[00:00.000 --> 00:07.000] www.brn.com and click on the banner or call toll free 866-LAW-EZ [00:09.400 --> 00:14.080] This news brief brought to you by the International News Net [00:14.080 --> 00:18.800] Sri Lankan forces captured the Tamil Tigers last major stronghold [00:18.800 --> 00:21.000] while the major battles appeared to be over [00:21.000 --> 00:24.000] analysts said the army will have a hard fight ahead [00:24.000 --> 00:25.720] fighting the Tamil Tigers [00:25.720 --> 00:29.200] who remain in the jungles among hundreds of thousands of civilians [00:29.200 --> 00:31.400] displaced by the fighting [00:31.400 --> 00:34.120] Ethiopia has withdrawn its troops from Somalia [00:34.120 --> 00:36.480] claiming to have crushed Al-Shabaab [00:36.480 --> 00:39.480] the strongest Islamist militia in the country [00:39.480 --> 00:42.920] the UN backed government weakened by infighting and corruption [00:42.920 --> 00:46.520] now only controls a few blocks of the capital [00:46.520 --> 00:49.480] Congolese Tutsi rebel leader Laurent Nkunda [00:49.480 --> 00:51.360] was arrested in Rwanda [00:51.360 --> 00:54.640] having gone there for talks with Rwandan authorities [00:54.640 --> 00:58.320] Nkunda is awaiting extradition to the Democratic Republic of Congo [00:58.320 --> 01:00.080] where he is accused of war crimes [01:00.080 --> 01:05.040] top of the hour news brought to you by INN World Report [01:05.040 --> 01:11.000] Barack Obama's ban on earmarks in the 825 billion economic stimulus bill [01:11.000 --> 01:14.440] is not stopping interest groups, lobbyists and lawmakers [01:14.440 --> 01:16.840] from funneling money to pet projects [01:16.840 --> 01:21.000] the associated press has learned that lobbyists are just working around it [01:21.000 --> 01:23.200] making the process more secretive [01:23.200 --> 01:25.960] the new rules mean lobbyists will work in ways [01:25.960 --> 01:27.960] that are impossible to track [01:27.960 --> 01:29.520] Obama who campaigned [01:29.520 --> 01:32.560] promising a more transparent and accountable government [01:32.560 --> 01:34.120] is advocating a system [01:34.120 --> 01:35.840] that will eventually let the public [01:35.840 --> 01:38.600] track exactly where stimulus money goes [01:38.600 --> 01:41.040] through an internet-powered search engine [01:41.040 --> 01:44.480] Democratic lawmakers have devised an elaborate oversight system [01:44.480 --> 01:47.880] including a new board to review how the money is spent [01:47.880 --> 01:51.960] Keith Ashtown of the watchdog group Taxpayers for Common Sense said [01:51.960 --> 01:53.240] we hate earmarks [01:53.240 --> 01:56.480] but at least it's a way of tracking where influence is had [01:56.480 --> 02:00.160] now there's a challenge that projects will be added behind closed doors [02:00.160 --> 02:01.640] without a paper trail [02:11.640 --> 02:15.200] the Financial Times reported Sunday that Merrill Lynch's new owner [02:15.200 --> 02:16.440] Bank of America [02:16.440 --> 02:21.160] played an important role in the decision to pay four billion dollars in bonuses [02:21.160 --> 02:23.560] to Merrill executives last December [02:23.560 --> 02:27.320] that bonuses were paid despite huge fourth quarter losses [02:27.320 --> 02:31.160] and even as the bank was asking the government for more bailout money [02:31.160 --> 02:32.560] according to the Times [02:32.560 --> 02:36.120] Bank of America had said the payment of four billion dollars in bonuses [02:36.120 --> 02:38.200] was sanctioned by John Thane [02:38.200 --> 02:39.880] Merrill's CEO [02:39.880 --> 02:44.600] this was after a fourth quarter in which Merrill suffered a fifteen billion dollar loss [02:44.600 --> 02:48.200] the FT reported that Thane, who left the firm last week [02:48.200 --> 02:52.000] spoke at least twice with Bank of America's Chief Administrative Officer [02:52.000 --> 02:53.280] Steele Alfian [02:53.280 --> 02:55.400] before a December 8th board meeting [02:55.400 --> 02:58.240] at which Merrill's bonus payments were approved [02:58.240 --> 03:01.240] Bank of America told the FT that paying the bonuses [03:01.240 --> 03:02.560] was Merrill's decision [03:02.560 --> 03:23.560] and they simply informed Bank of America about it [03:32.560 --> 03:56.120] I got a shotgun, a rifle, and a four wheel drive [03:56.120 --> 04:07.600] And a country boy can survive, country folks can survive [04:07.600 --> 04:18.760] I can plow a field all day long I can catch catfish from dusk till dawn [04:18.760 --> 04:29.360] We make our own whiskey and our own smoke too Ain't too many things these old boys can't do [04:29.360 --> 04:43.560] We grow good old tomatoes and homemade wine And country boy can survive, country folks can survive [04:43.560 --> 04:51.960] Because you can't starve about and you can't make a front Those losing old boys raised on shotguns [04:51.960 --> 05:01.160] We say great, we say man If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn [05:01.160 --> 05:12.360] We came from the West Virginia coal mines And the rocky mountains and the western skies [05:12.360 --> 05:26.760] And we can skin a buck, we can run a trot line And a country boy can survive, country folks can survive [05:26.760 --> 05:37.960] I had a good friend in New York City He never called me by my name, just Steele Billy [05:37.960 --> 05:48.760] My grandpa taught me how to live off the land And he taught him to be a business man [05:48.760 --> 05:59.760] He used to send me pictures of the Broadway night And I'd send him some homemade wine [05:59.760 --> 06:10.960] But he was killed by a man with a switchblade knife For forty-three dollars my friend lost his life [06:10.960 --> 06:17.560] I'd love to spit some beech nut in that dude's eyes And shoot him with my old forty-five [06:17.560 --> 06:31.960] Because the country boy can survive, country folks can survive Because you can't starve about and you can't make a front [06:31.960 --> 06:45.960] Those losing old boys raised on shotguns We say great, we say man If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn [06:45.960 --> 06:57.360] We're from North California and South Alabama And the little towns all around this land [06:57.360 --> 07:20.760] And we can skin a buck, we can run a trot line And a country boy can survive, country folks can survive [07:20.760 --> 07:27.160] Alright, a country boy can survive Good ol' Hank Williams Jr., I love that song [07:27.160 --> 07:30.960] And one of the reasons I wanted to play that while I'm playing that last couple of times [07:30.960 --> 07:37.360] Is that really, you know, I just love these lyrics and it so much applies [07:37.360 --> 07:46.560] I love that line about we say grace and we say man And if you ain't into that, you better watch out buddy [07:46.560 --> 07:55.760] Okay, because this is the kind of thing that we were talking about on last Friday having to do with Jackie [07:55.760 --> 08:02.560] Okay, they're picking up women, 100-pound women and throwing them on the floor [08:02.560 --> 08:11.360] Ten big guys, okay, cops, they're supposed to be here to serve and protect us, okay [08:11.360 --> 08:15.160] And what are they doing? They're beating up on women [08:15.160 --> 08:20.960] Now does that sound like saying grace and saying ma'am to you? I don't think so, okay [08:20.960 --> 08:26.960] And any man that beats up on a chick, I have no respect for them at all [08:26.960 --> 08:33.360] At all, at all, at all You respect women because what if that was your mother? [08:33.360 --> 08:38.760] What if that was your sister? How dare you? How dare you abusers out there? [08:38.760 --> 08:42.960] You give me a break already You need to respect the Lord and you need to respect your mother [08:42.960 --> 08:46.960] You need to respect your sisters You need to respect women in general [08:46.960 --> 08:53.560] And people need to learn to be self-sufficient They grow their, you know, these guys [08:53.560 --> 08:58.960] Girls and guys growing their own tomatoes Making their own homemade wine [08:58.960 --> 09:04.960] And you can't starve us out because we feed ourselves and you can't make us run [09:04.960 --> 09:10.560] Because one of them old boys or girls for that matter will raise the old shotgun [09:10.560 --> 09:14.760] We're not going to put up with this And I love that song because it talks about [09:14.760 --> 09:19.960] There are people like that all over this country more than you think, all right [09:19.960 --> 09:26.160] California, South Alabama, Texas, all over the land, all right [09:26.160 --> 09:29.760] These new, older people, they don't know what they're up against, okay [09:29.760 --> 09:35.960] I believe in the American people that they're not going to put up with this, all right [09:35.960 --> 09:41.760] We have a long history, deep-rooted history Randy's a hillbilly, he's from Tennessee [09:41.760 --> 09:45.560] He grew up on the farm and all that kind of stuff He'll give you a little history in a minute [09:45.560 --> 09:50.760] I was going to ask him a few questions You know, my grandparents, they lived off the land [09:50.760 --> 09:53.760] My grandmother picked cotton until her fingers bled [09:53.760 --> 10:00.760] My grandpa, you know, ran the farm They dug potatoes out of the ground with their bare hands, all right [10:00.760 --> 10:06.760] And they saved up and scrimped and saved and had kids and ran the farm, eventually started raising livestock [10:06.760 --> 10:12.560] Chickens and hogs and moved on to cattle You know, they got a mortgage on a piece of property [10:12.560 --> 10:16.960] On a piece of land right when they got married, okay [10:16.960 --> 10:21.160] Had a kid, you know, about the next year [10:21.160 --> 10:28.160] Well, they had the loan and the banker, my grandfather, you know, he took out the loan from this banker [10:28.160 --> 10:33.160] Always harassing them on the street, all right This is what it was like in Little Town back in those days [10:33.160 --> 10:37.960] Ah, you old Bill Huff, you'll never hang on to that farm [10:37.960 --> 10:42.960] I'll have that land back before you know it, just being intimidating and stuff [10:42.960 --> 10:47.560] You know, well, the very first year they had that piece of property [10:47.560 --> 10:50.760] The good Lord blessed them with a bumper crop of potatoes [10:50.760 --> 10:55.160] And they, like I said, they dug those potatoes out of the ground with their bare hands [10:55.160 --> 10:58.360] They didn't have no employees, nothing, no sharecroppers, nothing [10:58.360 --> 11:06.160] You know, my grandma had my Aunt June who was a year old in the basket next to her as they're digging potatoes [11:06.160 --> 11:10.760] My grandpa goes to sell the potatoes at the farmer's market that year [11:10.760 --> 11:19.160] And he sold the whole thing the first day to someone, a big distributor that came along for a grocery store or something [11:19.160 --> 11:24.160] And they made enough money off that one sale of the whole crop of potatoes [11:24.160 --> 11:30.160] My grandpa says, he didn't stop at the dime store to buy my grandma a stick of bubblegum [11:30.160 --> 11:33.760] He went straight to that bank and paid off the whole mortgage, okay [11:33.760 --> 11:41.160] And my grandpa always told me, he said, do not ever let yourself owe the interest man [11:41.160 --> 11:42.760] He called him the interest man [11:42.760 --> 11:46.160] He said, you start owing the interest man, you'll never get out of debt [11:46.160 --> 11:48.960] You'll be paying the interest man for the rest of your life [11:48.960 --> 11:53.960] You know, it's a good piece of advice because the bankers around the country and everything else [11:53.960 --> 11:56.360] They always have your heart right with the Lord [11:56.360 --> 12:00.960] And so, you know, I just love that song because I have a little bit of history of that too [12:00.960 --> 12:04.360] My father and my grandparents taught me how to live off the land too [12:04.360 --> 12:07.560] My mother taught me how to be a shrewd businesswoman [12:07.560 --> 12:09.160] So I got a little bit of both [12:09.160 --> 12:16.560] And I'm telling you, I ain't putting up with this crap of these cops and judges and everything else [12:16.560 --> 12:22.560] And there's a lot of people like me out there, more people, so many that we're going to win [12:22.560 --> 12:27.160] So that's just a little bit of my history and why I love that song [12:27.160 --> 12:30.160] So you go ahead, Randy, what are your comments on this issue? [12:30.160 --> 12:33.760] You kind of brought to mind the Ku Klux Klan [12:33.760 --> 12:42.560] Now, in this day and time when we think of the Ku Klux Klan, we think of white racist bigots [12:42.560 --> 12:47.760] But that was not what the Ku Klux Klan was when it started [12:47.760 --> 12:57.960] What it was was a group of Civil War veterans who got together to enforce dignity [12:57.960 --> 13:02.160] If you beat your wife, they'd beat you [13:02.160 --> 13:07.960] If you didn't take care of your family, they'd come and take care of you and make sure you took care of your family [13:07.960 --> 13:09.960] That's what it was originally about [13:09.960 --> 13:16.560] What we see in the last 50, 60 years, this movement to hate and racism [13:16.560 --> 13:19.560] That wasn't what it was about originally [13:19.560 --> 13:25.360] I grew up in Tennessee, where I was originally from [13:25.360 --> 13:31.560] And there, it was a very rural area, everyone knew everyone [13:31.560 --> 13:37.560] And guys say, ma'am, they treat women with respect [13:37.560 --> 13:45.160] You have to because nobody there would tolerate you not treating women with respect [13:45.160 --> 13:48.360] They just would not have it [13:48.360 --> 13:58.960] And it's still strange to me to come across someone who will lay hands on a woman [13:58.960 --> 14:01.560] I don't know anybody like that [14:01.560 --> 14:07.360] If I come across someone like that, I have absolutely zero to do with them [14:07.360 --> 14:10.960] Goes to character [14:10.960 --> 14:17.360] It's not something that I could imagine to put my hands on a woman [14:17.360 --> 14:21.960] A long time ago, I used to really be crazy [14:21.960 --> 14:25.360] And I did something, you know, everybody that knew me knew I was crazy [14:25.360 --> 14:28.960] This is after I come back from overseas, but I can't blame it on that [14:28.960 --> 14:30.960] I grew up pretty nuts [14:30.960 --> 14:38.960] And I did a lot of really crazy stuff and everybody told me how crazy I was [14:38.960 --> 14:43.760] But I couldn't hear them because I was listening to them from inside my crazy [14:43.760 --> 14:47.760] And then one day, a guy threatened me [14:47.760 --> 14:52.560] I ran down and my father-in-law said I ran toward him with my hands over my head [14:52.560 --> 14:57.760] And grabbed him, picked him up to the ends of my arms and threw him down so hard [14:57.760 --> 15:01.960] That when his shoulders hit the ground, his feet were at my shoulder level [15:01.960 --> 15:08.560] I don't remember it, my father-in-law said I jumped on this guy who was just wailing on him [15:08.560 --> 15:12.960] And his wife hit me in the back of the head with a two-by-four [15:12.960 --> 15:18.360] Well, fortunately for me, it was a garbage two-by-four because it broke [15:18.360 --> 15:22.760] But when she hit me, I went down on this guy and came back up and I thought [15:22.760 --> 15:26.960] Wow, that guy can hit and started to hit him again and then I realized [15:26.960 --> 15:28.760] Well, he couldn't hit me [15:28.760 --> 15:34.560] And I turned and looked and his wife was standing there holding this two-by-four, this broken two-by-four [15:34.560 --> 15:41.360] And when I looked up at her, she gave me a look of mortal terror [15:41.360 --> 15:44.960] Because I've just snatched up her husband like a rag doll [15:44.960 --> 15:50.560] She hit me with a two-by-four and it breaks across the back of my head and does nothing [15:50.560 --> 15:55.560] And I look up at her and she's sure I'm going to kill her [15:55.560 --> 16:05.160] When I saw that look in her face, I thought my father would roll over in his grave [16:05.160 --> 16:13.160] Under no circumstances can a man ever put a woman in that position [16:13.160 --> 16:20.160] And when nothing else got to me, that got my attention [16:20.160 --> 16:22.560] Now, there was no way I would have done anything to that woman [16:22.560 --> 16:28.160] But just the fact that she thought that I may, that I had frightened her [16:28.160 --> 16:34.160] That was, in the world I grew up in, that was absolutely unacceptable [16:34.160 --> 16:40.160] And now to have our police beating up women, this is simply not acceptable [16:40.160 --> 16:41.760] Not acceptable at all [16:41.760 --> 16:45.160] These people need to learn how to say grace and say ma'am [16:45.160 --> 16:46.160] That's for sure [16:46.160 --> 16:49.960] If they don't like it, they're going to have to deal with the consequences [16:49.960 --> 16:53.760] If they try to run us off our land, somebody's going to raise the old shotgun [16:53.760 --> 16:54.760] All right, we'll be right back [16:54.760 --> 16:56.160] This is the rule of law [16:56.160 --> 17:24.160] Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens will take the calls on the other side [17:24.160 --> 17:29.160] You have been looking for in an investment, then Life Settlements is the investment for you [17:29.160 --> 17:35.160] Our annual rate 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19:21.160] If I can't believe my ears, I've got to believe my heart [19:21.160 --> 19:31.160] If I can't believe my ears, I've got to believe my heart [19:31.160 --> 19:41.160] If I can't believe my ears, I've got to believe my heart [19:41.160 --> 19:51.160] If I can't believe my ears, I've got to believe my heart [19:51.160 --> 20:01.160] If I can't believe my ears, I've got to believe my heart [20:01.160 --> 20:11.160] If I can't believe my ears, I've got to believe my heart [20:11.160 --> 20:21.160] If I can't believe my ears, I've got to believe my heart [20:21.160 --> 20:31.160] If I can't believe my ears, I've got to believe my heart [20:31.160 --> 20:41.160] If I can't believe my ears, I've got to believe my heart [21:01.160 --> 21:03.160] Thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight? [21:03.160 --> 21:05.160] How are you doing, Deborah? [21:05.160 --> 21:06.160] Good. [21:06.160 --> 21:09.160] Yes, I had a neighbor. He just got stopped. [21:09.160 --> 21:13.160] He got a ticket for an open container, but he was a passenger. [21:13.160 --> 21:15.160] But that's not the irony of it. [21:15.160 --> 21:21.160] They found out through NCIC in four states, they have claims he made terroristic threats, [21:21.160 --> 21:25.160] and he's never been to those states. [21:25.160 --> 21:29.160] They may have a similar name. [21:29.160 --> 21:36.160] I looked up a police officer once, and his name was David Davis. [21:36.160 --> 21:43.160] I got 12 hits. I got two with the same birthday. [21:43.160 --> 21:46.160] Generally, if you get the name and date of birth, you're good, [21:46.160 --> 21:49.160] but this one had two on the same birthday. [21:49.160 --> 21:56.160] So they may just have the wrong guy mixed up with him. [21:56.160 --> 22:03.160] He certainly needs to look into that and make sure they get it straight. [22:03.160 --> 22:08.160] Yeah, it's like at the airports, John Smith is on the no-fly list. [22:08.160 --> 22:13.160] Well, good grief. How many John Smiths are there? [22:13.160 --> 22:16.160] Well, Randy, on another note, I have a neighbor here. [22:16.160 --> 22:23.160] She's pacing going to jail, and I think her court appointed attorney is trying to railroad her into jail. [22:23.160 --> 22:27.160] Here she is. Hello? [22:27.160 --> 22:28.160] Hello. [22:28.160 --> 22:31.160] Okay, the situation, I'll go back. [22:31.160 --> 22:37.160] My kids were taken up in Kansas, and I don't want to give my name out. [22:37.160 --> 22:38.160] That's okay. [22:38.160 --> 22:43.160] But I'm needing help getting an attorney to help me garnish my rights. [22:43.160 --> 22:49.160] My mom, she got me to her hotel room, and I talked to her. [22:49.160 --> 22:51.160] That's who has my kids. [22:51.160 --> 22:55.160] She told me that she don't want child support. [22:55.160 --> 23:01.160] She was not wanting my money and everything else, but she never dropped it. [23:01.160 --> 23:06.160] Now, all I knew is all my mail was going to my ex-husband. [23:06.160 --> 23:07.160] I didn't know anything. [23:07.160 --> 23:16.160] All I knew is my child support was dropped, and it's up into the tens, 10,000. [23:16.160 --> 23:21.160] I can't work because I'm handicapped. [23:21.160 --> 23:28.160] Now, they gave me a court appointed attorney. [23:28.160 --> 23:35.160] My mom talked to my attorney, and we all come to agreement that I sign my rights away. [23:35.160 --> 23:36.160] I called. [23:36.160 --> 23:39.160] He refuses to talk to me. [23:39.160 --> 23:48.160] Now, I go to court in March, and I'm willing to give my rights to my mother. [23:48.160 --> 23:52.160] But my attorney is telling me, no, we can't do that. [23:52.160 --> 24:00.160] My ex-husband wants his rights, but he says they're telling me I can't do it. [24:00.160 --> 24:04.160] I have not seen my kids for four years. [24:04.160 --> 24:10.160] Last time my new husband talked to them, they said that they don't want nothing to do with me. [24:10.160 --> 24:11.160] They don't want to talk to me. [24:11.160 --> 24:15.160] They wish I was dead. [24:15.160 --> 24:21.160] And I'm willing to do whatever to make them happy. [24:21.160 --> 24:24.160] And so I'm needing to... [24:24.160 --> 24:25.160] Okay. [24:25.160 --> 24:30.160] This gets into family law, and it's not an area I'm knowledgeable about. [24:30.160 --> 24:37.160] However, next Monday, I plan to have Ken Magnuson on. [24:37.160 --> 24:41.160] And he's a lot more knowledgeable on family law than I am. [24:41.160 --> 24:44.160] He actually may be able to give you some good advice. [24:44.160 --> 24:45.160] Okay. [24:45.160 --> 24:48.160] I could give you advice, but it wouldn't be good advice. [24:48.160 --> 24:49.160] Yeah. [24:49.160 --> 24:51.160] I didn't know if maybe there's... [24:51.160 --> 24:55.160] George said there's attorneys that listen, and maybe somebody will help. [24:55.160 --> 25:03.160] My husband's the only one who would work in our household. [25:03.160 --> 25:10.160] And I have two other kids, and I can't risk going. [25:10.160 --> 25:16.160] Well, call back next Monday, and we may have someone who can give you an answer. [25:16.160 --> 25:17.160] Okay. [25:17.160 --> 25:18.160] I'll have you let George go. [25:18.160 --> 25:22.160] I've got to get back up here. [25:22.160 --> 25:24.160] I'm back. [25:24.160 --> 25:25.160] Hello, George. [25:25.160 --> 25:27.160] Yeah. [25:27.160 --> 25:28.160] We can't... [25:28.160 --> 25:32.160] I can't really speak well to family law. [25:32.160 --> 25:33.160] I know. [25:33.160 --> 25:35.160] It's an area all by itself. [25:35.160 --> 25:44.160] But Ken Magnuson, I talked to him today, and we tentatively planned on having him next Monday. [25:44.160 --> 25:53.160] And he's a lot more knowledgeable in family law and indigency, so he may be able to help her. [25:53.160 --> 25:55.160] Yes, I can see that. [25:55.160 --> 25:59.160] But just listening to a court-appointed attorney, it's like the parties agree, you know, [25:59.160 --> 26:05.160] it's renting parental rights, but the court won't allow her to. [26:05.160 --> 26:10.160] You know, because I think some of these judges make money off the child support. [26:10.160 --> 26:13.160] I don't know if it's that, but there is something about... [26:13.160 --> 26:14.160] I don't know. [26:14.160 --> 26:16.160] I don't think so in Texas. [26:16.160 --> 26:20.160] I mean, I know too many people who are involved with the DRO and the child support system, [26:20.160 --> 26:28.160] and they have their wages garnished directly, and money goes directly to the DRO, [26:28.160 --> 26:30.160] Department of... [26:30.160 --> 26:31.160] I forgot what they call it. [26:31.160 --> 26:32.160] Department of Family Affairs. [26:32.160 --> 26:33.160] I don't know why they call it DRO. [26:33.160 --> 26:35.160] I can't remember what the anacronym is right now. [26:35.160 --> 26:43.160] But at any rate, the entire amount that they pay goes directly to the custodial parent. [26:43.160 --> 26:45.160] I don't know how the DRO makes its money. [26:45.160 --> 26:47.160] I guess they're just funded by taxes or whatever. [26:47.160 --> 26:52.160] But I know too many people whose wages are garnished, [26:52.160 --> 26:56.160] and the exact amount goes directly to the custodial parent. [26:56.160 --> 27:01.160] So it would really, really be difficult for these attorneys to make anything off of the child support. [27:01.160 --> 27:02.160] I'll tell you. [27:02.160 --> 27:07.160] These divorce attorneys and family law attorneys, they make all their money off their clients. [27:07.160 --> 27:11.160] They charge exorbitant rates to their clients. [27:11.160 --> 27:13.160] You know, all I can say is she faces guilt. [27:13.160 --> 27:17.160] I can say she can't work, and I can say they want her to find a job, [27:17.160 --> 27:21.160] but she's handicapped mentally and emotionally. [27:21.160 --> 27:22.160] Yeah. [27:22.160 --> 27:23.160] I don't know. [27:23.160 --> 27:37.160] It was a complex issue as to whether one individual can sign their rights away to someone other than their spouse. [27:37.160 --> 27:38.160] You can't do that. [27:38.160 --> 27:44.160] The courts can grant custody to a family member or someone else. [27:44.160 --> 27:49.160] You cannot sign over, like endorsing a check, your parental rights. [27:49.160 --> 27:53.160] Now, the only way that you can even get the court to take away your parental rights, [27:53.160 --> 27:58.160] and this is what I understand because I also know people who have been involved with this, [27:58.160 --> 28:03.160] is that you have to not be paying child support for like seven years, [28:03.160 --> 28:11.160] and you have to have expressed absolutely no interest whatsoever in having visitation with your child for like seven years. [28:11.160 --> 28:17.160] That will do it for sure, and if you want to be able to have your parental rights removed any sooner than that, [28:17.160 --> 28:19.160] I mean, you really have to jump through hoops with the court system. [28:19.160 --> 28:22.160] So that's about all I know on that matter. [28:22.160 --> 28:25.160] But you definitely cannot sign over parental rights. [28:25.160 --> 28:27.160] That's just not the way it is. [28:27.160 --> 28:28.160] I know. [28:28.160 --> 28:29.160] It's like family courts. [28:29.160 --> 28:31.160] It's like a nightmare to deal with. [28:31.160 --> 28:39.160] It seems to be the most corrupt or at least the most complex, the most difficult to deal with. [28:39.160 --> 28:46.160] And it may be that it seems that way because the courts really don't care about either the parents. [28:46.160 --> 28:49.160] The only one they really care about are the children. [28:49.160 --> 28:53.160] Yeah, that's what they appear to say at any rate. [28:53.160 --> 29:02.160] But I heard like three years when you don't have the jury trial is bankruptcy, probate, and family courts, [29:02.160 --> 29:06.160] and they are the three most corrupted courts. [29:06.160 --> 29:09.160] It certainly seems that way. [29:09.160 --> 29:14.160] I mean, right now, I'm dealing with probate, and I tell you one thing, it ain't no fun thing. [29:14.160 --> 29:22.160] And being the executor is just like it's not easy because I'm still getting creditors from my parents' estate, [29:22.160 --> 29:30.160] because according to Florida law, we notify, they publish their name, and they have a 90-day window. [29:30.160 --> 29:33.160] And Citibank say, well, she owes us $3,000. [29:33.160 --> 29:35.160] I'm like, well, sorry. [29:35.160 --> 29:36.160] Doesn't matter. [29:36.160 --> 29:39.160] They can't go after you for any unsecured debt anyway. [29:39.160 --> 29:40.160] We already talked about that. [29:40.160 --> 29:41.160] All right, listen, George. [29:41.160 --> 29:44.160] We need to let you go because we're going to break, and we've got a ton of other callers. [29:44.160 --> 29:45.160] All right, thank you. [29:45.160 --> 29:46.160] All right, thank you. [29:46.160 --> 29:50.160] This is the Rule of Law on Rule of Law Radio, ruleoflawradio.com. [29:50.160 --> 29:52.160] We'll be right back. 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[31:40.160 --> 31:44.160] I'm running, I've been living the life that preaching is about to be. [31:44.160 --> 31:46.160] Living off is difficult enough. [31:46.160 --> 31:49.160] To be full of people don't make it grow, you'd better live rough. [31:49.160 --> 31:53.160] May the world learn to trust in the songs we sing. [31:53.160 --> 31:58.160] But in my heart I pray we're not going to bring any damage from the stones. [31:58.160 --> 32:04.160] Down with the people living in the playground songs. Damage from the stones. [32:04.160 --> 32:08.160] Down with the people living in the playground songs. [32:08.160 --> 32:21.160] I feel the pain, but it's all right. Pain, but it's all right. Pain, but it's all right. [32:21.160 --> 32:49.160] The rule of law. Ruleoflawradio.com. [32:49.160 --> 32:53.160] All right, we've got a full board of callers this evening. [32:53.160 --> 32:56.160] So we are going to go directly into your calls. [32:56.160 --> 33:02.160] We've got Daniel, Texas from Texas, Charlie from Missouri, Mark Adams. [33:02.160 --> 33:07.160] Mark Adams, why don't we bring Mark Adams up and then we'll keep Mark on the line. [33:07.160 --> 33:11.160] But we're also going to bring Daniel up right away as well. [33:11.160 --> 33:13.160] Hey, Mark, thanks for calling in. [33:13.160 --> 33:17.160] You want to sit in with us and field some calls here? [33:17.160 --> 33:22.160] Sure. I flipped on the show and I heard a little bit about a family law problem, [33:22.160 --> 33:26.160] and I didn't catch the problem, but I figured, no, let me call in and see if I can. [33:26.160 --> 33:30.160] Oh, cool. Okay, well, just hang tight there because there will probably be others, [33:30.160 --> 33:35.160] and maybe George could call back in towards the end of the show or something. [33:35.160 --> 33:38.160] All right, we've got Daniel from North Carolina. [33:38.160 --> 33:41.160] Hey, Daniel, thanks for calling in. What's on your mind tonight? [33:41.160 --> 33:45.160] How are you doing, Deborah? I'm all right. How are you doing, Randy? [33:45.160 --> 33:47.160] Howdy, Daniel. [33:47.160 --> 33:51.160] All right. Yes, I know I didn't get that narrative to you, [33:51.160 --> 33:56.160] that situation I was talking about last week. [33:56.160 --> 34:00.160] Right now I'm still in my administrative process right now, [34:00.160 --> 34:04.160] so I'm going to handle that right now with the 1099 and everything. [34:04.160 --> 34:08.160] So, you know, hopefully it doesn't go any further than that. [34:08.160 --> 34:16.160] But what was I going to say? That website you gave me, Debbie, that was Men and Fathers, what? [34:16.160 --> 34:19.160] Oh, and I'm trying to remember. [34:19.160 --> 34:25.160] Okay, I know that in Austin it's called Men and Fathers Resource Center, [34:25.160 --> 34:32.160] and I don't know what their actual website is, but, you know, if you do a search on Google, you know, [34:32.160 --> 34:36.160] or Ixquick, actually, you know, I'm kind of not very happy with Google right now. [34:36.160 --> 34:38.160] It hadn't been for quite a while. [34:38.160 --> 34:45.160] They're on the top list of, you know, nefarious companies that, you know, harvest people's private data. [34:45.160 --> 34:52.160] But at any rate, whatever search engine of your choice, Men and Fathers Resource Center, [34:52.160 --> 34:58.160] that's what it's called here in Austin, and supposedly they have chapters all over the country. [34:58.160 --> 35:02.160] Now, if they in particular don't have one, [35:02.160 --> 35:07.160] there's bound to be something similar to that in your area. [35:07.160 --> 35:16.160] And usually how they work things is that they'll either help you prepare paperwork so that you can go pro se, [35:16.160 --> 35:23.160] or they have attorneys that are like members of their organization [35:23.160 --> 35:28.160] that if clients get referred to them through the Men and Fathers Resource Center, [35:28.160 --> 35:35.160] basically just as a community service sort of thing, they will give, [35:35.160 --> 35:39.160] they will cut their hourly rate by like 70% or something, you know, [35:39.160 --> 35:44.160] for people who, you know, to help fathers that are getting railroaded by the system [35:44.160 --> 35:46.160] regarding custody and divorces and such. [35:46.160 --> 35:49.160] So then they're only like four or five hundred bucks an hour. [35:49.160 --> 35:52.160] Oh, come on. [35:52.160 --> 35:53.160] Okay. [35:53.160 --> 35:59.160] And what you told me about that, I think I found it. [35:59.160 --> 36:00.160] Sure, Jill. [36:00.160 --> 36:04.160] CERTO, C-E-R-T-O, it's fruit pectin. [36:04.160 --> 36:07.160] People use it to can preserves and stuff like that. [36:07.160 --> 36:10.160] Yeah, I don't think we want to go back there this week. [36:10.160 --> 36:12.160] We got in real deep last week. [36:12.160 --> 36:15.160] You said I could take it a couple hours before that, right? [36:15.160 --> 36:17.160] I don't know, actually. [36:17.160 --> 36:18.160] Okay. [36:18.160 --> 36:21.160] Yeah, many hours before. [36:21.160 --> 36:23.160] Yeah, at least the same day. [36:23.160 --> 36:24.160] That's what I've heard. [36:24.160 --> 36:27.160] I mean, I'm not an expert on these sort of things because I've never. [36:27.160 --> 36:30.160] I have a sure way to handle that. [36:30.160 --> 36:32.160] Oh, excuse me. [36:32.160 --> 36:35.160] Stop smoking that stuff until you get your kids back. [36:35.160 --> 36:37.160] That's a sure way of handling it. [36:37.160 --> 36:40.160] Yeah, yeah, because you don't want to take any chances anyway. [36:40.160 --> 36:46.160] But, however, it apparently works, but I'm not making no guarantees. [36:46.160 --> 36:48.160] Right, I understand. [36:48.160 --> 36:51.160] I have one more question. [36:51.160 --> 36:56.160] I would like to know what a lot of people are traveling with right now, [36:56.160 --> 36:59.160] as far as people that don't have driver's licenses, [36:59.160 --> 37:02.160] because we have the right to travel, [37:02.160 --> 37:06.160] and I just want to know how that's really working out there in the world. [37:06.160 --> 37:14.160] Well, I travel with my 9-milli-mil, but other than that. [37:14.160 --> 37:16.160] It's not working very well. [37:16.160 --> 37:20.160] I'm not sure what's going on with what people use, [37:20.160 --> 37:23.160] what kind of paperwork they take with them on the right to travel. [37:23.160 --> 37:31.160] Now, I know somebody here in this town who has consistently gotten cases [37:31.160 --> 37:36.160] dismissed over and over and over, class B misdemeanors for driving without [37:36.160 --> 37:39.160] a license and without inspection sticker and without insurance [37:39.160 --> 37:42.160] and without license tags, license plates, et cetera. [37:42.160 --> 37:46.160] He's won with Randy's paperwork and some of the underlying arguments [37:46.160 --> 37:49.160] and the principles have been right to travel, [37:49.160 --> 37:53.160] but mainly the main legal arguments in these documents are, [37:53.160 --> 37:58.160] of course, statutory violations on the part of the government. [37:58.160 --> 38:01.160] Now, the thing is, what ends up happening, [38:01.160 --> 38:04.160] and what my friend is trying to look into, [38:04.160 --> 38:07.160] is getting a restraining order against the police department, [38:07.160 --> 38:14.160] prohibiting the police from pulling him over for anything related to having [38:14.160 --> 38:18.160] no driver's license or expired driver's license or no inspection sticker [38:18.160 --> 38:22.160] or no license tags and such like that, because what typically ends up happening [38:22.160 --> 38:26.160] is to keep getting pulled over and over again and again and again, [38:26.160 --> 38:29.160] and you end up spending your whole life fighting the same thing [38:29.160 --> 38:31.160] over and over and over, and so that's why he wants to get [38:31.160 --> 38:33.160] a restraining order against the police. [38:33.160 --> 38:35.160] And Randy said that there actually is precedent for that. [38:35.160 --> 38:37.160] You know, of course, you have to do that in the civil realm, [38:37.160 --> 38:41.160] and I don't know if he's initiated that lawsuit yet or not, [38:41.160 --> 38:45.160] but, man, it's kind of like the right to travel thing is that's, you know, [38:45.160 --> 38:47.160] I've gotten a lot of emails and comments from people, [38:47.160 --> 38:50.160] oh, you're no legal reformist and you're no patriot [38:50.160 --> 38:52.160] because you have a driver's license. [38:52.160 --> 38:55.160] Well, maybe I don't want to fight that problem right now. [38:55.160 --> 38:57.160] I've got other fights. I've got other battles. [38:57.160 --> 38:59.160] You've got to choose your battles. [38:59.160 --> 39:02.160] I don't want to spend all my time fighting about a driver's license [39:02.160 --> 39:05.160] when I've got a secretary of state that I still have to take down [39:05.160 --> 39:08.160] over election fraud and all these kinds of things [39:08.160 --> 39:12.160] and get our elections restored so we can actually vote someone in office [39:12.160 --> 39:14.160] because right now all the elections are rigged. [39:14.160 --> 39:17.160] I mean, I've got so many things like that that I need to deal with besides, [39:17.160 --> 39:20.160] you know, I spent the last several months setting up equipment [39:20.160 --> 39:23.160] and building a radio network, okay? [39:23.160 --> 39:27.160] So, I mean, come on. I'm a patriot. I'm just choosing my battles. [39:27.160 --> 39:28.160] So I don't know. [39:28.160 --> 39:31.160] Randy says that it's going to be very hard to fight the right to travel issue [39:31.160 --> 39:33.160] right now until we gain a little more control of our courts. [39:33.160 --> 39:34.160] What do you say, Randy? [39:34.160 --> 39:37.160] Exactly. [39:37.160 --> 39:41.160] How many people out here would go into combat [39:41.160 --> 39:48.160] with the finest weapon that exists and no ammo? [39:48.160 --> 39:50.160] I mean, I'm not going to go fight. [39:50.160 --> 39:57.160] You know, I'm the one that helped a friend get off on these right to travel issues. [39:57.160 --> 40:02.160] I have a driver's license. I have registration on my vehicle. [40:02.160 --> 40:04.160] I got it inspected. [40:04.160 --> 40:10.160] I don't want to spend my time fighting that particular fight quite yet. [40:10.160 --> 40:13.160] Yeah, because like I said, you spend a lot of time fighting over it [40:13.160 --> 40:18.160] because as soon as you get your charges dismissed from getting pulled over one time, [40:18.160 --> 40:21.160] then like three days later you get pulled over again [40:21.160 --> 40:23.160] and then you got to fight the whole thing all over again. [40:23.160 --> 40:28.160] Let's choose our battles very carefully and fight the battle. [40:28.160 --> 40:31.160] We can win when we can win it. [40:31.160 --> 40:33.160] I have my battles lined out. [40:33.160 --> 40:39.160] There are certain things I have to win before I can start taking on other issues. [40:39.160 --> 40:42.160] And I've tried to look real careful at what I'm dealing with [40:42.160 --> 40:47.160] to make sure I'm fighting the right fight at the right time. [40:47.160 --> 40:50.160] And it's not that I don't believe. [40:50.160 --> 40:56.160] I've read the code and, okay, it looks like we don't have to have a license [40:56.160 --> 40:59.160] according to the statutes. [40:59.160 --> 41:05.160] But don't tell this municipal judge that. [41:05.160 --> 41:09.160] Yeah, and go tell the police that, that are pulling you over every other day. [41:09.160 --> 41:13.160] I don't have time to train all these policemen. [41:13.160 --> 41:20.160] I don't have time to train all the prosecutors and the municipal judges. [41:20.160 --> 41:23.160] The first place I want to go are the highest judges in the district. [41:23.160 --> 41:25.160] Once we get their behinds kicked, [41:25.160 --> 41:31.160] now we've got somebody to help us deal with the guys down below as we walk down. [41:31.160 --> 41:38.160] But trying to fight those now, we've got a guy in Jacksonville, Texas [41:38.160 --> 41:44.160] who's been in jail for about 260 some odd days now. [41:44.160 --> 41:49.160] He got arrested here because he was on probation from Missouri [41:49.160 --> 41:54.160] where he's got 10 years for driving without a license. [41:54.160 --> 41:59.160] In Missouri, each time you get popped for the same thing, it steps up. [41:59.160 --> 42:06.160] And the third time it stepped up to a felony and they gave him 10 years. [42:06.160 --> 42:11.160] It's not that important to me right now. [42:11.160 --> 42:15.160] And you're in North Carolina, I can tell you from talking to people there, [42:15.160 --> 42:20.160] I have one guy there who may win that fight, but he is extremely knowledgeable [42:20.160 --> 42:23.160] and it is a big fight for him. [42:23.160 --> 42:27.160] If you're not very knowledgeable, I wouldn't go there. [42:27.160 --> 42:30.160] Randy, is that the vehicular travel? [42:30.160 --> 42:36.160] Yes. Yes, I would not go there now. [42:36.160 --> 42:38.160] Right now? No, it's not a good idea. [42:38.160 --> 42:44.160] In two or three years, if what I'm doing works and we get the courts back, [42:44.160 --> 42:46.160] then we can go there. [42:46.160 --> 42:49.160] But right now, they'll just roll over you. [42:49.160 --> 42:52.160] What it winds up doing is creating, you know, [42:52.160 --> 42:57.160] you'll go in there with the law on your side and the right on your side, [42:57.160 --> 42:59.160] and they'll do things wrong. [42:59.160 --> 43:00.160] And then you have to go after them. [43:00.160 --> 43:04.160] If you want to win your case, you have to go after them for doing things wrong. [43:04.160 --> 43:08.160] And then you go after them and the people you go to to go after them, [43:08.160 --> 43:09.160] they do things wrong. [43:09.160 --> 43:13.160] Now you got more people to go after and you got fights on top of fights [43:13.160 --> 43:16.160] on top of fights. [43:16.160 --> 43:18.160] So I stopped doing that kind of stuff. [43:18.160 --> 43:21.160] I'm going after the guy right at the top, [43:21.160 --> 43:27.160] because if I started the traffic fight, that's where I would wind up. [43:27.160 --> 43:32.160] And I'd have to get him beat up and then work my way back down to the bottom. [43:32.160 --> 43:35.160] So I'm not even going to start at the bottom. [43:35.160 --> 43:37.160] Let's pick our fights real careful. [43:37.160 --> 43:40.160] And I would suggest don't pick that fight right now. [43:40.160 --> 43:41.160] I would suggest the same. [43:41.160 --> 43:42.160] All right. [43:42.160 --> 43:43.160] Daniel, we're going to break. [43:43.160 --> 43:44.160] Do you have any other questions? [43:44.160 --> 43:46.160] Do you need to hold on to the other side? [43:46.160 --> 43:47.160] Yeah, hold on to the other side. [43:47.160 --> 43:48.160] All right. [43:48.160 --> 43:51.160] And then we've also got to go to Charlie, Missouri and Chuck and Georgia. [43:51.160 --> 43:53.160] We will be right back. 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[46:20.160 --> 46:22.160] And listeners, if you're out there listening to us [46:22.160 --> 46:27.160] on one of the plethora of FM and AM stations [46:27.160 --> 46:30.160] that are now carrying our radio network, [46:30.160 --> 46:33.160] if you could please, if you are in the vicinity of a computer, [46:33.160 --> 46:36.160] please tune into our stream so we can boost our numbers [46:36.160 --> 46:40.160] and get something to show our sponsors [46:40.160 --> 46:42.160] so that we can continue to grow. [46:42.160 --> 46:47.160] I just about completed the infrastructure here. [46:47.160 --> 46:50.160] I've just got one or two other things I've got to set up, [46:50.160 --> 46:53.160] and basically, you know, it's like 89% done. [46:53.160 --> 46:56.160] And after that, I'll be ready. [46:56.160 --> 47:00.160] I'll be ready to hire producers and bring on more hosts, [47:00.160 --> 47:01.160] but I need money. [47:01.160 --> 47:03.160] I need money to pay producers. [47:03.160 --> 47:06.160] You can't have producers on a volunteer basis [47:06.160 --> 47:07.160] because people won't take it seriously, [47:07.160 --> 47:09.160] and then they'll flake and not show up, [47:09.160 --> 47:10.160] and then we'll have dead air. [47:10.160 --> 47:13.160] So I have to pay people so that they will be responsible [47:13.160 --> 47:16.160] and take it legitimately and all that kind of thing. [47:16.160 --> 47:18.160] And I want to bring on more hosts. [47:18.160 --> 47:20.160] Frederick Graves was just asking me on the break, [47:20.160 --> 47:22.160] the last show, when are you going to get more hosts? [47:22.160 --> 47:23.160] When are you going to get more hosts? [47:23.160 --> 47:25.160] You know, so we need money. [47:25.160 --> 47:26.160] We need sponsors. [47:26.160 --> 47:28.160] We need your donations. [47:28.160 --> 47:30.160] I need to bail myself out of the hole. [47:30.160 --> 47:33.160] I dug myself in buying all this equipment. [47:33.160 --> 47:35.160] Randy needs more money for his beer fund. [47:35.160 --> 47:37.160] Okay, he's sitting there drinking hot tea. [47:37.160 --> 47:38.160] Come on, people. [47:38.160 --> 47:40.160] I still got that nickel. [47:40.160 --> 47:43.160] Okay, so anyway, that's my little rant there. [47:43.160 --> 47:45.160] We're talking with Daniel in North Carolina. [47:45.160 --> 47:46.160] We got Mark Adams as well. [47:46.160 --> 47:48.160] Okay, so Daniel, go ahead. [47:48.160 --> 47:51.160] What is your next question? [47:51.160 --> 47:54.160] Oh, Deborah, I'm going to pass the mic right now. [47:54.160 --> 47:56.160] I'm going to let somebody go ahead and ask some more questions. [47:56.160 --> 47:58.160] If you can get back to me later, that would be fine. [47:58.160 --> 47:59.160] I'm not going to hang up though. [47:59.160 --> 48:00.160] I'm still here. [48:00.160 --> 48:01.160] Okay, all right. [48:01.160 --> 48:02.160] You hang on the line, [48:02.160 --> 48:03.160] and we'll go through the rest of our caller bridge, [48:03.160 --> 48:05.160] and then we'll come back to you. [48:05.160 --> 48:06.160] All right, thank you. [48:06.160 --> 48:07.160] All right, Daniel. [48:07.160 --> 48:10.160] We're going to go now to Mark. [48:10.160 --> 48:11.160] Before we go to the next caller, [48:11.160 --> 48:14.160] you have any comments on this right to travel issue? [48:14.160 --> 48:17.160] Well, I sort of agree with you and Randy. [48:17.160 --> 48:21.160] I mean, basically, I think it's an issue. [48:21.160 --> 48:28.160] Certainly turning it into a privilege instead of a right is unconstitutional. [48:28.160 --> 48:32.160] It's an infringement on our right to travel, obviously. [48:32.160 --> 48:34.160] But there's more important issues, [48:34.160 --> 48:39.160] making sure the votes are counted accurately so that we can throw the scumbags out of power. [48:39.160 --> 48:40.160] Exactly. [48:40.160 --> 48:44.160] The scumbags who decided they were going to turn our right to travel into a privilege. [48:44.160 --> 48:47.160] How about we throw those guys out of office first? [48:47.160 --> 48:49.160] But yeah, we've got to get our elections back first, [48:49.160 --> 48:52.160] and as long as we've got voting machines, that ain't never going to happen. [48:52.160 --> 48:55.160] So that's my contribution towards right to travel. [48:55.160 --> 48:58.160] Good point, Mark. [48:58.160 --> 49:02.160] Right, and if you aren't sure about the voting issue, [49:02.160 --> 49:05.160] you can go to projectvotecount.com, [49:05.160 --> 49:08.160] and it explains how computers count in secret. [49:08.160 --> 49:15.160] And electionfraudnews.com has a lot of information on that too, [49:15.160 --> 49:18.160] and it's something that all you have to do is think for a second. [49:18.160 --> 49:20.160] Can you see a computer count? [49:20.160 --> 49:27.160] No, it counts inside its case, just like it's programmed or hacked to count. [49:27.160 --> 49:34.160] And unfortunately, we have evidence showing that elections have been rigged in America. [49:34.160 --> 49:42.160] Yes, Deborah did the research on the voting machines in Texas, [49:42.160 --> 49:48.160] and the people the Secretary of State got to evaluate the machines [49:48.160 --> 49:55.160] complained that some of them had switches in them to reverse the votes of minorities. [49:55.160 --> 49:57.160] But no, that was in California, actually. [49:57.160 --> 49:58.160] Oh, I thought it was here. [49:58.160 --> 50:01.160] No, that was in California, and it was an option. [50:01.160 --> 50:03.160] It wasn't like some kind of a glitch. [50:03.160 --> 50:07.160] It was an added feature that the election... [50:07.160 --> 50:08.160] Cool. [50:08.160 --> 50:11.160] Switch those minority voters to Republicans. [50:11.160 --> 50:13.160] Yeah, exactly. [50:13.160 --> 50:18.160] And what you found in Texas was they actually admitted in the testimony [50:18.160 --> 50:23.160] that they had to pre-program the outcome of their test. [50:23.160 --> 50:25.160] Well, it was trying to count a lot. [50:25.160 --> 50:33.160] Yeah, they had to pre-program in the election data of the test. [50:33.160 --> 50:39.160] Basically, they had to pre-program in the results in order for the software to even function. [50:39.160 --> 50:40.160] That's right. [50:40.160 --> 50:46.160] That's on the Secretary of State's website in the examiner's reports for the... [50:46.160 --> 50:47.160] I'm trying to remember the machines. [50:47.160 --> 50:48.160] ES&S. [50:48.160 --> 50:53.160] I keep thinking ECS because I've been dealing with this computer that has an ECS motherboard. [50:53.160 --> 50:55.160] But ES&S, yes. [50:55.160 --> 50:59.160] And that's on the Secretary of State website here in Texas. [50:59.160 --> 51:00.160] It's still there. [51:00.160 --> 51:01.160] Those were a lot of votes. [51:01.160 --> 51:04.160] They had to program in all 10 votes. [51:04.160 --> 51:08.160] All 10 votes. [51:08.160 --> 51:11.160] It was a very complicated routine. [51:11.160 --> 51:14.160] That's pretty bad, but it can't even count 10 votes. [51:14.160 --> 51:16.160] Could not count 10 votes, Mark. [51:16.160 --> 51:27.160] Listen, the test election data was 10 votes, and at the end of the test, it counted that there was like 6 votes. [51:27.160 --> 51:32.160] Now listen, I haven't done any computer programming since I was in college. [51:32.160 --> 51:39.160] I mean, I repair computers, and I deal with more higher levels of software design and things like this and configuration. [51:39.160 --> 51:49.160] But listen, even I can write a simple subroutine in DOS right now to count votes, to count to 10. [51:49.160 --> 51:50.160] Give me a break. [51:50.160 --> 51:52.160] That was certainly no fence post error. [51:52.160 --> 51:54.160] No, I don't think so. [51:54.160 --> 51:55.160] It was... [51:55.160 --> 51:57.160] I mean, that's a simple tabulation program. [51:57.160 --> 51:58.160] I know. [51:58.160 --> 52:05.160] And yet, you can't even get these machines that are counting our votes, wink, wink, to count 10 votes accurately. [52:05.160 --> 52:11.160] The thing to understand about that was it wasn't like these examiners snuck up on them. [52:11.160 --> 52:13.160] No, no, it wasn't. [52:13.160 --> 52:25.160] It's not like the examiners paid a surprise visit to the ES&S company to do a random test before they decided whether or not to certify them. [52:25.160 --> 52:33.160] No, the ES&S guys brought the machines to the examiners' office. [52:33.160 --> 52:35.160] And then it was... [52:35.160 --> 52:37.160] It was for the certification, right? [52:37.160 --> 52:38.160] I mean, it was for the certification. [52:38.160 --> 52:45.160] It was for examination, for the certification, and they had it set up well in advance, okay? [52:45.160 --> 52:54.160] I mean, look, the certifiers, the Secretary of State, they don't just decide, hmm, they don't like run around and do research and say, [52:54.160 --> 52:56.160] we think this company would be good or that company would be good. [52:56.160 --> 53:08.160] No, what happens is the voting machine companies go to them and have to fill out an application and petition to be certified and to be used in these elections. [53:08.160 --> 53:11.160] And they have to pay a fee, okay? [53:11.160 --> 53:13.160] They got to pay a certification fee. [53:13.160 --> 53:15.160] They have to pay a fee even if they're turned down, all right? [53:15.160 --> 53:22.160] They've got to pay for the certifiers' salaries and the testing procedures and all this sort of thing, all right? [53:22.160 --> 53:33.160] And then they set a date where they're going to have the exam and the company representatives bring the machines to the government office where the certifiers are, okay? [53:33.160 --> 53:40.160] So, yeah, it's kind of like having an open book exam, all right, when you're in school, you know? [53:40.160 --> 53:42.160] They still give you a passing grade. [53:42.160 --> 53:44.160] Yeah, exactly, exactly. [53:44.160 --> 53:50.160] They got the textbook right there with them and they still fail, but then they still let them graduate or whatever. [53:50.160 --> 53:52.160] That's exactly what it is. [53:52.160 --> 53:59.160] I mean, that just smells like bribery and manipulation of elections going on. [53:59.160 --> 54:08.160] I mean, who in the world, if they were actually working in the public's interest, would certify a machine that can't even count? [54:08.160 --> 54:13.160] You know, it's 40% off on the total votes of 10 votes. [54:13.160 --> 54:19.160] I mean, that's just outrageous. [54:19.160 --> 54:22.160] Absolutely, absolutely. [54:22.160 --> 54:23.160] Okay, all right. [54:23.160 --> 54:39.160] Well, let's, Mark, let's hold on right there and let's continue to move on to our next caller and let me see if my call page would come up. [54:39.160 --> 54:41.160] Randy, my brows are just froze. [54:41.160 --> 54:43.160] Can you punch in our next caller? [54:43.160 --> 54:44.160] Yes. [54:44.160 --> 54:46.160] All right, who is it? [54:46.160 --> 54:47.160] It's Chuck from Georgia. [54:47.160 --> 54:49.160] Chuck from Georgia, okay, my browser just came up. [54:49.160 --> 54:52.160] Okay, Chuck from Georgia, what's on your mind tonight? [54:52.160 --> 54:53.160] Hello? [54:53.160 --> 54:54.160] Yes. [54:54.160 --> 54:55.160] Hello. [54:55.160 --> 55:02.160] Oh, yeah, I'm calling because I want to have a question for you. [55:02.160 --> 55:20.160] I have a family member that had a house foreclosed on and she responded to the foreclosure with the lawyer, but they still, on the date of the foreclosure, and then she had to go to the magistrate court. [55:20.160 --> 55:31.160] And so she filed papers with the magistrate court, but the judge did not do anything with the papers that she filed. [55:31.160 --> 55:40.160] He just went on and did a writ of possession for the plaintiff, which was the bank. [55:40.160 --> 55:54.160] And then she went and appealed to the Superior Court, and she just received a grant and a writ of possession through the Superior Court for the plaintiff. [55:54.160 --> 55:58.160] And the plaintiff has never appeared in court. [55:58.160 --> 56:00.160] They only had an attorney. [56:00.160 --> 56:13.160] And it appears that the attorney on these papers for the Superior Court judge, that the plaintiff prepared the papers for them, and the judge just signed them in both cases, in the lower court and the Superior Court. [56:13.160 --> 56:18.160] Okay, you kind of glossed over the most important part. [56:18.160 --> 56:19.160] Okay. [56:19.160 --> 56:28.160] It was the original motion to foreclose. [56:28.160 --> 56:34.160] Did she get, you said she appeared on the day of the hearing. [56:34.160 --> 56:37.160] Did she get prior notice? [56:37.160 --> 56:39.160] Yes, she did. [56:39.160 --> 56:42.160] Did she answer prior notice? [56:42.160 --> 56:44.160] No, she did not. [56:44.160 --> 56:46.160] You've got to answer. [56:46.160 --> 56:51.160] She answered on the date of the foreclosure, but I think it was beyond the 30 days. [56:51.160 --> 56:53.160] Too late. [56:53.160 --> 56:59.160] You don't, that's the thing, I was just listening to Dr. Graves on jurisdictionary. [56:59.160 --> 57:02.160] You need to get jurisdictionary. [57:02.160 --> 57:04.160] There are time limits. [57:04.160 --> 57:07.160] You have to come within those time limits. [57:07.160 --> 57:10.160] You can't wait until the last minute. [57:10.160 --> 57:15.160] Yeah, if you're not within the time limit, then you have to make a motion to set aside as default. [57:15.160 --> 57:24.160] If you don't answer after you're served with process within the time period, that varies from 20 to 30 days, depending on what state, whether you're in federal court. [57:24.160 --> 57:31.160] If you don't answer within that time period, they enter a default against you, and then you have to file a motion to vacate that default before final judgment. [57:31.160 --> 57:41.160] And if you wait until it turns into a final judgment, then you have to appeal it or file a motion to vacate, and it's even harder to vacate it after that point. [57:41.160 --> 57:46.160] Here's what I'm saying. If they did a default on it, she didn't get any paperwork on it. [57:46.160 --> 57:55.160] So did the process server come out to the house and hand her the complaint, the foreclosure complaint? [57:55.160 --> 57:58.160] I'm not sure. I'm not sure. [57:58.160 --> 58:15.160] I think they just wouldn't have sold it on the floor. She didn't respond. She responded by telephone call, and they said all they wanted to do was give all the attorney that was handling the foreclosure that all they wanted was the bank. [58:15.160 --> 58:18.160] They wanted all their money. [58:18.160 --> 58:26.160] That's what they normally say, and if you talk to the other side's attorney, then you're not getting any representation because they represent the other side. [58:26.160 --> 58:30.160] And attorneys will sometimes lie to you. [58:30.160 --> 58:40.160] If I'm understanding correctly, if I'm explaining myself correctly, she called the bank, which is a bank in Minnesota. She called them. She didn't write. [58:40.160 --> 58:49.160] All right, listen, listen. Hold on one second. Hold on one second, Chuck, because we're going to break right now. All right, hang on till the other side. You and Mark both. [58:49.160 --> 59:05.160] We got a short break. Top of the hour. This is a rule of law on rule of law radio, ruleoflawradio.com. We'll be right back. [59:05.160 --> 59:20.160] Are you the plaintiff or defendant in a lawsuit? Win your case without an attorney with Juris Dictionary, the affordable, easy to understand, 4-CD course that will show you how in 24 hours, step by step. [59:20.160 --> 59:32.160] If you have a lawyer, know what your lawyer should be doing. If you don't have a lawyer, know what you should do for yourself. 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[01:01:00.160 --> 01:01:17.160] I'm talking to the young, I'm talking to the old, I'm talking to the one running around hardcore. Some of them I tell you man, I tell you face it all small. But I know the judge I ain't laugh cause we love one another. People that we love one another. [01:01:17.160 --> 01:01:45.160] They came from Harvard, they came from Yale. Came from the mental health center and the county jail. They've been to Vietnam, they've been to Canada. Been to the Persian Gulf and they've been down to Grenada. [01:01:45.160 --> 01:02:04.160] It's not for the world, they might have been anywhere, still it's ashes to ashes. I'm talking to the young, I'm talking to the old, I'm talking to the one running around hardcore. People that we love one another. [01:02:04.160 --> 01:02:21.160] Stop with the bullshit, stop with the fighting. Let's try a little love and some courage. I need to stop with the bullshit, stop with the fighting. Let's try a little romance and unite it. I need to love one another. People that we love one another. [01:02:21.160 --> 01:02:39.160] I need to live with love one another. I came from the same place we all know. Came from the land of the heart and the country of the soul. [01:02:39.160 --> 01:03:00.160] The rule of law on rule of law radio, ruleoflawradio.com. Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens. Alright we are speaking now with, we've got Mark Adams on the line fielding calls with us this evening and Chuck from Georgia. [01:03:00.160 --> 01:03:12.160] Okay so Chuck please continue, you were saying something right before the break about this mortgage situation. Yeah about the mortgage situation. Now we, hello. Yeah we're here. Hello. Yep. [01:03:12.160 --> 01:03:34.160] She had filed several papers, UCC papers with the clerk and the clerk of the court. She had filed UCC papers which she had mailed to the bank and I just can't name all of the, I think it was about three of them that she had filed. [01:03:34.160 --> 01:03:57.160] And I just can't give the nomenclature, the name of the record, UCC, whatever it is. And I can't pull them up right now. But she filed all those and she did, like I said, give some papers on the date of the foreclosure. [01:03:57.160 --> 01:04:10.160] And the attorney said he didn't care, they were going to foreclose anyway. And so okay so they did that and they called it selling on the courthouse step. [01:04:10.160 --> 01:04:31.160] And I guess Georgia is a state where they can do that. They don't have to do a foreclosure in the court. Oh no, they did the foreclosure first. And once they did the foreclosure, then they went to the justice court and the justice court did the eviction. [01:04:31.160 --> 01:04:42.160] Yeah and the foreclosure sale is usually held a certain number of days after the foreclosure judgment is entered. It varies from state to state. It's usually a relatively short period of time. [01:04:42.160 --> 01:05:07.160] And that's usually held on the courthouse steps. But if you don't mind for a minute, Randy and Deborah, I'll go through the steps here to show everybody how this works. First, the bank says we're filing a complaint or a petition to institute a foreclosure because somebody hasn't paid on their loan. [01:05:07.160 --> 01:05:22.160] Then they have to serve, that invokes the subject matter jurisdiction of the court. Then they have to serve process, that's the summits that has to be served on the person who's the defendant, the person supposed to pay the mortgage. [01:05:22.160 --> 01:05:37.160] If they can't serve the person, then they can go to constructive service, which usually has a requirement of at least two publications and a paper distributed regularly in the area, but that varies from state to state. [01:05:37.160 --> 01:05:46.160] So they have to get service either through direct service on the person of a summons or through the state's constructive service statutes. [01:05:46.160 --> 01:06:04.160] Once they have service, you have a time period in which to answer, which is usually 20 to 30 days. If you don't answer within that 20 to 30 days or file a motion to dismiss, or here's a really good trick, a motion to enlarge time in which to answer or file a motion to dismiss. [01:06:04.160 --> 01:06:21.160] If you don't respond, then what happens after the 20 to 30 day period passes is the clerk enters a default, and then the bank's attorney asks the judge to enter a default judgment, which the judge does. [01:06:21.160 --> 01:06:43.160] Usually all you do is get a notice of a hearing on a motion to enter a default judgment sent to you by regular mail at that point in time. The judge enters a default judgment based on the default entered by the clerk, and then it goes to foreclosure sale on the courthouse steps within usually a couple of weeks after that. [01:06:43.160 --> 01:07:06.160] Now the only way to short-circuit it, once again, is by responding once you've been served by either filing an answer or a motion to dismiss or a motion to enlarge time to answer, to buy yourself some more time, or at any time up until the morning of the foreclosure sale, you can file a petition for bankruptcy. [01:07:06.160 --> 01:07:23.160] As long as you file a notice when you file a petition for bankruptcy, you'll get a notice of commencement. If you file that notice of commencement or a suggestion of bankruptcy in the court records in the case for the foreclosure, then that will stop the foreclosure sale. [01:07:23.160 --> 01:07:40.160] If you fail to take any of those actions, the foreclosure sale is going to go through, and then depending on what state you live in, there's a period of time in which you can usually redeem the foreclosed property. Once again, that varies from state to state. [01:07:40.160 --> 01:08:01.160] Once it goes into management court with a dispossessory... Once the foreclosure sale has gone through and the period of time in which you can redeem the property has passed, then they go through an eviction proceeding. [01:08:01.160 --> 01:08:21.160] Okay. Well, they have not done anything. In Georgia, they sent her papers to go to magistrate court before the eviction, so she went into magistrate court, and what happened, they sent their attorney there. They didn't come. [01:08:21.160 --> 01:08:28.160] Well, the banks have to come. The banks are sort of a fictitious entity, and they're represented by an attorney. [01:08:28.160 --> 01:08:50.160] Okay. Now, here's what happened. The judge signed the order to order her to pay them so much money every month, which is close to $1,000 a month, which she does every month, but the lawyer didn't sign it, nor did she sign it. [01:08:50.160 --> 01:09:05.160] Then they told her that she could appeal that, which she appealed it as a pro se, and she went into superior court, and superior court came up with this order for granting a writ of possession. [01:09:05.160 --> 01:09:25.160] She got that today, but again, the bank who allegedly bought it, and they have not showed on the record where they are the holders of due course. She's asked the bank for them to show where they actually bought the property. [01:09:25.160 --> 01:09:40.160] That's the problem. The due course thing is something you have a right to demand proof of, but you have to go about the proper steps for doing that, and that's what Frederick is trying to find out. [01:09:40.160 --> 01:09:57.160] In jurisdictionary, I haven't read the course, but I know Frederick, and I know he knows what he's talking about, and in there he'll talk about, I'm sure, demanding proof of ownership of the note, or that you're the holder in due course of the note. [01:09:57.160 --> 01:10:12.160] You have to do that in the case before you get to the point where you're being evicted, because by the time you get to the point you're being evicted, you've already had a foreclosure judgment entered against you. [01:10:12.160 --> 01:10:19.160] Your property has already been sold at a foreclosure sale, and then the new owner is going through the process of evicting you. [01:10:19.160 --> 01:10:42.160] At that point in time, it's too late to go back and revisit whether or not the foreclosure was valid unless you have proof, like Randy had a case a month or so ago in Texas, where the record showed that the complaint was not properly filed. [01:10:42.160 --> 01:10:51.160] So the court's subject matter of jurisdiction wasn't invoked, and then I believe, too, wasn't the service of process insufficient? [01:10:51.160 --> 01:10:53.160] Oh, it got worse. [01:10:53.160 --> 01:10:54.160] Yeah. [01:10:54.160 --> 01:10:56.160] They got a scam going on. [01:10:56.160 --> 01:11:09.160] The first she knew about it was when the process, or when the constable knocked on her door and told her she was being evicted. [01:11:09.160 --> 01:11:10.160] Right. [01:11:10.160 --> 01:11:12.160] So her house had already been sold. [01:11:12.160 --> 01:11:18.160] We checked the records and then filed a challenge to the jurisdiction. [01:11:18.160 --> 01:11:24.160] She went to the court to file it, and the clerk told her, oh, there's an order in that case. [01:11:24.160 --> 01:11:27.160] You can't file anything in it. [01:11:27.160 --> 01:11:31.160] So they deprived her of her constitutional right to file documents in court. [01:11:31.160 --> 01:11:36.160] I went back down there with her, got security, took them with me. [01:11:36.160 --> 01:11:41.160] And when the clerk refused to take the filing, I told security to arrest her. [01:11:41.160 --> 01:11:49.160] Randy, you're telling me that she never got an order, she never got served by the sheriff or constable or anything about an eviction, [01:11:49.160 --> 01:11:58.160] or nothing ever came her way about her house being foreclosed on her getting evicted until they actually came to evict her. [01:11:58.160 --> 01:12:08.160] And then when she went to file paperwork, to file motions in the case, the clerk said that there was a court order prohibiting her to file any motions in the case. [01:12:08.160 --> 01:12:09.160] No, no. [01:12:09.160 --> 01:12:11.160] This was just standard procedure. [01:12:11.160 --> 01:12:14.160] Once there's a final order in the case, you can't file anything in it. [01:12:14.160 --> 01:12:16.160] Oh, so it's just standard. [01:12:16.160 --> 01:12:18.160] It wasn't even personal against her in her case. [01:12:18.160 --> 01:12:24.160] So you just file a motion, don't tell the other side, get your default judgment. [01:12:24.160 --> 01:12:32.160] And now when they find out about it later, they can't come back and do anything about it because they didn't know about it to start with. [01:12:32.160 --> 01:12:33.160] This is unbelievable. [01:12:33.160 --> 01:12:35.160] Oh, it is unbelievable. [01:12:35.160 --> 01:12:45.160] But generally, all the rules of civil procedure provide for filing a motion to vacate a judgment that's entered without jurisdiction. [01:12:45.160 --> 01:12:50.160] And even if you don't have a specific rule allowing that, [01:12:50.160 --> 01:12:56.160] which I would be surprised because there's a federal rule civil procedure that allows it and most states follow the federal rules. [01:12:56.160 --> 01:13:04.160] But even if you don't have that, there's case law that says you can always file a motion with the court that entered the judgment, [01:13:04.160 --> 01:13:18.160] pointing out that the judgment should be vacated because the court lacked subject matter jurisdiction or there was no service of process sufficient to confer personal jurisdiction. [01:13:18.160 --> 01:13:27.160] Yes, the subject matter jurisdiction may be challenged no matter how remote in history. [01:13:27.160 --> 01:13:28.160] Right. [01:13:28.160 --> 01:13:35.160] And they're saying if they can sneak around you and get an order, once they get an order, you can't file anymore. [01:13:35.160 --> 01:13:37.160] That's a pretty slick trick. [01:13:37.160 --> 01:13:39.160] That is a slick trick. [01:13:39.160 --> 01:13:47.160] And that's clearly, once again, a violation of someone's right to file documents with the clerk of court. [01:13:47.160 --> 01:13:50.160] I mean, that's just outrageous. [01:13:50.160 --> 01:13:57.160] I filed criminal charges against the judge and then we went down and bushwhacked the judge. [01:13:57.160 --> 01:13:58.160] So how did that turn out? [01:13:58.160 --> 01:14:01.160] Update us on that because I don't know the rest of the story. [01:14:01.160 --> 01:14:05.160] Yeah, and also I just want to remind people that we're getting a call board is loading up here. [01:14:05.160 --> 01:14:06.160] Yeah, yes. [01:14:06.160 --> 01:14:09.160] I went to Vegas so I haven't had time to get back to it. [01:14:09.160 --> 01:14:11.160] I needed to give it a little time to the tour. [01:14:11.160 --> 01:14:18.160] I had talked to the prosecutor and he told me he would give my complaint to the grand jury. [01:14:18.160 --> 01:14:21.160] So I'll go back down there and see if he actually did. [01:14:21.160 --> 01:14:25.160] We snuck up on the judge and went to him. [01:14:25.160 --> 01:14:28.160] He was in chambers and we knocked on the door and he come out. [01:14:28.160 --> 01:14:33.160] And I gave this challenge to the jurisdiction to Robin. [01:14:33.160 --> 01:14:35.160] And I said, when he comes out, give this to him. [01:14:35.160 --> 01:14:38.160] And he comes out and she said, here, this is for you. [01:14:38.160 --> 01:14:43.160] He looks at it and he said, well, you have to file that with the clerk. [01:14:43.160 --> 01:14:45.160] Well, we can file with the clerk and we can file it with you. [01:14:45.160 --> 01:14:51.160] According to the rules of civil procedure, a motion is filed when it's presented to the judge and you're the judge. [01:14:51.160 --> 01:14:52.160] Well, I'm not taking it. [01:14:52.160 --> 01:14:56.160] He handed it to me and I just held both hands up. [01:14:56.160 --> 01:14:57.160] You got it. [01:14:57.160 --> 01:14:58.160] I don't want it. [01:14:58.160 --> 01:15:00.160] So Randy wouldn't take it back. [01:15:00.160 --> 01:15:03.160] The judge had already taken it into his hands. [01:15:03.160 --> 01:15:05.160] He said, well, I'm not going to act on it. [01:15:05.160 --> 01:15:08.160] You're called, Bubba. [01:15:08.160 --> 01:15:16.160] Well, you know, sometimes that's the crooked judge I dealt with over in Pinellas County, Crockett Farnell. [01:15:16.160 --> 01:15:24.160] The attorney that replaced me originally filed his notice of appearance in a hearing that's on the record. [01:15:24.160 --> 01:15:29.160] And he handed the original to Crockett Farnell and clarified that that was original. [01:15:29.160 --> 01:15:32.160] And Farnell did not file it in the court file. [01:15:32.160 --> 01:15:39.160] So, I mean, it's sort of risky, although you can file things with the judges. [01:15:39.160 --> 01:15:44.160] It's sort of risky sometimes because if they're a crook like Crockett Farnell. [01:15:44.160 --> 01:15:48.160] I was setting the judge up so I could file more criminal charges against him. [01:15:48.160 --> 01:15:49.160] Yeah. [01:15:49.160 --> 01:15:52.160] Well, I know you have a plan, but I'm just talking in general out there. [01:15:52.160 --> 01:15:56.160] You got to be careful about filing something with the judge because if he's a bad guy, [01:15:56.160 --> 01:16:02.160] he will throw it in the round file and make you prove you filed it with him. [01:16:02.160 --> 01:16:03.160] Yeah. [01:16:03.160 --> 01:16:06.160] In my case, I'm hoping he throws it in the round file. [01:16:06.160 --> 01:16:07.160] Yeah. [01:16:07.160 --> 01:16:08.160] Now, back to Chuck's thing. [01:16:08.160 --> 01:16:16.160] I mean, basically, Chuck, you know, your friend needs to go down and look at the court records and find out, you know, [01:16:16.160 --> 01:16:24.160] look at the complaint and see if the complaint meets the requirements for filing a foreclosure complaint in the state of Georgia [01:16:24.160 --> 01:16:31.160] and then look at the proof of service of process to see if that meets the requirements for service of process in Georgia [01:16:31.160 --> 01:16:39.160] because basically at this point in time, if you can't raise an issue regarding a failure to confer subject matter jurisdiction [01:16:39.160 --> 01:16:48.160] by filing an appropriate complaint or serve process properly and confer personal jurisdiction, then, you know, she's pretty much out of luck. [01:16:48.160 --> 01:16:49.160] All right. [01:16:49.160 --> 01:16:50.160] Listen, we're going to break. 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[01:20:31.160 --> 01:20:36.160] And we've got, okay, we've got Mark Adams is with us, and we've got Rick from California, [01:20:36.160 --> 01:20:42.160] Charlie from Missouri, Stephen, Randy from Austin, Mike from Texas, and Daniel. [01:20:42.160 --> 01:20:45.160] All right, guys, hold on the line. [01:20:45.160 --> 01:20:48.160] And we're going to go now to Rick in California. [01:20:48.160 --> 01:20:50.160] Hey, Rick, thanks for calling in. [01:20:50.160 --> 01:20:52.160] What's on your mind tonight? [01:20:52.160 --> 01:20:54.160] Thanks for taking my call. [01:20:54.160 --> 01:20:55.160] Sure. [01:20:55.160 --> 01:20:57.160] Where the heck have you been? [01:20:57.160 --> 01:21:01.160] Well, I've been very busy doing some research. [01:21:01.160 --> 01:21:03.160] And I actually, I'm almost done. [01:21:03.160 --> 01:21:11.160] All I've got to do is notarize my Corona complaint that has named two officers for giving me a citation for expired registration [01:21:11.160 --> 01:21:18.160] because I state in my Corona complaint that the California Motor Vehicle Act does not apply to me when I'm not engaged in commerce [01:21:18.160 --> 01:21:20.160] because I have a right to travel. [01:21:20.160 --> 01:21:27.160] And that's when the municipal code has a code that actually states that it's a right for public vehicle to travel. [01:21:27.160 --> 01:21:30.160] So I'm going to name the two officers in my Corona complaint. [01:21:30.160 --> 01:21:34.160] I'm also going to name the chief of police, the mayor, the judge, and the city. [01:21:34.160 --> 01:21:39.160] And I'll be sending this Corona complaint to Homeland Security because I'm going to be saying that they're terrorists, [01:21:39.160 --> 01:21:48.160] and they are engaged in racketeering and extortion for the people that have a right to travel. [01:21:48.160 --> 01:21:51.160] Good for you, Rick. Good for you. [01:21:51.160 --> 01:21:53.160] Give them hell. Give them hell. [01:21:53.160 --> 01:21:59.160] And this is on top of me counterclaiming and suing them, basically challenging jurisdiction [01:21:59.160 --> 01:22:05.160] because they have no authority to stop me in the first place because, you know, you're not engaged in commerce. [01:22:05.160 --> 01:22:07.160] I just wanted you to know that. [01:22:07.160 --> 01:22:10.160] Are you adjudicating the counterclaim in the criminal? [01:22:10.160 --> 01:22:12.160] Yes. [01:22:12.160 --> 01:22:18.160] Okay. From what I understand, the way it works, from what I've read, is that you can sue in the criminal side, [01:22:18.160 --> 01:22:24.160] you can sue on the federal side, and maybe even on the civil side, but I'm not worrying about civil. [01:22:24.160 --> 01:22:28.160] I go for the criminal because I just go straight from the jurisdiction and attack them. [01:22:28.160 --> 01:22:29.160] I go for their throats. [01:22:29.160 --> 01:22:33.160] And so now the burden falls on them to prove that they even had jurisdiction. [01:22:33.160 --> 01:22:37.160] And with all my criminal complaints will be as exhibits A and B, [01:22:37.160 --> 01:22:45.160] certainly that there are many super cold states that, you know, that they even state that people have a right to travel. [01:22:45.160 --> 01:22:47.160] They have no defense. They really don't. [01:22:47.160 --> 01:22:51.160] So I guess defense for the people is a good offering. [01:22:51.160 --> 01:22:54.160] Absolutely. Good work, Rick. [01:22:54.160 --> 01:22:56.160] Good work, Rick. Good for you. [01:22:56.160 --> 01:23:01.160] Thank you. And I want to thank you guys for, you know, helping me out and getting me started when I had no clue as to what to do. [01:23:01.160 --> 01:23:04.160] But you guys have been there for me, and I want to thank you guys. [01:23:04.160 --> 01:23:06.160] It sounds like you're pretty well getting it figured out. [01:23:06.160 --> 01:23:10.160] Yeah, I know. And Rick, you know, it's people like you that's the reason that we do this show. [01:23:10.160 --> 01:23:20.160] People like you and Wendy, especially two of our shining prodigies, our apprentices, our Padawans, so to speak, in the Star Wars terms. [01:23:20.160 --> 01:23:26.160] You know, these guys, Wendy and Rick had never done anything like this before. [01:23:26.160 --> 01:23:29.160] And now y'all are just out there kicking behind. [01:23:29.160 --> 01:23:34.160] I mean, even taking it to new levels, stuff that we've never even done. [01:23:34.160 --> 01:23:39.160] I mean, Wendy's over there filing liens on these judges' properties and all kinds of things, man. [01:23:39.160 --> 01:23:42.160] So good for you, Rick. [01:23:42.160 --> 01:23:43.160] Yes, thank you very much. [01:23:43.160 --> 01:23:47.160] And one last thing, so you guys have an idea of how big this criminal complaint is combining. [01:23:47.160 --> 01:23:51.160] It's over 90 pages. [01:23:51.160 --> 01:23:53.160] Wonderful. [01:23:53.160 --> 01:23:56.160] You know, once you file it, you ought to put it up online. [01:23:56.160 --> 01:24:08.160] And there's a service that I just started using a couple weeks ago called Scribd, S-C-R-I-B-D. [01:24:08.160 --> 01:24:11.160] If you just search that, you'll come up. [01:24:11.160 --> 01:24:12.160] It's free. [01:24:12.160 --> 01:24:14.160] You can upload your stuff. [01:24:14.160 --> 01:24:18.160] It's like a word processing document or a PDF. [01:24:18.160 --> 01:24:23.160] And then you can, you know, find it online and other people can see it. [01:24:23.160 --> 01:24:28.160] And because it sounds like you're really on to something there with your research, Rick. [01:24:28.160 --> 01:24:29.160] Yeah, thank you. [01:24:29.160 --> 01:24:30.160] I'll look into that and see if I can... [01:24:30.160 --> 01:24:31.160] Yeah, that's interesting, Mark. [01:24:31.160 --> 01:24:32.160] Maybe you could hook me up with that. [01:24:32.160 --> 01:24:35.160] Maybe we could talk offline about that a little bit because... [01:24:35.160 --> 01:24:36.160] I'll send you guys a link. [01:24:36.160 --> 01:24:43.160] Yeah, because on the forum, I like for people to be able to upload their documents for other people to look at. [01:24:43.160 --> 01:24:51.160] And the forum that I use, the forum software I have set up, I didn't realize until a long time, months after that, [01:24:51.160 --> 01:24:56.160] it doesn't have a plug-in for people to be able to upload files. [01:24:56.160 --> 01:25:00.160] I think there's one that exists now, but I just haven't had time to look into it. [01:25:00.160 --> 01:25:04.160] So if there's something easy like that that can be set up, [01:25:04.160 --> 01:25:10.160] then what people could do is they could just use that service themselves and then post a link to it on the forum. [01:25:10.160 --> 01:25:11.160] Right. [01:25:11.160 --> 01:25:12.160] I mean, that's how it works. [01:25:12.160 --> 01:25:15.160] And it's great because you can even embed the documents on. [01:25:15.160 --> 01:25:18.160] If you have like a personal webpage, you can embed the document there. [01:25:18.160 --> 01:25:19.160] So it's... [01:25:19.160 --> 01:25:20.160] That sounds great. [01:25:20.160 --> 01:25:23.160] If I could do that, actually, I'll burn up this counterclaim. [01:25:23.160 --> 01:25:29.160] I even said that there are two lawful excusable conditions for seizing, searching any property or person. [01:25:29.160 --> 01:25:36.160] And this, of course, is aimed at officers, is A, a warrant of the law, or B, first-hand observation of a felony being committed. [01:25:36.160 --> 01:25:37.160] And that's it. [01:25:37.160 --> 01:25:39.160] Only felony. [01:25:39.160 --> 01:25:40.160] Yep. [01:25:40.160 --> 01:25:42.160] Oh. [01:25:42.160 --> 01:25:43.160] Interesting. [01:25:43.160 --> 01:25:46.160] So I'll post that up for you guys, and I want to thank you once again. [01:25:46.160 --> 01:25:52.160] Excellent. And, Mark, that sounds great because then people could just embed the documents in their posts on the forum. [01:25:52.160 --> 01:25:53.160] That would be great. [01:25:53.160 --> 01:25:54.160] Yeah. [01:25:54.160 --> 01:25:55.160] All right. [01:25:55.160 --> 01:25:56.160] I'll send you the link shortly. [01:25:56.160 --> 01:25:57.160] Okay. [01:25:57.160 --> 01:25:58.160] All right. [01:25:58.160 --> 01:26:00.160] Rick, thank you for calling in and giving us the update. [01:26:00.160 --> 01:26:01.160] Thank you. [01:26:01.160 --> 01:26:02.160] All righty there. [01:26:02.160 --> 01:26:03.160] All right. [01:26:03.160 --> 01:26:04.160] We have got more callers on the line. [01:26:04.160 --> 01:26:06.160] We've got Charlie from Missouri. [01:26:06.160 --> 01:26:07.160] Hey, Charlie. [01:26:07.160 --> 01:26:08.160] Thanks for calling in. [01:26:08.160 --> 01:26:10.160] What's on your mind tonight? [01:26:10.160 --> 01:26:11.160] Hello. [01:26:11.160 --> 01:26:12.160] Can you hear me? [01:26:12.160 --> 01:26:13.160] Yes. [01:26:13.160 --> 01:26:14.160] You're on the air. [01:26:14.160 --> 01:26:15.160] What's on your mind tonight? [01:26:15.160 --> 01:26:16.160] You guys are great. [01:26:16.160 --> 01:26:17.160] Thanks. [01:26:17.160 --> 01:26:19.160] Well, I'll let you both know that. [01:26:19.160 --> 01:26:20.160] Thank you. [01:26:20.160 --> 01:26:21.160] But not me. [01:26:21.160 --> 01:26:22.160] I'm on. [01:26:22.160 --> 01:26:23.160] He's an attorney. [01:26:23.160 --> 01:26:32.160] I was going to mention earlier that Mark mentioned that he hadn't read jurisdictionary. [01:26:32.160 --> 01:26:33.160] Well, that's understandable. [01:26:33.160 --> 01:26:34.160] Yeah. [01:26:34.160 --> 01:26:37.160] And by the way, Randy, speaking of jurisdictionary, where's my copy, huh? [01:26:37.160 --> 01:26:38.160] I got it right here on the deck. [01:26:38.160 --> 01:26:39.160] Okay. [01:26:39.160 --> 01:26:40.160] Good. [01:26:40.160 --> 01:26:41.160] Because Randy absconded with my copy of jurisdiction. [01:26:41.160 --> 01:26:42.160] I hadn't seen it again. [01:26:42.160 --> 01:26:47.160] The reason Mark hasn't read it is Dr. Grave wrote it for an eight-year-old. [01:26:47.160 --> 01:26:50.160] Oh, would you stop it? [01:26:50.160 --> 01:26:54.160] I'm sorry, an eighth grader. [01:26:54.160 --> 01:26:55.160] Okay. [01:26:55.160 --> 01:26:57.160] Go ahead, Charlie, please. [01:26:57.160 --> 01:26:58.160] No. [01:26:58.160 --> 01:27:03.160] I'm new to your show and new to your information. [01:27:03.160 --> 01:27:04.160] I got jurisdictionary. [01:27:04.160 --> 01:27:06.160] I think it's all great. [01:27:06.160 --> 01:27:12.160] You know, just when I start feeling stupid, I start telling people things, and they look [01:27:12.160 --> 01:27:14.160] at me at all and say, what? [01:27:14.160 --> 01:27:17.160] And so I feel like I'm learning something. [01:27:17.160 --> 01:27:18.160] Wonderful. [01:27:18.160 --> 01:27:20.160] Well, good for you, Charlie. [01:27:20.160 --> 01:27:26.160] I heard your call on Frederick Grave's show a little while ago, and that was just great. [01:27:26.160 --> 01:27:30.160] I mean, it's people like you that were doing these shows, so that was good to hear. [01:27:30.160 --> 01:27:35.160] I mean, you just started coming across this information, and you've taken charge. [01:27:35.160 --> 01:27:36.160] You're taking responsibility. [01:27:36.160 --> 01:27:37.160] You ordered jurisdictionary. [01:27:37.160 --> 01:27:42.160] You're learning things right away, so good for you. [01:27:42.160 --> 01:27:47.160] And I think that's the most important thing to understand, that this isn't that terribly [01:27:47.160 --> 01:27:48.160] difficult. [01:27:48.160 --> 01:27:56.160] You get kind of a basic understanding of what's going on, and you can kind of duke it out [01:27:56.160 --> 01:27:59.160] with the best of them. [01:27:59.160 --> 01:28:01.160] People seem to think it's terribly complex. [01:28:01.160 --> 01:28:04.160] Well, it's not that difficult. [01:28:04.160 --> 01:28:08.160] Well, in my mind, some of it, I get confused, and I think it's so difficult. [01:28:08.160 --> 01:28:12.160] But like I say, when I start telling other people the things I know, I found myself, [01:28:12.160 --> 01:28:15.160] it's like those existing questions. [01:28:15.160 --> 01:28:16.160] Yes. [01:28:16.160 --> 01:28:17.160] See? [01:28:17.160 --> 01:28:18.160] It doesn't take long. [01:28:18.160 --> 01:28:19.160] See? [01:28:19.160 --> 01:28:22.160] It doesn't take long. [01:28:22.160 --> 01:28:25.160] I start to understand how much I've been abused. [01:28:25.160 --> 01:28:32.160] Well, the other thing it will do is cause you to realize that there really is something [01:28:32.160 --> 01:28:39.160] you can do about it, and that is the one thing that will absolutely set you free. [01:28:39.160 --> 01:28:41.160] It's what it's done for me. [01:28:41.160 --> 01:28:48.160] I may not always win, but when they get done with me, they're not ever going to want to [01:28:48.160 --> 01:28:53.160] go there again, and that's what makes it all worthwhile. [01:28:53.160 --> 01:28:54.160] So go ahead, Charlie. [01:28:54.160 --> 01:28:55.160] What was your question? [01:28:55.160 --> 01:29:03.160] Well, one of the things I'm confused about still, well, when I say still, like I said, [01:29:03.160 --> 01:29:05.160] I've only been doing this for a couple of months. [01:29:05.160 --> 01:29:11.160] But one of the things I wanted to ask, Debra, you said something earlier, that if you tune [01:29:11.160 --> 01:29:18.160] in to your thing on the computer, I don't know that much about this, then you get credits [01:29:18.160 --> 01:29:19.160] or something, right? [01:29:19.160 --> 01:29:26.160] Yes, yes, because what happens is the streams get logged on the streaming server, and that [01:29:26.160 --> 01:29:32.160] gets reported to Shoutcast, and it's public information, and so it's accurate, and so [01:29:32.160 --> 01:29:38.160] yeah, anyone can go on Shoutcast right now and see how many streams we're pulling. [01:29:38.160 --> 01:29:41.160] So yeah, please pull the stream. [01:29:41.160 --> 01:29:48.160] Well, I feel kind of like a scab then, because what I do is I listen to your shows over and [01:29:48.160 --> 01:29:51.160] over, so I'm always like a week or two behind you, Pat. [01:29:51.160 --> 01:29:55.160] That's okay, because if you're on podcasts, hang on right there, and I'll explain a little [01:29:55.160 --> 01:29:56.160] bit more about it on the other side. [01:29:56.160 --> 01:29:57.160] We're going to break. [01:29:57.160 --> 01:30:05.160] We'll be right back. 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[01:33:45.160 --> 01:33:50.160] Thank you. [01:34:15.160 --> 01:34:17.160] Thank you. [01:34:45.160 --> 01:34:59.160] Thank you. [01:34:59.160 --> 01:35:14.160] Thank you. [01:35:14.160 --> 01:35:17.800] If I subscribe to the podcast through iTunes is what I use, [01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:19.520] you get credit for that. [01:35:19.520 --> 01:35:21.600] Absolutely, yes I do. [01:35:22.460 --> 01:35:25.240] Yes I do because it all goes back to my, [01:35:25.240 --> 01:35:27.380] it all goes back to my FeedBurner page. [01:35:28.480 --> 01:35:32.200] Okay, great, so I download all your shows. [01:35:32.200 --> 01:35:33.880] Oh, thank you, Charlie. [01:35:35.040 --> 01:35:37.520] And Charlie, if you're downloading all my shows [01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:39.360] and going through the archives like that, [01:35:39.360 --> 01:35:42.880] I'd appreciate it if you would set yourself up [01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:45.200] on the WordPress page where the archives are [01:35:45.200 --> 01:35:48.080] and go in and log in and make little comments [01:35:48.080 --> 01:35:49.600] and descriptions and such. [01:35:50.640 --> 01:35:51.560] On the what page? [01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:54.440] On the page where I post the archive, [01:35:54.440 --> 01:35:56.320] where I actually post the archives [01:35:56.320 --> 01:35:59.240] for people to go look at them, like see the links. [01:35:59.240 --> 01:36:03.620] And there's a word, if you go to the ruleoflawradio.com [01:36:03.620 --> 01:36:05.960] and you click on the archive button [01:36:05.960 --> 01:36:08.680] and then it'll pull up a page with some, you know, [01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:11.320] old school looking kind of filing cabinets, okay? [01:36:11.320 --> 01:36:13.200] And then you click on the bottom, [01:36:13.200 --> 01:36:16.080] the one on the bottom right-hand corner [01:36:16.080 --> 01:36:18.600] will go to the WordPress page [01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:22.080] where I actually make entries [01:36:22.080 --> 01:36:25.320] and post the links to the archives. [01:36:25.320 --> 01:36:30.320] And you can register yourself as a user [01:36:31.440 --> 01:36:33.980] and then you can go in and make posts [01:36:33.980 --> 01:36:36.980] and make comments on the archives. [01:36:36.980 --> 01:36:38.960] And it will really help me if people out there [01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:39.960] would do that. [01:36:39.960 --> 01:36:41.560] And when I ask that, [01:36:41.560 --> 01:36:45.960] please don't write a four page story, okay? [01:36:45.960 --> 01:36:48.400] I mean, and I've gotten people criticizing me [01:36:48.400 --> 01:36:52.960] because I censor or moderate the comments [01:36:52.960 --> 01:36:54.000] on the archive page. [01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:55.440] Well, yeah, I'm going to. [01:36:55.440 --> 01:36:57.600] It's not a forum, okay? [01:36:57.600 --> 01:37:01.000] It's my personal blog for Rule of Law Radio [01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:02.800] to post the archives. [01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:05.200] If you wanna rant and rail, [01:37:05.200 --> 01:37:08.600] then sign up to be a member on the forum [01:37:08.600 --> 01:37:10.680] and then you can basically do whatever you want [01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:14.160] as long as it's not threatening or obscene, okay? [01:37:14.160 --> 01:37:16.280] Or flame warning or whatever. [01:37:16.280 --> 01:37:19.880] But do not write four page stories [01:37:19.880 --> 01:37:21.960] as your comment on the archives page. [01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:24.520] I will not let it go through, all right? [01:37:24.520 --> 01:37:27.440] And you can't write your personal narrative [01:37:27.440 --> 01:37:31.320] about your case as a comment on the archive page [01:37:31.320 --> 01:37:33.180] and expect me to let that go through either. [01:37:33.180 --> 01:37:34.640] The only comments I'm gonna let go through [01:37:34.640 --> 01:37:37.600] on the archive page are actual comments on the archives [01:37:37.600 --> 01:37:40.440] and short descriptions of the archives, okay? [01:37:40.440 --> 01:37:41.920] That's so people can look at that [01:37:41.920 --> 01:37:44.280] and kind of know what the show is about. [01:37:44.280 --> 01:37:45.200] What the hell? [01:37:45.200 --> 01:37:47.160] That page is for the archives [01:37:47.160 --> 01:37:49.520] and for people to know what the shows are about [01:37:49.520 --> 01:37:51.400] so they'll say, ooh, that sounds interesting, [01:37:51.400 --> 01:37:52.800] I wanna listen to that one. [01:37:53.720 --> 01:37:55.520] Okay, so Charlie, if you would do that for me, [01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:57.720] that would really be very much appreciated [01:37:57.720 --> 01:37:59.200] because I don't have time to go through [01:37:59.200 --> 01:38:00.720] and describe all the archives. [01:38:02.040 --> 01:38:04.760] I'll certainly do that and I'll look at that. [01:38:04.760 --> 01:38:07.320] It's beyond me where you get the time to do all this stuff. [01:38:07.320 --> 01:38:11.240] That's the problem, we're both running out. [01:38:11.240 --> 01:38:12.680] Right, yeah. [01:38:12.680 --> 01:38:13.520] And now that I've- [01:38:13.520 --> 01:38:15.240] I'll tell you. [01:38:15.240 --> 01:38:16.080] Go ahead. [01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:18.520] No, no, go ahead. [01:38:18.520 --> 01:38:20.920] Well, I was just gonna say, yeah, it's very time consuming [01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:22.480] but now that I've got all the equipment set up [01:38:22.480 --> 01:38:24.360] and the automation just about, [01:38:24.360 --> 01:38:27.140] I'll have time to actually promote this thing [01:38:27.140 --> 01:38:30.180] because we need promotion, we need marketing and promotion. [01:38:30.180 --> 01:38:33.000] I mean, me and Randy are doing all this by ourselves. [01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:35.160] I'm the one that's doing everything on the technical end. [01:38:35.160 --> 01:38:37.400] I mean, basically it's a one-man job, [01:38:37.400 --> 01:38:39.360] there's nothing he could do to help anyway [01:38:39.360 --> 01:38:41.520] and he's got other things he's busy with, [01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:43.680] these cases and clients and all this, [01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:45.280] his beer fund and all that kind of stuff. [01:38:45.280 --> 01:38:47.240] I could have supervised but she wouldn't let me. [01:38:47.240 --> 01:38:49.280] Yeah, yeah, but at any rate now, [01:38:49.280 --> 01:38:52.200] I mean, now we don't have a promotion team [01:38:52.200 --> 01:38:54.360] or an advertising team or a marketing team. [01:38:54.360 --> 01:38:56.280] So now that I've got everything set up, [01:38:56.280 --> 01:38:58.020] then now I'm gonna be spending my time [01:38:58.020 --> 01:39:00.440] trying to promote and market this thing. [01:39:00.440 --> 01:39:02.880] So yeah, all the help I could get, [01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:05.400] I mean, that would be very much appreciated. [01:39:05.400 --> 01:39:08.120] Descriptions of the archives would be great. [01:39:08.120 --> 01:39:10.880] Okay, listen, one of the things [01:39:10.880 --> 01:39:15.640] that I have difficulties with still, [01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:18.040] because I'm just still too new to this [01:39:18.040 --> 01:39:20.800] and I would suppose other people do too is [01:39:20.800 --> 01:39:24.360] it's just the hierarchy of a whole scheme. [01:39:24.360 --> 01:39:28.520] I'm just not, I just can't seem to, [01:39:28.520 --> 01:39:31.000] from the Supreme Court down to the state court [01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:35.880] down to the civil court, down to the criminal court. [01:39:35.880 --> 01:39:38.880] It's just, I'm still lacking on all that [01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:41.760] but I'm not gonna hold you up [01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:43.480] and have you answer that right now [01:39:43.480 --> 01:39:48.040] but I did call you guys specifically for a reason right now [01:39:49.320 --> 01:39:52.920] but I would want some information about that [01:39:52.920 --> 01:39:54.600] that seems to elude me [01:39:54.600 --> 01:39:57.680] and I kind of feel like I'm on that show, [01:39:57.680 --> 01:40:00.880] what is that, are you smarter than a fifth grader sometimes? [01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:05.880] I don't think that I am but it just so happens that [01:40:07.640 --> 01:40:11.160] and I said to Randy, you're showing email, [01:40:11.160 --> 01:40:16.080] right now in my specific thing that I'm dealing with, [01:40:16.080 --> 01:40:17.600] which is kind of small, [01:40:21.120 --> 01:40:26.120] I did my taxes late because the state owed me in Missouri, [01:40:26.520 --> 01:40:30.840] they owed me like $900 and so they sent me back [01:40:30.840 --> 01:40:33.760] a notification saying that, [01:40:35.320 --> 01:40:36.760] because I did it online, [01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:41.760] I didn't send them my WSUs and my 1099s, the hard copies. [01:40:41.960 --> 01:40:45.080] So they said I needed to send them those things. [01:40:45.080 --> 01:40:49.120] Well, because I'm a procrastinator, [01:40:49.120 --> 01:40:51.720] probably like 95% of the population, [01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:56.200] I didn't do anything and then the next thing I know, [01:40:56.200 --> 01:41:00.240] I get a letter from them saying that my 60 days has expired, [01:41:00.240 --> 01:41:03.400] I got a 10 day letter of demand to pay them $500 [01:41:03.400 --> 01:41:07.000] that they say I owe them because I didn't send that. [01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:10.840] And I'm just wondering, I looked at the statute [01:41:12.360 --> 01:41:14.440] and I don't see that there's any leniency on that [01:41:14.440 --> 01:41:17.240] because I didn't respond to them in 60 days [01:41:17.240 --> 01:41:21.800] rather than them owing me $900, I owe them $500. [01:41:21.800 --> 01:41:24.520] Is there anywhere I can go on that, should I wait? [01:41:24.520 --> 01:41:27.040] Is that state, this is state income taxes [01:41:27.040 --> 01:41:28.720] you're talking about? [01:41:28.720 --> 01:41:29.560] Yes, it is. [01:41:29.560 --> 01:41:30.400] Okay. [01:41:30.400 --> 01:41:31.760] It would take somebody in Missouri [01:41:31.760 --> 01:41:34.600] because if they owe you money, [01:41:34.600 --> 01:41:38.040] if the IRS owes you money and you don't file, [01:41:38.040 --> 01:41:40.880] they don't care, cool, not a problem. [01:41:42.040 --> 01:41:45.240] Yeah, you might wanna look up, [01:41:45.240 --> 01:41:47.520] well, I do have state criminal procedure code [01:41:47.520 --> 01:41:51.800] and penal codes, but yeah, go online [01:41:51.800 --> 01:41:56.800] and find the income tax statutes for Missouri [01:41:56.800 --> 01:42:00.040] and read through it and see what you can find in there [01:42:00.040 --> 01:42:01.280] and you might wanna talk to someone in Missouri [01:42:01.280 --> 01:42:04.480] because we certainly are not experts on income tax code [01:42:04.480 --> 01:42:06.840] of every single state in the union here. [01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:09.320] And I did respond to that email and said, [01:42:09.320 --> 01:42:10.720] that would be a really good thing [01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:13.320] to get some good experience from, just fight them. [01:42:13.320 --> 01:42:14.720] Yeah, yeah. [01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:15.760] Yeah, that's what you told me [01:42:15.760 --> 01:42:18.560] and it's kind of a small thing and well, [01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:22.520] they said if I didn't respond and after, [01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:24.880] I guess I didn't respond in 60 days to them, [01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:28.920] they owed me 900, I didn't respond to them in 60 days. [01:42:28.920 --> 01:42:31.320] So they say, I owe them 500 [01:42:31.320 --> 01:42:32.480] so they didn't get those things. [01:42:32.480 --> 01:42:35.120] They say because I didn't respond in 60 days, [01:42:35.120 --> 01:42:36.640] their determination is final. [01:42:36.640 --> 01:42:39.640] Well, maybe, maybe not, but I mean, it's not a small thing. [01:42:39.640 --> 01:42:42.720] We're talking a $1,400 discrepancy for you [01:42:42.720 --> 01:42:46.120] because if you lose the, you're not only losing the 900, [01:42:46.120 --> 01:42:47.760] but then you're having to pay another five, [01:42:47.760 --> 01:42:49.240] that's 1,400 bucks right there. [01:42:49.240 --> 01:42:51.280] So it's certainly worth pursuing. [01:42:51.280 --> 01:42:53.840] But listen, Charlie, we only have like 15 minutes left [01:42:53.840 --> 01:42:55.720] and we have a whole heap of callers. [01:42:55.720 --> 01:42:58.440] Can you call back in on Thursday, please? [01:42:58.440 --> 01:43:00.200] Yeah, I'll call back in the meantime, [01:43:00.200 --> 01:43:03.280] think about trying to give us more descriptive analysis [01:43:03.280 --> 01:43:05.200] of the hierarchy of the whole scheme. [01:43:05.200 --> 01:43:08.160] I mean, I don't know if I'm the only one confused on that, [01:43:08.160 --> 01:43:09.960] but I appreciate it. [01:43:09.960 --> 01:43:11.800] I'll throw something in there for you, Charlie. [01:43:11.800 --> 01:43:15.560] Basically, what you've got is an administrative decision [01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:18.400] and you're gonna have to look at the code, [01:43:18.400 --> 01:43:21.720] the tax code like Randy and Deborah said for Missouri. [01:43:21.720 --> 01:43:25.160] But in general, anytime there's an administrative decision [01:43:25.160 --> 01:43:29.520] made, the decision here is you didn't return something [01:43:29.520 --> 01:43:30.920] so they're fining you. [01:43:30.920 --> 01:43:32.520] There's a right to appeal it. [01:43:32.520 --> 01:43:35.600] And so what you need to look at is the right to appeal it [01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:38.520] and the time period is usually relatively short, [01:43:38.520 --> 01:43:40.200] like 30 days. [01:43:40.200 --> 01:43:41.040] Yeah. [01:43:41.040 --> 01:43:41.880] Yeah. [01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:44.120] And what Mark is referring to is appealing it [01:43:44.120 --> 01:43:46.920] into the actual court system because when it comes [01:43:46.920 --> 01:43:50.280] to fighting property taxes or any of these sorts of things [01:43:50.280 --> 01:43:54.240] that have to do where you're in an administrative situation, [01:43:54.240 --> 01:43:56.480] administrative hearings, administrative rulings, [01:43:56.480 --> 01:43:58.920] and yeah, their decision is final and blah, blah, blah. [01:43:58.920 --> 01:44:01.080] Generally, when you've completely exhausted [01:44:01.080 --> 01:44:03.760] all the administrative procedures that are laid out, [01:44:03.760 --> 01:44:06.080] then you can take your remedy into the court system. [01:44:06.080 --> 01:44:08.280] So you wanna look at that, but Mark is correct [01:44:08.280 --> 01:44:11.240] that generally the timeframe for appeal [01:44:11.240 --> 01:44:13.360] into the court system is short, like 30 days. [01:44:13.360 --> 01:44:18.360] That's what it is for property tax, you know, appeals. [01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:19.720] Right. [01:44:19.720 --> 01:44:20.880] In Texas. [01:44:20.880 --> 01:44:23.240] Yeah, and usually you're gonna have to make [01:44:23.240 --> 01:44:26.360] your first appeal to somewhere in the Department of Revenue [01:44:26.360 --> 01:44:29.520] from Missouri, I'm assuming that's the name of it. [01:44:29.520 --> 01:44:32.240] And then depending on how that appeal comes out, [01:44:32.240 --> 01:44:33.760] then you usually go into the court system. [01:44:33.760 --> 01:44:35.720] Right, so Charlie, why don't you do a little bit [01:44:35.720 --> 01:44:36.560] of homework and call us back. [01:44:36.560 --> 01:44:39.200] We really, really have to move on so that we can try [01:44:39.200 --> 01:44:42.480] to get to as many of these calls by 10 o'clock as we can. [01:44:42.480 --> 01:44:43.320] Thanks a lot. [01:44:43.320 --> 01:44:44.160] Okay, thank you. [01:44:44.160 --> 01:44:45.520] All right, we're gonna go now. [01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:49.120] I'm going to jump real quick to Mark in Wisconsin. [01:44:49.120 --> 01:44:51.600] He's broadcasting us in Madison. [01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:52.680] Mark, thanks for calling in. [01:44:52.680 --> 01:44:54.280] What's on your mind tonight? [01:44:54.280 --> 01:44:56.720] Hi, hi, I just wanted to ask Randy, [01:44:56.720 --> 01:44:59.440] what's the difference between a catfish and an attorney? [01:44:59.440 --> 01:45:00.280] Oh, boy. [01:45:01.360 --> 01:45:03.240] I don't know which one's slimier. [01:45:05.040 --> 01:45:07.640] One's a slimy scum sucking bottom feeder [01:45:08.960 --> 01:45:10.560] and one's a fish. [01:45:10.560 --> 01:45:15.560] Okay, Mark. [01:45:16.040 --> 01:45:17.040] I like that one. [01:45:17.040 --> 01:45:20.680] All right, what else you got for us, Mark? [01:45:20.680 --> 01:45:24.080] Oh, I got a guy who used to work for me. [01:45:24.080 --> 01:45:27.520] He just called me today and he said he got a $250 ticket [01:45:27.520 --> 01:45:30.200] for driving without a license and he wasn't in his car. [01:45:30.200 --> 01:45:32.160] Now, I usually don't handle this traffic stuff. [01:45:32.160 --> 01:45:33.560] What's the first thing you guys like to do [01:45:33.560 --> 01:45:35.040] with something like that? [01:45:35.040 --> 01:45:36.880] Wasn't in his car? [01:45:36.880 --> 01:45:39.480] No, he was actually pulled over working on his car. [01:45:41.480 --> 01:45:42.520] They gave him a ticket? [01:45:42.520 --> 01:45:43.360] Yeah, he gave him a ticket. [01:45:43.360 --> 01:45:45.360] I told him if he didn't see you driving, [01:45:45.360 --> 01:45:47.600] we're going to court and we're gonna bust him head. [01:45:47.600 --> 01:45:49.960] Right, I mean, because there's no, [01:45:49.960 --> 01:45:52.560] unless he admitted he was driving. [01:45:52.560 --> 01:45:54.120] Which he probably didn't. [01:45:54.120 --> 01:45:55.680] Well, it doesn't matter. [01:45:55.680 --> 01:45:58.360] Even then, yeah, because it wasn't witnessed by the cop [01:45:58.360 --> 01:46:03.360] and it's a non-criminal infraction generally [01:46:04.240 --> 01:46:05.880] is what they term a ticket. [01:46:05.880 --> 01:46:09.080] And it's below a misdemeanor and they have to witness you [01:46:09.080 --> 01:46:12.080] actually in the commission of an act like that. [01:46:12.080 --> 01:46:14.040] Also, he's Mexican, [01:46:14.040 --> 01:46:16.880] so I asked him if he got a DWH, too. [01:46:16.880 --> 01:46:18.680] And he didn't even know what that was. [01:46:20.160 --> 01:46:21.760] Driving while Hispanic? [01:46:21.760 --> 01:46:22.600] Yeah. [01:46:22.600 --> 01:46:25.040] Okay, okay, Mark. [01:46:26.840 --> 01:46:31.440] You might look at filing aggravated perjury [01:46:31.440 --> 01:46:34.080] and malicious prosecution against the officer. [01:46:35.320 --> 01:46:36.160] Okay. [01:46:36.160 --> 01:46:37.600] That'll get his attention. [01:46:37.600 --> 01:46:39.880] I still haven't broke down that door [01:46:39.880 --> 01:46:40.960] filing criminal charges. [01:46:40.960 --> 01:46:43.680] They won't take them from a private citizen yet, [01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:46.120] but I'm getting ready to file civil charges [01:46:46.120 --> 01:46:48.720] against the investigator who refused them last time. [01:46:50.120 --> 01:46:53.840] Does the, were you at Wisconsin again? [01:46:53.840 --> 01:46:54.680] Yeah. [01:46:54.680 --> 01:46:57.080] Does Wisconsin actually provide [01:46:57.080 --> 01:46:59.400] that only the prosecutor and attorney [01:46:59.400 --> 01:47:01.400] can file a criminal complaint? [01:47:01.400 --> 01:47:05.120] Well, no, it doesn't explicitly say that in the statutes, [01:47:05.120 --> 01:47:06.800] but they're pretending like it does. [01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:08.760] Okay, they do that everywhere. [01:47:08.760 --> 01:47:09.600] Yeah. [01:47:09.600 --> 01:47:11.960] It has to explicitly say that. [01:47:11.960 --> 01:47:15.520] This goes to the separation between you and them. [01:47:15.520 --> 01:47:16.360] No, it does not. [01:47:16.360 --> 01:47:18.480] I told you about the little dance he did last time. [01:47:18.480 --> 01:47:20.040] He goes, I'm not refusing. [01:47:20.040 --> 01:47:23.480] I'm just referring you to the state's attorney [01:47:23.480 --> 01:47:25.960] or to the, what do you call the biggest attorney [01:47:25.960 --> 01:47:26.800] in the state? [01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:27.640] Attorney general? [01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:28.480] Attorney general, yeah. [01:47:28.480 --> 01:47:32.560] And I don't even know if that guy's got prosecutorial charges. [01:47:32.560 --> 01:47:34.280] Anyway, I'm not even interested in going there. [01:47:34.280 --> 01:47:36.560] I'm interested in tuning him up. [01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:39.760] It's the police officer's duty to enforce the law. [01:47:40.640 --> 01:47:41.480] Right. [01:47:41.480 --> 01:47:44.760] If he referred you to someone else, that's malfeasance. [01:47:44.760 --> 01:47:45.600] Mm-mm. [01:47:47.120 --> 01:47:50.160] And malfeasance generally goes to official oppression. [01:47:50.160 --> 01:47:52.520] If the malfeasance denied you and your right [01:47:52.520 --> 01:47:55.240] to petition the court for redress of grievance. [01:47:55.240 --> 01:47:56.760] He'll just lie though, Randy. [01:47:56.760 --> 01:47:57.600] Who cares? [01:47:57.600 --> 01:47:58.420] I'm gonna have to go down there [01:47:58.420 --> 01:48:01.080] and ask for the same guy with some witnesses this next time. [01:48:01.080 --> 01:48:02.720] Oh no, what you need to do is go in there [01:48:02.720 --> 01:48:04.880] with a couple of people and a video camera. [01:48:04.880 --> 01:48:07.160] Someone videotaping you, interacting with them. [01:48:07.160 --> 01:48:08.000] No, you see, you don't- [01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:09.520] Don't allow that in the courthouse. [01:48:09.520 --> 01:48:10.800] It's okay if he lies. [01:48:10.800 --> 01:48:11.960] Who cares? [01:48:11.960 --> 01:48:14.040] Well, you have to get, you gotta walk up [01:48:14.040 --> 01:48:16.440] to the doors of the courthouse with a video rolling [01:48:16.440 --> 01:48:18.640] and have them tell you you can't bring the camera in [01:48:18.640 --> 01:48:21.440] because they've just committed a violation [01:48:21.440 --> 01:48:24.760] of the U.S.C. 242 if they say no. [01:48:24.760 --> 01:48:27.480] Yeah, we did that in Fort Lauderdale. [01:48:27.480 --> 01:48:28.320] Right. [01:48:28.320 --> 01:48:30.280] At the federal building, yep. [01:48:30.280 --> 01:48:33.960] Yeah, I mean, because that's a right freedom of press [01:48:33.960 --> 01:48:37.840] and freedom of public trials to always be able [01:48:37.840 --> 01:48:39.680] to bring a camera into the courthouse. [01:48:39.680 --> 01:48:42.080] Now, the feds want to keep people out [01:48:42.080 --> 01:48:44.560] and keep the public in the dark about the corruption [01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:46.360] that's going on in the federal courts. [01:48:46.360 --> 01:48:49.640] And a lot of the state courts are falling, you know, [01:48:49.640 --> 01:48:53.360] falling in line and taking advantage of the same stuff. [01:48:53.360 --> 01:48:55.520] But still, you know, at least try and walk up [01:48:55.520 --> 01:48:57.600] and walk in with the camera rolling [01:48:57.600 --> 01:49:00.400] and have someone tell you that you can't bring it in there [01:49:00.400 --> 01:49:03.280] and say, so you're violating my right to freedom of the press [01:49:03.280 --> 01:49:05.920] and the right to a public trial. [01:49:05.920 --> 01:49:08.680] And they'll go, oh, oh, oh, oh. [01:49:08.680 --> 01:49:11.680] I bushwhacked the federal magistrate and made her. [01:49:11.680 --> 01:49:15.040] I'm still waiting for my rule of law press pass. [01:49:15.040 --> 01:49:16.080] Need a photo. [01:49:16.080 --> 01:49:17.480] All right, listen, listen, Mark, [01:49:17.480 --> 01:49:18.400] do you have anything else quickly? [01:49:18.400 --> 01:49:19.440] Because we've got a bunch of callers. [01:49:19.440 --> 01:49:21.160] We've got like nine minutes left. [01:49:21.160 --> 01:49:22.000] Yeah, I was going to say, [01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:23.720] what's going on with this Mosley guy? [01:49:23.720 --> 01:49:28.720] That's Debra's, Mosley's fan club. [01:49:32.920 --> 01:49:37.240] Well, just one last note. [01:49:37.240 --> 01:49:40.480] If you can tune the language down a little bit, [01:49:40.480 --> 01:49:42.920] it's starting to sound like an Eddie Murphy standup. [01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:45.600] Are you talking about a couple of the callers? [01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:48.360] I'm talking about a couple of the hosts too. [01:49:48.360 --> 01:49:49.480] What hosts? [01:49:50.840 --> 01:49:52.720] There's you and- [01:49:52.720 --> 01:49:54.400] I never cussed on the air. [01:49:54.400 --> 01:49:55.400] There's Mr. Davis. [01:49:55.400 --> 01:49:57.520] I've got the archives. [01:49:57.520 --> 01:49:58.400] Don't even try it. [01:49:58.400 --> 01:49:59.440] Which one? [01:49:59.440 --> 01:50:00.320] Oh, wait a minute. [01:50:00.320 --> 01:50:03.200] Wait, are you talking about the after hours show [01:50:03.200 --> 01:50:05.920] that we did on the internet stream? [01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:06.760] Yeah. [01:50:06.760 --> 01:50:07.720] Well, that was not, [01:50:07.720 --> 01:50:10.560] that was after hours on the internet only. [01:50:10.560 --> 01:50:12.040] Hey, I'm innocent. [01:50:12.040 --> 01:50:14.000] I was so drunk. [01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:16.160] I had no idea what was going on. [01:50:16.160 --> 01:50:17.000] Yeah, yeah. [01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:20.160] Now when we're being broadcast live on the FMs, [01:50:20.160 --> 01:50:21.920] and now I have never cursed on the air, [01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:23.040] live on the FMs ever, [01:50:23.040 --> 01:50:26.440] but I mean, this is an after hours special edition. [01:50:26.440 --> 01:50:28.280] And I said one curse word. [01:50:28.280 --> 01:50:29.760] And yeah, I think you're right. [01:50:29.760 --> 01:50:31.560] Tony Davis did say something [01:50:31.560 --> 01:50:35.200] and we had a caller that did something last week as well. [01:50:35.200 --> 01:50:36.800] Okay, real quick, what I'm doing right now [01:50:36.800 --> 01:50:39.320] is I want people to go to Craig's List [01:50:39.320 --> 01:50:43.960] and put up rule of law radio free legal advice. [01:50:43.960 --> 01:50:45.280] Okay, whatever state you're in, [01:50:45.280 --> 01:50:49.760] because they only let you do one post on one certain subject. [01:50:49.760 --> 01:50:52.480] And if we start hitting the big cities with this, [01:50:52.480 --> 01:50:53.480] you're gonna get a lot of calls. [01:50:53.480 --> 01:50:55.880] I realize you don't give legal advice, [01:50:55.880 --> 01:50:56.960] but if you put that up, [01:50:56.960 --> 01:50:58.680] you're gonna start hauling in some numbers. [01:50:58.680 --> 01:51:00.000] And I'm looking at your numbers right now. [01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:01.480] You're probably running fourth or fifth. [01:51:01.480 --> 01:51:03.000] You guys are really climbing fast. [01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:03.840] Okay, great. [01:51:03.840 --> 01:51:04.680] Excellent. [01:51:04.680 --> 01:51:08.640] When we do special after hours internet only streams [01:51:08.640 --> 01:51:10.640] in the future, if there's any language, [01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:13.120] I will make a comment on the archive page [01:51:13.120 --> 01:51:15.040] so that people who are downloading the archives [01:51:15.040 --> 01:51:17.800] and broadcasting them on FMs will get a heads up. [01:51:17.800 --> 01:51:18.840] So I am sorry about that. [01:51:18.840 --> 01:51:21.440] But if we ever do after hours editions like that [01:51:21.440 --> 01:51:25.960] that are not on the regular schedule of the FMs, [01:51:25.960 --> 01:51:28.280] I can't promise that it's gonna be totally clean, [01:51:28.280 --> 01:51:33.280] but I will make a post on it so that you'll know. [01:51:33.280 --> 01:51:37.200] I mean, the way that real professional radio stations [01:51:37.200 --> 01:51:41.240] run this thing is they have a 45 second delay [01:51:41.240 --> 01:51:45.120] on their stream and they've got yet another engineer [01:51:45.120 --> 01:51:47.520] that listens specifically just for that. [01:51:47.520 --> 01:51:48.760] That's his only job. [01:51:48.760 --> 01:51:53.040] And then they take the stream, rewind it, [01:51:53.040 --> 01:51:57.400] and then they beep over it before that 45 seconds is up [01:51:57.400 --> 01:52:00.000] so that when it goes out live on the air, there's a beep. [01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:02.200] Okay, so listen. [01:52:02.200 --> 01:52:03.840] I mean, this kind of thing takes equipment [01:52:03.840 --> 01:52:04.880] and people and everything, [01:52:04.880 --> 01:52:07.560] but I will mention something to Tony and callers. [01:52:07.560 --> 01:52:09.480] Please keep it toned down with the language [01:52:09.480 --> 01:52:12.280] because listen, we are going out live on the air [01:52:12.280 --> 01:52:13.320] with no delay. [01:52:13.320 --> 01:52:16.240] So give us a break because we're on eight FM stations [01:52:16.240 --> 01:52:17.600] and two AM stations [01:52:17.600 --> 01:52:19.600] and we're trying to keep our credibility here. [01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:22.080] If you don't bleep watch the bleeping language, [01:52:22.080 --> 01:52:23.640] I'll bleep and bleep and bleep, please. [01:52:23.640 --> 01:52:24.480] Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:52:24.480 --> 01:52:25.440] All right, Randy, all right. [01:52:25.440 --> 01:52:26.600] Listen, we need to move on [01:52:26.600 --> 01:52:28.680] because we got like three other callers. [01:52:28.680 --> 01:52:30.280] I like to listen to you live, [01:52:30.280 --> 01:52:31.600] but I can't screen everything. [01:52:31.600 --> 01:52:34.120] If you put notes on the archives, that would be great, [01:52:34.120 --> 01:52:35.760] but anyway, you guys are doing a great job. [01:52:35.760 --> 01:52:36.600] Good night. [01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:37.440] Thank you. [01:52:37.440 --> 01:52:39.520] Wait a minute, Mark, do you stream us live? [01:52:39.520 --> 01:52:40.360] Yes, I do. [01:52:40.360 --> 01:52:41.840] Okay, so like I said, [01:52:41.840 --> 01:52:46.320] I will do everything I can to make notes. [01:52:46.320 --> 01:52:47.240] Sometimes I forget. [01:52:47.240 --> 01:52:50.960] I mean, I'm doing 10 million jobs here [01:52:50.960 --> 01:52:53.240] and so I can't always remember, but. [01:52:53.240 --> 01:52:55.000] No, I'm just putting suggestions out there. [01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:56.440] Okay, all right, thanks. [01:52:56.440 --> 01:52:58.040] Okay, we gotta move on quickly. [01:52:58.040 --> 01:53:00.760] We got Steven from Montana. [01:53:00.760 --> 01:53:02.200] Steven, thanks for calling in. [01:53:02.200 --> 01:53:03.600] What's on your mind tonight? [01:53:04.960 --> 01:53:08.000] I recently had a friend just went into jail [01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:11.440] and I want to try to use Randy's habeas. [01:53:11.440 --> 01:53:13.600] I think that would work for Montana. [01:53:15.040 --> 01:53:17.000] You'd have to look at Montana law. [01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:21.440] Now the habeas for the most part follows the federal law. [01:53:21.440 --> 01:53:22.280] Okay. [01:53:22.280 --> 01:53:23.120] But take the habeas. [01:53:23.120 --> 01:53:25.800] I'm converting your Texas law into Montana law. [01:53:25.800 --> 01:53:28.160] Yeah, that shouldn't be very difficult. [01:53:28.160 --> 01:53:31.280] Well, it kind of is because your law is way better [01:53:31.280 --> 01:53:33.400] rather than as specific as yours is. [01:53:34.360 --> 01:53:36.800] Like as far as the unnecessary delay, [01:53:36.800 --> 01:53:37.640] that's all it says. [01:53:37.640 --> 01:53:40.400] Just with unnecessary delay, it doesn't get to 48 hours. [01:53:40.400 --> 01:53:42.840] Well, okay, that's good enough [01:53:42.840 --> 01:53:46.040] because the federal law is real explicit [01:53:46.040 --> 01:53:47.880] about what unnecessary delay is. [01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:52.440] And what it goes to is the officer has to, [01:53:52.440 --> 01:53:57.240] if they can't show cause for the delay, it's unnecessary. [01:53:58.200 --> 01:54:00.680] And what is most likely happening, [01:54:00.680 --> 01:54:02.680] what's happening everywhere else [01:54:02.680 --> 01:54:06.400] is the delay is a matter of policy. [01:54:06.400 --> 01:54:08.040] Right, well, he didn't get in until, [01:54:08.040 --> 01:54:12.960] well, he went to jail Friday and then Monday was the holiday [01:54:12.960 --> 01:54:14.200] and he didn't get to see, [01:54:14.200 --> 01:54:17.800] or his arraignment, I guess you call it, until Tuesday. [01:54:17.800 --> 01:54:21.520] Yeah, and there's, that's case law right on that point. [01:54:21.520 --> 01:54:26.520] It was during the race riots, the mid-60s, [01:54:26.720 --> 01:54:31.720] a bunch of people arrested in a riot or in a demonstration, [01:54:31.880 --> 01:54:36.440] held over the weekend, brought before the magistrate Monday [01:54:36.440 --> 01:54:39.800] and the courts ruled that that was not acceptable. [01:54:39.800 --> 01:54:40.640] Okay. [01:54:40.640 --> 01:54:41.680] That they couldn't just sit around [01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:43.240] and wait till the weekend was over. [01:54:43.240 --> 01:54:45.600] They had to go make a due diligent effort [01:54:45.600 --> 01:54:46.920] to locate a magistrate. [01:54:48.040 --> 01:54:50.440] Yeah, I think the general rule is 24 hours. [01:54:50.440 --> 01:54:54.080] Actually, what that goes to is prima facie. [01:54:55.440 --> 01:54:59.600] If they get you, here it's 24, in Texas it's 24, [01:54:59.600 --> 01:55:04.600] in Las Vegas it was 48. [01:55:06.280 --> 01:55:09.320] But if they get you there within that time limit, [01:55:09.320 --> 01:55:12.120] then on the face of it, the taking was timely. [01:55:12.120 --> 01:55:15.880] And if you maintain it wasn't, you have to show cause [01:55:15.880 --> 01:55:17.840] as to why they could have got you there sooner. [01:55:17.840 --> 01:55:20.520] If it's after that time, then they have to show cause [01:55:20.520 --> 01:55:21.600] for the delay. [01:55:21.600 --> 01:55:26.480] But actually there is no set time limit. [01:55:26.480 --> 01:55:29.560] An officer's only defense against an allegation [01:55:29.560 --> 01:55:32.880] of false imprisonment for failure to timely take [01:55:32.880 --> 01:55:35.520] is a showing of due diligence and effort to locate. [01:55:36.520 --> 01:55:39.440] First thing this guy should do is ask for the names [01:55:39.440 --> 01:55:41.440] of all the magistrates in the county [01:55:41.440 --> 01:55:43.520] and contact information. [01:55:43.520 --> 01:55:47.320] Do it in writing, the police department will send you back [01:55:47.320 --> 01:55:49.400] a letter saying they don't have that list [01:55:49.400 --> 01:55:51.280] and they don't have to create it. [01:55:51.280 --> 01:55:53.360] That's proof that not only did they not try [01:55:53.360 --> 01:55:55.240] to find the magistrate, they don't even know [01:55:55.240 --> 01:55:56.520] who the heck they are. [01:55:58.080 --> 01:56:00.120] All right, listen, we've got a bunch of callers too. [01:56:00.120 --> 01:56:03.640] So anything else, Steven? [01:56:03.640 --> 01:56:04.800] Yeah, just one quick question. [01:56:04.800 --> 01:56:07.360] Well, I was kind of, I warned all the jailers [01:56:07.360 --> 01:56:09.480] and I told them that they have to find a magistrate. [01:56:09.480 --> 01:56:12.440] Before he got in there and I even told him [01:56:12.440 --> 01:56:13.280] about the arresting officer, [01:56:13.280 --> 01:56:14.600] they have to find him a magistrate. [01:56:14.600 --> 01:56:15.440] Well, none of them did. [01:56:15.440 --> 01:56:17.160] They yelled at me, hung up on me. [01:56:17.160 --> 01:56:20.120] And then Tuesday, he went into court [01:56:20.120 --> 01:56:24.080] and then of course the jailers came up with that, [01:56:24.080 --> 01:56:25.720] said that I was harassing them. [01:56:25.720 --> 01:56:26.840] And he said, no. [01:56:26.840 --> 01:56:28.960] Told them they had nothing to do with the arresting person. [01:56:28.960 --> 01:56:30.760] So that's what that was. [01:56:30.760 --> 01:56:32.960] So then Wednesday I went to the, [01:56:32.960 --> 01:56:35.440] I just called down in the clerk's office [01:56:35.440 --> 01:56:38.000] and I found the law and it says all dockets [01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:40.520] should be available for inspection [01:56:43.200 --> 01:56:44.840] to the public without charge. [01:56:44.840 --> 01:56:47.240] Now does that mean that, [01:56:47.240 --> 01:56:48.480] because I was trying to set them up with that, [01:56:48.480 --> 01:56:50.760] hoping that they just forwarded it to the district attorney [01:56:50.760 --> 01:56:53.080] or whatever and didn't have the file. [01:56:53.080 --> 01:56:55.240] Well, I called them up and asked them [01:56:55.240 --> 01:56:57.600] if I could come down and get a certified copy. [01:56:57.600 --> 01:57:01.040] And the lady's like, well, you have to come down here. [01:57:01.040 --> 01:57:02.600] And then she stopped. [01:57:02.600 --> 01:57:04.360] And she goes, look, hold on a minute. [01:57:04.360 --> 01:57:07.720] So then, then she came back and the judge goes, [01:57:07.720 --> 01:57:09.040] or she goes, well, I just talked to the judge. [01:57:09.040 --> 01:57:12.040] The judge says that we can't give those out until [01:57:12.040 --> 01:57:13.720] after conviction. [01:57:13.720 --> 01:57:16.080] Okay, I go down there and okay. [01:57:16.080 --> 01:57:17.960] All courts are public. [01:57:17.960 --> 01:57:20.560] Every state in the union, [01:57:20.560 --> 01:57:22.680] it's in federal constitution [01:57:22.680 --> 01:57:25.720] and all the state constitutions have to follow that. [01:57:25.720 --> 01:57:27.880] Doesn't fall under open records. [01:57:27.880 --> 01:57:29.600] It falls under public court. [01:57:30.840 --> 01:57:32.440] I go down, ask to see the records. [01:57:32.440 --> 01:57:34.760] They give me any CREPOLA, dial 9-1-1. [01:57:35.640 --> 01:57:38.360] But they can give me a certified copy. [01:57:38.360 --> 01:57:40.960] Yeah, certified copy you have to pay for. [01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:42.960] Okay, but just for inspection. [01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:45.640] But you can inspect, it doesn't cost anything. [01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:47.400] Okay, and I can just like take my camera out [01:57:47.400 --> 01:57:48.240] and picture it? [01:57:50.000 --> 01:57:51.520] Yeah, generally it says that, [01:57:51.520 --> 01:57:54.960] but I have had Fort Worth get real excited about that. [01:57:54.960 --> 01:57:57.360] And they threw me out in the street over that. [01:57:58.880 --> 01:58:01.080] It wasn't a fight I wanted to have at the time. [01:58:01.080 --> 01:58:02.960] I was in Vegas just recently [01:58:02.960 --> 01:58:05.640] and I wanted to see the actual physical file. [01:58:05.640 --> 01:58:07.880] And they said, well, you can't see that. [01:58:07.880 --> 01:58:10.640] Yes, ma'am, I can. [01:58:10.640 --> 01:58:13.920] Well, we don't have the staff. [01:58:13.920 --> 01:58:16.120] Your problem, not my problem. [01:58:17.080 --> 01:58:18.560] Yeah, well, if it's a judge's order, [01:58:18.560 --> 01:58:20.720] then would that be conspiracy between the two of them? [01:58:20.720 --> 01:58:22.600] I just filed criminal charges against the judge. [01:58:22.600 --> 01:58:24.800] I would love to do that. [01:58:24.800 --> 01:58:25.640] Okay. [01:58:25.640 --> 01:58:28.480] If you can get a judge to screw up, wonderful. [01:58:28.480 --> 01:58:30.280] All right, listen, we're at the end of the show. [01:58:30.280 --> 01:58:33.600] We have to go, we're going off the air. [01:58:33.600 --> 01:58:37.080] And so I'm sorry, we can't take any more calls. [01:58:37.080 --> 01:58:39.040] We got Randy from Austin, Mike from Texas, [01:58:39.040 --> 01:58:40.640] Jerry from Texas, another caller [01:58:40.640 --> 01:58:43.200] that hasn't even been screened yet. [01:58:43.200 --> 01:58:44.920] Daniel was hanging on as well. [01:58:44.920 --> 01:58:46.720] We really do appreciate all the calls. [01:58:46.720 --> 01:58:48.800] Listeners, please call back in on Thursday. [01:58:48.800 --> 01:58:51.520] This is the rule of law on rule of law radio. [01:58:51.520 --> 01:58:54.680] And Mark, I know someone who is running [01:58:54.680 --> 01:58:56.760] an internet talk radio station. [01:58:56.760 --> 01:58:59.440] And he manages, he's got something set up for beeps. [01:58:59.440 --> 01:59:01.280] So I'll try to look into that. [01:59:01.280 --> 01:59:04.280] Okay, so in the meantime, callers have some respect. [01:59:04.280 --> 01:59:06.360] We'll be back on Thursday night. [01:59:06.360 --> 01:59:11.360] Beep beep. [01:59:36.360 --> 01:59:40.960] I'm dangerous, I'm dangerous. [01:59:40.960 --> 01:59:44.960] I'm like a jumping razor, don't watch my side. [01:59:44.960 --> 01:59:47.960] I'm dangerous, dangerous. [01:59:47.960 --> 01:59:50.960] When you eat, I fall. [01:59:50.960 --> 01:59:54.960] When you dream, keep cool. [01:59:54.960 --> 02:00:09.960] If you dream, let's lose.