 01:08:19.620]  and then when you walk outside the courthouse
[01:08:19.620 --> 01:08:22.940]  and you look at all these huge houses out there,
[01:08:22.940 --> 01:08:26.260]  all these fancy cars and shopping malls and stuff,
[01:08:26.260 --> 01:08:29.260]  and you go, there wasn't one suit in this whole place.
[01:08:29.260 --> 01:08:32.540]  They're just picking on people who don't have any money.
[01:08:32.540 --> 01:08:34.300]  Yeah, and they're sending them to a place
[01:08:34.300 --> 01:08:37.140]  where they'll be intimidated by their surroundings.
[01:08:37.140 --> 01:08:40.220]  Yeah, oh man, also, the bailiff in there,
[01:08:41.460 --> 01:08:42.780]  people won't let you in the courtroom
[01:08:42.780 --> 01:08:45.740]  until you fill out one of those papers, right?
[01:08:45.740 --> 01:08:48.020]  I wouldn't have gotten a courtroom.
[01:08:48.020 --> 01:08:48.860]  Yep.
[01:08:48.860 --> 01:08:50.500]  Fill out one of what papers?
[01:08:50.500 --> 01:08:52.500]  Those little forms he was talking about earlier.
[01:08:52.500 --> 01:08:54.620]  I'd have just said, look, are you the judge?
[01:08:54.620 --> 01:08:55.500]  Are you the court?
[01:08:55.500 --> 01:08:58.060]  If you're not, I don't have to enter a plea with you.
[01:08:58.060 --> 01:09:00.820]  Now your options are, let me in to see the judge
[01:09:00.820 --> 01:09:03.380]  as I was given instructions to do,
[01:09:03.380 --> 01:09:05.300]  or you can just mark down that I was here,
[01:09:05.300 --> 01:09:08.380]  but I am gone, and it's your fault.
[01:09:08.380 --> 01:09:09.220]  Yeah.
[01:09:10.340 --> 01:09:14.620]  Well, I was a little too intimidated to do that this time,
[01:09:14.620 --> 01:09:19.340]  but I got more and more angry.
[01:09:19.340 --> 01:09:21.140]  The more and more I looked around
[01:09:21.140 --> 01:09:24.620]  and saw what they were doing, the more angry I got.
[01:09:24.620 --> 01:09:27.060]  And it's really weird.
[01:09:27.060 --> 01:09:30.940]  This is like one of the weirdest courthouses
[01:09:30.940 --> 01:09:31.980]  I've ever been to.
[01:09:33.260 --> 01:09:38.260]  One thing it will do, as you, when you start after them,
[01:09:38.380 --> 01:09:41.340]  and you see how their demeanor changes.
[01:09:41.340 --> 01:09:42.180]  Yeah.
[01:09:42.180 --> 01:09:43.300]  This will get easier,
[01:09:43.300 --> 01:09:46.500]  and each time you mess with them, it gets easier.
[01:09:46.500 --> 01:09:47.340]  And when you find out-
[01:09:47.340 --> 01:09:48.940]  See, that's kind of what I thought.
[01:09:48.940 --> 01:09:50.340]  That's kind of what I thought too.
[01:09:50.340 --> 01:09:53.460]  I'm still kind of nervous, because I haven't really,
[01:09:53.460 --> 01:09:57.180]  I don't have any experience with this yet,
[01:09:57.180 --> 01:09:59.940]  but I really, I'm really pretty anxious to get,
[01:10:01.420 --> 01:10:03.460]  you know, to start doing these things.
[01:10:03.460 --> 01:10:08.460]  And I definitely see the need, especially in this court.
[01:10:08.580 --> 01:10:10.300]  It's terrible.
[01:10:10.300 --> 01:10:13.260]  The best way to hammer them is with paperwork.
[01:10:14.140 --> 01:10:14.980]  That's what I figured too.
[01:10:14.980 --> 01:10:16.500]  Yeah, then you're not in front of them,
[01:10:16.500 --> 01:10:18.540]  they can't deal with you.
[01:10:18.540 --> 01:10:19.380]  Yeah.
[01:10:19.380 --> 01:10:21.220]  And they can't pull their little song and dance
[01:10:21.220 --> 01:10:25.180]  and all that crapola they do, and you'll find
[01:10:25.180 --> 01:10:26.380]  it's a lot of fun.
[01:10:26.380 --> 01:10:29.340]  It's my form of entertainment.
[01:10:29.340 --> 01:10:33.180]  Yeah, I kind of, I think it would have been
[01:10:33.180 --> 01:10:36.500]  a lot of fun to be in there, and rather than being
[01:10:36.500 --> 01:10:41.100]  intimidated, to be asking them questions
[01:10:41.100 --> 01:10:44.100]  and asking them, well, why are you doing stuff this way?
[01:10:44.100 --> 01:10:46.700]  It's goofy, that's not the way it's supposed to go.
[01:10:47.700 --> 01:10:50.700]  Yes, and just as a point of interest,
[01:10:50.700 --> 01:10:53.260]  I was just at the Travis County Courthouse
[01:10:53.260 --> 01:10:58.260]  last Tuesday week, and the prosecutor wouldn't talk to me.
[01:11:01.140 --> 01:11:03.580]  I said, well, gee, Willikers, why won't you talk to me?
[01:11:03.580 --> 01:11:05.140]  Well, we're not allowed to.
[01:11:06.140 --> 01:11:07.900]  That's because you're Randy Dalton, huh?
[01:11:07.900 --> 01:11:10.940]  No, they do this as policy.
[01:11:10.940 --> 01:11:14.780]  I said, is there a statute forbidding you to talk to me?
[01:11:14.780 --> 01:11:19.780]  And the prosecutor said, no, it's an ethical violation.
[01:11:20.700 --> 01:11:22.100]  Oh, well, that's nice.
[01:11:22.100 --> 01:11:24.620]  Ethical violation, I thought you guys just...
[01:11:24.620 --> 01:11:26.660]  Boy, there's a lot of ethics over there, aren't there?
[01:11:26.660 --> 01:11:28.940]  Yeah, I thought you guys were just running a scam
[01:11:28.940 --> 01:11:31.340]  to force everybody to hire an attorney.
[01:11:31.340 --> 01:11:34.340]  I read the canons of judicial ethics
[01:11:34.340 --> 01:11:37.860]  and the bar association standards,
[01:11:37.860 --> 01:11:39.460]  and I haven't seen that in there anywhere.
[01:11:39.460 --> 01:11:40.860]  You mind telling me where that's at?
[01:11:40.860 --> 01:11:42.140]  Oh, I can't talk to you.
[01:11:42.140 --> 01:11:47.140]  Boy, that's wonderful when they tell you
[01:11:50.140 --> 01:11:52.300]  all the wonderful ethics that they have.
[01:11:52.300 --> 01:11:54.060]  Yeah, I would like to see some.
[01:11:54.060 --> 01:11:54.980]  They tell me about them.
[01:11:54.980 --> 01:11:56.620]  I just haven't seen them lately.
[01:11:58.020 --> 01:11:59.180]  Oh, I know it.
[01:11:59.180 --> 01:12:00.540]  They leave them in their other suit
[01:12:00.540 --> 01:12:02.100]  every time they come to court.
[01:12:04.140 --> 01:12:04.980]  I guess...
[01:12:07.180 --> 01:12:11.820]  Randy, how is it that the prosecutor
[01:12:11.820 --> 01:12:16.300]  can be the one to accept a plea rather than the judge?
[01:12:16.300 --> 01:12:17.820]  That's what I want to know.
[01:12:17.820 --> 01:12:20.340]  And I didn't address that yet,
[01:12:20.340 --> 01:12:22.900]  but that was what I was thinking of addressing.
[01:12:22.900 --> 01:12:26.900]  And the other fact is you can definitely argue
[01:12:26.900 --> 01:12:28.980]  bias in the court when they're all three
[01:12:28.980 --> 01:12:30.900]  sitting on the same side of the bench.
[01:12:30.900 --> 01:12:32.380]  Absolutely.
[01:12:32.380 --> 01:12:35.060]  And the prosecutor asking you for a plea
[01:12:35.060 --> 01:12:38.220]  is impersonating a judicial officer.
[01:12:38.220 --> 01:12:41.300]  Yeah, see, that's kind of what I thought.
[01:12:41.300 --> 01:12:46.300]  But, you know, initially,
[01:12:48.900 --> 01:12:51.460]  what I figured, this is the kind of response
[01:12:51.460 --> 01:12:52.420]  that I would expect.
[01:12:52.420 --> 01:12:54.340]  I didn't really push the issue,
[01:12:54.340 --> 01:12:58.580]  but the kind of response I would expect is,
[01:12:58.580 --> 01:13:02.060]  oh, well, the prosecutor's going to assign the date
[01:13:03.540 --> 01:13:05.500]  that you're going to come in.
[01:13:05.500 --> 01:13:08.380]  So it's just more efficient that way.
[01:13:08.380 --> 01:13:12.060]  If we just have you enter the plea with the prosecutor
[01:13:12.060 --> 01:13:14.100]  as opposed to the magistrate.
[01:13:15.980 --> 01:13:16.820]  Well, that's true.
[01:13:16.820 --> 01:13:17.900]  Yeah, it's really slick.
[01:13:17.900 --> 01:13:20.020]  Oh, boy, isn't that sweet.
[01:13:20.020 --> 01:13:21.980]  Isn't that cute?
[01:13:21.980 --> 01:13:24.220]  Yeah, that's real cute.
[01:13:24.220 --> 01:13:26.300]  And since that's a violation of due process,
[01:13:26.300 --> 01:13:28.420]  you don't mind if I go, uh-uh.
[01:13:28.420 --> 01:13:31.500]  He should also get a bar grievance.
[01:13:31.500 --> 01:13:34.140]  Yeah, I like to hear that.
[01:13:34.140 --> 01:13:39.140]  And since he is not a county or district attorney,
[01:13:39.620 --> 01:13:42.580]  he's not authorized to prosecute state law,
[01:13:42.580 --> 01:13:44.340]  so he should get a bar grievance
[01:13:44.340 --> 01:13:48.220]  in impersonating an attorney for that.
[01:13:48.220 --> 01:13:49.540]  Oh, well, actually, that would be
[01:13:49.540 --> 01:13:51.340]  impersonating a public official, Randy,
[01:13:51.340 --> 01:13:54.020]  because they're elected and a city attorney's not.
[01:13:54.020 --> 01:13:56.620]  Yeah, I just couldn't help saying
[01:13:56.620 --> 01:13:58.820]  impersonating an attorney.
[01:13:58.820 --> 01:13:59.900]  Yeah, well, that too.
[01:14:01.620 --> 01:14:03.620]  That's really low, Randy.
[01:14:03.620 --> 01:14:05.380]  Yeah, now do remember one thing.
[01:14:05.380 --> 01:14:08.460]  If you can file one charge against a public servant
[01:14:08.460 --> 01:14:10.860]  of a violation of any Texas law,
[01:14:10.860 --> 01:14:15.180]  then you can also turn around and file 39.03,
[01:14:15.180 --> 01:14:17.020]  official oppression against them.
[01:14:17.860 --> 01:14:18.700]  Wow, okay.
[01:14:18.700 --> 01:14:22.500]  And once you do that, tack on 39.02,
[01:14:22.500 --> 01:14:24.380]  abuse of official capacity,
[01:14:24.380 --> 01:14:26.460]  because that can open to a felony
[01:14:26.460 --> 01:14:29.340]  if you can get the amount above $1,500.
[01:14:29.340 --> 01:14:31.780]  So should I file that at the same time
[01:14:31.780 --> 01:14:33.780]  I filed a complaint against the officer?
[01:14:33.780 --> 01:14:36.100]  Absolutely. How would you?
[01:14:36.100 --> 01:14:40.740]  And you should file against the judge
[01:14:42.820 --> 01:14:46.260]  simulating a legal process
[01:14:46.260 --> 01:14:48.380]  for summoning you to the court
[01:14:49.300 --> 01:14:53.300]  so that the prosecutor could impersonate the judge.
[01:14:53.300 --> 01:14:54.220]  Yeah.
[01:14:54.220 --> 01:14:55.860]  Yeah, that's not allowed reasons
[01:14:55.860 --> 01:14:57.700]  for summoning you to court.
[01:14:57.700 --> 01:14:59.660]  Where's that list at, Randy?
[01:14:59.660 --> 01:15:02.180]  The 28.01 Code of Criminal Procedure.
[01:15:02.180 --> 01:15:04.020]  Yeah, that's part of the code that you,
[01:15:04.020 --> 01:15:05.380]  yeah, that's the part of the code
[01:15:05.380 --> 01:15:07.340]  that you gave me on Friday.
[01:15:07.340 --> 01:15:09.260]  Very interesting stuff.
[01:15:09.260 --> 01:15:13.620]  Oh, and a municipal court or JP court
[01:15:13.620 --> 01:15:15.820]  cannot hold an arraignment.
[01:15:17.460 --> 01:15:19.380]  Only a county court can do that.
[01:15:19.380 --> 01:15:20.660]  All right, listen, we're going to break.
[01:15:20.660 --> 01:15:22.580]  Do you wanna hang on the line
[01:15:22.580 --> 01:15:24.820]  till we get back on the other side?
[01:15:24.820 --> 01:15:25.900]  Absolutely.
[01:15:25.900 --> 01:15:27.020]  Okay, great, excellent.
[01:15:27.020 --> 01:15:30.820]  Okay, we will be right back, this is the rule of law,
[01:15:30.820 --> 01:15:33.980]  Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[01:15:33.980 --> 01:15:35.020]  We're here with Eddie Craig.
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[01:16:51.420 --> 01:16:56.420]  Ain't gonna blame me, mm, don't fool me.
[01:17:03.660 --> 01:17:08.660]  Well, ain't gonna fool me with that same old trip again.
[01:17:12.580 --> 01:17:17.580]  I was blindsided, but now I can see your hand.
[01:17:17.580 --> 01:17:22.580]  You put the fear in my pocket, took the money from my hand.
[01:17:22.740 --> 01:17:27.740]  Ain't gonna fool me with that same old trip again.
[01:17:27.740 --> 01:17:46.740]  Ain't gonna, ain't gonna, ain't gonna, ain't gonna, ain't gonna.
[01:17:47.700 --> 01:17:52.700]  Ain't gonna drive me with that same old sucker.
[01:17:52.700 --> 01:17:57.700]  I get it now, but then I must have it now.
[01:17:57.700 --> 01:18:02.700]  Back then you had room to move, but now you're feeling the ground.
[01:18:02.700 --> 01:18:29.700]  Ain't gonna get me with that same old sucker.
[01:18:29.700 --> 01:18:34.700]  All right, not gonna fool us with the same old tricks again.
[01:18:34.700 --> 01:18:36.700]  All right, we are back.
[01:18:36.700 --> 01:18:41.700]  Eddie Craig, Randy Kelton, and Deborah Stevens.
[01:18:45.700 --> 01:18:46.700]  Okay, we are here.
[01:18:46.700 --> 01:18:48.700]  We are talking to Mike in Texas.
[01:18:48.700 --> 01:18:51.700]  Okay, so Mike, please continue.
[01:18:51.700 --> 01:18:55.700]  Actually, Deborah, I had a question for you.
[01:18:55.700 --> 01:18:56.700]  Okay.
[01:18:56.700 --> 01:19:00.700]  Who's gonna be your guest on Thursday?
[01:19:00.700 --> 01:19:04.700]  I don't know yet, unless Randy has someone scheduled and hasn't told me.
[01:19:04.700 --> 01:19:08.700]  Yes, we have Thomas James from...
[01:19:08.700 --> 01:19:11.700]  HempUSA.org.
[01:19:11.700 --> 01:19:12.700]  I'm sorry?
[01:19:12.700 --> 01:19:13.700]  No, HempUSA, yes.
[01:19:13.700 --> 01:19:15.700]  Yeah, HempUSA.org.
[01:19:15.700 --> 01:19:17.700]  Oh, wonderful, yes.
[01:19:17.700 --> 01:19:18.700]  Oh, that's awesome.
[01:19:18.700 --> 01:19:20.700]  I can't wait for that show.
[01:19:20.700 --> 01:19:23.700]  So Deborah, what do you think of his, what do you think of his spots?
[01:19:23.700 --> 01:19:25.700]  Does he not have the coolest spots?
[01:19:25.700 --> 01:19:26.700]  I don't know if I...
[01:19:26.700 --> 01:19:28.700]  He can culture his...
[01:19:28.700 --> 01:19:29.700]  Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[01:19:29.700 --> 01:19:30.700]  Let me answer Mike's question.
[01:19:30.700 --> 01:19:32.700]  Let me answer Mike's question.
[01:19:32.700 --> 01:19:37.700]  I actually have not tried any of his products yet, but I would definitely like to.
[01:19:37.700 --> 01:19:43.700]  I mean, I just know that hemp in general is a wonderful substance.
[01:19:43.700 --> 01:19:49.700]  And I'm talking about hemp now, not marijuana, okay, which is two totally different plants.
[01:19:49.700 --> 01:19:58.700]  All right, and it's absolutely insane that it is illegal to grow hemp in this country because it's not a drug.
[01:19:58.700 --> 01:20:03.700]  It has no narcotic properties whatsoever.
[01:20:03.700 --> 01:20:06.700]  It's just like any other plant, like cotton.
[01:20:06.700 --> 01:20:13.700]  And it has such great properties because it makes the strongest fabric known to mankind.
[01:20:13.700 --> 01:20:20.700]  It can make the sails for ships, big giant schooners, okay.
[01:20:20.700 --> 01:20:27.700]  Christopher Columbus sailed over here with a ship of sails made out of hemp, okay.
[01:20:27.700 --> 01:20:30.700]  It's been used to make clothing, ropes.
[01:20:30.700 --> 01:20:32.700]  It's very nutritious.
[01:20:32.700 --> 01:20:34.700]  It's got so many uses, it's unbelievable.
[01:20:34.700 --> 01:20:40.700]  Hemp makes 10 times more ethanol per acre than corn.
[01:20:40.700 --> 01:20:46.700]  All right, so why do we want to use our precious food supply to put our gas tank when we could use that?
[01:20:46.700 --> 01:20:48.700]  I mean, it's just absolutely ridiculous.
[01:20:48.700 --> 01:20:52.700]  I mean, Big Pharma and the oil industry are pushing it down, so.
[01:20:52.700 --> 01:20:58.700]  I had heard somebody made an entire car out of hemp.
[01:20:58.700 --> 01:21:03.700]  Well, there was this one Cheech and Chong movie where they had the car.
[01:21:03.700 --> 01:21:09.700]  No, they actually built one that was almost armor-plated with what it was made out of.
[01:21:09.700 --> 01:21:11.700]  You could withstand body damage and everything else.
[01:21:11.700 --> 01:21:12.700]  It's incredible.
[01:21:12.700 --> 01:21:14.700]  It's a lot stronger than steel.
[01:21:14.700 --> 01:21:19.700]  Yeah, so I don't have any experience personally with his products.
[01:21:19.700 --> 01:21:22.700]  But if it's hemp, it's probably just fine.
[01:21:22.700 --> 01:21:23.700]  And I do love his commercial.
[01:21:23.700 --> 01:21:24.700]  I love his ads.
[01:21:24.700 --> 01:21:25.700]  It's really cute.
[01:21:25.700 --> 01:21:28.700]  I do have experience with his products.
[01:21:28.700 --> 01:21:30.700]  They are fantastic.
[01:21:30.700 --> 01:21:31.700]  That's great.
[01:21:31.700 --> 01:21:39.700]  My father, my 83-year-old father, I turned him on to hemp, and he absolutely loves it.
[01:21:39.700 --> 01:21:41.700]  He uses it every single day.
[01:21:41.700 --> 01:21:45.700]  All of his friends comment on how healthy he looks.
[01:21:45.700 --> 01:21:49.700]  And he works every single day.
[01:21:49.700 --> 01:21:50.700]  He gets full of energy.
[01:21:50.700 --> 01:21:59.700]  He just, you know, I kind of plug in hemp USA because I really believe in the products,
[01:21:59.700 --> 01:22:01.700]  and I really like Tom a lot.
[01:22:01.700 --> 01:22:05.700]  I was talking about his spots though, his radio spots.
[01:22:05.700 --> 01:22:06.700]  What do you think about his spots?
[01:22:06.700 --> 01:22:07.700]  I like it.
[01:22:07.700 --> 01:22:08.700]  I love his song.
[01:22:08.700 --> 01:22:09.700]  I think it's so cute.
[01:22:09.700 --> 01:22:10.700]  Isn't it?
[01:22:10.700 --> 01:22:11.700]  Isn't that awesome?
[01:22:11.700 --> 01:22:13.700]  I think it's great.
[01:22:13.700 --> 01:22:14.700]  I've always loved the song.
[01:22:14.700 --> 01:22:16.700]  I'm always singing the song.
[01:22:16.700 --> 01:22:20.700]  When we were on WTPRN and it would come on the breaks, I'd always be singing along with the song.
[01:22:20.700 --> 01:22:21.700]  Yeah, I love it.
[01:22:21.700 --> 01:22:22.700]  I think it's so cute.
[01:22:22.700 --> 01:22:23.700]  I can't wait.
[01:22:23.700 --> 01:22:24.700]  I'm going to call in.
[01:22:24.700 --> 01:22:26.700]  I'm definitely calling in Thursday.
[01:22:26.700 --> 01:22:27.700]  Yeah.
[01:22:27.700 --> 01:22:29.700]  Yeah, it's fantastic.
[01:22:29.700 --> 01:22:37.700]  I mean, actually, it used to be required by the federal government that all farmers had
[01:22:37.700 --> 01:22:45.700]  to, all commercial farmers had to set aside 10% of their land to grow hemp and nothing
[01:22:45.700 --> 01:22:54.700]  else, okay, because the government needed it just because it's nutritious and it's good.
[01:22:54.700 --> 01:22:58.700]  But I don't know all the reasons, but why was that, Mike?
[01:22:58.700 --> 01:23:01.700]  It's because it's a fantastic rotation crop.
[01:23:01.700 --> 01:23:02.700]  Yeah, that too.
[01:23:02.700 --> 01:23:06.700]  The minerals and nutrients to the top of the soil.
[01:23:06.700 --> 01:23:13.700]  It's super dense in nutrients and it's balanced when it comes out of the ground.
[01:23:13.700 --> 01:23:15.700]  It has essential fats.
[01:23:15.700 --> 01:23:16.700]  It has protein.
[01:23:16.700 --> 01:23:20.700]  It has carbohydrates, and it's just packed with nutrients.
[01:23:20.700 --> 01:23:25.700]  Yeah, it has some of the most complete amino acid strings of any plant.
[01:23:25.700 --> 01:23:32.700]  You've got that one and spirulina and oil of evening primrose, and those are the three
[01:23:32.700 --> 01:23:34.700]  top ones.
[01:23:34.700 --> 01:23:37.700]  Yeah, definitely.
[01:23:37.700 --> 01:23:39.700]  I'm really excited that you're going to have Tom on.
[01:23:39.700 --> 01:23:41.700]  He's a super great guy.
[01:23:41.700 --> 01:23:42.700]  Wow.
[01:23:42.700 --> 01:23:43.700]  Yeah.
[01:23:43.700 --> 01:23:44.700]  All right.
[01:23:44.700 --> 01:23:46.700]  Well, do you have anything else for us, Mike?
[01:23:46.700 --> 01:23:52.700]  No, you know what, Randy, I'll get you an email.
[01:23:52.700 --> 01:23:55.700]  I really want to get Eddie's email.
[01:23:55.700 --> 01:23:57.700]  Where do I send you an email, Eddie?
[01:23:57.700 --> 01:24:02.700]  I'll forward yours to Eddie, and then that way he can bounce right back to you.
[01:24:02.700 --> 01:24:05.700]  Unless, Eddie, unless you want to give it out in the air.
[01:24:05.700 --> 01:24:07.700]  Oh, no, I don't mind.
[01:24:07.700 --> 01:24:12.700]  It's rangerx64 at gmail.com.
[01:24:12.700 --> 01:24:16.700]  Yeah, and we're going to be posting a photo and bio of Eddie pretty soon on the website anyway
[01:24:16.700 --> 01:24:19.700]  because Eddie's pretty much become a permanent co-host with us.
[01:24:19.700 --> 01:24:23.700]  So we'll post his email address as well on the website.
[01:24:23.700 --> 01:24:27.700]  So it's rangerx64 at gmail?
[01:24:27.700 --> 01:24:28.700]  Yes.
[01:24:28.700 --> 01:24:29.700]  Awesome.
[01:24:29.700 --> 01:24:30.700]  All right.
[01:24:30.700 --> 01:24:32.700]  I'll go ahead and send you an email also.
[01:24:32.700 --> 01:24:34.700]  I sent you one, Randy.
[01:24:34.700 --> 01:24:37.700]  I think it was either Saturday or Sunday.
[01:24:37.700 --> 01:24:39.700]  Yeah, I got that responded.
[01:24:39.700 --> 01:24:42.700]  I don't know why you didn't get it, but I'll send you another one.
[01:24:42.700 --> 01:24:46.700]  Send me a new email so it's at the top of the list.
[01:24:46.700 --> 01:24:47.700]  Will do, man.
[01:24:47.700 --> 01:24:49.700]  Listen, guys, thank you very much.
[01:24:49.700 --> 01:24:50.700]  I love your show.
[01:24:50.700 --> 01:24:51.700]  Absolutely love it.
[01:24:51.700 --> 01:24:52.700]  Thank you.
[01:24:52.700 --> 01:24:53.700]  I appreciate that.
[01:24:53.700 --> 01:24:58.700]  We work very hard to get the information out, so we appreciate that really.
[01:24:58.700 --> 01:25:02.700]  I know you do, and I really appreciate it.
[01:25:02.700 --> 01:25:07.700]  This is a really great thing, and I'm looking forward to getting involved in this.
[01:25:07.700 --> 01:25:09.700]  Awesome.
[01:25:09.700 --> 01:25:10.700]  All right.
[01:25:10.700 --> 01:25:11.700]  Well, you guys take care.
[01:25:11.700 --> 01:25:12.700]  All right.
[01:25:12.700 --> 01:25:13.700]  Thank you, Mike.
[01:25:13.700 --> 01:25:14.700]  All right.
[01:25:14.700 --> 01:25:15.700]  We have another caller on the line.
[01:25:15.700 --> 01:25:18.700]  We've got Robert from Texas.
[01:25:18.700 --> 01:25:20.700]  Okay, Robert, thanks for calling in.
[01:25:20.700 --> 01:25:21.700]  What's on your mind?
[01:25:21.700 --> 01:25:23.700]  Hey, thank you so much for doing what you do.
[01:25:23.700 --> 01:25:26.700]  We all really appreciate it.
[01:25:26.700 --> 01:25:32.700]  I have a situation with a property that I own in Austin, Texas.
[01:25:32.700 --> 01:25:42.700]  And if our marshal is trying to shut us down, and he's refusing to put the complaints in writing,
[01:25:42.700 --> 01:25:46.700]  and all we're asking him to do is to put the complaints in writing.
[01:25:46.700 --> 01:25:52.700]  They asked us a few years ago to get a site plan, and we've been doing that,
[01:25:52.700 --> 01:25:59.700]  and it's just been a tremendous, tedious situation with dealing with the, you know, the...
[01:25:59.700 --> 01:26:01.700]  Well, Robert, wait a second.
[01:26:01.700 --> 01:26:08.700]  Are you saying that the fire marshal has not gone even through administrative channels of,
[01:26:08.700 --> 01:26:11.700]  like, the zoning department or anything?
[01:26:11.700 --> 01:26:12.700]  Well, it was...
[01:26:12.700 --> 01:26:17.700]  The code enforcement were the people that weren't aware that we actually did a site plan
[01:26:17.700 --> 01:26:22.700]  because there was two or three different addresses to the property, and he came back and said,
[01:26:22.700 --> 01:26:25.700]  oh, we've got to shut you down because you haven't done your site plan
[01:26:25.700 --> 01:26:29.700]  and didn't do his homework and then pulled the fire marshal into the scene
[01:26:29.700 --> 01:26:31.700]  and brought him back here.
[01:26:31.700 --> 01:26:34.700]  They made an appointment with us, and then they ambushed us.
[01:26:34.700 --> 01:26:36.700]  They didn't call us back and just showed us...
[01:26:36.700 --> 01:26:38.700]  Well, actually, they were supposed to make an appointment, but they didn't,
[01:26:38.700 --> 01:26:43.700]  and they just showed up and ambushed us on a day where a tenant was moving out in one corridor,
[01:26:43.700 --> 01:26:46.700]  and they're saying, oh, it's got a death trap corridor leading to nowhere,
[01:26:46.700 --> 01:26:48.700]  and we've got to shut you down.
[01:26:48.700 --> 01:26:54.700]  And, you know, they're refusing to put it in writing and let us correct the issues.
[01:26:54.700 --> 01:26:56.700]  They just want to shut us down.
[01:26:56.700 --> 01:27:05.700]  And, you know, a friend of mine told me about your show and something about you can get a bond
[01:27:05.700 --> 01:27:10.700]  or something against your lien, against your bond, against something like that.
[01:27:10.700 --> 01:27:17.700]  Okay, when you talk bond in this context, it makes more sense to think of it as insurance.
[01:27:17.700 --> 01:27:20.700]  Yeah, and the Agenda 21 guys are the ones who know all about that.
[01:27:20.700 --> 01:27:22.700]  They've been talking about it on the air,
[01:27:22.700 --> 01:27:27.700]  and they've got a full step-by-step process of what you need to do specifically
[01:27:27.700 --> 01:27:30.700]  to lien these public servants' bonds.
[01:27:30.700 --> 01:27:34.700]  And I don't know the whole ins and outs of it yet.
[01:27:34.700 --> 01:27:37.700]  I'm sitting there taking notes when I'm listening to their show,
[01:27:37.700 --> 01:27:41.700]  so you may want to call into them tomorrow night there on from 8 to 10
[01:27:41.700 --> 01:27:44.700]  and get them to explain a little more thoroughly about that.
[01:27:44.700 --> 01:27:46.700]  Let me ask you a few questions.
[01:27:46.700 --> 01:27:49.700]  Are you in the process of building?
[01:27:49.700 --> 01:27:50.700]  No.
[01:27:50.700 --> 01:27:54.700]  So you just have a place that's pre-existing?
[01:27:54.700 --> 01:27:55.700]  Pre-existing, right.
[01:27:55.700 --> 01:28:01.700]  And they're claiming standing code violations?
[01:28:01.700 --> 01:28:03.700]  Right.
[01:28:03.700 --> 01:28:07.700]  Did they cite the code?
[01:28:07.700 --> 01:28:09.700]  No, they haven't given us anything in writing, just vague opinion
[01:28:09.700 --> 01:28:13.700]  and trying to kind of bully us into telling our tenants to move out.
[01:28:13.700 --> 01:28:19.700]  Then file a criminal complaint against them for official oppression.
[01:28:19.700 --> 01:28:22.700]  Don't get them off the dive.
[01:28:22.700 --> 01:28:24.700]  Where are you located?
[01:28:24.700 --> 01:28:25.700]  Austin, Texas.
[01:28:25.700 --> 01:28:27.700]  Okay, wait, listen, we're about to go to break.
[01:28:27.700 --> 01:28:31.700]  Stay on the line, Robert, and we'll talk about this some more on the other side.
[01:28:31.700 --> 01:28:32.700]  Thanks, dear.
[01:28:32.700 --> 01:28:34.700]  Okay, we'll be right back.
[01:28:34.700 --> 01:28:41.700]  The rule of law, Randy Kelton, Deborah Stevens, Eddie Craig, 512-646-1984.
[01:28:41.700 --> 01:28:44.700]  Gold prices are at historic highs, and with the recent pullback,
[01:28:44.700 --> 01:28:46.700]  this is a great time to buy.
[01:28:46.700 --> 01:28:50.700]  The value of the dollar, risks of inflation, geopolitical uncertainties,
[01:28:50.700 --> 01:28:54.700]  and instability in rural financial systems, I see gold going up much higher.
[01:28:54.700 --> 01:28:57.700]  Hi, I'm Tim Fry at Roberts and Roberts Brokerage.
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[01:29:41.700 --> 01:29:45.700]  Yeah, who you want to chip? Who you think we for? We totally.
[01:29:45.700 --> 01:29:49.700]  Who you want to chip? Me no free totally. You can't chip me.
[01:29:49.700 --> 01:29:55.700]  All of them chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening, put a chip in your body.
[01:29:55.700 --> 01:29:59.700]  And then when you go computer reading, you can't hide me from nobody.
[01:29:59.700 --> 01:30:05.700]  What me say? Chip in your mom, chip in your daddy, chip in your grandpa and your granny.
[01:30:05.700 --> 01:30:10.700]  Chip in me, chip in your baby, chip in your family, whole family.
[01:30:10.700 --> 01:30:14.700]  Chip in your dad and the cap around me. Chip in the beef and you still go eat it.
[01:30:14.700 --> 01:30:19.700]  Chip in the fish, them all in the sea. Chip in the stock and the wheel around me.
[01:30:19.700 --> 01:30:24.700]  Do you see mankind going chip crazy? They're taking a thing and they want to read it.
[01:30:24.700 --> 01:30:29.700]  Social security, they go tell me. Number when they give me, they rip it up you see.
[01:30:29.700 --> 01:30:33.700]  I'm chip you in the morning, chip you in the evening, chip you all the dinner time.
[01:30:33.700 --> 01:30:38.700]  Experiments on mankind. But man, you know, say them right.
[01:30:38.700 --> 01:30:41.700]  Well, we don't want no chip, man, you have your body.
[01:30:41.700 --> 01:30:46.700]  Freedom or something, man, you fight for it. You should tell them that we read it.
[01:30:46.700 --> 01:30:51.700]  Constitution set us free. Don't let them put no chip in your body.
[01:30:51.700 --> 01:30:55.700]  Put no chip in your dog or cat, you see. Put no chip in your cow and go eat it.
[01:30:55.700 --> 01:31:00.700]  Put no chip in the fish and go eat it. All in the wheel and the stock in the sea.
[01:31:00.700 --> 01:31:05.700]  Put the little chip in the little baby. Want to put the chip in your grandpa, you see.
[01:31:05.700 --> 01:31:10.700]  Put the little chip in the iron man's body. Eat me go hide in the Atlantic sea.
[01:31:10.700 --> 01:31:12.700]  Found it half the life, me say, gonna fly me.
[01:31:12.700 --> 01:31:14.700]  Some tell it get bad, some tell it get angry.
[01:31:14.700 --> 01:31:17.700]  Two chip them youth, me say, cross up, you see.
[01:31:17.700 --> 01:31:21.700]  Mr. Chip in the morning, chip in the evening, chip in all your body.
[01:31:21.700 --> 01:31:25.700]  Man, don't let them come come chip we. Put no chip in the...
[01:31:25.700 --> 01:31:30.700]  All right, don't let them come and chip us. No way.
[01:31:30.700 --> 01:31:35.700]  Because, you know, they sure do want to.
[01:31:35.700 --> 01:31:44.700]  Okay, we are speaking with our caller, Robert, about some code enforcement issues with the fire marshal.
[01:31:44.700 --> 01:31:47.700]  So, Randy, you are asking him some questions. Please continue.
[01:31:47.700 --> 01:31:53.700]  Yeah, I used to have a construction company and had problems with the inspector.
[01:31:53.700 --> 01:31:56.700]  Came in, told me all this stuff he wanted me to do.
[01:31:56.700 --> 01:32:01.700]  Went away. I did it. He came back, told me all this other stuff he wanted me to do.
[01:32:01.700 --> 01:32:04.700]  I told him, get the heck out of my building.
[01:32:04.700 --> 01:32:13.700]  Then I went to the mayor and told the mayor, you don't send that guy back unless he tells me everything he wants.
[01:32:13.700 --> 01:32:20.700]  And when he comes back, if he tells me anything else, I will sue you personally.
[01:32:20.700 --> 01:32:22.700]  Sue him personally?
[01:32:22.700 --> 01:32:27.700]  He came back, went through the place, gave me everything he wanted.
[01:32:27.700 --> 01:32:31.700]  Went away. I fixed it. He came back and he is going through it.
[01:32:31.700 --> 01:32:36.700]  And he looked up at some venting from the bathroom and different drains and stuff.
[01:32:36.700 --> 01:32:41.700]  They all have to vent on the roof. And he pointed up at the vent and I said, don't even think about it.
[01:32:41.700 --> 01:32:44.700]  Okay, okay.
[01:32:44.700 --> 01:32:53.700]  But go over his head. Go to the head of code enforcement and if you don't get satisfaction,
[01:32:53.700 --> 01:33:00.700]  go straight to the mayor and just raise cane with the mayor.
[01:33:00.700 --> 01:33:05.700]  Before you file the criminal complaints, you can make them up and show them to him.
[01:33:05.700 --> 01:33:10.700]  But go to the, do the political part.
[01:33:10.700 --> 01:33:14.700]  You get the mayor crawling down their throats and the word will get out,
[01:33:14.700 --> 01:33:21.700]  leave this dirty rotten guy alone, he'll get you in trouble.
[01:33:21.700 --> 01:33:25.700]  If you just try to get along with them, sometimes they get an attitude.
[01:33:25.700 --> 01:33:30.700]  Generally they're normal people and they're trying to keep everything safe.
[01:33:30.700 --> 01:33:36.700]  But if they get an attitude, you can certainly adjust their attitudes for them.
[01:33:36.700 --> 01:33:40.700]  And what was that file criminal complaint? Can you tell me what that was again?
[01:33:40.700 --> 01:33:42.700]  Official oppression.
[01:33:42.700 --> 01:33:45.700]  Official oppression? Oh, that's interesting.
[01:33:45.700 --> 01:33:53.700]  If he's exerting an authority he does not specifically have, he's acting under color of law.
[01:33:53.700 --> 01:34:01.700]  And if he's denying you a right to be free from being annoyed by these guys, you can call that official oppression.
[01:34:01.700 --> 01:34:11.700]  Well, if he actually has authority and statutes to back him up, that'll sure get him to come up with them.
[01:34:11.700 --> 01:34:15.700]  And it'll let him know that you mean business.
[01:34:15.700 --> 01:34:21.700]  And the rule of the word is, oh, they'll get you, they'll get you. No, they won't.
[01:34:21.700 --> 01:34:28.700]  When I threw that, he was an electrical, he was a building inspector out of my building.
[01:34:28.700 --> 01:34:32.700]  When he came back, he had a whole different attitude.
[01:34:32.700 --> 01:34:41.700]  What got me was I had put in a wall. This was a 16-foot tall, it had been a warehouse, and I put in a firewall.
[01:34:41.700 --> 01:34:48.700]  It had to be a 30-minute wall, so I had to have two sheets of plasterboard.
[01:34:48.700 --> 01:34:56.700]  He was upset because I put the plasterboard up before he inspected the electrical.
[01:34:56.700 --> 01:35:03.700]  I said, Bubba, you can walk around behind it.
[01:35:03.700 --> 01:35:07.700]  Well, I'm supposed to be able to inspect it from in here. Get out.
[01:35:07.700 --> 01:35:16.700]  Wait a minute, wait a minute. Are you saying that all of the electrical wiring at that point in time was completely accessible for him to examine?
[01:35:16.700 --> 01:35:21.700]  It's just that he couldn't examine it from one side of the wall?
[01:35:21.700 --> 01:35:22.700]  Yes.
[01:35:22.700 --> 01:35:23.700]  That is so ridiculous.
[01:35:23.700 --> 01:35:29.700]  He left a hole in the wall so he could walk through. It was a big warehouse that we were putting offices in.
[01:35:29.700 --> 01:35:30.700]  Oh, boy.
[01:35:30.700 --> 01:35:33.700]  So he said he's supposed to be able to inspect it from this side.
[01:35:33.700 --> 01:35:34.700]  Whatever.
[01:35:34.700 --> 01:35:36.700]  That's when I said, get out.
[01:35:36.700 --> 01:35:47.700]  Whatever. If he can inspect the wiring completely and totally, if he can have complete and total access to the wiring, you were not blocking his access to the wiring.
[01:35:47.700 --> 01:35:52.700]  It's just that he wanted to look at it from one side of the wall instead of the other. You know what? Tough.
[01:35:52.700 --> 01:35:54.700]  You just want to show me how big and bad he could be.
[01:35:54.700 --> 01:35:58.700]  Exactly. You know what that is? Again, chucking.
[01:35:58.700 --> 01:36:03.700]  That's when I showed him how big and bad I could be because I threw him out and went straight to the mayor.
[01:36:03.700 --> 01:36:07.700]  It's like, who's on boss? Who's really the top? He just wants to establish some stupid pecking order.
[01:36:07.700 --> 01:36:17.700]  Then the head of building inspections called me. Oh, what seems to be the problem? And I gave him more than just an earful.
[01:36:17.700 --> 01:36:25.700]  Don't send any more of these morons around here. And it was after that that the guy come in and told me everything I needed to do.
[01:36:25.700 --> 01:36:33.700]  And he didn't do anything about the wall. Came back and told me more. So, you know, they're kind of kind of they're passive aggressive.
[01:36:33.700 --> 01:36:41.700]  I'll just keep hammering him. I threw him out, went back to the mayor. After that, I had no problem from these guys.
[01:36:41.700 --> 01:36:50.700]  You know, it's just like that cop that called in the other night to our show telling us he's a law enforcement officer and he knows more about the law than us.
[01:36:50.700 --> 01:36:55.700]  Oh, really? Then why are you asking Randy what an apostille is if you know more about the law than us?
[01:36:55.700 --> 01:37:02.700]  And why are you asking us what the criminal procedure code is if you know about more about the law than us?
[01:37:02.700 --> 01:37:03.700]  Whatever. Get out of here.
[01:37:03.700 --> 01:37:09.700]  Yeah. And how can you accuse us of nitpicking if you know the law says it applies to one specific thing only
[01:37:09.700 --> 01:37:12.700]  and we're saying they're using it on something else?
[01:37:12.700 --> 01:37:20.700]  Well, the thing about the code enforcement, generally they try to do the right thing.
[01:37:20.700 --> 01:37:24.700]  And if you work with them, they'll generally try to go along with you. Sometimes you get a guy with an attitude.
[01:37:24.700 --> 01:37:29.700]  Yeah, that's what's happened with us. And that's why he turned it over to the fire chief or whatever.
[01:37:29.700 --> 01:37:35.700]  And now I've got to deal with the fire chief. It's saying it's an unhelpful safe building and we have to evacuate your tenants.
[01:37:35.700 --> 01:37:40.700]  We're giving you a 21-day notice and there's nothing you can do about it.
[01:37:40.700 --> 01:37:45.700]  Well, as Randy said, you can hit him with 3903 penal code official oppression.
[01:37:45.700 --> 01:37:52.700]  But remember now, 3902 can fall right behind that because all they have to do to get hit with abuse of capacity
[01:37:52.700 --> 01:38:02.700]  is to violate a law related to their office or to misuse government property in the commission of the act that was the violation to begin with.
[01:38:02.700 --> 01:38:11.700]  Wow. And you can actually charge them twice under abuse of capacity if they violate both Section 1 and Section 2.
[01:38:11.700 --> 01:38:18.700]  And the thing about it is it lets them know that you can come back at them.
[01:38:18.700 --> 01:38:23.700]  Almost nobody does that. So when you do that to them, they're going to be flabbergasted.
[01:38:23.700 --> 01:38:31.700]  Well, can I go and talk to them or do I need to call them? It's not illegal for me to call and tell just what I'm going to do?
[01:38:31.700 --> 01:38:35.700]  No, I wouldn't do that. No, don't do that. They hear this all the time.
[01:38:35.700 --> 01:38:40.700]  Oh, it's my rights and I'm going to do this. They don't pay attention to that.
[01:38:40.700 --> 01:38:45.700]  Don't even talk to them. They're subordinates. Go to the mayor.
[01:38:45.700 --> 01:38:51.700]  He's the guy you elected and just crawl down his throat and he'll be just as solicitous as he can be.
[01:38:51.700 --> 01:38:58.700]  And when he gets done, when you get done with him, he's going to call the head of building inspections and say,
[01:38:58.700 --> 01:39:04.700]  why have I got somebody down here crawling down my throat because of one of your people?
[01:39:04.700 --> 01:39:07.700]  He ain't going to care what the problem is.
[01:39:07.700 --> 01:39:13.700]  He's only going to want to care that I'm getting chewed out and I don't like it.
[01:39:13.700 --> 01:39:19.700]  Yeah. Yeah. Here in my town, I'm sending my notice of tort against the city directly to the mayor's house.
[01:39:19.700 --> 01:39:25.700]  Wow. I like that. I like your guys' attitude.
[01:39:25.700 --> 01:39:33.700]  So what if the mayor tries to stonewall me and it's not so easy to just get to talk to the mayor?
[01:39:33.700 --> 01:39:34.700]  What do I do in that case?
[01:39:34.700 --> 01:39:40.700]  Well, it doesn't matter. Sometimes it's better to talk to the mayor's secretary.
[01:39:40.700 --> 01:39:42.700]  She's more powerful than he is.
[01:39:42.700 --> 01:39:43.700]  Interesting.
[01:39:43.700 --> 01:39:49.700]  You see, he has to be diplomatic. She doesn't.
[01:39:49.700 --> 01:39:55.700]  She can call this guy and say, what is going on here? These guys are down here raising cane down here.
[01:39:55.700 --> 01:40:00.700]  And if I have to show this to the mayor, he's not going to be happy. You better do something about it.
[01:40:00.700 --> 01:40:05.700]  And that's the 3903, the penal code, file criminal complaint for official oppression.
[01:40:05.700 --> 01:40:08.700]  I'm going to tell her that's what I'm going to do.
[01:40:08.700 --> 01:40:09.700]  Yeah.
[01:40:09.700 --> 01:40:11.700]  3902.
[01:40:11.700 --> 01:40:21.700]  And then anytime an official commits a criminal act that harms you, you have grounds for suit.
[01:40:21.700 --> 01:40:27.700]  So if you go to the mayor, these guys can't go to the mayor.
[01:40:27.700 --> 01:40:32.700]  The mayor is his boss's boss's boss's boss. So he's afraid of the mayor.
[01:40:32.700 --> 01:40:36.700]  But you don't have to be afraid of the mayor. You're the sovereign.
[01:40:36.700 --> 01:40:41.700]  Now, is this the state fire marshal or is this the city fire marshal?
[01:40:41.700 --> 01:40:42.700]  City fire marshal.
[01:40:42.700 --> 01:40:48.700]  Yes. And then you go to the city council meeting and just jump up and down and raise cane.
[01:40:48.700 --> 01:40:51.700]  Get all the city council members, you know, publicity.
[01:40:51.700 --> 01:40:59.700]  These guys on the bottom, if they get the mayor and the council to pay attention to their boss's boss,
[01:40:59.700 --> 01:41:03.700]  the boss's boss is not going to be happy.
[01:41:03.700 --> 01:41:06.700]  You get some of the tenants to go to.
[01:41:06.700 --> 01:41:10.700]  Yeah. Remember what rolls downhill. It works in politics too.
[01:41:10.700 --> 01:41:14.700]  It works really good in politics.
[01:41:14.700 --> 01:41:22.700]  And if I needed more advice on this, do you guys have a consulting business or something that I could contact you on in case I need more help?
[01:41:22.700 --> 01:41:31.700]  I'm not, it's not my area. Building code is not my area. It's probably best to call a contractor.
[01:41:31.700 --> 01:41:32.700]  Okay.
[01:41:32.700 --> 01:41:36.700]  And, you know, they'll charge you consulting and they'll sit down and tell you what all your options are.
[01:41:36.700 --> 01:41:39.700]  They'll explain what's going on.
[01:41:39.700 --> 01:41:41.700]  And go ahead.
[01:41:41.700 --> 01:41:43.700]  Not an attorney like?
[01:41:43.700 --> 01:41:46.700]  No, attorneys don't know squat.
[01:41:46.700 --> 01:41:47.700]  Oh, boy.
[01:41:47.700 --> 01:41:53.700]  A general contractor will know all of these people. He will know what's going on.
[01:41:53.700 --> 01:41:56.700]  Now, he's going to want to try to sell you a lot of stuff.
[01:41:56.700 --> 01:42:01.700]  But if you hire him just to consult with you and let him know you're not going to use him,
[01:42:01.700 --> 01:42:08.700]  then you can get pretty good advice. And I suggest you do that. This is too serious. It could be flippant and careless.
[01:42:08.700 --> 01:42:13.700]  Yeah, because if they kick out my tenants, then obviously, you know, we wouldn't be able to survive, you know.
[01:42:13.700 --> 01:42:18.700]  Yeah. So go to a general contractor. He can tell you what you're dealing with.
[01:42:18.700 --> 01:42:20.700]  Great. I sure appreciate your help.
[01:42:20.700 --> 01:42:21.700]  Okay.
[01:42:21.700 --> 01:42:24.700]  Thank you so much.
[01:42:24.700 --> 01:42:25.700]  Okay. We're about to go to break.
[01:42:25.700 --> 01:42:29.700]  Okay. Yeah, we're going to break. We'll be right back. We've got more callers on the line.
[01:42:29.700 --> 01:42:33.700]  Callers, if you'd like to call in, it's 512-646-1984.
[01:42:33.700 --> 01:42:36.700]  We've got Stephen from Minnesota, Jessica from Texas.
[01:42:36.700 --> 01:42:41.700]  We'll be taking your calls on the other side. We'll be right back.
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[01:44:18.700 --> 01:44:23.700]  Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:44:23.700 --> 01:44:27.700]  Some things I realize fully.
[01:44:27.700 --> 01:44:32.700]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman.
[01:44:32.700 --> 01:44:35.700]  Somebody's gonna police the police.
[01:44:35.700 --> 01:44:40.700]  There's always a room at the top of the hill.
[01:44:40.700 --> 01:44:45.700]  I hear things of great mind and it's lonely there too.
[01:44:45.700 --> 01:44:49.700]  They're wishing they'd wake more than opposition to bills.
[01:44:49.700 --> 01:44:53.700]  They know that if they don't do it, somebody will.
[01:44:53.700 --> 01:44:57.700]  Some things in this world I will never understand.
[01:44:57.700 --> 01:45:01.700]  Some things I realize fully.
[01:45:01.700 --> 01:45:06.700]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman.
[01:45:06.700 --> 01:45:10.700]  Somebody's gonna police the police.
[01:45:10.700 --> 01:45:13.700]  I know they will.
[01:45:13.700 --> 01:45:15.700]  All right, we know they will.
[01:45:15.700 --> 01:45:19.700]  We know Ja will.
[01:45:19.700 --> 01:45:24.700]  Ja will never fail to tip back the scales.
[01:45:24.700 --> 01:45:30.700]  All right, we are continuing on with your calls on the rule of law radio.
[01:45:30.700 --> 01:45:32.700]  We have some other callers in line.
[01:45:32.700 --> 01:45:34.700]  We've got Stephen from Minnesota, Jessica from Texas.
[01:45:34.700 --> 01:45:41.700]  Other callers, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984, we're gonna go to Stephen.
[01:45:41.700 --> 01:45:43.700]  Hey, Stephen, yes, thanks for calling in.
[01:45:43.700 --> 01:45:45.700]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:45:45.700 --> 01:45:52.700]  Well, I just found an interesting fact searching Minnesota's government policies.
[01:45:52.700 --> 01:45:53.700]  Now I'll read this.
[01:45:53.700 --> 01:45:59.700]  It's Minnesota awards Digimark a new secure driver's license contract.
[01:45:59.700 --> 01:46:05.700]  And it goes in parentheses, new secure design and influence.
[01:46:05.700 --> 01:46:08.700]  Digimark Corporation today announced that Minnesota
[01:46:08.700 --> 01:46:12.700]  Department of Public Safety has awarded Digimark a new five-year
[01:46:12.700 --> 01:46:18.700]  driver's license contract estimated at $10.3 million.
[01:46:18.700 --> 01:46:19.700]  I thought that was interesting.
[01:46:19.700 --> 01:46:23.700]  And it also goes on to say that this is gonna be an ID secure for the state of Minnesota,
[01:46:23.700 --> 01:46:30.700]  which is one of the 32 U.S. states and several foreign countries that reply on Digimark's innovation.
[01:46:30.700 --> 01:46:32.700]  Oh, yeah, I know.
[01:46:32.700 --> 01:46:34.700]  They've been having that in the works for a while.
[01:46:34.700 --> 01:46:36.700]  I heard Catherine Albrecht talking about it on the air today.
[01:46:36.700 --> 01:46:44.700]  It's like they choose the most insecure possible method, okay?
[01:46:44.700 --> 01:46:49.700]  And then they have the gall to come back and tell us that it's for security.
[01:46:49.700 --> 01:46:51.700]  Give me a break.
[01:46:51.700 --> 01:46:58.700]  And then also, you know, Minnesota statutes at 169.01 definitions,
[01:46:58.700 --> 01:47:01.700]  a sub-definition 29, street or highway,
[01:47:01.700 --> 01:47:07.700]  means the entire width between boundary lines of any place when any part thereof
[01:47:07.700 --> 01:47:11.700]  is open to the use of the public comma as a matter of a right comma
[01:47:11.700 --> 01:47:14.700]  for the purpose of vehicle or traffic.
[01:47:14.700 --> 01:47:15.700]  Interesting.
[01:47:15.700 --> 01:47:16.700]  Yep.
[01:47:16.700 --> 01:47:18.700]  Open as a matter of right.
[01:47:18.700 --> 01:47:24.700]  Yep.
[01:47:24.700 --> 01:47:28.700]  So how far have you dug in to see what type of licenses are allowed to be issued
[01:47:28.700 --> 01:47:31.700]  by the Department of Motor Vehicles there?
[01:47:31.700 --> 01:47:32.700]  Well, actually, I found this out
[01:47:32.700 --> 01:47:35.700]  because I'm always digging into the Paperwork Reduction Act
[01:47:35.700 --> 01:47:39.700]  and their compliances for valid OMB numbers.
[01:47:39.700 --> 01:47:44.700]  And Title 44, the public training and documents, which I know they have none.
[01:47:44.700 --> 01:47:47.700]  In fact, I had a lawyer even swear at me all this and that,
[01:47:47.700 --> 01:47:51.700]  saying, oh, it's better than anybody else.
[01:47:51.700 --> 01:47:53.700]  And I said, what about you?
[01:47:53.700 --> 01:47:54.700]  And he just shut up.
[01:47:54.700 --> 01:48:00.700]  But in 3512, public protection, I think I mentioned this before a year ago,
[01:48:00.700 --> 01:48:03.700]  even notwithstanding of any provisional law,
[01:48:03.700 --> 01:48:06.700]  no person shall be subject to any penalty for failing to comply
[01:48:06.700 --> 01:48:10.700]  with the collection of information that is subject to this sub-chapter.
[01:48:10.700 --> 01:48:14.700]  Number one, the collection of information does not display a valid control number
[01:48:14.700 --> 01:48:20.700]  under the assigned number or director of the accordance to the sub-chapter.
[01:48:20.700 --> 01:48:25.700]  And then also in 3502, their definitions in sentence 14,
[01:48:25.700 --> 01:48:30.700]  the term penalty includes the imposition of an agency or a court
[01:48:30.700 --> 01:48:34.700]  or a fine or other punishment, judgment or monetary damages
[01:48:34.700 --> 01:48:40.700]  or equitable relief or the revocation, suspension, reduction,
[01:48:40.700 --> 01:48:46.700]  denial of a license, right, grant, privilege or benefit.
[01:48:46.700 --> 01:48:50.700]  Privacy Act 1974.
[01:48:50.700 --> 01:48:54.700]  Now, also what you're talking about on the OMB control numbers,
[01:48:54.700 --> 01:48:59.700]  there was a guy, his attorney, that managed to kick the living tar out of the IRS
[01:48:59.700 --> 01:49:04.700]  with the fact that the 1040 form does not contain a valid OMB control number
[01:49:04.700 --> 01:49:07.700]  and the DOJ dismissed his case with prejudice
[01:49:07.700 --> 01:49:10.700]  because they did not want that statement being made in public.
[01:49:10.700 --> 01:49:14.700]  Boy, they want nothing that's the truth in public anymore.
[01:49:14.700 --> 01:49:16.700]  They're going to dumb us down.
[01:49:16.700 --> 01:49:18.700]  But for those of you out there that want to know,
[01:49:18.700 --> 01:49:22.700]  go to the We the People website which is GiveMeLiberty.org.
[01:49:22.700 --> 01:49:24.700]  Michael Badnerich mentioned it earlier.
[01:49:24.700 --> 01:49:27.700]  And just do a search on the site for 1040 Checkmate
[01:49:27.700 --> 01:49:31.700]  and it gives you all the paperwork filed by the attorney for the defense
[01:49:31.700 --> 01:49:36.700]  showing exactly where the Paperwork Reduction Act specifies
[01:49:36.700 --> 01:49:44.700]  that no valid OMB control number is a perfect defense to refusal to file the form.
[01:49:44.700 --> 01:49:49.700]  Exactly, especially if you don't even comply with even signing any other papers.
[01:49:49.700 --> 01:49:56.700]  I'm surprised that not more people have harped on that point in these cases against the IRS.
[01:49:56.700 --> 01:49:59.700]  You know, even people like Becraft or Tom Cryer, I mean,
[01:49:59.700 --> 01:50:04.700]  they go through a lot of very complex legal arguments and shoot a lot of things down.
[01:50:04.700 --> 01:50:09.700]  But it's like I don't understand why more people aren't using that.
[01:50:09.700 --> 01:50:14.700]  Well, I guess probably it's more along the lines of build as many walls between you and them as possible.
[01:50:14.700 --> 01:50:17.700]  Right, exactly.
[01:50:17.700 --> 01:50:19.700]  All right, Stephen, do you have anything else for us?
[01:50:19.700 --> 01:50:21.700]  No, that was just all.
[01:50:21.700 --> 01:50:25.700]  I just thought it was an interesting fact for some of the Minnesotans listening up here and everybody.
[01:50:25.700 --> 01:50:26.700]  Oh, yes.
[01:50:26.700 --> 01:50:29.700]  And a big shout out to Minnesota, by the way.
[01:50:29.700 --> 01:50:35.700]  Liberty AM 1710 in Maple Grove and in Minneapolis.
[01:50:35.700 --> 01:50:38.700]  We're on the air there right now and we're about to expand.
[01:50:38.700 --> 01:50:43.700]  They're expanding their coverage area to the entire city of Minneapolis coming soon.
[01:50:43.700 --> 01:50:49.700]  So y'all can go to that site, libertyradio1710.com.
[01:50:49.700 --> 01:50:52.700]  Well, y'all have a good night then and God bless y'all.
[01:50:52.700 --> 01:50:53.700]  All right, thank you.
[01:50:53.700 --> 01:50:54.700]  Okay, bye.
[01:50:54.700 --> 01:50:57.700]  All right, we're going to go now to Jessica in Texas.
[01:50:57.700 --> 01:50:59.700]  Jessica, thanks for calling in.
[01:50:59.700 --> 01:51:00.700]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:51:00.700 --> 01:51:05.700]  Well, I was wondering, y'all said you were going to talk about how to do recording
[01:51:05.700 --> 01:51:13.700]  and then with a tape recorder or something in court one of the first nights that Eddie was your guest
[01:51:13.700 --> 01:51:15.700]  and you didn't get to it.
[01:51:15.700 --> 01:51:19.700]  So I was wondering if you could go over that.
[01:51:19.700 --> 01:51:27.700]  What I've been using is the 2.05 Code of Criminal Procedure where the very last sentence says
[01:51:27.700 --> 01:51:32.700]  that the court shall ensure the freedom of the press,
[01:51:32.700 --> 01:51:35.700]  which basically means they can't kick out recording equipment.
[01:51:35.700 --> 01:51:37.700]  Yeah, that's 2.03 paragraph B.
[01:51:37.700 --> 01:51:39.700]  Or 03, I'm sorry.
[01:51:39.700 --> 01:51:43.700]  The statute says the presiding judge, defense counsel,
[01:51:43.700 --> 01:51:49.700]  prosecuting attorney and police shall so conduct themselves so as to ensure a fair trial
[01:51:49.700 --> 01:51:54.700]  for the accused and the state and not impair the First Amendment.
[01:51:54.700 --> 01:51:56.700]  Yeah, now Mark Adams.
[01:51:56.700 --> 01:51:57.700]  And not impair the freedom of the press.
[01:51:57.700 --> 01:52:02.700]  Now Mark Adams in Florida is using that argument to be able to record in federal court,
[01:52:02.700 --> 01:52:07.700]  and that's quite an accomplishment because pretty much all federal buildings,
[01:52:07.700 --> 01:52:15.700]  especially federal courthouses, you can't even come on that side of the street with a recording device,
[01:52:15.700 --> 01:52:21.700]  even on the sidewalk and you get wronged with their security.
[01:52:21.700 --> 01:52:24.700]  So yeah, that's the argument right there.
[01:52:24.700 --> 01:52:33.700]  But maybe Jessica, are you looking for like practical ways of how to apply that when you go into that situation?
[01:52:33.700 --> 01:52:39.700]  I'm just merely curious, and I also have had mine keep asking you this,
[01:52:39.700 --> 01:52:46.700]  but because of that guy up in New Hampshire or somewhere that got put in jail.
[01:52:46.700 --> 01:52:47.700]  Don?
[01:52:47.700 --> 01:52:48.700]  Sam.
[01:52:48.700 --> 01:52:49.700]  Sam, yeah.
[01:52:49.700 --> 01:52:57.700]  And they didn't want to let him record, and so they threw him in jail because he brought a recording device in.
[01:52:57.700 --> 01:53:00.700]  Yeah, what is the status on Sam right now, Randy?
[01:53:00.700 --> 01:53:01.700]  I don't know.
[01:53:01.700 --> 01:53:06.700]  The last I heard he was still in jail, he's in jail because he refused to tell him what his name was.
[01:53:06.700 --> 01:53:10.700]  Yeah, and that was a really dumb move, I'm sorry to say.
[01:53:10.700 --> 01:53:14.700]  As much as I love Sam because I know him personally and I'm not trying to insult him or anything,
[01:53:14.700 --> 01:53:19.700]  but it's like why are you going to endanger yourself,
[01:53:19.700 --> 01:53:24.700]  especially endangering yourself for contempt of court over something like that?
[01:53:24.700 --> 01:53:31.700]  I mean, I don't know, it's not fair because he should be fighting other issues.
[01:53:31.700 --> 01:53:38.700]  He should be challenging them on the freedom of the press issue about bringing recording devices into the court,
[01:53:38.700 --> 01:53:46.700]  and he's kind of like already hamstrung himself at least temporarily by getting all hung up on this issue of not wanting to tell him his name.
[01:53:46.700 --> 01:53:50.700]  It's like he should be taking him to task over freedom of the press.
[01:53:50.700 --> 01:53:55.700]  So we need to contact Ivy and find out what's going on.
[01:53:55.700 --> 01:53:57.700]  I have one other question.
[01:53:57.700 --> 01:54:02.700]  In being taken before the magistrate if a police officer gets you,
[01:54:02.700 --> 01:54:07.700]  it says I read that after you gave out that code number and it says something about 48 hours,
[01:54:07.700 --> 01:54:11.700]  having 48 hours to take you before the magistrate.
[01:54:11.700 --> 01:54:15.700]  No, they don't have up to 48 hours to take you before the magistrate.
[01:54:15.700 --> 01:54:19.700]  What it says is that they have to take you right away.
[01:54:19.700 --> 01:54:22.700]  They have to make all due diligent effort immediately.
[01:54:22.700 --> 01:54:30.700]  But after 48 hours, then it is very clear that they have not made any diligent effort at all,
[01:54:30.700 --> 01:54:34.700]  but it's not like they're allowed up to 48 hours.
[01:54:34.700 --> 01:54:35.700]  Right.
[01:54:35.700 --> 01:54:38.700]  The prosecutors took that to mean they could wait 48 hours.
[01:54:38.700 --> 01:54:41.700]  It's actually been lowered to 24 hours.
[01:54:41.700 --> 01:54:44.700]  But all that goes to is prima facie.
[01:54:44.700 --> 01:54:48.700]  Yeah, it just shows prima facie evidence that they've made no due diligent effort.
[01:54:48.700 --> 01:54:53.700]  It's kind of like, okay, well, it's obvious to everyone that after 24 hours they haven't made any due diligent effort,
[01:54:53.700 --> 01:54:55.700]  but they have to make due diligent effort immediately.
[01:54:55.700 --> 01:55:00.700]  They have to bring you to a magistrate immediately during business hours,
[01:55:00.700 --> 01:55:07.700]  and if there's no magistrate available they have to go to the next adjoining county to try to seek one out.
[01:55:07.700 --> 01:55:11.700]  Okay, only if they cannot find one at all,
[01:55:11.700 --> 01:55:13.700]  and it's the middle of the night or something like that,
[01:55:13.700 --> 01:55:18.700]  are they allowed to book you into jail before taking you to the magistrate? That is the law.
[01:55:18.700 --> 01:55:24.700]  And can they, if they did that to you, you're talking about oppression, official oppression?
[01:55:24.700 --> 01:55:27.700]  Could you actually file that against them right away?
[01:55:27.700 --> 01:55:29.700]  We're talking about aggravated kidnapping.
[01:55:29.700 --> 01:55:31.700]  We're talking about literally hundreds of charges.
[01:55:31.700 --> 01:55:35.700]  Randy goes through the whole thing in his petition for rid of habeas corpus.
[01:55:35.700 --> 01:55:37.700]  Right, Randy?
[01:55:37.700 --> 01:55:45.700]  Yes, there are a number of charges you can file, and this is not new law.
[01:55:45.700 --> 01:55:47.700]  This is very, very old law.
[01:55:47.700 --> 01:55:51.700]  This goes back to the Magna Carta.
[01:55:51.700 --> 01:55:57.700]  Now, the way that I actually read that, Deborah, is that even if they must take you here,
[01:55:57.700 --> 01:56:02.700]  regardless of whether or not there's, you know, whether it's business hours or not,
[01:56:02.700 --> 01:56:10.700]  if the courts are to be considered open 24 hours a day, then let's go knock on the magistrate's front door at home.
[01:56:10.700 --> 01:56:12.700]  That's what I thought, too.
[01:56:12.700 --> 01:56:15.700]  That's what I thought, too, but Randy was telling me,
[01:56:15.700 --> 01:56:23.700]  he was showing me some case law where the courts have adjudicated that if it's in the middle of the night,
[01:56:23.700 --> 01:56:27.700]  it's reasonable for the police to book them before taking them to the magistrate.
[01:56:27.700 --> 01:56:30.700]  But, Eddie, fundamentally, I do agree with you.
[01:56:30.700 --> 01:56:32.700]  You know what? Here's what I think.
[01:56:32.700 --> 01:56:41.700]  If they have enough money to outfit the cops the way they do with the battle rattle, like what John was talking about,
[01:56:41.700 --> 01:56:46.700]  then they can hire some magistrates to work full-time around the clock.
[01:56:46.700 --> 01:56:48.700]  That's how I see it.
[01:56:48.700 --> 01:56:52.700]  Yeah, well, at the very least, I mean, what was it, night court?
[01:56:52.700 --> 01:56:53.700]  That's exactly what they do.
[01:56:53.700 --> 01:56:55.700]  Exactly. What's the big deal?
[01:56:55.700 --> 01:56:57.700]  All right, listen, we're at the end of the show.
[01:56:57.700 --> 01:57:02.700]  I'm so sorry. Jessica, let's bring Tim on for just a few seconds.
[01:57:02.700 --> 01:57:04.700]  Tim, you've got about 20 seconds.
[01:57:04.700 --> 01:57:08.700]  Great. Just real quick, I was looking through some forms online for the Harris County,
[01:57:08.700 --> 01:57:12.700]  and one of the forms was about probable cause for further detention,
[01:57:12.700 --> 01:57:16.700]  and now the admonishment from the back says if you are charged with a felony,
[01:57:16.700 --> 01:57:19.700]  you have the right to an examining trial.
[01:57:19.700 --> 01:57:21.700]  You have the right to an examining trial even if it's not a felony.
[01:57:21.700 --> 01:57:26.700]  If you are arrested, you have the right to an examining trial, period.
[01:57:26.700 --> 01:57:28.700]  I just thought that was interesting.
[01:57:28.700 --> 01:57:29.700]  Right.
[01:57:29.700 --> 01:57:32.700]  And they have to arrest you pretty much before they can charge you with anything
[01:57:32.700 --> 01:57:33.700]  or at least let you go for it.
[01:57:33.700 --> 01:57:35.700]  Exactly. All right, listen, we're at the end of the show.
[01:57:35.700 --> 01:57:37.700]  Call back in Thursday, Tim.
[01:57:37.700 --> 01:57:38.700]  Thank you.
[01:57:38.700 --> 01:58:07.700]  We'll be back Thursday night.
[01:58:08.700 --> 01:58:35.700]  Thank you.
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