[00:00.000 --> 00:07.680] ...reprisals against U.S. forces in Iraq to protest Israel's Gaza offensive.
[00:07.680 --> 00:13.680]  Sadr urged that Palestinian flags be raised on mosques and other buildings in Iraq, and
[00:13.680 --> 00:17.120]  that all countries shut down Israel's embassies.
[00:17.120 --> 00:23.360]  Sadr's statements have sparked new fears of violence against U.S. troops after months
[00:23.360 --> 00:24.360]  of relative calm.
[00:24.360 --> 00:35.960]  BBC News reports Israel made 60 airstrikes on Gaza Wednesday night after the first daily
[00:35.960 --> 00:40.120]  truce to allow in humanitarian aid expired.
[00:40.120 --> 00:46.400]  The Israeli army said targets included police sites, Hamas tunnels, weapons storage facilities,
[00:46.400 --> 00:49.080]  launching pads and a number of armed gunmen.
[00:49.080 --> 00:54.080]  In a dramatic development, at least three rockets hit northern Israel from the direction
[00:54.080 --> 00:55.080]  of Lebanon.
[00:55.080 --> 01:00.120]  Tel Aviv fired five rockets into Lebanon, claiming it was in retaliation.
[01:00.120 --> 01:05.160]  Observers say this is a very dangerous moment in Israel's conflict.
[01:05.160 --> 01:10.880]  Peace efforts move to Cairo shortly, with an Israeli envoy due in the city.
[01:10.880 --> 01:17.040]  Senior Israeli defense official Amos Gilad will travel to Cairo Thursday to discuss ceasefire
[01:17.040 --> 01:18.040]  options.
[01:18.040 --> 01:23.680]  A Hamas delegation is expected in Cairo for parallel technical talks.
[01:23.680 --> 01:33.640]  Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas is expected in Cairo Friday.
[01:33.640 --> 01:38.960]  The website Global Research says Israel's invasion of Gaza by Israeli forces was first
[01:38.960 --> 01:43.920]  formulated by the government of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in 2001.
[01:43.920 --> 01:48.760]  Haaretz newspaper says the Israeli defense forces were instructed to prepare for the
[01:48.760 --> 01:53.640]  operation six months ago, even as Israel was beginning to negotiate a ceasefire with
[01:53.640 --> 01:55.200]  Hamas.
[01:55.200 --> 02:00.400]  Israel broke the truce on the day of the U.S. presidential elections, using this distraction
[02:00.400 --> 02:04.760]  to break the ceasefire by bombing the Gaza Strip, claiming it was to prevent Hamas from
[02:04.760 --> 02:07.120]  digging tunnels into Israel.
[02:07.120 --> 02:13.240]  The next day, Israel imposed a siege on Gaza, cutting off food, fuel, medical supplies and
[02:13.240 --> 02:24.360]  other necessities in an attempt to
[02:24.360 --> 02:50.040]  resolve the conflict.
[02:50.040 --> 03:07.840]  I try to do the sleeping, the doggling, barking, disturbing me when I'm laughing,
[03:07.840 --> 03:14.960]  they badogging, thugging, I give them some ketchup, chocolate, can't eat it, hokodagging,
[03:14.960 --> 03:21.160]  throwing, throwing, can't do barking, they badogging, arguing, tell me how did I miss
[03:21.160 --> 03:27.280]  it, tell me never was touching, six or one, ten, half a dozen, six, six, six, six, neighbor,
[03:27.280 --> 03:34.360]  get your dog out of here, or open me backyard, they disturbing me, they telling me never,
[03:34.360 --> 03:50.680]  get your dog out of here, neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of here, I gave them sponging,
[03:50.680 --> 03:56.440]  eating, gave them bread, them eating, what told you that I'd guess and wouldn't stop
[03:56.440 --> 04:02.400]  from barking, passing neighbor, peeping, looking over, peaking, you're talking my
[04:02.400 --> 04:09.600]  mind, I got barking, disturbing, when did you start sleeping, your dog love is barking,
[04:09.600 --> 04:15.520]  you who's come and been crowing, I've been singing and flashing, you know that I'm ranting,
[04:15.520 --> 04:22.480]  with me you still are doing, tell me how you like it, how do doggies bark it, let you know
[04:22.480 --> 04:28.160]  I'm whining, but your dog bark too much and sing, disturbing neighbor, who ya, people
[04:28.160 --> 04:34.960]  get feeling hungry, that's why I give them ketchup, hungry dog, too loud, no need to
[04:34.960 --> 04:41.360]  do chewing, no need to knock my kilns, so neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of me
[04:41.360 --> 04:48.000]  yard, get them more, get them more, get them more, get them more, neighbor, neighbor, get
[04:48.000 --> 04:55.760]  your dog out of me yard, 20 miles, 20 miles, 20 miles, 20 miles, neighbor, neighbor, get
[04:55.760 --> 05:04.880]  your dog out of me yard, 20 miles, 20 miles, six of me say something, half a dozen, same
[05:04.880 --> 05:11.200]  thing, six of me say one thing, half a dozen are the same thing, you know like me whining,
[05:11.200 --> 05:16.720]  get mad when I start arguing, tell me it's not your business, lock my sense on your dog
[05:16.720 --> 05:23.440]  one day, your dog is barking, I've been dicking and quacking, eating, now he mouth is chewing,
[05:23.440 --> 05:29.440]  dog not saying nothing, big throat, I will hit him, chase the dog out my yard and sing,
[05:29.440 --> 05:35.200]  dog I want to cull him, lick my finger, lick his chin, walk to me house and sing,
[05:35.200 --> 05:41.120]  when I'm under stress sleeping, your dog will like me barking, look how him disturbing,
[05:41.120 --> 05:50.400]  so neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of my yard, neighbor, that's right, neighbor,
[05:50.400 --> 06:11.440]  get your dog out of my yard, neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of my yard, this is the rule
[06:11.440 --> 06:18.880]  of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens, we started writing that song about three years
[06:18.880 --> 06:24.960]  ago and I decided to mix it last night, this is a special tribute song, this one is dedicated
[06:24.960 --> 06:32.880]  to Randy in Texas who called in last night about his dog who apparently has gotten out
[06:32.880 --> 06:38.640]  multiple times because he was complaining that his dog would come home with pellets
[06:38.640 --> 06:44.160]  in his flesh, in his butt or whatever and what I have to say to you is what do you expect,
[06:44.160 --> 06:51.280]  Randy, this is obviously not a one time deal and listen, I'm going to pull up some stories
[06:51.280 --> 06:56.960]  here, this is really a pet peeve of mine, no pun intended, actually pun intended and
[06:56.960 --> 07:03.440]  Randy, here's my advice for you, take it to the appellate court and here's the deal,
[07:04.240 --> 07:10.880]  this really isn't funny, people's dogs can do serious damage to property, everyone thinks
[07:10.880 --> 07:17.680]  their dog isn't going to bite anyone, everyone thinks their dog is a little angel and probably
[07:17.680 --> 07:24.000]  most of them are but I'll tell you what, okay, children have been killed, adults have been
[07:24.000 --> 07:32.560]  killed and you, Randy's having a coughing fit over here, she made me choke on my booze,
[07:33.760 --> 07:39.840]  listen, take it to the appellate court, Randy, I mean like I said, what do you expect, I mean
[07:39.840 --> 07:45.680]  I'm sorry but I was laughing my butt off last night when you're telling me how you're outside
[07:45.680 --> 07:52.240]  your fence trying to pull your dog in and dodge in the neighborhood, come on, how many times is
[07:52.240 --> 07:56.800]  this supposed to happen, I mean no disrespect Randy but I mean I'm sorry, you can't expect me
[07:56.800 --> 08:04.560]  to feel sorry for you, keep your dog in your yard, keep it in a pen, give me a break, like I said,
[08:05.520 --> 08:09.280]  my husband and I can't even go to Bartlett Creek Greenbelts anymore, we haven't gone there for
[08:09.280 --> 08:14.320]  years because people will not keep their dogs on the leash, it's just common courtesy people,
[08:14.320 --> 08:19.520]  I mean give me a break, it's like people have told me on the greenbelt, well my dog's not going to
[08:19.520 --> 08:24.160]  bite you, well I don't care if he does or not, I mean well I care if he does but maybe I don't want
[08:24.160 --> 08:31.600]  wet nasty dog goo hair, you know, being thrown all over me when I'm climbing out of the swimming
[08:31.600 --> 08:39.360]  hole, give me a break, now listen, this is a serious issue here because you can be criminally liable,
[08:39.360 --> 08:45.840]  criminally culpable for any damage that your dog does when it's outside, when you own an animal,
[08:45.840 --> 08:53.120]  you're responsible for it and whatever your dog does, it's the same thing as you doing it,
[08:53.120 --> 08:58.720]  period and everyone likes to say, well I didn't do it, my dog did it, nobody, if it's your dog,
[08:58.720 --> 09:05.440]  that means you did it and people have gone to prison, okay, there's a woman who, okay,
[09:05.440 --> 09:12.720]  let me read you this story, Marjorie Noller, this is in 2002, 46 years old, this is in March 21st,
[09:12.720 --> 09:20.640]  2002, she was found guilty of manslaughter, she's going to face 15 years to life in prison for
[09:20.640 --> 09:27.200]  second degree murder, okay, for a second degree murder conviction in last year's death which
[09:27.200 --> 09:34.480]  would have been 2001, of 33 year old Diane Whipple, okay, because her dog killed this woman,
[09:34.480 --> 09:45.760]  there was a woman in 1997, okay, whose dobermans got out and killed a young boy, she was convicted
[09:45.760 --> 09:51.360]  of first degree murder, okay, this is not a laughing matter, I mean, yeah, the song is funny
[09:51.360 --> 09:57.200]  and everything but I'm sorry, these people, please, you are responsible for your animals,
[09:57.200 --> 10:03.040]  keep them in the pen, this woman who was convicted of murder was warned multiple times by the police
[10:03.040 --> 10:06.560]  and the neighborhood association that you need to fix your fence, if your dog is getting out
[10:06.560 --> 10:10.800]  and getting out and getting out repeatedly, you need to do something about it because you may end
[10:10.800 --> 10:16.880]  up going to prison over it, okay. Yeah, I was, I lived in a small town and I was walking up my
[10:16.880 --> 10:23.600]  sidewalk in front of my house one day and there's this dog that was half Great Dane, half chow,
[10:24.880 --> 10:29.840]  huge dog, a recognized dog lived a couple of blocks away in an apartment building
[10:30.480 --> 10:37.360]  and it's sitting on the sidewalk about 10 feet in front of my door and this is out in the country,
[10:37.360 --> 10:41.840]  you tend not to have aggressive dogs, so I didn't think much of it, I walked up to him and I said,
[10:41.840 --> 10:49.200]  hello big fella and I reached my hand out and I said, oh, Bubba wants to fight, do we?
[10:50.160 --> 10:58.000]  And when I took the swing at him, he ducked, my neighbor behind me who has a hardware store,
[10:58.000 --> 11:03.200]  this was about six in the morning and she was seeing her husband, her kids were there
[11:04.640 --> 11:07.680]  picking up and having a delivery, they had a semi there, they were unloading
[11:07.680 --> 11:13.920]  and she saw me chasing this dog around the house and down the alley and around the corner and chased
[11:13.920 --> 11:18.960]  it back where he lived, the next day she asked me what I was doing and I said, oh, that dog,
[11:20.240 --> 11:30.160]  he wanted to dance, but I wanted to lead, it's a good thing that I didn't catch the dog,
[11:30.800 --> 11:36.640]  now I like dogs and I would do nothing to really hurt the dog, but I would give that dog
[11:36.640 --> 11:43.040]  real good reason, not to want to growl at anybody, once it stepped outside of its yard,
[11:44.160 --> 11:49.600]  where I'm at right now, the next door neighbor's dog got out one day and when the dogs fault,
[11:49.600 --> 11:54.800]  the dogs, if they can get out, they will and I rode by on a bicycle and the dog had always
[11:54.800 --> 12:00.640]  been in the yard, so this was new, this was strange and when I rode by on the bicycle,
[12:00.640 --> 12:08.560]  working my fat off, he thought he needed to pull me off the bicycle, but he didn't,
[12:09.680 --> 12:16.480]  I got off the bicycle all by myself and he found his way back in around the back of the house with
[12:16.480 --> 12:22.960]  me right on his heels and I talked to the neighbor about it and I told him, you know, your dog got
[12:22.960 --> 12:29.200]  out yesterday and he tried to pull me off the bicycle, but he didn't have to, I didn't catch
[12:29.200 --> 12:35.840]  your dog outside the fence, but if he tries to pull me off that bicycle again and I catch him,
[12:37.120 --> 12:38.880]  I will put him back in the fence.
[12:38.880 --> 12:44.800]  You know, and the thing is young children and elderly people and people who may not be as
[12:44.800 --> 12:50.240]  strong and husky as Randy may not be able to solve these kinds of problems.
[12:50.240 --> 12:55.200]  That was exactly my point, that's why I would do that, whatever that dog did to me,
[12:55.200 --> 12:59.600]  we're going to have ourselves a fight, I don't want him hurting somebody else.
[12:59.600 --> 13:04.560]  And here's the fight that I'll have, okay, if that dog comes on my property,
[13:04.560 --> 13:09.280]  you better believe I'm whipping out my pellet rifle and that dog's going down because I have
[13:09.280 --> 13:13.680]  the right to defend myself, period, and my property and my cats.
[13:13.680 --> 13:20.480]  We had some dogs in the neighborhood, in our neighborhood, get loose, dobermans multiple
[13:20.480 --> 13:26.880]  times and the neighbors wouldn't do anything about it and guess what, those dogs got into my yard,
[13:26.880 --> 13:32.480]  okay, because I don't have dogs, I don't need to have, you know, a fortress of fencing, all right,
[13:32.480 --> 13:38.320]  it's not my responsibility, all right, so these dogs get in my yard and they killed my neighbor's
[13:38.320 --> 13:44.880]  cat, brutally tore it apart, all right, and that's why I'm saying people, this is not funny,
[13:44.880 --> 13:49.680]  all right, I can't feel sorry for you, Randy, I'm sorry, you need to keep your dog in, period dude,
[13:49.680 --> 13:54.640]  it's just not right, it's just not right. Let me read you a couple of things here,
[13:54.640 --> 14:01.280]  okay, in the most well publicized case of its kind, this is doglaw.com, okay, in the most well
[14:01.280 --> 14:05.440]  publicized case of its kind, a San Francisco woman was convicted of second degree murder
[14:05.440 --> 14:10.640]  after a Presa Canario dog she was walking attacked and killed a woman in the hall of
[14:10.640 --> 14:15.280]  the apartment building they lived in. Affirming the conviction, the appeals court wrote the dog's
[14:15.280 --> 14:20.480]  owner knew that the dog, knew that the dog that attacked was a frightening and dangerous animal,
[14:20.480 --> 14:27.360]  huge, untrained, and bred to fight and endangered others, okay, a California, okay, an Ohio man was
[14:27.360 --> 14:34.880]  convicted of failing to confine his vicious dog, a felony in that state, his dogs had attacked and
[14:34.880 --> 14:42.160]  killed a toddler, all right, in 1987 a Georgian man was convicted of involuntary manslaughter after
[14:42.160 --> 14:46.400]  three dogs which he had allowed to run loose, attacked and killed a four-year-old boy, he was
[14:46.400 --> 14:51.600]  sentenced to five years prison, five years probation, not enough in my book, okay, a California man
[14:51.600 --> 14:56.640]  whose chained dog mauled to death a two-year-old was charged with murder, he was convicted of
[14:56.640 --> 15:01.520]  involuntary manslaughter, all right, I'm sorry to spend the whole segment on this people but
[15:01.520 --> 15:06.400]  I've had it with the dogs, someday I would like to be able to go to Barton Creek again,
[15:06.400 --> 15:09.440]  all right, it's a beautiful place, anyway, we're going to break, we'll be right back and we're
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[16:35.200 --> 17:03.200]  If I can't believe my eyes, I've got to believe my heart If I can't believe my ears, I've got
[17:03.200 --> 17:16.320]  to believe my heart If I can't believe the newspapers, I've got to believe my heart
[17:16.320 --> 17:31.920]  If I can't believe the radio, I've got to believe my heart And my heart said whoa, wait a minute
[17:31.920 --> 17:39.840]  You know I'm out here in this wilderness alone Troubles you bring to me make me feel like
[17:39.840 --> 18:09.760]  home Just because you can't find the sleep in this reality
[18:09.760 --> 18:34.240]  I keep finding myself in places where I've got to believe my heart I've got much to go
[18:34.240 --> 18:47.920]  on in some cases So I've got to believe my heart I keep finding myself in situations
[18:47.920 --> 18:57.440]  Where I've got to believe my heart I might not possess the proper education
[18:57.440 --> 19:05.840]  So I've got to believe my heart And my heart said whoa, wait a minute
[19:05.840 --> 19:09.520]  Wait and see I know you truly want to know
[19:09.520 --> 19:10.480]  All right, we are back.
[19:12.400 --> 19:15.920]  The rule of law on rule of law radio.
[19:18.480 --> 19:19.520]  Rule of law radio.
[19:19.520 --> 19:30.080]  I am Deborah Stephens. We're here with Randy Kalten and we have very special guest on our
[19:30.080 --> 19:34.720]  phone bridge tonight, Dr. Bill Veith. Dr. Veith, thank you for joining us tonight.
[19:36.000 --> 19:38.240]  Thank you very much. Nice to be here again.
[19:38.240 --> 19:45.360]  Yes, and I wanted us to speak somewhat on the current state of the economy and the state of
[19:45.360 --> 19:51.200]  the dollar and what your take on the current situation is and where you expect it all to go.
[19:53.120 --> 19:59.200]  Okay, I'll be glad to address those issues. Actually, I'm sitting here right now looking
[19:59.200 --> 20:07.600]  at a chart on my computer screen. I had just been reading an article and it's a little graph
[20:08.160 --> 20:14.480]  put out by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis and it's showing the adjusted monetary base
[20:14.480 --> 20:21.120]  of the United States and what it's showing is that from the beginning of the Federal Reserve
[20:21.120 --> 20:29.440]  Bank back in 1913 up until three months ago, all of the money supply that had ever been created out
[20:29.440 --> 20:36.640]  of thin air by the Federal Reserve to monetize United States bonds, all of that money was less
[20:36.640 --> 20:46.400]  than $900 billion. It looks like it's at $880 billion. Now, since September, they have already
[20:46.400 --> 20:52.880]  created more than that, more than $880 billion more out of thin air. So, in three months,
[20:53.680 --> 20:59.360]  they've created more money out of thin air than they did in the first 96 years of the Federal
[20:59.360 --> 21:04.240]  Reserve. Yes, I was over at Dr. Veith's house the other day and I looked at that graph
[21:04.240 --> 21:11.920]  and it looked like the graph rose at about a five-degree angle up until September of last year
[21:11.920 --> 21:18.480]  and then it went straight vertical. Oh, man, like exponential. That was scary. The same graph
[21:18.480 --> 21:23.920]  has been posted in a number of different articles. This is a different article than the one when
[21:23.920 --> 21:29.360]  Randy was here the other day but it's the same graph just updated by about a week or two
[21:29.360 --> 21:37.280]  since he was here. But it's just incredible that the amount of what they call liquidity
[21:37.280 --> 21:43.440]  that's being created out of nothing. Now, see, a lot of times when the government sells bonds
[21:43.440 --> 21:49.440]  and treasury bills, it's not necessarily adding to the monetary base because a lot of people
[21:50.240 --> 21:56.880]  will buy treasury bonds from money that already exists. For example, China may sell
[21:56.880 --> 22:01.600]  a lot of goods to the United States and they send us their goods and we send them dollars to pay for
[22:01.600 --> 22:07.040]  it and then they use those dollars to lend back to our government to buy the government bonds
[22:07.040 --> 22:12.240]  and that's not creating new money. They're using existing dollars or if I wanted to buy a treasury
[22:12.240 --> 22:17.680]  bond and collect the 3% or 4% interest, I'd be using cash that's already in circulation.
[22:17.680 --> 22:22.960]  But what this chart is showing is the money that's not already in circulation. This is brand new
[22:22.960 --> 22:28.880]  money created out of thin air because the government can't find enough people out there or enough
[22:29.840 --> 22:35.840]  central banks around the country to fund its debt so it has to now go to the Federal Reserve
[22:35.840 --> 22:40.560]  and say just create the money. We'll give you buy the bond from us and create the money and this is
[22:40.560 --> 22:46.640]  going to be highly inflationary at some point in the future. Now, it takes a while for this money to
[22:46.640 --> 22:51.680]  ripple through the economy and a lot of this so-called money that's being created out of thin
[22:51.680 --> 23:01.520]  air may not even be injected into the economy right now. It's being given to banks and Goldman
[23:01.520 --> 23:08.640]  Sachs and some of these big investment firms and they're recapitalizing their insolvent accounts
[23:08.640 --> 23:16.400]  so it hasn't really gone back into the economy yet but when it does, you're going to start to see
[23:16.400 --> 23:22.720]  the price inflation in addition to the monetary inflation because price inflation is an effect
[23:22.720 --> 23:29.040]  or result of monetary inflation. So, I think we all need to get ready for at some point in the
[23:29.040 --> 23:34.320]  future maybe six months down the road or a year down the road for prices to start really rising
[23:34.320 --> 23:41.840]  in everything. You're talking hyperinflation. Well, yeah hyperinflation but you know hyperinflation
[23:41.840 --> 23:50.160]  is relative. For example, in Zimbabwe right now, the inflation rate is 200 million percent per year.
[23:50.160 --> 23:57.200]  Oh my goodness. Literally 200 million percent per year. So, you know that's real hyperinflation.
[23:57.840 --> 24:05.600]  I think the technical explanation for that is printing paper money as fast as you can.
[24:05.600 --> 24:14.400]  Yeah, well actually what it is is it's creating money at a rate greater than the creation of goods
[24:14.400 --> 24:23.360]  and services in society. In other words, let's say we use gold as money and as we discover more
[24:23.360 --> 24:29.600]  gold in the ground and mine it and bring it to coin, over a 10-year period maybe the economy is
[24:29.600 --> 24:34.720]  growing equally as much and our economy is getting more efficient. We're producing goods and services
[24:34.720 --> 24:41.840]  so if the economy is growing at the same rate that the monetary base is being expanded,
[24:41.840 --> 24:45.920]  you don't get inflation. You need that money to buy the goods and services.
[24:45.920 --> 24:54.160]  So, inflation is an increase in the money supply above and beyond the increase in goods and services
[24:54.160 --> 25:01.440]  in the economy. So, it's always easier to print new money, new paper currency out of thin air.
[25:01.440 --> 25:05.280]  That's a lot easier than going and mining gold and bringing it to coin or mining silver and
[25:05.280 --> 25:09.520]  bring it to coin and it's a lot easier than creating more goods and services in the economy.
[25:09.520 --> 25:15.680]  Yes. So, that's why the nature of paper currency is to keep printing, printing, printing more
[25:15.680 --> 25:27.680]  currency. It's sort of like writing bad checks. Well, Bill, what is the idea behind these people
[25:27.680 --> 25:34.080]  who want to just keep printing, printing, printing faster than goods and services increase in the
[25:34.080 --> 25:41.600]  economy? Why would they want to do that? Okay, because it gives the people that are printing
[25:41.600 --> 25:48.160]  the money out of thin air, the central bankers, the best, most profitable business in the world
[25:49.280 --> 25:53.280]  is to have a government come borrow your money that you just printed out of thin air. I'd love
[25:53.280 --> 25:58.240]  to be in that business. I would love for the United States government to shut down its contract with
[25:58.240 --> 26:02.960]  the Federal Reserve and say, from now on, we're going to let Bill Veith print the currency for
[26:02.960 --> 26:06.880]  the world and for the country. And whenever we want money, we're going to go to Bill Veith and
[26:06.880 --> 26:10.640]  we're going to give him a bond and we're going to let Bill Veith print it out of his garage.
[26:12.240 --> 26:18.240]  And then we're going to have all of the 300 million people in the United States work their tails off
[26:18.240 --> 26:23.360]  and produce goods and services and use their labor so that we can pay Bill Veith an interest
[26:23.360 --> 26:27.600]  on that loan, on that money he just created out of nothing. And we're going to give Bill Veith the
[26:27.600 --> 26:32.160]  monopoly to do that. And if anybody else tries to do it, we're going to call them counterfeiters and
[26:32.160 --> 26:36.240]  we're going to put them in prison. But we're going to let Bill Veith profit. So all they have to do
[26:36.240 --> 26:43.920]  is authorize Bill Veith to write bad checks. Well, it is a check-kiting scheme. That's what it is.
[26:43.920 --> 26:50.720]  Between the United States Treasury and the Federal Reserve, it is a check-kiting Ponzi scheme.
[26:52.240 --> 26:57.760]  It would otherwise be illegal if the Congress hadn't made it legal, but it's certainly not
[26:57.760 --> 27:04.320]  constitutional. It's a fraud on the public. It's an unsustainable system. That's not an opinion.
[27:04.320 --> 27:09.360]  Not one paper currency in recorded history has ever not reached a value of zero. And the dollar
[27:09.360 --> 27:16.320]  is on its way to reaching its intrinsic value of zero. Dr. Veith, you mentioned Ponzi scheme
[27:16.320 --> 27:25.360]  before. Will you define Ponzi scheme? Yeah. Ponzi scheme is basically a scheme where you're not
[27:25.360 --> 27:35.120]  investing in anything of tangible value. But what you're doing is you're bringing in new investors
[27:35.120 --> 27:41.920]  to pay back the older investors. So as you bring in new money, let's say I might start a
[27:42.800 --> 27:50.400]  phony business where I say I'm investing in silver. And my investors are getting 20% returns on their
[27:50.400 --> 27:55.760]  money a year. So somebody puts in his money, and I give him a 20% return. And that guy goes bragging,
[27:55.760 --> 28:00.720]  man, you need to invest with this guy Veith, because when you put in money, you're getting
[28:00.720 --> 28:14.160]  20% return. Okay, Bill, listen. Bill, we're going to break. We're going to break. We'll be right back.
[28:18.960 --> 28:23.920]  Gold prices are at historic highs. And with the recent pullback, this is a great time to buy.
[28:23.920 --> 28:27.920]  With the value of the dollar, risks of inflation, geopolitical uncertainties,
[28:27.920 --> 28:33.520]  and instability in rural financial systems, I see gold going up much higher. Hi, I'm Tim Fry at
[28:33.520 --> 28:38.000]  Roberts and Roberts Brokerage. Everybody should have some of their assets in investment grade
[28:38.000 --> 28:42.640]  precious metals. At Roberts and Roberts Brokerage, you can buy gold, silver, and platinum with
[28:42.640 --> 28:48.000]  confidence from a brokerage that specialized in the precious metals market since 1977.
[28:48.000 --> 28:52.480]  If you are new to precious metals, we will happily provide you with the information you need to make
[28:52.480 --> 28:58.160]  an informed decision whether or not you choose to purchase from us. Also, Roberts and Roberts Brokerage
[28:58.160 --> 29:02.880]  values your privacy and will always advise you in the event that we would be required to report any
[29:02.880 --> 29:08.160]  transaction. If you have gold, silver, or platinum you'd like to sell, we can convert it for immediate
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[29:38.160 --> 29:43.040]  Sometimes we have to forget that we're never going to be able to buy.
[29:43.040 --> 29:47.920]  Some people are preaching ideas with which I may not agree because they want the world to be the
[29:47.920 --> 29:52.720]  way they think it should be. When I hear that judgment's passed, it's saying I'll hang out.
[29:52.720 --> 29:58.000]  I'm wondering if they're living the life they're preaching about to be. Living up is difficult
[29:58.000 --> 30:02.960]  but not. Two people and people don't make the quote, but you'll live up to many words and
[30:02.960 --> 30:09.840]  truth in the songs we sing. Though in my heart I pray we're not going to bring any damage on the
[30:09.840 --> 30:17.440]  stones thrown by the people living in the bleak glass homes. Damage on the stones thrown by the
[30:17.440 --> 30:33.360]  people living in the bleak glass homes. I feel the pain but it's all right. Pain but it's all right.
[30:47.440 --> 31:03.120]  Okay, we are back. Some Route 1 music for you. The other band that I am a member of,
[31:04.480 --> 31:10.160]  my husband Jerry Stevens, founder of Route 1. He's been touring the country with Route 1 for
[31:10.160 --> 31:16.640]  about 15 years plus. Longer actually, more like 20. Okay, so we are going to go back now to
[31:16.640 --> 31:23.280]  Dr. Bill Veath. All right, you were explaining what a Ponzi scheme is. Right, now interestingly
[31:23.280 --> 31:28.240]  there's a lot of news lately about this guy Madoff. I don't know if you've heard of him.
[31:28.240 --> 31:33.920]  Yeah, I call him Madoff because he made off with billions. That's right, it is Madoff.
[31:33.920 --> 31:41.920]  He's orchestrated a Ponzi scheme over the last 10 or 15 years and to my understanding many of the
[31:41.920 --> 31:47.200]  people warned the Securities and Exchange Commission about this guy and he was supposedly
[31:47.200 --> 31:52.080]  looked at and left alone and of course now that it's crumbling and it's falling apart,
[31:52.080 --> 31:56.880]  he's not making profits for a lot of these elite people and heavy hitters that invested with him.
[31:56.880 --> 32:01.600]  Now they're going after him but they're making him a scapegoat. Well, the biggest Ponzi scheme
[32:01.600 --> 32:08.160]  we got going is the Federal Reserve with the Treasury that have a check-skating scheme going.
[32:08.160 --> 32:13.440]  And what is Social Security if not a Ponzi scheme? They're not producing anything with
[32:13.440 --> 32:19.920]  Social Security, it's just paying off the original investors by taking in money from the new investors
[32:19.920 --> 32:25.520]  and we're not really investors, just taking in people paying the taxes. So Social Security
[32:25.520 --> 32:30.560]  is a perfect example of a Ponzi scheme and of course it's going to collapse too. They all do.
[32:30.560 --> 32:40.480]  So as I understand that if Social Security had been left alone and the government hadn't raided
[32:40.480 --> 32:48.160]  the Social Security fund, then the Social Security would have actually been an insurance program
[32:49.120 --> 32:57.360]  but as it is, it turned out to be an unauthorized tax. Well see the problem is when the Social
[32:57.360 --> 33:04.160]  Security came into being, there was one person on Social Security benefits for every 50 workers.
[33:05.040 --> 33:12.000]  Okay, now that ratio is down to about 6 to 1 rather than 50 to 1. So it is a Ponzi scheme.
[33:12.000 --> 33:19.280]  You've got fewer and fewer productive workers paying for more and more non-productive
[33:20.320 --> 33:25.200]  people who are not working and it can't last. Yeah, it can't last.
[33:25.200 --> 33:32.400]  And even if they hadn't raided the IRS fund, I mean the Social Security fund,
[33:33.360 --> 33:39.760]  as the population ages, this whole scenario is going to be exacerbated.
[33:41.040 --> 33:44.800]  As people get older and older, they collect benefits longer and longer.
[33:44.800 --> 33:47.520]  Bill, can you please explain what check hiding is?
[33:49.680 --> 33:53.440]  Yeah, check hiding is writing checks on funds that aren't there.
[33:53.440 --> 33:55.280]  See, you write a bad check.
[33:55.280 --> 33:56.640]  It's basically writing a hot check.
[33:56.640 --> 34:00.400]  You write a bad check and then you write another bad check on another account to cover the first
[34:00.400 --> 34:03.040]  bad check. Exactly, exactly.
[34:03.040 --> 34:09.280]  I knew a guy who was a professional criminal and he would go to a bank and put
[34:10.240 --> 34:14.320]  three or four hundred bucks in the bank and then he would go to another bank
[34:15.040 --> 34:20.400]  and open an account and write a check on the first bank to open the second count.
[34:20.400 --> 34:25.040]  And then he'd go to the next bank and write a check on the one before it and just walk around
[34:25.040 --> 34:29.920]  this way and open about ten accounts. And that's where the term kiting comes from
[34:30.480 --> 34:33.760]  because he kites. He moves from one bank to the next, the same funds.
[34:33.760 --> 34:40.400]  He just rotates them around every week until every week he goes into the same teller and writes a
[34:40.400 --> 34:46.880]  check. And after a while, they get to know him and they quit checking the bank that he's drawing
[34:46.880 --> 34:50.960]  from to make sure the funds are there because they see the same guy every week. He always goes to the
[34:50.960 --> 34:55.840]  same teller. And after about six months of this, then one week he goes in and writes checks
[34:56.560 --> 35:01.600]  and doesn't kite the funds but takes the funds out and disappears.
[35:02.720 --> 35:07.680]  What were you saying right before that, Bill? You were going to say something about the kiting
[35:07.680 --> 35:08.720]  as well?
[35:08.720 --> 35:11.840]  Yeah, no, that Randy gave a good explanation of what kiting is.
[35:11.840 --> 35:17.600]  And it's basically writing checks on funds that you know aren't there.
[35:19.600 --> 35:21.280]  And that's what the reserve is doing.
[35:22.480 --> 35:22.960]  Pardon me?
[35:22.960 --> 35:24.240]  That's what the government's doing.
[35:24.240 --> 35:32.960]  That's what the government's doing, right. And then eventually, to increase the monetary base,
[35:32.960 --> 35:41.440]  the Federal Reserve, eventually, if the government can't sell its bonds and T-bills to investors that
[35:41.440 --> 35:47.280]  already have money and funds, then Federal Reserve will start printing the funds out of thin air.
[35:47.280 --> 35:53.280]  And that's called the high-powered money because they get to spend it before the effects of price
[35:53.280 --> 35:59.040]  inflation kick in. So they're spending it even though, you know, you're adding to the money
[35:59.040 --> 36:04.880]  supply. And as other people get that money six months or a year down the road, then the prices
[36:04.880 --> 36:09.200]  have doubled. If you double the money supply, the prices have doubled. So they get a loss in
[36:09.200 --> 36:14.480]  purchasing power of the existing dollars they hold. And now any new dollars they labor for
[36:14.480 --> 36:17.840]  are worth less than whoever spent the money originally.
[36:17.840 --> 36:26.560]  Yes. So this is the same as if I had written a bunch of checks and not put any more value in
[36:26.560 --> 36:32.720]  my account. So now I have all of these checks out there that are drawing on my account, but my account
[36:32.720 --> 36:40.160]  hadn't got any larger. So each check, if they get a relative percentage of my account,
[36:41.760 --> 36:47.680]  the value of that particular check is going to be much, much smaller. And I understand a reserve
[36:47.680 --> 36:53.520]  note is almost exactly the same thing as a check written on an account. Is that true?
[36:55.520 --> 37:00.400]  Yeah. You know, yeah, it really is because, you know, a Federal Reserve note, first of all,
[37:00.400 --> 37:05.840]  isn't a note as we, I think we talked about that last time, but it's a liability of the Federal
[37:05.840 --> 37:11.600]  Reserve. It's not an asset. So it's kind of weird because if you look at double entry bookkeeping,
[37:12.320 --> 37:19.600]  the government gives the Fed a bond, which is a promise to pay. And the Fed buys that bond with
[37:19.600 --> 37:26.560]  Federal Reserve notes, but the Federal Reserve takes that government bond, puts it on its books,
[37:26.560 --> 37:32.800]  and that's an asset on the books of the Federal Reserve. So to offset the government bond asset,
[37:32.800 --> 37:39.600]  they print or give them the Federal Reserve notes, which is a liability. So you've got the
[37:39.600 --> 37:45.120]  government giving the Fed a promise to pay the bond, and now you've got the Fed giving the
[37:45.120 --> 37:51.040]  government a promise to pay, which is its notes. And so you've got the double entry bookkeeping,
[37:51.040 --> 37:57.520]  and all you've got is promises to pay something. And no value in between. No value. There's no
[37:57.520 --> 38:04.240]  value. And so anybody holding a Federal Reserve note is holding a liability of the Federal Reserve.
[38:04.240 --> 38:09.840]  So you used to be able to go back and say, okay, here's your liability. Here's the note.
[38:09.840 --> 38:15.520]  A note is a liability. Now pay me for this note. I want the money. I want the gold and silver.
[38:15.520 --> 38:21.360]  But now they don't give you the gold and silver. You just get the liability. So everybody that uses
[38:21.360 --> 38:28.400]  Federal Reserve notes, that is a forced loan. They are loaning us their notes, and it's a forced loan
[38:28.400 --> 38:32.480]  because we have to use them because of legal tender laws, but there's no money there.
[38:34.000 --> 38:42.640]  Yeah, money is value. As opposed to a piece of paper representing a ledger entry.
[38:42.640 --> 38:48.720]  Right. And a promise to pay something of value, but an empty promise.
[38:49.280 --> 38:55.600]  Right. The Federal Government has promised to pay dramatically more than they have.
[38:57.120 --> 38:57.840]  Just like me writing bad checks.
[38:57.840 --> 39:02.400]  Well, when the Federal Reserve came into existence, they promised to pay gold and silver
[39:02.400 --> 39:09.760]  for those notes they gave out. And then in 1933, they just defaulted on that promise and said,
[39:09.760 --> 39:13.840]  oh, we're going to keep the gold and silver. You just use those little claim checks, and we're
[39:13.840 --> 39:18.400]  going to call it money, or we're going to call it legal tender. So we're going to give you a,
[39:18.400 --> 39:24.160]  everybody now has a forced loan. You all have to borrow the liabilities of the Federal Reserve
[39:24.160 --> 39:27.840]  and use them for what we call money. Incredible.
[39:27.840 --> 39:35.440]  It's the biggest scam. It's an unbelievable scam, but that's why it can't possibly work.
[39:35.440 --> 39:40.640]  It can't possibly be sustained. That's why everybody has to be prepared for at some time
[39:40.640 --> 39:47.840]  in the future, the dollar will fail. Period. It cannot decide the laws of gravity forever.
[39:47.840 --> 39:53.360]  The question is always when, you know, how long, you know, the government and the Federal Reserve
[39:53.840 --> 39:59.040]  and in conjunction with other central banks, they can do little stimulus things. They can
[39:59.040 --> 40:03.120]  give it little steroid injections. They can do a lot of little things to keep it going just an
[40:03.120 --> 40:08.560]  extra few months or an extra six months or an extra year, but eventually it will fail.
[40:09.120 --> 40:19.440]  Sort of like drinking caffeine. In looking at that increase in the amount of dollars injected into
[40:19.440 --> 40:26.240]  the economy, where the number of dollars injected into the economy is going straight up on the graph,
[40:26.240 --> 40:32.160]  the relative value of the dollar should in fact be going straight down at the same rate.
[40:32.880 --> 40:38.400]  Exactly. And it will. It's the same thing. Let's say, let's say you have a business, Randy,
[40:38.880 --> 40:46.480]  and you issue a thousand shares of stock. Okay. And all of a sudden, one day you just decide,
[40:46.480 --> 40:50.080]  you know, you've got all these stockholders holding the thousand shares and you decide
[40:50.080 --> 40:56.000]  just to print up overnight another thousand shares. Okay. Now, you haven't by, now there's
[40:56.000 --> 41:00.640]  two thousand shares that represent your company. You haven't increased the value of your company.
[41:00.640 --> 41:06.400]  All you've done is diluted the value of each of the shares that was already in existence.
[41:07.360 --> 41:11.840]  Because now there's two thousand shares of stock out there that represent the value of your country
[41:11.840 --> 41:15.360]  instead of a thousand shares. Well, if you look at the money supply as the same thing,
[41:15.360 --> 41:22.320]  that's the stock of shares that the public at large uses for its money. Now, if the government
[41:22.320 --> 41:27.520]  just comes in and doubles it, which they have since September, they've just diluted the value
[41:27.520 --> 41:34.640]  of all the existing shares. So it's only a matter of time. Only a matter of time until the loss of
[41:34.640 --> 41:43.520]  purchasing power is felt. As they spend this money into the economy and extract the value
[41:43.520 --> 41:52.240]  value from the money at the current rate, then those people who accept those dollars will find
[41:52.240 --> 41:58.240]  that they are worth half or less than what they were when they received them. All right. We're
[41:58.240 --> 42:03.680]  going to break. We'll be right back. This is the Rule of Law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens
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[45:57.280 --> 46:03.840]  I don't see no good friends in this time, and I hope and pray you'll help me understand.
[46:03.840 --> 46:30.640]  I just got another part of the plan, and I know my fate is at the back of my head.
[46:34.800 --> 46:37.440]  All right, we are back. The rule of law.
[46:39.200 --> 46:47.040]  Footprints in the sand. A song about everyone's favorite little poem saying about the Lord
[46:47.040 --> 46:53.680]  carrying you when there's only one set of footprints in the sand. Okay, we're going back to Dr. Bill
[46:53.680 --> 46:57.520]  Veith, and you said that you had an issue you wanted to address, and then we'll start taking
[46:57.520 --> 47:02.400]  calls. Callers, if you'd like to start calling in 512-646-1984. Okay, go ahead, Bill.
[47:02.400 --> 47:10.640]  Okay, yeah. The one thing I wanted to say was that among the problems of diluting the purchasing
[47:10.640 --> 47:17.360]  power of our dollars is that eventually the Federal Reserve and our government will lose control
[47:17.360 --> 47:24.240]  of their ability to manipulate the economy of this country and the money system, because what
[47:24.240 --> 47:32.160]  happens is central banks of other countries have been for many, many years investing in the United
[47:32.160 --> 47:36.960]  States bonds and bills, because they take the dollars that we ship to them. Let's take China
[47:36.960 --> 47:41.600]  for example. They sell products to the United States. We get their goods. We send them dollars.
[47:41.600 --> 47:49.600]  The central bank takes the dollars and buys T-bills or bonds and collects a 5% or 6% return
[47:49.600 --> 47:54.800]  and holds those assets in their banks. Well, as soon as they start realizing,
[47:55.440 --> 48:01.040]  which they already are, they're not stupid, as soon as they realize that the dollar they're
[48:01.040 --> 48:06.160]  creating, we're creating so many new dollars that it's losing 10% of its purchasing power
[48:07.040 --> 48:13.600]  a year, they're not going to be happy collecting 5% interest off the bond knowing that the dollar
[48:13.600 --> 48:20.400]  is losing 10% purchasing power a year. So when the purchasing power loss becomes greater than
[48:20.400 --> 48:24.880]  the amount of interest paid, nobody wants dollars anymore. People are not going to lend
[48:24.880 --> 48:31.120]  the government money to get their T-bills and bonds. So when foreign banks realize they don't
[48:31.120 --> 48:36.640]  want to hold dollars anymore or dollar-denominated assets, they'll start repatriating those dollars
[48:36.640 --> 48:42.400]  back into this country. And the way they'll do that is to use this worthless paper to buy
[48:43.200 --> 48:48.400]  resources in the United States or real estate or goods and services, and the dollars will come
[48:48.400 --> 48:54.160]  back into the United States. Now you're going to have additional hyperinflation because all those
[48:54.160 --> 48:58.960]  dollars that were sitting somewhere before, where people were competing for them and holding them,
[48:58.960 --> 49:02.400]  now they're going to come into the United States and flood the United States, and now you're going
[49:02.400 --> 49:07.760]  to have more hyperinflation because all the existing dollars are going to be coming back
[49:07.760 --> 49:12.960]  into this country. So that's another problem that the United States, you know, I don't know
[49:12.960 --> 49:16.720]  what their relationship is with each of these countries, but I don't think these countries
[49:16.720 --> 49:25.040]  are going to want to continue to purchase and use these depreciating dollars. So that's going to
[49:25.040 --> 49:34.640]  cause a problem for us too. Will the United States dollar, the U.S. dollar, be the only currency to
[49:34.640 --> 49:44.080]  devalue at this time? No, the reason is they're all devaluing because all of these countries
[49:44.080 --> 49:52.720]  peg their own currency emission to the dollar. So like as the United States prints more and more
[49:52.720 --> 49:57.840]  dollars and depreciates its money, they print more of their currency and depreciate it more,
[49:57.840 --> 50:03.200]  maybe not in the exact amount. So what we have, see they always talk about these currencies float
[50:03.200 --> 50:08.720]  against each other, and they don't float. They're all sinking, but just sinking at different rates
[50:08.720 --> 50:15.680]  at different times. So that's what they have to hide is that every paper currency is depreciating.
[50:15.680 --> 50:20.720]  Every government does the same thing, and they do it competitively with each other because if the
[50:20.720 --> 50:26.640]  United States, you know, depreciates its dollar, then other countries want to depreciate theirs too,
[50:26.640 --> 50:34.000]  or their goods are going to be too expensive. Let's say we want to buy cars made in Germany or Japan.
[50:34.000 --> 50:39.200]  If they don't depreciate their currency, nobody's going to be able to afford to buy
[50:39.200 --> 50:42.960]  their products from those countries. It's going to take too many dollars to buy their products,
[50:42.960 --> 50:48.800]  and they won't be able to sell them. So believe it or not, in a debt-based system of currency,
[50:48.800 --> 50:54.480]  everybody wants a weak currency, not a strong currency to sell if they're an exporting country,
[50:54.480 --> 50:58.400]  and they want to sell their goods outside of their own country. Now, if you're only selling
[50:58.400 --> 51:02.400]  your goods inside your own country, then you don't mind having a strong currency,
[51:02.400 --> 51:06.960]  and you buy cheap goods from other countries and keep your goods. But if you want to trade or sell
[51:06.960 --> 51:12.480]  things outside of your country, you've got to have a cheap currency. Wow, incredible.
[51:12.480 --> 51:17.920]  So it sounds like even though our dollar is crashing, is dropping like a stone,
[51:20.000 --> 51:25.520]  other countries don't want our dollar to depreciate relative to theirs too much because
[51:25.520 --> 51:32.880]  we are such a large economy. Exactly. So we have competitive depreciation of currencies all over
[51:32.880 --> 51:41.920]  the world. Great. Kind of like crabs in a bucket. I'm telling you, when you work, when you live
[51:41.920 --> 51:49.840]  under a system that monetizes debt as its money system, everything is upside down. Everything is
[51:49.840 --> 51:53.280]  backwards and upside down from the way it should be and the way you would think it would be.
[51:53.280 --> 51:56.800]  So it certainly sounds that way, Bill.
[51:56.800 --> 51:58.400]  We're living through the looking glass.
[51:59.520 --> 52:04.800]  Yep. So anyway, if there are spoilers on the line and you want to take them, I'll be glad.
[52:06.320 --> 52:11.280]  And after that, then I wanted to ask you a few things about the current metals market.
[52:11.280 --> 52:16.560]  First, we're going to go to Rick in California. Hey, Rick, thanks for calling in. You have a
[52:16.560 --> 52:21.200]  question for Dr. Bill Vease? Yes, and thanks for having me on here.
[52:21.200 --> 52:29.920]  Sure. My question would be, most people already, not most, maybe some or a lot of other people
[52:29.920 --> 52:34.800]  already know this. They know that the money is not money. It's just pretty much a notice
[52:34.800 --> 52:40.400]  promised to pay. It's an IOU. However, it really doesn't matter because most people,
[52:40.400 --> 52:46.560]  now that I've been going on through my two relations here in Glendale, are either lazy
[52:46.560 --> 52:52.400]  or too scared to do anything about it anyway, unfortunately. So my question would be, what is
[52:52.400 --> 52:57.920]  it that we could do to people that do want to take action? How can we present this to the lazy
[52:57.920 --> 53:01.600]  people or the ignorant people that just choose not to see it or maybe just don't want to do
[53:01.600 --> 53:06.320]  anything about it in a way that maybe they would want to do something about it? Obviously,
[53:06.320 --> 53:10.400]  defending the economy would be one good way to start. But do you guys have any suggestions,
[53:10.400 --> 53:16.720]  maybe, of other information we can give to people so that they may wake up?
[53:19.440 --> 53:20.080]  Dr. Vease?
[53:22.720 --> 53:23.600]  Dr. Vease, are you there?
[53:25.280 --> 53:32.480]  We may have lost him. I suspect the best we can do is what we're doing, is bring the information
[53:32.480 --> 53:40.960]  out. It is the nature of the human animal, at least in my belief, that all of us are at different
[53:42.240 --> 53:47.280]  places in the world. We all have different issues. We all have different pressures.
[53:49.360 --> 53:58.400]  We're not going to reach everyone. It's just not going to happen. It may be that that's how it
[53:58.400 --> 54:06.000]  is intended to be. Those few of us who are in this area and recognize that things are going on,
[54:06.000 --> 54:14.800]  it's as if it's our duty to carry the banner and wake up as many as we can. I don't know any more
[54:14.800 --> 54:20.800]  effective way to do it than what Dr. Vease has done. We have him back. Dr. Vease, are you there?
[54:20.800 --> 54:29.440]  Dr. Vease? We'll have to get him back on the break.
[54:29.440 --> 54:34.800]  All we can do is hold it out there and explain what's going on. Some people will be able to hear it
[54:35.680 --> 54:40.960]  and some people will not. We can't get too concerned about the ones who won't hear it.
[54:43.440 --> 54:49.760]  Things are changing. The climate is changing. We used to talk about people who were asleep
[54:49.760 --> 54:54.720]  and people who were awake. You never hear that term anymore.
[54:55.440 --> 55:04.080]  Actually, Dr. Vease does have some videos of some seminars that he's given. He did an interview in
[55:04.080 --> 55:11.040]  studio with Alex Jones. It's excellent. You can find that on Google Video, actually. If you go
[55:11.040 --> 55:20.160]  to Google Video and look up, I believe it is the Fiat Currency System is what it's called.
[55:21.440 --> 55:31.040]  It's about 45-minute video. It's very good. He lays it out. He just totally lays it out. It's
[55:31.040 --> 55:37.600]  perfect. I would recommend going to that and spreading that around, getting people to watch
[55:37.600 --> 55:43.760]  that video because it's very well produced and he just really lays it out. Once you see that video,
[55:46.080 --> 55:48.640]  it's like taking the red pill. You just can't go back after that.
[55:49.440 --> 55:51.520]  To answer your question, looking for materials.
[55:53.520 --> 55:58.080]  Be patient with people. You're asking them to change their entire paradigm.
[55:59.760 --> 56:04.640]  You talk to them and you plant a seed or two and they'll disagree and disagree and disagree.
[56:04.640 --> 56:08.480]  You talk to them next time and they'll just disagree and disagree and disagree.
[56:09.520 --> 56:16.960]  The next time they'll only disagree. It grows. I guess the primary advice is be patient.
[56:17.920 --> 56:25.040]  We'll bring them by a piece at a time. What you're doing is an example. You're bringing
[56:25.040 --> 56:29.680]  the police around. You sting them a little bit and they jump up and down and raise cane. You sting
[56:29.680 --> 56:35.440]  them again and they jump up and down a little bit. You sting them again and all of a sudden
[56:36.480 --> 56:42.880]  you become sir. I just looked it up on Google Video, by the way, Rick. It is called the Fiat
[56:42.880 --> 56:49.520]  Currency System. Just go to Google Video and type that in. It's the second thing on the list. It
[56:49.520 --> 56:55.520]  says the Fiat Money System. Actually, it's called the Fiat Money System. Dr. Bill Veath in studio
[56:55.520 --> 57:01.680]  with Alex Jones. It's a 42-minute video and I highly recommend it. It's excellent.
[57:04.880 --> 57:10.960]  Piece at a time. What you're doing is an example. You're bringing the police around.
[57:11.520 --> 57:15.360]  You sting them a little bit and they jump up and down and raise cane. You sting them again
[57:16.320 --> 57:20.560]  and they jump up and down a little bit. You sting them again and all of a sudden
[57:20.560 --> 57:26.720]  you become sir. I just looked it up on Google Video, by the way, Rick. It is called the Fiat
[57:26.720 --> 57:33.600]  Currency System. Just go to Google Video and type that in. It's the second thing on the list. It
[57:33.600 --> 57:39.440]  says the Fiat Money System. Actually, it's called the Fiat Money System. Dr. Bill Veath in studio
[57:39.440 --> 57:45.680]  with Alex Jones. It's a 42-minute video and I highly recommend it. It's excellent.
[57:45.680 --> 57:48.880]  Okay. Is it okay if I ask you guys a quick question?
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[01:00:04.560 --> 01:00:17.760]  The book, all you people on the job, blessed moon, stars, and souls, come together let
[01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:28.160]  me answer for all. Do it! They came from Jerusalem, they came from Rome. They were just looking for
[01:00:28.160 --> 01:00:39.760]  some place else to come home. They came from Babylon, they came from sun. They had plenty of
[01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:48.480]  money, just enough to get around. They came from the Congo, they came from the north. Sometimes
[01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:59.200]  it's just a culture that they die on the roots of trade. Working on the roots of trade. Working
[01:00:59.200 --> 01:01:06.080]  on the roots of trade. I'm talking to the young, I'm talking to the old. I'm talking to the
[01:01:06.080 --> 01:01:17.600]  one running around hot coal. But I know they've got enough. We love one another. We love one
[01:01:17.600 --> 01:01:27.440]  another. We love one another. I tell you that we love one another. Came from Harvard, they came
[01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:38.480]  from Yale. Came from the mental health center and the county jail. They've been to Vietnam,
[01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:49.600]  they've been to Canada. Been to the Persian Gulf and they've been down to Grenada. If not for the
[01:01:49.600 --> 01:01:55.040]  war, they might have been anywhere. Still it's ashes to ashes and clink to clink. I'm on the roots
[01:01:55.040 --> 01:01:59.680]  trade. I live and look one another. Working on the roots trade. I live and look one another.
[01:01:59.680 --> 01:02:05.200]  Working on the roots trade. I live and look one another. Working on the roots trade. I live and look
[01:02:05.200 --> 01:02:10.720]  one another. Stop with the bullshit. Stop with the fighting. Let's try a little love and some
[01:02:10.720 --> 01:02:16.480]  courage. I need to stop with the bullshit. Stop with the fighting. Let's try a little love and some
[01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:24.880]  uniting. I need to love one another. Love one another. Love one another.
[01:02:27.040 --> 01:02:33.600]  All right, we are back. This is the rule of law, Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[01:02:33.600 --> 01:02:39.600]  All right, we're trying to get back, Dr. Bill Veath. In the meantime, let's continue to take
[01:02:39.600 --> 01:02:45.600]  some calls. All right, we've, Rick, did you have anything else you wanted to say?
[01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:52.160]  If I could ask one quick question. Okay, go ahead. Okay, I got a letter back not too long ago,
[01:02:52.160 --> 01:02:57.520]  maybe like a week or two from the chief of police, Glendale, stating that, of course,
[01:02:57.520 --> 01:03:02.560]  they found that the officers on three different occasions of allegations that I made on this
[01:03:02.560 --> 01:03:11.520]  conduct, that none of them ever broke any law or police policy. As far as law goes, I believe
[01:03:11.520 --> 01:03:17.840]  they broke it on many levels, but my question would be if that is true and I can prove that
[01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:26.560]  they broke the law, would it be possible for me to charge the chief of police with conspiracy
[01:03:26.560 --> 01:03:31.680]  or maybe collusion or something like that? Well, it would seem like he would be attempting
[01:03:31.680 --> 01:03:41.440]  to shield from prosecution. That tends to be a crime everywhere. I haven't seen the exact
[01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:48.560]  statute in California, but that's what I'd look at. If he's claiming that these guys doing these
[01:03:48.560 --> 01:03:55.200]  things don't violate policy, then that goes to policy in the Monell sense, where the city
[01:03:55.200 --> 01:04:04.640]  becomes liable for policy that supports illegal practices. Okay, right. Because the one where
[01:04:04.640 --> 01:04:09.680]  they said that I was supposedly sleeping in my car, I looked at the statute yesterday,
[01:04:09.680 --> 01:04:15.840]  and it's funny because it says that if you even have sheets or clothing in your car,
[01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:23.120]  that they can charge you for that. It's amazing. All right. If you have sheets or clothing in
[01:04:23.120 --> 01:04:30.720]  your car, what if you went to the store and bought some sheets? What if you're going camping?
[01:04:30.720 --> 01:04:37.200]  Come on. What if you go to the laundry mat? Give me a break. That's what I was thinking.
[01:04:37.200 --> 01:04:42.640]  When I went to the city council members, I told the mayor, I said, I guess it's a crime
[01:04:42.640 --> 01:04:47.200]  if you're going to go washing. Everybody laughed, but he didn't. The mayor didn't ask, of course.
[01:04:47.200 --> 01:04:53.840]  All right, and we do have Dr. Bill Vieth back. Dr. Vieth, you there? Yes, I am. Okay, great,
[01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:58.960]  great. All right, Rick, did you have any other questions for Dr. Vieth?
[01:05:00.080 --> 01:05:04.560]  No, that was it, and thank you for that information, Deb and Randy and Dr. Vieth.
[01:05:04.560 --> 01:05:08.720]  I really appreciate it. I will be looking at the video, and I'll see if I can burn some DVDs and
[01:05:08.720 --> 01:05:11.600]  pass them out here in Glendale. Thank you very much. Okay, excellent, excellent.
[01:05:11.600 --> 01:05:19.200]  Bill, when we had lost your phone call, Rick was asking about any materials to give out,
[01:05:19.200 --> 01:05:24.720]  and so I directed him to your video, the Fiat Money System, which is on Google Video.
[01:05:24.720 --> 01:05:29.760]  Okay, okay, very good. I think that that's very good. All right, let's take a look.
[01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:34.480]  Like I've told people, I don't have a website because I don't sell anything or market anything,
[01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:39.760]  so basically, I just have the information. I give out on the air, and anybody that happens to record it,
[01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:46.400]  just record it. Wonderful, wonderful. And okay, Bill, I wanted to ask you too,
[01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:53.920]  before we go to any other callers, can you please explain to us what is your take on the metals
[01:05:53.920 --> 01:06:03.120]  market at this point in time? Why are the prices so low when we've got such impending inflation,
[01:06:03.120 --> 01:06:07.680]  or it seems like we are in a situation of some sort of inflation right now. Why are the metals
[01:06:07.680 --> 01:06:12.080]  market, why are the prices so low? It seems like there's something fishy going on here.
[01:06:13.200 --> 01:06:20.560]  Okay, there's two things going on here. One's expected, and one's fishy. The expected thing
[01:06:20.560 --> 01:06:28.640]  that's going on is because we are in a situation where they're calling it deleveraging and a flight
[01:06:28.640 --> 01:06:35.760]  to liquidity, and what's happening is the debt service is getting so high that people need to
[01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:42.720]  get into cash to pay their debts, because cash is legal tender. We're not allowed to pay our debts
[01:06:42.720 --> 01:06:51.040]  in gold or silver or any assets or even promissory notes or mortgages or any type of investment
[01:06:51.040 --> 01:06:57.360]  interest, investment instrument. In order to pay our taxes and our bills, we have to go into
[01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:06.480]  Federal Reserve notes. People, in some cases, might have gold and silver as assets that they've been accumulating over the years,
[01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:12.960]  but if they need to pay their property taxes or IRS taxes or pay their bills, they have to sell those assets
[01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:18.480]  and get Federal Reserve notes to pay their bills. This is happening all over the country,
[01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:23.280]  basically all over the world, where we're getting people that have to pay their debts are trying to
[01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:30.960]  get liquid. You're seeing price declines right now in all asset classes, and some people are
[01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:38.160]  mistaking that. They're calling it, even on the air, they're calling it deflation, and we are not
[01:07:38.160 --> 01:07:45.440]  in deflation. People need to realize that deflation is a decrease in the monetary supply, the monetary base.
[01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:52.800]  What we have is people that have assets, we have them selling those assets to get cash to pay their
[01:07:52.800 --> 01:08:00.320]  debts. That is not deflation. This is expected in a system that monetizes debt. It always gets to the
[01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:06.720]  point where interest on the debt gets so high that people need to go into cash to pay their debts.
[01:08:06.720 --> 01:08:12.240]  So now what they're doing is they're inflating the money supply. As we talked about at the beginning of
[01:08:12.240 --> 01:08:18.640]  the program, they've doubled the money supply by more than double in the last three months than it
[01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:24.400]  was in the first 96 years that the Federal Reserve was in existence. So they're increasing the money
[01:08:24.400 --> 01:08:30.560]  supply. We are going into inflation, but we are also getting a flight to liquidity to pay debts,
[01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:35.360]  and that's why you're seeing all asset classes decline in price. You're seeing a correction of
[01:08:35.360 --> 01:08:42.960]  the market. In an inflationary period, the prices get out of whack. They get too high. So now you're
[01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:48.160]  seeing a correction where the prices should go back to where they should be, but the government
[01:08:48.160 --> 01:08:53.280]  keeps intervening and won't let them get back there. So they're causing more of a problem.
[01:08:53.280 --> 01:08:59.680]  Everybody's trying to get all the money they can to pay off these debts before the dollar becomes
[01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:06.480]  worthless. Right, and because sometimes they have to, because see when we borrow money into
[01:09:06.480 --> 01:09:12.320]  circulation, we borrow the principal amounts, but we don't borrow the interest, but we owe back the
[01:09:12.320 --> 01:09:17.600]  interest. Now that's fine at the beginning of the game, because if you're borrowing a million
[01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:24.000]  dollars and you only owe five, six percent interest on that, at the end of the year you only owe
[01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:30.000]  $60,000. Okay, but as the years go by, you keep borrowing more and more money into existence to
[01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:36.880]  pay back the interest, and eventually the interest gets so high that it takes more and more borrowing
[01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:41.920]  to continue to service the existing debt, and that's when the money system starts to collapse.
[01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:48.320]  It's just like if I gave you a credit card and said you have no ceiling, you can run that up as
[01:09:48.320 --> 01:09:53.280]  high as you want, buy all the stuff you want. For a while there, you can look very proud of it.
[01:09:53.280 --> 01:09:58.000]  You can look very prosperous, putting all kinds of stuff on that credit card, and great, all you're
[01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:01.680]  doing is paying the six percent interest on the credit card. You're not even having to pay back
[01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:06.240]  the principal. Well, eventually you're going to buy so many goods and services that you can't even
[01:10:06.240 --> 01:10:13.120]  pay back the six percent, and that's the problem that we've got. So a system of monetizing debt
[01:10:13.120 --> 01:10:18.720]  at interest causes people to continue to have to borrow, borrow, borrow more and more and more
[01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:23.440]  until eventually they can't service that debt. That's the point we've got to worldwide, and that's
[01:10:23.440 --> 01:10:28.720]  why everybody's flying, there's a flight now to cash, and that's why it looks like the dollar is
[01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:34.960]  actually going stronger and going up in value against other currencies and other asset classes,
[01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:40.720]  and it is right now because people need dollars because that's the legal tender, and that's what
[01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:46.560]  we have to pay our stuff in. But that's a temporary phenomenon, and now they're injecting so much
[01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:51.760]  liquidity into the system that we're going to start to see, and it's probably six months to a year,
[01:10:51.760 --> 01:11:00.800]  major price increases again. So the crash is on its way. It's just a matter of catching up.
[01:11:02.160 --> 01:11:10.480]  Yes, yes. This is an expected, this is an expected phase of the collapse of a currency.
[01:11:10.480 --> 01:11:15.200]  So kind of like a lull before the storm.
[01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:22.560]  Right. It's a lull before the storm. You could say that, but it's also the point where you start
[01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:29.680]  getting the cascading cross defaults all across in all sectors where people can't pay their debts,
[01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:35.760]  and so in order to try to pay them, they have to sell, sell, sell whatever they have to get cash
[01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:41.520]  to pay their debts. So when you get a lot more selling, you get a bigger supply of things on
[01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:47.760]  the market, and so the prices of those things start to go down because you get a big supply.
[01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:54.480]  But what happens is after you get a lot of these defaults, you get people losing jobs.
[01:11:55.280 --> 01:12:02.160]  Like right now, I read recently that in the year 2009, there's expected to be one-fourth of all
[01:12:02.160 --> 01:12:08.800]  retail stores are going to close this year. One-fourth of all retail. So look how many
[01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:13.760]  millions of people that will put out of work. Look how many malls and strip centers that will leave
[01:12:13.760 --> 01:12:20.320]  with no tenants. Then that's going to create a commercial real estate crisis because now you're
[01:12:20.320 --> 01:12:26.000]  going to have major malls that lose their anchor tenants, and if you don't have an anchor tenant
[01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:30.160]  there, then the smaller stores can't draw as many people. They're going to start to collapse.
[01:12:30.160 --> 01:12:36.560]  So this is the cascading cross-default scenario that you see in a collapsing currency.
[01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:39.280]  Well, it doesn't surprise me, Bill, because
[01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:47.840]  while we were discussing this on Tom Keiley's show the other day, the fact that
[01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:54.560]  both of us noticed that when we went, we're going to Home Depot and Lowe's over the weekend
[01:12:54.560 --> 01:13:02.560]  before Christmas, the price was empty. It was totally empty. I couldn't believe it.
[01:13:04.160 --> 01:13:08.880]  Wait until you see at the end of this year how many retail stores are going to close,
[01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:14.160]  and there's already been a number of major mall owners have already filed for bankruptcy
[01:13:14.160 --> 01:13:20.080]  just in the last two weeks. Some huge mall owners, they lose their anchor tenants at
[01:13:20.080 --> 01:13:25.200]  one at each end of the mall. They're cooked. They're gone. So now they're going to be real
[01:13:25.200 --> 01:13:32.560]  estate defaults. It's going to get really, really ugly, but see what Obama is saying he's going to
[01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:39.680]  do. See, what they did before was they shifted the private debt to public debt by bailing these
[01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:44.640]  people out. They had their own private debts, and now they're making the public pay for their private
[01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:48.640]  debts, but since we can't pay for them all, they have to print money too, but they're going to use
[01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:54.160]  some of our tax money to pay for it and print more money. Okay, now they're going to...
[01:13:54.160 --> 01:13:58.640]  Wait a minute. We're going to break. Let's finish up on the other side. We have another guest coming
[01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:04.240]  up, David Marland. We'll be getting to him at the bottom of the hour. We'll be right back.
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[01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:46.720]  you brought your big guns it doesn't bother me at all the harder you will push the harder you will
[01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:57.520]  fall everybody needs somebody to depend on to help your brother to stand alone
[01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:20.520]  Everybody needs somebody to depend on, Help your sister to stand alone.
[01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:31.520]  So now your money got me into the poorhouse, Isn't it funny, the water, water everywhere.
[01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:42.520]  Not much for drinking, and it got me just thinking, Plenty for bombers, but not a dollar to spare.
[01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:52.520]  Everybody needs somebody to depend on, Help your brother to stand alone.
[01:16:52.520 --> 01:17:14.520]  Everybody needs somebody to depend on, Help your sister to stand alone.
[01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:24.520]  Stand alone, you better stand alone.
[01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:46.520]  Stand alone, you better stand alone.
[01:17:46.520 --> 01:18:02.520]  Everybody needs somebody to depend on, Help your sister to stand alone.
[01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:18.520]  Stand alone, you better stand alone.
[01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:39.520]  So now your lawyers, you got me into the courthouse, Whole lot of jargon, won't common sense to do fine.
[01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:50.520]  And when you ask me about the freedom for the people, Each one must look toward the heart eventually for a sign.
[01:18:50.520 --> 01:19:02.520]  And everybody needs somebody to depend on, Help your brother to stand alone.
[01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:09.520]  So now your police got me into the courthouse.
[01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:12.520]  Okay, we are going back to Dr. Vieth.
[01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:18.520]  And Dr. Vieth, you're just about to tell us what to expect and what Obama is going to do.
[01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:20.520]  And then we're going to take a couple of calls.
[01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:21.520]  Okay.
[01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:26.520]  What Obama is going to do is now, see now the private consumption is drying up.
[01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:29.520]  The private sector doesn't, they're tapped out, they're exhausted.
[01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:32.520]  They can't buy things anymore and consume like they used to.
[01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:40.520]  So now in order to keep the game going a little longer, we have to go to public consumption rather than private consumption.
[01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:47.520]  So Obama's plan is to have the government contract out to build bridges and roads and do our infrastructure
[01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:52.520]  and have the government hire everybody and try to put people back to work through government spending.
[01:19:52.520 --> 01:19:58.520]  But again, since they can't borrow the money from the private sector and from foreign countries like they once could,
[01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:01.520]  they now have to use those printed funds.
[01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:04.520]  They have to put out bonds, sell bonds to the Federal Reserve.
[01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:07.520]  The Federal Reserve will buy the bonds by printing more money out of thin air.
[01:20:07.520 --> 01:20:11.520]  And then there will be public consumption rather than private consumption.
[01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:18.520]  And the other thing I wanted to say before you take the call is before you asked about why gold and silver prices were down,
[01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:22.520]  and I told you one was expected and I forgot to tell you the other part,
[01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:26.520]  the expected part is all asset classes are going down obviously because they're selling,
[01:20:26.520 --> 01:20:29.520]  you know, people need liquidity to pay their debts.
[01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:36.520]  But the other reason gold and silver are staying down is that the powers that be work harder
[01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:41.520]  to suppress the price of gold and silver than they do probably anything on the planet
[01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:48.520]  because if they ever let the free market value of gold and silver get to where it should be,
[01:20:48.520 --> 01:20:53.520]  it would expose the worthlessness of all the paper currencies.
[01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:58.520]  So they use the paper game by selling paper contracts in gold and silver
[01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:05.520]  and they short gold and silver all the time in order to keep the price down.
[01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:11.520]  But see, now what we're starting to see is a huge divergence between the spot price of gold and silver,
[01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:15.520]  which is determined by the paper markets, and the physical price of gold and silver,
[01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:20.520]  which is what somebody needs to pay to get an ounce of gold or an ounce of silver in a coin or bullion form.
[01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:27.520]  And we're starting to see 25 and 30 percent discrepancies between the paper price and the physical price.
[01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:35.520]  And so this is starting to expose the fraud game of the paper system that sets the spot price.
[01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:40.520]  But anyway, that's the other reason that gold and silver are down is because the prices are suppressed
[01:21:40.520 --> 01:21:43.520]  by the powers that be to print the paper currencies all over the world.
[01:21:43.520 --> 01:21:46.520]  Anyway, I wanted to get that out before we took this next call.
[01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:51.520]  Excellent. Okay, let's go to our caller.
[01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:53.520]  We've got Eddie in Texas.
[01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:56.520]  Eddie, what's your question for Dr. Vieth?
[01:21:56.520 --> 01:21:58.520]  Actually, mine is for Randy.
[01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:02.520]  I called in last night and was going to call back tonight.
[01:22:02.520 --> 01:22:04.520]  Okay.
[01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:06.520]  I'm sorry.
[01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:10.520]  I realize what y'all are trying to get out tonight, but I've got a couple of things that Randy should be a big help with.
[01:22:10.520 --> 01:22:11.520]  Okay. All right.
[01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:15.520]  Well, can you hold on to the next slide while we finish up with Dr. Vieth?
[01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:16.520]  Sure.
[01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:29.520]  And then we have another guest, David Merland, and give us a – can you call back in about – after Merland,
[01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:33.520]  kind of when we go to questions behind Dr. – David Merland.
[01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:35.520]  Sure. What time will this be?
[01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:37.520]  Okay. Yeah, call back in about a half an hour or so.
[01:22:37.520 --> 01:22:41.520]  Yeah, let's give him a half hour or so to kind of – to give his position.
[01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:43.520]  He's like me.
[01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:45.520]  You got us off the air at 10 tonight?
[01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:47.520]  No, no, we go until midnight on Fridays.
[01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:48.520]  So we've got more time.
[01:22:48.520 --> 01:22:49.520]  All right, good.
[01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:51.520]  And I'll see you in about 30 minutes.
[01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:52.520]  Okay, great.
[01:22:52.520 --> 01:22:55.520]  Yeah, he does what I do, so he'll be a help as well.
[01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:58.520]  He'll be able to give some perspective that I can't.
[01:22:58.520 --> 01:23:01.520]  Okay. Let's go now to George in Texas.
[01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:02.520]  How are you doing?
[01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:03.520]  Hey, George.
[01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:05.520]  You have a question for our guest, Dr. Vieth?
[01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:09.520]  Yes. You know, the thing is that I'm hearing everybody's going,
[01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:12.520]  Obama's going to come up with this new stimulus package.
[01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:17.520]  I'm like that is – I said that's going to result in hyperinflation.
[01:23:17.520 --> 01:23:20.520]  I say you're putting a bunch of money that's so worthless.
[01:23:20.520 --> 01:23:23.520]  I said I'm buying lots of toilet paper
[01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:27.520]  because that's going to be worth more than a dollar print on a printing press.
[01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:32.520]  You must have heard Dr. Vieth before.
[01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:34.520]  Well, anyway –
[01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:36.520]  He suggested exactly that.
[01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:38.520]  Well, he said, Dr. Vieth, why is it Zimbabwe?
[01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:40.520]  Is that where it is?
[01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:42.520]  Right. Yeah, don't even buy the toilet paper there.
[01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:44.520]  Just use the paper currency.
[01:23:44.520 --> 01:23:47.520]  It's a lot cheaper than the toilet paper.
[01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:51.520]  I mean, the thing is – but you know one thing?
[01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:55.520]  Gerald Solente said – he's a trans-bordercaster.
[01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:58.520]  Yes, I'm very familiar with him.
[01:23:58.520 --> 01:24:01.520]  Well, he says we're in a midst of something dying.
[01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:04.520]  These old bankers, these old Wall Streeters.
[01:24:04.520 --> 01:24:09.520]  This space is dying out because this system cannot stand.
[01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:15.520]  And I don't really think the American people will be up to the Amero.
[01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:17.520]  Well, you know, they may just skip the Amero
[01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:21.520]  and try to go straight to a global currency called the Globo or the Phoenix.
[01:24:21.520 --> 01:24:23.520]  I've heard two different names.
[01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:29.520]  They want to get us into an electronic form – the Globo or the Phoenix.
[01:24:29.520 --> 01:24:33.520]  I've heard two names possibly mentioned for the global currency
[01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:38.520]  that they're trying to get us into, which will be totally electronic deposits.
[01:24:38.520 --> 01:24:40.520]  Incredible.
[01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:45.520]  You know, interestingly, he's talking about Gerald Solente,
[01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:49.520]  who's a very good forecaster and very informative.
[01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:54.520]  I also heard somebody else on one of the radio shows on the Internet yesterday
[01:24:54.520 --> 01:24:58.520]  or maybe it was even today say that what's happening right now in the world
[01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:02.520]  is the trillionaires are bankrupting the billionaires.
[01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:05.520]  That literally the real ruling elites like the Rothschilds
[01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:13.520]  and these people that own the central banks are bankrupting the billionaires now.
[01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:15.520]  Because they don't want any competition.
[01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:17.520]  They're feeding on each other.
[01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:20.520]  Right, exactly.
[01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:23.520]  George, do you have anything else?
[01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:28.520]  Just like to say, you know, the thing is, I'm on DeBita's global system.
[01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:30.520]  We must start thinking locally.
[01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:34.520]  I mean, I go buy from the farmer's market now, and I'm buying locally.
[01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:37.520]  I'm not buying from the big box stores no more,
[01:25:37.520 --> 01:25:40.520]  because what's good for Wall Street is bad for Main Street,
[01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:43.520]  and what's good for Main Street is bad for Wall Street.
[01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:44.520]  Exactly.
[01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:49.520]  Okay, George, we need to let you go because you've got a real bad phone line.
[01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:50.520]  Okay, I'm sorry, George.
[01:25:50.520 --> 01:25:52.520]  Maybe you could call back in later in the show.
[01:25:52.520 --> 01:25:57.520]  Okay, Dr. Beath, we have about a minute and a half left, so any closing comments?
[01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:01.520]  Yeah, I was just going to say, a lot of people are talking about buying only USA stuff,
[01:26:01.520 --> 01:26:05.520]  but the problem is the USA doesn't produce much anymore,
[01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:08.520]  and even things that are produced by USA corporations,
[01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:10.520]  a lot of them are now international corporations.
[01:26:10.520 --> 01:26:13.520]  They have arms and extensions in all countries,
[01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:16.520]  and they're not really even USA countries anymore.
[01:26:16.520 --> 01:26:20.520]  So if we don't produce anything in this country or manufacture things,
[01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:23.520]  it's kind of hard to buy just from this country.
[01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:27.520]  Yes, 40 years ago, 20 years ago, I tried to start a business
[01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:32.520]  building a floor scrubber on a diesel tractor,
[01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:38.520]  and I tried to find a, I'm sorry, not a diesel tractor, on a gasoline-powered tractor.
[01:26:38.520 --> 01:26:42.520]  And 20 years ago, you could not buy a gasoline-powered tractor,
[01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:49.520]  neither could you buy a tractor under 100 horsepower manufactured in the United States, period.
[01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:51.520]  Okay, listen, we are going to break.
[01:26:51.520 --> 01:26:53.520]  Dr. Beath, thank you so much for joining us.
[01:26:53.520 --> 01:27:01.520]  Listeners, you can see his video on Google Video Look Up the Fiat Money System.
[01:27:01.520 --> 01:27:03.520]  Thank you, Dr. Beath.
[01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:05.520]  Thank you for having me. It's been a pleasure.
[01:27:05.520 --> 01:27:07.520]  Talk to you all later.
[01:27:07.520 --> 01:27:12.520]  Gold prices are at historic highs, and with the recent pullback, this is a great time to buy.
[01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:16.520]  With the value of the dollar, risks of inflation, geopolitical uncertainties,
[01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:20.520]  and instability in world financial systems, I see gold going up much higher.
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[01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:25.520]  Yeah, outside, oh yeah, yeah, away, away, to the boat machine, away, away, away,
[01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:31.520]  to the boat machine, away, that's the way, to the way,
[01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:37.520]  to the boat machine, away.
[01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:41.520]  They use the vote machine and then rob a woman
[01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:44.520]  But the time Mr. Bush steal election from me
[01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:47.520]  When I see what happened in that Ohio State, you see
[01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:50.520]  Them gang go used to hackers and gone happy
[01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:53.520]  Two ladies get a real referee
[01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:57.520]  Now three years later them a tell me
[01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:00.520]  Four years Bush get free on the country
[01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:03.520]  Hey, hey
[01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:06.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:09.520]  Hey, hey
[01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:13.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:17.520]  Paper ballots, just like our wallets
[01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:20.520]  We always gotta see them
[01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:23.520]  So we can get our freedom
[01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:29.520]  Count them one by one by one
[01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:34.520]  Then we watch the river run, run, run
[01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:41.520]  Away, away
[01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:44.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:47.520]  Away, away
[01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:50.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:53.520]  Away, away
[01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:56.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:29:56.520 --> 01:29:59.520]  Away, away
[01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:02.520]  Then they go drive to Washington, them a own paper
[01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:05.520]  Use some college kids to counter cluster
[01:30:05.520 --> 01:30:08.520]  In public view, we want the answer
[01:30:08.520 --> 01:30:11.520]  It's a two election, we want round ya
[01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:14.520]  So the people could see who them vote for, sir
[01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:17.520]  Who knew the computer rob we round ya
[01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:20.520]  Don't know where we a go put up with your tricksterism
[01:30:20.520 --> 01:30:23.520]  Tell you all of them still wouldn't believe the next kizim
[01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:26.520]  Away, away
[01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:29.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:32.520]  Away, away
[01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:35.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:38.520]  Then they go drive to Washington, them a own paper
[01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:41.520]  Use some college kids to counter cluster
[01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:44.520]  In public view, we want the answer
[01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:47.520]  It's a two election, we want round ya
[01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:50.520]  Don't know where we a go put up with your tricksterism
[01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:53.520]  Tell you all of them still wouldn't believe the next kizim
[01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:56.520]  Away, away
[01:30:56.520 --> 01:30:59.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:02.520]  Away, away
[01:31:02.520 --> 01:31:05.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:08.520]  Away, away
[01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:11.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:31:11.520 --> 01:31:14.520]  Away, away
[01:31:14.520 --> 01:31:17.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:20.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:31:20.520 --> 01:31:23.520]  Throw the hell out, we go get election
[01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:26.520]  Go for your election, me say define the land
[01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:29.520]  Come with them computer in hand
[01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:32.520]  And some hackers to rob everyone
[01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:35.520]  But vote for school, me say come along
[01:31:35.520 --> 01:31:38.520]  Be a powerful, me say here in your hand
[01:31:38.520 --> 01:31:41.520]  Be a powerful, come teach ya man
[01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:44.520]  Tell you all of them want for your election
[01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:47.520]  Away, away
[01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:50.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:53.520]  Away, away
[01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:56.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:31:56.520 --> 01:31:59.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:02.520]  Kick the vote machine away
[01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:05.520]  Away, away
[01:32:05.520 --> 01:32:08.520]  Throw the vote machine away
[01:32:08.520 --> 01:32:11.520]  Away, away
[01:32:11.520 --> 01:32:18.520]  Keep the boat machine away, away, away Keep the boat machine away, that's the way
[01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:25.520]  That's the way, that's the way, keep the boat and ship away
[01:32:48.520 --> 01:32:55.520]  Alright, we are back, this is the Rule of Law, Rule of Law Radio, we have another guest
[01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:25.520]  coming up very shortly, David Merland, we will be trying to get him, we are having difficulty
[01:33:26.860 --> 01:33:33.860]  connecting with him on the break, in the meantime, let's take a caller, we've got Patricia in
[01:33:34.320 --> 01:33:41.320]  Texas, Patricia go ahead, how are you all doing, happy new year, happy new year to you,
[01:33:41.320 --> 01:33:48.320]  well yeah, I'm sorry about my voice, I just got out of the hospital, I was very sick but
[01:33:51.280 --> 01:33:58.200]  my husband had called on my behalf, I wish I sounded as good as you do now, but I'm sorry
[01:33:58.200 --> 01:34:05.200]  I'm sick, I do apologize for that, it's not a problem, but thank you dear, and you both
[01:34:05.200 --> 01:34:11.200]  are very inspirational people to me, and I listen to Alex Jones every night, I can't
[01:34:11.200 --> 01:34:18.200]  go to sleep without listening to him, anyway, I went to court on my case, and something
[01:34:18.880 --> 01:34:25.880]  is, will you bring this up to speed on your case, yes, I went to court and all of a sudden
[01:34:27.480 --> 01:34:33.920]  everything like changes, and I went to Judge Denton's court, wait a minute, wait a minute,
[01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:39.120]  tell us what your case is about, well we talked to you before about it, yeah, but we have
[01:34:39.120 --> 01:34:46.120]  a lot of listeners that may not have heard it, okay, about the one where I had an accident
[01:34:47.360 --> 01:34:54.360]  and I left the scene, yes, right, and what happened was, my husband had failed to tell
[01:34:55.400 --> 01:35:02.400]  you that at that time, not now, but there was a lot of abuse and violence going on and
[01:35:02.400 --> 01:35:09.400]  the guy had hit me and ran me, and the manager of the store wanted to go to court, well number
[01:35:10.600 --> 01:35:17.600]  one my lawyer won't let him go, and I left him there for my life, I came back and I turned
[01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:24.920]  myself in, and at that time I was on probation for this abuse and stuff that was happening
[01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:31.920]  and they reinstated me, I went to Rehabilitate Life Works, and everything went, Life Works
[01:35:34.040 --> 01:35:39.200]  is a beautiful program, and I don't know if you heard of it, but I was there for about
[01:35:39.200 --> 01:35:46.200]  eight months, and everything went great, everything was fine, perfect, and I was so happy, and
[01:35:47.080 --> 01:35:53.280]  they told me at Judge Denton's court if I would complete that program, and sorry, I've
[01:35:53.280 --> 01:36:00.280]  been sick, I'm sorry, and you know, go and pay all my fees, that they would release me
[01:36:01.120 --> 01:36:08.120]  and they would make the other charge a lesser charge, and now that I completed the program,
[01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:15.560]  they said, have you checked your paperwork? So lo and behold, I checked my paperwork and
[01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:22.560]  there's three different dates on the indictment, number one, number two, I requested to read
[01:36:23.400 --> 01:36:30.400]  the affidavit, and there's several false statements, number three, I did everything Judge Denton
[01:36:31.320 --> 01:36:37.600]  said, and he won't release me, they won't, and I asked my lawyer today why, and he said
[01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:43.400]  well they want to find out what happens on the other case, I said wait a minute, whoa,
[01:36:43.400 --> 01:36:50.400]  you told me when I finished rehabilitation, and did everything I was told, that they would
[01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:57.600]  release me, and we move on to the next case, and offered me the probation, and now that's
[01:36:58.520 --> 01:37:05.520]  changing, that they're stating that they want to put me in prison, and then give me a year
[01:37:06.320 --> 01:37:11.440]  because I violated it, I said no, no, no, they said if I went through life work and
[01:37:11.440 --> 01:37:18.000]  graduated, that would be an alternative to jail, they said check your paperwork, well
[01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:24.000]  today I checked paperwork, and there's three different indictment dates, and I asked my
[01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:30.000]  lawyer, and I called up, and they said well we can't find your, just call back, they disconnected
[01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:36.000]  me, and this whole thing is just terribly wrong, the whole thing.
[01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:43.000]  The problem is, we're not getting enough information here to put all the pieces together, what
[01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:50.000]  three indictments, there's supposed to be one, yeah, and on the paperwork there's three
[01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:56.000]  different dates, when I called up they go, you were indicted once, and then they put
[01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:00.000]  me on hold, then they disconnected me, and they said well you're going to have to talk
[01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:05.000]  to your lawyer, this is not enough information for me to be able to make any kind of decision
[01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:11.000]  or distinction of what's going on, three different dates, where are the dates at, are they on
[01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:17.000]  documentation, what do the dates refer to, because generally an indictment has within
[01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:21.000]  it a date of offense.
[01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:23.000]  But it's the same offense.
[01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:25.000]  That's the date that matters.
[01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:29.000]  Right, and I asked them why the dates would change.
[01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:33.000]  Do you have three indictments with three different dates of offense?
[01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:35.000]  I have one indictment.
[01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:40.000]  Then how does the indictment have three different dates of offense?
[01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:42.000]  I don't know, but they're the same case.
[01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:45.000]  Wait, you're not making sense here.
[01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:48.000]  Do you have the indictment in front of you?
[01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:49.000]  Yes, I do.
[01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:50.000]  Can you read it?
[01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:53.000]  Sure, I can read it, I can get the paperwork right here.
[01:38:53.000 --> 01:39:00.000]  Hold on, I've got the one paper here, okay, and the other two papers, hold on, I've got
[01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:02.000]  it right here, okay.
[01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:04.000]  I've got my paper right here.
[01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:06.000]  Let me get a little bit of light here.
[01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:08.000]  Just bear with me.
[01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:12.000]  Okay, it says right here, hold on, I need a little bit of light.
[01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:15.000]  I'm sorry, I got in the hospital.
[01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:16.000]  All for the year?
[01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:18.000]  Hold on, let me get the light here.
[01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:20.000]  Just bear with me one hour.
[01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:24.000]  Hold on.
[01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:26.000]  Okay, I've got the light right here.
[01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:36.000]  Okay, it says the indictment date was the 06-19-2008.
[01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:42.000]  Is that the date of offense or the date that the grand jury brought an indictment?
[01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:46.000]  That is not the date of the offense.
[01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:50.000]  The date of offense was back in May.
[01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:52.000]  Can you read the indictment?
[01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:57.000]  I don't have a copy of the indictment.
[01:39:57.000 --> 01:39:58.000]  Okay, I can't help you.
[01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:03.000]  We really need, this is not making sense because see, you may have three dates on the
[01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:05.000]  indictment sheet.
[01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:11.000]  You may have the date of offense on there, the date that the grand jury brought the
[01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:15.000]  indictment, and the date it was filed with the court.
[01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:17.000]  You could have three dates on it.
[01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:19.000]  So you're just saying there's three dates.
[01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:25.000]  The only dates that really would make the indictment invalid is if they're saying that
[01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:28.000]  you committed the crime on three different days.
[01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:30.000]  No, it's only one crime.
[01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:36.000]  Then, if they're saying you committed one crime on three different days, that would
[01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:38.000]  invalidate the indictment.
[01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:40.000]  Otherwise, it wouldn't.
[01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:46.000]  Right, because when I called up, they said that I could not see the indictment.
[01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:49.000]  That was between them and the prosecutor.
[01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:52.000]  Listen, Patricia, we're going to break.
[01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:55.000]  Maybe we can discuss this later on in the show.
[01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:57.000]  We need to get to our guests.
[01:40:57.000 --> 01:40:58.000]  We'll be right back.
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[01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:35.000]  Hello, oh man, in jail, I'm broken.
[01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:50.000]  Something in this world I will never understand, something I realize fully.
[01:42:50.000 --> 01:42:58.000]  Somebody's gonna police that policeman, somebody's gonna police the bully.
[01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:06.000]  There's always a room at the top of the hill, I hear through the grapevine and it's lonely
[01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:07.000]  left too.
[01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:11.000]  They're wishing it with more than opposition to fail.
[01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:14.000]  They know that if they don't do it, somebody's gonna...
[01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:16.000]  All right, we are back.
[01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:18.000]  This is the Rule of Law.
[01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:22.000]  On Rule of Law Radio, we've got a special guest coming up, David Merlin.
[01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:24.000]  He's a statutory purist.
[01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:29.000]  He's gonna tell you how he got started in this and what he's doing now.
[01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:34.000]  But before we go to him, Randy wanted to finish up with Patricia.
[01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:41.000]  Okay, Patricia, I understand you need advice, but we don't have enough information
[01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:43.000]  to be able to give you any advice.
[01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:48.000]  You've told us that there's three different dates on the indictment,
[01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:51.000]  and now you're saying you don't have the indictment,
[01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:55.000]  that the court's saying it's between him and the prosecutor,
[01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:58.000]  and absolutely that is not true.
[01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:02.000]  So something's wrong here, we're missing information.
[01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:05.000]  Yeah, and Patricia, why don't you get a copy of the indictment
[01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:08.000]  because you said you didn't have it and then call us back.
[01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:11.000]  Okay, it is law that if you are indicted,
[01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:15.000]  you must be served with a copy of the indictment.
[01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:17.000]  That's statute.
[01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:19.000]  So somewhere you have to have the indictment.
[01:44:19.000 --> 01:44:22.000]  I suspect there will be problems.
[01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:26.000]  If you're ever arrested in Texas, there are problems.
[01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:29.000]  But the problem you're looking at, I suspect,
[01:44:29.000 --> 01:44:32.000]  is not gonna be one of the real problems.
[01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:34.000]  There will be three dates on the indictment,
[01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:39.000]  but unless you were accused of committing a crime three times on the indictment,
[01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:43.000]  the three different dates are likely to be normal
[01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:45.000]  and expected to be on an indictment.
[01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:48.000]  So I need to see the indictment before we can really move ahead.
[01:44:48.000 --> 01:44:50.000]  Can you call in Monday?
[01:44:50.000 --> 01:44:52.000]  See if you can find the indictment.
[01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:55.000]  Go down to the court and look in the court.
[01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:57.000]  You know, ask for your file and look in there
[01:44:57.000 --> 01:44:59.000]  and see if you can find the indictment.
[01:44:59.000 --> 01:45:03.000]  If you can't find an indictment, see if you can find an information.
[01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:10.000]  Both of them will be basically the same as far as the data that's in there.
[01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:12.000]  And then we'll have something we can work with.
[01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:15.000]  Right now we need to move to David Meyerland.
[01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:19.000]  Meyerland is one of the few guys around that's like me
[01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:25.000]  that has no compunction about filing criminal charges against public officials.
[01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:32.000]  David, can you kind of give us an idea of who you are and how you got to where you are?
[01:45:32.000 --> 01:45:34.000]  Sure. My name is David Meyerland.
[01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:40.000]  I'm self-taught, self-accomplished, self-read, self-published.
[01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:43.000]  I've maybe taken two law seminars in my life.
[01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:45.000]  One was early 90s.
[01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:49.000]  Well, both of them were early 90s, 1991, 92.
[01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:54.000]  Bill Drexler, and I saw how he was willing to be offensive.
[01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:59.000]  And another one was Carl Gramsie out of Minnesota.
[01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:00.000]  That's it.
[01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:03.000]  The rest is totally self-taught.
[01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:11.000]  And what I've found is something that a lot of people are being turned onto,
[01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:15.000]  and they're making great progress in court and out of court,
[01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:18.000]  meaning they're left alone for the little stuff.
[01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:22.000]  They are the people the judges just don't want in their courtroom
[01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:29.000]  because they litigate within the system so offensively that they're outside of the box,
[01:46:29.000 --> 01:46:35.000]  but they're using only the tools that the system offers, and it's ugly.
[01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:38.000]  I've developed a methodology to cause discomfort,
[01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:43.000]  and it's no less than drive-by litigation.
[01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:52.000]  And in 1988, here I was, a highly accomplished and proficient Class H mixologist.
[01:46:52.000 --> 01:46:59.000]  That means a cocktail bartender making $1,100 worth of drinks an hour every Friday and Saturday night.
[01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:05.000]  And then the IRF ticked me off, and I started studying tax law.
[01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:12.000]  In 1993, that was 1988, 1993, I translated the tax code
[01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:19.000]  and started litigating my findings through people that were in trouble with the IRS.
[01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:21.000]  That was my first litigation.
[01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:27.000]  I started writing tax court briefs, studying court rules first time in my life
[01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:33.000]  after these four years, four and a half years of studying nothing but tax code and regulations.
[01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:39.000]  I didn't even leave the tax code for the first four and a half years of research.
[01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:49.000]  Then litigation led to about 30 people filing a boilerplate brief I wrote on my conclusions.
[01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:53.000]  Five of those people appealed to the federal appellate level.
[01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:54.000]  I was writing everything.
[01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:57.000]  This was me learning law.
[01:47:57.000 --> 01:48:01.000]  Then four of those appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court.
[01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:07.000]  Another client came up from state tax court to state Supreme Court to the U.S. Supreme Court.
[01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:08.000]  I wrote all these.
[01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:11.000]  This was the first litigation I conducted.
[01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:18.000]  By the middle of 1997, I had five petitions filed to the Supreme Court.
[01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:25.000]  Two of those were docketed before being denied, meaning they made it past the clerks to the justices.
[01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:32.000]  In the very first attempt at litigation, and I mean small claims came later,
[01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:35.000]  the first litigation I did, it was five trips to the Supreme Court.
[01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:36.000]  Two of those were docketed.
[01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:40.000]  The two that were docketed, and these are tax issues,
[01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:44.000]  the two that were docketed were narrowed down to Section 83 of the tax code.
[01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:47.000]  I argued no other issues.
[01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:50.000]  To this date, I'm the only one teaching it.
[01:48:50.000 --> 01:49:00.000]  I just confronted the Department of Justice with it in federal district court in a tax criminal trial in Alaska.
[01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:07.000]  They can't deny that Section 83 places the value of your labor in the category of cost
[01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:09.000]  and separates it from gross income.
[01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:13.000]  They can't even speak about Section 83 of the code.
[01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:17.000]  I had it to the Supreme Court five times before the middle of 1997.
[01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:19.000]  I'm still the only one teaching it.
[01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:24.000]  Now, criminal complaining is one thing, and that's within my methodology.
[01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:34.000]  But my particular tax issues, I am in federal district court right now with a criminal tax defendant in Alaska that's in jail,
[01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:41.000]  and he has filed onto the record a bunch of pleadings that show the tax code's just fine.
[01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:44.000]  The enforcement of it is the problem.
[01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:54.000]  When you get down to three key issues, which the DOJ just faced and failed miserably in their opposition in a criminal trial,
[01:49:54.000 --> 01:49:59.000]  which is where the burden is much higher on the government to approve guilt,
[01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:06.000]  and they were confronted with these issues under the law, statutory pleadings, claims based on statute,
[01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:12.000]  and they can't even speak of them, and it takes the tax code out of the 50 states.
[01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:22.000]  If it makes it in, I still have Section 83 inside of the tax code that says only the excess over the amount paid is gross income.
[01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:24.000]  They can't even mention that statute.
[01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:26.000]  You can see all of these pleadings.
[01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:28.000]  I just put up a new website.
[01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:29.000]  Can I say it?
[01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:29.000]  Yes.
[01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:30.000]  Of course, of course.
[01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:32.000]  Okay.
[01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:35.000]  Very nice accessories on this website.
[01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:36.000]  Everybody get ready.
[01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:51.000]  Go to JurisInformatics.com, Juris, J-U-R-I-S, Informatics, I-N-F-O-R-M-A-T-I-C-S.com.
[01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:58.000]  You'll see a home page that has the definition of informatics, and then it has my definition of Juris Informatics,
[01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:09.000]  and it's a challenge to law students across the United States that says the DOJ and Congress can't even deny my statutory right to travel claim
[01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:13.000]  applicable to 50 states and my tax code analysis.
[01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:16.000]  Who are you to contradict the DOJ?
[01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:24.000]  They can't even disprove me, so you either disprove me or recognize you're in possession of proof of crime,
[01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:28.000]  and you're therefore required to report it to the federal government.
[01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:32.000]  Secondly, and this might even be more importantly, you're at a law school.
[01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:39.000]  What good is your license to practice if you can't even defend yourself against what's been proven to be a racketeering scheme by your own servants,
[01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:42.000]  this motor vehicle code and the tax code?
[01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:51.000]  Now, when you get into Juris Informatics, it's a total expose of where I am right now in 1988 all the way to 1997,
[01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:58.000]  tax law, that was proven to be futile, so I migrated to state law, motor vehicle code, of course,
[01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:04.000]  and luckily I met Kurt Rigan who oriented me instead of in the Patriot Movement mythology.
[01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:10.000]  It was concentrating and focusing on court rules, state constitution, state law, motor vehicle code,
[01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:17.000]  dude a day, you know, the way you're supposed to do it, and I got to the bottom of the motor vehicle code,
[01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:23.000]  and you'll find that free on this site, you'll find my tax work free on this site,
[01:52:23.000 --> 01:52:30.000]  and there's a nice audio accessory on the page that's inside of the site where you click on the audio,
[01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:33.000]  and I describe the page as you scroll down the page.
[01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:41.000]  Right on the first page, once you've entered, you have the home page, which is amber or orange in color with a picture of the scales.
[01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:48.000]  I click into the curriculum, and here I see page one, help wanted, the Department of Justice needs attorneys
[01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:56.000]  that can disprove these two claims, and right there you have the memorandum that briefs these claims.
[01:52:56.000 --> 01:53:02.000]  You have the page numbers of the memorandums that I filed in Congress, 80 members of Congress three years ago.
[01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:05.000]  They can't respond to me.
[01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:09.000]  These claims are briefed at those page numbers in that 58 page memorandum.
[01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:14.000]  Read the issues and the questions presented for review that have to be answered, if I'm wrong,
[01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:19.000]  and compare it to the DOJ opposition filed in this Alaska case.
[01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:22.000]  You'll have the case number and the defendant's name right there in the caption,
[01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:30.000]  so you see me confronting them with those brief issues, and they oppose those issues by saying,
[01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:33.000]  oh, it appears that he's saying this and that.
[01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:35.000]  Well, why are you saying it appears?
[01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:44.000]  What I'm saying is Americans are only named in regulation 26 CFR 1.1-1 as subjects of the tax code.
[01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:47.000]  The way you do describe Americans, that's not a statute.
[01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:51.000]  The 16th Amendment says only Congress can lay and collect this tax.
[01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:56.000]  We have the definition of citizen in other places in the tax code, but it's in statute.
[01:53:56.000 --> 01:54:01.000]  You named me in administrative regulations only, so this tax violates the 16th Amendment,
[01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:04.000]  which says only Congress can lay and collect it.
[01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:08.000]  Therefore, you wouldn't need the authority to leave Washington, D.C. as required
[01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:13.000]  if you're tied before Section 72 as the Secretary of the Treasury.
[01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:16.000]  They can't even speak about those provisions.
[01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:19.000]  I'm tagging them with them, branding them with them.
[01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:24.000]  For the second time, there was a civil case in Seattle that concluded last March,
[01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:29.000]  where I clubbed them with it, and there was a derelict decision out of Chief Judge Lasnik in Seattle,
[01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:35.000]  where a guy was sued by the DOJ civilly for promoting these attack shelters.
[01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:39.000]  He was operating a warehouse bank where over the three-year period,
[01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:44.000]  he handled $28 million for clients paying their bills with his company's checks
[01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:48.000]  while they put money on account with him and paid a monthly fee.
[01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:51.000]  These civil cases, they lead to a criminal prosecution.
[01:54:51.000 --> 01:54:54.000]  Thereafter, they get all the evidence with the civil,
[01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:58.000]  and you can't object them to the 5th Amendment because there's no evidence of a criminal investigation yet.
[01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:02.000]  And then they gather all the evidence, and then they indict you with all the evidence.
[01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:05.000]  He's not been indicted. His case was over last March.
[01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:11.000]  Chris in Florida joined my complaint that I filed three years ago in Congress.
[01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:15.000]  David, one moment. We're going to break. We're at the top of the hour.
[01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:18.000]  Okay, please hold that thought. All right.
[01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:21.000]  We've got two more hours to go.
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[01:57:22.000 --> 01:57:26.000]  If you want to be
[01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:30.000]  away from me
[01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:33.000]  I'm like a stepping stone
[01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:35.000]  Watch my eyes
[01:57:35.000 --> 01:57:37.000]  I'm dangerous
[01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:39.000]  Dangerous
[01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:41.000]  I'm like a stepping stone
[01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:43.000]  Walking like I'm
[01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:45.000]  Dangerous
[01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:47.000]  Dangerous
[01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:49.000]  If you want to live
[01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:51.000]  Treats me good
[01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:53.000]  Want to live
[01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:55.000]  If you want to live
[01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:57.000]  You better
[01:57:57.000 --> 01:57:59.000]  Treats me good
[01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:03.000]  I'm like a stepping stone
[01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:05.000]  Watch my eyes
[01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:07.000]  I'm dangerous
[01:58:07.000 --> 01:58:09.000]  I'm dangerous
[01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:11.000]  I'm like a stepping stone
[01:58:11.000 --> 01:58:13.000]  Watch my eyes
[01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:15.000]  I'm dangerous
[01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:17.000]  I'm dangerous
[01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:19.000]  Treats me good
[01:58:19.700 --> 01:58:21.700]  Treats me good
[01:58:21.700 --> 01:58:50.620]  Wednesday, 30,000 Iraqi security forces have been deployed to protect 2 million Shiite
[01:58:50.620 --> 01:58:55.980]  pilgrims traveling to the holy city of Karbala.
[01:58:55.980 --> 01:59:01.180]  Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki called on Arab states to break off ties with Israel
[01:59:01.180 --> 01:59:03.620]  over its attacks on Gaza.
[01:59:03.620 --> 01:59:11.260]  Iraqi insurgent cleric Muqtada al-Sadr urged reprisals against U.S. forces in Iraq to protest
[01:59:11.260 --> 01:59:13.820]  Israel's Gaza offensive.
[01:59:13.820 --> 01:59:19.700]  Sadr urged that Palestinian flags be raised on mosques and other buildings in Iraq and
[01:59:19.700 --> 01:59:23.260]  that all countries shut down Israel's embassies.
[01:59:23.260 --> 01:59:29.380]  Sadr's statements have sparked new fears of violence against U.S. troops after months
[01:59:29.380 --> 01:59:30.740]  of relative calm.
[01:59:30.740 --> 01:59:42.020]  BBC News reports Israel made 60 airstrikes on Gaza Wednesday night after the first daily
[01:59:42.020 --> 01:59:46.180]  truce to allow in humanitarian aid expired.
[01:59:46.180 --> 01:59:52.500]  The Israeli army said targets included police sites, Hamas tunnels, weapons storage facilities,
[01:59:52.500 --> 01:59:55.180]  launching pads and a number of armed gunmen.
[01:59:55.180 --> 02:00:00.180]  In a dramatic development, at least three rockets hit northern Israel from the direction
[02:00:00.180 --> 02:00:01.180]  of Lebanon.
[02:00:01.180 --> 02:00:06.780]  Tel Aviv fired five rockets into Lebanon, claiming it was in retaliation.
[02:00:06.780 --> 02:00:11.260]  Observers say this is a very dangerous moment in Israel's conflict.
[02:00:11.260 --> 02:00:17.140]  These efforts move to Cairo shortly with an Israeli envoy due in the city.
[02:00:17.140 --> 02:00:23.140]  Senior Israeli defense official Amos Gilad will travel to Cairo Thursday to discuss ceasefire
[02:00:23.140 --> 02:00:24.140]  options.
[02:00:24.140 --> 02:00:30.420]  A Hamas delegation is expected in Cairo for parallel technical talks.
[02:00:30.420 --> 02:00:34.740]  Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas is expected in Cairo Friday.
[02:00:34.740 --> 02:00:44.980]  The website Global Research says Israel's invasion of Gaza by Israeli forces was first
[02:00:44.980 --> 02:00:50.180]  formulated by the government of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in 2001.
[02:00:50.180 --> 02:00:54.780]  Haaretz newspaper says the Israeli defense forces were instructed to prepare for the
[02:00:54.780 --> 02:01:01.220]  operation six months ago, even as Israel was beginning to negotiate a ceasefire with Hamas.
[02:01:01.220 --> 02:01:06.420]  Israel broke the truce on the day of the U.S. presidential elections, using this distraction
[02:01:06.420 --> 02:01:10.780]  to break the ceasefire by bombing the Gaza Strip, claiming it was to prevent Hamas from
[02:01:10.780 --> 02:01:13.140]  digging tunnels into Israel.
[02:01:13.140 --> 02:01:19.260]  The next day, Israel imposed a siege on Gaza, cutting off food, fuel, medical supplies and
[02:01:19.260 --> 02:01:42.580]  other necessities in an attempt to
[02:01:42.580 --> 02:02:02.700]  take control of Gaza.
[02:02:02.700 --> 02:02:13.700]  I try to do these sleeping, these are going back in, disturbing me, but I'm relaxing,
[02:02:13.700 --> 02:02:19.700]  they about to get disturbing, I gave them some of the cat chocolate in, eating, how
[02:02:19.700 --> 02:02:21.700]  could that be true?
[02:02:21.700 --> 02:02:26.700]  Now we're trying to back in, they about to come and argue with, tell me how did I
[02:02:26.700 --> 02:02:32.700]  do this thing, tell the neighbor what's happening, six hour, one, two, half a dozen,
[02:02:32.700 --> 02:02:37.700]  eight, six, same thing, neighbor, get your dog out of here, or I'll go with me backyard,
[02:02:37.700 --> 02:02:47.700]  you're disturbing me, but tell the neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of me backyard,
[02:02:47.700 --> 02:02:56.700]  you're disturbing me, but tell the neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of me backyard,
[02:02:56.700 --> 02:03:01.700]  I gave him sponge in, eating, gave him bread in, eating, watch out these outside guests
[02:03:01.700 --> 02:03:07.700]  in, wouldn't stop from backing, passing neighbor, peeping, looking over, peaking,
[02:03:07.700 --> 02:03:13.700]  you're dark in my night, yada, backing, disturbing, when we just start sleeping,
[02:03:13.700 --> 02:03:19.700]  your dark blood is backing, your rules are running, crowing, how they sing, I'm relaxing,
[02:03:19.700 --> 02:03:25.700]  you know that I'm relaxing, with me, you still arguing, tell me how you like it,
[02:03:25.700 --> 02:03:31.700]  how you got these backing, let you know I'm running, but you got back too much, I think,
[02:03:31.700 --> 02:03:37.700]  disturbing neighborhood, people getting angry, that's why I give them kit kat,
[02:03:37.700 --> 02:03:45.700]  and the dog a chew that, now the dog do chewing, now the dog not barking, so neighbor, neighbor,
[02:03:45.700 --> 02:03:57.700]  get your dog out of me yard, neighbor, neighbor, get your dog out of me yard,
[02:03:57.700 --> 02:04:27.700]  neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbors, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor, neighbor neighbor, neighbor, neighbor neighbor, neighbor neighbor, neighbor neighbor, neighbor neighbor, neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor
[02:04:27.700 --> 02:04:31.660]  Now he multitudes, that's not saying nothing
[02:04:31.660 --> 02:04:33.620]  Big sword I will hit him, yes
[02:04:33.620 --> 02:04:35.700]  Then I go to my yard and say
[02:04:35.700 --> 02:04:37.700]  Da ga wa to come in
[02:04:37.700 --> 02:04:39.700]  Lick my finger in the kitchen
[02:04:39.700 --> 02:04:41.460]  I go to me house and sing
[02:04:41.460 --> 02:04:43.460]  When I'm on course sleeping
[02:04:43.460 --> 02:04:45.460]  You da go lagging back in
[02:04:45.460 --> 02:04:47.460]  You go him disturbing
[02:04:47.460 --> 02:04:49.460]  So ne ba, ne ba
[02:04:49.460 --> 02:04:53.460]  See you da go to my yard
[02:04:53.460 --> 02:04:55.460]  Ne ba, what was that?
[02:04:55.460 --> 02:04:57.460]  Ne ba, ne ba
[02:04:57.460 --> 02:05:01.460]  See you da go to my yard
[02:05:01.460 --> 02:05:03.460]  Keep him out, keep him out, right, right
[02:05:03.460 --> 02:05:05.460]  Ne ba, ne ba
[02:05:05.460 --> 02:05:09.460]  See you da go to my yard
[02:05:09.460 --> 02:05:11.460]  Run him out, run him out, run him out, run him out
[02:05:11.460 --> 02:05:13.460]  She should have done the work
[02:05:13.460 --> 02:05:15.460]  Look on the dark, then I follow him
[02:05:15.460 --> 02:05:17.460]  One big sword I will hit him
[02:05:17.460 --> 02:05:19.460]  Now you're cursing, arguing
[02:05:19.460 --> 02:05:21.460]  Six or one thing
[02:05:21.460 --> 02:05:23.460]  Half a dozen adiar
[02:05:23.460 --> 02:05:25.460]  It's all still the same thing
[02:05:25.460 --> 02:05:27.460]  Ne ba, get mad and angry
[02:05:27.460 --> 02:05:29.460]  Want to come argue with me
[02:05:29.460 --> 02:05:31.460]  So you da go back in
[02:05:31.460 --> 02:05:33.460]  Keep you da come back in
[02:05:33.460 --> 02:05:35.460]  Ne ba, who did wash him
[02:05:35.460 --> 02:05:37.460]  Everybody get in, angry
[02:05:37.460 --> 02:05:39.460]  You da go like this
[02:05:39.460 --> 02:05:41.460]  Come in me backyard
[02:05:41.460 --> 02:05:43.460]  I'm doing this trick thing
[02:05:43.460 --> 02:05:45.460]  Dig up me plant them
[02:05:45.460 --> 02:05:47.460]  He root out me plant them
[02:05:47.460 --> 02:05:49.460]  He bite up me culture
[02:05:49.460 --> 02:05:51.460]  Come in the kitchen rasta
[02:05:51.460 --> 02:05:53.460]  I give him pizza, kicha
[02:05:53.460 --> 02:05:55.460]  Don't eat da again, say nothing
[02:05:55.460 --> 02:05:57.460]  Chocolate him, eat him
[02:05:57.460 --> 02:05:59.460]  Sponge is what me give him
[02:05:59.460 --> 02:06:01.460]  Now you da is buying him
[02:06:01.460 --> 02:06:03.460]  Me you want to cross him
[02:06:03.460 --> 02:06:05.460]  Ne ba shoulda listen
[02:06:05.460 --> 02:06:07.460]  Losing, ne ba just keep him
[02:06:07.460 --> 02:06:09.460]  The head of her neighbor
[02:06:09.460 --> 02:06:11.460]  This is the rule of law
[02:06:11.460 --> 02:06:16.460]  Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens on Rule of Law Radio.
[02:06:16.460 --> 02:06:19.460]  We've got a very special guest, David Merlin.
[02:06:19.460 --> 02:06:21.460]  Okay, David, please continue.
[02:06:21.460 --> 02:06:25.460]  Okay, the case in Seattle, as I stated,
[02:06:25.460 --> 02:06:27.460]  was over a warehouse bank
[02:06:27.460 --> 02:06:30.460]  offering people a degree of banking privacy.
[02:06:30.460 --> 02:06:32.460]  How dare he?
[02:06:32.460 --> 02:06:35.460]  And he lost the civil case, of course,
[02:06:35.460 --> 02:06:37.460]  just as I told him he would.
[02:06:37.460 --> 02:06:39.460]  But what I told him to hope to get out of this
[02:06:39.460 --> 02:06:41.460]  is to not be indicted.
[02:06:41.460 --> 02:06:43.460]  He says it would be a slam for the government
[02:06:43.460 --> 02:06:45.460]  to indict him on this.
[02:06:45.460 --> 02:06:47.460]  He's not been indicted.
[02:06:47.460 --> 02:06:49.460]  Then Chris in Florida two years ago,
[02:06:49.460 --> 02:06:53.460]  as a co-complaintant who had filed a jointer
[02:06:53.460 --> 02:06:55.460]  to my three-year-old complaint
[02:06:55.460 --> 02:06:57.460]  with 80 members of the Congress,
[02:06:57.460 --> 02:07:01.460]  he suspected the Criminal Investigations Division
[02:07:01.460 --> 02:07:03.460]  was investigating him.
[02:07:03.460 --> 02:07:05.460]  That's IRS.
[02:07:05.460 --> 02:07:07.460]  So he joined my complaint as a co-complaintant
[02:07:07.460 --> 02:07:10.460]  on that same random you see on the first page
[02:07:10.460 --> 02:07:13.460]  of JurisInformatics.com.
[02:07:13.460 --> 02:07:17.460]  He was then subpoenaed to go before a grand jury
[02:07:17.460 --> 02:07:19.460]  and give handwriting exemplars.
[02:07:19.460 --> 02:07:21.460]  The DOJ was alleging that he was,
[02:07:21.460 --> 02:07:23.460]  along the lines of Pete Hendrickson,
[02:07:23.460 --> 02:07:25.460]  he was offering a service to people
[02:07:25.460 --> 02:07:27.460]  preparing zero tax returns,
[02:07:27.460 --> 02:07:29.460]  and they wanted to indict him.
[02:07:29.460 --> 02:07:31.460]  He presented this to the grand jury.
[02:07:31.460 --> 02:07:33.460]  Here's my affidavit that I joined
[02:07:33.460 --> 02:07:34.460]  when I filed with Congress.
[02:07:34.460 --> 02:07:36.460]  Here's a copy of the complaint,
[02:07:36.460 --> 02:07:39.460]  180 pages all told, 58-page memorandum,
[02:07:39.460 --> 02:07:41.460]  which you see on page one of my site there.
[02:07:41.460 --> 02:07:43.460]  And he's not been indicted.
[02:07:43.460 --> 02:07:47.460]  Twenty-three months ago he was in front of the grand jury,
[02:07:47.460 --> 02:07:49.460]  and he's not been indicted.
[02:07:49.460 --> 02:07:52.460]  So I'm chipping away at what they do
[02:07:52.460 --> 02:07:56.460]  and what they have to have inherent in the system
[02:07:56.460 --> 02:07:58.460]  to get by with what they're doing.
[02:07:58.460 --> 02:08:04.460]  And the Alaska case, probably late September,
[02:08:04.460 --> 02:08:09.460]  this person in Alaska contacted me
[02:08:09.460 --> 02:08:11.460]  about an indictment against her husband,
[02:08:11.460 --> 02:08:14.460]  and I decided to take the case,
[02:08:14.460 --> 02:08:16.460]  what I had developed in the Seattle case,
[02:08:16.460 --> 02:08:19.460]  up to Alaska and assault them with the same thing
[02:08:19.460 --> 02:08:22.460]  and see if they teamed up with the Seattle court
[02:08:22.460 --> 02:08:24.460]  and issued a derelict decision
[02:08:24.460 --> 02:08:26.460]  or if they issued a different decision.
[02:08:26.460 --> 02:08:28.460]  Because if they issued a different decision,
[02:08:28.460 --> 02:08:30.460]  now we have two judges disagreeing
[02:08:30.460 --> 02:08:32.460]  on a fundamental issue of conviction,
[02:08:32.460 --> 02:08:34.460]  and you can't expect the average individual
[02:08:34.460 --> 02:08:36.460]  to know what judges disagree on.
[02:08:36.460 --> 02:08:40.460]  So the Void for Vagina's doctrine would kick in there.
[02:08:40.460 --> 02:08:43.460]  So I've got a great thing cooking in Alaska,
[02:08:43.460 --> 02:08:48.460]  but there's such a strange occurrence in the Alaska case
[02:08:48.460 --> 02:08:49.460]  that I'm exploiting right now.
[02:08:49.460 --> 02:08:52.460]  It's probably killed a 20-count indictment,
[02:08:52.460 --> 02:08:54.460]  and that's a denial of counsel issue.
[02:08:54.460 --> 02:08:59.460]  And you're going to find all of this on JurisInformatics.com free.
[02:08:59.460 --> 02:09:01.460]  Get into the site.
[02:09:01.460 --> 02:09:04.460]  You have the tax code explained,
[02:09:04.460 --> 02:09:08.460]  and that will contain the segment of my 180-page filing,
[02:09:08.460 --> 02:09:11.460]  which is three years old, which remains without a response
[02:09:11.460 --> 02:09:13.460]  from Congress at all.
[02:09:13.460 --> 02:09:15.460]  Three committees and Ron Paul received it.
[02:09:15.460 --> 02:09:20.460]  It took me, I think, $5,200 or $5,900 to get all that in the mail
[02:09:20.460 --> 02:09:23.460]  to 80 members of Congress.
[02:09:23.460 --> 02:09:27.460]  And then you have the Texas sample page,
[02:09:27.460 --> 02:09:31.460]  which is a sample jointer that these people have been filing
[02:09:31.460 --> 02:09:33.460]  behind my complaint.
[02:09:33.460 --> 02:09:35.460]  But you'll see at number seven on that page
[02:09:35.460 --> 02:09:37.460]  that the DOJ has brought charges against somebody
[02:09:37.460 --> 02:09:40.460]  for obstruction of justice because they filed a criminal
[02:09:40.460 --> 02:09:42.460]  complaint against the U.S. attorneys
[02:09:42.460 --> 02:09:46.460]  instead of just proving that these arguments are wrong.
[02:09:46.460 --> 02:09:52.460]  And then you have Florida and Alaska, Alaska 1.
[02:09:52.460 --> 02:09:55.460]  Click on Alaska 1, and there's all the pleadings
[02:09:55.460 --> 02:09:59.460]  that went into Alaska in November and December.
[02:09:59.460 --> 02:10:05.460]  And the DOJ is being clobbered with these issues right now
[02:10:05.460 --> 02:10:08.460]  in Alaska, but there was a denial of counsel
[02:10:08.460 --> 02:10:09.460]  at a certain juncture.
[02:10:09.460 --> 02:10:13.460]  The defendant says, I have motions that I want to file.
[02:10:13.460 --> 02:10:16.460]  And so the defender, the court-appointed counsel,
[02:10:16.460 --> 02:10:18.460]  motioned for a separation from the defendant
[02:10:18.460 --> 02:10:20.460]  so the defendant could file his own motions,
[02:10:20.460 --> 02:10:24.460]  but there was no waiver from the defendant of rights to counsel.
[02:10:24.460 --> 02:10:27.460]  So his counsel was basically attacking him
[02:10:27.460 --> 02:10:29.460]  by asking to separate from him.
[02:10:29.460 --> 02:10:33.460]  And then at the hearing over his counsel's motion,
[02:10:33.460 --> 02:10:36.460]  the judge asked him questions about his rights to counsel
[02:10:36.460 --> 02:10:38.460]  directly while he was not represented
[02:10:38.460 --> 02:10:40.460]  by a different attorney.
[02:10:40.460 --> 02:10:42.460]  That's the denial of counsel in a criminal case
[02:10:42.460 --> 02:10:46.460]  in that boy's jurisdiction, Johnson v. Irvett.
[02:10:46.460 --> 02:10:50.460]  So you'll find at the top of this page the indictment.
[02:10:50.460 --> 02:10:53.460]  And I'm on the Alaska page on JurisInformatics.com.
[02:10:53.460 --> 02:10:56.460]  You'll find the indictment and then the memorandum
[02:10:56.460 --> 02:10:58.460]  that all this is based on and an explanation.
[02:10:58.460 --> 02:11:00.460]  Click on the audio at the top.
[02:11:00.460 --> 02:11:03.460]  It's a nice, easy audio seminar about what you'll see on this page.
[02:11:03.460 --> 02:11:08.460]  But number two is a termination of counsel and motion to dismiss
[02:11:08.460 --> 02:11:11.460]  because counsel motioned to separate from me
[02:11:11.460 --> 02:11:13.460]  and I had to answer questions at the hearing
[02:11:13.460 --> 02:11:15.460]  when it's my counsel's problem.
[02:11:15.460 --> 02:11:18.460]  Motion to dismiss because my counsel doesn't know anything
[02:11:18.460 --> 02:11:20.460]  about the tax code.
[02:11:20.460 --> 02:11:23.460]  Motion to dismiss because you can't find me counsel
[02:11:23.460 --> 02:11:25.460]  that knows anything about the tax code.
[02:11:25.460 --> 02:11:29.460]  And it gets worse and worse and worse.
[02:11:29.460 --> 02:11:31.460]  The further you get down this list,
[02:11:31.460 --> 02:11:34.460]  they have to come back to the top of the stack
[02:11:34.460 --> 02:11:38.460]  and dismiss it based on the separation of counsel motion
[02:11:38.460 --> 02:11:39.460]  from his attorney.
[02:11:39.460 --> 02:11:42.460]  And that proposed order is right up there at the top right of the page.
[02:11:42.460 --> 02:11:44.460]  It says proposed order of dismissal,
[02:11:44.460 --> 02:11:48.460]  a one-page solution to this whole thing.
[02:11:48.460 --> 02:11:50.460]  But when you look at this page,
[02:11:50.460 --> 02:11:54.460]  it essentially answers the question of, Dave,
[02:11:54.460 --> 02:11:58.460]  here's a 20-count indictment for three categories of crimes,
[02:11:58.460 --> 02:12:03.460]  six tax counts, two perjured to the bankruptcy court,
[02:12:03.460 --> 02:12:07.460]  and counts nine through 20 are mail fraud.
[02:12:07.460 --> 02:12:09.460]  What would you do in this case?
[02:12:09.460 --> 02:12:12.460]  Here's what I chose to do.
[02:12:12.460 --> 02:12:16.460]  And on Tuesday they're going to take the motion of counsel.
[02:12:16.460 --> 02:12:18.460]  He's finally removing himself from the case.
[02:12:18.460 --> 02:12:22.460]  The court imposed counsel on the defendant saying,
[02:12:22.460 --> 02:12:23.460]  no, you're still on the case.
[02:12:23.460 --> 02:12:25.460]  You're the counsel of record.
[02:12:25.460 --> 02:12:27.460]  So that everything that was filed in court
[02:12:27.460 --> 02:12:30.460]  was sent to the attorney instead of onto the court record.
[02:12:30.460 --> 02:12:32.460]  So to solve that problem,
[02:12:32.460 --> 02:12:36.460]  that's obviously denial of his rights to due process, and that's a crime.
[02:12:36.460 --> 02:12:42.460]  So his wife filed, as you see there, on December 23rd,
[02:12:42.460 --> 02:12:45.460]  she filed with the chief judge on the Ninth Circuit
[02:12:45.460 --> 02:12:48.460]  and with the trial judge a criminal complaint,
[02:12:48.460 --> 02:12:50.460]  because when you know of a crime, you have to report a crime.
[02:12:50.460 --> 02:12:54.460]  So she sent all of the documents to both of those judges in binders
[02:12:54.460 --> 02:12:57.460]  with a criminal complaint against the public defender
[02:12:57.460 --> 02:13:00.460]  for refusing to put those documents on the record.
[02:13:00.460 --> 02:13:03.460]  And so everyone knows, everyone knows,
[02:13:03.460 --> 02:13:09.460]  and you see in that chronology there, us going back and forth.
[02:13:09.460 --> 02:13:13.460]  And number seven on that list, above the dated entries,
[02:13:13.460 --> 02:13:18.460]  number seven is my briefing of how a borrower of money
[02:13:18.460 --> 02:13:22.460]  in a fractionalized banking system is actually a co-creator of money,
[02:13:22.460 --> 02:13:24.460]  and so he wasn't committing mail fraud
[02:13:24.460 --> 02:13:26.460]  when he sent no derived demands for all his money
[02:13:26.460 --> 02:13:28.460]  back to these banks and credit unions.
[02:13:28.460 --> 02:13:31.460]  So just a wild time being had in this case
[02:13:31.460 --> 02:13:34.460]  over a 20-count indictment right now,
[02:13:34.460 --> 02:13:39.460]  and their only choice is to go to the top of the page where the air is fresh
[02:13:39.460 --> 02:13:42.460]  and dismiss it based on the action of that counsel
[02:13:42.460 --> 02:13:45.460]  trying to separate from the defendant without a waiver.
[02:13:45.460 --> 02:13:47.460]  That's their only choice out of all of this.
[02:13:47.460 --> 02:13:51.460]  You're getting a front-row seat to a case that's happening right now
[02:13:51.460 --> 02:13:53.460]  where I'm unobstructed by an attorney.
[02:13:53.460 --> 02:13:55.460]  This is all going on to the record,
[02:13:55.460 --> 02:13:57.460]  and counsel is finally quitting
[02:13:57.460 --> 02:14:00.460]  because now there's criminal complaints against him on the record.
[02:14:00.460 --> 02:14:03.460]  So now they're going to have to go ahead.
[02:14:03.460 --> 02:14:07.460]  This raises a question from what I've been doing.
[02:14:07.460 --> 02:14:10.460]  Counsel is quitting.
[02:14:10.460 --> 02:14:15.460]  Doesn't counsel have a contract and a duty to act under the contract?
[02:14:15.460 --> 02:14:16.460]  No, no, no.
[02:14:16.460 --> 02:14:20.460]  He's been fired, and the court imposed him on the defendant.
[02:14:20.460 --> 02:14:23.460]  Well, now there's criminal complaints, so there's really no resistance.
[02:14:23.460 --> 02:14:25.460]  He has to get the hell off the case.
[02:14:25.460 --> 02:14:27.460]  Well, I had looked at that,
[02:14:27.460 --> 02:14:31.460]  and I had looked at a different way of going after the prosecutor,
[02:14:31.460 --> 02:14:34.460]  I mean, after the defense counsel.
[02:14:34.460 --> 02:14:37.460]  Robert Fox, which a lot of people are aware of,
[02:14:37.460 --> 02:14:41.460]  he's having some difficulty in Cherokee County.
[02:14:41.460 --> 02:14:48.460]  I have talked him into accepting court-appointed counsel.
[02:14:48.460 --> 02:14:51.460]  And what we plan to do with court-appointed counsel
[02:14:51.460 --> 02:14:58.460]  is give him all of my documents based on my writ of habeas corpus.
[02:14:58.460 --> 02:15:00.460]  It's about two-inch high stack.
[02:15:00.460 --> 02:15:04.460]  Say, here, Bubba, file these, argue them.
[02:15:04.460 --> 02:15:07.460]  And he's going to say, heck, no.
[02:15:07.460 --> 02:15:11.460]  And then we're going to file a bar grievance
[02:15:11.460 --> 02:15:17.460]  on every due process issue he fails to litigate.
[02:15:17.460 --> 02:15:22.460]  And that's going to effectively end his professional career,
[02:15:22.460 --> 02:15:26.460]  because he will not be able to get malpractice insurance,
[02:15:26.460 --> 02:15:29.460]  and no law firm in their right mind will hire him
[02:15:29.460 --> 02:15:32.460]  because they won't be able to get malpractice insurance.
[02:15:32.460 --> 02:15:36.460]  And then he's going to run to the judge and ask to be taken off the case.
[02:15:36.460 --> 02:15:42.460]  And we're going to go to the judge and say, heck, with that, he has a contract.
[02:15:42.460 --> 02:15:51.460]  And Mr. Judge, while I realize the rules of court allow you to remove an attorney for cause,
[02:15:51.460 --> 02:15:56.460]  if you do so in this case, there is no cause other than if he refuses to perform his duty,
[02:15:56.460 --> 02:15:59.460]  you'll be interfering with a private contract.
[02:15:59.460 --> 02:16:03.460]  And that ruling on your part will be a ministerial ruling
[02:16:03.460 --> 02:16:07.460]  for which you have no immunity from civil suit.
[02:16:07.460 --> 02:16:11.460]  And we get to sue you and take your bass boat.
[02:16:11.460 --> 02:16:14.460]  And then if you do take him off the case, that's okay.
[02:16:14.460 --> 02:16:17.460]  Now you have to appoint us another one.
[02:16:17.460 --> 02:16:20.460]  So who don't you like?
[02:16:20.460 --> 02:16:22.460]  Yeah, there's a million ways to go about anything.
[02:16:22.460 --> 02:16:26.460]  But in this case, in this particular case, the defendant is in jail.
[02:16:26.460 --> 02:16:29.460]  There's been a suicide and a murder since he's been in there.
[02:16:29.460 --> 02:16:36.460]  And they're on fire from so many other issues that this is the breath of fresh air,
[02:16:36.460 --> 02:16:39.460]  just what I've given them, because of this.
[02:16:39.460 --> 02:16:43.460]  As you go further and further down this stack, it's a matter of diminishing returns.
[02:16:43.460 --> 02:16:44.460]  You have to stay on the top.
[02:16:44.460 --> 02:16:47.460]  You have to dismiss because counsel moved to separate
[02:16:47.460 --> 02:16:52.460]  because you can't afford to decide the other issues because they affect the status quo.
[02:16:52.460 --> 02:16:55.460]  So when you look at this, it's an orchestrated attack.
[02:16:55.460 --> 02:16:58.460]  And what I'm doing to counsel is simply the pressure release valve.
[02:16:58.460 --> 02:17:00.460]  It's the punch line in all this.
[02:17:00.460 --> 02:17:03.460]  It's not anything that the case is going to spin on.
[02:17:03.460 --> 02:17:06.460]  It's a technicality that's going to erase everything,
[02:17:06.460 --> 02:17:09.460]  and the judges can go on to a different carnage.
[02:17:09.460 --> 02:17:10.460]  It's a release valve only.
[02:17:10.460 --> 02:17:13.460]  So I'm not really keying on it to get counsel in trouble.
[02:17:13.460 --> 02:17:19.460]  I'm putting it in there as a way to get rid of all this and all their troubles at once
[02:17:19.460 --> 02:17:22.460]  so they don't have to get into the stuff you see lower on the list.
[02:17:22.460 --> 02:17:25.460]  So, you know, I could attack counsel in six different ways also.
[02:17:25.460 --> 02:17:32.460]  But from this point on, I would have to urge anybody that qualifies for public counsel to get it.
[02:17:32.460 --> 02:17:36.460]  And that way they have this argument at their disposal to attack counsel,
[02:17:36.460 --> 02:17:38.460]  saying, motion to dismiss for ineffective counsel.
[02:17:38.460 --> 02:17:41.460]  They don't know anything about subtitle A of the tax code.
[02:17:41.460 --> 02:17:47.460]  61A says gross income is all income except as otherwise provided by this subtitle.
[02:17:47.460 --> 02:17:50.460]  I want an attorney that knows all of subtitle A.
[02:17:50.460 --> 02:17:53.460]  Now, look at what the DOJ responded with to that.
[02:17:53.460 --> 02:17:59.460]  November 26, DOJ opposition to termination of counsel, the first paragraph.
[02:17:59.460 --> 02:18:03.460]  They call it an impossible demand.
[02:18:03.460 --> 02:18:08.460]  So now I've got the DOJ on record saying it's impossible to find an attorney that knows tax law.
[02:18:08.460 --> 02:18:10.460]  Why are we here?
[02:18:10.460 --> 02:18:11.460]  Right?
[02:18:11.460 --> 02:18:12.460]  Why are we here?
[02:18:12.460 --> 02:18:13.460]  Precisely.
[02:18:13.460 --> 02:18:15.460]  You can't find me a counsel that knows tax law,
[02:18:15.460 --> 02:18:19.460]  and you indict me and you think that satisfies the Sixth Amendment?
[02:18:19.460 --> 02:18:22.460]  So I've made huge progress in this case.
[02:18:22.460 --> 02:18:25.460]  Did they say more than just it's impossible?
[02:18:25.460 --> 02:18:29.460]  Did they elaborate on why it was impossible?
[02:18:29.460 --> 02:18:32.460]  They said him, this and that, and his impossible demands.
[02:18:32.460 --> 02:18:35.460]  And then they go on to mischaracterize him by lumping him in with people
[02:18:35.460 --> 02:18:41.460]  that pulled stunts to fire counsel when they don't deny he had great reasons to fire his.
[02:18:41.460 --> 02:18:45.460]  Well, how come if he's fired attorneys for good cause
[02:18:45.460 --> 02:18:49.460]  and you don't deny that it was good cause, how come you're slandering him now?
[02:18:49.460 --> 02:18:52.460]  That's a conspiracy to deprive him of rights to counsel.
[02:18:52.460 --> 02:18:57.460]  You're asking for a ferretta hearing for him to be given a certain status
[02:18:57.460 --> 02:19:00.460]  that is less than rights to counsel when he's reserved rights in full,
[02:19:00.460 --> 02:19:05.460]  and yet you admit the grounds for which he fired counsel are valid by not contesting them.
[02:19:05.460 --> 02:19:07.460]  So now that's a conspiracy to deprive him of his rights,
[02:19:07.460 --> 02:19:16.460]  and so in these pleadings you'll see a criminal complaint against those lawyers for debasing him
[02:19:16.460 --> 02:19:23.460]  in that reply when they acknowledge that he had good grounds to fire his attorney.
[02:19:23.460 --> 02:19:29.460]  So I'm keeping it as tight as I can get it on these people with every turn.
[02:19:29.460 --> 02:19:33.460]  And this goes to what we talk about on the show all the time,
[02:19:33.460 --> 02:19:43.460]  is when you take them to task on law, it seems most everything they do makes it worse for them.
[02:19:43.460 --> 02:19:47.460]  But in a tax case, this is the first time they've been confronted in a criminal case
[02:19:47.460 --> 02:19:51.460]  with the fact that the tax code's been solved.
[02:19:51.460 --> 02:19:55.460]  I have proven a lot of protections exist.
[02:19:55.460 --> 02:19:57.460]  So I'm not saying show me the law.
[02:19:57.460 --> 02:20:00.460]  I'm saying here's the law, deny it.
[02:20:00.460 --> 02:20:05.460]  And they're going, you must be sui juris to the freemen with the militia members
[02:20:05.460 --> 02:20:12.460]  on the rings of Saturn or something, and they can't talk about these provisions.
[02:20:12.460 --> 02:20:15.460]  And you're looking right at it.
[02:20:15.460 --> 02:20:20.460]  Okay, this is exactly where we, you know, that's why I wanted David Merlin on,
[02:20:20.460 --> 02:20:29.460]  because he takes the same approach that I tend to take, is hold them to the law that's there.
[02:20:29.460 --> 02:20:36.460]  And your original comments about the IRS is that the IRS code is not a problem.
[02:20:36.460 --> 02:20:39.460]  It's the enforcement that's the problem.
[02:20:39.460 --> 02:20:43.460]  And this is what I've been saying, the IRS is your friend.
[02:20:43.460 --> 02:20:45.460]  The IRS is not a problem.
[02:20:45.460 --> 02:20:51.460]  They just got a few rogue agents out there who aren't following law.
[02:20:51.460 --> 02:20:53.460]  Let's go after the agents.
[02:20:53.460 --> 02:20:55.460]  Is the standard operating procedure the problem?
[02:20:55.460 --> 02:20:56.460]  No, it's not the agents.
[02:20:56.460 --> 02:20:58.460]  It's the standard operating procedure.
[02:20:58.460 --> 02:21:01.460]  I've proven that that procedure doesn't provide for the IRS.
[02:21:01.460 --> 02:21:07.460]  But what the standard operating procedure does is make the agent vulnerable.
[02:21:07.460 --> 02:21:13.460]  So instead of trying to take down the IRS, we take the agents to task.
[02:21:13.460 --> 02:21:15.460]  Just a second.
[02:21:15.460 --> 02:21:18.460]  Of course, I join the agents to the criminal complaint,
[02:21:18.460 --> 02:21:20.460]  but you won't get anywhere unless it's litigation,
[02:21:20.460 --> 02:21:23.460]  and even then you won't get anywhere unless it's criminal litigation
[02:21:23.460 --> 02:21:25.460]  where the burden is higher on the government.
[02:21:25.460 --> 02:21:27.460]  So I'm not after a single agent.
[02:21:27.460 --> 02:21:29.460]  I'm after the system.
[02:21:29.460 --> 02:21:36.460]  And the standard operating procedures are such a contrast to statute that I can prove
[02:21:36.460 --> 02:21:41.460]  and have proven that it's two areas of research.
[02:21:41.460 --> 02:21:46.460]  First, what entirely does the tax code say regarding the individual?
[02:21:46.460 --> 02:21:48.460]  And then you go to regulations and you say,
[02:21:48.460 --> 02:21:52.460]  oh, those protections in the tax code have been destroyed by this regulation, that one.
[02:21:52.460 --> 02:21:56.460]  And on my tax code page, on Jurisinformatics.com,
[02:21:56.460 --> 02:22:00.460]  you'll have my tab 1 through 12, the 180 page are all told.
[02:22:00.460 --> 02:22:02.460]  Look at tab 2.
[02:22:02.460 --> 02:22:08.460]  It's a 33 page racketeering criminal complaint that has a segment, number 3,
[02:22:08.460 --> 02:22:16.460]  where you find paragraph 3.1, 3.2, then you find a list of elements of racketeering and overt acts.
[02:22:16.460 --> 02:22:24.460]  Those are the acts from which the IRS has derived the most authority not based upon statute
[02:22:24.460 --> 02:22:28.460]  as a result from my analysis of the tax code compared to the regulations.
[02:22:28.460 --> 02:22:30.460]  That is what they've done.
[02:22:30.460 --> 02:22:32.460]  So when I say standard operating procedure,
[02:22:32.460 --> 02:22:38.460]  I know where they took their authority from statute that didn't provide it,
[02:22:38.460 --> 02:22:40.460]  and I've shown you precisely where they get it.
[02:22:40.460 --> 02:22:42.460]  This is what changed.
[02:22:42.460 --> 02:22:50.460]  This list of 27 things, I think, maybe 22, this list of 22 things are the biggest changes
[02:22:50.460 --> 02:22:55.460]  that have been made to the statutory scheme called our tax code
[02:22:55.460 --> 02:22:58.460]  through regulation and outright enforcement.
[02:22:58.460 --> 02:23:01.460]  So standard operating procedure I'm well versed in,
[02:23:01.460 --> 02:23:05.460]  and I attack the entire system not by attacking one agent.
[02:23:05.460 --> 02:23:10.460]  Their name will appear in the affidavit of Joinder that somebody filed saying I'm similarly situated,
[02:23:10.460 --> 02:23:14.460]  and I joined Dave's complaint that he filed three years ago, and I'll name the agent,
[02:23:14.460 --> 02:23:17.460]  but what I'm after is due process and to change the system.
[02:23:17.460 --> 02:23:20.460]  I'm not after the agent, and I don't care when they're immune.
[02:23:20.460 --> 02:23:23.460]  It's usually on the defense for somebody else that's in trouble,
[02:23:23.460 --> 02:23:26.460]  so I'm not allowed to think about suing civilly.
[02:23:26.460 --> 02:23:28.460]  I have to get them out of trouble first.
[02:23:28.460 --> 02:23:34.460]  Is it your position that by attacking the system, you'll get the system to change itself?
[02:23:34.460 --> 02:23:39.460]  I look at this list of diminishing returns where if they don't dismiss it for the first one,
[02:23:39.460 --> 02:23:41.460]  the rest of the stuff affects the system.
[02:23:41.460 --> 02:23:44.460]  If they dismiss it because the guy doesn't know anything about tax law,
[02:23:44.460 --> 02:23:45.460]  what about this other case?
[02:23:45.460 --> 02:23:47.460]  Dismiss that one too, right?
[02:23:47.460 --> 02:23:49.460]  So it'll start an avalanche.
[02:23:49.460 --> 02:23:52.460]  I've boxed them into a corner for a defendant that's in jail.
[02:23:52.460 --> 02:23:56.460]  I have to consider him first, so I have to provide that pressure release valve.
[02:23:56.460 --> 02:24:00.460]  That's a rule, so I'll take that as a dismissal,
[02:24:00.460 --> 02:24:05.460]  but I'll change the system with the next one because in Florida there's an indictment
[02:24:05.460 --> 02:24:08.460]  where the guy's going to go straight in without a pressure release valve
[02:24:08.460 --> 02:24:12.460]  and say, motion to dismiss because you say it's impossible to find an attorney
[02:24:12.460 --> 02:24:18.460]  that knows the tax code C exhibit A, the opposition filed in the Alaska case.
[02:24:18.460 --> 02:24:20.460]  Checkmate.
[02:24:20.460 --> 02:24:22.460]  Now I'm affecting the system.
[02:24:22.460 --> 02:24:32.460]  How do you get judges to follow law, to follow these arguments when they're correct?
[02:24:32.460 --> 02:24:35.460]  I thought you'd never ask.
[02:24:35.460 --> 02:24:37.460]  You don't get the judge to follow the law.
[02:24:37.460 --> 02:24:40.460]  You get the second judge to follow the law.
[02:24:40.460 --> 02:24:42.460]  The first one doesn't follow the law.
[02:24:42.460 --> 02:24:44.460]  Well, he stands to lose liberty.
[02:24:44.460 --> 02:24:45.460]  He stands to lose property.
[02:24:45.460 --> 02:24:50.460]  That's a violation of his rights to due process to get his property,
[02:24:50.460 --> 02:24:54.460]  so it's a conspiracy and it's a violation, 241, 242.
[02:24:54.460 --> 02:24:56.460]  I write a criminal complaint.
[02:24:56.460 --> 02:24:59.460]  I serve it on a different judge under 18 U.S.C. 4.
[02:24:59.460 --> 02:25:04.460]  We're talking federal judge, and then I attach that behind an affidavit of prejudice
[02:25:04.460 --> 02:25:06.460]  saying the appearance of fairness is lost.
[02:25:06.460 --> 02:25:09.460]  You might be able to proceed fairly, but you can't proceed with the appearance of fairness,
[02:25:09.460 --> 02:25:11.460]  to which I'm entitled, C exhibit A.
[02:25:11.460 --> 02:25:13.460]  I've asked that you be thrown in prison.
[02:25:13.460 --> 02:25:16.460]  Then they have to remove themselves, and the next judge says,
[02:25:16.460 --> 02:25:18.460]  I don't want to feel like that judge feels.
[02:25:18.460 --> 02:25:21.460]  I don't need a piece of laundry like that on the record with my name on it.
[02:25:21.460 --> 02:25:24.460]  Let's look at your motion again.
[02:25:24.460 --> 02:25:25.460]  Thank you, Your Honor.
[02:25:25.460 --> 02:25:27.460]  That's exactly what I was after.
[02:25:27.460 --> 02:25:32.460]  I work with Tony Davis, and he works primarily in the federal courts,
[02:25:32.460 --> 02:25:40.460]  and what he's finding is a horrendous mess where the judges just simply ignore law.
[02:25:40.460 --> 02:25:46.460]  I have someone who keeps calling me from Arizona who's been in jail for over 200 days
[02:25:46.460 --> 02:25:51.460]  because she didn't produce records she claims she doesn't have,
[02:25:51.460 --> 02:25:56.460]  and it's very frustrating because she keeps telling me about all of these things
[02:25:56.460 --> 02:26:02.460]  that she's tried that haven't worked, and that always gives me a headache because...
[02:26:02.460 --> 02:26:04.460]  Is it under tax law?
[02:26:04.460 --> 02:26:05.460]  Yes.
[02:26:05.460 --> 02:26:06.460]  Federal tax law?
[02:26:06.460 --> 02:26:07.460]  Yes.
[02:26:07.460 --> 02:26:08.460]  Okay.
[02:26:08.460 --> 02:26:10.460]  Now, wait a minute.
[02:26:10.460 --> 02:26:15.460]  You pled this, and it's valid, and the judge just ignored it.
[02:26:15.460 --> 02:26:17.460]  So, okay, well, what did you do to the judge?
[02:26:17.460 --> 02:26:19.460]  Well, we filed this on a document.
[02:26:19.460 --> 02:26:21.460]  I said, now wait a minute.
[02:26:21.460 --> 02:26:25.460]  You're like a lot of these guys out here that keep trying to look for magic
[02:26:25.460 --> 02:26:27.460]  to find something that works.
[02:26:27.460 --> 02:26:32.460]  If the judge violates law relating to his office, why aren't you going after the judge?
[02:26:32.460 --> 02:26:34.460]  Well, she doesn't want to get the judge upset about it.
[02:26:34.460 --> 02:26:38.460]  I've got something for you after the break. You're not going to believe.
[02:26:38.460 --> 02:26:40.460]  Good. Wonderful.
[02:26:40.460 --> 02:26:42.460]  We're going to break. We'll be right back.
[02:26:52.460 --> 02:26:57.460]  Gold prices are at historic highs, and with the recent pullback, this is a great time to buy.
[02:26:57.460 --> 02:27:01.460]  With the value of the dollar, risks of inflation, geopolitical uncertainties,
[02:27:01.460 --> 02:27:05.460]  and instability in rural financial systems, I see gold going up much higher.
[02:27:05.460 --> 02:27:08.460]  Hi, I'm Tim Fry at Roberts & Roberts Brokerage.
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[02:27:53.460 --> 02:27:55.460]  Hello?
[02:27:55.460 --> 02:27:59.460]  Yes, George. How good of you to call.
[02:27:59.460 --> 02:28:04.460]  Yeah, we had dinner with the Cheneys last week.
[02:28:04.460 --> 02:28:10.460]  Mm-hmm. We had a great time just sitting around talking about politics, you know.
[02:28:10.460 --> 02:28:20.460]  And I saw when Mr. Cheney was paying for the tab, I saw a big red stain on his wall.
[02:28:20.460 --> 02:28:27.460]  And I was thinking to myself, heavens, you know, the war must be going splendid.
[02:28:27.460 --> 02:28:34.460]  Mm-hmm. I'm seeing red money.
[02:28:34.460 --> 02:28:42.460]  Red money is here. It's worth its weight in the field. Red money.
[02:28:42.460 --> 02:28:50.460]  Out on a soldier's desk, cause the money's so red, it's red money.
[02:28:50.460 --> 02:28:58.460]  It's all soaked up in blood with taxes and the money's red money.
[02:28:58.460 --> 02:29:05.460]  It used to be so green, green as money that I ever see.
[02:29:05.460 --> 02:29:14.460]  They used to back it up with silver and gold way back in the days of old.
[02:29:14.460 --> 02:29:22.460]  Oh, mommy, oh mommy, please protect us from the bloody comics.
[02:29:22.460 --> 02:29:30.460]  The free republic that I used to know started to look just like the manifesto.
[02:29:30.460 --> 02:29:38.460]  Whoa, look at all that red money.
[02:29:38.460 --> 02:29:46.460]  Red money.
[02:29:46.460 --> 02:29:48.460]  Red money.
[02:29:48.460 --> 02:29:55.460]  At the point of a badass gun, everybody gets some red money.
[02:29:55.460 --> 02:30:04.460]  Red money in the team, cause why do you crop up the fiat red money?
[02:30:04.460 --> 02:30:13.460]  Two billion a day just to keep afloat, red China's got us right by the throat with red money.
[02:30:13.460 --> 02:30:20.460]  The bank gets the gold plus the free ride, funding wars from both sides with red money.
[02:30:20.460 --> 02:30:27.460]  Money used to be so green, green as money that I ever see.
[02:30:27.460 --> 02:30:36.460]  They used to back it up with silver and gold way back in the days of old.
[02:30:36.460 --> 02:30:44.460]  Oh, mommy, oh mommy, please protect us from the bloody comics.
[02:30:44.460 --> 02:30:52.460]  The free republic that I used to know started to look just like the manifesto.
[02:30:52.460 --> 02:31:01.460]  Whoa, look at all that red money.
[02:31:01.460 --> 02:31:09.460]  Red money.
[02:31:09.460 --> 02:31:17.460]  The manifesto bank is a private central bank printing red money.
[02:31:17.460 --> 02:31:19.460]  Red money.
[02:31:19.460 --> 02:31:25.460]  Really got some nerve down at the federal reserve printing red money.
[02:31:25.460 --> 02:31:27.460]  Red money.
[02:31:27.460 --> 02:31:34.460]  The federal fraction reserve, the private bank was really who they served with red money.
[02:31:34.460 --> 02:31:35.460]  Red money.
[02:31:35.460 --> 02:31:39.460]  The banks make up that money for free, then loan it back to us for a fee.
[02:31:39.460 --> 02:31:42.460]  I'm seeing red ink money.
[02:31:42.460 --> 02:31:43.460]  Red money.
[02:31:43.460 --> 02:31:50.460]  Ain't no law creating income tax, just a heap of guns caught behind our backs getting our red money.
[02:31:50.460 --> 02:31:57.460]  All right, we are back to Rule of Law.
[02:31:57.460 --> 02:32:03.460]  Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens here on Rule of Law Radio, our very own network.
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[02:32:10.460 --> 02:32:12.460]  And also I wanted to make an announcement.
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[02:32:48.460 --> 02:32:53.460]  So listeners out there, we want to welcome you to the show, welcome you to the network.
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[02:33:08.460 --> 02:33:12.460]  And in the meantime, David, please continue.
[02:33:12.460 --> 02:33:14.460]  Sure, I have a lot to say about judges.
[02:33:14.460 --> 02:33:18.460]  I have two instances on JurisInformatics.com.
[02:33:18.460 --> 02:33:24.460]  JurisInformatics.com, there's Randy's question was you have a judge that ignores the law.
[02:33:24.460 --> 02:33:25.460]  What do you do?
[02:33:25.460 --> 02:33:30.460]  I want to show you two examples where, I mean, we took it to them.
[02:33:30.460 --> 02:33:34.460]  One's federal court, one's county superior court, criminal docket.
[02:33:34.460 --> 02:33:38.460]  On JurisInformatics.com, I click on the tax code page.
[02:33:38.460 --> 02:33:40.460]  At the top in the left, you see Rico's games.
[02:33:40.460 --> 02:33:42.460]  I click on tax code.
[02:33:42.460 --> 02:33:48.460]  And near the top of the page, I see IRS income taxes, U.S. versus ARIN.
[02:33:48.460 --> 02:33:49.460]  Don't click on that yet.
[02:33:49.460 --> 02:33:54.460]  Right below it, and don't click on this one either, frivolous tax arguments is a link.
[02:33:54.460 --> 02:34:01.460]  None of my arguments are on the IRS's frivolous list published November 30th of 2007,
[02:34:01.460 --> 02:34:05.460]  downloaded this November, just two months ago.
[02:34:05.460 --> 02:34:09.460]  And none of my provisions and none of my arguments are on that list.
[02:34:09.460 --> 02:34:13.460]  Now that U.S. versus ARIN page, what would I do to the judge?
[02:34:13.460 --> 02:34:16.460]  You click on that, a gray page comes up that was maintained by the defendant
[02:34:16.460 --> 02:34:20.460]  as we litigated his civil case in Seattle Federal District Court.
[02:34:20.460 --> 02:34:23.460]  And you see, what would you do to the judge?
[02:34:23.460 --> 02:34:26.460]  Well, in this case, they raided his house, took his computer,
[02:34:26.460 --> 02:34:29.460]  kept him out of his house while they raided and searched his house.
[02:34:29.460 --> 02:34:34.460]  And if they don't have any authority to do that, we have to fill the record with law.
[02:34:34.460 --> 02:34:36.460]  And we have no federal law.
[02:34:36.460 --> 02:34:40.460]  All we have is a regulation that names Americans as subject to the tax code.
[02:34:40.460 --> 02:34:43.460]  So they have to bring in state law, or we have an act.
[02:34:43.460 --> 02:34:47.460]  And the only state law we can find that apply are felony statutes against
[02:34:47.460 --> 02:34:51.460]  residential burglary, computer trespassing, and lawful imprisonment.
[02:34:51.460 --> 02:34:58.460]  And so at the bottom of that page, you see it goes from regular print to bold type,
[02:34:58.460 --> 02:35:01.460]  I co-petitioned with him in Superior Court.
[02:35:01.460 --> 02:35:08.460]  We filed a petition for declaratory judgment that probable cause existed to perform
[02:35:08.460 --> 02:35:13.460]  a citizen's arrest under a particular state statute that authorizes it.
[02:35:13.460 --> 02:35:18.460]  And we sued those U.S. attorneys and two IRS agents in a civil case in state court.
[02:35:18.460 --> 02:35:20.460]  We knew it would be removed to federal court, no big deal.
[02:35:20.460 --> 02:35:26.460]  But in the criminal docket, we filed that petition for a grand jury to be impaneled
[02:35:26.460 --> 02:35:29.460]  based on the criminal complaint you see right underneath it,
[02:35:29.460 --> 02:35:31.460]  felony complaints naming these people.
[02:35:31.460 --> 02:35:34.460]  Later on, the judge wouldn't answer.
[02:35:34.460 --> 02:35:38.460]  There was a motion for curative instruction filed at federal court saying,
[02:35:38.460 --> 02:35:43.460]  you can't produce a federal law, so what do you say you give me?
[02:35:43.460 --> 02:35:46.460]  It was a motion for curative instruction.
[02:35:46.460 --> 02:35:51.460]  Motion for curative instruction, please instruct me as to whether or not to make
[02:35:51.460 --> 02:35:53.460]  a citizen's arrest inside federal courtrooms,
[02:35:53.460 --> 02:35:57.460]  I can bring arms into the courtroom in case the armed bailiff tries to intervene
[02:35:57.460 --> 02:36:02.460]  on the prosecutor's behalf, right up their skirt type of pleading.
[02:36:02.460 --> 02:36:04.460]  And it wouldn't answer that.
[02:36:04.460 --> 02:36:08.460]  And so you see on December 21st in the bold print at the bottom of the page,
[02:36:08.460 --> 02:36:14.460]  December 21st, this is the state court, we joined Chief Judge Robert Lasnik
[02:36:14.460 --> 02:36:19.460]  to the felony complaint under a Washington state law for leading organized crime.
[02:36:19.460 --> 02:36:21.460]  And then you see it's remanded to federal court,
[02:36:21.460 --> 02:36:24.460]  and it's a, you know, a hissy fit back and forth,
[02:36:24.460 --> 02:36:26.460]  and we knew we were going to lose everything.
[02:36:26.460 --> 02:36:27.460]  He was just trying not to be indicted.
[02:36:27.460 --> 02:36:32.460]  But there you see where I went into state court with a felony complaint,
[02:36:32.460 --> 02:36:36.460]  a petition for a declared jury judgment that probable cause existed
[02:36:36.460 --> 02:36:39.460]  to exercise statutory rights against a criminal,
[02:36:39.460 --> 02:36:44.460]  which in Washington is felony arrest with any necessary force.
[02:36:44.460 --> 02:36:45.460]  And that's one instance.
[02:36:45.460 --> 02:36:47.460]  Here's what I'll do to the judge.
[02:36:47.460 --> 02:36:50.460]  And I'm closing that gray page.
[02:36:50.460 --> 02:36:54.460]  I'm back on my tax code page on jurisinformatics.com.
[02:36:54.460 --> 02:36:58.460]  Now on the left-hand side, in the blue, you see it says,
[02:36:58.460 --> 02:37:02.460]  Juris Informatics Applied, underneath the RICO schemes there,
[02:37:02.460 --> 02:37:06.460]  Juris Informatics Applied, A, San Mateo.
[02:37:06.460 --> 02:37:12.460]  This was an instance where August before last, it's January 2009,
[02:37:12.460 --> 02:37:17.460]  August before last, this tattoo parlor owner in San Mateo was the object
[02:37:17.460 --> 02:37:21.460]  of government's affections who wanted him to be run out of town,
[02:37:21.460 --> 02:37:24.460]  and so they trumped up a bunch of charges against him.
[02:37:24.460 --> 02:37:28.460]  And he was not in contempt of court at this second hearing,
[02:37:28.460 --> 02:37:31.460]  and yet he was arrested for contempt of court
[02:37:31.460 --> 02:37:34.460]  and was not given the opportunity to allocute.
[02:37:34.460 --> 02:37:36.460]  And if he's not in contempt of court,
[02:37:36.460 --> 02:37:41.460]  and this judge, Lisa Novak, does not give him the opportunity to allocute,
[02:37:41.460 --> 02:37:43.460]  that's kidnapping.
[02:37:43.460 --> 02:37:46.460]  He had 100 percent rights to his liberty, and she took all of it.
[02:37:46.460 --> 02:37:52.460]  That's aggravated kidnapping.
[02:37:52.460 --> 02:37:53.460]  It doesn't really matter.
[02:37:53.460 --> 02:37:54.460]  It's a California code.
[02:37:54.460 --> 02:37:56.460]  It's a terrible code to begin with.
[02:37:56.460 --> 02:38:02.460]  Anyway, the audio is an interview with somebody that witnessed the hearing
[02:38:02.460 --> 02:38:04.460]  and saw it, he's a court watcher,
[02:38:04.460 --> 02:38:08.460]  and he watched the demeanor in the judge change from the first two hearings
[02:38:08.460 --> 02:38:11.460]  to the third hearing after these complaints were filed.
[02:38:11.460 --> 02:38:13.460]  Now, right underneath the picture of this other judge,
[02:38:13.460 --> 02:38:18.460]  luckily here in Seattle that I don't like, it's not Lisa Novak.
[02:38:18.460 --> 02:38:23.460]  Right underneath that, listen here, it's a two-minute MP3 recording of his
[02:38:23.460 --> 02:38:26.460]  hearing where you can hear the handcuffs going on and everything.
[02:38:26.460 --> 02:38:29.460]  I have letters here from Dr. Stevens and Dr. Smith saying,
[02:38:29.460 --> 02:38:32.460]  you didn't go to see them after I declared you incompetent.
[02:38:32.460 --> 02:38:33.460]  Yes.
[02:38:33.460 --> 02:38:35.460]  Well, he wasn't ordered to see those two doctors.
[02:38:35.460 --> 02:38:37.460]  He was ordered to see two other doctors.
[02:38:37.460 --> 02:38:40.460]  So he goes, yeah, do you have an excuse for not recusing yourself?
[02:38:40.460 --> 02:38:43.460]  She goes, arrest him.
[02:38:43.460 --> 02:38:45.460]  And so he wasn't in contempt.
[02:38:45.460 --> 02:38:46.460]  She arrested him.
[02:38:46.460 --> 02:38:48.460]  So here's, what would you do, Dave?
[02:38:48.460 --> 02:38:50.460]  I said, it's Monday.
[02:38:50.460 --> 02:38:54.460]  Overnight me an audio cassette recording of your hearing.
[02:38:54.460 --> 02:38:58.460]  I got it on a Tuesday afternoon, and Friday afternoon he had these papers in
[02:38:58.460 --> 02:38:59.460]  hand.
[02:38:59.460 --> 02:39:02.460]  It's three eight-hour shifts I spent on this.
[02:39:02.460 --> 02:39:04.460]  And there's two ways to look at this list.
[02:39:04.460 --> 02:39:05.460]  I'm the student.
[02:39:05.460 --> 02:39:07.460]  What do I do first, second, third?
[02:39:07.460 --> 02:39:09.460]  And you scroll down this list.
[02:39:09.460 --> 02:39:11.460]  The other way to look at it is from the bottom.
[02:39:11.460 --> 02:39:12.460]  I'm the judge.
[02:39:12.460 --> 02:39:14.460]  Oh, what is the tattoo parlor owner filed today?
[02:39:14.460 --> 02:39:16.460]  This will be funny.
[02:39:16.460 --> 02:39:20.460]  And she gets to this affidavit of prejudice saying the appearance of
[02:39:20.460 --> 02:39:22.460]  fairness is lost, off the case, please.
[02:39:22.460 --> 02:39:24.460]  Oh, why?
[02:39:24.460 --> 02:39:26.460]  Because I filed criminal complaints, see Exhibit A.
[02:39:26.460 --> 02:39:27.460]  Oh, what's Exhibit A?
[02:39:27.460 --> 02:39:29.460]  That's the complaint with the FBI.
[02:39:29.460 --> 02:39:30.460]  What's its exhibit?
[02:39:30.460 --> 02:39:34.460]  Its exhibit is the state complaint that I filed in Superior Court across town
[02:39:34.460 --> 02:39:36.460]  with a petition to a panel of grand jury.
[02:39:36.460 --> 02:39:37.460]  Don't worry.
[02:39:37.460 --> 02:39:41.460]  It's life with the possibility of parole because I didn't get hurt when you
[02:39:41.460 --> 02:39:42.460]  kidnapped me.
[02:39:42.460 --> 02:39:48.460]  So listen to the audio up at the top of the page.
[02:39:48.460 --> 02:39:53.460]  It's Craig, close buddy of mine now, one of my biggest supporters, and he'll
[02:39:53.460 --> 02:39:59.460]  tell you right in there that this judge was five degrees lower than she was at
[02:39:59.460 --> 02:40:02.460]  the first two hearings because of these complaints.
[02:40:02.460 --> 02:40:04.460]  She quietly recused herself from the case.
[02:40:04.460 --> 02:40:07.460]  They brought in a public defender who the guy didn't even ask for.
[02:40:07.460 --> 02:40:10.460]  Just for the words, criminal complaint for kidnapping weren't uttered onto the
[02:40:10.460 --> 02:40:14.460]  record, and the judge recused herself, and the next motion that went in with
[02:40:14.460 --> 02:40:18.460]  the new judge got him dismissed.
[02:40:18.460 --> 02:40:19.460]  And on the court again.
[02:40:19.460 --> 02:40:20.460]  Excellent.
[02:40:20.460 --> 02:40:21.460]  Wonderful.
[02:40:21.460 --> 02:40:23.460]  Isn't it?
[02:40:23.460 --> 02:40:24.460]  All right.
[02:40:24.460 --> 02:40:25.460]  All right.
[02:40:25.460 --> 02:40:26.460]  Well, listen.
[02:40:26.460 --> 02:40:27.460]  Listen, David.
[02:40:27.460 --> 02:40:28.460]  We're going to break.
[02:40:28.460 --> 02:40:29.460]  We're going to break.
[02:40:29.460 --> 02:40:31.460]  And I would like to take a call when we get back on the other side.
[02:40:31.460 --> 02:40:32.460]  We'll be right back.
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[02:42:07.460 --> 02:42:18.460]  It's all according to the will of the Almighty.
[02:42:18.460 --> 02:42:25.460]  I read his book and he says he cares not for the unsightly.
[02:42:25.460 --> 02:42:34.460]  These warmongers come by that term rightly.
[02:42:34.460 --> 02:42:37.460]  I won't pay for the war with my body.
[02:42:37.460 --> 02:42:41.460]  Ain't gonna pay for the car with my money.
[02:42:41.460 --> 02:42:44.460]  I won't pay for the fun with my body.
[02:42:44.460 --> 02:42:47.460]  Just plans wicked and their logic shoddy.
[02:42:47.460 --> 02:42:51.460]  Ain't gonna pay for the oil with my body.
[02:42:51.460 --> 02:42:54.460]  I won't pay for the boys with my money.
[02:42:54.460 --> 02:42:58.460]  Ain't gonna pay for the kids with my fight.
[02:42:58.460 --> 02:43:02.460]  The whole agenda sounds funny.
[02:43:02.460 --> 02:43:08.460]  I wanna fight in a war of my own.
[02:43:08.460 --> 02:43:15.460]  That one would be less active than a pro.
[02:43:15.460 --> 02:43:22.460]  I wanna pay for a war of my own.
[02:43:22.460 --> 02:43:29.460]  They live in glass houses so I can watch them grow bone.
[02:43:29.460 --> 02:43:32.460]  I wanna fight in a war I can win.
[02:43:32.460 --> 02:43:35.460]  I can never win the one that they got me in.
[02:43:35.460 --> 02:43:39.460]  That one I lose long before it begins.
[02:43:39.460 --> 02:43:42.460]  I wanna pay for a war I can win.
[02:43:42.460 --> 02:43:49.460]  When I'm fighting in my own war.
[02:43:49.460 --> 02:43:56.460]  It's such a peaceful feeling.
[02:43:56.460 --> 02:44:03.460]  When I'm paying for my own war.
[02:44:03.460 --> 02:44:13.460]  I take time for the healing.
[02:44:13.460 --> 02:44:20.460]  It's all according to the will of the Almighty.
[02:44:20.460 --> 02:44:27.460]  I read his book and he says he cares not for the unsightly.
[02:44:27.460 --> 02:44:47.460]  These fear mongers come by that turn right.
[02:44:47.460 --> 02:45:00.460]  War monger, war monger, we don't need you, we're stronger.
[02:45:00.460 --> 02:45:10.460]  Ain't gonna pay, I won't pay for the war with my body.
[02:45:10.460 --> 02:45:17.460]  When I'm on death and send them dead there, all that matters now is the money.
[02:45:17.460 --> 02:45:20.460]  I can sell the world to be back illicitly.
[02:45:20.460 --> 02:45:24.460]  And them start the war and them finish it.
[02:45:24.460 --> 02:45:27.460]  Said spend me money and go join them army.
[02:45:27.460 --> 02:45:30.460]  Don't use me money to go hurt them lady.
[02:45:30.460 --> 02:45:34.460]  Tell them spend me money when the money is in the money.
[02:45:34.460 --> 02:45:37.460]  That's it for me to take care of me family.
[02:45:37.460 --> 02:45:40.460]  Because these wicked guys don't care about me.
[02:45:40.460 --> 02:45:44.460]  All they care about is them army.
[02:45:44.460 --> 02:45:47.460]  War and crime and how they make money.
[02:45:47.460 --> 02:45:50.460]  Don't give a damn about the rest around me.
[02:45:50.460 --> 02:45:54.460]  These wicked men, they say they don't love me.
[02:45:54.460 --> 02:45:57.460]  Don't care a damn about this society.
[02:45:57.460 --> 02:46:00.460]  That's why they want me to join them army.
[02:46:00.460 --> 02:46:04.460]  Because they want just two bullets you see.
[02:46:04.460 --> 02:46:07.460]  Blood all shed and the blood come from me.
[02:46:07.460 --> 02:46:10.460]  Now see them send them family in the army.
[02:46:10.460 --> 02:46:14.460]  Now see them put them family in a navy.
[02:46:14.460 --> 02:46:17.460]  Put them far far far more war daily.
[02:46:17.460 --> 02:46:21.460]  All in a bunker then go hide them body.
[02:46:21.460 --> 02:46:24.460]  But they want me use me money pay for war you see.
[02:46:24.460 --> 02:46:27.460]  Want me use me body pay for war daily.
[02:46:27.460 --> 02:46:31.460]  When the bullets hit me and me dead there in the way.
[02:46:31.460 --> 02:46:34.460]  Then the man in them forget all about me.
[02:46:34.460 --> 02:46:37.460]  Then them tell me bout all his story.
[02:46:37.460 --> 02:46:41.460]  Bout me join the army then me go down in history.
[02:46:41.460 --> 02:46:44.460]  But me want to see the history build around me.
[02:46:44.460 --> 02:47:02.460]  That's why Jerry sing this song properly come again.
[02:47:02.460 --> 02:47:05.460]  Well them wicked men hear them so shady.
[02:47:05.460 --> 02:47:08.460]  That's why they want me pay for them war daily.
[02:47:08.460 --> 02:47:11.460]  They want me use my my my money.
[02:47:11.460 --> 02:47:14.460]  But me don't start no war why me join me.
[02:47:14.460 --> 02:47:18.460]  Me not join them war me say that's not for me.
[02:47:18.460 --> 02:47:21.460]  When me start the fight make sure me can win me.
[02:47:21.460 --> 02:47:24.460]  Inna this your time me say things is funny.
[02:47:24.460 --> 02:47:28.460]  When me done dead them them get the money.
[02:47:28.460 --> 02:47:31.460]  Gas price in the country still a walk and kill we.
[02:47:31.460 --> 02:47:34.460]  So you get fi know them who wicked and nasty.
[02:47:34.460 --> 02:47:38.460]  So you get fi know this man hear them crazy.
[02:47:38.460 --> 02:47:41.460]  Now use the family but them not use me.
[02:47:41.460 --> 02:47:45.460]  Why we fi shed the blood in them army.
[02:47:45.460 --> 02:47:48.460]  Why we fi drown me say in them Navy.
[02:47:48.460 --> 02:47:51.460]  Why we fi fly in them air force daily.
[02:47:51.460 --> 02:47:55.460]  But them not hear nothing all about me.
[02:47:55.460 --> 02:47:58.460]  If you want to use my money fi what you see.
[02:47:58.460 --> 02:48:01.460]  Tell them send me money not go kill no man.
[02:48:01.460 --> 02:48:06.460]  Alright we are back. The Rule of Law on Rule of Law Radio.
[02:48:06.460 --> 02:48:09.460]  Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens with a very special guest.
[02:48:09.460 --> 02:48:12.460]  David Merlin excellent information.
[02:48:12.460 --> 02:48:16.460]  And we are going to go to Eddie in Texas who's been patiently holding.
[02:48:16.460 --> 02:48:19.460]  Hey Eddie thanks for calling. What's on your mind tonight?
[02:48:19.460 --> 02:48:22.460]  You have a question for our guest David Merlin?
[02:48:22.460 --> 02:48:26.460]  Actually yeah he and Randy since this sounds really interesting.
[02:48:26.460 --> 02:48:30.460]  I'm what you would call one of those original right to travel activists.
[02:48:30.460 --> 02:48:34.460]  I'm a guy I went and bought a car a little over a year ago.
[02:48:34.460 --> 02:48:38.460]  Took the license plate, inspection sticker and all that off of it.
[02:48:38.460 --> 02:48:43.460]  And put plates on it that specifically stated it was a private vehicle and so on and so forth.
[02:48:43.460 --> 02:48:53.460]  And here the first part of 2007 the first ticket I ever got in a year of having my car that way was in December of 2006.
[02:48:53.460 --> 02:48:59.460]  And it took them over or almost a year to begin prosecution even on that first set.
[02:48:59.460 --> 02:49:06.460]  And I've actually wound up with three different sets of tickets and one time being actually arrested in Lufkin Texas
[02:49:06.460 --> 02:49:10.460]  which is just the next town over from me. Of course no warrant, no nothing.
[02:49:10.460 --> 02:49:15.460]  They didn't even read me my Miranda rights. They just took me straight from my car straight to jail.
[02:49:15.460 --> 02:49:19.460]  Which as Randy well knows that's the aggravated kidnapping part.
[02:49:19.460 --> 02:49:20.460]  Yes.
[02:49:20.460 --> 02:49:25.460]  But some of the interesting things I wanted to bring up to you guys that I'm helping a friend of mine out with
[02:49:25.460 --> 02:49:32.460]  is we have a justice of the peace here, Brent Woden, that has decided to sign the complaints
[02:49:32.460 --> 02:49:38.460]  place of the complainant as well as the presiding justice in the case.
[02:49:38.460 --> 02:49:43.460]  And of course my friend got railroaded through and convicted.
[02:49:43.460 --> 02:49:49.460]  The county attorney that prosecuted him were going to file conspiracy and completely charges on
[02:49:49.460 --> 02:49:55.460]  because he is very aware that the judge signed the complaint in both places.
[02:49:55.460 --> 02:50:01.460]  They also set my friend up as a Republic of Texas complainant because he was defending himself
[02:50:01.460 --> 02:50:07.460]  and just expounding upon his right to drive without a license.
[02:50:07.460 --> 02:50:09.460]  Let's see, what else did they do?
[02:50:09.460 --> 02:50:13.460]  And then when they convicted him he appealed it to the county court here.
[02:50:13.460 --> 02:50:19.460]  The county court also ignored the fact that the JP signed it in lieu of the complainant.
[02:50:19.460 --> 02:50:20.460]  Okay.
[02:50:20.460 --> 02:50:22.460]  And on top of that, I'm sorry.
[02:50:22.460 --> 02:50:26.460]  Did you raise the issue of subject matter jurisdiction?
[02:50:26.460 --> 02:50:29.460]  Multiple times he raised it and he was ignored.
[02:50:29.460 --> 02:50:35.460]  Did he file a counter complaint in the criminal action?
[02:50:35.460 --> 02:50:42.460]  Originally no, but I helped him file one here in the county court and the judge didn't even read it.
[02:50:42.460 --> 02:50:47.460]  That's another problem we have here is the, he went to county court from the JP court.
[02:50:47.460 --> 02:50:52.460]  Mine is still in municipal court, but I refused to show up on the last,
[02:50:52.460 --> 02:50:57.460]  on the day that they were actually trying to try me because they have yet to ever file an information
[02:50:57.460 --> 02:50:59.460]  to gain jurisdiction.
[02:50:59.460 --> 02:51:00.460]  What?
[02:51:00.460 --> 02:51:08.460]  We just had the Court of Appeals in Russell Mortland's case deny an appeal based on no complaint
[02:51:08.460 --> 02:51:10.460]  in the court record.
[02:51:10.460 --> 02:51:16.460]  And what the court essentially said was it don't make any difference what they do prior to indictment.
[02:51:16.460 --> 02:51:19.460]  After indictment nothing matters.
[02:51:19.460 --> 02:51:25.460]  So I will be filing criminal charges against these three judges who issued the opinion
[02:51:25.460 --> 02:51:34.460]  with the Travis County District Attorney's Office while Russell is filing a motion for rehearing in bank.
[02:51:34.460 --> 02:51:38.460]  So we'll be telling all of the judges, your turn Bubba.
[02:51:38.460 --> 02:51:41.460]  Yeah, well see I was interested in what you said a while ago.
[02:51:41.460 --> 02:51:43.460]  I'm sorry, go ahead.
[02:51:43.460 --> 02:51:45.460]  Yeah, just a second.
[02:51:45.460 --> 02:51:47.460]  Here's what you might do in tandem.
[02:51:47.460 --> 02:51:55.460]  Randy is to file a petition, a civil lawsuit for a declaratory judgment asking the court to declare
[02:51:55.460 --> 02:52:02.460]  that how things went down regarding that particular question is exactly how it's supposed to be in this state.
[02:52:02.460 --> 02:52:09.460]  And you point to one decision that you know is derelict and you ask a superior court judge to put the weight
[02:52:09.460 --> 02:52:12.460]  of the state behind what happened.
[02:52:12.460 --> 02:52:14.460]  That's interesting.
[02:52:14.460 --> 02:52:20.460]  You see, I filed, what Russell did was took my Tom DeLay writ.
[02:52:20.460 --> 02:52:23.460]  You remember when Tom DeLay was taken down?
[02:52:23.460 --> 02:52:24.460]  Yes.
[02:52:24.460 --> 02:52:29.460]  He was taken down by Ron Earl, the District Attorney of Travis County.
[02:52:29.460 --> 02:52:34.460]  But nobody ever filed a criminal charge against Tom DeLay.
[02:52:34.460 --> 02:52:41.460]  So I filed a 25-page writ of habeas corpus in Tom DeLay's behalf.
[02:52:41.460 --> 02:52:49.460]  Well, Dick DeGaron, his attorney, had a fit, called me and told me he didn't authorize me to file that writ.
[02:52:49.460 --> 02:52:51.460]  And I said, well apparently not.
[02:52:51.460 --> 02:52:53.460]  You should have filed it yourself.
[02:52:53.460 --> 02:52:58.460]  It was your duty, but since I'm a citizen, I can file a writ for anybody I want to who didn't need your opinion.
[02:52:58.460 --> 02:53:07.460]  And then I talked to the head of their appellate section for the Travis County District Attorney's Office.
[02:53:07.460 --> 02:53:14.460]  And we had about a 45-minute discussion about the writ.
[02:53:14.460 --> 02:53:17.460]  And he would argue his side and I argued my side.
[02:53:17.460 --> 02:53:21.460]  And finally he said, well, Mr. Carrollton, you have a novel idea there.
[02:53:21.460 --> 02:53:26.460]  And you know, sometimes we do things a certain way and somebody comes along with a novel idea
[02:53:26.460 --> 02:53:29.460]  and we have to change the way we do things.
[02:53:29.460 --> 02:53:32.460]  Yeah, a novel idea, follow the law.
[02:53:32.460 --> 02:53:36.460]  I thought, Bubba, you should not play poker.
[02:53:36.460 --> 02:53:45.460]  So what it does is it says, you know, it starts with the fact that the grand jury in Texas is commanded to investigate
[02:53:45.460 --> 02:53:54.460]  into all criminal accusations that come to their knowledge by way of the prosecuting attorney or any credible person.
[02:53:54.460 --> 02:53:57.460]  It does not say they can investigate into air.
[02:53:57.460 --> 02:54:00.460]  They must investigate into a criminal accusation.
[02:54:00.460 --> 02:54:02.460]  They didn't have one.
[02:54:02.460 --> 02:54:05.460]  Now if a grand jury member had knowledge that a crime has been committed,
[02:54:05.460 --> 02:54:10.460]  he can certainly prepare a criminal accusation and the grand jury can examine into it.
[02:54:10.460 --> 02:54:18.460]  What happened was the district attorney filed, gave the indictment to the grand jury and asked them to approve it.
[02:54:18.460 --> 02:54:24.460]  What the law says is after the grand jury has voted on a criminal accusation,
[02:54:24.460 --> 02:54:28.460]  the foreman shall gather all documents had in the hearing,
[02:54:28.460 --> 02:54:33.460]  forward them to the district attorney and request that he prepare an indictment.
[02:54:33.460 --> 02:54:36.460]  I'm saying, guys, you've got this all backwards.
[02:54:36.460 --> 02:54:42.460]  And a prosecuting attorney, when he's made known in any manner that a public official has violated the law relating to his office,
[02:54:42.460 --> 02:54:45.460]  he shall reduce complaint and information submitted to the grand jury.
[02:54:45.460 --> 02:54:46.460]  That's 2.03.
[02:54:46.460 --> 02:54:51.460]  2.04 tells him when he's presented with a criminal complaint,
[02:54:51.460 --> 02:54:58.460]  he'll reduce the complaint to an information submitted to the court of jurisdiction along with the criminal complaint.
[02:54:58.460 --> 02:55:10.460]  26 something or other says that a information may not be presented until a criminal complaint has been filed with the court,
[02:55:10.460 --> 02:55:20.460]  a very specific statutory provision that forbids the filing of an information without a criminal complaint.
[02:55:20.460 --> 02:55:22.460]  The law is abundantly clear.
[02:55:22.460 --> 02:55:25.460]  And that goes straight to Constitution.
[02:55:25.460 --> 02:55:29.460]  I mean, there has to be a verified criminal affidavit.
[02:55:29.460 --> 02:55:31.460]  You have to have an accuser to be faced with.
[02:55:31.460 --> 02:55:33.460]  You have to have an accuser to be faced with.
[02:55:33.460 --> 02:55:37.460]  Somebody has to swear or take an affirmation.
[02:55:37.460 --> 02:55:40.460]  It can't be hearsay.
[02:55:40.460 --> 02:55:42.460]  All right, listen, listen, we're going to break.
[02:55:42.460 --> 02:55:43.460]  We're going to break.
[02:55:43.460 --> 02:55:44.460]  It's the top of the hour.
[02:55:44.460 --> 02:55:45.460]  We'll be right back.
[02:55:45.460 --> 02:55:47.460]  Eddie, if you'd like to hold on, please hold on.
[02:55:47.460 --> 02:55:48.460]  David, please hold on.
[02:55:48.460 --> 02:55:59.460]  We'll be right back.
[02:55:59.460 --> 02:56:00.460]  OK.
[02:56:00.460 --> 02:56:19.460]  Have a lot.
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[02:57:37.460 --> 02:57:56.460]  Hey, what did I say? I've been watching you.
[02:57:56.460 --> 02:58:01.460]  But I know what I'm about to say. It might seem a little harsh.
[02:58:01.460 --> 02:58:09.460]  This situation can't be solved alone with just a pile of cash. Pile of cash might make the city cozy.
[02:58:09.460 --> 02:58:20.460]  Anything that makes a girl's life rosier. I got to say it. Listen to me.
[02:58:20.460 --> 02:58:30.460]  Don't you mess with my sister. I'm going to be watching you.
[02:58:30.460 --> 02:58:39.460]  Now, I want to make everything perfectly clear, but that's why I'm checking your history and the size of the opaque stuff.
[02:58:39.460 --> 02:58:50.460]  Before you get the hanky-panky and the rubber duck, I want to know what you mean when you say the word love.
[02:58:50.460 --> 02:59:12.460]  Listen, mister. What did I say? Don't you mess with my sister.
[02:59:12.460 --> 02:59:20.460]  I'm going to tell you how it's going to be right now. Strictly and precious, faithful, loving, and don't bow-wow-wow.
[02:59:20.460 --> 02:59:30.460]  All intentions must be headed straight for a sacred vow. If you still don't understand me, I'm going to tell you how.
[02:59:30.460 --> 02:59:46.460]  What did I say? Listen, mister. Don't you mess with my sister. I'm going to be watching you.
[02:59:46.460 --> 03:00:03.460]  All right. Don't mess with my sister. Don't mess with Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens, Rule of Law, Rule of Law Radio, or David Marland either, or Eddie from Texas for that matter.
[03:00:03.460 --> 03:00:11.460]  Okay. So, David, you said that you had some comments for Eddie.
[03:00:11.460 --> 03:00:16.460]  Oh, yes. Did you want another question from Eddie before I get going?
[03:00:16.460 --> 03:00:18.460]  No. Go ahead.
[03:00:18.460 --> 03:00:28.460]  Okay. Good. Eddie, you said about I'm the type of take-your-plates-off type of guy, and I want to show you what I've done with the right to travel.
[03:00:28.460 --> 03:00:38.460]  You're aware of it. I'm aware of it. There's 900 to 1,000 cases out there that say right to travel, but we know that case law is only guidance, whereas statute is force.
[03:00:38.460 --> 03:00:43.460]  And as a statutory purist, I really like statutory arguments.
[03:00:43.460 --> 03:00:44.460]  And that's what I'm using.
[03:00:44.460 --> 03:00:53.460]  In December of 2005, I revisited a traffic brief, and I don't do much in traffic court, but when I write a memorandum, I'm going to write a monument.
[03:00:53.460 --> 03:01:00.460]  And I'm looking at this traffic brief that had victory after victory in traffic court, and I'm going, what are they running from here?
[03:01:00.460 --> 03:01:09.460]  What is so noxious or caustic about this brief that they just can't talk about it? And I'm looking through it.
[03:01:09.460 --> 03:01:24.460]  It contains Kurt Riggins' research back to 1915 through 1921, Sessions laws here in Washington State, forward to the 1961 law that struck me when I read this brief a few times,
[03:01:24.460 --> 03:01:35.460]  and one thing really stood out in this whole brief, and it was this Chapter 1, Section 1X of the Highway Licenses Act, the Sessions law from Washington State legislature in 1961,
[03:01:35.460 --> 03:01:48.460]  which said highway, any way, lane, street, road, boulevard, or other surface, open as a matter of right to public vehicular travel.
[03:01:48.460 --> 03:02:01.460]  And I said, damn, but that doesn't sound artful, because I've read an abundance of Supreme Court cases and legislation, open as a matter of right to public vehicular travel.
[03:02:01.460 --> 03:02:10.460]  I typed it into Google. I got 464,000 hits. It's in the law everywhere across the United States.
[03:02:10.460 --> 03:02:20.460]  You type in the name of your state. I'm not talking about a case. I'm talking about statutes.
[03:02:20.460 --> 03:02:31.460]  So I got 464,000 hits. You type in the name of your state or neighboring counties, neighboring cities, whatever, before, open as a matter of right to public vehicular travel,
[03:02:31.460 --> 03:02:44.460]  and see if you can find provisions in your area. I have a course on how to join the racketeering complaint I filed with the Department of Justice and the Homeland Security Committee over it.
[03:02:44.460 --> 03:02:54.460]  I was so convinced that I found the key to the motor vehicle code that I bought, publicvehiculartravel.com, net, org, info, TV, biz, and U.S.
[03:02:54.460 --> 03:03:03.460]  And on publicvehiculartravel.com, I've got a free curriculum, but you can see the main brunt of it right here on jurysinformatics.com on the motor vehicle page,
[03:03:03.460 --> 03:03:11.460]  where I served it on the Homeland Security Committee because David Reichert was a rookie member, March 9th of 06.
[03:03:11.460 --> 03:03:17.460]  He used to be King County Sheriff here in Seattle, misinforcing the motor vehicle code against public vehicular travelers.
[03:03:17.460 --> 03:03:27.460]  It's a common right, and that's not a state granted privilege, so I know the motor vehicle code, which is applicable only to a state granted privilege, doesn't concern me.
[03:03:27.460 --> 03:03:38.460]  So on the motor vehicle page on jurysinformatics.com, that's racketeering scheme number two there on the left-hand side, motor vehicle code.
[03:03:38.460 --> 03:03:47.460]  Open that page, and you'll see there a link that says this RICO criminal complaint. It's 71 pages.
[03:03:47.460 --> 03:03:54.460]  There's a 16-page RICO complaint, a six-page table of authorities, a 37-page memorandum.
[03:03:54.460 --> 03:04:04.460]  And that is the document I served on the Homeland Security Committee and the DOJ, and they never responded one page.
[03:04:04.460 --> 03:04:10.460]  I named a congressman for a reason, and they won't even respond when he's named as a defendant.
[03:04:10.460 --> 03:04:16.460]  Now, right below that says proof. I sent this to the local cops, and I drive without.
[03:04:16.460 --> 03:04:20.460]  Now we're getting to the plates off type of response I wanted to give you.
[03:04:20.460 --> 03:04:25.460]  Document and audio description here. Close that window when finished.
[03:04:25.460 --> 03:04:36.460]  I'm clicking on the word here, and it brings up a page with an audio command, and it says, not legal advice.
[03:04:36.460 --> 03:04:39.460]  By the way, I didn't hear a disclaimer for me, so I'm going to give one now, Randy.
[03:04:39.460 --> 03:04:45.460]  Anything that sounds like legal advice for me, it's only something somebody else might do if they were similarly situated
[03:04:45.460 --> 03:04:47.460]  and in a land where the law actually mattered.
[03:04:47.460 --> 03:04:53.460]  I prove on a daily basis that it doesn't matter, so nothing you'll ever hear from me is intended as legal advice.
[03:04:53.460 --> 03:04:58.460]  It says right here, not legal advice. I serve this on the local cops.
[03:04:58.460 --> 03:05:05.460]  Open that document. April before last, they put a tag on my windshield saying this car is abandoned.
[03:05:05.460 --> 03:05:08.460]  We're going to tow it within 24 hours if you don't move it.
[03:05:08.460 --> 03:05:13.460]  I called them up. It was a Sunday evening. I actually got a human to talk to. Kudos.
[03:05:13.460 --> 03:05:18.460]  I said thanks for not giving me a machine to talk to. I just got a tag on my windshield.
[03:05:18.460 --> 03:05:23.460]  One of my vile neighbors lied to you and said my car is abandoned. It's not abandoned.
[03:05:23.460 --> 03:05:28.460]  I've moved it one spot, so please tell the cop that left the notice that I've moved it one spot.
[03:05:28.460 --> 03:05:32.460]  I really appreciate it. They said no problem. Happens all the time. See you.
[03:05:32.460 --> 03:05:42.460]  I then wrote that notice you see there, and I attached to that notice my entire 71-page RICO filing and sent it to them.
[03:05:42.460 --> 03:05:48.460]  This notice says, first off, my car is not abandoned. I use it every day.
[03:05:48.460 --> 03:05:51.460]  I park it there when I get back from checking the mail, whatever.
[03:05:51.460 --> 03:05:54.460]  I use it all the time as I have for the several years I've been living here.
[03:05:54.460 --> 03:06:03.460]  Secondly, find attached my racketeering complaint that David Reichert can't even deny, and he's in Congress.
[03:06:03.460 --> 03:06:12.460]  You go on record right now with proof that the common right of public vehicle to travel has been made a privilege granted by the state,
[03:06:12.460 --> 03:06:18.460]  or if you mention the motor vehicle code to me again, I'm going to arrest County Judge Peter Nault, because I don't like him.
[03:06:18.460 --> 03:06:22.460]  He's misinforcing the motor vehicle code, and I have the right under state law to do so.
[03:06:22.460 --> 03:06:31.460]  Hudson v. Michigan, I don't have to knock. Supreme Court docket number 04-1360, decided June 15th of 06.
[03:06:31.460 --> 03:06:37.460]  The statute of limitations on a felony committed by a public servant in Washington is 10 years.
[03:06:37.460 --> 03:06:43.460]  If you mention the motor vehicle code to me again, from the date of his last traffic ticket that he heard in his court,
[03:06:43.460 --> 03:06:47.460]  I've got 10 years to arrest him at the moment of my choosing without a knock.
[03:06:47.460 --> 03:06:53.460]  We all know the mishaps that can occur in a private residence at 3.30 in the morning when you try to make an arrest.
[03:06:53.460 --> 03:06:59.460]  Go on record right now with proof I'm wrong, or you leave me alone about the motor vehicle code.
[03:06:59.460 --> 03:07:05.460]  You see the document right there that has saved me $2,000 over the last two years, because I still drive without.
[03:07:05.460 --> 03:07:13.460]  They know right where I'm at. This is not legal advice. This is what I did to get my sovereignty.
[03:07:13.460 --> 03:07:22.460]  I actually read your brief. Before all this even began, I actually found it on the Internet and read up on it.
[03:07:22.460 --> 03:07:28.460]  I like what you argued. There are several things that I pointed out to them in the code here in Texas.
[03:07:28.460 --> 03:07:37.460]  For instance, the term public travel as a matter of right appears only in one code in all of Texas, and that's the Natural Resources Code.
[03:07:37.460 --> 03:07:45.460]  The term highway uses public vehicle travel in the transportation code all over the place, but it never uses the word right.
[03:07:45.460 --> 03:07:56.460]  But if you went to the law library and you looked up your 1961 laws, 1955, somewhere in there, both of the codes were revised then.
[03:07:56.460 --> 03:08:01.460]  They keep saying there's no such thing in Texas as a driver's license.
[03:08:01.460 --> 03:08:07.460]  Just a second. Hang on. You're way off track. None of that matters.
[03:08:07.460 --> 03:08:15.460]  You go to the law and you do a historical workup on definitions of highway in all the different chapters.
[03:08:15.460 --> 03:08:22.460]  Start in 1950 and look at the sites that I have in my brief going back all the way to 1915.
[03:08:22.460 --> 03:08:28.460]  You might find the same type of thing in your law, and don't be distracted by what they do.
[03:08:28.460 --> 03:08:33.460]  What they do is where I live. A friend of my close friend said, you have this victim mentality. Get over it.
[03:08:33.460 --> 03:08:39.460]  I was hurt. I thought about it. I said, he's right. All I talk about is what they do to me.
[03:08:39.460 --> 03:08:46.460]  Now I don't talk about what they do to me until I find a break, and then I go totally ballistic on them with the system,
[03:08:46.460 --> 03:08:49.460]  and I don't think they have another thought about what they do to me.
[03:08:49.460 --> 03:08:53.460]  Don't get distracted. Public vehicular travel is the key.
[03:08:53.460 --> 03:08:59.460]  You put it in a jointer, and you join this RICO complaint. Course number five is how to do that.
[03:08:59.460 --> 03:09:05.460]  You join it, and you name them as similarly situated defendants, just like these guys that I've named,
[03:09:05.460 --> 03:09:09.460]  before you even appear on the ticket, so you've already joined them to a federal complaint.
[03:09:09.460 --> 03:09:14.460]  How do you like me now, Your Honor? I'm here to plead not guilty. Motion to dismiss.
[03:09:14.460 --> 03:09:18.460]  You've made an entrance that rattles handcuffs right at them.
[03:09:18.460 --> 03:09:22.460]  That's the approach. There's a motion to dismiss in that course and everything,
[03:09:22.460 --> 03:09:25.460]  and the rest of the motor vehicle code doesn't even distract me.
[03:09:25.460 --> 03:09:27.460]  It's about whether or not they should be in jail.
[03:09:27.460 --> 03:09:33.460]  You go straight from your criminal complaint to Texas Code 9.20 to 9.30,
[03:09:33.460 --> 03:09:37.460]  and you say, don't make me pull a Joe Horn on you, officer.
[03:09:37.460 --> 03:09:42.460]  Stay away from me unless you prove I don't have this right.
[03:09:42.460 --> 03:09:49.460]  All it is is a distraction. I've just given you a new footing to preempt everything else you were into
[03:09:49.460 --> 03:09:56.460]  about the document not being signed correctly or the person that signed it wasn't the right one to sign it.
[03:09:56.460 --> 03:10:01.460]  It's a bunch of splitting hairs when you consider I've got you with kidnapping right here, officer,
[03:10:01.460 --> 03:10:03.460]  if you pull me over again.
[03:10:03.460 --> 03:10:08.460]  If you can't prove anything else, I'm going to act on my rights to dismiss myself.
[03:10:08.460 --> 03:10:17.460]  In New Mexico, you've got 30-2-7, justifiable homicide or, quote, any unlawful act, end quote.
[03:10:17.460 --> 03:10:22.460]  So in Mexico, if you pull me over, officer, I can't guarantee you'll be breathing,
[03:10:22.460 --> 03:10:26.460]  and so the rest of it is just a trivial distraction to me.
[03:10:26.460 --> 03:10:32.460]  You step inside their footing, and you have them moving backwards.
[03:10:32.460 --> 03:10:35.460]  I need to be short with you.
[03:10:35.460 --> 03:10:40.460]  But there's a time you can grab it by the horns and push it straight backwards.
[03:10:40.460 --> 03:10:44.460]  Well, see, just to show you what we've got here.
[03:10:44.460 --> 03:10:48.460]  Yeah, the reason I liked your comment about what you were doing to the judges is our municipal court judge here
[03:10:48.460 --> 03:10:50.460]  obviously doesn't have a clue.
[03:10:50.460 --> 03:10:56.460]  I submitted a brief to dismiss to her based upon conflict of interest and all the other things involved,
[03:10:56.460 --> 03:11:01.460]  and she said, I've thoroughly read your complaint, and it's hereby denied.
[03:11:01.460 --> 03:11:05.460]  Well, I know she didn't read it because it stipulated that you don't even have a corpus delecti
[03:11:05.460 --> 03:11:07.460]  to charge me with a crime here.
[03:11:07.460 --> 03:11:10.460]  She promptly turns to the prosecutor and says, what is a corpus delecti?
[03:11:10.460 --> 03:11:14.460]  Well, the first 14 pages of my motion talks about nothing else.
[03:11:14.460 --> 03:11:18.460]  And she said she read it, but she doesn't know what it is.
[03:11:18.460 --> 03:11:24.460]  So I'd like to take this opportunity to compliment you on your bad attitude.
[03:11:24.460 --> 03:11:26.460]  Exactly.
[03:11:26.460 --> 03:11:34.460]  Did you file official oppression by malfeasance in office by the judge?
[03:11:34.460 --> 03:11:41.460]  Actually, the official oppression, I am doing abuse of office.
[03:11:41.460 --> 03:11:45.460]  So abuse of office, that's 3902.
[03:11:45.460 --> 03:11:47.460]  This goes to 3903.
[03:11:47.460 --> 03:11:49.460]  Yeah, 3903 is fine.
[03:11:49.460 --> 03:11:53.460]  I've filed affidavits of injury under both and criminal complaints for both.
[03:11:53.460 --> 03:11:57.460]  Do you have the citation close?
[03:11:57.460 --> 03:11:59.460]  Yeah.
[03:11:59.460 --> 03:12:03.460]  What does it say about when you're supposed to appear?
[03:12:03.460 --> 03:12:05.460]  Oh, that's what I was saying before.
[03:12:05.460 --> 03:12:07.460]  I already made my original appearance.
[03:12:07.460 --> 03:12:08.460]  I've never even got to plead.
[03:12:08.460 --> 03:12:09.460]  No, no, no, wait.
[03:12:09.460 --> 03:12:12.460]  What does the citation say?
[03:12:12.460 --> 03:12:17.460]  The citation had me appear way back in January.
[03:12:17.460 --> 03:12:23.460]  Did it have you appear on a date specific, at least 10 days after the date of arrest,
[03:12:23.460 --> 03:12:28.460]  and a date to appear before a magistrate?
[03:12:28.460 --> 03:12:32.460]  Yeah, the first three tickets I got were here in Nacogdoches.
[03:12:32.460 --> 03:12:33.460]  They did not arrest me.
[03:12:33.460 --> 03:12:34.460]  They just wrote me the ticket.
[03:12:34.460 --> 03:12:37.460]  Yeah, what did the ticket say?
[03:12:37.460 --> 03:12:41.460]  Well, all of those in Nacogdoches were at least 10 days after notice to appear,
[03:12:41.460 --> 03:12:43.460]  but they didn't even have me.
[03:12:43.460 --> 03:12:51.460]  Did it tell you to appear on or before, or did it tell you to appear on a certain date?
[03:12:51.460 --> 03:12:53.460]  It says on or before a particular date.
[03:12:53.460 --> 03:12:55.460]  Okay, here's the deal.
[03:12:55.460 --> 03:13:01.460]  543.006, Texas Transportation Code.
[03:13:01.460 --> 03:13:07.460]  005 authorizes the police officer to release you after arrest, and it does say arrest.
[03:13:07.460 --> 03:13:11.460]  If you sign the citation, 006 says,
[03:13:11.460 --> 03:13:16.460]  the citation shall state a date to appear at least 10 days after the date of arrest.
[03:13:16.460 --> 03:13:22.460]  Paragraph B, the citation shall state a date to appear before a magistrate.
[03:13:22.460 --> 03:13:25.460]  008 says if an officer violates a provision of this code,
[03:13:25.460 --> 03:13:28.460]  he is guilty of misconduct and subject to removal from office.
[03:13:28.460 --> 03:13:29.460]  We'll get to this after the break.
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[03:19:05.460 --> 03:19:09.460]  The rule of law on rule of law radio.
[03:19:09.460 --> 03:19:12.460]  Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens.
[03:19:12.460 --> 03:19:15.460]  We are speaking with our very special guest, David Merlin.
[03:19:15.460 --> 03:19:20.460]  Okay, I generally don't do traffic.
[03:19:20.460 --> 03:19:22.460]  I have a different agenda at this point.
[03:19:22.460 --> 03:19:24.460]  I'll get to traffic eventually.
[03:19:24.460 --> 03:19:28.460]  But people have been asking me about it, so I picked up the code and looked through it,
[03:19:28.460 --> 03:19:35.460]  and this is the first thing I come across, is a policeman is allowed to not arrest you.
[03:19:35.460 --> 03:19:38.460]  After he arrests you, he can release you if you sign the ticket.
[03:19:38.460 --> 03:19:45.460]  Well, the statute allows you to do that, states you must, the citation must state a date to appear
[03:19:45.460 --> 03:19:47.460]  at least 10 days after the date of arrest.
[03:19:47.460 --> 03:19:55.460]  The reason it says that is 27.11 Code of Criminal Procedure says that after an arrest,
[03:19:55.460 --> 03:19:59.460]  you have at least 10 days in which to file motions in your behalf.
[03:19:59.460 --> 03:20:02.460]  So the citation has to give you those 10 days.
[03:20:02.460 --> 03:20:06.460]  And it goes on to say it must state a date and time to appear before a magistrate,
[03:20:06.460 --> 03:20:11.460]  because the policeman arrested you and he's commanded to take you directly to the nearest magistrate.
[03:20:11.460 --> 03:20:13.460]  Well, they say, well, you don't have to do that.
[03:20:13.460 --> 03:20:17.460]  You can let the guy promise to appear before a magistrate himself.
[03:20:17.460 --> 03:20:21.460]  So they'll give you a date certain, but the citation says on or before.
[03:20:21.460 --> 03:20:27.460]  So I could go in that day, according to the contract I just signed with this police officer.
[03:20:27.460 --> 03:20:30.460]  Well, that violates the code.
[03:20:30.460 --> 03:20:37.460]  5008, 543-008, I've never seen this in the text of code before.
[03:20:37.460 --> 03:20:45.460]  It says, if an officer violates a provision of 5005 through 5007.
[03:20:45.460 --> 03:20:47.460]  It's official misconduct.
[03:20:47.460 --> 03:20:51.460]  He is guilty of a mis-official misconduct subject removed from office.
[03:20:51.460 --> 03:20:53.460]  So I got three tickets.
[03:20:53.460 --> 03:20:57.460]  The cop stopped me from an inspection sticker being out.
[03:20:57.460 --> 03:21:00.460]  It went out the day before and I got five days' grace.
[03:21:00.460 --> 03:21:06.460]  He saw that my, he asked me for proof of insurance and my proof of insurance I gave him was expired.
[03:21:06.460 --> 03:21:08.460]  So he wrote me for that.
[03:21:08.460 --> 03:21:12.460]  And my license registration was expired.
[03:21:12.460 --> 03:21:14.460]  Well, I had a new one, but I didn't get it on the window.
[03:21:14.460 --> 03:21:16.460]  So he wrote me for that.
[03:21:16.460 --> 03:21:22.460]  I had insurance, I had valid registration, so I beat all three of them.
[03:21:22.460 --> 03:21:30.460]  I went down to the court on the day that the citation ordered me to appear before a magistrate.
[03:21:30.460 --> 03:21:35.460]  It actually said honor before, but I didn't have time to get there early, so I went on the exact day.
[03:21:35.460 --> 03:21:42.460]  And I went before this municipal judge and he thought he was a judge, but he wasn't.
[03:21:42.460 --> 03:21:47.460]  He was a magistrate because that's what I was commanded to appear before.
[03:21:47.460 --> 03:21:53.460]  And I handed him three criminal charges against the police officer.
[03:21:53.460 --> 03:21:59.460]  And as you might guess, he was not pleased and insisted that he could not take these.
[03:21:59.460 --> 03:22:01.460]  Most certainly you can, Your Honor.
[03:22:01.460 --> 03:22:03.460]  He said, well, Mr. Curtin, you need to file those with the clerk.
[03:22:03.460 --> 03:22:10.460]  I said, well, you know, the clerk will take a civil filing from me, but they're real reluctant to take a criminal filing.
[03:22:10.460 --> 03:22:17.460]  Normally they get those from some magistrate under 17.30 code of criminal procedure.
[03:22:17.460 --> 03:22:21.460]  And he said, well, Mr. Curtin, I'm the municipal judge and I can't take this.
[03:22:21.460 --> 03:22:22.460]  That's with all due respect, Your Honor.
[03:22:22.460 --> 03:22:24.460]  You're not the municipal judge at this point.
[03:22:24.460 --> 03:22:26.460]  Right now you are a magistrate.
[03:22:26.460 --> 03:22:32.460]  I'm invoking your duty as a magistrate, and that's a duty which you may not choose yourself.
[03:22:32.460 --> 03:22:33.460]  You sit right there.
[03:22:33.460 --> 03:22:38.460]  So I thought, well, I'm going to jail, ask for a city marshal, call up another guy,
[03:22:38.460 --> 03:22:40.460]  and got through with him and see a marshal come in.
[03:22:40.460 --> 03:22:42.460]  He calls me back up.
[03:22:42.460 --> 03:22:44.460]  Mr. Curtin, I can't take these complaints.
[03:22:44.460 --> 03:22:46.460]  You'll have to give them to the clerk.
[03:22:46.460 --> 03:22:48.460]  I said, well, it's your call, Judge.
[03:22:48.460 --> 03:22:49.460]  And I turned to the marshal.
[03:22:49.460 --> 03:22:51.460]  Then I asked him, I said, well, I got these three tickets.
[03:22:51.460 --> 03:22:53.460]  I need a court date.
[03:22:53.460 --> 03:22:55.460]  He didn't ask me for a plea.
[03:22:55.460 --> 03:22:58.460]  He said, well, and I told him I wanted a jury trial.
[03:22:58.460 --> 03:23:02.460]  So I got the court dates and told the marshal, you, I need you.
[03:23:02.460 --> 03:23:04.460]  Step outside or get me another marshal.
[03:23:04.460 --> 03:23:07.460]  He stepped outside and he said, what can I do for you?
[03:23:07.460 --> 03:23:09.460]  I'm going to arrest that judge.
[03:23:09.460 --> 03:23:10.460]  Well, I can arrest a judge.
[03:23:10.460 --> 03:23:11.460]  I'm sure you can.
[03:23:11.460 --> 03:23:15.460]  Just go in there and throw the cuffs on him and drag his butt off to jail.
[03:23:15.460 --> 03:23:17.460]  That was a hoot.
[03:23:17.460 --> 03:23:19.460]  And now I have charges filed against him.
[03:23:19.460 --> 03:23:22.460]  And there's more.
[03:23:22.460 --> 03:23:24.460]  It goes downhill from there every time you do that.
[03:23:24.460 --> 03:23:27.460]  But this is one approach.
[03:23:27.460 --> 03:23:31.460]  Yeah, it's interesting what this judge has attempted to do.
[03:23:31.460 --> 03:23:36.460]  Of course, according to the section of the Code of Criminal Procedure
[03:23:36.460 --> 03:23:40.460]  where they are required to file an information assessment for any misdemeanor
[03:23:40.460 --> 03:23:42.460]  where there is a criminal district court,
[03:23:42.460 --> 03:23:47.460]  they are required by law to file an information in the case of that misdemeanor.
[03:23:47.460 --> 03:23:52.460]  No, not in the case of a traffic.
[03:23:52.460 --> 03:24:02.460]  Traffic has a special statute that allows the court to prosecute based on the citation.
[03:24:02.460 --> 03:24:04.460]  Well, that's a quote.
[03:24:04.460 --> 03:24:05.460]  What section is that?
[03:24:05.460 --> 03:24:09.460]  It's in the transportation code.
[03:24:09.460 --> 03:24:16.460]  It's a special statute, so it has to be given special treatment.
[03:24:16.460 --> 03:24:18.460]  I'll see if I can find it.
[03:24:18.460 --> 03:24:20.460]  Yeah, I've had that argument before.
[03:24:20.460 --> 03:24:23.460]  You won't win that one.
[03:24:23.460 --> 03:24:30.460]  That's so that the prosecutor, that's so that you can just get a ticket and pay it
[03:24:30.460 --> 03:24:33.460]  and the prosecutor don't have to waste any time with you.
[03:24:33.460 --> 03:24:38.460]  It's all about dollar flow, but there is a statute that allows them to do that.
[03:24:38.460 --> 03:24:45.460]  Okay, is there a special statute that lets them go attorney shopping outside of your city?
[03:24:45.460 --> 03:24:48.460]  If it's a municipality, yeah.
[03:24:48.460 --> 03:24:52.460]  They can get an attorney for anywhere they want it.
[03:24:52.460 --> 03:24:56.460]  It's not like they don't have to use the county attorney.
[03:24:56.460 --> 03:24:57.460]  They hire an attorney.
[03:24:57.460 --> 03:25:00.460]  They can hire one for anywhere they want it to.
[03:25:00.460 --> 03:25:05.460]  But see, the Code of Criminal Procedure says that the city attorney versus the district attorney
[03:25:05.460 --> 03:25:09.460]  or the county attorney has to prosecute in municipal court.
[03:25:09.460 --> 03:25:13.460]  But that same section also stipulates that it's an attorney for the state,
[03:25:13.460 --> 03:25:20.460]  which goes back and defines attorney for the state as a district attorney or a county attorney.
[03:25:20.460 --> 03:25:25.460]  That's somewhere they're authorized to do that.
[03:25:25.460 --> 03:25:26.460]  I don't remember where it is.
[03:25:26.460 --> 03:25:31.460]  It's probably in Chapter 45 Code of Criminal Procedure, which defines...
[03:25:31.460 --> 03:25:33.460]  That's where it says city attorney.
[03:25:33.460 --> 03:25:39.460]  It's in 4521, I believe, but that says city attorney.
[03:25:39.460 --> 03:25:44.460]  Doesn't it authorize the city attorney to prosecute in the name of the state?
[03:25:44.460 --> 03:25:45.460]  Correct.
[03:25:45.460 --> 03:25:46.460]  Yeah.
[03:25:46.460 --> 03:25:51.460]  But now the question I've got is does that not violate equal protection of the law?
[03:25:51.460 --> 03:25:57.460]  Because in one area you've got a corporation basically using their private attorney
[03:25:57.460 --> 03:26:00.460]  to prosecute in the name of the state while everybody else has the benefit
[03:26:00.460 --> 03:26:05.460]  of going up against an elected official versus the county and district attorney
[03:26:05.460 --> 03:26:07.460]  in any other criminal case.
[03:26:07.460 --> 03:26:10.460]  I don't know how I would get there.
[03:26:10.460 --> 03:26:17.460]  I don't know how I would claim a harm in that because of that.
[03:26:17.460 --> 03:26:21.460]  The other factor is that of course our state constitution and the United States
[03:26:21.460 --> 03:26:25.460]  constitution both say that in all criminal cases you should have the right to counsel,
[03:26:25.460 --> 03:26:28.460]  which they have denied us in these kinds of cases.
[03:26:28.460 --> 03:26:30.460]  Yes.
[03:26:30.460 --> 03:26:35.460]  Then on top of that they also say that the Texas constitution specifies that in all
[03:26:35.460 --> 03:26:39.460]  criminal cases that indictment or an information must be filed
[03:26:39.460 --> 03:26:42.460]  and that's what gives jurisdiction to the court.
[03:26:42.460 --> 03:26:49.460]  Actually it says, if I remember it right, that all criminal accusations shall be
[03:26:49.460 --> 03:26:54.460]  prosecuted by indictment, not indictment or information.
[03:26:54.460 --> 03:26:57.460]  The constitution says indictment.
[03:26:57.460 --> 03:27:00.460]  Right, the federal constitution does.
[03:27:00.460 --> 03:27:04.460]  No, the state, Texas state constitution does.
[03:27:04.460 --> 03:27:05.460]  Okay.
[03:27:05.460 --> 03:27:10.460]  Someone showed that to me once and asked me, well, how do they manage to get a
[03:27:10.460 --> 03:27:15.460]  statute that allows them to prosecute with the information?
[03:27:15.460 --> 03:27:21.460]  I said that is a good question, one that I have not had time to brief out yet,
[03:27:21.460 --> 03:27:25.460]  but it's one of the things I certainly want to get to.
[03:27:25.460 --> 03:27:34.460]  You guys, something I've seen over and over and over again is that things in
[03:27:34.460 --> 03:27:41.460]  your discussion, things of that particular gravity matter less and less
[03:27:41.460 --> 03:27:45.460]  and less when you can prove that the whole traffic enforcement thing is a
[03:27:45.460 --> 03:27:50.460]  racketeering scheme on paper in a way that they can't refute.
[03:27:50.460 --> 03:27:57.460]  That's in the form of joining the criminal complaint I filed in March 9th of
[03:27:57.460 --> 03:28:01.460]  06 instead of writing your own where you can write to travel and joining your
[03:28:01.460 --> 03:28:05.460]  local actors as similarly situated defendants to it.
[03:28:05.460 --> 03:28:09.460]  They've got a lot more to worry about than whether or not they got the
[03:28:09.460 --> 03:28:12.460]  indictment filed on the right day or all these other hairs that you're
[03:28:12.460 --> 03:28:13.460]  splitting.
[03:28:13.460 --> 03:28:17.460]  It's a matter of I've exposed that you're depriving me of a right to get my
[03:28:17.460 --> 03:28:20.460]  money and you're doing it to everybody in this county.
[03:28:20.460 --> 03:28:25.460]  It's a lot higher temperature than you'll get by simply pointing out the
[03:28:25.460 --> 03:28:28.460]  things that you're discussing right now.
[03:28:28.460 --> 03:28:31.460]  I agree.
[03:28:31.460 --> 03:28:36.460]  Once you have that footing of somebody that knows this and has asserted this
[03:28:36.460 --> 03:28:39.460]  right and complained about it, you're a different citizen to them than
[03:28:39.460 --> 03:28:42.460]  somebody that has to worry about the minutiae as you are.
[03:28:42.460 --> 03:28:44.460]  I agree with that.
[03:28:44.460 --> 03:28:50.460]  However, it's inappropriate to put all your eggs in that single basket when
[03:28:50.460 --> 03:28:55.460]  the courts as a matter of course ignore them out of hand.
[03:28:55.460 --> 03:28:57.460]  I didn't say put it all in one basket.
[03:28:57.460 --> 03:28:59.460]  I included it in my attack.
[03:28:59.460 --> 03:29:03.460]  It's the first and most important thing because it proves a lack of
[03:29:03.460 --> 03:29:04.460]  impersonal jurisdiction.
[03:29:04.460 --> 03:29:06.460]  It's the first thing I do.
[03:29:06.460 --> 03:29:09.460]  Then whatever they do after that, I'm going to attack them.
[03:29:09.460 --> 03:29:12.460]  I'm not just going to sit there and let them break the law against me.
[03:29:12.460 --> 03:29:13.460]  That was all I was going to say.
[03:29:13.460 --> 03:29:18.460]  I agree with you that we need to get our focus to the most important issues.
[03:29:18.460 --> 03:29:23.460]  That's primarily why I've never went after traffic because the thing that's
[03:29:23.460 --> 03:29:27.460]  more important is the courts that don't follow law anyway.
[03:29:27.460 --> 03:29:30.460]  It really doesn't matter what argument you bring before the court.
[03:29:30.460 --> 03:29:33.460]  You bring this argument before the court in Texas,
[03:29:33.460 --> 03:29:37.460]  and the judge is just going to ignore it.
[03:29:37.460 --> 03:29:41.460]  When there's something in front of the court that they can't deny,
[03:29:41.460 --> 03:29:43.460]  it proves they're a racketeering scheme,
[03:29:43.460 --> 03:29:46.460]  then you're somebody they don't even want to talk to.
[03:29:46.460 --> 03:29:49.460]  That's a piece of sovereignty.
[03:29:49.460 --> 03:29:52.460]  I agree with you.
[03:29:52.460 --> 03:29:58.460]  I would include this just for the fact that it tells them that I carry their
[03:29:58.460 --> 03:30:00.460]  dirty laundry with me everywhere I go,
[03:30:00.460 --> 03:30:03.460]  and if they talk to me, they're going to have a face full of it.
[03:30:03.460 --> 03:30:11.460]  I've got a number of briefs on right to travel, and I actually have one from Texas.
[03:30:11.460 --> 03:30:17.460]  How well does this particular brief, it's written in Washington state law?
[03:30:17.460 --> 03:30:20.460]  Well, it's not just Washington state law.
[03:30:20.460 --> 03:30:25.460]  I'm based in Washington, but I took statutes and ordinances from across the
[03:30:25.460 --> 03:30:30.460]  United States to make a point in a way that people could join it and not have
[03:30:30.460 --> 03:30:33.460]  to write another brief, just get provisions from their own state.
[03:30:33.460 --> 03:30:35.460]  See, I've got the same right here.
[03:30:35.460 --> 03:30:39.460]  By the way, Texas, 114.001.
[03:30:39.460 --> 03:30:44.460]  114.001 is the only provision I've found from Texas.
[03:30:44.460 --> 03:30:47.460]  That's the natural resource.
[03:30:47.460 --> 03:30:54.460]  114.001, definition number five.
[03:30:54.460 --> 03:30:56.460]  Okay, that's the one you mentioned earlier.
[03:30:56.460 --> 03:30:59.460]  That would be natural resources code.
[03:30:59.460 --> 03:31:07.460]  I would include this footing, this foundation in my attack to show them that
[03:31:07.460 --> 03:31:10.460]  it's way worse than whether or not the right person hears the indictment
[03:31:10.460 --> 03:31:12.460]  or signs the information.
[03:31:12.460 --> 03:31:15.460]  It's way worse than all of the official misconduct they might.
[03:31:15.460 --> 03:31:18.460]  This is proving that they earn their pension through racketeering,
[03:31:18.460 --> 03:31:21.460]  and then they do all this other little stuff.
[03:31:21.460 --> 03:31:25.460]  So you bring the biggest, baddest laundry with you every time,
[03:31:25.460 --> 03:31:28.460]  and you're somebody they don't want to talk to.
[03:31:28.460 --> 03:31:32.460]  And you get 50 other people to do it.
[03:31:32.460 --> 03:31:37.460]  In matters of getting their attention, I have a number of people.
[03:31:37.460 --> 03:31:42.460]  We have a guy in Comanche County that's in prison now.
[03:31:42.460 --> 03:31:48.460]  He went to prison in Missouri for the traffic issue,
[03:31:48.460 --> 03:31:52.460]  which he was right, but he wound up with felony charges
[03:31:52.460 --> 03:31:57.460]  and wound up with 10 years in prison over the issue.
[03:31:57.460 --> 03:32:02.460]  So I'm reluctant to encourage people to fight that issue
[03:32:02.460 --> 03:32:08.460]  without having a court that they can get an issue adjudicated in.
[03:32:08.460 --> 03:32:10.460]  Okay, hang on.
[03:32:10.460 --> 03:32:15.460]  The courts are named as a defendant in my complaint.
[03:32:15.460 --> 03:32:17.460]  The courts are half of the scheme,
[03:32:17.460 --> 03:32:22.460]  and I don't rely on a court for one single moment, never.
[03:32:22.460 --> 03:32:25.460]  I always presume they're the last place I want to be,
[03:32:25.460 --> 03:32:27.460]  and that's why you see me doing all this.
[03:32:27.460 --> 03:32:30.460]  I'll file criminal complaints, but I know I'll never get them in jail.
[03:32:30.460 --> 03:32:31.460]  I'll never get a grand jury.
[03:32:31.460 --> 03:32:35.460]  It's just for drama, laundry, and to make them leave me alone
[03:32:35.460 --> 03:32:38.460]  because I've shut their mouth using the law only.
[03:32:38.460 --> 03:32:41.460]  So it's not that I encourage people to do this,
[03:32:41.460 --> 03:32:44.460]  but what I would do is get 50 people.
[03:32:44.460 --> 03:32:49.460]  Course number five is about how to join this complaint.
[03:32:49.460 --> 03:32:51.460]  All Microsoft Word documents,
[03:32:51.460 --> 03:32:55.460]  you get a completed Texas joiner in Microsoft Word there to enhance
[03:32:55.460 --> 03:32:59.460]  with your own provisions that you dig up over and above the one I found.
[03:32:59.460 --> 03:33:04.460]  Now, when you go on record with I have this right, prove that I don't,
[03:33:04.460 --> 03:33:06.460]  you need to prove that I don't have this right.
[03:33:06.460 --> 03:33:08.460]  You're my servant.
[03:33:08.460 --> 03:33:09.460]  I have this right.
[03:33:09.460 --> 03:33:12.460]  I have this complaint that I've joined you to, and I want answers.
[03:33:12.460 --> 03:33:16.460]  Now, with the course, you could set up your own cottage industry.
[03:33:16.460 --> 03:33:18.460]  If I come to you, I'm Joe Lunchbucket.
[03:33:18.460 --> 03:33:20.460]  I've got this traffic ticket, and I don't want to write all my stuff.
[03:33:20.460 --> 03:33:24.460]  I'll give you $200 to make this package for me to go to court on.
[03:33:24.460 --> 03:33:26.460]  For public vehicle to travel, join me to this.
[03:33:26.460 --> 03:33:30.460]  Amend the Microsoft Word motion to dismiss.
[03:33:30.460 --> 03:33:32.460]  You could set up a little cottage industry,
[03:33:32.460 --> 03:33:36.460]  and you've got 50 people with joiners serving the county sheriff saying,
[03:33:36.460 --> 03:33:38.460]  I have this right, don't I?
[03:33:38.460 --> 03:33:40.460]  Put it on the record that I don't.
[03:33:40.460 --> 03:33:42.460]  Put it in writing right now,
[03:33:42.460 --> 03:33:46.460]  or understand my group is going to be out there exercising this right,
[03:33:46.460 --> 03:33:51.460]  and be prepared to get a website, pick up the sheriff's office,
[03:33:51.460 --> 03:33:56.460]  and I would heap all of it right on the main frontline mandatory enforcement
[03:33:56.460 --> 03:34:00.460]  personnel, mandatory compliance, and that's the cop on the street.
[03:34:00.460 --> 03:34:03.460]  And I tell them, I have this right, don't I?
[03:34:03.460 --> 03:34:07.460]  Now, if the sheriff knows of this, because you're going to notify him,
[03:34:07.460 --> 03:34:11.460]  the sheriff happens to be a policymaker for the purposes of whether or not
[03:34:11.460 --> 03:34:15.460]  a municipality is civilly prone to civil suit.
[03:34:15.460 --> 03:34:18.460]  The officer acting, he might have good faith immunity,
[03:34:18.460 --> 03:34:23.460]  and the municipality, it's not municipal policy, so you can't sue them.
[03:34:23.460 --> 03:34:27.460]  So you definitely want to have a policymaker aware of what you're doing,
[03:34:27.460 --> 03:34:31.460]  and if they don't answer you, and then they molest you when you're out on the
[03:34:31.460 --> 03:34:35.460]  street exercising this right as you told them that you would,
[03:34:35.460 --> 03:34:41.460]  you have a municipal policy of silence to try to get you in trouble.
[03:34:41.460 --> 03:34:43.460]  That's called entrapment.
[03:34:43.460 --> 03:34:48.460]  And that is a tort for which the municipality can be now sued.
[03:34:48.460 --> 03:34:51.460]  When you sue them at your first deposition,
[03:34:51.460 --> 03:34:53.460]  you're going to have the sheriff sitting there saying,
[03:34:53.460 --> 03:34:56.460]  tell me about public vehicular travel.
[03:34:56.460 --> 03:34:59.460]  They know that's where this leads.
[03:34:59.460 --> 03:35:02.460]  And so I would start by making sure that the sheriff knows all about this,
[03:35:02.460 --> 03:35:06.460]  that there's a big group growing, that they've put it on the record that they
[03:35:06.460 --> 03:35:10.460]  have this right and they demand that you contradict them with statute
[03:35:10.460 --> 03:35:13.460]  and you can't find it because it doesn't exist.
[03:35:13.460 --> 03:35:17.460]  We have this right, and they're looking right at my memorandum on it.
[03:35:17.460 --> 03:35:19.460]  Now, you've heaped it all on the cop on the street without a judge's
[03:35:19.460 --> 03:35:21.460]  involvement.
[03:35:21.460 --> 03:35:24.460]  You keep the judges out of it because they're part of the scheme.
[03:35:24.460 --> 03:35:27.460]  And I put pressure on the other parts of the system,
[03:35:27.460 --> 03:35:30.460]  like the mandatory compliance personnel,
[03:35:30.460 --> 03:35:33.460]  and I try to keep judges out of the loop.
[03:35:33.460 --> 03:35:37.460]  And I just struck a difference between you and I that I didn't know existed
[03:35:37.460 --> 03:35:40.460]  until now is that I know judges are part of it,
[03:35:40.460 --> 03:35:45.460]  so I try not to give them an opportunity at all to meddle.
[03:35:45.460 --> 03:35:48.460]  Yeah, and that's something I've attempted to do.
[03:35:48.460 --> 03:35:51.460]  I've delivered information like that to our county sheriff,
[03:35:51.460 --> 03:35:55.460]  and I honestly believe that's why I managed to go over a year without even
[03:35:55.460 --> 03:35:59.460]  being stopped because I actually had city police cars follow my car many,
[03:35:59.460 --> 03:36:03.460]  many blocks staring at the license plate and then turn around and go
[03:36:03.460 --> 03:36:05.460]  somewhere else.
[03:36:05.460 --> 03:36:07.460]  Yeah.
[03:36:07.460 --> 03:36:09.460]  Once you start going after them directly,
[03:36:09.460 --> 03:36:13.460]  and that's what I'm looking at doing is going after the individual policemen.
[03:36:13.460 --> 03:36:17.460]  You mentioned earlier that the policeman is acting in good faith.
[03:36:17.460 --> 03:36:23.460]  I'm not going after them, informing them and putting a burden on them,
[03:36:23.460 --> 03:36:24.460]  a choice.
[03:36:24.460 --> 03:36:28.460]  You either prove I don't have this right or you stay away from me.
[03:36:28.460 --> 03:36:29.460]  That's all.
[03:36:29.460 --> 03:36:30.460]  I'm not going after the officer.
[03:36:30.460 --> 03:36:33.460]  I am burdening the officer with their job.
[03:36:33.460 --> 03:36:35.460]  That's all I'm doing.
[03:36:35.460 --> 03:36:39.460]  I've actually gotten to cause themselves a problem,
[03:36:39.460 --> 03:36:43.460]  and each one of the citations they give me have either four or five different
[03:36:43.460 --> 03:36:44.460]  charges on them.
[03:36:44.460 --> 03:36:50.460]  Well, the affidavits they sign specify that I displayed expired registration
[03:36:50.460 --> 03:36:55.460]  and that I displayed an expired operator's or commercial driver's license,
[03:36:55.460 --> 03:36:57.460]  which I don't have either.
[03:36:57.460 --> 03:37:02.460]  So they've actually signed an affidavit under oath that I was displaying this
[03:37:02.460 --> 03:37:06.460]  when they were shaved off my car the first day I got it the year earlier.
[03:37:06.460 --> 03:37:09.460]  So did you file aggravated perjury?
[03:37:09.460 --> 03:37:10.460]  Yes.
[03:37:10.460 --> 03:37:12.460]  Aggravated perjury is in the works.
[03:37:12.460 --> 03:37:16.460]  Felony tampering with a government document.
[03:37:16.460 --> 03:37:18.460]  This is how you get their attention.
[03:37:18.460 --> 03:37:26.460]  And as to their immunity from suit, a case I just read recently from Texas,
[03:37:26.460 --> 03:37:33.460]  the officer was sued for raping someone he was transporting to jail.
[03:37:33.460 --> 03:37:35.460]  Yeah, I just read that an hour ago.
[03:37:35.460 --> 03:37:42.460]  And the court said that he was subject to civil suit because rape was not
[03:37:42.460 --> 03:37:44.460]  within the scope of his authority.
[03:37:44.460 --> 03:37:50.460]  Violating criminal law under the color of their official authority is not
[03:37:50.460 --> 03:37:54.460]  within their authority, and it makes no difference if it's city policy.
[03:37:54.460 --> 03:37:56.460]  That makes it even worse.
[03:37:56.460 --> 03:37:59.460]  You can't claim good faith reliance.
[03:37:59.460 --> 03:38:05.460]  Screws versus U.S., public official violates law, violates a ruling of this court,
[03:38:05.460 --> 03:38:11.460]  and he be saying he may not be heard to say he knows not what he does.
[03:38:11.460 --> 03:38:15.460]  I tell police officers regularly when I ask them to arrest a public official
[03:38:15.460 --> 03:38:19.460]  or a judge or a clerk, well, I can't arrest him.
[03:38:19.460 --> 03:38:20.460]  Sure you can.
[03:38:20.460 --> 03:38:21.460]  I say, oh, no.
[03:38:21.460 --> 03:38:23.460]  I say, well, you know, life's filled with little decisions.
[03:38:23.460 --> 03:38:25.460]  We all get to make some.
[03:38:25.460 --> 03:38:31.460]  You can follow policy and keep your job, or you can do your job,
[03:38:31.460 --> 03:38:33.460]  and I won't be putting you in front of a grand jury.
[03:38:33.460 --> 03:38:35.460]  It's your call.
[03:38:35.460 --> 03:38:43.460]  On page one of Juris Informatics, there's a David Lanier showcase at the bottom
[03:38:43.460 --> 03:38:48.460]  of the page, a Tennessee Chancery judge that was raping women in his chambers
[03:38:48.460 --> 03:38:51.460]  when he was consulting with them over their divorce cases,
[03:38:51.460 --> 03:38:56.460]  and the DOJ had to take them all the way to the Supreme Court to get a conviction.
[03:38:56.460 --> 03:39:00.460]  The victims had to sue them all the way to the appellate level to get judgment,
[03:39:00.460 --> 03:39:02.460]  and this is just a state judge.
[03:39:02.460 --> 03:39:07.460]  But in there, you'll see arguments that Section 241 and 242 were vague
[03:39:07.460 --> 03:39:10.460]  because they didn't give him reasonable notice in advance
[03:39:10.460 --> 03:39:14.460]  that raping these women violated their constitutional rights.
[03:39:14.460 --> 03:39:17.460]  It was part of his job to have immunity.
[03:39:17.460 --> 03:39:21.460]  That was exactly what Screws went to.
[03:39:21.460 --> 03:39:23.460]  Screws versus U.S.
[03:39:23.460 --> 03:39:28.460]  Two deputies and a sheriff in Mississippi, 1945, upset at this black guy.
[03:39:28.460 --> 03:39:31.460]  They're going to bar drink and they're going to go arrest him.
[03:39:31.460 --> 03:39:37.460]  But about judicial immunity, okay, the details are just the details.
[03:39:37.460 --> 03:39:39.460]  About judicial immunity, this judge argued it,
[03:39:39.460 --> 03:39:44.460]  and all the way to the Supreme Court, DOJ had to take him that far to get a conviction.
[03:39:44.460 --> 03:39:50.460]  It's an exercise in a judge trying to wage the argument of immunity,
[03:39:50.460 --> 03:39:54.460]  and all the way up, people are saying things about it, reflecting on a certain,
[03:39:54.460 --> 03:39:56.460]  and look how far the DOJ had to go.
[03:39:56.460 --> 03:39:58.460]  So you've got great discussion.
[03:39:58.460 --> 03:40:02.460]  Now, this led to Mexico and was arrested,
[03:40:02.460 --> 03:40:06.460]  and one of these documents is a habeas corpus that he filed.
[03:40:06.460 --> 03:40:08.460]  I don't think there's a more pathetic document in the world
[03:40:08.460 --> 03:40:13.460]  except Michael Vick's indictment.
[03:40:13.460 --> 03:40:16.460]  David Lindner is one I like to throw around,
[03:40:16.460 --> 03:40:19.460]  and the criminal code reaches the bench to your officer.
[03:40:19.460 --> 03:40:22.460]  You know, you can arrest the judge any time you want.
[03:40:22.460 --> 03:40:28.460]  I maintain that the biggest problem in the courts is not the prosecutors
[03:40:28.460 --> 03:40:30.460]  and it's not the judges.
[03:40:30.460 --> 03:40:33.460]  It's the bailiff.
[03:40:33.460 --> 03:40:36.460]  It's the same fascination of the bailiff with the other.
[03:40:36.460 --> 03:40:41.460]  Right, the bailiff thinks he works for the judge.
[03:40:41.460 --> 03:40:42.460]  He does not.
[03:40:42.460 --> 03:40:44.460]  He works for the county.
[03:40:44.460 --> 03:40:47.460]  Then it's his duty to keep peace in the courtroom.
[03:40:47.460 --> 03:40:51.460]  It makes no difference who breaches it, including the judge.
[03:40:51.460 --> 03:40:54.460]  And so I never even rely on them.
[03:40:54.460 --> 03:40:56.460]  I don't think in a million years that they're not doing their job
[03:40:56.460 --> 03:40:58.460]  because they'll never do it in a million years,
[03:40:58.460 --> 03:41:01.460]  and I go straight for the judge with caustic laundry like criminal complaints
[03:41:01.460 --> 03:41:06.460]  and affidavit of prejudice and get the next judge intimidated
[03:41:06.460 --> 03:41:10.460]  to where it's finally a court again so I can operate.
[03:41:10.460 --> 03:41:15.460]  It's a one-to-three tag team type of approach
[03:41:15.460 --> 03:41:19.460]  where you can kick everybody out of the way and go straight to the judge.
[03:41:19.460 --> 03:41:21.460]  That's my primary approach.
[03:41:21.460 --> 03:41:23.460]  I don't generally go after the bailiffs,
[03:41:23.460 --> 03:41:25.460]  but it's still my opinion the bailiff's a problem.
[03:41:25.460 --> 03:41:28.460]  The one I want always is the judge.
[03:41:28.460 --> 03:41:32.460]  When I go into a jurisdiction, the first guy I want to get to is the judge.
[03:41:32.460 --> 03:41:36.460]  Now, I'll use lower officials to get me up there,
[03:41:36.460 --> 03:41:38.460]  but essentially the one I'm after is the judge.
[03:41:38.460 --> 03:41:44.460]  I will be filing criminal charges against a judge in McLennan County Monday
[03:41:44.460 --> 03:41:49.460]  because he held a hearing to a foreclosure hearing
[03:41:49.460 --> 03:41:52.460]  and foreclosed on this woman's house.
[03:41:52.460 --> 03:41:54.460]  And when I looked at the court record,
[03:41:54.460 --> 03:41:59.460]  I found no verification on the filing and no certificate of service.
[03:41:59.460 --> 03:42:01.460]  The judge held a hearing ex parte.
[03:42:01.460 --> 03:42:03.460]  The woman never showed up.
[03:42:03.460 --> 03:42:05.460]  He did not look at the documentation
[03:42:05.460 --> 03:42:11.460]  and determined that it rose to a level to invoke the jurisdiction of the court,
[03:42:11.460 --> 03:42:17.460]  so I'm charging him with official oppression and let him explain it to a grand jury.
[03:42:17.460 --> 03:42:22.460]  Normally, people just file a challenge to the jurisdiction.
[03:42:22.460 --> 03:42:25.460]  Well, we're filing that too.
[03:42:25.460 --> 03:42:27.460]  But I'm also filing criminal charges with a grand jury
[03:42:27.460 --> 03:42:31.460]  because I maintain the judge had no subject matter jurisdiction,
[03:42:31.460 --> 03:42:34.460]  so he was impersonating a judicial officer.
[03:42:34.460 --> 03:42:37.460]  I let him go explain it to a grand jury of my peers,
[03:42:37.460 --> 03:42:39.460]  and the district attorney has agreed to stand aside
[03:42:39.460 --> 03:42:42.460]  and give it to the grand jury.
[03:42:42.460 --> 03:42:46.460]  And without subject matter jurisdiction, the judge is civilly prone.
[03:42:46.460 --> 03:42:47.460]  Exactly.
[03:42:47.460 --> 03:42:48.460]  We need to go to calls.
[03:42:48.460 --> 03:42:50.460]  We've got a couple more calls.
[03:42:50.460 --> 03:42:51.460]  Yeah, we have some calls.
[03:42:51.460 --> 03:42:54.460]  We've got Dan from Connecticut, Stephen from Minnesota,
[03:42:54.460 --> 03:42:55.460]  Marcus from Virginia.
[03:42:55.460 --> 03:42:57.460]  Marcus had called in last night as well.
[03:42:57.460 --> 03:42:58.460]  Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[03:42:58.460 --> 03:43:00.460]  Is that really Dan from Connecticut?
[03:43:00.460 --> 03:43:02.460]  I'm sure it is.
[03:43:02.460 --> 03:43:03.460]  Dan, thanks for calling in.
[03:43:03.460 --> 03:43:05.460]  What's on your mind tonight?
[03:43:05.460 --> 03:43:10.460]  Hey, it's Dan from the Evil Radio Network, and I always plug yours.
[03:43:10.460 --> 03:43:14.460]  We'll go ahead and plug yours, Dan.
[03:43:14.460 --> 03:43:16.460]  RTLradio.com.
[03:43:16.460 --> 03:43:19.460]  Listen, I called in because I have a very interesting situation
[03:43:19.460 --> 03:43:21.460]  that I'm observing lately.
[03:43:21.460 --> 03:43:25.460]  It turns out, I don't know if you have anything like this coming up
[03:43:25.460 --> 03:43:27.460]  in your legislature,
[03:43:27.460 --> 03:43:32.460]  but it looks like ammunition accountability acts, or so to speak,
[03:43:32.460 --> 03:43:34.460]  something along those lines.
[03:43:34.460 --> 03:43:39.460]  They come up in a lot of states, and they're almost identical lately.
[03:43:39.460 --> 03:43:42.460]  And I basically have it on good information
[03:43:42.460 --> 03:43:48.460]  that it either involves the company that's trying to promote it itself,
[03:43:48.460 --> 03:43:52.460]  or it has to do with something coming down from Washington,
[03:43:52.460 --> 03:43:54.460]  and they're trying to get something passed
[03:43:54.460 --> 03:43:56.460]  where they want to get all the ammunition coded.
[03:43:56.460 --> 03:44:01.460]  I would expect Homeland Security would absolutely want that.
[03:44:01.460 --> 03:44:02.460]  Exactly.
[03:44:02.460 --> 03:44:06.460]  So I am basically going to go do my duty
[03:44:06.460 --> 03:44:11.460]  and go to the legislature for the third year in a row and kill stuff like this.
[03:44:11.460 --> 03:44:17.460]  But this time around, I'm going to bring at least another 10 people on top of who come,
[03:44:17.460 --> 03:44:23.460]  and I'm going to try to find out who's been getting paid to do this.
[03:44:23.460 --> 03:44:31.460]  Which legislators are leading with lobbyists and getting all sorts of contributions?
[03:44:31.460 --> 03:44:35.460]  Pretty much, pretty much.
[03:44:35.460 --> 03:44:38.460]  David, this is Dan Real.
[03:44:38.460 --> 03:44:44.460]  That was our little jokes about the Real Deal.
[03:44:44.460 --> 03:44:52.460]  He ran for legislature this year and last year in Connecticut.
[03:44:52.460 --> 03:44:54.460]  Just so you know, here he is.
[03:44:54.460 --> 03:44:59.460]  I'm actually just to the piece now, I mean, in the interim before I run again.
[03:44:59.460 --> 03:45:02.460]  So at least I got something good done.
[03:45:02.460 --> 03:45:08.460]  Oh my goodness, he's a part of the enemy now.
[03:45:08.460 --> 03:45:10.460]  Oh, you may think it's a big deal,
[03:45:10.460 --> 03:45:15.460]  but in Connecticut it's a lot less of a deal, but you still get to take oaths.
[03:45:15.460 --> 03:45:16.460]  Oh, wonderful.
[03:45:16.460 --> 03:45:22.460]  Yes, so I don't know if you guys have anybody up in Connecticut that needs anything like that done.
[03:45:22.460 --> 03:45:27.460]  Can you take criminal complaints like most magistrates can?
[03:45:27.460 --> 03:45:32.460]  Unfortunately, no, but we do get to issue tax warrants up here.
[03:45:32.460 --> 03:45:34.460]  Well, at least you have a little fun.
[03:45:34.460 --> 03:45:38.460]  You can call that.
[03:45:38.460 --> 03:45:42.460]  I was looking at Texas, what, you know, your JPs get to do down there,
[03:45:42.460 --> 03:45:44.460]  and I'm like, man, I'm in the wrong state.
[03:45:44.460 --> 03:45:49.460]  Yeah, the JPs here get to screw everybody royal.
[03:45:49.460 --> 03:45:51.460]  But we do have a couple of good ones.
[03:45:51.460 --> 03:45:55.460]  We have one in Roanoke, Texas, who's an ex-ATF agent.
[03:45:55.460 --> 03:46:00.460]  He left the agency because he was disgusted with the criminal justice system.
[03:46:00.460 --> 03:46:03.460]  Kind of like Barry Cooper from that new show, Cop Busters?
[03:46:03.460 --> 03:46:05.460]  Yes.
[03:46:05.460 --> 03:46:08.460]  I have been trying to get an interview with that guy,
[03:46:08.460 --> 03:46:12.460]  and I saw the footage, and that was totally amazing.
[03:46:12.460 --> 03:46:14.460]  Yeah, he's great.
[03:46:14.460 --> 03:46:18.460]  I just hope he can dodge all the bullets.
[03:46:18.460 --> 03:46:20.460]  Yeah, literally or figuratively.
[03:46:20.460 --> 03:46:22.460]  David, are you familiar with this guy?
[03:46:22.460 --> 03:46:25.460]  I meant figuratively, literally.
[03:46:25.460 --> 03:46:33.460]  This guy, he is setting up stings for police officers.
[03:46:33.460 --> 03:46:37.460]  Dan, can you explain what he does?
[03:46:37.460 --> 03:46:40.460]  Barry Cooper used to be a DEA agent.
[03:46:40.460 --> 03:46:43.460]  He actually made a film called Never Get Busted,
[03:46:43.460 --> 03:46:45.460]  where he basically explains what they did
[03:46:45.460 --> 03:46:49.460]  and how they set people up to actually get arrested.
[03:46:49.460 --> 03:46:54.460]  And basically what he did is he set this house up he rented,
[03:46:54.460 --> 03:46:56.460]  and he grew two Christmas trees,
[03:46:56.460 --> 03:46:59.460]  and he had a glow light in there and nothing else.
[03:46:59.460 --> 03:47:01.460]  And when the cops came in,
[03:47:01.460 --> 03:47:03.460]  they basically were looking around for everybody.
[03:47:03.460 --> 03:47:05.460]  They were kicking all the doors down.
[03:47:05.460 --> 03:47:09.460]  The surveillance footage is immensely entertaining.
[03:47:09.460 --> 03:47:11.460]  And so they find this note on the wall,
[03:47:11.460 --> 03:47:14.460]  Free Yolanda, I forget her last name,
[03:47:14.460 --> 03:47:16.460]  but she was basically in jail
[03:47:16.460 --> 03:47:21.460]  because some drug enforcement agent planted methamphetamines on her.
[03:47:21.460 --> 03:47:26.460]  And so essentially he filed an information request on the warrant,
[03:47:26.460 --> 03:47:29.460]  and it turns out the warrant turned out to be an anonymous letter
[03:47:29.460 --> 03:47:36.460]  from a preacher of some kind.
[03:47:36.460 --> 03:47:38.460]  He's having a lot of fun with that from what I understand,
[03:47:38.460 --> 03:47:41.460]  and he was also a fellow Libertarian candidate for Congress,
[03:47:41.460 --> 03:47:43.460]  along with myself the same year.
[03:47:43.460 --> 03:47:45.460]  Oh, good.
[03:47:45.460 --> 03:47:49.460]  This is one of the things that we're going after.
[03:47:49.460 --> 03:47:52.460]  When I was in Pennsylvania,
[03:47:52.460 --> 03:47:58.460]  I wrote a letter to all of the federal magistrates in the state
[03:47:58.460 --> 03:48:01.460]  and told them that I was a radio broadcaster from Texas,
[03:48:01.460 --> 03:48:09.460]  and I had people calling in telling me about being raided by ATF, IRS, and FBI agents.
[03:48:09.460 --> 03:48:13.460]  And it was unusual because a lot of these people were being raided,
[03:48:13.460 --> 03:48:16.460]  and they were members of the legal reform community,
[03:48:16.460 --> 03:48:19.460]  and they had no actions against them.
[03:48:19.460 --> 03:48:21.460]  They were simply raided, all their stuff was taken,
[03:48:21.460 --> 03:48:24.460]  and no charges were ever filed.
[03:48:24.460 --> 03:48:29.460]  And what I believe is happening is that some rogue agents
[03:48:29.460 --> 03:48:32.460]  are going to the federal court record
[03:48:32.460 --> 03:48:37.460]  and looking in the record for missing cause numbers
[03:48:37.460 --> 03:48:40.460]  because, as the magistrate fully knows,
[03:48:40.460 --> 03:48:44.460]  when the magistrate issues a warrant, a cause number is issued for the warrant.
[03:48:44.460 --> 03:48:48.460]  But when the magistrate seals the warrant,
[03:48:48.460 --> 03:48:51.460]  the cause number is removed from the records.
[03:48:51.460 --> 03:48:53.460]  So these agents are looking for missing numbers.
[03:48:53.460 --> 03:48:58.460]  They're making up their own warrants with this number on it,
[03:48:58.460 --> 03:49:00.460]  take it to the local police and say,
[03:49:00.460 --> 03:49:05.460]  hey, guys, I have this warrant to search and seize, but it's sealed.
[03:49:05.460 --> 03:49:10.460]  So if the policeman would call the clerk, which they never would,
[03:49:10.460 --> 03:49:13.460]  they would find that the number doesn't exist in their records,
[03:49:13.460 --> 03:49:16.460]  and that tends to indicate that it's a sealed warrant.
[03:49:16.460 --> 03:49:22.460]  Then they go in and use the local police to help them steal everything these people got.
[03:49:22.460 --> 03:49:25.460]  They disappear, you never hear from them again.
[03:49:25.460 --> 03:49:30.460]  So I want you to provide for me all of the cause numbers
[03:49:30.460 --> 03:49:37.460]  for all of the warrants you have issued, sealed, that have subsequently been executed
[03:49:37.460 --> 03:49:41.460]  so that I can petition the district court for writ of mandamus
[03:49:41.460 --> 03:49:48.460]  to cause you to come before the court and show why those warrants are still sealed.
[03:49:48.460 --> 03:49:52.460]  As you might guess, I did not get one single answer.
[03:49:52.460 --> 03:50:00.460]  But I also stopped hearing about these raids that everybody was getting.
[03:50:00.460 --> 03:50:01.460]  Okay, we've got another caller.
[03:50:01.460 --> 03:50:02.460]  Yeah, yeah.
[03:50:02.460 --> 03:50:03.460]  Listen, we've got two more callers.
[03:50:03.460 --> 03:50:04.460]  We've got Stephen from Minnesota.
[03:50:04.460 --> 03:50:05.460]  Mark is from Virginia.
[03:50:05.460 --> 03:50:08.460]  So Dan, feel free to call back in Monday night, okay?
[03:50:08.460 --> 03:50:10.460]  We've only got about six minutes to go.
[03:50:10.460 --> 03:50:12.460]  Okay, talk to you guys later.
[03:50:12.460 --> 03:50:13.460]  Okay, thanks.
[03:50:13.460 --> 03:50:15.460]  We always make time for the evil rival networks.
[03:50:15.460 --> 03:50:18.460]  Okay, we've got Stephen from Minnesota.
[03:50:18.460 --> 03:50:19.460]  Stephen, thanks for calling.
[03:50:19.460 --> 03:50:20.460]  What's on your mind tonight?
[03:50:20.460 --> 03:50:23.460]  Try to keep it short so we can get to Marcus.
[03:50:23.460 --> 03:50:26.460]  Yes, is Dave still there?
[03:50:26.460 --> 03:50:27.460]  Yes, he is.
[03:50:27.460 --> 03:50:30.460]  I was wondering if he has that statute for Minnesota.
[03:50:30.460 --> 03:50:34.460]  Which statute?
[03:50:34.460 --> 03:50:38.460]  For no right to travel.
[03:50:38.460 --> 03:50:44.460]  You go to Google and you type in open as a matter of right to public vehicular travel.
[03:50:44.460 --> 03:50:50.460]  And you do a search and then you put Minnesota in before it and you do another search.
[03:50:50.460 --> 03:50:53.460]  Open to public right?
[03:50:53.460 --> 03:50:57.460]  Open as a matter of right to public vehicular travel.
[03:50:57.460 --> 03:51:02.460]  I've gotten as many as 4.1 million hits.
[03:51:02.460 --> 03:51:05.460]  And I wanted to say something about foreclosure.
[03:51:05.460 --> 03:51:09.460]  Open as a matter of right to public vehicular travel in Minnesota.
[03:51:09.460 --> 03:51:13.460]  About foreclosure on my list of courses on JurisInformatics.com.
[03:51:13.460 --> 03:51:15.460]  I just made this course in September.
[03:51:15.460 --> 03:51:20.460]  It's a course about a particular defect that exists in tens of thousands of foreclosures
[03:51:20.460 --> 03:51:27.460]  where the bank's contractor suited for foreclosure instead of one of the owners of equity in the note, like the bank.
[03:51:27.460 --> 03:51:31.460]  And bankruptcy court has proclaimed that that's illegal.
[03:51:31.460 --> 03:51:37.460]  And so you have all these existing foreclosures where people were kicked off of their property that can be vacated.
[03:51:37.460 --> 03:51:41.460]  This is a course about how to do it with Microsoft Word documents,
[03:51:41.460 --> 03:51:48.460]  a judicial notice on void judgments, a criminal complaint, federal civil RICO complaint.
[03:51:48.460 --> 03:51:50.460]  Just a wonderful course.
[03:51:50.460 --> 03:51:53.460]  And again, that's on JurisInformatics.com.
[03:51:53.460 --> 03:51:56.460]  And my courses are at student prices.
[03:51:56.460 --> 03:52:01.460]  Don't they have to have a pooling agreement?
[03:52:01.460 --> 03:52:05.460]  I just know that the person that's due for foreclosure has to have equity in the note.
[03:52:05.460 --> 03:52:08.460]  And when they don't, it can be vacated.
[03:52:08.460 --> 03:52:16.460]  And that's the only thing I know about anything concerning real estate is this defect exists in tens of thousands of foreclosures.
[03:52:16.460 --> 03:52:18.460]  This is how Robert Fox addresses it.
[03:52:18.460 --> 03:52:22.460]  Agency cannot be proven from the mouth of the agent.
[03:52:22.460 --> 03:52:25.460]  It must be proven from the mouth of the principal.
[03:52:25.460 --> 03:52:27.460]  And if the principal's not in the court...
[03:52:27.460 --> 03:52:32.460]  And I frame it exactly like the bankruptcy court judge has framed it.
[03:52:32.460 --> 03:52:38.460]  So they're the arbiter of force in this instance, so you can frame it any way you want.
[03:52:38.460 --> 03:52:43.460]  But I've got a federal bankruptcy court case that's illegal for this reason.
[03:52:43.460 --> 03:52:45.460]  Okay, we've got one more call.
[03:52:45.460 --> 03:52:48.460]  I just want to thank you then for that information then.
[03:52:48.460 --> 03:52:50.460]  Okay, thank you, Stephen. Thanks.
[03:52:50.460 --> 03:52:51.460]  Yep.
[03:52:51.460 --> 03:52:52.460]  Okay.
[03:52:52.460 --> 03:52:53.460]  All right.
[03:52:53.460 --> 03:52:54.460]  We're going to get to Marcus in Virginia.
[03:52:54.460 --> 03:52:56.460]  Hey, Marcus, thanks for calling in.
[03:52:56.460 --> 03:52:57.460]  What's on your mind tonight?
[03:52:57.460 --> 03:52:58.460]  We've got about three minutes left.
[03:52:58.460 --> 03:52:59.460]  Hi, Deborah.
[03:52:59.460 --> 03:53:00.460]  How are you doing?
[03:53:00.460 --> 03:53:05.460]  I found three statutes relative to my case here.
[03:53:05.460 --> 03:53:06.460]  I just want to go over them real quick.
[03:53:06.460 --> 03:53:11.460]  I think the first one will show that I'm not screwed.
[03:53:11.460 --> 03:53:14.460]  I'm like Randy Klain.
[03:53:14.460 --> 03:53:15.460]  Wait.
[03:53:15.460 --> 03:53:19.460]  Brief us on your case again.
[03:53:19.460 --> 03:53:20.460]  Let's see.
[03:53:20.460 --> 03:53:21.460]  It's a traffic ticket.
[03:53:21.460 --> 03:53:25.460]  I forced a pullover and they towed my car.
[03:53:25.460 --> 03:53:34.460]  I'm looking at two tickets, one for no license and the other for failure to yield for a stop sign.
[03:53:34.460 --> 03:53:35.460]  Okay.
[03:53:35.460 --> 03:53:36.460]  Went through the stop sign.
[03:53:36.460 --> 03:53:49.460]  Anyway, first one, 8.01-277, Virginia Code, defective process, motion to quash, untimely service, motion to disrupt.
[03:53:49.460 --> 03:53:50.460]  Can you speak up?
[03:53:50.460 --> 03:53:53.460]  Marcus, we can't hear you very well.
[03:53:53.460 --> 03:53:55.460]  Oh, sorry.
[03:53:55.460 --> 03:54:04.460]  The person upon whom the process to answer any action that deserves may take advantage of any defect in the issue of service
[03:54:04.460 --> 03:54:13.460]  or return thereof by a motion to quash while prior to or simultaneously with the filing of any pleading to the mayor.
[03:54:13.460 --> 03:54:14.460]  Okay.
[03:54:14.460 --> 03:54:18.460]  What was the defect in the service?
[03:54:18.460 --> 03:54:27.460]  Let's see, defective issue of service or return thereof by a motion to quash.
[03:54:27.460 --> 03:54:32.460]  Well, you suggested I do a motion to quash the summons.
[03:54:32.460 --> 03:54:35.460]  But you said that only had like 10 days.
[03:54:35.460 --> 03:54:36.460]  It depends on the state.
[03:54:36.460 --> 03:54:38.460]  Something about 10 days.
[03:54:38.460 --> 03:54:39.460]  Okay.
[03:54:39.460 --> 03:54:40.460]  Oh, no.
[03:54:40.460 --> 03:54:42.460]  Well, I mentioned that statute in Texas.
[03:54:42.460 --> 03:54:48.460]  The statute exists, but no one enforces it.
[03:54:48.460 --> 03:54:55.460]  It specifically states that you have at least 10 full days in which to file motions in your behalf.
[03:54:55.460 --> 03:54:58.460]  But the courts will, they're not in a hurry to get you to court.
[03:54:58.460 --> 03:55:01.460]  So they never enforce that.
[03:55:01.460 --> 03:55:13.460]  Otherwise, they'd have to get you to court quickly.