[00:00.000 --> 00:05.040]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[00:05.040 --> 00:08.520]  In Iraq, a U.S. soldier was killed by a roadside bomb in Baghdad.
[00:08.520 --> 00:11.560]  In Mosul, gunmen killed three Iraqi policemen.
[00:11.560 --> 00:16.760]  Over the weekend, at least nine Iraqis were killed, with 11 more wounded across the country.
[00:16.760 --> 00:21.840]  As the Palestinian death toll passes 900, the United States has blocked approval of
[00:21.840 --> 00:27.120]  a United Nations Security Council resolution calling for a ceasefire between Israel and
[00:27.120 --> 00:28.120]  Hamas.
[00:28.120 --> 00:33.040]  Meanwhile, the U.S. Congress has pledged nearly unanimous support for Israel's war
[00:33.040 --> 00:38.020]  with House Speaker Harry Reid calling it, quote, the will of the American people.
[00:38.020 --> 00:44.080]  The Pentagon plans to deliver more weapons to Israel in anticipation of a prolonged military
[00:44.080 --> 00:45.440]  campaign in Gaza.
[00:45.440 --> 00:50.280]  This news brief brought to you by the International News Net.
[00:50.280 --> 00:55.920]  Barack Obama has appointed William Lynn III, a defense contractor's lobbyist, to become
[00:55.920 --> 00:58.720]  the number two official at the Defense Department.
[00:58.720 --> 01:04.600]  Lynn, a former Pentagon official until July, was a well-known lobbyist for defense giant
[01:04.600 --> 01:06.120]  Raytheon.
[01:06.120 --> 01:13.920]  In the first three months of 2008, his lobbying team reported spending $1.15 million to influence
[01:13.920 --> 01:20.520]  issues including missiles, sensors and radar, advanced technology programs, and intelligence
[01:20.520 --> 01:21.520]  funding.
[01:21.520 --> 01:27.080]  Heavy lobbying has led to perennial charges of influence peddling.
[01:27.080 --> 01:31.560]  Raytheon contributed nearly $1 million to various defense-related political campaigns
[01:31.560 --> 01:38.760]  in the 2004 presidential election year, spending much more than that on lobbying expenses.
[01:38.760 --> 01:44.080]  Lynn's appointment underscores a common revolving door scenario in Washington and appears at
[01:44.080 --> 01:50.480]  odds with Obama's repeated campaign promises to distance his administration from corporate
[01:50.480 --> 01:51.480]  influence peddlers.
[01:51.480 --> 01:56.840]  Top of the hour news brought to you by INN World Report.
[01:56.840 --> 02:03.040]  A U.S. marshal and state police serve notices to farmers in southern Illinois Saturday that
[02:03.040 --> 02:07.720]  they are being sued by genetically engineered food giant Monsanto.
[02:07.720 --> 02:12.720]  Between two and four hundred farmers have been reportedly threatened by Monsanto in
[02:12.720 --> 02:15.720]  the form of visits, letters and phone calls.
[02:15.720 --> 02:21.080]  Monsanto has reportedly been targeting seed cleaners across the Midwest.
[02:21.080 --> 02:27.960]  Steve Hickson, an Illinois seed cleaner, had his office broken into and each of his remotely
[02:27.960 --> 02:33.520]  located customers had men described as goons arrive at their farms.
[02:33.520 --> 02:39.240]  State police believe a GPS tracking device may have been put on Hickson's equipment.
[02:39.240 --> 02:44.560]  Hickson says that when he is cleaning seeds, he is spending $13,000 an hour on the local
[02:44.560 --> 02:48.880]  economy and those seeds have a very small carbon footprint.
[02:48.880 --> 02:55.080]  Monsanto's GM seeds have a much heavier carbon footprint since they require seed to be transported
[02:55.080 --> 02:56.080]  across the country.
[02:56.080 --> 03:18.080]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?
[03:18.080 --> 03:35.080]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:35.080 --> 03:46.080]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:46.080 --> 03:54.080]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[03:54.080 --> 04:02.000]  Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:02.000 --> 04:12.740]  You chuck it on that one, you chuck it on this one, you chuck it on your mother and
[04:12.740 --> 04:29.980]  Bad boys bad boys whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
[04:29.980 --> 04:34.620]  Nobody now give you no break. Police now give you no break.
[04:34.620 --> 04:40.920]  That cow soldier man now give you no break. That kiss in your eye now give you no break.
[04:40.920 --> 04:43.580]  Bad Boys, Bad Boys Whatcha Gonna do?
[04:43.620 --> 04:46.040]  Whatcha Gonna do when they come for you?
[04:45.800 --> 04:47.520]  Bad Boys, Bad Boys
[04:47.640 --> 04:48.980]  Whatcha Gonna do?
[04:49.080 --> 04:51.460]  Whatcha Gonna do when they come for you?
[04:51.460 --> 04:53.120]  Bad Boys, Bad Boys
[04:53.140 --> 04:54.260]  Whatcha Gonna do?
[04:54.300 --> 04:56.860]  Whatcha Gonna do when they come for you?
[04:57.060 --> 04:58.600]  Bad Boys, Bad Boys
[04:58.640 --> 04:59.920]  Whatcha Gonna do?
[04:59.920 --> 05:18.880]  All right, it's Monday evening, this is the Rule of Law, Randy Helton and Deborah Stevens
[05:18.880 --> 05:22.560]  here on Rule of Law Radio.
[05:22.560 --> 05:24.920]  I have a couple of announcements to make.
[05:24.920 --> 05:35.760]  I want to welcome our listeners from Radio Liberty, 1640 AM, broadcasting in Sioux Falls,
[05:35.760 --> 05:44.840]  South Dakota and also Omaha, Nebraska and other areas of Omaha and around South Dakota.
[05:44.840 --> 05:48.480]  So we thank you all for listening, thank you for tuning in.
[05:48.480 --> 05:52.440]  We want to thank the stations for carrying our network.
[05:52.440 --> 05:58.680]  So where our network is growing, we're on several FM stations, at least eight that we
[05:58.680 --> 06:09.000]  know of, Madison, Wisconsin, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Durant in Oklahoma, another city in
[06:09.000 --> 06:13.240]  Oklahoma that I forgot, I'm sorry, which one Chris could probably call in and tell me and
[06:13.240 --> 06:16.320]  of course Austin, Texas.
[06:16.320 --> 06:20.860]  So I just want to thank all those FMs for carrying us, helping us grow.
[06:20.860 --> 06:23.400]  Thank you Radio Liberty, 1640 AM.
[06:23.400 --> 06:28.440]  We're going to have a guest on Thursday, Bill Schober, who is one of our sponsors, who will
[06:28.440 --> 06:38.600]  be calling him to discuss the industry of life settlements and the case law and court,
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[06:43.800 --> 06:47.320]  So it should be a very interesting show, is an industry that I never knew about, but apparently
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[07:15.280 --> 07:18.160]  We really, really, really need it.
[07:18.160 --> 07:24.160]  I never got a chance to post on the website the equipment that we need because I decided
[07:24.160 --> 07:26.120]  to take another route.
[07:26.120 --> 07:31.320]  I didn't have time to wait and gather money for the new equipment because I had to set
[07:31.320 --> 07:34.560]  it up while I had time off of work over Christmas break.
[07:34.560 --> 07:42.200]  So I blew out all my credit cards and bought the equipment myself and spent my whole Christmas
[07:42.200 --> 07:43.880]  break setting everything up.
[07:43.880 --> 07:48.440]  That's why we had to run several archives, that's why some of the audio quality sometime
[07:48.440 --> 07:50.640]  was not the best.
[07:50.640 --> 07:56.200]  But I finally set everything up, I spent this last week running all the mastering, setting
[07:56.200 --> 08:00.000]  up all the mastering and all the compressors and everything like that.
[08:00.000 --> 08:03.540]  So even last week, I know the audio quality may have been a little sketchy, but I have
[08:03.540 --> 08:06.480]  everything finally set up and all the levels tweaked out now.
[08:06.480 --> 08:11.480]  So all you people who are sending me emails about my mic is louder or the caller isn't
[08:11.480 --> 08:16.120]  as loud or whatever, okay, we don't need to worry about that anymore, hopefully.
[08:16.120 --> 08:22.920]  I mean, listen people, mainstream major radio stations spend hundreds of thousands of dollars
[08:22.920 --> 08:27.640]  on equipment to make sure that everyone's level is exactly the same, okay.
[08:27.640 --> 08:29.440]  It is a very difficult thing.
[08:29.440 --> 08:35.680]  It is not just a matter of, it's not just a matter of, well, let's just turn a channel
[08:35.680 --> 08:36.880]  up and that will fix it.
[08:36.880 --> 08:41.320]  No, that's not the way it works because all the callers have different levels, okay.
[08:41.320 --> 08:46.000]  People speak at different levels, sometimes, you know, Randy's soft, sometimes he's really
[08:46.000 --> 08:48.280]  loud and he gets excited and tells stories.
[08:48.280 --> 08:52.200]  You know, sometimes I have to lean away from the mic and make an adjustment while I'm talking,
[08:52.200 --> 08:53.200]  okay.
[08:53.200 --> 08:56.320]  There's a lot of issues here, okay, it's not just a matter of, well, can you turn that
[08:56.320 --> 08:57.320]  guy up?
[08:57.320 --> 08:59.560]  I mean, so give me a break already.
[08:59.560 --> 09:05.360]  With the emails, I've been a professional audio engineer for over 20 years, okay, so
[09:05.360 --> 09:08.840]  I'm doing the best I can on a shoestring here, but if you've been listening for the
[09:08.840 --> 09:14.960]  last day or so, Friday and to jurisdictionary show, I think you'll see that the levels are
[09:14.960 --> 09:19.120]  getting pretty, pretty nice right about now, especially after I worked on all the mastering
[09:19.120 --> 09:21.120]  equipment over the weekend.
[09:21.120 --> 09:33.440]  Okay, so now we are going to Randy Kelton and Randy, so what do you have for us tonight?
[09:33.440 --> 09:39.280]  Randy, are you there?
[09:39.280 --> 09:40.280]  I'm here.
[09:40.280 --> 09:41.280]  Okay, wait, hold on, I'm not getting you.
[09:41.280 --> 09:42.280]  Go ahead.
[09:42.280 --> 09:43.280]  Okay, how's that?
[09:43.280 --> 09:49.440]  No, no, hold on one moment, hold on one moment, we're not getting Randy's channel here for
[09:49.440 --> 09:52.440]  some reason.
[09:52.440 --> 09:58.440]  Randy, go ahead.
[09:58.440 --> 10:03.120]  No, no.
[10:03.120 --> 10:07.880]  One second, Randy's using a different iPhone setup here, he's not here with us in the studio
[10:07.880 --> 10:11.920]  right now.
[10:11.920 --> 10:15.920]  Bear with us, listeners.
[10:15.920 --> 10:26.040]  All right, we're going to have to cut to break for one second, we're going to have to cut
[10:26.040 --> 10:27.040]  to break.
[10:27.040 --> 10:45.120]  I'm sorry, listeners, I thought we had this setup last night.
[10:45.120 --> 11:08.800]  All right, we're going to have to cut to break for one second, we're going to have to cut
[11:08.800 --> 11:09.800]  to break.
[11:09.800 --> 11:28.800]  All right, we're going to have to cut to break for one second, we're going to have to cut
[11:28.800 --> 11:53.800]  to break for one second, we're going to have to cut to break for one second, we're going
[11:53.800 --> 12:21.800]  to have to cut to break for one second, we're going to have to cut to break for one second,
[12:21.800 --> 12:41.800]  we're going to have to cut to break for one second, we're going to have to cut to break
[12:41.800 --> 13:09.800]  for one second, we're going to have to cut to break for one second, we're going to have
[13:09.800 --> 13:39.120]  to cut to break for one second, we're going to have to cut to break for one second, we're
[13:39.120 --> 13:47.800]  appeals here in Texas, and he used the Tom DeLay writ that I prepared a while back, challenging
[13:47.800 --> 13:52.320]  a prosecution without criminal complaint.
[13:52.320 --> 13:57.720]  You know, Tom DeLay, one of the most powerful politicians in the country, was taken down
[13:57.720 --> 14:04.320]  by Ron Earl, and no one ever accused him of a crime.
[14:04.320 --> 14:06.840]  This is the case with Russell.
[14:06.840 --> 14:11.840]  The grand jury found an indictment, but no one had ever accused Russell of a criminal
[14:11.840 --> 14:21.320]  act, and we filed a motion with this brief attached to it.
[14:21.320 --> 14:27.720]  It's a bit complex to get to why they have to have a criminal complaint, and when you
[14:27.720 --> 14:34.680]  read the statutes, you have to consider them in paramateria, all together as if they're
[14:34.680 --> 14:41.240]  a single group, or a single one piece, and when you do that, there's no way to get to
[14:41.240 --> 14:47.200]  an indictment without a criminal complaint first being filed.
[14:47.200 --> 14:57.920]  One of the primary arguments that I use to force the issue is Article 2022, Code of Criminal
[14:57.920 --> 15:07.960]  Procedure, that statute forbids the clerk from registering, from making a note in the
[15:07.960 --> 15:15.400]  minutes of the court showing that an indictment has been made, so the indictment can't be
[15:15.400 --> 15:23.860]  filed with the clerk of the court until the person who's accused has been arrested.
[15:23.860 --> 15:31.360]  Say someone comes in and makes an allegation, the grand jury finds an indictment, but the
[15:31.360 --> 15:36.420]  person himself wasn't arrested, he wasn't arrested on an on-site offense or anything.
[15:36.420 --> 15:41.960]  Someone say, like one of these bankers who was committing fraud, someone comes in and
[15:41.960 --> 15:48.920]  files a complaint, the police do an investigation, they find probable cause, they would file
[15:48.920 --> 15:51.840]  a complaint with the court.
[15:51.840 --> 15:56.520]  The prosecutor would take the complaint, reduce it to an information, and submit both to the
[15:56.520 --> 15:59.720]  grand jury.
[15:59.720 --> 16:06.560]  Then the grand jury, once they get the complaint as a criminal accusation, then they would
[16:06.560 --> 16:15.520]  examine into the allegation, vote on it, then they, once a indictment is voted on and a
[16:15.520 --> 16:20.880]  majority of the grand jury vote to indict, the foreman of the grand jury is required
[16:20.880 --> 16:29.040]  to gather up all the evidence used by the grand jury, forward it to the district attorney,
[16:29.040 --> 16:34.600]  and request that the district attorney prepare an indictment.
[16:34.600 --> 16:45.320]  Then the grand jury, with a quorum present, under 2022 are required to go before the clerk,
[16:45.320 --> 16:54.600]  go into court, and read the fact of the indictment to the court, and the clerk shall make notes
[16:54.600 --> 16:56.240]  in the minutes of the court.
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[18:22.160 --> 18:40.040]  If I can't believe my eyes, I've got to believe my heart.
[18:40.040 --> 18:50.040]  Yeah, if I can't believe the newspapers, I've got to believe my heart.
[18:50.040 --> 18:59.040]  If I can't believe the radio, I've got to believe my heart.
[18:59.040 --> 19:06.040]  And my heart said, whoa, wait a minute, hold on.
[19:06.040 --> 19:10.040]  You know I'm out here in this wilderness, Lord.
[19:10.040 --> 19:15.040]  Troubles you bring to me make me feel actually home.
[19:15.040 --> 19:21.040]  Just because you can't find the sleep in this reality.
[19:21.040 --> 19:37.040]  Maria, Maria, Maria.
[19:37.040 --> 19:57.040]  Maria, Maria, Maria.
[19:57.040 --> 20:07.040]  I keep finding myself in places where I've got to believe my heart.
[20:07.040 --> 20:16.040]  Not much to go on in some cases, so I've got to believe my heart.
[20:16.040 --> 20:26.040]  I keep finding myself in situations where I've got to believe my heart.
[20:26.040 --> 20:35.040]  I might not possess the proper education, so I've got to believe my heart.
[20:35.040 --> 20:42.040]  And my heart said, whoa, wait a minute, wait and see.
[20:42.040 --> 20:51.040]  I know you truly want what's best for me, and I'll try to be just what you want me to be.
[20:51.040 --> 21:00.040]  Just because you can't find the sleep in this reality.
[21:00.040 --> 21:05.040]  Hallelujah.
[21:05.040 --> 21:09.040]  I've got to believe my heart.
[21:09.040 --> 21:15.040]  I'll be my God in the name.
[21:15.040 --> 21:22.040]  All right, we are back, rule of law on rule of law radio.
[21:22.040 --> 21:26.040]  All right, sorry about the break there, folks.
[21:26.040 --> 21:28.040]  It's a very complicated setup here.
[21:28.040 --> 21:33.040]  It's a lot more difficult to run our show than other people's show because we're running our show out of our own studio.
[21:33.040 --> 21:37.040]  So, and neither Randy wasn't looking at the time either because I was trying to fix things.
[21:37.040 --> 21:39.040]  Okay, so go ahead, Randy.
[21:39.040 --> 21:44.040]  Okay, I was talking about how the grand jury works.
[21:44.040 --> 21:50.040]  Under Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, under 20.09,
[21:50.040 --> 21:57.040]  a grand jury shall examine into all criminal accusations that come to their knowledge.
[21:57.040 --> 22:02.040]  Well, they have to have a criminal accusation, and that's a criminal complaint.
[22:02.040 --> 22:10.040]  They can even look into something that one of the grand jurors happens to know about himself.
[22:10.040 --> 22:15.040]  But in order to bring it before the grand jury, they need a criminal accusation.
[22:15.040 --> 22:20.040]  So even the grand jury member would have to prepare a criminal complaint.
[22:20.040 --> 22:25.040]  And then once they have a complaint, then they examine into the allocation,
[22:25.040 --> 22:29.040]  and all of the grand jurors vote on it.
[22:29.040 --> 22:39.040]  And then they determine if a majority of the jurors vote to indict,
[22:39.040 --> 22:44.040]  then the grand jury will, then the foreman will call,
[22:44.040 --> 22:50.040]  will take all of the evidence used by the grand jury and forward it to the district attorney
[22:50.040 --> 22:56.040]  and ask the district attorney to prepare an indictment.
[22:56.040 --> 23:07.040]  Well, in, for instance, the Tom DeLay case, there never was a criminal accusation.
[23:07.040 --> 23:12.040]  So the question becomes, how did the grand jury get the indictment?
[23:12.040 --> 23:15.040]  What did they examine into?
[23:15.040 --> 23:17.040]  Where did they get any information?
[23:17.040 --> 23:22.040]  It apparently did not come from the grand juror members themselves.
[23:22.040 --> 23:26.040]  So who did it come from?
[23:26.040 --> 23:30.040]  It had to have come from Ron Earl.
[23:30.040 --> 23:37.040]  He did what a lot of attorneys do, prosecuting attorneys do, is they just go to the grand jury
[23:37.040 --> 23:41.040]  and ask them to indict somebody.
[23:41.040 --> 23:47.040]  No complaint, no due process, no anything.
[23:47.040 --> 23:55.040]  But we get to 2022, and it forbids the foreman or the clerk of the court
[23:55.040 --> 23:57.040]  from entering the fact of the grand jury into the court.
[23:57.040 --> 24:03.040]  Now, why would they do that until the person has been arrested?
[24:03.040 --> 24:11.040]  Now, the courts will say that after indictment, you don't have a right to an examining trial.
[24:11.040 --> 24:23.040]  And that's true because the indictment cannot be filed with the court until you've been arrested.
[24:23.040 --> 24:27.040]  So you can't be indicted until you're arrested.
[24:27.040 --> 24:33.040]  When the grand jury finds votes to indict, if you haven't been arrested,
[24:33.040 --> 24:40.040]  then the clerk is ordered to prepare a warrant for your arrest.
[24:40.040 --> 24:43.040]  Then the police go out and arrest you.
[24:43.040 --> 24:53.040]  Any time a person is arrested, a examining trial is always invoked.
[24:53.040 --> 24:57.040]  So when they arrest you, the arresting officer is commanded to bring you
[24:57.040 --> 25:03.040]  before the nearest magistrate and hold an examining trial.
[25:03.040 --> 25:09.040]  So after the indictment is filed with the court, no, you don't have a right to an examining trial
[25:09.040 --> 25:13.040]  because you should have already had one.
[25:13.040 --> 25:21.040]  That's why the clerk cannot enter the fact of the indictment onto the records of the court
[25:21.040 --> 25:23.040]  until you've been arrested.
[25:23.040 --> 25:32.040]  After arrest, if the proper procedures are followed, the examining trial has already been had,
[25:32.040 --> 25:39.040]  and the accused has had opportunity to enter exculpatory evidence into the court
[25:39.040 --> 25:43.040]  and had opportunity to hear the allegation against him.
[25:43.040 --> 25:49.040]  Now if the witness or the accuser has lied to the court,
[25:49.040 --> 25:53.040]  now he has an opportunity to move for a franks hearing.
[25:53.040 --> 26:00.040]  And that's what a franks hearing is for, is to determine whether or not the person who petitioned for the warrant
[26:00.040 --> 26:04.040]  to file the complaint lied to the court.
[26:04.040 --> 26:14.040]  And if they finally lied to the court, the indictment will be void because it's based on perjured information.
[26:14.040 --> 26:27.040]  But what the courts ruled in Russell's case is nothing matters after indictment.
[26:27.040 --> 26:29.040]  It just doesn't matter.
[26:29.040 --> 26:36.040]  What they have said is it makes no difference what the police do.
[26:36.040 --> 26:45.040]  It makes no difference what due process rights they deny you, what kind of abuse they heap on you,
[26:45.040 --> 26:49.040]  makes no difference what the magistrates, the jailers, the prosecutors,
[26:49.040 --> 26:57.040]  anybody makes no difference what they do once the grand jury finds an indictment.
[26:57.040 --> 27:02.040]  So under that ruling, you could be arrested and stay in jail ten years.
[27:02.040 --> 27:07.040]  And then they finally get around to finding an indictment, all of that's gone.
[27:07.040 --> 27:12.040]  You can't raise an issue about it, doesn't matter anymore.
[27:12.040 --> 27:18.040]  Well, frankly, that's terrifying.
[27:18.040 --> 27:23.040]  Even if the judges would consider such a thing.
[27:23.040 --> 27:30.040]  I understand that they don't want to render the ruling that Russell's asking for
[27:30.040 --> 27:38.040]  because it will indicate that every single indictment they have is bogus
[27:38.040 --> 27:44.040]  because none of the records are in possession of the clerk of the court.
[27:44.040 --> 27:53.040]  Now, we presented case law where a challenge to the jurisdiction was made for lack of a criminal complaint in the court record.
[27:53.040 --> 28:02.040]  And in every case of that nature, every one that I've seen is one paragraph.
[28:02.040 --> 28:11.040]  It says, we examine the court record and find no complaint bestowing jurisdiction on the court.
[28:11.040 --> 28:16.040]  The cause is reversed, the case is dismissed.
[28:16.040 --> 28:26.040]  Reason being, no criminal accusation by some credible person, no subject matter jurisdiction, period.
[28:26.040 --> 28:29.040]  And here's the problem the courts found.
[28:29.040 --> 28:34.040]  They already knew this problem existed and for whatever reason didn't fix it.
[28:34.040 --> 28:42.040]  Questions were raised about examining trials for quite a while and what the courts said, well, I'm sorry, about.
[28:42.040 --> 28:47.040]  No records in the hands of the clerk of the court.
[28:47.040 --> 28:55.040]  Because the magistrate, after he does an examining trial, is commanded to seal all the documents had in the hearing.
[28:55.040 --> 29:03.040]  In an envelope, cause his name to be written across the seal and forward it to the clerk of the court of jurisdiction.
[29:03.040 --> 29:05.040]  That doesn't happen.
[29:05.040 --> 29:16.040]  So a police officer makes an arrest, takes the person to a magistrate, puts a criminal complaint in the hand of the magistrate,
[29:16.040 --> 29:28.040]  and that complaint gives the magistrate subject matter jurisdiction for the purpose of an examining trial and that purpose only.
[29:28.040 --> 29:34.040]  The magistrate holds the trial and then he's commanded to seal all those records and send them to the clerk of the court.
[29:34.040 --> 29:36.040]  That transfers jurisdiction.
[29:36.040 --> 29:39.040]  All right, yeah, we're going to break. We'll be right back.
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[31:15.040 --> 31:26.040]  Some people are preaching ideas with which I may not agree, because they want the world to be the way they think it should be.
[31:26.040 --> 31:33.040]  When I hear that judgment's passed, it's saying, hang on, I'm wondering if they're living the life they're preaching about to be.
[31:33.040 --> 31:46.040]  Living up is difficult, but not to fool our people down makes it probably better to be broke. May the world learn to trust in the songs we sing, but in my heart I pray we're not gonna bring any damage.
[31:46.040 --> 31:57.040]  On the stones, found where the people living in the polyglot zones, the damage on the stones, found where the people living in the polyglot zones,
[31:57.040 --> 32:08.040]  I feel the pain, but it's all right. Pain, but it's all right. Pain, but it's all right.
[32:10.040 --> 32:19.040]  The rain is out on the storm, and it's all around, and it's coming just like a charm, you know.
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[32:40.040 --> 32:45.040]  All right, we are back. The rule of law on Rule of Law Radio.
[32:45.040 --> 32:54.040]  We are taking calls tonight, so callers, if you'd like to call in, 512-646-1984.
[32:54.040 --> 32:56.040]  Okay, Randy, you were talking about...
[32:56.040 --> 33:03.040]  Okay, yeah, I'm gonna back up a little bit, because I was talking about how the grand jury works.
[33:03.040 --> 33:12.040]  And in getting to that, I'm gonna walk through the basic due process of how jurisdiction goes to the court.
[33:12.040 --> 33:22.040]  The police officer doesn't arrest, either with or without a warrant, brings the person to the magistrate,
[33:22.040 --> 33:27.040]  hands the magistrate either a criminal complaint or a warrant.
[33:27.040 --> 33:38.040]  Now, the only way there can be a warrant is if someone has already went to a magistrate and gave them a criminal complaint.
[33:38.040 --> 33:47.040]  These documents give the court jurisdiction for the purpose of holding and examining trial.
[33:47.040 --> 33:55.040]  The magistrate, once he holds the hearing, is commanded to take all the documents he used,
[33:55.040 --> 33:59.040]  seal them in an envelope, and forward them to the clerk of the proper court.
[33:59.040 --> 34:10.040]  That gets the criminal complaint moved from the magistrate's hands to the hands of the clerk of the proper court,
[34:10.040 --> 34:14.040]  and thereby moves jurisdiction.
[34:14.040 --> 34:20.040]  Now, this is in a case where someone's been arrested, and frankly, that does not happen.
[34:20.040 --> 34:28.040]  So what the courts said when they saw this, they said, holy mackerel, everybody loses jurisdiction at this point.
[34:28.040 --> 34:37.040]  So they said, well, in that case, the magistrate has jurisdiction until the time of indictment.
[34:37.040 --> 34:45.040]  Well, that's interesting. What if the magistrate's the mayor?
[34:45.040 --> 34:52.040]  So how does the mayor have jurisdiction?
[34:52.040 --> 35:00.040]  What they have done is they found a problem and had no way to fix it, so they made up a BS fix,
[35:00.040 --> 35:07.040]  because a magistrate can only have jurisdiction for the purpose of holding an examining trial.
[35:07.040 --> 35:13.040]  So whether he had jurisdiction after that or not, there's nothing he's allowed to do.
[35:13.040 --> 35:16.040]  He can do no adjudication in the case.
[35:16.040 --> 35:27.040]  This was a nonsense ruling that the courts ruled in order to find a way to hide the problem that they had.
[35:27.040 --> 35:33.040]  But when they found the problem, they didn't do anything to fix it, but they just left it like it was.
[35:33.040 --> 35:42.040]  Now the problem extends to indictments without a criminal complaint, because they didn't have the criminal complaint.
[35:42.040 --> 35:46.040]  The criminal complaint disappears, and we've talked about this before,
[35:46.040 --> 35:52.040]  about how the prosecuting attorney makes sure the criminal complaint disappears.
[35:52.040 --> 35:59.040]  He does that so that he has plenty of time to squeeze a deal out of the person that he's accused.
[35:59.040 --> 36:08.040]  But in the case of an indictment, ordinarily that criminal complaint would be presented to the grand jury,
[36:08.040 --> 36:14.040]  and then the grand jury would have a criminal accusation on which to vote or examine into,
[36:14.040 --> 36:19.040]  and then vote either for or against an indictment.
[36:19.040 --> 36:24.040]  Well, somehow prosecutors decided you don't need that.
[36:24.040 --> 36:31.040]  Maybe the legislature really didn't mean it when they said that the grand jury
[36:31.040 --> 36:37.040]  shall examine into all criminal accusations that come to their knowledge.
[36:37.040 --> 36:42.040]  Maybe they thought they just stuck those words in there for nothing, and we don't have to pay attention to them.
[36:42.040 --> 36:47.040]  Maybe they thought the legislature didn't mean what they were talking about
[36:47.040 --> 36:51.040]  when they said that after the grand jury votes to indict,
[36:51.040 --> 36:56.040]  then the foreman shall gather up all the evidence and send it to the prosecuting attorney
[36:56.040 --> 37:00.040]  and request that he prepare an indictment.
[37:00.040 --> 37:02.040]  Maybe they didn't mean what they were saying.
[37:02.040 --> 37:07.040]  They really meant that the prosecuting attorney should prepare an indictment
[37:07.040 --> 37:13.040]  and send it to the grand jury and ask them to approve it.
[37:13.040 --> 37:21.040]  We get into a problem here because with what Tony Davis has been talking about in the federal courts,
[37:21.040 --> 37:23.040]  they got to where they don't even bother with the grand jury at all.
[37:23.040 --> 37:29.040]  They just stamped the indictment with a rubber stamp and give it to the court.
[37:29.040 --> 37:36.040]  Well, our legislators put provisions in place to ensure that these kinds of things don't happen.
[37:36.040 --> 37:42.040]  They commanded that the grand jury or at least a quorum, more than half,
[37:42.040 --> 37:50.040]  come before the court and the foreman shall read the fact of the indictment onto the court record
[37:50.040 --> 37:54.040]  and the clerk shall make notations in the record.
[37:54.040 --> 38:01.040]  They intended that all of these steps be followed to ensure that there was no hanky-panky.
[38:01.040 --> 38:03.040]  Well, we've got lots of hanky-panky now.
[38:03.040 --> 38:11.040]  What the judges have found is that for the most part since in those cases like in the Tom Delay case
[38:11.040 --> 38:14.040]  where there was no one to file a criminal complaint.
[38:14.040 --> 38:17.040]  See, a prosecutor is forbidden to do that.
[38:17.040 --> 38:24.040]  And the Tom Delay case was a perfect case because we knew that Ron Earl really wanted to get this guy.
[38:24.040 --> 38:30.040]  And he had nobody to file the complaint, so he just went and got the guy himself.
[38:30.040 --> 38:37.040]  This allows the prosecuting attorney to get around a very specific prohibition
[38:37.040 --> 38:45.040]  in the Code of Criminal Procedure that prohibits the prosecuting attorney from initiating a prosecution.
[38:45.040 --> 38:55.040]  Kennedy v. State says, in order to avoid the obvious evils of the accumulation of powers in any one office,
[38:55.040 --> 39:03.040]  a prosecuting attorney for the purpose of filing a criminal accusation is not a credible person.
[39:03.040 --> 39:09.040]  And here in 2122, Code of Criminal Procedure information based upon complaint,
[39:09.040 --> 39:16.040]  no information shall be presented until affidavit has been made by some credible person
[39:16.040 --> 39:19.040]  charging the defendant with an offense.
[39:19.040 --> 39:25.040]  The affidavit shall be filed with the information it may be sworn to before the district or county attorney
[39:25.040 --> 39:29.040]  who for that purpose shall have power to administer the oath,
[39:29.040 --> 39:35.040]  or it may be made before any officer authorized by law to administer oaths.
[39:35.040 --> 39:39.040]  Now that's real hard to misunderstand.
[39:39.040 --> 39:46.040]  What the court said was that only applies to misdemeanors.
[39:46.040 --> 39:52.040]  Well, there's nothing in the statute that says it only applies to misdemeanors.
[39:52.040 --> 39:54.040]  That doesn't make any sense to me.
[39:54.040 --> 39:57.040]  Well, they knew it didn't make any sense, but they didn't have anything else they could do.
[39:57.040 --> 39:59.040]  They just don't care.
[39:59.040 --> 40:02.040]  Well, yeah, they care, they're scared.
[40:02.040 --> 40:07.040]  They can't rule in Russell's favor.
[40:07.040 --> 40:08.040]  Yeah.
[40:08.040 --> 40:11.040]  Because if they do, they didn't have to let everybody out of jail.
[40:11.040 --> 40:12.040]  And here's part of the problem.
[40:12.040 --> 40:19.040]  We go back to Chapter 2, Code of Criminal Procedure, duties of officers.
[40:19.040 --> 40:27.040]  The first set of officers they deal with are prosecution attorneys or district attorneys.
[40:27.040 --> 40:29.040]  Okay, it says shall draw complaints.
[40:29.040 --> 40:32.040]  Now consider all of these.
[40:32.040 --> 40:36.040]  If it's a district attorney, everything gets an indictment.
[40:36.040 --> 40:41.040]  Upon a complaint being made before a district or county attorney,
[40:41.040 --> 40:45.040]  that an offense has been committed in his district or county,
[40:45.040 --> 40:48.040]  he shall reduce the complaint to writing,
[40:48.040 --> 40:52.040]  and cause the same to be signed and swore to by the complainant,
[40:52.040 --> 40:56.040]  and it shall be duly attested by said attorney.
[40:56.040 --> 40:59.040]  That's 2.04.
[40:59.040 --> 41:00.040]  Let me back up.
[41:00.040 --> 41:01.040]  We went through this before.
[41:01.040 --> 41:03.040]  Yeah, and also Meta from Texas is on the line.
[41:03.040 --> 41:07.040]  I think she calls in from a satellite phone, so.
[41:07.040 --> 41:09.040]  Oh, okay.
[41:09.040 --> 41:12.040]  Okay, let's go ahead to Meta since she's on the phone.
[41:12.040 --> 41:14.040]  Okay, yeah, because believe me, I know about satellite phones
[41:14.040 --> 41:20.040]  because I had one at Rainbow, and those things cost about $3 a minute, so.
[41:20.040 --> 41:23.040]  Deborah, Randy, this is Dennis Wilson.
[41:23.040 --> 41:25.040]  Oh, hello.
[41:25.040 --> 41:28.040]  I've gone in one time before, and yes, we are on a satellite phone.
[41:28.040 --> 41:35.040]  We're in the middle of nowhere, about 370 miles west of y'all
[41:35.040 --> 41:38.040]  out here in the great area of no man's land.
[41:38.040 --> 41:39.040]  Okay.
[41:39.040 --> 41:47.040]  And exactly what Randy was hitting on is exactly what we are fighting right now.
[41:47.040 --> 41:53.040]  We had an issue with a couple of wider types from the Border Patrol.
[41:53.040 --> 41:56.040]  We had no problems with the Border Patrol as an agency,
[41:56.040 --> 41:59.040]  so let's put that one to bed right now.
[41:59.040 --> 42:07.040]  But we have an issue with a couple of rogue individuals that have water tendencies,
[42:07.040 --> 42:16.040]  and I personally took the complaint to the sheriff of 29th and Oxford.
[42:16.040 --> 42:23.040]  That day, the sheriff, now yes, understand, we are in a county twice the size of Bear County
[42:23.040 --> 42:27.040]  with less than 1,200 people that live here.
[42:27.040 --> 42:30.040]  So there's a lot of people that know each other's business,
[42:30.040 --> 42:36.040]  and some of them are interrelated in other ways.
[42:36.040 --> 42:39.040]  But we won't get into the knuckle-dragons.
[42:39.040 --> 42:40.040]  Okay.
[42:40.040 --> 42:42.040]  Let me go ahead.
[42:42.040 --> 42:45.040]  I've heard the Foxworthy joke.
[42:45.040 --> 42:47.040]  Yeah, one of those.
[42:47.040 --> 42:50.040]  But you might be redneck out here, yeah.
[42:50.040 --> 42:54.040]  But we won't go there either.
[42:54.040 --> 43:01.040]  The sheriff told me that he was not going to waste my time or his time
[43:01.040 --> 43:04.040]  unless I took it to the county attorney,
[43:04.040 --> 43:10.040]  and she called him and told him that she was going to process it.
[43:10.040 --> 43:18.040]  So he referred me directly after spending 45 minutes with him over to the county attorney.
[43:18.040 --> 43:23.040]  Now, you have to understand that my complaint dealt with criminal trespass,
[43:23.040 --> 43:29.040]  destruction of personal property in excess of $1,500,
[43:29.040 --> 43:35.040]  which converted that little misdemeanor into a state jail felony.
[43:35.040 --> 43:42.040]  And I am a disabled person, disabled debt, but we'll pass on that one.
[43:42.040 --> 43:48.040]  And my wife was a candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives in District 16 during this,
[43:48.040 --> 43:53.040]  so she was, as she calls her, a public servant.
[43:53.040 --> 44:01.040]  And since this is joint property state and it was our fence that was destroyed out here on Highway 90,
[44:01.040 --> 44:05.040]  she was in a fence against the public servant as well.
[44:05.040 --> 44:10.040]  They also made verbal threats.
[44:10.040 --> 44:14.040]  Are you there?
[44:14.040 --> 44:16.040]  Are you there?
[44:16.040 --> 44:17.040]  Hello?
[44:17.040 --> 44:18.040]  Okay, go ahead.
[44:18.040 --> 44:21.040]  We lost you for a second.
[44:21.040 --> 44:22.040]  Okay.
[44:22.040 --> 44:23.040]  It cuts out.
[44:23.040 --> 44:31.040]  Our downlink is over.
[44:31.040 --> 44:32.040]  Okay.
[44:32.040 --> 44:35.040]  Anyway, the sheriff referred me to the county attorney.
[44:35.040 --> 44:38.040]  The county attorney and I talked for another 45 minutes.
[44:38.040 --> 44:46.040]  She told me she didn't have knowledge of whether or not she had jurisdiction.
[44:46.040 --> 44:53.040]  Now, it happened on private property within the boundaries of the county,
[44:53.040 --> 44:57.040]  within the territorial boundaries of the state.
[44:57.040 --> 45:04.040]  The two people that actually committed the crimes were federal agents,
[45:04.040 --> 45:09.040]  but they were acting outside their authority.
[45:09.040 --> 45:10.040]  Yes.
[45:10.040 --> 45:18.040]  And that was the 29th of October, the 5th of November, I went back to the sheriff, gave him a five-page five-statement.
[45:18.040 --> 45:20.040]  He witnessed it.
[45:20.040 --> 45:21.040]  I have the original.
[45:21.040 --> 45:22.040]  He gave it back to me.
[45:22.040 --> 45:24.040]  He made a copy.
[45:24.040 --> 45:29.040]  The county attorney and I talked finally again in December.
[45:29.040 --> 45:36.040]  She did not know still in late December whether or not she had jurisdiction.
[45:36.040 --> 45:42.040]  So having met with the county judge, he holds county court.
[45:42.040 --> 45:46.040]  He's the first magistrate in the chain out here.
[45:46.040 --> 45:51.040]  It's a very small food chain as we go up this ladder.
[45:51.040 --> 45:54.040]  He told me to come see him in county court.
[45:54.040 --> 46:08.040]  I prepared a statement that I did for criminal complaint to the magistrate in county court with a copy of the attached affidavit.
[46:08.040 --> 46:23.040]  We got into it about five minutes, maybe six minutes, and we were stopped because I told them that this turned into a state jail felony.
[46:23.040 --> 46:26.040]  We went over $1,500 worth of property damage.
[46:26.040 --> 46:35.040]  As estimated by a non-interested third party, I had a man come out, take a look at the bed, give me a bid on fixing it.
[46:35.040 --> 46:41.040]  I have a condition that prohibits me from doing a lot of things.
[46:41.040 --> 46:50.040]  When only half your body works, it's kind of hard to pound T-posts and spring fence.
[46:50.040 --> 46:55.040]  Just bear with me here a little bit.
[46:55.040 --> 46:59.040]  The county judge said he would find out what we could do.
[46:59.040 --> 47:01.040]  He didn't know if he had jurisdiction.
[47:01.040 --> 47:11.040]  We were trying to tell him that he had to hold an examining trial when we were cut off not only by him but also by the county attorney.
[47:11.040 --> 47:25.040]  Her comment was she didn't know, no, she didn't have to do anything if in her opinion there was not a crime that had been committed.
[47:25.040 --> 47:44.040]  That's where that one is resting at this point other than we have compiled criminal complaints for the grand jury against the county attorney, against the sheriff, and actually against the two individuals that started this whole ball of wax.
[47:44.040 --> 47:59.040]  We're waiting for an answer back from the magistrate, the county judge, as to what his actions are going to be because he hasn't officially come back to us yet,
[47:59.040 --> 48:15.040]  either recusing himself because he's actually a supervisor over these two people as a county judge or he's passing it on to the district court or whatever.
[48:15.040 --> 48:37.040]  He said he talked to the DA over in Del Rio and the DA told him to tell us, I've got the message on my phone, that we needed to drop the criminal and file a civil complaint against the border patrol as an agency
[48:37.040 --> 48:48.040]  where we've got five pages of criminal citations against these fine folks.
[48:48.040 --> 48:59.040]  State code, state statutes from criminal procedures through criminal penal code.
[48:59.040 --> 49:00.040]  It's crazy.
[49:00.040 --> 49:02.040]  They're all full of crap.
[49:02.040 --> 49:03.040]  Yeah.
[49:03.040 --> 49:05.040]  They're all full of crap.
[49:05.040 --> 49:13.040]  The prosecuting attorney, the county attorney, absolutely has a very clear specific duty.
[49:13.040 --> 49:20.040]  The fact that she doesn't know about her duty makes it worse than if she knew and didn't act.
[49:20.040 --> 49:25.040]  Being ignorant is not a defense to prosecution.
[49:25.040 --> 49:34.040]  Article 2.03 code of criminal procedure gives that prosecutor a very clear duty and no discretion.
[49:34.040 --> 49:45.040]  When she is made known that a public official has violated a law relating to her office, she must present the complaint to the grand jury.
[49:45.040 --> 49:47.040]  No option.
[49:47.040 --> 49:49.040]  I told her this.
[49:49.040 --> 49:56.040]  The magistrate will prepare criminal charges against the prosecuting attorney.
[49:56.040 --> 49:58.040]  We have.
[49:58.040 --> 49:59.040]  The judge.
[49:59.040 --> 50:02.040]  We haven't done anything against the judge yet.
[50:02.040 --> 50:04.040]  The judge is a magistrate.
[50:04.040 --> 50:14.040]  Article 2.10 code of criminal procedure makes it the duty of the magistrate to prevent crimes using all legal means.
[50:14.040 --> 50:28.040]  2.11, the only duty a magistrate has is when it says that when a magistrate sits for the purpose of examining into a criminal accusation, that is an examining trial.
[50:28.040 --> 50:32.040]  That magistrate had a duty to hold one of those just like you said.
[50:32.040 --> 50:36.040]  He failed to perform a duty he was required to perform.
[50:36.040 --> 50:42.040]  Denied you in your right to petition the court for redress of grievance.
[50:42.040 --> 50:46.040]  That violates 39.03 penal code.
[50:46.040 --> 50:49.040]  It's a Class A misdemeanor in Texas.
[50:49.040 --> 50:57.040]  You should make up a criminal complaint against the magistrate, against the county attorney.
[50:57.040 --> 51:00.040]  Have them verified by a notary.
[51:00.040 --> 51:09.040]  Take them to the district attorney and say, here you go, Bubba, your turn.
[51:09.040 --> 51:14.040]  And take no crap from the prosecutor.
[51:14.040 --> 51:21.040]  My question to you, because I've already talked to the clerk, and she was very adamant.
[51:21.040 --> 51:24.040]  Here in the county we're in.
[51:24.040 --> 51:28.040]  We have one grand jury.
[51:28.040 --> 51:30.040]  It sits for six months.
[51:30.040 --> 51:33.040]  And then a new one is called.
[51:33.040 --> 51:46.040]  But seeing that there are so few people that live in this county, and most of them are interrelated in some way, shape, or form,
[51:46.040 --> 51:54.040]  would it not be better to take it outside the county, possibly to Austin, and give it to the grand jury there?
[51:54.040 --> 51:56.040]  You can't.
[51:56.040 --> 52:01.040]  Against the two officers that cut your fence, you have to file that in the county.
[52:01.040 --> 52:02.040]  Okay.
[52:02.040 --> 52:07.040]  So what we need to do is get to a state official.
[52:07.040 --> 52:14.040]  The magistrate and the county attorney are county officials.
[52:14.040 --> 52:19.040]  But the district attorney and the district judge, they're not.
[52:19.040 --> 52:23.040]  When I do this, I'm always setting them up.
[52:23.040 --> 52:28.040]  And the best thing you can do is don't be reasonable.
[52:28.040 --> 52:36.040]  I just talked to the district attorney's clerk, district attorney's secretary in Cherokee County today,
[52:36.040 --> 52:41.040]  and was asking for the minutes of the grand jury because the clerk said she had them.
[52:41.040 --> 52:43.040]  And she didn't know about it.
[52:43.040 --> 52:49.040]  She asked me, and she had to talk to her boss who was in court.
[52:49.040 --> 52:50.040]  She said, can I leave a message?
[52:50.040 --> 52:52.040]  Yes, you can.
[52:52.040 --> 52:59.040]  Tell him that I'm going to be down there filing criminal charges against him.
[52:59.040 --> 53:05.040]  And I need to know if those criminal charges have been given to the grand jury or not, and if they haven't.
[53:05.040 --> 53:09.040]  Well, first I started with, I had already filed a whole bunch of criminal complaints with him.
[53:09.040 --> 53:15.040]  I needed to find out if he had given those criminal complaints to the grand jury.
[53:15.040 --> 53:19.040]  Now, if he hasn't, that's okay.
[53:19.040 --> 53:27.040]  Because then I'll prepare criminal charges against him and file those in Travis County,
[53:27.040 --> 53:36.040]  where I have 12 grand juries a year to file with, and it's a lot closer and more convenient for me anyway.
[53:36.040 --> 53:40.040]  You see, you don't care what that prosecutor does.
[53:40.040 --> 53:44.040]  If you give them to him and he gives them to the grand jury, wonderful.
[53:44.040 --> 53:47.040]  If he doesn't, wonderful.
[53:47.040 --> 53:50.040]  Now you get to bring them to Travis County.
[53:50.040 --> 53:54.040]  And you don't even have to come to Travis County.
[53:54.040 --> 54:00.040]  You can just write up a narrative and send it to me.
[54:00.040 --> 54:04.040]  If you tell me the story, I will believe you.
[54:04.040 --> 54:13.040]  If I believe you, not only can I make the filing, but I have a duty to make the filing.
[54:13.040 --> 54:19.040]  And the district attorney in Travis County really doesn't like me.
[54:19.040 --> 54:23.040]  We have a brand new one.
[54:23.040 --> 54:29.040]  We have a brand new one, and she knows I'm trouble.
[54:29.040 --> 54:38.040]  The prosecutor attorney is right, you should sue them, but not quite yet.
[54:38.040 --> 54:46.040]  You see, the district attorney has a statute that orders him to do a certain thing.
[54:46.040 --> 54:52.040]  When a statute orders a public official to do a certain thing and gives him no discretion,
[54:52.040 --> 54:57.040]  that's called a ministerial act.
[54:57.040 --> 55:08.040]  The prosecutor has immunity from civil suit, except for ministerial acts.
[55:08.040 --> 55:14.040]  He don't have any immunity from that.
[55:14.040 --> 55:22.040]  See, we're setting up a routine to go after defense counsel that doesn't do their job.
[55:22.040 --> 55:27.040]  I'm trying to get a friend of mine to accept court-appointed counsel.
[55:27.040 --> 55:32.040]  He's a researcher like myself, and he's really offended by that.
[55:32.040 --> 55:37.040]  I said, wait a minute, Robert, you force the court to give you the attorney,
[55:37.040 --> 55:44.040]  and then we give him all of our documentation and say, okay, this two-inch stack of documents, file them, argue them.
[55:44.040 --> 55:47.040]  And he's going to say, heck no, I ain't doing that.
[55:47.040 --> 55:53.040]  Okay, no problem. We will file 29 bar grievances against him.
[55:53.040 --> 56:00.040]  And he's going to have a hernia and run to the judge and say, oh, Judge, Judge, they're killing me here.
[56:00.040 --> 56:02.040]  You've got to take me off this case.
[56:02.040 --> 56:06.040]  And we're going to go to the judge and say, don't you dare, Bubba.
[56:06.040 --> 56:10.040]  I got a private contract with this attorney, and you butt out.
[56:10.040 --> 56:14.040]  Well, the judge is going to remove him from the case.
[56:14.040 --> 56:19.040]  Now the judge has a problem. Now he finds out he's been set up.
[56:19.040 --> 56:25.040]  You see, the judge also has immunity from all the judicial decisions he makes.
[56:25.040 --> 56:34.040]  But removing an attorney from a case is not a judicial decision, it's a ministerial decision.
[56:34.040 --> 56:37.040]  Zero immunity.
[56:37.040 --> 56:43.040]  We sue the judge personally for interfering with a public, private contract.
[56:43.040 --> 56:49.040]  See, you want to fight, Bubba, we will give you a good one.
[56:49.040 --> 56:52.040]  The trick is set them up.
[56:52.040 --> 56:56.040]  You go down there, don't get excited, you don't care what they do.
[56:56.040 --> 56:58.040]  It makes no difference what they do.
[56:58.040 --> 57:02.040]  You're going to take the next step no matter what happens.
[57:02.040 --> 57:07.040]  And frankly, you'll probably hope the prosecutor doesn't give it to the grand jury.
[57:07.040 --> 57:15.040]  I talked to the prosecutor in Cherokee County last week and told him I'd be coming down there giving him a whole stack of criminal complaints.
[57:15.040 --> 57:20.040]  Well, I won't be taking any frivolous complaints.
[57:20.040 --> 57:23.040]  I told him, oh, don't worry, I won't give you any frivolous complaints.
[57:23.040 --> 57:28.040]  And actually, I kind of hope you don't give them to the grand jury.
[57:28.040 --> 57:31.040]  Because if you don't, then I get to file against you.
[57:31.040 --> 57:38.040]  And since you're a statewide official, we get to file against you here in Travis County. Oh, it's going to be a lot better.
[57:38.040 --> 57:45.040]  If you were listening really close, you could have heard his rear end squeezing shut.
[57:45.040 --> 57:47.040]  He was not happy.
[57:47.040 --> 57:50.040]  And that's what will happen with yours.
[57:50.040 --> 57:57.040]  When they find out you really mean business and when they find out all you're doing is setting them up,
[57:57.040 --> 58:03.040]  now they're going to go to these two agents and say, guys, you better get your act straight.
[58:03.040 --> 58:05.040]  This guy's coming for you.
[58:05.040 --> 58:09.040]  And he's going to take us with him if we try to help you.
[58:09.040 --> 58:13.040]  This is how we get our courts back.
[58:13.040 --> 58:15.040]  Okay.
[58:15.040 --> 58:17.040]  Thank you, Randy.
[58:17.040 --> 58:18.040]  You're welcome.
[58:18.040 --> 58:19.040]  And email me.
[58:19.040 --> 58:21.040]  I got your last email.
[58:21.040 --> 58:24.040]  I'll send you an email tomorrow.
[58:24.040 --> 58:30.040]  Well, what we'll do is we'll forward you some stuff that we're doing to take a look at it
[58:30.040 --> 58:35.040]  and tell us what you would do in that same instant.
[58:35.040 --> 58:37.040]  I certainly will.
[58:37.040 --> 58:39.040]  Okay, we're about to go to break.
[58:39.040 --> 58:40.040]  There we go.
[58:40.040 --> 58:42.040]  Music's actually working.
[58:42.040 --> 58:43.040]  It's always worked.
[58:43.040 --> 58:45.040]  Okay.
[58:45.040 --> 58:46.040]  All right, we are going to break.
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[01:04:12.040 --> 01:04:19.040]  And Chris Emory Show Radio Free Oklahoma is moving to Wednesday nights 8 to 10 p.m.
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[01:04:28.040 --> 01:04:29.040]  All right, great.
[01:04:29.040 --> 01:04:32.040]  So Randy, Randy I wanted to ask you one question when you were talking
[01:04:32.040 --> 01:04:36.040]  about the grand jury stuff earlier and the indictments.
[01:04:36.040 --> 01:04:41.040]  And you mentioned something about if somebody gets held in prison
[01:04:41.040 --> 01:04:45.040]  for a year and a half or whatever waiting for an indictment,
[01:04:45.040 --> 01:04:48.040]  it sounded like you said that once the indictment comes down,
[01:04:48.040 --> 01:04:50.040]  they can't do anything about it.
[01:04:50.040 --> 01:04:51.040]  Is that what you said?
[01:04:51.040 --> 01:04:54.040]  That's what the court of appeals said.
[01:04:54.040 --> 01:04:55.040]  I don't understand.
[01:04:55.040 --> 01:04:59.040]  Why would you not be able to do anything about the fact that you sat in jail
[01:04:59.040 --> 01:05:04.040]  for a year and a half just because you've been indicted?
[01:05:04.040 --> 01:05:05.040]  I don't get it.
[01:05:05.040 --> 01:05:10.040]  The grand jury, the court of appeals, those were the arguments that we were making.
[01:05:10.040 --> 01:05:11.040]  But why?
[01:05:11.040 --> 01:05:13.040]  Because they didn't say.
[01:05:13.040 --> 01:05:16.040]  They just blew it off.
[01:05:16.040 --> 01:05:17.040]  Oh, man.
[01:05:17.040 --> 01:05:25.040]  After the indictment, everything else was moot.
[01:05:25.040 --> 01:05:26.040]  Oh, okay.
[01:05:26.040 --> 01:05:31.040]  So they could just like totally strip you of all your rights before the indictment
[01:05:31.040 --> 01:05:34.040]  and then after the indictment, oh, who cares?
[01:05:34.040 --> 01:05:35.040]  That's precisely what they did.
[01:05:35.040 --> 01:05:36.040]  That's ridiculous.
[01:05:36.040 --> 01:05:38.040]  I don't get it.
[01:05:38.040 --> 01:05:42.040]  That's what I want a grand jury to examine into.
[01:05:42.040 --> 01:05:44.040]  Me, too.
[01:05:44.040 --> 01:05:47.040]  I want to see if they feel the same way about that that I do.
[01:05:47.040 --> 01:05:49.040]  Yeah, me, too, because I don't like that.
[01:05:49.040 --> 01:05:51.040]  That doesn't sound right to me, Randy.
[01:05:51.040 --> 01:05:54.040]  I'm beginning to take a different approach.
[01:05:54.040 --> 01:05:58.040]  Rather than appeal to the court of criminal appeals,
[01:05:58.040 --> 01:06:05.040]  which first Russell is going to file a motion for a rehearing in bank,
[01:06:05.040 --> 01:06:12.040]  and that means instead of three judges hearing, ruling on the motion,
[01:06:12.040 --> 01:06:19.040]  I mean on the appeal, all of the judges have to rule on the appeal.
[01:06:19.040 --> 01:06:20.040]  And while that's happening,
[01:06:20.040 --> 01:06:28.040]  I'm going to be going down to the grand jury trying to get those three judges indicted.
[01:06:28.040 --> 01:06:29.040]  Okay.
[01:06:29.040 --> 01:06:33.040]  And that will send a clear signal to the rest of them.
[01:06:33.040 --> 01:06:37.040]  You pull this crap-ola, and I'll be dragging you down there, too.
[01:06:37.040 --> 01:06:38.040]  Yeah, really.
[01:06:38.040 --> 01:06:42.040]  And if I got the court of criminal appeals in front of them,
[01:06:42.040 --> 01:06:45.040]  these guys are dog meat.
[01:06:45.040 --> 01:06:47.040]  Dog meat.
[01:06:47.040 --> 01:06:50.040]  Well, that's the whole purpose of the grand jury.
[01:06:50.040 --> 01:06:54.040]  Instead of filing an appeal with a higher court,
[01:06:54.040 --> 01:06:57.040]  I'd rather file an appeal with the grand jury of my peers.
[01:06:57.040 --> 01:06:59.040]  Exactly.
[01:06:59.040 --> 01:07:01.040]  Sounds better to me.
[01:07:01.040 --> 01:07:04.040]  It's not going to be quite so legally sophisticated.
[01:07:04.040 --> 01:07:06.040]  That's a good thing, probably.
[01:07:06.040 --> 01:07:08.040]  Tough luck, Bubba.
[01:07:08.040 --> 01:07:11.040]  Well, they'll probably have some common sense, though, Randy.
[01:07:11.040 --> 01:07:13.040]  And I mean, that's the whole point.
[01:07:13.040 --> 01:07:16.040]  I mean, a little common sense goes a long way.
[01:07:16.040 --> 01:07:26.040]  Yes, and in law, the standard is reasonable person of ordinary prudence.
[01:07:26.040 --> 01:07:33.040]  So we give them an argument that a reasonable person of ordinary prudence
[01:07:33.040 --> 01:07:38.040]  would be terrified over and outraged over.
[01:07:38.040 --> 01:07:41.040]  And then we see if those judges can explain themselves
[01:07:41.040 --> 01:07:45.040]  when they get in front of a petit jury.
[01:07:45.040 --> 01:07:51.040]  And if they're right, I'm sure a petit jury will see things their way.
[01:07:51.040 --> 01:07:52.040]  Tell it to the judge.
[01:07:52.040 --> 01:07:53.040]  Exactly.
[01:07:53.040 --> 01:07:55.040]  Tell it to the jury, you know?
[01:07:55.040 --> 01:08:00.040]  So we'll do the same thing to them they've been doing to us,
[01:08:00.040 --> 01:08:02.040]  except they can use their appeals court.
[01:08:02.040 --> 01:08:06.040]  I'll appeal to the grand jury, and we see who wins in the end.
[01:08:06.040 --> 01:08:08.040]  I kind of like that idea better.
[01:08:08.040 --> 01:08:16.040]  Well, okay, let me kind of go over what he was talking about.
[01:08:16.040 --> 01:08:20.040]  And callers who want to call in, 512-646-1984.
[01:08:20.040 --> 01:08:21.040]  Actually, we've got a caller.
[01:08:21.040 --> 01:08:23.040]  We've got Russell from Texas right now.
[01:08:23.040 --> 01:08:28.040]  So I'll kind of go over what I was talking about with him.
[01:08:28.040 --> 01:08:30.040]  And then we'll take Russell.
[01:08:30.040 --> 01:08:33.040]  For the most part, when we try to get public officials to do
[01:08:33.040 --> 01:08:37.040]  what they're supposed to do and they don't, we get frustrated.
[01:08:37.040 --> 01:08:41.040]  Well, once we've done our homework, and in this area,
[01:08:41.040 --> 01:08:45.040]  this is what I've been frustrated for a long time.
[01:08:45.040 --> 01:08:48.040]  And I would be frustrated in one place,
[01:08:48.040 --> 01:08:50.040]  and then I would work my way to the next place,
[01:08:50.040 --> 01:08:52.040]  and then that place would frustrate me,
[01:08:52.040 --> 01:08:54.040]  and then I'd work to the next place.
[01:08:54.040 --> 01:08:59.040]  And it took about 15 years to finally work to the place
[01:08:59.040 --> 01:09:04.040]  to where the only spot left was the grand jury.
[01:09:04.040 --> 01:09:08.040]  And then I was frustrated trying to get to grand juries,
[01:09:08.040 --> 01:09:10.040]  and I was frustrated with prosecutors
[01:09:10.040 --> 01:09:13.040]  and district judges and bailiffs.
[01:09:13.040 --> 01:09:18.040]  But over time, I figured out how to handle all of them.
[01:09:18.040 --> 01:09:21.040]  So now I seldom get frustrated anymore.
[01:09:21.040 --> 01:09:24.040]  Somebody frustrates me, I just nail him.
[01:09:24.040 --> 01:09:27.040]  But we follow a procedure.
[01:09:27.040 --> 01:09:31.040]  We don't just flop around haphazard.
[01:09:31.040 --> 01:09:36.040]  And by understanding where we're trying to get to,
[01:09:36.040 --> 01:09:39.040]  it makes it a lot easier,
[01:09:39.040 --> 01:09:42.040]  and it makes us a lot more powerful
[01:09:42.040 --> 01:09:45.040]  as we move through these steps.
[01:09:45.040 --> 01:09:49.040]  See, when I go to the police and file a complaint,
[01:09:49.040 --> 01:09:52.040]  I really don't care what they do,
[01:09:52.040 --> 01:09:54.040]  because I know, for the most part,
[01:09:54.040 --> 01:09:56.040]  if it's a complaint against a public official,
[01:09:56.040 --> 01:09:58.040]  I know what they're going to do.
[01:09:58.040 --> 01:10:00.040]  So I plan for it.
[01:10:00.040 --> 01:10:03.040]  And my going to the police is just for the purpose
[01:10:03.040 --> 01:10:05.040]  of setting them up.
[01:10:05.040 --> 01:10:09.040]  So when they do what I plan on them doing,
[01:10:09.040 --> 01:10:12.040]  they're surprised when I don't get all excited
[01:10:12.040 --> 01:10:15.040]  and feel all mistreated
[01:10:15.040 --> 01:10:18.040]  when they don't do what they're supposed to.
[01:10:18.040 --> 01:10:22.040]  I tell them, no problem, Bubba, we'll be in touch.
[01:10:22.040 --> 01:10:25.040]  And then the next thing they hear about me
[01:10:25.040 --> 01:10:28.040]  is they've got someone else calling them
[01:10:28.040 --> 01:10:31.040]  wanting to know why this guy's down here
[01:10:31.040 --> 01:10:34.040]  trying to get me to arrest you.
[01:10:34.040 --> 01:10:37.040]  And now he feels like I snuck up on him.
[01:10:37.040 --> 01:10:41.040]  And that's exactly how I want him to feel.
[01:10:41.040 --> 01:10:43.040]  And the one I'm dealing with,
[01:10:43.040 --> 01:10:46.040]  I do the same thing to him.
[01:10:46.040 --> 01:10:50.040]  If it's his chief of police or if it's the mayor
[01:10:50.040 --> 01:10:56.040]  or prosecuting attorney, district judge.
[01:10:56.040 --> 01:11:00.040]  And frankly, I've got to where the one I really want
[01:11:00.040 --> 01:11:03.040]  is always the district judge.
[01:11:03.040 --> 01:11:08.040]  We always want the highest ranking individual
[01:11:08.040 --> 01:11:10.040]  in the district.
[01:11:10.040 --> 01:11:13.040]  You want to go kick him in his legal teeth.
[01:11:13.040 --> 01:11:15.040]  Once you kick him in his legal teeth,
[01:11:15.040 --> 01:11:18.040]  everybody else starts shaking in their boots
[01:11:18.040 --> 01:11:20.040]  because for the most part,
[01:11:20.040 --> 01:11:23.040]  they don't feel like that district judge
[01:11:23.040 --> 01:11:26.040]  is going to want to go before a grand jury
[01:11:26.040 --> 01:11:29.040]  because of them.
[01:11:29.040 --> 01:11:33.040]  He's going to feed them to the grand jury first.
[01:11:33.040 --> 01:11:37.040]  And that's an intelligent thing to believe.
[01:11:37.040 --> 01:11:42.040]  So in this case, that's what I suggest you do.
[01:11:42.040 --> 01:11:44.040]  File with the grand jury.
[01:11:44.040 --> 01:11:46.040]  File with the district attorney.
[01:11:46.040 --> 01:11:48.040]  Verify the criminal complaints.
[01:11:48.040 --> 01:11:50.040]  Give them to the grand jury.
[01:11:50.040 --> 01:11:51.040]  I'm sorry.
[01:11:51.040 --> 01:11:54.040]  Give the complaints to the district attorney.
[01:11:54.040 --> 01:11:58.040]  Especially the complaint against the county attorney.
[01:11:58.040 --> 01:12:02.040]  Accusing the county attorney of official oppression
[01:12:02.040 --> 01:12:06.040]  for not giving your complaints to the grand jury.
[01:12:06.040 --> 01:12:08.040]  And what the prosecutor is going to say,
[01:12:08.040 --> 01:12:09.040]  well, he can't do that.
[01:12:09.040 --> 01:12:11.040]  That's my job.
[01:12:11.040 --> 01:12:15.040]  And we're going to say that's not what the code says.
[01:12:15.040 --> 01:12:16.040]  Yeah, right.
[01:12:16.040 --> 01:12:20.040]  The code doesn't say when a district attorney
[01:12:20.040 --> 01:12:23.040]  is made known that a public official violated the law.
[01:12:23.040 --> 01:12:25.040]  That's not what it said.
[01:12:25.040 --> 01:12:30.040]  It says when a prosecuting attorney.
[01:12:30.040 --> 01:12:35.040]  Now, it can't be construed that the legislature
[01:12:35.040 --> 01:12:43.040]  somehow missed the distinction between municipal, county, district.
[01:12:43.040 --> 01:12:48.040]  They were very well aware of those distinctions.
[01:12:48.040 --> 01:12:52.040]  The fact that they did not state district attorney
[01:12:52.040 --> 01:12:57.040]  has to be considered that it was done on purpose.
[01:12:57.040 --> 01:13:02.040]  They clearly met any prosecuting attorney
[01:13:02.040 --> 01:13:06.040]  who is made known that a crime has been committed by a public official.
[01:13:06.040 --> 01:13:08.040]  He must have reduced complaints and information
[01:13:08.040 --> 01:13:10.040]  to submit it to the grand jury.
[01:13:10.040 --> 01:13:12.040]  So you accuse the prosecutor of that.
[01:13:12.040 --> 01:13:20.040]  And the district attorney is going to be legitimately concerned.
[01:13:20.040 --> 01:13:22.040]  He's going to have legitimate questions.
[01:13:22.040 --> 01:13:23.040]  Good.
[01:13:23.040 --> 01:13:26.040]  It's good to ask him a really hard question
[01:13:26.040 --> 01:13:29.040]  that he doesn't know the answer to.
[01:13:29.040 --> 01:13:33.040]  It's even better when you already know the answer.
[01:13:33.040 --> 01:13:37.040]  The district attorney in Cherokee County I was talking to
[01:13:37.040 --> 01:13:42.040]  when I told him what I was planning to do,
[01:13:42.040 --> 01:13:46.040]  and he said, well, he wouldn't take a complaint if it was frivolous.
[01:13:46.040 --> 01:13:51.040]  That's when I accused a police officer of aggravated kidnapping
[01:13:51.040 --> 01:13:56.040]  for arresting someone when they refused to identify themselves.
[01:13:56.040 --> 01:14:01.040]  The statute makes it a crime to refuse to identify yourself
[01:14:01.040 --> 01:14:06.040]  only after you have been arrested.
[01:14:06.040 --> 01:14:13.040]  So to arrest someone in the first instance for not identifying themselves
[01:14:13.040 --> 01:14:15.040]  violates the statute.
[01:14:15.040 --> 01:14:20.040]  You have to already have probable cause on something else
[01:14:20.040 --> 01:14:23.040]  and have them arrested for something else.
[01:14:23.040 --> 01:14:27.040]  Then you can charge them with failure to identify if they refuse.
[01:14:27.040 --> 01:14:30.040]  Yeah, that's right, because this is not a show-your-paper society.
[01:14:30.040 --> 01:14:32.040]  At least, well, we're kind of moving towards that.
[01:14:32.040 --> 01:14:34.040]  Your papers had a doctor.
[01:14:34.040 --> 01:14:35.040]  I know, that's right.
[01:14:35.040 --> 01:14:37.040]  Well, we're kind of moving towards that.
[01:14:37.040 --> 01:14:38.040]  Not quite yet.
[01:14:38.040 --> 01:14:42.040]  But we're not there yet, at least not in this state, not in Austin.
[01:14:42.040 --> 01:14:44.040]  That's when he said frivolous, and I told him,
[01:14:44.040 --> 01:14:48.040]  you don't have to worry, I will never give you a frivolous complaint.
[01:14:48.040 --> 01:14:51.040]  Well, I don't know if I'm going to give it to the grand jury well.
[01:14:51.040 --> 01:14:53.040]  You don't have a choice.
[01:14:53.040 --> 01:14:55.040]  I kind of hope you don't.
[01:14:55.040 --> 01:14:59.040]  And that was not what he expected to hear.
[01:14:59.040 --> 01:15:02.040]  So I let his cat out of the bag,
[01:15:02.040 --> 01:15:05.040]  because I'm really trying to get him to drop some complaints
[01:15:05.040 --> 01:15:07.040]  against a friend of mine.
[01:15:07.040 --> 01:15:11.040]  So I really wasn't there to set him up, just to beat him up.
[01:15:11.040 --> 01:15:13.040]  Oh, yes, you were.
[01:15:13.040 --> 01:15:16.040]  I was trying to give him reason to keep me from coming in there
[01:15:16.040 --> 01:15:19.040]  and beating him up, or gave him opportunity.
[01:15:19.040 --> 01:15:20.040]  Good luck.
[01:15:20.040 --> 01:15:21.040]  But he didn't.
[01:15:21.040 --> 01:15:24.040]  So I'll just go down and roll right over him.
[01:15:24.040 --> 01:15:29.040]  And now he finds out that I wasn't kidding, that I meant business.
[01:15:29.040 --> 01:15:33.040]  I had his investigator a month or so ago,
[01:15:33.040 --> 01:15:36.040]  when I was trying to find minutes of the grand jury,
[01:15:36.040 --> 01:15:38.040]  and he didn't know what I was talking about.
[01:15:38.040 --> 01:15:41.040]  And I told him that I had filed some criminal complaints
[01:15:41.040 --> 01:15:43.040]  with the attorney's office, and they didn't.
[01:15:43.040 --> 01:15:46.040]  And as far as I can, I need to find out if he actually gave them
[01:15:46.040 --> 01:15:48.040]  to the grand jury, because if he didn't,
[01:15:48.040 --> 01:15:51.040]  then I'll be filing criminal charges against him.
[01:15:51.040 --> 01:15:54.040]  And he accused me of making a threat.
[01:15:54.040 --> 01:15:57.040]  Oh, oh, wait, wait, you are mistaken.
[01:15:57.040 --> 01:16:03.040]  I assure you, I am not making a threat of any kind.
[01:16:03.040 --> 01:16:08.040]  I promise you, when I look at the minutes of the grand jury,
[01:16:08.040 --> 01:16:11.040]  and I don't find a reference to these names with a true bill,
[01:16:11.040 --> 01:16:14.040]  no more bill or pass, I promise you,
[01:16:14.040 --> 01:16:18.040]  I will come down there with criminal complaints against that district attorney,
[01:16:18.040 --> 01:16:23.040]  and I will give them to the grand jury myself.
[01:16:23.040 --> 01:16:27.040]  That's not a threat.
[01:16:27.040 --> 01:16:31.040]  And right about that point, he got real easy to get along with.
[01:16:31.040 --> 01:16:32.040]  I bet.
[01:16:32.040 --> 01:16:34.040]  All right, listen, we're going to break.
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[01:18:12.040 --> 01:18:17.040]  So now you're police, you got me up against the wall
[01:18:17.040 --> 01:18:22.040]  Nowhere to run to, but I never felt so tough
[01:18:22.040 --> 01:18:28.040]  You brought your big guns, it doesn't bother me at all
[01:18:28.040 --> 01:18:33.040]  The harder you will push, the harder you will fall
[01:18:33.040 --> 01:18:39.040]  Everybody needs somebody to depend on
[01:18:39.040 --> 01:18:44.040]  So help your brother to stand alone
[01:18:44.040 --> 01:18:50.040]  Everybody needs somebody to depend on
[01:18:50.040 --> 01:19:05.040]  So help your sister to stand alone
[01:19:05.040 --> 01:19:10.040]  So now your money got me into the poorhouse
[01:19:10.040 --> 01:19:16.040]  Isn't it funny, the water, water everywhere
[01:19:16.040 --> 01:19:21.040]  Not much for drinking, and it got me just thinking
[01:19:21.040 --> 01:19:27.040]  Plenty for bombers, but not a dollar to spare
[01:19:27.040 --> 01:19:32.040]  Everybody needs somebody to depend on
[01:19:32.040 --> 01:19:38.040]  So help your brother to stand alone
[01:19:38.040 --> 01:19:43.040]  Everybody needs somebody to depend on
[01:19:43.040 --> 01:20:00.040]  So help your sister to stand alone
[01:20:00.040 --> 01:20:10.040]  Stand alone, you better stand alone, stand alone
[01:20:10.040 --> 01:20:21.040]  So help your sister to stand alone
[01:20:21.040 --> 01:20:26.040]  Stand alone, you better stand alone, stand alone
[01:20:26.040 --> 01:20:30.040]  Stand alone, you better stand alone, stand alone
[01:20:30.040 --> 01:20:37.040]  Everybody needs somebody to depend on
[01:20:37.040 --> 01:20:42.040]  So help your sister to stand alone
[01:20:42.040 --> 01:21:09.040]  So help your sister to stand alone
[01:21:09.040 --> 01:21:19.040]  So now your lawyers, you got me into the courthouse
[01:21:19.040 --> 01:21:24.040]  Whole lot of jargon, when common sense they do fine
[01:21:24.040 --> 01:21:29.040]  And when you ask me about the freedom for the people
[01:21:29.040 --> 01:21:35.040]  Each one must look toward the heart, eventually for a sign
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[01:23:25.040 --> 01:23:32.040]  I mean, Chris, Emery and I, we're going over the listenership, okay, of the FM and AM stations
[01:23:32.040 --> 01:23:40.040]  And in standard radio stats in the industry of radio, how radio stations figure out what their listenership is
[01:23:40.040 --> 01:23:45.040]  Is they look at the total population they're broadcasting to, the demographics
[01:23:45.040 --> 01:23:52.040]  And they take 10% of that, okay, and for low power, they take 5%
[01:23:52.040 --> 01:23:58.040]  Well, we took 5% of the total population of all the cities we're broadcasting to
[01:23:58.040 --> 01:24:07.040]  And according to standard radio industry stats, our listenership is about 180,000 people, okay
[01:24:07.040 --> 01:24:12.040]  Now let's just say half of that, let's just say our listenership is 90,000 people
[01:24:12.040 --> 01:24:18.040]  Man, if every one of you guys, if there was actually 90,000 people listening, which I'm sure there is
[01:24:18.040 --> 01:24:25.040]  Gave me $1, okay, you would not believe how much it would help me, okay
[01:24:25.040 --> 01:24:28.040]  And then we could give some money to Randy's beer fund
[01:24:28.040 --> 01:24:30.040]  Beer fund, yeah, it would only take a dime
[01:24:30.040 --> 01:24:35.040]  Okay, so really people, okay, all the donations that I've received, people have given me $10, $5
[01:24:35.040 --> 01:24:38.040]  Believe me, we like the little donations as much as the big ones
[01:24:38.040 --> 01:24:43.040]  Because if everyone gave me just a little bit of money, okay
[01:24:43.040 --> 01:24:48.040]  I could dig myself out of this hole that I've dug myself into, setting up this network
[01:24:48.040 --> 01:24:53.040]  And we could hire producers and put on more great programming
[01:24:53.040 --> 01:24:58.040]  And we could improve greatly, so please, please, please help us out
[01:24:58.040 --> 01:25:04.040]  Because you just have no idea how hard I've been working and how much of my own money I have spent on this
[01:25:04.040 --> 01:25:08.040]  Okay, I'm practically in a panic about it, so I need help
[01:25:08.040 --> 01:25:12.040]  All right, thank you very much, that's all I'm going to say for now about that
[01:25:12.040 --> 01:25:15.040]  So, Randy, please continue with
[01:25:15.040 --> 01:25:17.040]  Do I get equal beer fund time?
[01:25:17.040 --> 01:25:22.040]  Yeah, you want to rant about how much you need a beer, some beer money?
[01:25:22.040 --> 01:25:25.040]  Yeah, and I don't even drink beer, but I could use a beer fund
[01:25:25.040 --> 01:25:29.040]  All right, well, I'll buy you a beer tomorrow, okay, or maybe later
[01:25:29.040 --> 01:25:32.040]  But then Jerry would drink it because I don't like the stuff
[01:25:32.040 --> 01:25:35.040]  All right, well, we'll have to buy you a different drink, a rum and coke or something
[01:25:35.040 --> 01:25:39.040]  And we do have Marcus from Virginia on the line if you want to take his call first
[01:25:39.040 --> 01:25:40.040]  Or what do you want to do, Randy?
[01:25:40.040 --> 01:25:47.040]  I wanted to finish up on grand juries and how this is supposed to work
[01:25:47.040 --> 01:25:50.040]  And why it all fits together so well
[01:25:50.040 --> 01:25:56.040]  See, grand jurors are supposed to examine into criminal accusations that come to their knowledge
[01:25:56.040 --> 01:26:00.040]  By way of the prosecuting attorney or an incredible person
[01:26:00.040 --> 01:26:06.040]  In order for them to have a criminal accusation, somebody has to make a criminal accusation
[01:26:06.040 --> 01:26:10.040]  And a criminal accusation is defined as a complaint
[01:26:10.040 --> 01:26:14.040]  It's defined in 15.05 Code of Criminal Procedure
[01:26:14.040 --> 01:26:18.040]  It says what must be in it and what constitutes a criminal accusation
[01:26:18.040 --> 01:26:21.040]  Then they examine into the accusation
[01:26:21.040 --> 01:26:31.040]  If they vote to true bill, the foreman requests that the prosecutor prepare an indictment
[01:26:31.040 --> 01:26:37.040]  And then they take that indictment and read it to the court
[01:26:37.040 --> 01:26:41.040]  And the clerk makes notations on the minutes of the court
[01:26:41.040 --> 01:26:46.040]  This is really pretty simple stuff and it's pretty straightforward
[01:26:46.040 --> 01:26:57.040]  There are key provisions in there to keep prosecutors or others from circumventing the system
[01:26:57.040 --> 01:27:05.040]  Like the requirement that a quorum of the grand jury be present when they go before the clerk
[01:27:05.040 --> 01:27:11.040]  I live in Wise County, Texas, and the last time I was there, I asked the clerk, how do you get indictments?
[01:27:11.040 --> 01:27:15.040]  And she said, well, the foreman and the prosecutor generally bring them down to me
[01:27:15.040 --> 01:27:20.040]  Say what? So how do you know if the grand jury really voted on them?
[01:27:20.040 --> 01:27:24.040]  How do you know that the foreman and the prosecutor are not in cahoots?
[01:27:24.040 --> 01:27:29.040]  And just get in the foreman to stamp them and bring them down?
[01:27:29.040 --> 01:27:32.040]  She said, well, I don't
[01:27:32.040 --> 01:27:34.040]  Then what are you doing taking them?
[01:27:34.040 --> 01:27:38.040]  She had no idea. This is the way they've always done it and nobody's ever questioned it
[01:27:38.040 --> 01:27:42.040]  I go around asking for the minutes of the grand jury
[01:27:42.040 --> 01:27:48.040]  And almost no one has any idea what I'm talking about
[01:27:48.040 --> 01:27:51.040]  Of course they don't because they don't deal with them
[01:27:51.040 --> 01:27:57.040]  The prosecutor doesn't even want minutes of the grand jury
[01:27:57.040 --> 01:28:04.040]  Right, and in a lot of places the prosecutor actually holds the minutes of the grand jury
[01:28:04.040 --> 01:28:06.040]  Yeah, oh man
[01:28:06.040 --> 01:28:07.040]  So what is the point?
[01:28:07.040 --> 01:28:09.040]  What's the deal with that?
[01:28:09.040 --> 01:28:16.040]  It's a waste of time if the clerk is not going to hold the minutes in her protection
[01:28:16.040 --> 01:28:17.040]  No kidding
[01:28:17.040 --> 01:28:23.040]  Then the prosecutor can take those minutes and do anything with them he wants to
[01:28:23.040 --> 01:28:24.040]  I mean, give me a break
[01:28:24.040 --> 01:28:30.040]  I mean, well, if the prosecutor can hold the minutes, why can't the defense? You know?
[01:28:30.040 --> 01:28:36.040]  That was, this gets even worse in the federal venue
[01:28:36.040 --> 01:28:37.040]  Okay
[01:28:37.040 --> 01:28:39.040]  In the federal venue
[01:28:39.040 --> 01:28:41.040]  I know, I remember Tony saying something about it
[01:28:41.040 --> 01:28:44.040]  They're actually authorized to keep all of these records
[01:28:44.040 --> 01:28:46.040]  It's just awful, it's just awful
[01:28:46.040 --> 01:28:54.040]  And because that's happening, what they're doing in the federal courts
[01:28:54.040 --> 01:28:59.040]  What the prosecutors are doing is just a horrendous mess
[01:28:59.040 --> 01:29:04.040]  Essentially the prosecutor can do anything he wants to
[01:29:04.040 --> 01:29:10.040]  And answers to nobody because he keeps all the records
[01:29:10.040 --> 01:29:18.040]  Nobody can question what he does because he can take the records and do anything to them he wants to
[01:29:18.040 --> 01:29:26.040]  And I'm opening my writ of habeas corpus as a special citation I'm looking for in here
[01:29:26.040 --> 01:29:35.040]  Where it talks about the complicated process of the criminal justice system and all of those pieces being in there for a purpose
[01:29:35.040 --> 01:29:36.040]  I'll have it after the break
[01:29:36.040 --> 01:29:38.040]  Okay, yeah, we're going to break now, we'll be right back
[01:29:38.040 --> 01:29:42.040]  This is Deborah Stevens, Randy Stevens, I'm sorry, Randy Kelton
[01:29:42.040 --> 01:29:48.040]  Deborah Stevens, Randy Kelton on the Rule of Law, Rule of Law Radio, we'll be right back
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[01:30:56.040 --> 01:31:16.040]  Yeah, I'll say, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
[01:31:16.040 --> 01:31:37.040]  All right, throw it away, kick them away, throw the vote machines away, indeed
[01:31:37.040 --> 01:31:40.040]  You know, Randy, okay, I want you to finish up on the story
[01:31:40.040 --> 01:31:44.040]  But just hearing the song, you know, one of our songs, Three Shoes Posse, of course
[01:31:44.040 --> 01:31:47.040]  Three Shoes Posse, go to threeshoesposse.com
[01:31:47.040 --> 01:31:52.040]  It means we give the bad guys three shoes, two on their feet, and one you-know-where
[01:31:52.040 --> 01:31:54.040]  Kick them right in the butt
[01:31:54.040 --> 01:32:05.040]  But at any rate, I was listening to this one election judge and his cohort from Voting Machine Company
[01:32:05.040 --> 01:32:11.040]  Trying to justify the fact that these voting machines count in secret
[01:32:11.040 --> 01:32:14.040]  And there's no way to have any oversight over the counting
[01:32:14.040 --> 01:32:18.040]  And they said, well, the voting machine's not counting in secret
[01:32:18.040 --> 01:32:20.040]  It's counting in public
[01:32:20.040 --> 01:32:25.040]  And look, and it's like the voting machine is right in the middle of the floor
[01:32:25.040 --> 01:32:30.040]  The central tabulator, it's sitting there right in the middle of the floor where everyone can watch it
[01:32:30.040 --> 01:32:39.040]  It's just like, oh my God, that is your idea of oversight and public view of the counting
[01:32:39.040 --> 01:32:46.040]  That, okay, the box, the computer that's doing the counting is sitting in the middle of the floor where everyone can watch it
[01:32:46.040 --> 01:32:48.040]  Well, duh
[01:32:48.040 --> 01:32:50.040]  I want to see the bits
[01:32:50.040 --> 01:32:53.040]  Can you show me the software, please?
[01:32:53.040 --> 01:32:57.040]  And besides that, there's just no way to track the votes, you know
[01:32:57.040 --> 01:33:01.040]  And Ken Magnuson, if you're out there listening, I know you're an election judge
[01:33:01.040 --> 01:33:05.040]  I know you think nothing's wrong with it, but let me tell you something, buddy
[01:33:05.040 --> 01:33:11.040]  You have no idea, you have no way to know what anyone is voting
[01:33:11.040 --> 01:33:16.040]  All you see is what that machine tells you after the votes are cast
[01:33:16.040 --> 01:33:18.040]  Now give me a break
[01:33:18.040 --> 01:33:20.040]  I know Ken can't be that ignorant
[01:33:20.040 --> 01:33:22.040]  Okay, let's continue on, Randy
[01:33:22.040 --> 01:33:26.040]  We've got Marcus from Virginia, and Marcus, we're going to get to your call real quick
[01:33:26.040 --> 01:33:30.040]  So right after Randy finishes his topic here
[01:33:30.040 --> 01:33:39.040]  Yeah, I've been spending time going through the code statute by statute and trying to weave them together
[01:33:39.040 --> 01:33:45.040]  And there's a real good reason for that, and the courts have addressed that
[01:33:45.040 --> 01:33:51.040]  Here in, let's see if we can find out who it's from
[01:33:51.040 --> 01:33:55.040]  U.S. v. McNabb
[01:33:55.040 --> 01:34:03.040]  The courts held, the purpose of this impressively pervasive requirement of criminal procedure is plain
[01:34:03.040 --> 01:34:09.040]  A democratic society in which respect for the dignity of all men is central
[01:34:09.040 --> 01:34:14.040]  Naturally guards against the misuse of the law enforcement process
[01:34:14.040 --> 01:34:20.040]  Zeal in tracking down crime is not in itself an assurance of soberness of judgment
[01:34:20.040 --> 01:34:21.040]  No kidding
[01:34:21.040 --> 01:34:27.040]  Disenteredness in law enforcement does not alone prevent disregard of cherished liberties
[01:34:27.040 --> 01:34:36.040]  Experience has therefore counseled that safeguards must be provided against the dangers of the overzealous as well as the despotic
[01:34:36.040 --> 01:34:46.040]  In fact, overzeal in tracing down justice can actually lead to poor judgment
[01:34:46.040 --> 01:34:49.040]  It certainly doesn't insure judgment
[01:34:49.040 --> 01:34:55.040]  The awful instruments of the criminal law cannot be entrusted to a single functionary
[01:34:55.040 --> 01:35:00.040]  The complicated process of criminal justice is therefore divided into different parts
[01:35:00.040 --> 01:35:09.040]  Responsibility for which is separately vested in the various participants upon whom the criminal law relies for its vindication
[01:35:09.040 --> 01:35:20.040]  We advocate legislation such as this requiring that the police must with reasonable promptness show legal cause for detaining an arrested person constitutes an important safeguard
[01:35:20.040 --> 01:35:35.040]  Not only in assuring protection of the innocent, but also in securing conviction of the guilty by methods that commend themselves to a progressive and self-confident society
[01:35:35.040 --> 01:35:52.040]  We must insure that our officials follow all of our laws and it is our duty to use all of the checks and balances available to make absolutely certain that they do so
[01:35:52.040 --> 01:36:02.040]  And in reading the law and studying it, it is clear that all of the checks and balances we need are there
[01:36:02.040 --> 01:36:13.040]  These problems exist from no lack of law. These problems exist from lack of will to enforce law
[01:36:13.040 --> 01:36:16.040]  Indeed, absolutely
[01:36:16.040 --> 01:36:18.040]  Let's go to Marcus now
[01:36:18.040 --> 01:36:20.040]  Okay, we're going to go to Marcus
[01:36:20.040 --> 01:36:21.040]  Hi Deborah
[01:36:21.040 --> 01:36:24.040]  Hey Marcus, how are you doing tonight?
[01:36:24.040 --> 01:36:26.040]  Okay
[01:36:26.040 --> 01:36:28.040]  Okay, what's on your mind?
[01:36:28.040 --> 01:36:43.040]  Well, it's about my traffic case and I was just kind of wondering something about a year ago you had a lady on who had a vision problem as she was driving
[01:36:43.040 --> 01:36:51.040]  And I was just kind of wondering if there's a way I could contact her or if you could send her a message for me
[01:36:51.040 --> 01:36:56.040]  I have no idea who you're talking about
[01:36:56.040 --> 01:36:58.040]  Okay, well
[01:36:58.040 --> 01:37:02.040]  The problem is I've slept since then
[01:37:02.040 --> 01:37:08.040]  My problem is that we've had hundreds if not thousands of callers since then
[01:37:08.040 --> 01:37:09.040]  Yeah, I'm sure
[01:37:09.040 --> 01:37:13.040]  Can you give us a little more detail about her?
[01:37:13.040 --> 01:37:21.040]  Oh, she was, she, I can't remember exactly but she definitely had a vision problem and she's the only one I know that's been on here so
[01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:23.040]  More like that
[01:37:23.040 --> 01:37:26.040]  Was she a guest? Was she a guest?
[01:37:26.040 --> 01:37:35.040]  No, she wasn't a guest, she was dealing with a cop and she was very upset about it and I can definitely relate to that
[01:37:35.040 --> 01:37:43.040]  Oh yeah, especially if she wasn't a guest I'm sure there's no way we would be able to contact her because I mean we don't really have phone numbers
[01:37:43.040 --> 01:37:44.040]  All of our archives
[01:37:44.040 --> 01:37:49.040]  Yeah, but we don't write down phone numbers of everyone who calls us, Randy
[01:37:49.040 --> 01:37:52.040]  Well, Marcus could just listen to all of our archives
[01:37:52.040 --> 01:37:56.040]  But then he still wouldn't know what the phone number is and neither would we honestly
[01:37:56.040 --> 01:38:00.040]  I mean that phone log is a year old, I don't even think it exists anymore
[01:38:00.040 --> 01:38:01.040]  Oh, okay
[01:38:01.040 --> 01:38:06.040]  That's the problem, how am I going to look up when, even if he knew what date
[01:38:06.040 --> 01:38:10.040]  I don't even think I could look up the log at this point to see what her number is
[01:38:10.040 --> 01:38:13.040]  I was just trying to con him into listening to all our archives
[01:38:13.040 --> 01:38:16.040]  Okay, well you can do that
[01:38:16.040 --> 01:38:22.040]  Sorry Marcus, that's just a little bit too old of information for us to be able to retrieve
[01:38:22.040 --> 01:38:23.040]  Right
[01:38:23.040 --> 01:38:26.040]  Marcus, didn't you call in the other day on Friday?
[01:38:26.040 --> 01:38:30.040]  Yeah, a couple times, I could get in at the last minute
[01:38:30.040 --> 01:38:34.040]  Yeah, you were at the last minute, kind of bring us up to speed on where you're at with your ticket
[01:38:34.040 --> 01:38:44.040]  Okay, well I did go in on January 6th and basically I was held till dead last and while everybody else got processed through
[01:38:44.040 --> 01:38:47.040]  and you know, the usual thing
[01:38:47.040 --> 01:38:49.040]  Are you still there? Because I hear
[01:38:49.040 --> 01:38:50.040]  Yeah, we're here
[01:38:50.040 --> 01:38:51.040]  Yeah, go ahead
[01:38:51.040 --> 01:38:59.040]  Okay, basically the judge told me that he wants to have me file all my motions and handwriting
[01:38:59.040 --> 01:39:05.040]  and Markham gives him a copy that's marked personal and confidential
[01:39:05.040 --> 01:39:10.040]  and gives a copy to the attorney and all that
[01:39:10.040 --> 01:39:15.040]  but my next date is February 6th
[01:39:15.040 --> 01:39:20.040]  but what I want to talk about is imperimateria
[01:39:20.040 --> 01:39:33.040]  and I got a couple of cases here that say that the motor vehicle code should be read as a whole
[01:39:33.040 --> 01:39:39.040]  That's imperimateria
[01:39:39.040 --> 01:39:40.040]  Did we lose you?
[01:39:40.040 --> 01:39:41.040]  Are you still there?
[01:39:41.040 --> 01:39:42.040]  Yes
[01:39:42.040 --> 01:39:43.040]  Oh, okay
[01:39:43.040 --> 01:39:44.040]  I can hear you
[01:39:44.040 --> 01:39:45.040]  Okay
[01:39:45.040 --> 01:39:50.040]  So have you read the motor vehicle code?
[01:39:50.040 --> 01:39:56.040]  Well, yeah, I've read all the relevant statutes as far as I know
[01:39:56.040 --> 01:39:59.040]  Sometimes it's hard to tell what's relevant
[01:39:59.040 --> 01:40:03.040]  It's a good idea just to kind of cruise through it
[01:40:03.040 --> 01:40:10.040]  and don't try to understand it, just kind of cruise through them, you will be surprised at the gems you will find in there
[01:40:10.040 --> 01:40:15.040]  Especially if you just kind of cruise through it and then go back and cruise through it a second time
[01:40:15.040 --> 01:40:16.040]  Right
[01:40:16.040 --> 01:40:20.040]  Then you begin to understand it imperimateria
[01:40:20.040 --> 01:40:23.040]  and you find all sorts of really neat little things
[01:40:23.040 --> 01:40:29.040]  I had a fellow call me about a ticket for failure deal right away
[01:40:29.040 --> 01:40:34.040]  and my first question was, what are the elements of the crime?
[01:40:34.040 --> 01:40:36.040]  He said, well, I don't know
[01:40:36.040 --> 01:40:39.040]  And he was a fellow researcher
[01:40:39.040 --> 01:40:43.040]  I said, duh, go read the code
[01:40:43.040 --> 01:40:45.040]  He called me back laughing
[01:40:45.040 --> 01:40:47.040]  He read the code to me
[01:40:47.040 --> 01:40:54.040]  It is a crime to fail to yield right away while exiting an alley
[01:40:54.040 --> 01:40:56.040]  I said, okay, what's the next paragraph?
[01:40:56.040 --> 01:41:00.040]  He said, there is no next paragraph
[01:41:00.040 --> 01:41:02.040]  I said, say what?
[01:41:02.040 --> 01:41:10.040]  In Texas, the statute for failure to yield right away only applies to exiting an alley
[01:41:10.040 --> 01:41:21.040]  I was in court and a guy is in there getting a jury trial over failure to yield right away
[01:41:21.040 --> 01:41:26.040]  I'm giving the judge a hard time because they gave me some tickets and I filed criminal charges against them
[01:41:26.040 --> 01:41:29.040]  I'm just working them over just for the fun of it
[01:41:29.040 --> 01:41:32.040]  The judge stomped out of the courtroom
[01:41:32.040 --> 01:41:34.040]  She had to go check something
[01:41:34.040 --> 01:41:38.040]  I leaned over to this attorney and I asked him, have you read the statute lately?
[01:41:38.040 --> 01:41:43.040]  Because this guy made a right turn on read
[01:41:43.040 --> 01:41:45.040]  He said, well, not lately
[01:41:45.040 --> 01:41:49.040]  You need to get it and read it
[01:41:49.040 --> 01:41:55.040]  He gave me a strange look and went up to the judge's desk and fished around and pulled out a transportation code
[01:41:55.040 --> 01:41:58.040]  The judge is coming back in
[01:41:58.040 --> 01:42:04.040]  This attorney's got his back to the judge and he looks up at me and he's got a grin from ear to ear
[01:42:04.040 --> 01:42:07.040]  He just won the case
[01:42:07.040 --> 01:42:11.040]  Reading the code, but that's not the best thing you find
[01:42:11.040 --> 01:42:17.040]  You'll begin to see how all these pieces fit together
[01:42:17.040 --> 01:42:22.040]  It's like I've done with the criminal code in Texas
[01:42:22.040 --> 01:42:25.040]  I've read through it several times
[01:42:25.040 --> 01:42:28.040]  Each time I go through it, frankly, I find new things
[01:42:28.040 --> 01:42:30.040]  Things that I hadn't
[01:42:30.040 --> 01:42:37.040]  I didn't have enough pieces in place for that last piece to fall in
[01:42:37.040 --> 01:42:42.040]  After the second time, it gets a lot more interesting
[01:42:42.040 --> 01:42:48.040]  Because you begin to understand how all of this fits together
[01:42:48.040 --> 01:42:56.040]  And then when you talk to one of these prosecutors, those chumps are out of their league
[01:42:56.040 --> 01:43:05.040]  Probably my favorite statute was one in the Code of Criminal Procedure 17.05
[01:43:05.040 --> 01:43:17.040]  It said, Bail is taken by a magistrate after an examining trial by a judge in habeas corpus
[01:43:17.040 --> 01:43:20.040]  By a police officer under 1720, 21, 22
[01:43:20.040 --> 01:43:29.040]  I probably read that thing 50 times before it actually dawned on me when I was reading
[01:43:29.040 --> 01:43:31.040]  We're about to go to break
[01:43:31.040 --> 01:43:36.040]  Explain why this is important and you'll see the importance of reading all of them
[01:43:36.040 --> 01:43:39.040]  Okay, yes, and we also have Stephen from Minnesota
[01:43:39.040 --> 01:43:42.040]  We'll be right back. This is the Rule of Law on Rule of Law Radio
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[01:45:33.040 --> 01:45:37.040]  Some things in this world I will never understand
[01:45:37.040 --> 01:45:41.040]  Some things I realize foolish
[01:45:41.040 --> 01:45:46.040]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman
[01:45:46.040 --> 01:45:50.040]  Somebody's gonna police the police
[01:45:50.040 --> 01:45:54.040]  There's always a room at the top of the hill
[01:45:54.040 --> 01:45:59.040]  I hear things are great mine and it's lonely there too
[01:45:59.040 --> 01:46:03.040]  They're wishing investment and opposition to build
[01:46:03.040 --> 01:46:07.040]  They know that if they don't do it somebody will
[01:46:07.040 --> 01:46:11.040]  Some things in this world I will never understand
[01:46:11.040 --> 01:46:16.040]  Some things I realize foolish
[01:46:16.040 --> 01:46:20.040]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman
[01:46:20.040 --> 01:46:24.040]  Somebody's gonna police the police
[01:46:24.040 --> 01:46:26.040]  I know they will
[01:46:26.040 --> 01:46:29.040]  Yeah, they're gonna put the bill
[01:46:29.040 --> 01:46:32.040]  Cause I don't see so much in God's hands
[01:46:32.040 --> 01:46:34.040]  I know they will
[01:46:34.040 --> 01:46:36.040]  Never fail to tip back that scale
[01:46:36.040 --> 01:46:38.040]  I know they will
[01:46:38.040 --> 01:46:41.040]  Never fail to tip back that scale
[01:46:41.040 --> 01:46:43.040]  I know they will
[01:46:45.040 --> 01:46:47.040]  I know they will
[01:46:47.040 --> 01:46:49.040]  I never know
[01:46:49.040 --> 01:46:51.040]  I know they will
[01:46:51.040 --> 01:46:56.040]  I know they will
[01:46:56.040 --> 01:46:58.040]  I know they will
[01:46:58.040 --> 01:47:02.040]  Went down to that old rock quarry the other day
[01:47:02.040 --> 01:47:03.040]  I know they will
[01:47:03.040 --> 01:47:06.040]  That's where I heard that old rock quarry message
[01:47:06.040 --> 01:47:07.040]  I know they will
[01:47:07.040 --> 01:47:10.040]  He knew I always have a nest on my heavy leg
[01:47:10.040 --> 01:47:11.040]  I know they will
[01:47:11.040 --> 01:47:15.040]  I feel that my truck wave goodbye and drove away
[01:47:15.040 --> 01:47:16.040]  I know they will
[01:47:16.040 --> 01:47:19.040]  Some things in this world I will never understand
[01:47:19.040 --> 01:47:23.040]  Some things I realize foolish
[01:47:23.040 --> 01:47:28.040]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman
[01:47:28.040 --> 01:47:32.040]  Somebody's gonna police the police
[01:47:32.040 --> 01:47:34.040]  I know they will
[01:47:34.040 --> 01:47:37.040]  Yeah, they're gonna put the bill
[01:47:37.040 --> 01:47:41.040]  Cause I don't see so much in God's hands
[01:47:41.040 --> 01:47:42.040]  I know they will
[01:47:42.040 --> 01:47:45.040]  Never fail to tip back that scale
[01:47:45.040 --> 01:47:46.040]  I know they will
[01:47:46.040 --> 01:47:49.040]  Never fail to tip back that scale
[01:47:49.040 --> 01:47:50.040]  I know they will
[01:47:50.040 --> 01:47:54.040]  Yeah, I will never fail to tip back that scale
[01:47:54.040 --> 01:47:57.040]  I know they will
[01:47:57.040 --> 01:47:59.040]  I know they will
[01:47:59.040 --> 01:48:02.040]  I will never fail
[01:48:02.040 --> 01:48:05.040]  I know they will
[01:48:05.040 --> 01:48:07.040]  Yeah, I will never fail
[01:48:07.040 --> 01:48:08.040]  To tip back that scale
[01:48:08.040 --> 01:48:09.040]  I know they will
[01:48:08.040 --> 01:48:09.040]  Oh, oh, oh
[01:48:10.040 --> 01:48:15.040]  I will never fail
[01:48:15.040 --> 01:48:17.040]  I know that we'll be home
[01:48:19.040 --> 01:48:20.040]  I know that we'll
[01:48:20.040 --> 01:48:23.040]  Just another, another we'll home
[01:48:23.040 --> 01:48:24.040]  I know that we'll
[01:48:24.040 --> 01:48:27.040]  Never fail, never fail
[01:48:27.040 --> 01:48:29.040]  I know that we'll
[01:48:29.040 --> 01:48:32.040]  Just another fail
[01:48:32.040 --> 01:48:34.040]  I know that we'll
[01:48:36.040 --> 01:48:37.040]  I know that we'll
[01:48:37.040 --> 01:48:39.040]  Can do that
[01:48:39.040 --> 01:48:40.040]  When they're weak
[01:48:40.040 --> 01:48:41.040]  I know that we'll
[01:48:41.040 --> 01:48:45.040]  Can do that
[01:48:45.040 --> 01:48:47.040]  All right, you can't do that
[01:48:50.040 --> 01:48:55.040]  We know Jaja will never fail to tip back the scale
[01:48:55.040 --> 01:49:00.040]  All right, we are speaking now with Marcus in Virginia
[01:49:00.040 --> 01:49:01.040]  Marcus, go ahead
[01:49:01.040 --> 01:49:02.040]  No, wait, I was talking
[01:49:02.040 --> 01:49:03.040]  Oh, wait, okay, sorry
[01:49:03.040 --> 01:49:05.040]  I was talking about in paramateria
[01:49:05.040 --> 01:49:07.040]  Okay
[01:49:07.040 --> 01:49:10.040]  17.05, it didn't sound like much
[01:49:10.040 --> 01:49:13.040]  But in Texas, if you get arrested, they take you to
[01:49:13.040 --> 01:49:15.040]  Eventually, they take you before a magistrate
[01:49:15.040 --> 01:49:18.040]  And he does what they call a magistration
[01:49:18.040 --> 01:49:21.040]  Well, when I type magistration into Microsoft
[01:49:21.040 --> 01:49:24.040]  Where he puts the red line under, it doesn't recognize it
[01:49:24.040 --> 01:49:25.040]  Well, I don't either
[01:49:25.040 --> 01:49:27.040]  I find that nowhere in the code
[01:49:27.040 --> 01:49:30.040]  This is something they made up
[01:49:30.040 --> 01:49:33.040]  Where you go before the judge and the judge advises you
[01:49:33.040 --> 01:49:37.040]  It tells you what the charges are and what the bail is
[01:49:37.040 --> 01:49:39.040]  And that's it
[01:49:39.040 --> 01:49:41.040]  There's a whole procedure they're supposed to do
[01:49:41.040 --> 01:49:43.040]  A whole chapter in the Code of Criminal Procedure
[01:49:43.040 --> 01:49:47.040]  Chapter 16, devoted to an examining trial
[01:49:47.040 --> 01:49:48.040]  And I keep telling them
[01:49:48.040 --> 01:49:50.040]  You're supposed to give them an examining trial
[01:49:50.040 --> 01:49:53.040]  And they say, oh, no, no, all we do is a magistration
[01:49:53.040 --> 01:49:55.040]  Yeah, well, I don't see that anywhere in the code
[01:49:55.040 --> 01:49:57.040]  Much less Microsoft Word
[01:49:57.040 --> 01:50:01.040]  Well, 17.05 was the key
[01:50:01.040 --> 01:50:05.040]  In order to set bail
[01:50:05.040 --> 01:50:06.040]  And every one of them sets bail
[01:50:06.040 --> 01:50:10.040]  I asked the judge, well, who set bail?
[01:50:10.040 --> 01:50:11.040]  Well, I did
[01:50:11.040 --> 01:50:13.040]  Well, when did you set bail?
[01:50:13.040 --> 01:50:16.040]  Well, when I got the records
[01:50:16.040 --> 01:50:18.040]  He said, well, that was an examining trial
[01:50:18.040 --> 01:50:21.040]  Oh, no, that was a magistration
[01:50:21.040 --> 01:50:25.040]  You see, 14.06 orders the police officer when he arrests you
[01:50:25.040 --> 01:50:28.040]  To take you directly to the nearest magistrate
[01:50:28.040 --> 01:50:31.040]  Not to the jail, not somewhere else
[01:50:31.040 --> 01:50:34.040]  But directly to the magistrate and explain himself
[01:50:34.040 --> 01:50:37.040]  And the magistrate's supposed to hold an examining trial
[01:50:37.040 --> 01:50:40.040]  To determine the sufficiency of the allegation
[01:50:40.040 --> 01:50:43.040]  And then either release a person
[01:50:43.040 --> 01:50:45.040]  If he doesn't find probable cause
[01:50:45.040 --> 01:50:50.040]  Or set bail or confine him to the court
[01:50:50.040 --> 01:50:52.040]  And they're saying, oh, no, that's not what they're doing
[01:50:52.040 --> 01:50:53.040]  They're not doing an examining trial
[01:50:53.040 --> 01:50:56.040]  Where you listen to both sides and determine
[01:50:56.040 --> 01:50:59.040]  Whether or not it's cause to hold him
[01:50:59.040 --> 01:51:00.040]  All we do is a magistration
[01:51:00.040 --> 01:51:01.040]  We just advise them of the rights
[01:51:01.040 --> 01:51:03.040]  And tell them what bail is
[01:51:03.040 --> 01:51:06.040]  And go
[01:51:06.040 --> 01:51:11.040]  I said, well, okay, who set bail when?
[01:51:11.040 --> 01:51:15.040]  Because according to 17.05
[01:51:15.040 --> 01:51:18.040]  The only time a magistrate can set bail
[01:51:18.040 --> 01:51:20.040]  Is after an examining trial
[01:51:20.040 --> 01:51:23.040]  So if the bail has been set
[01:51:23.040 --> 01:51:26.040]  Someone held an examining trial
[01:51:26.040 --> 01:51:29.040]  When did you do it and where and why
[01:51:29.040 --> 01:51:31.040]  Wasn't the defendant present?
[01:51:31.040 --> 01:51:33.040]  Or they were just breaking the law and just set bail
[01:51:33.040 --> 01:51:35.040]  Even though there wasn't an examining trial?
[01:51:35.040 --> 01:51:37.040]  Deborah was there in Williamson County
[01:51:37.040 --> 01:51:42.040]  When I told it to that magistrate
[01:51:42.040 --> 01:51:44.040]  And he's saying what he's trying
[01:51:44.040 --> 01:51:46.040]  He's an attorney and he's trying to explain what he's doing
[01:51:46.040 --> 01:51:48.040]  Why what he's doing is right
[01:51:48.040 --> 01:51:51.040]  And when I'm saying
[01:51:51.040 --> 01:51:53.040]  I'm giving him all these other statutes
[01:51:53.040 --> 01:51:55.040]  And he's not getting it
[01:51:55.040 --> 01:51:58.040]  And when I quoted 17.05 to him
[01:51:58.040 --> 01:52:01.040]  You could see his eyes go out of focus
[01:52:01.040 --> 01:52:02.040]  Oh yeah, you really could
[01:52:02.040 --> 01:52:04.040]  And it's almost as if you could hear
[01:52:04.040 --> 01:52:07.040]  The little gears clicking into place
[01:52:07.040 --> 01:52:11.040]  And he got this deer in the headlights look
[01:52:11.040 --> 01:52:13.040]  Oops
[01:52:13.040 --> 01:52:17.040]  That's when he asked me if I would be satisfied
[01:52:17.040 --> 01:52:18.040]  If within a couple of weeks
[01:52:18.040 --> 01:52:20.040]  They got all this straightened out
[01:52:20.040 --> 01:52:23.040]  You bet I would
[01:52:23.040 --> 01:52:27.040]  Why was I not surprised when they didn't get it straightened out?
[01:52:27.040 --> 01:52:29.040]  You see this judge
[01:52:29.040 --> 01:52:31.040]  When I told that one to him
[01:52:31.040 --> 01:52:33.040]  He got it
[01:52:33.040 --> 01:52:35.040]  In paramateria
[01:52:35.040 --> 01:52:39.040]  He saw then how all of these other pieces fit together
[01:52:39.040 --> 01:52:41.040]  Why they were important
[01:52:41.040 --> 01:52:43.040]  And I have no doubt he went to these other folks
[01:52:43.040 --> 01:52:45.040]  And tried to get them to do it right
[01:52:45.040 --> 01:52:47.040]  And they just simply blew him off
[01:52:47.040 --> 01:52:49.040]  But now I'm going to get to sue the crap
[01:52:49.040 --> 01:52:50.040]  All out of them
[01:52:50.040 --> 01:52:53.040]  But anyway, reading it two or three times
[01:52:53.040 --> 01:52:57.040]  You don't have to sit down and just grind and study it
[01:52:57.040 --> 01:52:58.040]  That doesn't work well
[01:52:58.040 --> 01:52:59.040]  Just read through it
[01:52:59.040 --> 01:53:00.040]  Sit through it
[01:53:00.040 --> 01:53:01.040]  I went to Pennsylvania
[01:53:01.040 --> 01:53:04.040]  Took me two hours to read their penal code
[01:53:04.040 --> 01:53:08.040]  And I found some whoppers in there
[01:53:08.040 --> 01:53:11.040]  I found one that was humongous
[01:53:11.040 --> 01:53:15.040]  So it's really worth the time
[01:53:15.040 --> 01:53:16.040]  And the more you mess with it
[01:53:16.040 --> 01:53:17.040]  The more interesting it gets
[01:53:17.040 --> 01:53:19.040]  Because you see what they do
[01:53:19.040 --> 01:53:21.040]  And that doesn't look right
[01:53:21.040 --> 01:53:23.040]  And you kind of cruise through the code
[01:53:23.040 --> 01:53:25.040]  If you've read through it twice
[01:53:25.040 --> 01:53:28.040]  Or they do something that's not right
[01:53:28.040 --> 01:53:32.040]  You may not know exactly what statute it was
[01:53:32.040 --> 01:53:35.040]  But you'll remember reading something about that
[01:53:35.040 --> 01:53:38.040]  And then it will be hard to go back and find it
[01:53:38.040 --> 01:53:42.040]  Well, actually there's three things
[01:53:42.040 --> 01:53:43.040]  I wanted to bring up
[01:53:43.040 --> 01:53:45.040]  But I don't think we're going to be able to address
[01:53:45.040 --> 01:53:46.040]  Yeah, yeah
[01:53:46.040 --> 01:53:48.040]  You have a lot of things to address
[01:53:48.040 --> 01:53:51.040]  I called in earlier to show, Marcus
[01:53:51.040 --> 01:53:53.040]  Because we've got like five minutes left
[01:53:53.040 --> 01:53:56.040]  And we have Stephen from Minnesota also
[01:53:56.040 --> 01:53:59.040]  And I'll try not to blam so much Thursday
[01:53:59.040 --> 01:54:00.040]  Okay
[01:54:00.040 --> 01:54:01.040]  Okay
[01:54:01.040 --> 01:54:07.040]  Well, he said the one thing that they did wrong already
[01:54:07.040 --> 01:54:10.040]  Okay, is that they don't have a license, right?
[01:54:10.040 --> 01:54:15.040]  So DMV, the officer, informs me
[01:54:15.040 --> 01:54:18.040]  That while I was sitting there waiting
[01:54:18.040 --> 01:54:20.040]  That DMV has suspended my license
[01:54:20.040 --> 01:54:23.040]  And I'm like, wait a minute, I checked the code
[01:54:23.040 --> 01:54:27.040]  They're not supposed to do that until I'm convicted
[01:54:27.040 --> 01:54:30.040]  So I just wanted to mention that real quick
[01:54:30.040 --> 01:54:32.040]  Oh, then file on them
[01:54:32.040 --> 01:54:35.040]  Find out who actually signed the paper
[01:54:35.040 --> 01:54:39.040]  And filed criminal charges against them just for the fun of it
[01:54:39.040 --> 01:54:41.040]  Yeah, I was thinking about doing that
[01:54:41.040 --> 01:54:43.040]  Then you start winding their clocks
[01:54:43.040 --> 01:54:49.040]  Filing criminal complaints, you will find, is very simple
[01:54:49.040 --> 01:54:51.040]  And it's safe
[01:54:51.040 --> 01:54:55.040]  And it drives them up the wall
[01:54:55.040 --> 01:54:59.040]  You will start seeing them do this little song and dance
[01:54:59.040 --> 01:55:01.040]  We call it the cheeky dance
[01:55:01.040 --> 01:55:04.040]  Where they start shifting from one foot to the other
[01:55:04.040 --> 01:55:08.040]  Well, Mr. Marcus, well, Mr. Marcus
[01:55:08.040 --> 01:55:13.040]  They're trying to find a way to convince you that what they're doing is right
[01:55:13.040 --> 01:55:15.040]  That's when you know you got them
[01:55:15.040 --> 01:55:16.040]  Okay, listen, we have three minutes left
[01:55:16.040 --> 01:55:17.040]  We need to move on
[01:55:17.040 --> 01:55:18.040]  Okay
[01:55:18.040 --> 01:55:19.040]  All right, thanks, Marcus
[01:55:19.040 --> 01:55:21.040]  Call back in on Thursday
[01:55:21.040 --> 01:55:23.040]  All right, we're going now to Stephen in Minnesota
[01:55:23.040 --> 01:55:24.040]  Stephen, thanks for calling in
[01:55:24.040 --> 01:55:26.040]  What's on your mind tonight?
[01:55:26.040 --> 01:55:27.040]  Hi, y'all
[01:55:27.040 --> 01:55:30.040]  I was just kind of wondering for people that don't have internet and stuff
[01:55:30.040 --> 01:55:32.040]  Do you have a mailing address?
[01:55:32.040 --> 01:55:34.040]  It's on the website
[01:55:34.040 --> 01:55:35.040]  There's a PO box
[01:55:35.040 --> 01:55:37.040]  I don't remember exactly what it is right now
[01:55:37.040 --> 01:55:39.040]  Oh, I thought maybe we'd mention it on there
[01:55:39.040 --> 01:55:41.040]  Okay, let me look at it
[01:55:41.040 --> 01:55:42.040]  Okay, hold on, hold on
[01:55:42.040 --> 01:55:45.040]  I'm going to have to go to my own website and look it up for one second
[01:55:45.040 --> 01:55:47.040]  But yes, we do
[01:55:47.040 --> 01:55:50.040]  There's a PO box
[01:55:50.040 --> 01:55:54.040]  Just give me one second here
[01:55:54.040 --> 01:55:58.040]  I'm actually borrowing WTPRN's PO box right now
[01:55:58.040 --> 01:55:59.040]  I need to get my own
[01:55:59.040 --> 01:56:01.040]  And that's another reason why I need some donations, people
[01:56:01.040 --> 01:56:03.040]  Because I need to get my own PO box
[01:56:03.040 --> 01:56:05.040]  So please help me out here
[01:56:05.040 --> 01:56:08.040]  Okay, because there are people who are helping us
[01:56:08.040 --> 01:56:12.040]  They're letting me borrow their PO boxes for a while
[01:56:12.040 --> 01:56:14.040]  You know, it's like I'm going through a lot here
[01:56:14.040 --> 01:56:16.040]  So
[01:56:16.040 --> 01:56:18.040]  It's
[01:56:18.040 --> 01:56:23.040]  Okay, it says it is 11900 Metric Boulevard
[01:56:23.040 --> 01:56:27.040]  METRIC Boulevard
[01:56:27.040 --> 01:56:32.040]  J179 Austin, Texas
[01:56:32.040 --> 01:56:36.040]  78758
[01:56:36.040 --> 01:56:39.040]  And anything you send, send to Deborah Stevens
[01:56:39.040 --> 01:56:42.040]  Okay, if people out there who don't have internet
[01:56:42.040 --> 01:56:44.040]  Who haven't seen the donations page
[01:56:44.040 --> 01:56:49.040]  If you want to write me a check, write it to Deborah Stevens
[01:56:49.040 --> 01:56:52.040]  Do not put rule of law or rule of law radio
[01:56:52.040 --> 01:56:56.040]  Or ruleoflawradio.com or WTPRN or anything
[01:56:56.040 --> 01:56:58.040]  Any kind of business name at all because I won't
[01:56:58.040 --> 01:57:01.040]  I won't be able to do anything with it
[01:57:01.040 --> 01:57:03.040]  We do not have a business account right now
[01:57:03.040 --> 01:57:06.040]  And the way the banking system works in this country
[01:57:06.040 --> 01:57:11.040]  Is that you cannot endorse a check over to a personal account
[01:57:11.040 --> 01:57:12.040]  A check that's made out to a business
[01:57:12.040 --> 01:57:14.040]  You have to deposit a business
[01:57:14.040 --> 01:57:17.040]  A check written to a business has to be deposited
[01:57:17.040 --> 01:57:19.040]  In a business checking account
[01:57:19.040 --> 01:57:23.040]  With the name of the business of the account
[01:57:23.040 --> 01:57:26.040]  Has to be, you know, the business account has to be
[01:57:26.040 --> 01:57:28.040]  The name is the same on the check
[01:57:28.040 --> 01:57:31.040]  Now people endorse personal checks over all the time to each other
[01:57:31.040 --> 01:57:32.040]  But it doesn't work that way
[01:57:32.040 --> 01:57:35.040]  So please do not put any business name on it whatsoever
[01:57:35.040 --> 01:57:38.040]  Or else I'll have to send a check back to you
[01:57:38.040 --> 01:57:39.040]  Okay
[01:57:39.040 --> 01:57:41.040]  All right, that was mostly what I wanted to talk about then
[01:57:41.040 --> 01:57:45.040]  And then I want to thank you for your guys' show again
[01:57:45.040 --> 01:57:48.040]  Okay, excellent, go ahead, Marcus
[01:57:48.040 --> 01:57:49.040]  Wait a minute, no, we were talking to Stephen
[01:57:49.040 --> 01:57:52.040]  Stephen, I'm sorry, go ahead, Stephen
[01:57:52.040 --> 01:57:54.040]  Yeah, I was just saying that though
[01:57:54.040 --> 01:57:58.040]  Thanks for you guys' input of their knowledge and everything
[01:57:58.040 --> 01:57:59.040]  Oh, thank you
[01:57:59.040 --> 01:58:01.040]  You guys are welcome
[01:58:01.040 --> 01:58:04.040]  If you're in Minnesota, you need it up there
[01:58:04.040 --> 01:58:06.040]  I tell people that, you know, I live in Texas
[01:58:06.040 --> 01:58:08.040]  But it's not the most corrupt in the nation
[01:58:08.040 --> 01:58:10.040]  I think Florida is
[01:58:10.040 --> 01:58:12.040]  And Minnesota's running a close second
[01:58:12.040 --> 01:58:13.040]  Yeah, really?
[01:58:13.040 --> 01:58:14.040]  Yes, yes they are
[01:58:14.040 --> 01:58:16.040]  Okay, well listen, we're at the end of the show
[01:58:16.040 --> 01:58:19.040]  We thank you very much to all the callers
[01:58:19.040 --> 01:58:21.040]  We'll be back on Thursday nights
[01:58:21.040 --> 01:58:25.040]  Tune in tomorrow night for Tony Davis' show
[01:58:25.040 --> 01:58:27.040]  Solutions in Criminal Law
[01:58:27.040 --> 01:58:30.040]  He discusses the federal court system mostly
[01:58:30.040 --> 01:58:32.040]  And other issues
[01:58:32.040 --> 01:58:35.040]  And also Tom Keiley, Iron and World Reports
[01:58:35.040 --> 01:58:36.040]  At 6 p.m.
[01:58:36.040 --> 01:58:51.040]  We'll be back Thursday
[01:59:06.040 --> 01:59:08.040]  We'll be back on Thursday nights
[01:59:08.040 --> 01:59:10.040]  Tune in tomorrow night for Tony Davis' show
[01:59:10.040 --> 01:59:12.040]  Solutions in Criminal Law
[01:59:12.040 --> 01:59:14.040]  He discusses the federal court system mostly
[01:59:14.040 --> 01:59:16.040]  And other issues
[01:59:16.040 --> 01:59:18.040]  And other issues
[01:59:18.040 --> 01:59:20.040]  And also Tom Keiley, Iron and World Reports
[01:59:20.040 --> 01:59:22.040]  At 6 p.m.
[01:59:22.040 --> 01:59:24.040]  We'll be back Thursday nights
[01:59:24.040 --> 01:59:26.040]  Tune in tomorrow night for Tony Davis' show
[01:59:26.040 --> 01:59:28.040]  Solutions in Criminal Law
[01:59:28.040 --> 01:59:30.040]  He discusses the federal court system mostly
[01:59:30.040 --> 01:59:32.040]  And other issues
[01:59:32.040 --> 01:59:34.040]  And other issues
[01:59:34.040 --> 01:59:36.040]  And other issues